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Fukushima, north-east Japan. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
This is as close as you can get | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
to the site of a partial nuclear meltdown six months ago. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
But the events still unfolding here have consequences for us all. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:27 | |
Energy is the lifeblood of our civilization. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
But where it comes from and how we get | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
is something that touches all our lives. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
It's also, I think, one of the most important questions for science. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
We all need an energy supply that's reliable, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
but it also has to be safe. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
Around the world, many questions are now being asked | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
about nuclear power. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
Some countries are looking to abandon it, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
but what lessons should we learn from the events at Fukushima? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
What I love most about Tokyo is the night-time. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
That's when the city comes alive with such energy, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
that's when it glows so brightly. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
But it's not glowing so brightly tonight. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Things just don't look the way they normally do. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
By night, unnecessary lights are turned off. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
By day, machines stand stationary. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
And people resist turning on their air conditioning. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
A country for whom using energy | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
has become as natural as breathing air, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
suddenly, very uncomfortably, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
must hold its breath. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
And that's because since the earthquake and tsunami struck | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
over 100 miles away, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
electricity use has been rationed here. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Here in Japan, the mood has turned against nuclear power. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
You can understand why. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
But is that the right reaction? | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
I'm a professor of nuclear physics, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
but I have no agenda, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
no axe to grind. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
I'm not in the pay of the nuclear industry, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
nor the environmental movement. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Let me lay my cards on the table. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
I've always believed that nuclear power is a good thing. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
It provides vast amounts of cheap and reliable energy. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
But I want to see how it's running, out in the real world. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
How reliable is it? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
How safe is it? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
I want to leave the politics and economics to one side | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
and focus only on the science. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
After all, I am a scientist. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
But I'm also a husband and a father, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
and I want to know what's the safest option for my family's future, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
just like you. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
I want to start by going to the heart of the place | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
that has shattered many people's confidence - | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
Fukushima. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Soon after the Tsunami struck, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
news spread that the nuclear power station had been damaged. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
There was a partial meltdown in one, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
and possibly three of the reactors. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
The situation appeared to be running out of control. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Very rapidly, the perception of nuclear power began to change | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
and governments reacted. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
The German's have said | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
they'll shut down their nuclear reactors by 2022. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
The Swiss announced | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
that none of their existing nuclear plants would be replaced. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
A referendum in Italy | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
rejected plans to return to nuclear power generation. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
And an explosion at a nuclear reprocessing plant in France two days ago | 0:05:10 | 0:05:16 | |
will only have stoked these fears further. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
For the past few years, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
there'd been talk of a Nuclear Renaissance. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
Not any more. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
I've come here to separate fact from emotion, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
to see the reality for myself. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
I want answers to a couple of questions. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
Firstly, just how bad was it, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
what was the human impact? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
And secondly, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
how lasting is the damage really likely to be? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
But first, I'm heading to the exclusion zone, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
which is as close as I can get to the plant. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
'Hours after the first explosion at the power station, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
'this evacuation zone was set up.' | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
Well, ahead of me are some guards blocking the road. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
They look like they mean business. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
'Eventually, anyone living within a 20km radius of the plant | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
'was evacuated from their homes. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
'Nearly 80,000 people.' | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Well, the clean-up operation carries on at the plant | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
and these are returning workers... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
..who are just coming out of the exclusion zone. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
And this is, essentially, the boundary, this is the border. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
Beyond it, 20km in that way, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
is the Fukushima nuclear plant. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
But what is striking | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
is that for 20km in that direction | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
and a further 20km down the coast, beyond the plant, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
is complete emptiness. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Apart from the nuclear workers, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
no-one is allowed in, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
no-one lives there any more. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
That's a lot of empty space for a country as crowded as Japan. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
'But what happened to cause this?' | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
We can't get inside the Fukushima Daiichi plant, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
but in May this year, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
