Judi Dench: My Passion for Trees


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I'm Judi Dench..

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..and I've been an actor for 60 years.

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But I have another passion, which may come as quite a surprise.

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Ever since I've been a little girl, I've adored trees.

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SOARING ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS

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Oh, it's lovely!

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I've even turned my six-acre garden into a secret woodland...

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..and I think of my trees as part of my extended family.

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But I've always suspected that there is much more to these beautiful,

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magical giants.

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'Now, over the course of a year, I'm going to find out how much they

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'live, breathe, and even communicate.

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'I'll discover how they survive the harshest winter.'

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Isn't that just beautiful?

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'I'll hear what's going on beneath the bark when they burst back into

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-life in spring...'

-And now we're going to place it back on the tree.

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'How they fight back against invading hordes.'

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My tree, doing all that work.

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'I'll see into the heart of my beloved oak tree.'

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SHE GASPS It's riveting!

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'I'll discover how our woodlands shaped our history.'

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-Oh! You're joking!

-A cannonball?

-A cannonball?

-Yeah.

-SHE GASPS

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'I'll even find out if trees live in communities, just like us.'

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A forest like this is a very, very social place.

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'Do you know, there are more trees on the planet than there are stars in

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'our galaxy? There's so much for me to discover.'

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My life now is just trees.

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Trees and...and champagne.

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SHE CHUCKLES

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Come on.

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Whenever I can, whatever the season, this is where I escape to.

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SHE HUMS A MELODY

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These are the trees I've nurtured for over 30 years.

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I started planting trees here with my actor husband Michael Williams.

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Michael died in 2001, but even before that,

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every time a relative or a friend died, we would plant a tree.

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This is Jeff. This is one of my brothers.

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This is Stephen Hanley. He was a lovely, lovely

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actor and singer in A Little Night Music at the National,

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and he died, and we put this in, and it's just like him.

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He was very, very tall and kind of pale.

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And it's lovely.

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We've got Ian Richardson

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and we've got Natasha Richardson. No relation.

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Ian and I were at Stratford together, and Natasha,

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I was at Central with Vanessa.

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And this is Michael.

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But this was already here

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when Michael died, and that was 16 years ago.

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So this is not a 16-year-old tree,

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but it was a young tree at the time.

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It is about remembering and it's something, for me,

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it's something that's living, that goes on.

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So that...it's not, you know, you don't remember them and stop.

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You remember them and, and the

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memory goes on and gets more wonderful.

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SHE HUMS A MELODY

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Now it's time for me to learn more about my beloved trees at the bottom

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of my garden in the heart of Surrey,

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and there's no better time to start than in the winter.

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CROW CAWS

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I think my trees are at their most magical at this time of the year.

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Sleeping giants, waiting for spring to arrive.

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Their icy beauty takes my breath away.

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"How like a winter hath my absence been from thee,

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"the pleasure of the fleeting year!

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"What freezings have I felt...

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"What dark days seen!

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"What old December's bareness everywhere!"

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When it's freezing outside,

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there's nothing I like more than sitting in the

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warmth with David.

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David has devoted his life to nature and conservation,

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and he shares my passion for trees.

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So I'm going to find some quotes for you now.

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-Right, and I'll try and spot what plays they're from.

-OK.

-SHE CHUCKLES

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"Be you in the park about midnight?"

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-This is the Merry Wives.

-Well done.

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LAUGHTER

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We've been together now for seven years,

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and she's just great fun to be with.

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We've both got good senses of humour,

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and the silliest of things gives us fits of giggles.

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Yes. Oh, yes.

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-"Creep into acorn cups and hide them there."

-Well done.

-Is that it?

-Yeah.

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LAUGHTER

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It seems that Shakespeare knew a thing or two about trees,

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and now it's my turn to learn more,

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and I'm going to need some help.

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Tony Kirkham is the head of the tree collection at Kew Gardens,

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one of the largest in the world.

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He's going to help me uncover the secret lives of my trees.

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-So you want to learn more about trees, Judi?

-Always, I do.

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I'd love to know more about them.

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You know, you...I don't know that much about them.

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I just know I love them so much,

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and I know you know everything that I don't know.

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Well, I'd love to do that with you, Judi, and you

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live in an amazing part of the world,

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because Surrey is the most wooded county in England.

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And so wooded, in fact,

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that there are more deer in Surrey today than there were in Queen

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-Elizabeth I's reign.

-Good gracious!

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And here we are in winter. I love this time of the year,

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and it's a time when all the trees are shutting down.

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They need to prepare themselves for winter.

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-This is their rest period.

-Get rid of the leaves and have a rest.

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Get rid of the leaves, they know that it's going to get frosty,

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so they have bark that acts like an insulation jacket, like a coat.

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But some trees, like the conifers,

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keep most of their leaves in winter.

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There is a tree that's one of my favourite trees.

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The yew tree. It's one of only three British native conifers in the

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British Isles, and I love it because it's still very active in winter,

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and it has this amazing sap

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that will tolerate temperatures down to -35 degrees.

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Because it has almost a built-in antifreeze in the leaves that

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stop the leaves from freezing and allow it to keep growing.

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What a pity I haven't got one here.

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Well, I know a really, really good

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yew tree, not far from here,

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that's very old, full of character. It's a beautiful tree.

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Oh, I'd love to see it.

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Apparently, the yew is 140 million years old.

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So it's Europe's most ancient tree.

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Walking through a yew forest always feels mysterious.

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And Tony tells me there's a good reason.

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Their leaves are poisonous to humans,

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and some people say they've experienced hallucinations

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amongst these magical trees.

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To show me one of these wonderful yews,

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Tony's brought me to a local churchyard.

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So...it's a lovely church, isn't it?

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Yews are often found beside old churches.

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So, Judi, I've brought you here to see this, this tree,

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-which is a favourite of mine in Surrey.

-Oh, my word!

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-How ever old is it?!

-It's probably 1,500 years old.

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It's so ancient, it only grows at a 100th of an inch a year,

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but it has a girth of more than 30 feet.

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So it's seen quite a lot of activities.

