David Attenborough's Zoo Quest in Colour


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Tonight, we've got rather a different programme for you.

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In 1954, David Attenborough

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embarked on a ground-breaking television series.

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Watched by millions of viewers across Britain,

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it became the most popular wildlife programme of its time.

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And it launched David Attenborough as a wildlife presenter.

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If you don't want this, I'm warning you, I'm giving it to Robert.

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Zoo Quest filmed a number of animal collecting expeditions,

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organised by the London Zoo.

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And brought to the screen

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places and animals that had never been seen before.

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It was the first natural history series on film

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that the BBC had shot.

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Zoo Quest was first broadcast in the 1950s.

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Over a decade before colour television came to the UK.

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So the entire series was shown in black and white.

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A few months ago, a remarkable discovery was made

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in the vaults of the BBC Natural History Unit.

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An archivist was checking through

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some of the film cans from Zoo Quest.

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She took a closer look at these reels of film

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and realised that she had unearthed a piece of television history.

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They were some of the original films shot on location,

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over six hours' worth.

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Not only were they in extremely good condition,

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but they were actually in colour.

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They show animals filmed for the first time,

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as well as being a unique cultural record of a bygone era.

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I was astonished to hear that they had all this colour negative stock.

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I had never seen it. Nobody had ever seen it, I think.

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It had never been printed in colour.

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And it had an extraordinary quality.

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Quite unlike modern colour film

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and certainly unlike modern colour television.

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And now the best of this original colour footage

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can be seen for the first time.

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And with it the story of how

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this pioneering television series was made.

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I was astonished when someone said we've got nearly all the film

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of the first three expeditions you did in colour.

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I said, "It's impossible, we shot in black and white."

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I hadn't seen a foot of that film since it went out.

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And when it went out it was all in black and white.

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And it looked pretty miserable.

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Using the latest technology to remaster the original colour film,

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it can now be seen in high definition as never before.

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I was absolutely staggered at the quality.

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At its best, it's as good as any colour you see now.

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And the big close-ups of animals, the faces and the eyes.

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Quite staggering for the period that it was filmed in. I was astonished.

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And there is a good reason as to why colour film was used.

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It was all due to David's choice

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of using a lightweight hand-held 16mm camera.

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I was insistent that we would have to use 16mm film.

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Now, that was very much smaller than the 35 mil which the BBC use.

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We couldn't take the very big cameras into the bush in Africa.

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And the Head of Films at the BBC

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thought that 16mm was beneath contempt.

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There was a bit of a row, so we had a big meeting and eventually I got

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permission to use 16, which was the first time ever for BBC Television.

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But the film department had their own back.

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They said, "All right. Well, if you use 16,

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"you will have to shoot it on colour negative.

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"Because that will give you much better definition.

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"It won't be as fuzzy as black and white negative would do."

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I had to go and find somebody who would shoot this.

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And I heard that there was an amateur cameraman,

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a young chap who was very good on 16 mil cameras.

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So I discovered his name, which was Charles Lagus.

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I met this young man called Attenborough

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who nobody had ever heard of before.

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And we got chatting.

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I said, "Look, I'm going to West Africa.

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"Would you be at all interested in coming?"

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And he said, "Well, I might."

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We seemed to hit it off straight away.

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We laughed at the same jokes

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and so at the end of it I said, "Would you like to come on holiday?"

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I said, "Well, am I actually doing the job with you?"

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He said, "Well, yes, of course you are!"

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David and I were really nobodies.

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Somebody who was going off with 16 mil film? They were amateurs!

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We were rebels, really.

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And rather sneered at, I think,

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by the Film department, certainly.

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I'd got to know a lovely man called Jack Lester,

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who was in charge of the reptile house at London Zoo.

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Jack was going to be the star. I was the director.

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And so Jack, Charles and I were the team.

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What we were going to do was to film sequences in Africa

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of Jack Lester collecting things.

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He would pounce on a snake, let us say,

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and then we would dissolve from that film sequence to the snake

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in the studio, with Jack struggling with it and explaining it.

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And that was the idea.

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The zoo agreed and the BBC agreed,

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and Jack and I both agreed. Off we went.

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Charles and I set off with Jack and a chap called Alf Woods.

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One of the senior keepers from the birdhouse.

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And when we landed in Sierra Leone, it was the first time

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I'd ever been to the Tropics and I was absolutely knocked out.

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I remember very clearly walking across the grass strip

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and then I saw something moving. It was a chameleon.

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I though, "A chameleon in the hedge here!" And there was a mantis.

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I was suddenly struck by the huge proliferation of life

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which is characteristic of the Tropics.

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That muggy air, that tropical air, not only loaded with moisture

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but loaded with smells from the earth and from the forest.

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'We set off in our lorry along the dusty red earth roads which

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'cut through the thick tropical bush on our way into the interior.'

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'But distances in Sierra Leone are not only measured in miles,

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'they're also measured in rivers.

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'And the slow hand-pulled ferries that cross them.

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'But, to us, the time spent on ferries wasn't wasted.

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'We hoped to take back to London a representative collection

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'of the whole of the animal life of this part of Africa.

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'And the ferrymen, being the biggest gossips in the area,

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'were just the people to tell us

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'if anyone had caught any animals recently.

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'And to pass on the extraordinary news

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'to all travelling along the road that a party of Englishmen

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'were willing to buy animals of all sorts

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'and were offering rewards to anyone who could show them the nests

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'of some extraordinary bald-headed bird.'

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I wanted an objective for our trip.

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I said to Jack Lester, I said,

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"Couldn't we make it a quest for something?"

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He said, "I suppose we could."

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I said, "Well, isn't there something

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"that nobody has ever seen before alive?"

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Jack had a fascination for a bird

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called Picathartes gymnocephalus.

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And I said, "Jack, you see,

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"A Quest For Picathartes Gymnocephalus

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"is not a winning title."

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It was a very boring-looking bald crow.

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"Hasn't it got another name?"

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He said, "Oh, yeah." I said, "Great. What's the English name?"

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He said, "A bald-headed rock crow."

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I said, "Well, even Quest For A Bald-headed Rock Crow

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"is not a crowd-pleaser, particularly.

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"Not one to track them in." So then we just called it Zoo Quest.

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'We came to our first African village,

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'where life continues in the same way

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'as it's done for hundreds of years.'

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'An old man sits patiently weaving his cloth

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'in the ancient traditional way.'

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'Women sit in the shade of the huts,

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'carding and spinning the locally-grown cotton,

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'ready for the weaver.'

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'Cassava and rice has to be pounded to flour in wooden pestles.

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'But here, as everywhere else, there's time for beautification.'

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'Outside the village,

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'as outside every village large or small in West Africa,

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'there was one tree supporting a great chattering colony

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'of weaver birds.'

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BIRDS CHATTER

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Thanks to their convenient location, these weaver birds were in fact the

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first wild animals ever to be filmed for a David Attenborough series.

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'They're very destructive creatures,

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'causing a great deal of damage to crops of grain.

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'But although it would be easy enough to cut down the trees

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'and destroy the nests,

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'the villagers rarely take any action against the birds.

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'For they believe that if you drive away the weaver birds,

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'you will drive away prosperity from the village.

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'And so the birds are left to strip the leaves from their tree,

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'tear them into long ribbons and sew and weave them

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'into their beautiful, intricate nests.'

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'Our first duty on arriving in the village

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'was to pay our respects to the chief.

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'If he gave us his official approval,

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'we could be sure of the help of the best hunters in the district.

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'The chief came out of his compound to meet us,

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'followed in procession by some of his many wives.'

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'Everyone gathered round to see what he wanted.

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'And we were the objects of a great deal of curiosity,

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'not entirely unmixed with fear as far as the children were concerned.'

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'Jack explained that we had come to collect all sorts of animals,

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'and as we didn't know the African names,

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'we carried pictures of the creatures we particularly wanted.

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'This, the emerald starling, the chief recognised,

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'though he would insist on turning it upside down.

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'But picathartes, right way up or upside down,

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'didn't mean anything at all to him.

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'"But did we like snakes?" he said?'

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Jack was great with snakes.

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He would pick up the most poisonous snakes

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that local people were terrified of.

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'A Gaboon viper, just as deadly as the cobras.

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'It was crawling only a few yards away from our hut.

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'It looked sluggish, but it can strike like lightning.'

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And now its beautiful markings can be seen in their full glory.

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They provide perfect camouflage

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when amongst the leaf litter of the forest floor.

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'Our people had found it

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'and, like most of us, they were terrified of it.