an international group of scientists | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
went inside to investigate what went wrong. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
There's now a well-established story | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
of what happened at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant on March 11th. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
First, the earthquake hit, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
followed by the tsunami, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
wiping out the vital power supply | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
needed to cool the reactors once they shut down. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
And they did shut down. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
This is the moment the tsunami struck the power station. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
As the 14-metre wave hit, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
it overwhelmed the sea wall, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
and swamped the diesel pumps. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
The resulting loss of power | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
shut off cooling to the reactors. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
This was crucial, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
because even though the reactors were shut down, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
they were still generating heat. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Heat remained within the reactors and they slowly started to cook. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
This led ultimately to the build-up of pressure and explosions. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
Not nuclear explosions, but gas explosions. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
Accompanied by them was the release of radioactive particles | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
out into the atmosphere. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
There was a release of steam and radioactive material, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
including isotopes of caesium and iodine. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
But there was perhaps a less well-known part of the design | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
which contributed to the explosions. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
To understand why, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
it's helpful to understand how a nuclear reactor works. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
The science behind nuclear power is actually quite simple. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
At the heart of a nuclear plant are pellets like these, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
called fuel pellets. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
They contain radioactive uranium. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Now, the way the energy is released | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
is when the nucleus of a uranium atom | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
is hit by a neutron. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Now, this splits the uranium nucleus in two, releasing energy. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
But it also releases two or three other neutrons, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
and these fly off and hit further uranium nuclei, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
forcing them to split as well. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
This process is called a controlled chain reaction. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
This all takes place inside zirconium cylinders like this. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
These contain the fuel pellets. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
As the chain reaction goes on inside, releasing energy, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
these fuel rods heat up. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Essentially, they act just like the elements of a kettle. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Just like in a kettle, they're surrounded by water, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
which they heat up, turn to steam, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
which is used to drive turbines that generate electricity. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
Now, it's the same in a nuclear power plant, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
just as it is in any other type of power plant. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
They're all essentially giant kettles. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
At Fukushima, when cooling was lost, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
the zirconium fuel rods began to overheat. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
They reacted with steam around them | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
and produced hydrogen. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
This was vented out into the reactor building | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
where it mixed it with oxygen... | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
and exploded. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
Now, the reason part of the design | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
of this particular variety of boiling-water reactor at Fukushima | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
might have contributed to the sequence of events, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
is because it made it harder | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
to deal with the steam building up in the reactor. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Let me explain. In a boiling-water reactor, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
the reactor is connected to a condensation chamber | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
which acts as relief for some of the steam. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Now, in an old reactor like Fukushima's, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
this condensation chamber was probably too small. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
Had it been larger in size, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
it would have been able to cope with more of the steam, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
giving the safety workers crucial time to deal with the problem. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
This was an old nuclear plant, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
commissioned around 40 years ago, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
but even though there was a partial meltdown here, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
much of the radiation was kept inside the plant. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
The thing about the accident that happened here | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
is that we can find reasons for it - | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
the well-told story | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
that the sea wall wasn't built high enough to withstand the tsunami. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
But the thing about the failure of this nuclear plant | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
is that it was an old nuclear plant, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
old in design, old in technology. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
And where you look elsewhere | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
at nuclear power stations of a similar age, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
they've mostly been either retired off or upgraded. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:16 | |
Understandably, many countries around the world | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
are now examining the safety of their reactors, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
but I believe we should be careful not to make a blanket judgment | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
about all nuclear power | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
on the basis of what happened here. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
But the people here still need to deal with the consequences. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
This gym in Minamisoma is today serving as a meeting point | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
for some of the people forced from their homes. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Today is the first time they've been into the exclusion zone | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
since it was created. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
A route is planned to take them home. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
They must wear dose meters | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
and there's a strict time limit of two hours. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