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-With a little door to the side.

-Incredible!

-You've got to touch it.

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Oh!

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-Look at this little gate!

-And it's hollow inside.

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-If you go around the side, you can see in, and...

-How beautiful!

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-Shall we go round this side?

-Yeah, yeah.

-Oh, how fantastic!

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And it still shows the form of yew, of the old yew, you know.

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Look at the old bark there. This is all living.

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SHE GASPS

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Around 1820, I think it was hollowed out by the landlord of the

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local pub, so he could get some chairs in here, and a table.

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When they hollowed it out, this is what they found in it.

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-Oh! You're joking. A cannonball?

-It's a cannonball.

-Oh, my goodness!

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Probably from the Civil War.

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-It must be.

-Lodged, lodged in, you know, in one of these holes.

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-Isn't that amazing?

-Good gracious! That's so heavy.

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SHE GASPS

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Most people assume that the yew was planted by the church.

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-Yes, I did.

-Well, actually, the church was built by the yew.

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-Oh, right.

-So the old yew's like this, so this predates the church,

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and this was a revered tree by the Druids and the pagans.

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So they would come and worship this tree, because it was a sign of

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-longevity, prosperity.

-Well, you can see, can't you?

-Yeah.

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Already, I've learned so much.

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Trees live on a completely different timescale to us.

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I'm told the oldest tree in the world is over 5,000 years old.

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Now, having met Tony,

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there's somebody who knows about trees, absolutely.

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So all those things that you kind of suppose you know, and you think,

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you know, I'm going to get them all answered, properly, now,

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and told about it. And I shall give up acting and lecture on trees,

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I expect. Quite soon...probably. SHE CHUCKLES

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I love that moment when you realise that winter is coming to an end and

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spring is bursting through.

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LIVELY ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS

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Dormice sense the leaves around them are warming up,

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and open their eyes for the first time in months.

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Along with bats and hedgehogs,

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these little creatures are the only British animals that hibernate.

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And, for me, a sure sign of spring

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is when I see thousands of wood ants

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building their huge nests.

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But I want to know what's happening

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to my trees in the spring.

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How are they preparing for the longer, warmer days?

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I'm meeting Alex Metcalf, in Nower Wood in Surrey.

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He wants to show me what's going on under a tree's skin in spring.

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When you're thinking about spring,

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this is the kind of day you imagine.

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Look at that. Isn't that wonderful?

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Alex has brought an ingenious invention of his.

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So we're going to have a look at this sweet chest up here.

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-Let's step very carefully round the bluebells.

-Yep.

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Oh! Oh.

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-Oh.

-Fantastic, beautiful old tree.

-Beautiful.

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So what I wanted to show you is this device here,

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that allows us to explore a bit more

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-about what's going on just behind the bark here.

-What is that?

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-So, this is...

-A microphone, called a tree microphone? SHE CHUCKLES

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This is a tree-listening device,

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and it allows us to hear what's going on just behind the bark.

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-OK.

-So, can you hear anything?

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FAINT RUMBLING

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-Can you hear anything?

-I can hear very faintly.

-So, there's a...

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-There's a deep rumble there.

-Like a... Yes, I can hear...

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Yeah. So that's the, that's the inner workings of the tree,

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-so that's the tree vibrating.

-Oh, I say!

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But Alex has another magic trick in his box,

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-to help me hear even more.

-All right.

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-So now I'm going to plug it into here.

-Mm-hmm.

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So I can give you those headphones.

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And now we're going to place it back on the tree...

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RUMBLING

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So now we can hear more clearly,

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there's just the rumbling sound.

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Oh, yes, very, very clearly!

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Can you hear anything else in the background to the rumble?

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Every now and again, a little blip.

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-Like a little popping sound?

-Yes.

-Yes.

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-So that little popping sound is...

-SHE GASPS

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..that little popping sound is the sound of the water travelling up

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from the roots, all the way through

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the thousands of tiny little tubes, called xylem tubes,

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just behind the bark, as the water goes up to the leaves.

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The tree, like this, will drink

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around 200 litres of water a day.

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So that's equivalent of, say, two full baths full of water.

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So there's a huge amount of water travelling up inside this tree.

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Well!

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Oh, it's riveting! It's wonderful!

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So, trees get thirsty, just like us.

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And when we know how to listen to trees,

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we can hear them quenching their thirst.

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RUMBLING

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"From you I have been absent in the spring,

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"when proud-pied April, dressed in all his trim,

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"hath put a spirit of youth in everything."

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Now I've heard the rush of water surging up under the bark,

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I know they're fully awake and ready for action.

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But I've also noticed that spring is when they start attracting the wrong

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sort of attention.

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I'm taking Tony to look at one of my favourite trees -

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a young oak that Michael and I, and our daughter Finty,

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planted for my grandson, Sammy.

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But, unfortunately, it's looking a bit frayed at the edges.

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-Is it all right?

-There's some feeding damage here.

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-Somebody munching away.

-This is just a caterpillar munching away on them,

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-by the looks of things.

-Just the end of it?

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Yeah, and can you see how they've gone between...

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They've left the midrib, which is like, if you imagine a cabbage,

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and you eat, you prefer the bit in between the...

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-So you eat round it?

-..the thick bits, they...

-Choosy.

-They're choosy, very choosy, yeah.

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-They go for the softer pieces...

-Yes, look at that.

-..which are probably more tasty.

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I wonder if my tree can feel anything when there's a

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caterpillar invasion, and also,

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can it do anything about it?

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There's so much more going on in trees than I'd ever imagined,

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so I suspect my tree might be able

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to sense when it's under attack.

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Tony thinks Oxford University scientist Kristiina Visakorpi

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can help to solve the mystery.

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-So this is your office?

-Yeah.

-What an incredible structure.

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-Yeah.

-In the middle of the woods, in the middle of nowhere.

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Right, then.

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Right, Kristiina. Is it one on the, the one on the ladder at a time?

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Yeah, one at a time, so if you go first, then I'll...

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You'd never believe this beautiful treetop office

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-is just outside Oxford, in Wytham Woods.