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'But when Jack heard of it, he was delighted and came running,

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'anxious to catch such a handsome snake

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'for his reptile house in the zoo.'

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A Gaboon viper is a very formidable thing.

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Jack in fact catches it either at the back of the neck,

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or indeed, rather more dangerously, I think, picking it up by the tail

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and making sure he doesn't get anywhere near where it can bite you.

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And then dropping it in a box or a sack.

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Of course, 60 years ago,

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zoos regularly sent out expeditions to collect live animals.

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Nobody thought much about conservation or really considered

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that animals might be driven to extinction.

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Of course, these days, you would never dream of doing that.

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'People started bringing boxes and cages to us in great numbers.'

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'The contents of this box we wanted very much indeed.

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'For sticking her fingers through the slats

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'and scratching anyone who came near

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'was a very young baby chimpanzee.'

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'Within four days, we had so won her confidence that she would run

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'to take milk from Jack's lap.

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'And from then on, Jane, as we christened her, was

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'the tamest and most affectionate animal in the collection.'

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And it was so rewarding

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because it almost became one of the family with us.

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It would put its arms around us and just hug us.

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'She spent most of her time climbing about in the trees

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'nearest to whichever hut we happened to be staying in.'

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In those days, it was quite common

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for people to have baby chimpanzees as pets.

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Jane was quite young, actually, and I looked after her

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and I became very fond of her. She was a sweet creature.

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And Jane became a firm favourite with viewers at home.

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Again, something you would not possibly be allowed to do these days

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and again, quite right.

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'Jane the chimpanzee was always curious,

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'as to see what was going on.

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'And insisted on inspecting

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'each new addition to the collection as it arrived.

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'Like this little antelope.'

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'This young mongoose didn't appreciate her attentions at all

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'and give her a sharp nip.'

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As we built up a collection,

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somebody would have to look after all these newly-captured animals.

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'At our base, Alf Woods, who came out from the zoo's birdhouse,

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'was looking after our rapidly-growing collection.

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'This small section contains our sunbirds.

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'They live by sipping nectar from flowers.

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'But in captivity they will feed and flourish

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'on a mixture of honey and water,

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'which they sip from these little jars.'

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'When a new one is first brought in,

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'it has to be shown that the jars contain something worth eating.

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'So Alf always held it in his hand, dipped its beak into the honey

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'and he drinks.

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'His threadlike tongue flashing in and out at an enormous rate.'

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The way things got looked after, it was amazing.

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And I don't think we ever lost an animal.

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'In this tin, we had two little African bush rats,

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'which were even younger.

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'They were so small that they couldn't tackle solid foods,

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'so we fed them with milk from a pen filler.'

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David and Jack, and in the early days Alfie Woods,

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knew exactly how to look after everything that we caught

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and they were just amazing with them.

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'A great difficulty with all these youngsters is to keep them warm.

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'And at first we always put little bottles of hot water

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'inside their tins overnight.

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'This young ground squirrel,

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'though very weak when he first arrived,

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'did well under this treatment and ate vast quantities of palm nuts.'

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'Young birds always had to be fed by hand.'

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'This young owl demanded food every three hours.'

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But when the team went out to film animals in the wild,

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there was a problem.

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In West Africa in the forest, it's really very dark.

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And I remember Charles going in, the first time he went in,

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he said, "We can't film here at all."

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I said, "What do you mean, not at all?" There was a bit of a blow.

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He said, "There is not enough light.

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I said, "Even for black and white negative?"

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He said, "No, it's just too dark.

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"The only way we can film here to get a decent picture

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"is to cut down a tree."

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And so that was a bit of a facer, really.

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But when I did realise, I thought we'd have to think of something

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else, so what we decided to do was we would film birds that were

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out in the open, or we would go into clearings in the forest.

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Now, there aren't big animals sitting in the clearings,

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but there are small animals.

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'We were interested in little animals, as well as big ones.

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'And one of the commonest insects in Africa is the termite.

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'There's more than one sort of individual termite.

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'The most common are the small workers.

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'But among them are the soldiers, with enormously enlarged heads,

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'armed with great jaws

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'with which they can give the most painful bite.'

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'Naturally, when the nest is disturbed,

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'the soldiers are very much on the warpath.

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'And so cutting a section of their nest

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'can become quite a painful business.'

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Close-up photography of things like insects was almost unknown.

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Nobody had done this before.

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Charles was really very inventive.

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He took an ordinary hollow piece of metal and screwed it on the end

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of a lens and so increased the magnification, as it were.

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And he was very, very ingenious at doing that.

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When you get a close-up of a praying Mantis,

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they are fascinating in themselves.

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It's like magic.

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They were very impressive shots.

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We noticed that there was a wasp on the veranda.

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And before I could make it out, Charles was up there and filming it.

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There was a male wasp hanging on the side of the nest, waiting to

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grab the female before some other male grabbed her and fertilised her.

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'Once more, another male arrives.'

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'Things are now getting tense.

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'The young female continues her struggles

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'and hauls herself to the mouth of the cell.

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'And now she's free, he seizes her and flies off.'

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It wasn't what I thought we'd come to film, if you see what I mean.

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But we made a speciality.

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That's what we could do, and so we did it.

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But the team still hadn't found the subject of their quest.

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The elusive picathartes.

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'After an hour of cutting a path through the bush up the hill,

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'we at last began to get good views of the surrounding countryside.'

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'No-one in the first village we stayed in

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'had recognised our picture of picathartes.

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'And we decided to move on through the bush towards the interior.'

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'At last, we reached the next village.'

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Very often when we would come to a village,

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it was quite a ceremonial event for the people.

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HORN SOUNDS

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And they would welcome us, they would play music,

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and usually quite sophisticated, complicated music to our ears.

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I don't think they'd seen film cameras there before

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and they certainly had never heard themselves recorded.

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There was no way of linking sound recording to film in those days,

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on 16mm at any rate.

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And David used to do the sound. Not that he had been in any way trained.

0:22:540:23:01

It was quarter-inch tape, reel to reel, battery driven.

0:23:010:23:05

David took to it like duck to water.

0:23:050:23:07

I'd be very careful in the editing later.

0:23:090:23:12

It isn't all that noticeable that we haven't got sync sound.

0:23:120:23:16

A portable tape machine was quite a new thing.

0:23:190:23:22

No-one had seen it in the parts of Sierra Leone where we were.

0:23:220:23:25

So they had no idea what we were doing.

0:23:250:23:28

'First to perform for us were the newly initiated girls

0:23:290:23:32

'who had just passed through the rites of the Bundu secret society.'

0:23:320:23:36

'And here, joining the girls in the dance is the Bundu Devil,

0:23:520:23:56

'who presides over the initiation ceremonies in the sacred bush.'

0:23:560:24:00

'A change of music.

0:24:230:24:24

'These drums we knew were used in the dance of the njai society,

0:24:240:24:28

'which we had been told we were not allowed to see.'

0:24:280:24:31

'As they sounded, the devil itself came into the dance.

0:24:390:24:43

'A very fearsome magical devil

0:24:430:24:45

'that has the gift of foretelling the future.'

0:24:450:24:48

'But we were able to produce some magic of our own.

0:25:200:25:23

'For while the dance had been going on,

0:25:230:25:25

'I had been recording the music on my tape recorder.

0:25:250:25:29

'This, of course, was the object of a great deal of curiosity.

0:25:290:25:32

'I always play the recording back

0:25:320:25:34

'and let the singers listen to themselves on a little earphone.

0:25:340:25:37

'Blank astonishment was always followed by huge grins of delight.'

0:25:370:25:42

We tried to explain what we were doing,

0:25:420:25:43

but they couldn't understand it.

0:25:430:25:45

What we could do was to turn a switch and then use the microphone,

0:25:450:25:49

which was a big thing like that, and use it as a speaker.

0:25:490:25:53

And so we recorded something with the women

0:25:530:25:56

and then I played it to them through the ear.

0:25:560:25:59

And they started off by being sort of astounded

0:25:590:26:02

and then suddenly delighted.

0:26:020:26:04

They thought it was absolutely thrilling.

0:26:040:26:06

SINGING PLAYS

0:26:060:26:09

SPEECH INAUDIBLE

0:26:090:26:11

'Meanwhile, Jack was talking to other members of the village

0:26:230:26:26

'and showing our picture of picathartes to everybody he met.

0:26:260:26:32

'This man was the local agricultural instructor living in the village,

0:26:320:26:36

'and to our delight, he at last recognised the picture.