How do you feel about today? Are you excited? Are you nervous? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
TRANSLATION FROM JAPANESE: | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
We aren't allowed into the zone, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
so former resident Kunitomo Tokuzawa | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
is taking a camera for us | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
to chart his trip back home with his mother. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Two hours later, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
everyone returns with their carefully selected belongings. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
They're allowed to bring out just one bagful, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
measuring 70cm by 70cm. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
TRANSLATION FROM JAPANESE: | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
'Kunitomo returns with the camera | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
'and a glimpse into an abandoned world.' | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Good to see. OK, well, come and tell me all about it. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
No-one knows when these people will be allowed to return to their homes, if ever. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
Many have been forced to move to a new city in search of work. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
And for a disturbing number, their lives are still in limbo. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
Nearby is Haramachi Junior High School. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
But for now, it's also serving as an emergency evacuation centre | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
for those who were living close to the nuclear plant. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Konichiwa. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
I met Shizuo Konno, an evacuee whose home is now a classroom floor. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
Your home is just a few miles away. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
How frustrating must this be for you? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
TRANSLATION FROM JAPANESE: | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
Are you angry | 0:19:26 | 0:19:27 | |
with the way the situation has been dealt with, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
making you leave your home? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Arigato. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Shizuo is facing up to the fact that he may never work on his farm again. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
I caught up with the director of the evacuation centre, Iwao Hoshi. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
So how many people are actually living now | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
in this evacuation centre? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
TRANSLATION FROM JAPANESE: | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
And thousands of people | 0:20:38 | 0:20:39 | |
still remain in temporary and makeshift accommodation. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
You know, some of the stories I've heard today have been heartbreaking | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
and it's quite tragic to think | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
that there are tens of thousands of other stories | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
just like the ones I heard. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
But let's get things into perspective. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
The earthquake and tsunami killed over 20,000 people. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
No-one has died as a result of the fall-out from the nuclear plant. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
The International Atomic Energy Agency have said that, to date, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
no confirmed long-term health effects to any person | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
have been reported as a result of radiation exposure. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Around 30 workers were exposed to high doses initially, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
and for these people, there may be a small percentage increase | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
in their risk of eventually incurring some health effects. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
I'm in Japan, four months after the tsunami struck the plant. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
What remains of the radiation now? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
And does it justify the exclusion zone? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
This is the village of Iitate, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
population usually 6,165. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
But it's been completely evacuated, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
even though it's outside the exclusion zone. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
That's because radioactive particles from the Fukushima reactor | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
have been carried here by the weather. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Now it's entirely abandoned. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
Every house, every street... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
even this school. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
I've come here today to witness something I've never seen before. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
In fact, it's an event | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
that's only happened a few times during my lifetime, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
and that's part of a radioactive clean-up operation. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
And so, as a precautionary measure, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I'm wearing these wellington boots, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
just to make sure that I don't get any contamination | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
from any dust on the ground | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
as I walk around. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Today, scientists from Fukushima University | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
will take measurements of the soil, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
which is where most, or all, of the radioactive particles will be now, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
because they've fallen from the air to the ground. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
They're looking for two toxic elements | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
which escaped from Fukushima. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
In particular, radioactive iodine | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and radioactive caesium. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
But one of these elements, radioactive iodine, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
is only present for a short time. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
TRANSLATION FROM JAPANESE: Right now, because about four months has passed, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
I predict the iodine has disappeared. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
And that's because radioactive elements decay over time, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:20 | |
eventually changing into stable, non-radioactive forms. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
It's the half-life of an element | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
that's a good measure of how quickly this happens. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
TRANSLATION: So, only traces of caesium 137 and 134 | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
are being detected. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
So, there will only be caesium in the soil. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
How dangerous is this? How long will it remain in the ground? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
TRANSLATION: The half-life of caesium is said to be close to 30 years. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:53 | |
So, for a long time, caesium will be the biggest problem. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Back in the lab, they've found high levels of radiation | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
in the top 2.5 centimetres of the soil. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
Other studies from nearby | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
found levels more than 500 times higher than normal. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
Removing this topsoil here would be an expensive option | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
and Iitate isn't even in the exclusion zone. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
Recently, the Japanese Government | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
has been monitoring the radiation level | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