-Wow!

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This is absolutely amazing!

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It's like an elfin forest, but we're in the top of the canopy.

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It's...Tolkein-like.

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This 40-foot-high walkway is where Kristiina is exploring

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whether a tree can sense when it's under attack.

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So we're looking for a leaf with damage on, Kristiina.

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-Oh, there you go. There, there, look.

-Oh, yeah!

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Kristiina's machine works by measuring photosynthesis -

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the amount of carbon dioxide that the leaf is breathing in.

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And if the damaged leaf slows down its breathing,

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Kristiina's machine will pick it up.

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We can have a look of the, of the actual rate from this monitor here.

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Not sure if you can see,

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but right here it's recording how much the leaf is taking.

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-And how much is that?

-How much... That's quite a low number.

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Leaves that are eaten by these caterpillars,

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they drop their photosynthetic rate, and what I find really

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interesting is that this effect also spreads to the surrounding leaves,

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so even if the caterpillar is just eating one leaf,

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I can see the same effect in those leaves surrounding that one leaf.

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So the tree is talking to itself...

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-Yes.

-..and sending signals from the damaged leaf to the other leaves,

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to beware, insects about.

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So, Sammy's oak does sense an insect attack,

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and Tony says some trees can take

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defending themselves a step further.

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They fight back.

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So there is some tree species, like the common beech,

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and she can sense when roe deer are grazing on her,

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from the saliva from the roe deer...

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-Really?

-..and very quickly can increase the tannin levels in the

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leaves, so the leaf tastes very bitter and sour to the taste,

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which means the roe deer stops grazing on them.

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What's more, Tony tells me that when some trees are overwhelmed by an

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attack, they can call in outside help.

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This is a pine forest, and pines

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often come under attack from aphids...

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-Oh!

-Hmm.

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..that can multiply at an incredible rate.

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So a single aphid, in a year, could

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give rise to around 600 billion aphids.

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-600 billion?

-600 billion.

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-You know they're up to no good, don't you?

-You do.

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Tony has had a graphic made,

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to show how trees fight back against the aphids.

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The trees are under attack from aphids, so what the tree can do...

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It needs help, it needs to bring in the cavalry,

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and this is an invisible cloud that the trees are sending out.

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Apparently, the cloud is a strong perfume.

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The tree releases it when it's under attack,

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and it attracts a mini superhero.

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And the ladybird can smell this cloud.

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It can sense this cloud and it knows that there is food there.

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You know, they are launching off.

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Flying away to the pine, to feed on the aphids.

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So, ladybirds are as sensitive to that cloud emitted by the pine

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as that to a shark to the smell of blood in the sea.

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-It's wonderful that nature's got an answer to all the problems, isn't it?

-It's quite reassuring.

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It's very reassuring, yes.

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It's only when we come along, as man, and mess it all up.

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-Mess the system up, yes.

-Yeah.

-True.

-So we've got to protect...

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-Indeed, definitely.

-..our fauna.

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So, not all insects are harmful to trees.

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For some trees, it's quite the opposite.

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This is the orchard close to my house.

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It's just gorgeous at this time of year,

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when the blossom is out and it's buzzing with insects.

0:23:280:23:31

-Well, they all look very healthy, don't they?

-They certainly do.

-They're wonderful.

0:23:330:23:37

-That's wonderful. That's beautiful.

-It's beautiful, isn't it?

0:23:370:23:40

-Actually, if you smell it...

-I thought I could smell something, I thought I could.

0:23:410:23:46

I'm told that bees will travel

0:23:460:23:49

six miles to get to flowers like these.

0:23:490:23:52

They're after the nectar, but as they drink,

0:23:520:23:56

pollen brushes onto their backs.

0:23:560:23:58

And when the bee visits another tree,

0:24:010:24:04

the pollen drops off and the flower is fertilised.

0:24:040:24:08

-Here we are.

-Oh, look, how wonderful!

0:24:080:24:12

How wonderful is that?

0:24:120:24:13

But if you look underneath, you see you've got little, tiny

0:24:130:24:17

-pears just developing.

-Well, I look forward to the pears.

0:24:170:24:20

But all pollinated by insects.

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Yes. The bees, the bees.

0:24:230:24:25

But trees are so clever, some have

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evolved other ways to pollinate.

0:24:330:24:36

Since they can't move, they use something that can.

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The wind.

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One of them is the Scots pine.

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In spring, it releases thousands of tiny pollen grains into the air.

0:24:460:24:51

The grains can travel 100 miles on

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the wind, until some of them land on

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these little flowers.

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Sometimes they even form vast pollen clouds,

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like this one above a yew forest.

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These clouds can be so dense they've been mistaken for forest fires.

0:25:250:25:30

And, a few months later,

0:25:340:25:36

these fertilised flowers will become pine cones, containing tiny seeds

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which float off in the breeze.

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But the fruit of many trees is too heavy to be carried on the wind.

0:25:470:25:52

They need a friendly courier to find them the perfect spot to germinate.

0:25:520:25:57

David has brought me to his wildlife centre,

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to show me the ideal messenger.

0:26:040:26:06

It's one of his favourite animals.

0:26:060:26:08

HE CLICKS HIS FINGERS

0:26:080:26:10

-He'll come.

-He's passionate about saving these endangered creatures.

0:26:100:26:15

-Here he comes.

-There you are.

0:26:150:26:17

These little bits, then he'll sit and eat it.

0:26:200:26:22

If you give him a whole nut, he'll just take it away.

0:26:230:26:26

Look at those ears. Look at how lovely he is.

0:26:260:26:29

Very, very good manners.

0:26:290:26:32

The red squirrel population has shrunk by 90% since grey squirrels

0:26:320:26:38

were introduced nearly 150 years ago.

0:26:380:26:41

So David is helping to reintroduce them around Britain.

0:26:420:26:45

All squirrels are important to how trees spread their seeds.

0:26:470:26:51

Very, very pretty to look at.

0:26:520:26:54

And those wonderful tufts at the end of their ears,

0:26:540:26:57

and the way they keep their balance with the tail.

