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Meat, we love the stuff.

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Globally, we consume nearly twice as much as we did 50 years ago.

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But our increasing carnivorous cravings come at a price.

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This mini meat mountain weighs 80 kilos and it represents

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the amount of meat the average Briton gets through in a year.

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I want to find out how it gets onto our plates

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and what the environmental impact is.

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We already devour 65 billion animals every year.

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And that number is predicted to double, again.

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The scale and the growth in livestock production is

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inherently unsustainable.

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We can't do it.

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If we want to eat meat, is there a way to do so

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without destroying the planet?

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Does it matter what kind of meat we eat or how it has been raised?

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This is the reality, and the reality says this is green.

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So what should I be eating if I want to become

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a more eco-friendly carnivore - chicken or beef?

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Free-range or intensively farmed?

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The answers are far from obvious.

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Getting to grips with the scale of the livestock industry is

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a truly sobering task.

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Every year across the planet we slaughter

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and consume an extraordinary number of animals.

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300 million cattle. 1.4 billion pigs.

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A billion sheep and goats.

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Five million horses, two million camels.

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3½ billion ducks and turkeys,

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and 60 billion chickens.

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That's an average of nine animals for every person on the planet.

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Beyond the moral considerations, there are serious environmental issues.

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The amount of the earth's resources devoted to raising

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these vast numbers of animals is both controversial

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and difficult to measure.

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Fortunately, the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation has put together

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some very comprehensive reports on the scale of the livestock industry.

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Let's start with an overview.

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This, of course, is a map of the Earth.

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Now, the area in green, it is grazing land

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and it accounts for more than a quarter

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of the entire ice-free landmass of the Earth.

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Now, the area in orange is arable land,

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that is land given over to growing crops.

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Now, crops are mainly eaten by humans,

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but about a third goes to feeding animals.

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If you add it all up, then you get an extraordinary figure.

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A third of the entire landmass of the earth is given over

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to animals that we either eat or milk.

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That's 70% more land than a century ago, and with meat production set

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to double in the next few decades, we could rapidly run out of space.

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But the trouble with livestock

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is not just a matter of the land they occupy.

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Keeping animals in such huge numbers has other,

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less obvious effects on the environment.

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To find out what they are, I have come to America,

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where they eat more meat than any other country on Earth.

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Come on, ladies, down the hill.

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These are the Flint Hills in Kansas.

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They were once part of the Wild West.

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What do you reckon, Bill?

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And they are still home to cowboys, cowgirls and, of course, their cows.

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Whoa, Bill.

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When I'm eating meat,

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this is how I like to imagine that meat has been raised -

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in the open air, lots of space, but is this really the best way?

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If you want to be an ethical carnivore, what sort of meat

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should you be eating and how should it be raised?

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Even a farm like this, where the cattle are free to roam

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and seem in such harmony with the land,

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has a hidden environmental impact.

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The problem comes from within the cattle themselves

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and it starts with what they eat.

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Now, grass is curious stuff.

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It's made out of tough fibrous cellulose

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and most mammals find it completely indigestible.

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If I was to chew away and swallow it,

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then it would pass through my digestive system virtually unchanged

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and come out the other end, but cows absolutely thrive on this stuff.

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A cow can eat around 50 kilos of grass every day

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and convert it into a kilo or so of muscle, the muscle that we then eat.

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It's a neat metabolic trick, but it also has an unfortunate side effect.

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Nothing at the moment, but as I get closer I expect to get something.

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There we go. 2,876, that was a very high reading.

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This is a laser methane detector. It's not normally used on cows,

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but used to detect gas escaping from gas pipes.

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Anything over 100 parts per million, it makes a bleep.

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I am going to see if I can detect methane coming from these cows.

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1,700, there is a lot of methane coming out of these cows,

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and interestingly, it's not really coming out of their back ends,

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which is what you might expect, but it's from the belching of the cows.

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All the time, every moment I'm here, they're producing methane.

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4,976 parts per million, that is a lot of methane!

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One of these cattle has obviously just done a giant belch.

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If I got a reading of 1,000 parts per million

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from a leaking gas pipe, that would be alarming,

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but cattle churn methane out at an incredible rate.

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An adult cow can produce up to 500 litres every single day.

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'The cattle aren't at risk of exploding,

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'but all that methane has other serious consequences.'

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The problem is that methane is an incredibly potent greenhouse gas,

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25 times more so than carbon dioxide.

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In fact, it's been calculated that the average cow produces

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the same effect on global warming as a family car.