across 50 sites inside the zone. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
They've set their safety limit at 20 millisieverts per year, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
which is the same limit | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
as for people working in the nuclear industry in the UK. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
What they've found is that 35 of the sites exceeded this level | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
and the highest reading was 500 millisieverts. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
The tests will help decide whether these people can go home. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
The government has decided to keep the exclusion zone in place, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
but that's a more complex decision than it looks. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
For perspective, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
you'd get around that level, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
20 millisieverts a year, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
from two CT scans per year. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
On one hand, setting such a limit | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
protects people's health effectively, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
but on the other, that comes at a cost - | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
the upheaval of 78,000 lives. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
So let's take stock. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
Certainly, governments around the world | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
are looking to Japan to help them make a decision. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Of course, they're going to be influenced by the fact | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
that tens of thousands of people had to be evacuated, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
and that the exclusion zone carries with it an economic cost, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
as well as the human one. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
But it's also true | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
that the containment process around the reactor largely worked. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
Most of the radiation was kept in, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
which is pretty remarkable for such an old and flawed reactor. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
And, most importantly, no-one died. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
And there have been no associated radiation health risks so far. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
One of the questions that Fukushima raises is this - | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
how do we judge what level of radiation can be considered safe? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:44 | |
This question has been relevant to one place in particular - | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
the site of the biggest nuclear accident in history. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Pripyat. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
A ruined and deserted city in the former Soviet Union. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
On 26th April 1986, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
three kilometres away at the Chernobyl power plant, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
a reactor exploded... | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
releasing three tonnes of nuclear fuel. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
28 of the workers who were first on the scene | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
received extremely high doses of radiation | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
and died within four months. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
But there's another question I'm interested in. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
What was the effect of the radiation released on another group - | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
not those working at the site or helping with the clean-up, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
but the general population living here? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
Galina Chayka was among those living in Pripyat | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
at the time of the Chernobyl accident. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
Today she's returning to her home for the first time in 25 years. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
TRANSLATION: Here is our entrance. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
And here is the door. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
Now everything is broken, nothing is left. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
Oh, my flat, meet me 25 years after! | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
When the accident happened, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
Galina and her children were there to witness it. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
TRANSLATION: We went out and watched it, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
how the reactor was burning like Bengal fires, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
and kids climbed the roofs and watched it, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
until somebody said it was dangerous and made us stay inside. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
They weren't evacuated for another two days. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
Galina believes that the accident's impact began soon after. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
TRANSLATION: Soon after the accident I started to have headaches, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
terrible headaches. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
I got high blood pressure, heart problems, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
my stomach started to hurt because of all the nerves, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
and maybe I've got some sort of radiation. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
It's a situation that constantly occupies her mind. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
TRANSLATION: Now I mostly live in fear of poor health, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
disease, illnesses, death. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
You live in fear every day | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
that today you are alive, and tomorrow you get ill. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
This is the everyday fear. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
Galina is not alone. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
Many more people share the same fears. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
But it's difficult, scientifically, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
to show a link between any one person's illness | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
and their exposure to radiation. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
But, 20 years after the accident, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
a large-scale international project, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
the Chernobyl Forum, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
set out to understand the impact of the release of this radiation. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
I've come to meet Professor Mykola Tronko, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
who is in charge of the Institute of Endocrinology here in the Ukraine. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
Initially, many doctors expected Chernobyl | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
to cause different types of cancer in hundreds of thousands of people. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
But what actually happened was very different. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
TRANSLATION: Starting from 1990, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
we saw the increase of thyroid cancer incidents among children. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
It certainly caused a big discussion in the scientific world. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
'Despite this wave of cases of thyroid cancer, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
'there were no confirmed increases in any other type of cancer | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
'in the general population.' | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
TRANSLATION: We can say that problem number one, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
as far as the medical effects of the Chernobyl accident are concerned, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
is the problem of pathologies of the thyroid gland, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
particularly thyroid cancer. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
How many thousands of people | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