0:26:570:27:00

Like grey squirrels, they gather the nuts and bury them for the winter,

0:27:000:27:06

but they don't have the best memory.

0:27:060:27:08

They get food, they bury it,

0:27:090:27:12

and then they forget where it is.

0:27:120:27:14

So you get a plant, you get a tree.

0:27:140:27:16

What could be better than that?

0:27:170:27:19

It's been a wonderful spring,

0:27:330:27:36

but now the days are getting longer and warmer,

0:27:360:27:40

and I can't wait to find out what happens next with my trees.

0:27:400:27:43

GENTLE PIANO MUSIC PLAYS

0:27:500:27:53

BEE BUZZES

0:27:580:28:02

This is the time of year I love most.

0:28:020:28:04

I just adore it.

0:28:040:28:07

At the heart of my garden, stands this incredible oak.

0:28:090:28:13

It towers over everything else, and it's one of my favourite trees.

0:28:170:28:21

I've asked Tony if we can uncover some of its secrets,

0:28:240:28:28

and we're going to start by working out its age.

0:28:280:28:31

So, Judi, shall we measure your tree and see roughly how old it is?

0:28:330:28:37

-Look at it!

-Isn't it magnificent?

0:28:370:28:40

Oh, it's lovely!

0:28:400:28:42

-It's..

-Got to give them a pat. Let them know you're here.

0:28:420:28:45

-I quite agree.

-Yeah. A rough guide is, if we measure the circumference

0:28:450:28:50

-at breast height...

-Yeah.

0:28:500:28:53

..and a good guide is, for every inch, is a year.

0:28:530:28:56

-Well, we have to do that!

-Well, I've got some string.

-Oh, that's convenient!

0:28:580:29:02

-AndI hope it's going to be long enough, because it's a big tree. And we'll, we'll measure it.

-OK.

0:29:020:29:06

-So, if I give you that...

-How are you going to get round?

0:29:060:29:09

-I'm going to, I'm going to go this way...

-Are you? SHE CHUCKLES

0:29:090:29:12

..and if you can hold it in one spot...

0:29:120:29:15

-Yeah.

-..and then, and I'll thread this through. I'll be back...

0:29:150:29:18

I'll be back in about a week. THEY LAUGH

0:29:180:29:21

OK.

0:29:240:29:25

If you hand me that, I can take it.

0:29:270:29:29

-Yeah.

-Are you all right?

-Yeah.

-OK. Here we are.

0:29:310:29:37

-Here we are.

-OK. Good. So, now...

0:29:390:29:43

we need to measure...

0:29:430:29:45

-That.

-..this piece of string.

0:29:450:29:47

One yard.

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Two yards.

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Three yards.

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Four yards.

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Where's the...?

0:30:030:30:06

Five yards and...

0:30:060:30:08

18 inches?

0:30:080:30:10

I should think.

0:30:100:30:12

So, five times 36...

0:30:120:30:16

-SHE CHUCKLES

-Get the calculator out.

0:30:160:30:20

Obviously, maths isn't Tony's strong point,

0:30:200:30:24

-or mine.

-Right. Five times 36...

0:30:240:30:28

-15...

-..plus 18..

0:30:280:30:31

is 198. So it's 200 years old.

0:30:330:30:36

Oh. Good for him.

0:30:390:30:42

What a lovely thing to find out.

0:30:420:30:44

My oak might just have started growing when Wellington won the

0:30:460:30:51

Battle of Waterloo in 1815.

0:30:510:30:53

But finding out its age is just the beginning.

0:30:560:31:00

I want to know what other secrets my oak holds at this time of year.

0:31:000:31:04

Tony has invited Doctor Matt Disney to my garden, to reveal some of my

0:31:080:31:13

oak's summer secrets.

0:31:130:31:15

He scans trees all over the world to explore exactly how they help the

0:31:170:31:23

planet, and he's made me a

0:31:230:31:26

three-dimensional model of my garden.

0:31:260:31:28

SHE GASPS

0:31:280:31:30

So we come through the gate and come into the clearing.

0:31:340:31:37

Oh, look! The pavilion.

0:31:370:31:39

So we have the summer house here

0:31:390:31:41

and all the other trees around the outside...

0:31:410:31:44

And the oak...

0:31:440:31:45

..and you can see your oak through the clearing there.

0:31:450:31:48

So we've stripped away all the other trees

0:31:480:31:51

from our three-dimensional picture...

0:31:510:31:53

..and we're left with your splendid oak here.

0:31:550:31:58

Oh!

0:31:580:32:00

So, one of the things that we can do is we can estimate how many leaves

0:32:000:32:04

there are on your tree. Would you like to have a guess?

0:32:040:32:07

I couldn't begin to guess.

0:32:070:32:09

So we reckon there are about

0:32:090:32:11

260,000 leaves on your tree,

0:32:110:32:15

so that's about three tennis courts' worth of leaf area.

0:32:150:32:18

I'm told that all those leaves are helping the tree to breathe in more

0:32:190:32:23

carbon dioxide, which it will then use to grow more branches.

0:32:230:32:28

So, the other thing we can do,

0:32:300:32:32

we can measure how long the branches are on your tree.

0:32:320:32:35

So, over the course of our work, over the last few years, we've been

0:32:380:32:42

all across the tropics, and we've scanned somewhere between

0:32:420:32:45

10,000 and 15,000 trees in total,

0:32:450:32:47

and so far we've found trees that are a lot taller.

0:32:470:32:49

One of the biggest trees we found was in Ghana,

0:32:490:32:52

and that tree had nearly 9km of branches,

0:32:520:32:55

and when we saw that, we thought, "Wow, that's amazing!

0:32:550:32:58

"9km of branches!"

0:32:580:33:00

Your tree's bigger than that.

0:33:020:33:04

-Of course it is.

-Your tree has 12km of branches in it.

0:33:040:33:09

A prize tree.

0:33:160:33:18

-Indeed. So far, that's our longest-branched tree.

-Really?