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'Now, cattle and other ruminants have been producing methane

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'for millions of years, but it only became a problem

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'in the 20th century, and one surprising reason for that

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'was an invention that has come to symbolise modern America.'

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What can I get for you?

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Hello, could I get a burger and fries, please?

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-OK. Anything else for you?

-No, that's great, thank you.

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OK, one with!

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Now, the hamburger was a technological marvel -

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cheap, tasty, it was easy to mass-produce.

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'The hamburger was an instant success,

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'the perfect meal for an increasingly automated convenience culture.

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'Originally the burger patties could have been made from any meat,

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'but after intense lobbying from the cattle industry,

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'an Act of Congress in 1946 stipulated that all burgers should be 100% beef,

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'and a diet already rich in meat

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saw a huge increase in beef consumption.'

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There you are, sir.

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-Great, thank you very much.

-Not a problem.

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The popularity of the hamburger meant that demand for beef

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absolutely soared.

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By the 1970s, the average American was consuming an incredible

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90lbs of beef a year, that is a quarter-pounder every single day.

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All that beef meant lots of methane,

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it also meant that they had to find a way to produce more beef.

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'The success of the hamburger played a large part

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'in an explosion in the global population of cattle.

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'Up from 400 million a century ago to an estimated 1.5 billion today.

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'As a result, methane produced from cattle is now seen

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'as a major contributor to climate change.'

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About 10% of all human activity in terms of greenhouse gas emissions

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comes from feeding cows, so are there too many on the planet?

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Well, if we're trying, really trying to think about moving

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into a lower emissions world, then the answer has got to be yes.

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So if we want to reduce the environmental impact of our diet

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perhaps we should stop eating beef altogether.

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But is there another way?

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Is it possible to make cattle more environmentally friendly

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by reducing the amount of methane they emit?

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'To find out, scientists have been studying how that methane is produced.

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'I've come to the Animal Sciences Department of the University of Nebraska

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'to see a remarkable animal experiment

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'run by Dr Samoda Fernando.'

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Well, that is extraordinary.

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I've sort of read about it

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but I've never seen anything like this before.

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He seems quite comfortable... he, she?

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It's a he, it's actually a steer.

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OK, so this has sort of been surgically implanted, that's right?

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Yeah, this is called a fistula or a cannula.

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And presumably it's pretty well the only way of studying?

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Yeah, because this allows actually direct access

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to what's happening inside the animal and I can actually take this one out.

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And..

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Presumably that's to stop getting infections and things.

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-Oh, wow.

-Yeah.

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So I'm looking into one of the stomachs?

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Yes, you are actually looking to the largest compartment, the rumen.

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It can hold 50 to 60 gallons of rumen fluid and it accounts for

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about 65% of the gastrointestinal tract of the animal.

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The rumen is the largest of the four chambers of a cow's stomach

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and it is through having direct access into that chamber

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that scientists are better able to study how cattle digest grass

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and why they produce so much methane.

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'I'm assured the animal won't feel a thing.'

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-Can I stick my hand in?

-Yeah, absolutely.

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OK, ooh, gosh.

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Ah, ooh that is odd, that is so strange.

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It is incredibly hot.

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Really very smelly now.

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I'm holding my breath.

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That is...really odd,

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having my hand inside a living, breathing cow like that in its gut.

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-He doesn't seem to mind in the slightest, does he?

-No, no.

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Hello, are you all right here?

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-So this is partially digested, is that right?

-Yes.

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-It still looks like straw, doesn't it?

-Yes.

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So where's all the methane production going on?

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So the majority of it is actually going on in the rumen,

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so if you feel some of the methane might be just coming out from here...

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Is that the major gas by-product?

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-What am I smelling at the moment?

-It should be methane.

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This rumen is full of bacteria, viruses and fungi

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and those microbes are the ones that are actually digesting

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the hay, or the cellulose that's in the hay.

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'When cattle eat grass, they are not just feeding themselves,

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'but also the trillions of microbes that live in their rumen.

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'It is those microbes that produce all the methane

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'but they are also performing a vital service -

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'breaking down cellulose into more nutritious molecules

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'that the cow can absorb.'

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So this great big sort of mixture of microbes

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is converting the hay into something which the...

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Energy-dense molecules that is absorbed by the animal

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-and used for energy for the animals.

-Right.

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Some of these microbes that's already in the rumen

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actually bypass to the small intestines and provide them

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as microbial cell protein,

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so they don't have a protein requirement like we would have

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because the microbes actually become protein,

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microbial protein for them in the small intestines.

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So the cow is actually digesting the microbes as part of its meal?