have been diagnosed as having thyroid cancer, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
as a result - as far as you can understand - of the accident itself? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
TRANSLATION: For all cases of thyroid cancer, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
the institute has a register of patients who were operated on | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
for thyroid cancer. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
In this register, 2,000 - 2,500 refer to radio-induced thyroid cancer. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:29 | |
The thyroids were removed, studied and stored here. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
They found that radioactive iodine from the fallout | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
had been taken up into the thyroid gland, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
and there it had caused tumours. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
It affected children more because the rate of cell division | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
is faster in the thyroid when you're young. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
This might have been prevented. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Iodine tablets contain the stable form of iodine | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
which your body takes up in preference to the radioactive form, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
so cancers don't start. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
But, unlike Fukushima, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
in Chernobyl, these tablets weren't immediately made available. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
How many deaths has this resulted in so far? | 0:34:27 | 0:34:33 | |
TRANSLATION: There were a few cases of deaths. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
The number of deaths for these patients, to be more exact, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
aged 0-18 at the time of the accident, was seven. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
That's an incredible survival rate for this type of thyroid cancer. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
Yes, a high survival rate. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
After five years, we had a survival rate of 99.5%. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
Once the findings of scientists | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
from across other contaminated areas of Belarus and Russia were added in, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:08 | |
they found a total of 15 deaths | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
amongst 6,000 cases of thyroid cancer, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
Within a population of some six million. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
People will listen to you, and they will say, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
"Yes, of course, he is in the Ukraine." | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
"He has the old Soviet mentality of sticking to a particular line." | 0:35:30 | 0:35:37 | |
"Why should we believe him?" | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
TRANSLATION: It has already been recognised | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
by the world's scientific medical community. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
WHO recognised it, the United Nations recognised it. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
These results have been published | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
in the most respected scientific journals, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
in particular, in Nature, in Science, and many, many others. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
At a human level, these deaths are, of course, significant, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
as are the cases of cancer. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
But they are lower than almost anyone expected. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
I think a lot of people will be really surprised | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
to hear what Professor Tronko had to say. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
I am pretty convinced by this work on thyroid cancer. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
The numbers are very low. But the statistics seem solid. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:35 | |
The research is highly respected and acknowledged around the world. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
Of course, it remains to be seen whether this number will grow. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
But it's certainly not this figure that's bandied around - | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
tens or hundreds of thousands of cases - | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
that seems to be purely a myth. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
The full outcome of Chernobyl is not yet known. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
But the data so far is feeding into an ongoing debate | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
about the effects of low-level radiation. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
The thing is, radioactivity is all around us. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
It's in the air that we breathe, it comes out from the ground. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
It's inside our bodies. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
The food that we eat is radioactive. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
All living tissue, for instance, contains radioactive carbon 14. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
This banana cake contains potassium 40. As do these brazil nuts. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:43 | |
So, every time I have food like this, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
I'm increasing the amount of radioactivity within my body. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
There's a constant background radiation | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
that does us no harm at all. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
It's when the level of radiation increases above that background | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
that the controversy arises. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
The scientific consensus has been that | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
any dose of radiation above the background can cause damage. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:13 | |
And so, the picture would look like this. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
Harm, against dose, gives a straight line. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
But even low-dose levels could be harmful. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
This remains the consensus. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
But there are a number of scientists who believe | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
there may be a different theory. It goes like this. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
Low doses may not be harmful at all. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
There's a certain threshold level above which the harm begins to rise. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
It's a quite different way of thinking about radioactivity, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
and its harmful effects. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
This isn't just different, it's highly controversial. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
There's an ongoing debate over the shape of the curve, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
because it's difficult to collect evidence at such low levels. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
And it's possible that there's a small section of the population | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
that may be more sensitive than others to low-dose radiation. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
While the scientific debate continues, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
the people of Pripyat must continue to live their lives. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
They've spent more than 25 years | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
trying to understand the impact of radiation on their bodies. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
TRANSLATION: What will it do to me? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
I will die. What else can it do to me? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Illnesses, suffering and death. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
What other result? | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
The studies suggest that it's unlikely that most of these people | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
will die, or get ill, from the radioactive fall-out. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
But instead, they live in constant fear | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