0:33:180:33:22

Is it? SHE GASPS

0:33:220:33:25

I'm very, very proud of it.

0:33:270:33:29

All those branches!

0:33:330:33:35

My oak must be a very healthy tree.

0:33:350:33:37

And, in 200 years, my tree must have breathed in a lot of carbon dioxide.

0:33:390:33:44

Just the wood alone weighs about 25 tonnes,

0:33:450:33:48

so that's how much carbon is stored in your tree there.

0:33:480:33:51

So, by hoovering up all that harmful carbon dioxide in the summer,

0:33:530:33:58

my oak must be helping the planet.

0:33:580:34:00

Matt wants to show me this map of the world.

0:34:020:34:05

We're looking at how the levels of carbon dioxide, seen in red,

0:34:070:34:11

change over the seasons.

0:34:110:34:12

So, in winter, the photosynthesis slows down,

0:34:140:34:17

and the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere go up.

0:34:170:34:19

So here we are, coming towards summer, and you'll see the levels of

0:34:200:34:24

CO2 in the atmosphere, in the northern hemisphere, start going

0:34:240:34:27

down as the trees start drawing down that CO2 from the atmosphere.

0:34:270:34:31

So, Matt, you can tell me absolutely, finally,

0:34:330:34:37

that my tree is helping the planet.

0:34:370:34:40

-Absolutely.

-It's riveting!

0:34:400:34:43

It's riveting, isn't it? SHE GASPS

0:34:460:34:49

I would like that there forever, just that picture of it.

0:34:500:34:54

Very, very proud of my tree, doing all that work, and here am I, going

0:35:030:35:08

about, thinking I'm so hard worked and everything.

0:35:080:35:11

Look what it's doing, my oak in the garden.

0:35:110:35:14

And all the others, actually. Don't want them to feel left out.

0:35:140:35:18

"Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?

0:35:320:35:36

"Thou art more lovely and more temperate.

0:35:360:35:38

"Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,

0:35:400:35:43

"and summer's lease hath all too short a date.

0:35:430:35:46

"Sometime, too hot the eye of heaven shines...

0:35:490:35:52

"..and often is his gold complexion dimmed...

0:35:540:35:57

"..and every fair from fair sometime declines,

0:35:580:36:03

"by chance or nature's changing course, untrimm'd."

0:36:030:36:07

My other passion is Shakespeare.

0:36:120:36:15

In 60 years, I've been in over 30 of his plays,

0:36:150:36:19

many of which involve woodland and nature.

0:36:190:36:22

Tony's heading off to explore how

0:36:270:36:30

trees like mine shaped Shakespeare's

0:36:300:36:32

world, and I want to examine how

0:36:320:36:35

they feature in his plays.

0:36:350:36:37

Since I was really a little, little girl,

0:36:380:36:41

and was taken just to see my brothers in Shakespeare,

0:36:410:36:44

at St Peter's School in York,

0:36:440:36:46

that's all I ever wanted to do, was to be in those plays,

0:36:460:36:49

and learn as much as I could about them and about him.

0:36:490:36:53

I am on Box Hill in Surrey, brushing up on my knowledge,

0:36:540:36:59

with Shakespeare expert Dr Charlotte Scott.

0:36:590:37:02

One of the things I think that's unique about Shakespeare is that he

0:37:040:37:08

was brought up in a rural environment,

0:37:080:37:10

but actually made his living in an urban environment.

0:37:100:37:13

So he's one of the few playwrights, I think, of his generation who

0:37:130:37:17

actually could bring that kind of local rural knowledge...

0:37:170:37:20

-Exactly, yes, yes.

-..to the kind of city landscape.

0:37:200:37:23

So, tell me, what was the first Shakespeare part

0:37:230:37:26

that you ever played?

0:37:260:37:27

-Ophelia.

-Ophelia.

-Not many trees in Hamlet.

0:37:270:37:30

-No, not enough trees.

-Not enough trees in Hamlet. THEY LAUGH

0:37:300:37:33

We did a production of As You Like It at the Vic in about 1958,

0:37:330:37:37

and Alec McCann played Touchstone, simply wonderfully.

0:37:370:37:41

And, you know, that line, "So this is the Forest of Arden,"

0:37:410:37:45

and I remember he came in and said,

0:37:450:37:47

"So THIS...is the Forest of Arden."

0:37:470:37:50

It used to get the most marvellous laugh.

0:37:500:37:52

-LAUGHTER

-Massive disappointment.

0:37:520:37:55

Often, Shakespeare's woods are full of menace and magic.

0:37:560:37:59

But Charlotte reminds me that they're also full of romance.

0:38:010:38:05

Cos, of course you'll remember in As You Like It,

0:38:060:38:08

the trees were so central, not only to the entire action of the play,

0:38:080:38:12

but also to the way in which Orlando

0:38:120:38:15

communicates his love for Rosalind.

0:38:150:38:19

-I think he pinned them up on the trees, doesn't he?

-He does, he does.

0:38:190:38:23

-Exactly. He pins up love letters.

-Writes them up and pins up love letters.

0:38:230:38:26

And it turns out that these love messages

0:38:270:38:30

are still to be found today.

0:38:300:38:32

So these are called arborglyphs, and they have an ancient and very, very

0:38:330:38:37

long history of tree-carving as forms of communication, but also,

0:38:370:38:41

-I think, as pictorial symbols, as...

-What did you say it was called?

0:38:410:38:45

-Arborglyphs.

-Arborglyphs.

-Mmm.

0:38:450:38:48

Oh, that's wonderful!

0:38:480:38:50

It is, yeah. And an ancient, ancient art that was practised,

0:38:500:38:53

I think, for thousands of years in terms of, not only, as we said,

0:38:530:38:57

messages, but also artworks,

0:38:570:39:00

you know, notes, sort of forms of reminders.

0:39:000:39:04

Much nicer than just signing your name on a, you know,

0:39:040:39:08

on a bit of the Tower of London.

0:39:080:39:10

That's it. Sort of an early tattoo, isn't it?

0:39:100:39:12

-Yes, I suppose it is.