0:26:360:26:40

'The birds he said were not common,

0:26:400:26:42

'but he had seen them in the thicker parts of the bush,

0:26:420:26:45

'up in the hills at the back of the village.

0:26:450:26:48

'So it was that the next day, under his guidance,

0:26:480:26:51

'we started off on the journey up the hill,

0:26:510:26:54

'on our way at last to the nests of picathartes.'

0:26:540:26:58

The problem with the picathartes nesting site

0:27:000:27:03

was that it was in deep jungle and it was very, very dark.

0:27:030:27:06

And there was simply not enough light for the colour negative stock

0:27:060:27:10

that we were using, so we had to use black and white.

0:27:100:27:14

'We took our places behind the hide and now came the most tense moment

0:27:180:27:22

'of the expedition, the moment for which we had all waited so long.

0:27:220:27:26

'Would we see the adult birds?'

0:27:260:27:28

It was a six-part series.

0:27:280:27:29

We ended each programme by saying,

0:27:290:27:32

"But will we find Picathartes gymnocephalus?

0:27:320:27:36

"Tune in next week!"

0:27:360:27:39

And I was a bit worried about whether this would actually

0:27:390:27:43

make any impression on anybody.

0:27:430:27:45

And actually Charles Lagus and I

0:27:450:27:48

were in Charles' open two-seater sports car and we were

0:27:480:27:53

driving along Oxford Street, which you could do in those days.

0:27:530:27:56

And a driver leant out and he said, "Hello, Dave!

0:27:560:28:01

"Well, are we or are we not going to catch Pica bloody thartes?"

0:28:010:28:07

So I thought,

0:28:070:28:09

"Well, maybe the programmes are beginning to catch on."

0:28:090:28:12

'Suddenly, we saw one

0:28:120:28:14

'a few yards away in the twilight of the bush, preening itself.

0:28:140:28:17

'This was enormous excitement.

0:28:170:28:19

'Then up it fluttered onto the nest.

0:28:190:28:21

'And as it did so, the other parent flew across

0:28:210:28:24

'and drove the first one away. This was a great thrill for us.

0:28:240:28:27

'For as this happened, we became the first Europeans ever to see

0:28:270:28:32

'the white-necked picathartes on its nest.'

0:28:320:28:34

It did take several weeks before we actually found it.

0:28:350:28:39

In a childish way, to film something that nobody had ever

0:28:390:28:42

filmed alive before tickled our fancy.

0:28:420:28:46

We thought it was fun.

0:28:460:28:48

'And eventually we secured a young fledgling.

0:28:500:28:54

'Alf Woods offered it a little frog.

0:28:540:28:56

'To our delight and relief,

0:28:560:28:58

'it accepted it greedily and asked for more.'

0:28:580:29:00

Feeding it alone was a chore.

0:29:000:29:02

It ate something like 60 little froglets every three hours.

0:29:020:29:07

So not only were we filming,

0:29:070:29:09

but we were spending our time catching frogs.

0:29:090:29:13

'On that food, it grew and flourished

0:29:130:29:15

'and made the long voyage back to England.

0:29:150:29:17

'Now it's settled and thriving in the London Zoo.

0:29:170:29:20

'The first white-necked Picathartes

0:29:200:29:23

'ever to be brought out of Africa alive.'

0:29:230:29:26

The first Zoo Quest programme went out with Jack Lester

0:29:280:29:31

showing the animals, and I up in the gallery

0:29:310:29:34

directing the television cameras, which is what my job was.

0:29:340:29:39

But after that first appearance, Jack became very ill

0:29:390:29:44

with a tropical disease.

0:29:440:29:46

He was taken to hospital just after the first programme.

0:29:460:29:49

And so the Head of Television said,

0:29:490:29:52

"Attenborough, you thought you were director,

0:29:520:29:54

"but somebody's got to do the studio."

0:29:540:29:57

Nobody else was there, you do it.

0:29:570:29:59

And it turned out that he was absolutely brilliant at it.

0:29:590:30:03

In fact, he was much better at it than Jack. He was just a natural.

0:30:030:30:08

That is the picture of a very rare bird, the white-necked picathartes.

0:30:100:30:14

And he could, particularly in the earlier ones, he would laugh

0:30:150:30:19

at himself because he knew he was sort of acting for the camera.

0:30:190:30:24

One of those Indians taught me how to make the noise.

0:30:240:30:26

At least I think I can do it. He goes...

0:30:260:30:29

HE IMITATES BIRD Is that any good, do you think?

0:30:290:30:31

Ask him!

0:30:310:30:33

And that's how he became the narrator.

0:30:330:30:35

And became one of the great natural television broadcasters.

0:30:350:30:41

And here he is, the very same one.

0:30:410:30:44

The tree anteater or tamandua.

0:30:440:30:47

-That right, isn't it?

-Well, tamandu-a, we call it.

-Very well.

0:30:470:30:51

All television was live, and if you didn't get it right first time,

0:30:510:30:55

it was just tough.

0:30:550:30:58

Everybody saw you making a mistake.

0:30:580:31:01

And from the last... for the last time, from Dr Matthews, Jack Lester,

0:31:010:31:05

Charles Lagus and myself, goodnight.

0:31:050:31:08

Zoo Quest was a success.

0:31:080:31:10

And I thought, "Right, in that case, strike while the iron's hot,"

0:31:100:31:15

and I immediately suggested

0:31:150:31:17

that we should go to somewhere in South America.

0:31:170:31:20

And the obvious place to go was British Guiana, as it then was,

0:31:200:31:23

and is now Guyana.

0:31:230:31:25

And Jack had recovered and so we set off on our second trip.

0:31:250:31:31

This was in 1955, soon after the first series was broadcast.

0:31:310:31:36

There were still areas there where it was pristine, really.

0:31:370:31:41

Relatively speaking.

0:31:410:31:43

That is the South American jungle as I first saw it.

0:31:430:31:47

We were flying over British Guiana.

0:31:470:31:50

That forest below us stretched unbroken for several hundred miles

0:31:500:31:54

up north to the River Orinoco,

0:31:540:31:56

right down south to the Amazon and the Mato Grosso.

0:31:560:31:59

In fact, it's one of the largest unexplored,

0:31:590:32:02

and as far as I'm concerned, exciting areas in the world.

0:32:020:32:06

'There are three of us in that plane.

0:32:120:32:14

'Jack Lester from the London Zoo, Charles Lagus the cameraman

0:32:140:32:18

'and myself.'

0:32:180:32:19

'As we came in, we saw for the first time some of the Akawaio Indians

0:32:250:32:29

'with whom we would be living for the next months.

0:32:290:32:32

'Though these particular people were partly Europeanised, as they lived

0:32:320:32:35

'and worked on the government station.

0:32:350:32:39

'Our first job was to unload all our stores from the plane.

0:32:390:32:43

'Lenses, cameras, film, recording gear, cooking pots and pans,

0:32:430:32:48

'food, hammocks and all the other things

0:32:480:32:50

'we needed to make us entirely self-sufficient.

0:32:500:32:53

'For when the plane left,

0:32:530:32:55

'we should lose our last link with the outside world.

0:32:550:32:58

'If we had forgotten to bring something,

0:32:580:33:01

'well, from now on we should have to do without it.'

0:33:010:33:04

'Our plan was to travel up the Mazaruni River

0:33:060:33:09

'and explore its tributaries.

0:33:090:33:11

'And for transport the district officer very kindly lent us

0:33:110:33:15

'his largest dugout canoe. And we set off up the river.

0:33:150:33:19

'A tunnel of sunshine, cutting through the jungle.'

0:33:190:33:22

'For us, it was all very exciting

0:33:260:33:28

'because at last we were seeing the South American jungle close at hand.

0:33:280:33:33

'We couldn't expect to see any animals,

0:33:330:33:35

'for the noise of our engine would have driven them far away.

0:33:350:33:38

'But we were happy enough simply to sit there and enjoy the ride.'

0:33:380:33:42

'Late in the afternoon, we heard a distant thundering noise

0:33:460:33:50

'and we knew that we were approaching a waterfall.

0:33:500:33:54

'After another hour, we reached it.'

0:33:540:33:56

'To go further would mean unloading all the canoes

0:33:580:34:01

'and carrying everything above the fall.

0:34:010:34:04

'So we decided to camp that night on the banks.

0:34:040:34:06

'While the boys unloaded the canoe,

0:34:060:34:09

'Jack Lester and I enjoyed ourselves.'

0:34:090:34:11

Filming in Guyana had its problems.

0:34:160:34:19

For me, humidity and rain was the big challenge on the equipment.