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Yeah, in the small intestines, microbial cell protein.

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So in a funny way a cow is...well, not exactly a carnivore,

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but not entirely a herbivore,

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-it's actually living, itself, on living microbes?

-Yeah.

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The cow's ability to harness these microbes' digestive skills

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to feed itself is a brilliant adaptation

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and, crucially, it has been shown that you can change

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the balance of microbes within the rumen and dramatically reduce

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the amount of methane they produce by simply changing the cow's diet.

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This means raising cattle on grass

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might not be the greenest way of farming them.

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So I'm going to see an alternative farming system

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that some people claim is more eco-friendly.

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It was first devised in the 1950s, helping to produce

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the huge amounts of beef demanded by the hamburger industry,

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and it is still used to produce the majority of American beef.

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I'm going towards a different sort of farm,

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the sort of farm where a lot of the hamburger meat comes from.

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It's charmingly called a CAFO -

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a Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation -

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and it's just over here on the left.

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This is the Wrangler Feed Yard, just outside Amarillo in Texas.

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Its 500-acre site is a temporary home to 50,000 cattle.

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They are brought to feed lots like these at about a year-old

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and are fattened on a carbohydrate and protein-rich diet based on corn.

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They stay six months, put on about 300 kilos in weight,

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then they are shipped off to be slaughtered.

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'If you go to America, the chances are that any beef you eat

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'will have come from a feed lot like this,

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'and similar operations are beginning to appear in the UK.'

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Here's the most extraordinary thing I think I've seen for a long time.

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Just the scale is awesome. I mean, really quite awesome.

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It is bleak and there's something about them all,

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eating and staring at you,

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I'm trying to separate my sort of feelings of, frankly,

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a little bit of guilt as a meat eater with just the way it's done.

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'Seeing this could put you off eating beef altogether.

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'Raising cattle in these vast numbers seems to be

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'the very antithesis of eco-friendly farming.

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'Some feed lots have been criticised for poor welfare standards

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'and for polluting the local environment.

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'Not surprisingly, Dr Mike Engler, the CEO here thinks

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'they deserve a better reputation.'

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-Hello.

-Michael, welcome to Wrangler Feed Yard.

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The first thing that strikes you is it is a little bit bleak,

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it's not a romantic vision, a sort of green vision.

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-You wouldn't think so, would you?

-No.

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Well, you know, we can get the animal to market weight

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in less days of their existence than they can on grass,

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and so we've reduced the total amount of methane emitted.

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So if the goal is to produce the most amount of beef

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with the least amount of resources,

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this is where you can accomplish part of that solution.

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We are part of the solution not the problem.

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Are they happier? Looking at them, it's difficult to tell,

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I have no idea what a happy... I mean, to be honest they look neither

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more nor less happy than most of the ones I see in a field, but..

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They're herding animals and they don't want to be alone,

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so what we've given him here in this pen is a herd of animals.

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Their behaviour is very similar to an animal's out on range or on pasture.

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It doesn't look green, it really doesn't look green.

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But you would argue that this method is,

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oddly enough and paradoxically enough,

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-more green than sticking them out in a field, would you?

-Absolutely.

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One of the things I have a pet peeve about here in the United States,

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we hear it in politics all the time, perception is reality.

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It's not. It doesn't change reality.

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In advertising and in politics, perception is reality,

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I understand, but in the world where we're trying to produce

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food for people, this is the reality and the reality says this is green.

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Of course, it all depends on what you mean by "green".

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The secret to the feed lot's ability to produce more beef in less time,

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and therefore to reduce their methane emissions,

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lies in the vast amount of grain they feed the cattle.

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Nearly 40% of the corn grown in America is fed to livestock.

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To critics, this is a tremendous waste of land and grain,

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but to Dr Engler and others,

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it is this diet that is the key to the farm's success.

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The main ingredient in the cow's feed is corn,

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turned into cornflakes, much like we eat.

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'But those flakes are also mixed with a number of other ingredients

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'into a carefully formulated diet.'

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-That's a relief, it's very noisy out there, isn't it?

-Absolutely.

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This is what I saw the cows eating earlier, is it?

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Yes, this is what's in most of the feed box.

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When the cows first arrive, we actually start 'em on this ration.

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Don't be deceived, though. It's green because of blue food dye.

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What it's actually made from is the by-product,

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the wet by-product from a high-fructose corn syrup plant.

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We also feed a by-product from the ethanol industry

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which, of course, starts with corn.

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This one is the corn gluten feed in a pelleted version.

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We feed this for protein.

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I nearly forgot, though, we also have liquid fat that we add.