-And you wonder if these tell stories of people

0:39:120:39:16

who were married or, you know, proposals,

0:39:160:39:20

that somehow this moment in this woodland marked something they

0:39:200:39:23

wanted to remember forever.

0:39:230:39:25

-And they come back and see it, maybe.

-Yeah.

-Well, it's lovely when

0:39:250:39:28

-it's like that and doesn't actually harm the tree.

-..spoil the tree.

0:39:280:39:32

-Yes.

-No, exactly.

0:39:320:39:34

And it will go, eventually, too.

0:39:340:39:36

-It will disappear and the story will end.

-Yes.

0:39:360:39:41

-We could go on for hours.

-I know. Should we go to the pub and keep going?

0:39:410:39:45

-INDISTINCT DIALOGUE

-Cymbeline, yes, exactly.

0:39:450:39:49

I've talked to Charlotte about the magic of Shakespeare...

0:39:490:39:52

..now Tony is discovering how trees like mine,

0:39:540:39:57

and especially my magnificent oak,

0:39:570:40:00

were so important to the Tudors.

0:40:000:40:03

-Hiya, Chris.

-Really good to see.

-Yeah, good to see you, too.

0:40:030:40:06

He's meeting archaeologist Chris Dobbs

0:40:060:40:09

to explore the greatest wooden treasure

0:40:090:40:12

that survives from the Tudor age.

0:40:120:40:14

So here we are coming into the Mary Rose ship hall.

0:40:150:40:18

Oh, my goodness!

0:40:180:40:21

That is absolutely incredible.

0:40:230:40:27

It's Henry VIII's warship, the Mary Rose.

0:40:400:40:43

So half of it was eroded on the sea bed,

0:40:430:40:45

but this is the ship that Henry VIII ordered

0:40:450:40:48

the building of in 1509.

0:40:480:40:50

The sheer amount of timber that's in it.

0:40:500:40:53

There's quite a few trees there.

0:40:530:40:55

It is beautiful, isn't it?

0:40:570:40:59

And it's beautiful because of those curves.

0:40:590:41:01

It was supposed to be very fast.

0:41:010:41:05

This beautiful ship was about 130 feet long.

0:41:050:41:10

It was the first specially commissioned warship

0:41:100:41:13

built by Henry VIII.

0:41:130:41:16

It marks the birth of the Royal Navy,

0:41:160:41:20

which helped forge the largest empire the world has ever known.

0:41:200:41:25

And what actually happened to her?

0:41:260:41:28

Well, she fought for Henry VIII in three wars against the French,

0:41:280:41:33

but sadly, in 1545, capsized and sank in front of the king's eyes.

0:41:330:41:38

There were 35 survivors but probably over 500 men on board,

0:41:380:41:41

so, I mean, a great tragedy of the time.

0:41:410:41:45

Parts of it are elm, but the frame is made from 600 oak trees.

0:41:450:41:52

That's about 40 acres of woodland.

0:41:520:41:56

And I suppose when they built this they had to get as much timber

0:41:560:42:01

the shape of the ship that they could

0:42:010:42:03

because they couldn't work it.

0:42:030:42:05

In the 16th century they could easily find these wonderful curved

0:42:050:42:08

-timbers to build the ship from.

-It's amazing, really, isn't it?

0:42:080:42:11

Because although they've shaped them,

0:42:110:42:13

all they've done is squared off those branches

0:42:130:42:15

but retained that...

0:42:150:42:16

-That joint is the tree.

-Exactly.

0:42:160:42:18

It's not been changed in any way apart from flattened down, really.

0:42:180:42:21

And I love that you see they've retained the shape.

0:42:210:42:23

That's absolutely what this ship is.

0:42:230:42:25

It's built out of the curves of the tree,

0:42:250:42:28

the natural curves of the trees.

0:42:280:42:30

Basically, the oak built the ship.

0:42:300:42:33

On the Mary Rose, almost everything was made of wood -

0:42:330:42:37

from the simplest object to the most advanced technology.

0:42:370:42:41

And what I really want to show you is this tiny thing here.

0:42:430:42:47

Can you guess what that is? I mean, it's absolutely wonderful.

0:42:470:42:50

No idea. It looks like a chess piece or a draught.

0:42:500:42:53

-Yeah, it looks like a draught piece, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

0:42:530:42:56

But that is actually a pocket sundial.

0:42:560:42:57

And I've got a replica of one in my pocket.

0:42:570:43:00

So what you'd have to do is you'd have to get it out,

0:43:000:43:02

orient it for north, south.

0:43:020:43:04

Then you'd have to see where the shadow is cast on the dial.

0:43:040:43:09

I mean, this just shows it was very much a wooden society.

0:43:090:43:12

Even their pocket sundials were made of wood.

0:43:120:43:16

Do you know, I'm absolutely blown away.

0:43:160:43:19

This is a floating forest.

0:43:190:43:21

Tony has brought some things from the great Tudor warship to show me.

0:43:280:43:33

Accompanying him is conservator Simon Ware.

0:43:330:43:37

-Judi, how are you?

-Oh, great to see you.

0:43:390:43:41

-Great to see you.

-Yeah, it's been quite a while, hasn't it?

0:43:410:43:43

-It's been a long time.

-Yeah.

0:43:430:43:45

Nice to see you.

0:43:450:43:47

Wow, look at this.

0:43:490:43:51

So, this is a yew longbow that was brought up from the Mary Rose.

0:43:510:43:57

Isn't that amazing?

0:43:570:44:00

Of course, one of your great friends...

0:44:000:44:02

-Robert Hardy.

-Robert would have handled this.

0:44:020:44:05

-He would have looked at this.

-And he's only just died.

-Yeah.

0:44:050:44:07

Isn't that incredible?

0:44:100:44:11

Robert Hardy was a very dear actor friend of mine.

0:44:140:44:18

In 1960, I played Catherine to his wonderful Henry V.

0:44:180:44:23

He was also the greatest expert on the English longbow,

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and conserved all the longbows found on the Mary Rose.

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-I remember him telling me that this was the machine gun...

-It was.