0:34:190:34:25

How was I going to store all this stuff without getting wet,

0:34:250:34:29

without having mildew and fungus growing on everything?

0:34:290:34:33

It was a challenge.

0:34:330:34:34

So we had biscuit tins with silica gel, which absorbs moisture.

0:34:340:34:40

So every time we shot something, we put it in the biscuit tin

0:34:400:34:44

and then when the tin was full we sealed it with camera tape

0:34:440:34:48

and there it was with silica gel.

0:34:480:34:50

You've only got to get a scratch on a film, something wrong

0:34:500:34:53

with the exposures, a hair in the gate and you've wrecked everything.

0:34:530:34:59

We could be away for three or four months,

0:34:590:35:01

thinking that we'd got a film and the rushes come back ruined.

0:35:010:35:07

And this really was a nerve-racking thing to live with.

0:35:070:35:11

Despite the tricky conditions, the team soldiered on.

0:35:130:35:17

'The first village we entered seemed deserted.'

0:35:180:35:21

'Then we noticed two tame parrots on the eaves of one of the huts.

0:35:250:35:29

'Whatever else these people were, they were obviously pet-keepers

0:35:290:35:33

'and of course nothing could've been better from our point of view.'

0:35:330:35:37

'Soon, the women emerged from the huts

0:35:380:35:41

'and looked at us silently and impassively.

0:35:410:35:44

'But there were no men for, as we later discovered,

0:35:440:35:47

'they were all out in the forest on a hunting expedition.

0:35:470:35:50

'In their absence, the women were busy with the household chores.

0:35:500:35:54

'This young girl is weaving a bead apron, or mo'sa,

0:35:540:35:57

'which traditionally is the only clothing that the women wear.'

0:35:570:36:01

'Two other girls were busy cutting cassava.'

0:36:030:36:06

'Cassava is the plant from whose swollen starchy roots

0:36:080:36:11

'the Indians make their bread.

0:36:110:36:14

'As a food, though, it seems to me to have serious limitations.

0:36:140:36:18

'Because its juice contains a deadly poison.

0:36:180:36:21

'Prussic acid, in fact.

0:36:210:36:23

'So that before you eat it you must prepare it very carefully

0:36:230:36:26

'to get rid of the poison.'

0:36:260:36:28

'First, it is peeled.

0:36:320:36:34

'And then the peeled roots are grated on a board

0:36:340:36:37

'studded with small pieces of sharp stone.'

0:36:370:36:40

'But you've still not got rid of the poisonous juice,

0:36:550:36:58

'and to extract that, the Indians employ an extendable squeezer

0:36:580:37:02

'that is a most cunning piece of basket work.

0:37:020:37:05

'As you fill it,

0:37:070:37:09

'the weight of the grated cassava makes it becomes short and fat.'

0:37:090:37:12

'When it's quite full,

0:37:210:37:23

'it's carried and hung on the end of one of the rafters of a hut.'

0:37:230:37:27

'A pole is stuck through the loop at the bottom.'

0:37:360:37:39

'And then all you have to do is to sit on it.

0:37:480:37:50

'Your weight makes the squeezer stretch,

0:37:500:37:52

'so that instead of being short and fat, it becomes long and thin.

0:37:520:37:57

'And the juice, with its prussic acid, falls out at the bottom.

0:37:570:38:01

'Sometimes the Indians collect this juice

0:38:010:38:03

'and use it in making poison for their blowpipe darts.'

0:38:030:38:07

'When the cassava is squeezed

0:38:080:38:10

'and the Indians are satisfied that there's no more poisonous juice

0:38:100:38:14

'in it, it is emptied in dry pulpy lumps into a wicker basket.'

0:38:140:38:18

'Then it's broken up and sifted into a sort of coarse flour.'

0:38:230:38:27

'The actual cooking of the bread was, to me, fascinating

0:38:340:38:38

'because it's done in exactly the same way as griddle cakes

0:38:380:38:41

'and oatcakes are made in Scotland and Wales.

0:38:410:38:44

'It's cooked, in fact, on a circular bakestone heated over a fire.

0:38:440:38:50

'But as in Wales and Scotland, so in the upper Mazaruni River,

0:38:500:38:53

'housewives have a little bad luck in turning the cakes.'

0:38:530:38:56

'When the fat white circle of cassava bread

0:39:010:39:03

'is cooked on both sides, it's put out on racks to dry in the sun.'

0:39:030:39:07

'Having seen the whole of the cooking process,

0:39:090:39:12

'I thought I really ought to see what the bread tasted like.'

0:39:120:39:15

'Courtesy made me pretend that I enjoyed it, but I can't say I'd like

0:39:170:39:21

'to spend the rest of my life

0:39:210:39:23

'living on cassava bread, as the Indians do.'

0:39:230:39:26

As the Zoo Quest series continued,

0:39:290:39:31

it revealed as much about the local people as the animals.

0:39:310:39:34

'The children of the village

0:39:360:39:37

'had much better things to do than to cook.'

0:39:370:39:40

'Fishing is much more fun.'

0:39:410:39:43

'These two lads, Carlton and Codrice,

0:39:470:39:50

'became great friends of ours.'

0:39:500:39:52

Of course, they knew the jungle absolutely backwards.

0:39:570:40:01

They took us into the rainforest and made us feel ashamed

0:40:010:40:05

at how little we knew and how much they knew.

0:40:050:40:08

'There were two other pets in the village, and rather odd ones.

0:40:080:40:12

'Capybara.

0:40:120:40:14

'They are not related to pigs as you might think,

0:40:140:40:17

'but belong to the family that includes rats and mice.

0:40:170:40:20

'The rodent family.

0:40:200:40:22

'They are, in fact, the largest rodents in the world.

0:40:220:40:25

'And, when fully grown, they can be three feet long.'

0:40:250:40:28

'These two were comparatively young ones.

0:40:330:40:35

'They had been reared from tiny babies

0:40:350:40:37

'by the grandmother of our two friends, Carlton and Codrice.

0:40:370:40:42

'They had never quite forgotten their childish habit of suckling

0:40:420:40:45

'and were prepared to suck anything that was offered to them,

0:40:450:40:49

'including my finger.'

0:40:490:40:52

'Nevertheless, they were fully equipped with

0:40:570:41:00

'the long front incisor teeth of the rodent family.'

0:41:000:41:03

And they ate bushels and bushels of grass.'

0:41:050:41:08

They were very much village pets, actually.

0:41:090:41:12

And although people ate capybaras, in order that nobody else would kill

0:41:120:41:17

these village pets which had been reared since they were very young,

0:41:170:41:21

they put red patches of paint on them so that they were identifiable.

0:41:210:41:24

'The oddest thing about them

0:41:250:41:27

'is that they are really amphibious animals and in the wild

0:41:270:41:31

'they spend a great deal of their time swimming in the rivers.

0:41:310:41:35

'There are two clues to this habit of theirs.

0:41:350:41:38

'The first is that

0:41:380:41:39

'their eyes and nostrils are placed very high on the head,

0:41:390:41:42

'so that like the crocodile and the hippopotamus, they can lie submerged

0:41:420:41:45

'in the river with just their eyes and nostrils out of water.

0:41:450:41:49

'And the second is that their feet are webbed.

0:41:490:41:52

'We were very anxious to film them swimming.

0:41:520:41:54

'And for a long time,

0:41:540:41:56

'I tried to persuade them to go down into the river. But they wouldn't.'

0:41:560:42:00

And Jack's big thing was these are supposed to be aquatic animals.

0:42:010:42:06

"Why don't they ever go in the water?

0:42:060:42:08

"I want to see film of them in the water."

0:42:080:42:10

So I wanted to show this,

0:42:100:42:12

but the wretched things wouldn't go into the river.

0:42:120:42:15

'And then early one morning,

0:42:150:42:17

'Carlton and Codrice ran down to the river for a swim.'

0:42:170:42:20

They just jumped into the river.

0:42:220:42:24

Of course these capybara, which were semi-tame, followed them

0:42:240:42:27

and jumped in the river too.

0:42:270:42:29

And we got lovely film of the boys playing with the capybaras

0:42:290:42:33

in the river.

0:42:330:42:35

'And we discovered that not only were the two boys

0:42:350:42:38

and their grandmother's capybara habitual playmates,

0:42:380:42:41

'but that the pets would, in fact,

0:42:410:42:43

'never go into the water without the boys.'

0:42:430:42:46

'I certainly wouldn't like to have said which of them

0:42:570:43:00

'were the better swimmers.'