of what the radiation might have done to them. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
Fear and horror. Horror and fear. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Or sadness and grief. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
It's a large-scale problem, as Dr Marino Gresko knows first-hand. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:38 | |
She specialises in counselling Chernobyl evacuees. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
But she's also one herself. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
At the time of the accident, she was a nine-year-old, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
attending school here. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
TRANSLATION: As a rule, the most widespread are still | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
depressive moods, anxiety symptoms, worry for the future, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
including worry for their own health and their children and grandchildren. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
Suicidal moods and thoughts are generally present among people | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
and some have problems of alcohol abuse. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Doctor Gresko sees these problems herself, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
in large proportions of evacuees. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
TRANSLATION: Out of all people who were evacuated, about 70% suffer from anxiety and depression. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:33 | |
And about 40% possibly have alcoholism problems. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Dr Gresko's statistics refer only to her own patients. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
But there's much wider support for this view. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
The UN-backed Chernobyl Forum report has stated that | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
the mental-health impact of Chernobyl is the largest public health problem | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
unleashed by the accident to date. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
So what does this mean for the people of Fukushima who have had their lives | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
turned upside down by the tsunami and then the nuclear evacuation? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
It seems the greatest threat to their health now may be | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
fear of radiation, and the stress of evacuation. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
But of course, the events in Japan have a much wider importance. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:51 | |
We all face choices over the coming years about how we get our energy. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:59 | |
It's a question that's made all the more urgent by the issue of climate change. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
If we carry on burning fossil fuels - coal, oil and gas - at the rate we're doing, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:13 | |
then we risk changing our planet's climate, the effects of which could be devastating. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:19 | |
And, to my mind, this can never be purely a scientific problem. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
It's indisputably tied up with economics and politics. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
You'll have your views, and I'll have mine. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
But it's a debate that needs to be informed by an assessment of the scientific risks. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:40 | |
The influence of politics and economics on nuclear power is, of course, nothing new. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:50 | |
And really from the moment scientists first started to understand | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
the power bound up inside the atom, it was inevitable that | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
politicians would be drawn to this irresistible bounty of energy. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
And I think these politics have had an impact on my science. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
The science of nuclear physics | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
and its attempts to find the safest way to unleash the power of the atom. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:16 | |
The creation of the atomic bomb was one of the most monumental | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
scientific projects of the 20th century. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
It brought terrible destruction. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
But it also demonstrated the power of nuclear physics | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
and shortened America's war in the Pacific. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
After the Second World War, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
physicists were lionised as heroes, and there was this tremendous faith | 0:45:00 | 0:45:06 | |
in science to provide solutions and answers to all the world's problems. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
And as for nuclear technology, well, the belief was that it had brought | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
an end to the war, and now, it will provide us with electrical power. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:21 | |
The atomic age was born. A giant of limitless power at man's command. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:31 | |
But in the new atomic age, | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
there were deep connections between the civilian programme | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
for nuclear power, and earlier military projects to build the bomb. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
This is Bentwaters Park on the Suffolk coast. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
It used to be a US Air Force base and was at the forefront of the Cold War. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
This bunker, and every one of these, was a store for one thing - | 0:46:11 | 0:46:16 | |
nuclear weapons. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:17 | |
Each one of them was packed full of warheads, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
bombs that could have been used against Soviet Russia in the event of a war. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
Plutonium in warheads could come from both military reactors and the earlier civilian reactors. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:41 | |
And more generally, the bomb programme and the civilian power programme that followed | 0:46:45 | 0:46:52 | |
shared the same reactor physics, based on uranium. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:58 | |
But it didn't have to be that way. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
And at the time there were some who thought it shouldn't be that way. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
Scientists continued to experiment with other ways of producing | 0:47:11 | 0:47:16 | |
nuclear power - not just from uranium - and the story of what happened | 0:47:16 | 0:47:21 | |
with one of these alternative fuels is a fascinating one. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
It's one of the most overlooked elements in the periodic table. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
Thorium. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
Some scientists have made great claims for its potential - | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
it's more efficient, it burns more completely, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
and it's more abundant than uranium - | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
but others see it as a difficult element to work with. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
It's harder to trigger and sustain a nuclear reaction. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
Crucially though, thorium reactors don't produce plutonium | 0:47:50 | 0:47:55 | |
in a form that can be readily used in weapons. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
One extraordinary man was keen to drive through | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
thorium as an alternative nuclear fuel. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
His name was Alvin Weinberg. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
Now, strangely, Weinberg was one of the architects of | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
the very earliest uranium nuclear power plants in the US, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
but despite his involvement with these reactors, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
Weinberg was keen to find safer alternatives. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
He became convinced that thorium reactors were the way to go. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:27 | |
As head of a Government nuclear lab from 1955, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
Weinberg pushed forward his suggestion | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