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-..of medieval times.

-It was, of course.

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But the bow isn't the only thing Tony's brought with him.

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-What is this?

-This is a nit comb.

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What is that?

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-Oh, a nit comb!

-Yeah.

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Isn't that amazing?

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This belonged to a member of the crew,

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so they would have had their own comb for removing head lice.

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And I think if we look in the light, you may actually be able to see some

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of the little remains of the nits and the head lice

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still in there in those fine teeth.

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-Along there?

-Yes.

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JUDI GASPS

0:45:060:45:08

That's absolutely incredible.

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It's amazing that wood was once so crucial to an entire society.

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I've learned so much about what my trees do in summer.

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They're such sophisticated individuals.

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But just how social are they?

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Do they communicate?

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I hope autumn will give me the chance to find out.

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The changing colours of the leaves show my trees are hard at work

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preparing for winter.

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Their green pigment is sucked back and stored safely under the bark

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for next year.

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The tree transfers unwanted toxins into the leaves,

0:46:170:46:22

which it jettisons to keep it healthy.

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But the impression that everything is shutting down is deceptive.

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This is when the janitors that keep the woodland clean set to work.

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This secretive scary slime mould roams the forest floor,

0:46:390:46:44

hunting down microscopic debris to eat.

0:46:440:46:47

And then there's another astonishing woodland caretaker.

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It's probably the single most important part of a woodland,

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but you'd never know it.

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There's a lot of life and action still going on

0:47:020:47:05

underground in a woodland.

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So, if you look here, you see all this fungi,

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these are the fungi that breakdown that woody matter

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that many other creatures are incapable of breaking down.

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-Almost in a circle.

-Almost.

-Have you noticed?

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We're almost in the centre.

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We're almost in centre of it, yes.

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This type of fungi is called a decomposer

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because it breaks down woody matter

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and turns it into nutrients in the soil.

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Just the tip of the iceberg,

0:47:340:47:37

so there's so much more action going on underground here.

0:47:370:47:41

Apparently, all these fungi have long threads

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like roots running through the earth sometimes for miles.

0:47:450:47:50

We've got some amazing footage here.

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And these are the threads here of fungi.

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And they've come in, they're looking for dead wood

0:47:590:48:02

and they've found this branch, this dead branch.

0:48:020:48:04

Good gracious!

0:48:040:48:06

And that's sending a signal back to start the breakdown.

0:48:060:48:08

So this is quickened up?

0:48:080:48:10

-This is quickened up.

-Yes.

-Yeah, I don't know how many times.

0:48:100:48:13

It's saying, "I've found dead wood.

0:48:130:48:16

"Come and get it."

0:48:160:48:18

And all these other threads are coming

0:48:180:48:20

and enveloping this dead wood.

0:48:200:48:24

Good heavens.

0:48:240:48:25

By breaking that wood down, it then makes it available

0:48:250:48:28

as organic matter for the tree to feed on,

0:48:280:48:31

so it's recycling.

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The fungi are the best recyclers.

0:48:330:48:35

It's amazing, isn't it?

0:48:350:48:38

-It's absolutely...

-But I've got something even better to show you.

0:48:380:48:41

This has never been filmed for television before.

0:48:410:48:44

This is called hair ice.

0:48:440:48:47

And as the fungi starts to decompose, this is a waste product,

0:48:470:48:51

it pushes the water out

0:48:510:48:53

from the wood as it breaks it down.

0:48:530:48:56

And because we're in autumn, as the first frosts appear,

0:48:560:48:59

it freezes and crystallises

0:48:590:49:03

this water that comes out.

0:49:030:49:04

So this is ice. Isn't that incredible?

0:49:040:49:07

-So beautiful.

-It is beautiful.

0:49:090:49:11

I never knew autumn was such an important time of year for my trees,

0:49:170:49:23

and Tony tells me that there's another type of fungi

0:49:230:49:26

that doesn't decompose dead wood.

0:49:260:49:29

Instead, it may do something even more astonishing.

0:49:290:49:34

It might just allow the entire forest to interact.

0:49:340:49:39

In this beautiful beech forest I'm meeting fungi expert

0:49:430:49:47

Professor Lynne Boddy.

0:49:470:49:49

She's going to tell me what's going on beneath our feet.

0:49:490:49:53

This is pretty, this forest.

0:49:540:49:55

It's very pretty.

0:49:550:49:57

It's lovely.

0:49:580:50:01

Apparently, in forests like these, a special type of fungus

0:50:010:50:06

attaches itself to the very tips of the tree's roots.

0:50:060:50:10

Now, this happens on an incredibly tiny scale.

0:50:100:50:15

So we're going to have a look at magnified images on the computer.

0:50:150:50:19

Let's have a look, let's have a look. Oh, I say.

0:50:190:50:22

So what we can see here is one of the fine roots of the tree.

0:50:220:50:26

-This is underground?

-This is all underground.

0:50:260:50:29

And you can see these very fine

0:50:290:50:32

threads extending into the soil.

0:50:320:50:35

This is the fungus.

0:50:350:50:37

These threads build up and up until they cover the tip

0:50:370:50:41

of the root completely, like a sock.

0:50:410:50:44

And from there, they spread out under the forest floor.

0:50:440:50:48

These below ground fungi are not just attached to one tree.

0:50:490:50:53

They can be attached to several, so communication can occur.

0:50:530:50:56

-Like an underground system.

-Yes.

0:50:560:50:58

The threads, are they attached to different types of tree?

0:50:580:51:02

They don't just stick to one type of tree?

0:51:020:51:04

No, that's right. Some fungi are only found on one species of tree,

0:51:040:51:08

one type of tree,

0:51:080:51:10

but other fungi can join up lots of different trees.

0:51:100:51:13

-Really?

-And if, for example, this tree here

0:51:150:51:19

was being attacked by a swarm of insects,

0:51:190:51:21

not only does it send the messages within itself,

0:51:210:51:24

it can send those same messages through the underground network

0:51:240:51:29

to adjacent trees.

0:51:290:51:32

-That's...

-It's amazing.