0:43:000:43:02

BOYS GIGGLE

0:43:020:43:05

And it wasn't only Carlton and Codrice

0:43:140:43:17

who enjoyed swimming in the river.

0:43:170:43:19

After their swim, there was another skill the boys wanted to show off.

0:43:380:43:41

'And our two friends, Carlton and Codrice, give us a short exhibition

0:43:430:43:47

'of blowpipe practice, using a small pineapple as a target.'

0:43:470:43:51

Both the little boys loaded these blowpipes...

0:44:090:44:15

and you look along the top.

0:44:150:44:18

And they went...

0:44:180:44:19

And sometimes they missed, but mostly they were pretty accurate.

0:44:190:44:24

INAUDIBLE

0:44:270:44:29

After spending several weeks in the Mazaruni basin,

0:44:310:44:34

the team continued their search throughout Guyana for animals

0:44:340:44:39

that had never been filmed before.

0:44:390:44:41

'Besides egrets, there were also other birds. Blue herons.'

0:45:210:45:24

'And here on the top of a tree a snail-eating hawk,

0:45:260:45:29

'living up to its name by actually eating a snail as we watched.'

0:45:290:45:34

One of the most interesting things as far as I was concerned

0:45:360:45:40

was a bird called a hoatzin,

0:45:400:45:42

which lived in the coastal swamps.

0:45:420:45:44

It had claws on the front of its wings.

0:45:460:45:50

And birds as a whole are thought to have been derived

0:45:500:45:54

from four-legged creatures, perhaps a branch of the dinosaur group.

0:45:540:45:58

So, in a way, that gave you an insight into what the early birds

0:46:000:46:05

with claws on their front legs, their wings,

0:46:050:46:09

were like as they climbed around in the trees.

0:46:090:46:12

It was the first film of hoatzin ever taken, as far as I know.

0:46:150:46:19

The next destination for David and the team was the savanna

0:46:240:46:27

of South Guyana, but the journey was not entirely plain sailing.

0:46:270:46:33

Some of the transport, when we were lucky,

0:46:330:46:36

was a little seaplane driven by a wonderful pilot.

0:46:360:46:42

He must have been ex-air force or something like that,

0:46:420:46:47

because he was just brilliant.

0:46:470:46:49

And we had to take off on a fairly short-ish stretch of river

0:46:490:46:55

which finished in very tall jungly trees.

0:46:550:47:00

In it we had Jack Lester, me, David

0:47:000:47:03

and a mass of equipment.

0:47:030:47:06

It looked awfully overloaded to me.

0:47:060:47:09

And Colonel Williams said, "Don't worry, lads."

0:47:090:47:12

He said, "I've done this before."

0:47:120:47:15

And the engines started.

0:47:150:47:18

He put absolutely full boost on.

0:47:180:47:21

And we roared down this stretch of river. And we got faster and faster.

0:47:210:47:26

And suddenly I could see the trees coming closer and closer

0:47:340:47:37

and closer and closer. He was going straight...

0:47:370:47:40

I was convinced we were going to go straight into them.

0:47:400:47:42

When suddenly when they were just very close,

0:47:420:47:44

he suddenly put his arm around the controls and leant back like this.

0:47:440:47:49

The plane went up into the sky.

0:47:490:47:51

While he was doing that, he started fumbling. I said, "Are you OK?"

0:47:510:47:55

He said, "Yeah, I need my bifocals."

0:47:550:47:58

He changed his glasses.

0:47:580:47:59

And we just made it.

0:47:590:48:01

After what was certainly an interesting flight,

0:48:200:48:23

they finally arrived at their destination.

0:48:230:48:26

The wide Savanna in the south-west. The Rupununi.

0:48:260:48:30

Here they met up with ranch owner Teddy Melville.

0:48:330:48:35

'He took us up to a remote part of his ranch,

0:48:380:48:40

'where he said he had heard reports of a large anaconda snake.'

0:48:400:48:44

'The savannas were littered with giant termite hills,

0:48:490:48:52

'standing like tombstones.'

0:48:520:48:54

'Teddy took us down to a thicket in a swamp

0:48:570:48:59

'where the snake was supposed to lurk.

0:48:590:49:02

'But instead of finding signs of an anaconda, Teddy's sharp eye

0:49:020:49:05

'immediately picked out the footprints of a giant anteater.'

0:49:050:49:09

The big thing was whether we could get a giant anteater.

0:49:090:49:12

So we had a go at it.

0:49:120:49:14

In a rather extraordinary way.

0:49:140:49:18

Amateur ham-fisted way.

0:49:180:49:20

'While we were looking at them,

0:49:200:49:22

'there was a rustle on the other side of the thicket. We looked up.'

0:49:220:49:25

'And there was the anteater itself galloping across the savannas.

0:49:270:49:30

'Without thinking how we were actually going to catch it,

0:49:300:49:33

'Jack and I set off wildly in pursuit.'

0:49:330:49:35

And I ran after it. What I was going to do, I can't imagine.

0:49:400:49:44

But I actually tried to slow it down by catching its tail.

0:49:440:49:48

But when it turned round and had a look at me,

0:49:480:49:50

I decided that was as far as I was going to take this.

0:49:500:49:53

Giant anteaters have these huge powerful forelegs

0:49:580:50:02

with enormous great claws on them, which they rip open termite hills.

0:50:020:50:07

And the one thing to avoid was the embrace of the giant anteater

0:50:070:50:11

because it was lethal.

0:50:110:50:12

The local rancher who was helping us lassoed it, poor old thing.

0:50:230:50:27

And we captured it. Jack had got it for the zoo.

0:50:330:50:38

And it did very well. Lived for quite a long time.

0:50:380:50:42

With all the animals collected,

0:50:470:50:49

the expedition in South America had come to an end.

0:50:490:50:52

But sadly, Jack Lester took a turn for the worse.

0:50:530:50:57

Jack suddenly collapsed again.

0:51:010:51:03

And he had to be flown home urgently.

0:51:030:51:07

And the expedition then came to an end.

0:51:070:51:11

It turned out that they didn't know what it was.

0:51:110:51:14

I'm very sorry to say that Jack has been very ill.

0:51:140:51:18

It started halfway to the expedition and he's still in hospital.

0:51:180:51:23

I think he's probably looking in

0:51:230:51:25

and we all wish him a very speedy recovery.

0:51:250:51:27

When we came back, he was in hospital.

0:51:270:51:30

So there was no question of him taking part.

0:51:300:51:34

And in fact, he never really recovered.

0:51:340:51:38

And he died a few months later.

0:51:380:51:40

The Guyana series was another big hit with the British public.

0:51:490:51:54

Keen to keep Zoo Quest as a regular event,

0:51:540:51:56

it was time for David to choose the next destination.

0:51:560:52:00

We'd done Africa, we'd done South America,

0:52:060:52:08

and the Far East would be the obvious place.

0:52:080:52:11

And I had read about giant lizards which the press had called

0:52:110:52:16

dragons, which lived on a very small island in the middle

0:52:160:52:19

of the Indonesian archipelago, in a place called Komodo.

0:52:190:52:23

Well, having found it on the map, we then had to try and get there.

0:52:240:52:27

But nobody in London could give us any idea as to how we could do so.

0:52:270:52:31

So Charles and I decided the thing to do would be to fly to Singapore

0:52:310:52:35

and then somehow, in some way or another, make our way

0:52:350:52:39

slowly southwards and eastwards through these islands to Komodo.

0:52:390:52:43

And the first place we decided to go to was the mouth

0:52:430:52:46

of the Mahakam River, which goes right into the heart of Borneo.

0:52:460:52:50

'Everyone had told us that the river

0:52:540:52:57

'was infested with man-eating crocodiles.

0:52:570:53:00

'But it wasn't until one morning

0:53:000:53:02

'three weeks after our arrival in Borneo

0:53:020:53:04

'when I was looking for frogs that were whistling and chirping

0:53:040:53:07

'in the swamps fringing the river bank, that I actually saw one.'

0:53:070:53:11

'And it was no ordinary one either,

0:53:170:53:19

'but the variety with the long thin nose. The gavial.'

0:53:190:53:22

The only problem with it was it was tiny. I mean, it was a baby.

0:53:270:53:30

So I had the idea that we would make a kind of joke of it.

0:53:300:53:34

And that we would film it all in close-up

0:53:340:53:37

and then I'd film myself taking off my shirt,

0:53:370:53:40

and we hoped the audience would say,

0:53:400:53:42

"He's not going to tackle that huge thing, is he?!"

0:53:420:53:45

And only when I jumped on it

0:53:510:53:53

would the people realise that it was just a tiny thing.