for what he thought was a potentially safer way of producing nuclear power. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
This was a moment when the politics were faced with a choice. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:46 | |
They could either continue with the thorium reactors | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
and explore other safer options... | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
..or they could stick with the uranium-based reactors they knew and had invested in. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
They chose uranium. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
Weinberg's plans were sidelined and, after 18 years as director | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
of a key government nuclear lab, he was forced out. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
I'm not saying that thorium was, in some way, the lost saviour of nuclear power. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:31 | |
But Weinberg's story was representative of something different - | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
the shutting down of scientific options. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
Now, things have changed. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
The Cold War is long over. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
And there's a renewed interest in finding safer ways to approach nuclear power. | 0:49:54 | 0:50:00 | |
People are exploring new ideas. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
And some are returning to those which were shelved in the 1970s. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
And revisiting the work of scientists such as Alvin Weinberg. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:16 | |
What Weinberg had planned was a radically different kind of nuclear reactor. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:21 | |
Not only did he propose using thorium instead of uranium as a fuel, but to use it in liquid form. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:29 | |
It's quite incredible to think that so many of Weinberg's | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
revolutionary ideas can be found in this book that's over 50 years old. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
And it's a real shame that when the US government closed down | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
Weinberg's thorium research, they also stopped all work on liquid-fuel reactors. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:46 | |
It's perhaps too early to judge whether thorium will realise | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
its potential and live up to its promise as a nuclear fuel. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
There are many technical and scientific challenges to overcome. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
But the reason it excites me, as a nuclear physicist, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
is because of the intellectual ambition of the work. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
There are already glimmers of what might be achieved if we do experiment. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
I think one of the most exciting prospects to come out of recent research | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
is how to deal with nuclear waste. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
Long-term waste remains radioactive for tens of thousands of years. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:49 | |
So how to deal with it is a very thorny issue. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
At the moment, the only accepted thing to do | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
is to bury it, deep underground, in geologically sealed sites. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:01 | |
But there's an obvious problem with this. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
It simply sits there as a legacy for future generations. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
Here in Grenoble, in the southeast of France, they're working on | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
how to transform long-term waste into something which can be disposed of more effectively. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:22 | |
Doctor Ulli Koester is in charge of researching this process here. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
It's called transmutation. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
We can turn one element into another. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
So we can destroy long-lived radioactive waste by turning it, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:44 | |
with this transmutation, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
into short-lived isotopes which go away quickly. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
Ultimately, what happens in any nuclear reactor | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
is that by splitting atomic nuclei an element is transformed into other different elements. | 0:52:55 | 0:53:02 | |
And what they do here is rather similar, just accelerated. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:07 | |
They take heavy elements that are radioactive for tens of thousands of years and split them | 0:53:07 | 0:53:13 | |
into lighter ones that are radioactive for just tens or hundreds of years. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
Transmutation is an alchemist's dream, where people try to convert | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
lead into gold - which is actually possible | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
with a strong accelerator - but the gold price has to go a long way | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
before it becomes interesting economically. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
To perform this work they need a specialised nuclear reactor. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:41 | |
They then take a small piece of radioactive material - in this case, americium 241 - | 0:53:45 | 0:53:53 | |
and load it remotely into the reactor's core. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
Once deep inside, it's bombarded with a high flux of neutrons, triggering fission | 0:54:08 | 0:54:15 | |
of as many nuclei in the waste as possible, so burning it up more completely. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:22 | |
So here we have a 50-times higher neutron flux compared to | 0:54:22 | 0:54:27 | |
a power reactor, which means we can accelerate the process by a factor of 50. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
Instead of waiting for 50 years for something to happen, we can shorten it down to one year. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:36 | |
And this blue light in the shielding water is a sign that transmutation is happening. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:45 | |
It's called Cherenkov radiation | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
and it's created by the products released as one element is changed to another. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
After 50 days or so in the reactor, the americium, which had a half-life | 0:54:56 | 0:55:01 | |
of 430 years, has been transformed into completely different elements. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:08 | |
Each peak represents a fingerprint for an individual isotope. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:12 | |
If you find this peak we can look it up and we will find it is a decay | 0:55:12 | 0:55:19 | |
of Krypton 87, which has a much shorter half-life | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
of a couple of hours, so it will decay away very quickly. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:27 | |
It's a process that can be applied to other, more toxic waste products, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
which can be radioactive for thousands of years. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
It's not yet a working solution for our nuclear-waste problems. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
But it shows what might be possible if scientists are able to pursue wider options. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:45 | |
So, there is an important question that many of us are wrestling with - | 0:55:55 | 0:56:01 | |
should Fukushima really be the end of the road for nuclear power? | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
And, I think, my answer would be no. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
Nothing is perfect. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
There are, of course, consequences when things go wrong, | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
when there's an accident. But then, of course, this is true of all power - coal, oil, gas, renewables. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:23 | |
What's special about nuclear power is our dread of radiation. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:30 | |
But my hope is, whatever we decide, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
it will be based on a careful assessment of rational science. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:38 | |
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