0:51:320:51:34

-That blows your...

-I know.

-It completely blows your mind.

0:51:340:51:36

It does, it does. So beneath our feet there is a huge network.

0:51:360:51:39

JUDI GASPS

0:51:390:51:41

Gosh, there's...

0:51:410:51:42

-There's such a lot going on, isn't there?

-There is, there is.

0:51:420:51:45

That is staggering.

0:51:450:51:47

And not only do they send messages,

0:51:470:51:49

but they can also share food and water

0:51:490:51:53

to another tree somewhere else.

0:51:530:51:56

-What a brilliant system.

-It is.

0:51:560:51:58

-It's evolved over millions...

-Yes, of course.

0:51:580:52:00

Hundreds of millions of years.

0:52:000:52:02

Lynne tells me that these fungal threads

0:52:020:52:05

for both the communicators and the decomposers

0:52:050:52:09

are so numerous that she can easily find some.

0:52:090:52:12

Oh, my goodness me.

0:52:130:52:15

Can you see this one?

0:52:150:52:16

Look at the size of this!

0:52:160:52:18

-So there are lots and lots of fine...

-Oh, my goodness.

0:52:180:52:21

..threads joined together here.

0:52:210:52:22

This is going to be a huge network. Look at this.

0:52:220:52:25

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole woodland

0:52:250:52:28

isn't connected up by this network. Look at it.

0:52:280:52:31

JUDI GASPS Good gracious.

0:52:310:52:35

-It's like a power line.

-Isn't it?

0:52:350:52:37

-Look how strong that is.

-They are.

0:52:370:52:40

Knowing that all these trees are using fungi

0:52:400:52:43

to communicate with each other,

0:52:430:52:45

I'll never think of trees as individuals again.

0:52:450:52:48

A forest like this is a very, very social place.

0:52:490:52:54

Everybody is sharing and passing everything to everybody else.

0:52:540:52:59

-Yeah.

-And sustaining everybody.

-Yes.

0:52:590:53:02

That was just mind-blowing.

0:53:020:53:04

Yeah, they're remarkable organisms, aren't they?

0:53:040:53:07

Aren't they just?

0:53:070:53:09

"That time of year thou mayst in me behold

0:53:180:53:23

"When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang

0:53:230:53:27

"Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,

0:53:270:53:31

"Bare ruin'd choirs, where late the sweet birds sang."

0:53:310:53:36

It's been wonderful to discover that my trees aren't just amazing

0:53:460:53:51

individuals, but that they're part of an extended family.

0:53:510:53:55

When I plant trees in memory of my friends,

0:53:570:54:01

I always hoped that they would feel part of a community,

0:54:010:54:04

that they would be communicating with each other.

0:54:040:54:07

And now, it's so reassuring to find out that it's true.

0:54:080:54:13

I think it might be time to add another member to the family.

0:54:150:54:18

Tony has arranged to meet David and me in my garden.

0:54:250:54:29

There's a famous Chinese proverb -

0:54:290:54:33

the best time to plant a tree was 50 years ago,

0:54:330:54:35

but the next best time is today.

0:54:350:54:38

So what better time than today to plant a tree.

0:54:380:54:43

The two trees that I've brought you are English natives,

0:54:430:54:46

British natives.

0:54:460:54:48

So one's a yew tree and one's an oak tree...

0:54:480:54:52

JUDI GASPS

0:54:520:54:53

..which are going to be around for a long time.

0:54:530:54:56

What a great present.

0:54:560:54:59

I'm going to do this one, as it's a yew tree, Robert Hardy.

0:54:590:55:02

I thought you'd choose that.

0:55:020:55:04

That would be so good.

0:55:040:55:06

-He would love that.

-How lovely.

0:55:060:55:08

-And maybe in another 300 or 400 years' time...

-Yep.

0:55:080:55:10

..someone might be making a longbow from one of its branches.

0:55:100:55:14

-You just never know.

-You never know.

0:55:140:55:16

-Shall we take them?

-Yeah.

-Oh, you are going to take them?

0:55:160:55:19

-Yeah. We're going to plant them.

-Gosh, that might be quite heavy.

0:55:190:55:22

-They're OK.

-I hope... I shall make my mind up quickly!

0:55:220:55:24

THEY LAUGH

0:55:240:55:26

David, the nearer the better!

0:55:260:55:28

-THEY LAUGH

-Yes!

0:55:280:55:30

-Maybe here.

-Yeah.

0:55:300:55:33

Just in here?

0:55:330:55:35

-Whoops!

-With that as the background?

0:55:350:55:36

-Yes. I think...

-It's a lovely spot.

0:55:360:55:38

-Wouldn't that be a good place?

-Yeah.

0:55:380:55:41

The soil in my garden is a mixture of sand and clay,

0:55:410:55:47

and Tony says my yew will be very happy here.

0:55:470:55:50

That's going to be just right.

0:55:510:55:53

How fantastic.

0:55:570:55:58

Gosh! Wonderful.

0:56:000:56:02

Oh, that is so nice.

0:56:080:56:10

Oh, I'm so pleased.

0:56:100:56:12

How appropriate, isn't it?

0:56:120:56:14

It's perfect.

0:56:140:56:16

It's absolutely perfect.

0:56:160:56:18

I've loved trees all my life, but after this year,

0:56:260:56:30

I'll never be able to look at them in the same way again.

0:56:300:56:33

I shall never be able quite to walk so nonchalantly

0:56:350:56:41

through a woodland again

0:56:410:56:44

without thinking of all that incredible work

0:56:440:56:47

that is going on under here.

0:56:470:56:49

I mean, we think we live in a society.

0:56:490:56:52

No comparison to what goes on round here,

0:56:540:56:58

how these chaps live.

0:56:580:57:01

I mean, it's mind-blowing.

0:57:010:57:04

It's wonderful.

0:57:040:57:06

And very, very exciting.

0:57:070:57:10

I don't know how I've lived so long without knowing,

0:57:100:57:13

but I know now.

0:57:130:57:15

JUDI LAUGHS

0:57:200:57:22

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