0:53:530:53:58

'As you can see, no-one could class this little baby as a man-eater,

0:54:020:54:06

'even though he had got quite a bite.'

0:54:060:54:09

We shot it that way and edited it that way.

0:54:090:54:11

But as far as I could see, nobody ever saw the joke.

0:54:110:54:15

Happily, we had met a very nice English-speaking Dutchman

0:54:270:54:30

called Daan Joubert who acted as an interpreter for us.

0:54:300:54:33

'The village itself, like all Dayak villages,

0:54:340:54:37

'consisted only of a single long house,

0:54:370:54:40

'which stretched for several hundred yards along the river bank.

0:54:400:54:44

'The people who watched us from the galleries of the house

0:54:440:54:48

'seemed to be very different

0:54:480:54:49

'from those we had met lower down the river.

0:54:490:54:51

'The head man was on his way into the forest to hunt.

0:54:510:54:54

'He showed us his stout blowpipe tipped with a spearhead,

0:54:540:54:58

'which he said was very useful for stabbing.'

0:54:580:55:01

'And his hat, which was very light and woven from palm leaves.

0:55:040:55:08

'We both bought and wore ones like it later on and found them

0:55:080:55:12

'to be ideal headwear for the Tropics. Cool and shady.'

0:55:120:55:16

'He never carried a gun, he told us,

0:55:180:55:20

'but relied on his parang - a crude and heavy Dayak bush knife.'

0:55:200:55:24

'He said that we would be very welcome to stay in the village

0:55:260:55:30

'for as long as we wished.'

0:55:300:55:32

The long house never went to sleep.

0:55:320:55:34

There was always somebody trundling about.

0:55:340:55:36

So all the time you were going up and down like this.

0:55:360:55:39

And down on the ground there were pigs and there were chickens

0:55:390:55:43

and they were moving around all night.

0:55:430:55:46

And on top of that there were some people chanting.

0:55:460:55:50

And I don't think I slept at all the first night.

0:55:500:55:53

In the morning, I said, "What was all the chanting about?"

0:55:530:55:56

And they said, "They were chanting

0:55:560:55:58

"because some important people have recently died.

0:55:580:56:02

"It's a funeral chant." I said, "Really? Where are the bodies?"

0:56:020:56:07

He said, "Didn't you notice them? They were just alongside you there."

0:56:070:56:13

"Oh!" I said, "I didn't realise."

0:56:130:56:16

But, no, it was a communal life all right.

0:56:160:56:19

And they were lovely people.

0:56:190:56:21

And one of them found a little baby bear. A cub.

0:56:210:56:25

'The little cub was obviously very young.

0:56:260:56:29

'I reckoned about two weeks old. He seemed to be in good condition,

0:56:290:56:33

'but he hadn't got any teeth and obviously was still feeding on milk.

0:56:330:56:38

'We had got a baby's bottle on board,

0:56:380:56:40

'ready for such a case as this, but I wondered whether he was

0:56:400:56:44

'yet old enough for us to be able to rear him.

0:56:440:56:47

'First, however, he had to be put in a box and covered up,

0:56:470:56:52

'so that he kept warm.'

0:56:520:56:54

'As soon as the sun went down, it gets quite cold on that river,

0:56:560:56:59

'and we didn't want to risk our new pet catching a chill.'

0:56:590:57:02

BEAR CALLS OUT

0:57:040:57:07

'And then I had to set about the urgent job of making

0:57:070:57:10

'a bottle of dilute condensed milk.

0:57:100:57:13

'Urgent because the little cub

0:57:130:57:15

'was already calling very loudly indeed for his food.'

0:57:150:57:17

'The milk seemed to be about the right temperature.'

0:57:220:57:25

'And, to my relief, the young cub was soon guzzling away contentedly.'

0:57:300:57:35

And here he is.

0:57:440:57:46

Twice as large, I should say, but still just as hungry.

0:57:460:57:49

And still making this extraordinary little noise which he used to

0:57:490:57:51

make out there in Borneo. Oh, Benjamin!

0:57:510:57:55

He's grown considerably since we had him.

0:57:550:57:58

The cameraman who took all those pictures is here.

0:57:580:58:01

And Charles has had him in his flat ever since we came back.

0:58:010:58:05

Has he caused any trouble, Charles?

0:58:050:58:09

Well, he's fairly destructive.

0:58:090:58:10

He likes to eat the lino, newspapers, telephone directories,

0:58:100:58:14

almost everything.

0:58:140:58:16

Benjamin became known as the Zoo Quest Bear

0:58:170:58:19

and I even wrote a little book about him. He was charming.

0:58:190:58:23

Very nice.

0:58:240:58:25

Well, you're very sweet. What about his teeth?

0:58:280:58:31

-Have you had a bite from him?

-Yes, he draws blood regularly now.

0:58:310:58:34

When he misses the bottle and gets your finger instead.

0:58:340:58:37

In that case, I think when you've finished, Benjamin,

0:58:370:58:41

we'll let him go back to your flat and draw a little more blood!

0:58:410:58:44

Benjamin had very bent little feet.

0:58:460:58:50

And I took it for a walk on a little collar

0:58:500:58:54

and a woman appeared from the distance shaking her umbrella at me

0:58:540:59:00

and said, "Can't you see your dog's got rickets?"

0:59:000:59:04

And then she looked at it and said, "Ooh, it's a bear."

0:59:040:59:08

And she ran off in the opposite direction!

0:59:080:59:10

After Borneo, David and Charles travelled eastwards across Java,

0:59:150:59:20

the next island on their quest.

0:59:200:59:22

'On our way through Java, we passed many beautiful buildings.'

0:59:320:59:36

'But we saw none more lovely

0:59:370:59:40

'than the beautiful Buddhist temple of Borobudur,

0:59:400:59:43

'which was built over 1,000 years ago.'

0:59:430:59:47

'It rises tier up on tier, shrine upon shrine,

0:59:510:59:57

'until at the top there is one final gigantic monument.'

0:59:571:00:01

JAVANESE TEMPLE MUSIC PLAYS

1:00:051:00:09

'But Java is a country not only of temples, but of volcanoes.

1:00:091:00:14

'And our route eastwards

1:00:141:00:15

'took us past the still-active crater of Bromo.

1:00:151:00:18

'The Jeep couldn't take us up the mountain,

1:00:221:00:24

'so in the early dawn one morning,

1:00:241:00:27

'we met some hillmen and hired some ponies.

1:00:271:00:30

'By midday, the volcano collects a blanket of cloud above it,

1:00:361:00:41

'but now, at five o'clock in the morning, it was still quite clear.

1:00:411:00:45

'To get to the crater, we had to descend on to a great plain,

1:00:501:00:55

'a sea of sand which surrounds the central cone.

1:00:551:00:58

'Now, the ground steepened and we had to leave the horses

1:01:101:01:14

'and continue on foot.'

1:01:141:01:15

'Looking down into the depths of the crater,

1:01:261:01:29

'it seemed easy enough to clamber right down to that central vent.

1:01:291:01:33

'But our guides would go no further, for they said that the crater was

1:01:331:01:36

'full of invisible pockets of poison gas

1:01:361:01:40

'and that people who had gone farther down had never returned.

1:01:401:01:43

'Even from where we were standing, the air was full of choking,

1:01:441:01:48

'sulphurous fumes and the ground beneath our feet shook

1:01:481:01:52

'as the clouds of poisonous smoke belched out from the vent.

1:01:521:01:56

'It's down there that sacrifices are thrown every year

1:01:561:02:00

'to placate the god of the volcano.

1:02:001:02:03

'These days, only chickens, cloth and money.

1:02:031:02:07

'But in olden times, the sacrifice was a human one.

1:02:071:02:11

'We left the volcano with the clouds gathering in a shroud above it

1:02:211:02:26

'and continued on our way.

1:02:261:02:27

'And the next day, we reached the southern coast of Java

1:02:301:02:33

'and the sea, the Indian Ocean.'

1:02:331:02:36

Very often, we slept on the beaches, which are wonderful places.

1:02:551:02:59

It was very lucky that Charles and I got on so well together.

1:03:021:03:06

I certainly look on back with my friendship with him

1:03:061:03:09

with great pleasure.

1:03:091:03:10

I don't know why we hit it off.

1:03:111:03:14

We hit it off from day one.

1:03:141:03:16

I don't think we ever had a cross word.

1:03:181:03:21

I don't think we ever worried about each other's problems.

1:03:211:03:26

I knew he could cope with what he was doing and he relied,

1:03:261:03:31

hopefully, on everything I was doing.

1:03:311:03:33

The next day, they set off inland.

1:03:351:03:39

CICADAS SING

1:03:391:03:42

In Jack Lester's absence,

1:03:431:03:45

David had to take on the role of catching animals, including snakes.

1:03:451:03:50

'It looked enormous, and from its size and markings,

1:03:521:03:56

'I was quite sure that it was a python

1:03:561:03:59

'and therefore, non-poisonous, which was something of a relief.'

1:03:591:04:03

So, I thought, "Oh, this is the moment!" Nothing frightened,

1:04:031:04:07

I skipped up the tree and took out my trusty cutlass and I thought,

1:04:071:04:12

"I won't grapple with the snake up in the tree,

1:04:121:04:15

"I'll cut the branch down."

1:04:151:04:17

The branch came down and I nipped down the tree

1:04:411:04:45

and then had to face the python.

1:04:451:04:48

So I tried to remember what I'd learnt in West Africa.

1:04:511:04:55

I picked up a sack and tried to throw it over the animal's head,

1:04:551:04:59

very inexpertly, I must say.

1:04:591:05:00

It went nowhere near the head! But I was quite nervous, after all.

1:05:001:05:04

But eventually, I managed to throw it over the animal's head

1:05:111:05:15

and grasp it by the neck.

1:05:151:05:17

'It's important to grab his tail as soon as you grab his head,

1:05:181:05:21

'otherwise he'll wrap his great coils around you

1:05:211:05:23

'and give you a very nasty squeeze.

1:05:231:05:26

'And here he is in the studio.

1:05:311:05:33

'The python is not a poisonous snake at all,

1:05:331:05:36

'it kills its prey by squeezing it.'

1:05:361:05:39

Of course, my expertise as an animal handler, a zoo man, as it were,

1:05:391:05:45

was exposed rather painfully every now and again on television.

1:05:451:05:49

Well, helping me... Helping me control...

1:05:491:05:53

..this python is Mr Langwarne

1:05:531:05:55

from the reptile house in the London Zoo.

1:05:551:05:58

I'm pretending to be very accomplished and expert about snakes

1:05:581:06:02

in front of Mr Langwarne,

1:06:021:06:04

who was the head keeper of the reptile house.

1:06:041:06:07

He's quite a handful now, isn't he?

1:06:071:06:09

You could quite imagine how these powerful coils

1:06:091:06:11

-could really give you quite a crush.

-Oh, yes.

1:06:111:06:14

He was very charitable towards my attempts at trying

1:06:141:06:17

to control this wretched snake.

1:06:171:06:19

-He's doing...

-Well, it's a very good example

1:06:191:06:22

of how he constricts his food.

1:06:221:06:23

Shall I just show you, or will you lose your hand?

1:06:231:06:26

No, I don't think so. You'll be able to get out eventually.

1:06:261:06:28

Well, I think we'll untie you later.

1:06:281:06:30

Thank you very much for coming.

1:06:301:06:32

JAVANESE TEMPLE MUSIC PLAYS

1:06:341:06:37

After leaving Java,

1:06:421:06:44

the team continued their journey east onto Bali.

1:06:441:06:47

A few minutes of travel was enough to show us

1:07:041:07:07

that in coming to the island of Bali,

1:07:071:07:09

we had come to a different world.

1:07:091:07:11

There were high mud walls round the houses,

1:07:111:07:14

which we'd never seen in Java.

1:07:141:07:16

The people looked quite different.

1:07:161:07:19

And as we travelled along the grassy tracks,

1:07:191:07:22

we passed through the terraced rice fields for which Bali is famous.

1:07:221:07:26

BOY PLAYS SULING

1:07:321:07:35

SULING MUSIC CONTINUES

1:07:491:07:51

It was an intoxicating place,

1:07:551:07:58

because it was, er...full of beauty.

1:07:581:08:03

But above all, we were impressed by the great number of temples.

1:08:131:08:17

There were temples everywhere,

1:08:171:08:20

and all were decorated with a wealth of intricate carvings.

1:08:201:08:24

This one lay in the centre of a small forest.

1:08:261:08:29

Many Balinese temples are sacred to a particular animal,

1:08:321:08:36

and the courtyard of this one was haunted by a troop of monkeys,

1:08:361:08:40

ever-hungry to snatch food from worshippers who came to the temple.

1:08:401:08:45

It was a real joy to meet these bold creatures,

1:08:471:08:50

even if they did do their best to steal things from my pocket.

1:08:501:08:53

MONKEYS CHIRP

1:08:531:08:56

When they are grooming one another,

1:09:051:09:07

they're not simply looking for fleas,

1:09:071:09:09

but are searching one another's skin for tasty little grains of salt.

1:09:091:09:13

We had a problem. When we changed film quickly on the camera,

1:09:241:09:28

normally you'd have a clapperboard.

1:09:281:09:31

We didn't have clapperboards, so we weren't running in sync.

1:09:311:09:34

So David invented a clever system - raffle tickets!

1:09:341:09:39

He would always have them in his pocket,

1:09:391:09:43

and when we changed a reel, he'd fish it out,

1:09:431:09:46

and he'd just hold it up in front of the camera

1:09:461:09:49

and stick it on the camera film,

1:09:491:09:52

and that was our way of pre-editing the film

1:09:521:09:55

and knowing what was on what.

1:09:551:09:58

The whole business of 60mm film at the time,

1:10:011:10:04

we didn't have any code of behaviour or any expertise, really.

1:10:041:10:08

We just did it the way we thought was sensible.

1:10:081:10:11

It was clockwork-driven

1:10:111:10:13

and you had 40 seconds of film before it ran out.

1:10:131:10:18

Then you had to stop and wind it up again. And it only took 100ft reels.

1:10:181:10:23

That's two minutes 40 in 60mm.

1:10:231:10:26

So, this is quite a handicap when you're filming.

1:10:261:10:30

Especially when filming complex sequences, like a village festival.

1:10:301:10:36

THEY PLAY RHYTHMICALLY

1:10:361:10:39

The music of Bali is particularly beautiful,

1:10:551:10:59

the gamelan music, and of the most brilliant kind.

1:10:591:11:03

The gamelan plays and rehearses every night,

1:11:091:11:14

every night in the village.

1:11:141:11:16

'These young girls are only eight years old

1:11:161:11:20

'and they've been training to perform this beautiful temple dance,

1:11:201:11:24

'the Legong, since they were six.

1:11:241:11:27

'They wear on their heads crowns of leather and gold leaf,

1:11:271:11:32

'decorated with the ivory coloured blossoms of the frangipani tree.'

1:11:321:11:36

While Charles filmed it, I recorded the music

1:12:121:12:15

and I think Bali's gamelan music was heard for the first time

1:12:151:12:19

by millions of people in Britain.

1:12:191:12:22

The Balinese are not only great sculptors

1:12:291:12:32

and instrumental musicians,

1:12:321:12:33

but they are also great actors

1:12:331:12:36

and they're continually re-enacting the stories from the Ramayana

1:12:361:12:43

and from the Balinese version of some of the Hindu legends.

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'Now begins the masked play. A demon descends the temple steps.'

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It's a deeply religious thing.

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The villagers watch this enactment of the story again and again

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and again.

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One of the great epics is there's a battle between the evil,

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which is represented by a horrifying witch, who has a long tongue

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and huge long fingernails and is a terrifying figure.

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'Rangda, the dreaded evil witch.'

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Who then attacks a very friendly mythical creature called Barong.

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'And now comes the superb Barong, the mythical monster which lives

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'in the temple and is the guardian

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'of the village and of its graveyard.'

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And the battle between Rangda and the Barong is one of the great

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dramas that is enacted by these rituals which go on every day.

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'And now begins the fight.

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'The men from the village, in a state of trance,

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'rush down from the temple, waving their swords to attack Rangda

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'and protect the Barong.

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'But Rangda, by her evil power, is able to hold them at bay.'

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And then suddenly, the Rangda makes a spell, whoof!

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'With a flourish of her magic cloth,

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'she forces them to turn their daggers upon themselves.

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'The men, almost insensible, try to thrust these sharp

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'swords into their chest.'

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They really looked that they were going to pierce their abdomens

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with them and they pushed and they pushed.

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But the Barong is sufficiently powerful,

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so it means that the daggers don't pierce their chest.

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'The Barong's power is stronger than Rangda's

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'and he is able to protect his followers, so that no blood is shed.

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'Now, the priest comes from the temple

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'and scatters holy water to bring the men out of their trances.

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'The men rush back into the temple. The Barong disappears.

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'And all that is left are the mangy curs,

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'eating the priest's offerings to the gods.

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'I can offer no explanation for that extraordinary performance,'

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but I was a little worried lest Rangda the witch should decide to

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turn their swords on the BBC.

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Well, two days after that dance, we had to leave Bali

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and continue on the last leg of our trip to Komodo,

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the island of the giant lizards, the dragons.

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Komodo was on the western end, the farther end,

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of this banana-shaped island.

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So we went down to the harbour.

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There was one single sail 30ft little fishing boat there.

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And that was all there was.

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So, eventually, we managed to talk to the skipper of this boat

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and he said no problem and we said, "Can you take us to Komodo?"

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He said, "Oh, yes."

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So we agreed and there was Charles and me

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and there was Sabran, our guide, who was the interpreter.

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And there was the captain and some boys, who were his crew.

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We had no choice by then,

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so we loaded all our stores onto this miserable little 30-footer.

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'We loaded all our equipment into the hold beneath the tiny cabin.

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'That was the tape recorder.

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'Our kit,

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'and the camera.

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'We didn't take much food

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'because we expected to be able to catch enough fish to last us

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'for the few days it was going to take us to get to Komodo.

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'Here comes Sabran.

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'The sail goes up.

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'We haul up the anchor.

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'And at last, we're off.

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'We headed away from the shore and soon,

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'the trade winds were filling our sails.

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'The boys took it in turn on the tiller.

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'This is Hasan, a cheerful lad who unfortunately was not a particularly

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'good steersman, as he had the habit of falling asleep at the tiller.'

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The boy would fall asleep, day or night,

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and we'd finish up with this awful crunching noise in the night,

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to find that we were on a coral island.

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So I said, "I think we're on a coral island." He said, "Argh!

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"They are no good!" "What are we going to do?"

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We eventually poled ourselves off.

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'Sabran, always eager to make himself useful,

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'had quickly improvised a kitchen in the stern.

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'He had found an empty petrol tin, which would serve as a grate,

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'and in it, he had lit a wood fire.'

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The trip took nearly three weeks. We lived entirely on boiled rice.

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The fish that we were going to have was non-existent.

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We said, "Where's your fishing tackle?" This was early on.

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"Why aren't you fishing?" He said, "I'm no fisherman."

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'To the south of us stretched the mountainous coast of Flores.

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'Somewhere, 200 miles ahead, lay Komodo.

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'The wind was strong and fair and we were making a good four knots

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'through the brilliant clear blue sea.'

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And I then said to the captain,

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"How long will it be before we get to Komodo?"

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And the captain said, "Tidak tahu," which means "I don't know".

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The only map we had was the airline map

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and Komodo was rather smaller than a full stop,

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a little dot on the western end.

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And he looked at this map and he said, "Where are we?"

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An awful thought struck me.

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I said, "You have been to Komodo before, haven't you?"

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He said, "Belum," and I didn't know what that meant,

1:20:321:20:36

so I had to go down to the hold and get out my little Indonesian

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dictionary and it said "belum - not yet".

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So he had no idea where we were going.

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We said to him, "Are you sure you know where you are?"

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And he said, "We are there," and he pointed to Borneo,

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which was probably about 1,000 miles away from us.

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'It was very hot in the blazing sun and Hasan draped his sarong over

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'his head to protect him from the heat.

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'And we had nothing to do but to lie on deck

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'and wonder what lay ahead of us in Komodo.

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'Our fresh water was stored in this earthenware jar,

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'lashed to the tiny cabin.

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'Unfortunately, it got very hot in the sun.'

1:21:221:21:25

It could have been soup because it had nothing

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but mosquito larvae wriggling in it.

1:21:281:21:31

'But nonetheless, it was quite refreshing.'

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This just went on and on and on and we were hungry,

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sleeping out on deck, mosquitoes.

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So it was in the evening and it was blowing quite a gale, actually,

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and so I said to the captain, "I think we go this way now."

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But the sea rose and it rose and it got darker and it got darker

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and it became quite dangerous.

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And suddenly, we were in whirlpools.

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And the waves were tremendous. What were we going to do?

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The water was going round, the ship was going round.

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You could see the sort of fangs of coral,

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rocks, in the middle of this whirlpool.

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So we were poling away and it's pouring with rain.

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Quite honestly, neither of us

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were sure that we would ever see each other again.

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Unfortunately, we weren't to show any of this on television

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because of course, we weren't filming.

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Charles wasn't filming, Charles was poling away like the rest of us.

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It was that dicey.

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And the captain was saying things like,

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"Setengah mati, setengah mati!"

1:22:411:22:44

He's saying, "I'm half dead! Setengah mati!"

1:22:441:22:48

And finally, about four o'clock in the morning, just before dawn,

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we managed to get out of the whirlpool area

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and into calmer waters in a little bay.

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'So, at last, we sailed safely into the wide, calm bay of Komodo.

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'The island looked most exciting, as we sailed close by its shores.

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'Brilliant white beaches of coral sand,

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'clumps of bush near the water's edge, and above them,

1:23:151:23:19

'gaunt, bare, volcanic hills, covered in sunburnt brown grass,

1:23:191:23:24

'with a few palm trees here and there.

1:23:241:23:27

'This was the home of the dragon, which we'd come so far to see.

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'We were so happy and relieved to have arrived after such a long

1:23:471:23:51

'and tricky voyage that to our eyes, the village seemed a real paradise.

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'The Petinggi, or headman, was sitting on the steps of his house.

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'He welcomed us very kindly and invited us inside.'

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And the chief, the Petinggi, gave us a little feast and during

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that, he said, "You know, that captain of yours is not a good man.

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"He's actually a gun runner.

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"He's been smuggling guns to rebels in Sulawesi

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"and the navy is after him."

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That's why he was the only person in the harbour.

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All the rest were out fishing.

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With a lucky escape behind them, the team continued on their quest.

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This time with the added ingredient of dragon bait.

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'We walked, carrying the two goats, with our cameras

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'and recording equipment, ready for this final stage in our expedition.'

1:24:451:24:49

The Komodo dragons had never been filmed, at least not professionally.

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And this was going to be a top draw if we got pictures of one.

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The only problem was that there was not a lot of light.

1:25:051:25:08

There was quite heavy bush there.

1:25:081:25:10

It was too dark, according to Charles, for us

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to use our colour stock, so we had to film it in black and white.

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'Now, we had to set about building a trap.

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'All the materials you need to make it can be

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'obtained in the forest itself.'

1:25:241:25:25

They attached the trap door to a simple trigger mechanism,

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using a rope.

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'He put a piece of goat's flesh inside

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'and then shrouded that end with palm leaves.'

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RUSTLING

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'We waited, but not for long. Within half an hour, there was

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'a rustle in the bush and there was the dragon.

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'This was tremendously exciting for us.

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'Our first sight of this magnificent monster,

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'the climax of four months of arduous travel.

1:26:041:26:06

'He was enormous.

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'As he circled us, flicking out his great yellow tongue,

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'he looked almost as though he had walked out of some prehistoric age.'

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This enormous monster, the size of a really big crocodile, appeared,

1:26:181:26:25

sniffed the air and eventually, it went in after this dead goat.

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'And down came the door.

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'Hastily, we piled boulders on the door,

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'so that he couldn't lift it up.

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'We had got him.'

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But we didn't have the permit to take it away, so we had to content

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ourselves with just measuring it and looking at it in close detail.

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So, we let this first famous dragon go and away it went into the bush.

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We'd had to use black and white negative stock

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for this climax of the whole trip.

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We thought we really ought to use the colour negative stock too,

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if we could dragons out in the open, as indeed we did,

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because on the island, there are a lot of them.

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It was, I think,

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the first colour film taken of a Komodo dragon in the wild.

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Like the series before it, Zoo Quest For A Dragon was another big hit.

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The Zoo Quest expeditions did a lot for me.

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I never had to look for work again.

1:27:431:27:46

And David became a very famous person

1:27:471:27:51

and it's Zoo Quest who made him that.

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And Charles and David have remained lifelong friends.

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They were good days and I wouldn't change them.

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I think when you're 28, you do things rather differently from

1:28:041:28:08

when you're 88, and you do silly things, which we undoubtedly did.

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Looking back,

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I don't think you would let two kids in their 20s just go off like that

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and nobody asked us anything about health and safety or anything else.

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I mean, we just disappeared and they said, "When will you be back?"

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"Ooh, just before Christmas, I think." "Righto, goodbye."

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Happy days.

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That was the end of our Zoo Quest. Goodnight.

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