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About 2% of the ration would be in this.

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Do they also influence the amount of methane that the cow's producing?

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Absolutely.

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It's not quite a reduction to 50% but it is a significant reduction.

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OK, so close to 50%.

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In addition, he'll gain weight faster on this high-caloric diet,

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so on the same number of days on this diet, we'll have

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twice as much weight gain with about half as much methane production.

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-Right, so that's a kind of win/win situation?

-Absolutely.

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'But there is something that worries me.

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'They also feed their cattle growth hormones and antibiotics

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'such as Rumensin, which in Europe are banned from the diet of livestock.'

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Doesn't that give you pause for thought?

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No, because there's been no medical reason

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to ban that use in animal agriculture.

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Aren't you worried about feeding resistance or doing something...?

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No, because no-one uses it in human medicine.

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You see, nonetheless, it is the one thing that has disturbed me,

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in a way. I am just brought up in the tradition

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you absolutely do not use antibiotics unless you have to.

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Well, they're very complementary technologies.

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Because, you know, if you're going to go to all this trouble

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to formulate a scientific diet and you don't avail yourself

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of the things that have been developed to make the most

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out of what you've done, then in some cases you've just wasted your money.

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-OK, that's fairly hardcore.

-Yeah.

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'The feed lot is not a system that was designed to be eco-friendly.

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'But it is a surprising

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'and uncomfortable truth that the economic efficiency demanded

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'by farms like these can also equate to environmental efficiency.'

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Studies show that cows raised this way produce up to 40% less

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emissions per kilo of meat than grass-fed cattle.

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By those measures, this intensive form of farming is

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more environmentally friendly than raising cattle on the plains.

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Now this place is a real paradox.

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In many ways it's about as far from a conventional green vision

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of the future as you can possibly imagine.

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Animals in pens, fed corn, antibiotics and hormones.

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On the other hand, if you do it this way, then you can get more meat

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in less time with much lower levels of methane gas production.

0:24:010:24:05

So which method is genuinely greener?

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And this is one of the great problems of trying to be

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an eco-friendly meat eater. Different farming systems

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can be better for different aspects of the environment.

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If you want a system which uses a relatively small amount of land

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or produces a relatively small amount of emissions,

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or uses a relatively small amount of water,

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they're all facing in different directions, so there isn't

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a kind of right answer to what environmental sustainability means.

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Does it mean an extensive grazing system where

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animals are largely living on pasture?

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Or does it mean an intensive system where you're putting

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a lot of food into the animals

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and ending up with a relatively low emissions-per-unit weight?

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Those two things are both ways of looking at environmental sustainability

0:25:020:25:06

but they're both quite different.

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And this point is reflected around the world. Wherever we look,

0:25:100:25:14

we find different farming systems

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and conditions that raise very different environmental issues.

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In Britain and Ireland, we have lots of lush green grass,

0:25:220:25:25

and well-managed grazing is relatively low impact.

0:25:250:25:30

But in other areas, like Sub-Saharan Africa,

0:25:310:25:34

where grasslands are less fertile,

0:25:340:25:36

overgrazing risks permanently degrading the land,

0:25:360:25:40

even turning some areas into desert.

0:25:400:25:43

In South America, demand for new pasture has meant

0:25:440:25:47

the cutting down of millions of hectares of Amazon rainforest.

0:25:470:25:52

That in turn has led to a massive loss of wildlife

0:25:520:25:56

and the release of huge amounts of carbon into the atmosphere.

0:25:560:26:00

Elsewhere in Brazil and Argentina, vast areas of natural land

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are still being ploughed up to create soya plantations,

0:26:100:26:13

soya that is then exported around the world to feed livestock.

0:26:130:26:19

If you had chicken or pork for your Sunday roast,

0:26:190:26:22

it was probably fed on South American soya.

0:26:220:26:26

'Assessing the combined effect of all these factors

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'is extraordinarily difficult.'

0:26:300:26:32

But the United Nations have had a go,

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by focusing down on the carbon footprint,

0:26:350:26:39

the effect of all that activity

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on man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

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'They have assessed every element in the global livestock system.

0:26:460:26:51

'The methane that comes from ruminant digestion alone

0:26:510:26:54

'is equivalent to adding 2.8 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide

0:26:540:26:58

'to the atmosphere every year.'

0:26:580:27:00

Managing the manure produced by farm animals creates

0:27:030:27:06

another 700 million tonnes.

0:27:060:27:09

The carbon stores lost by chopping down forests

0:27:110:27:14

and degrading habitats also adds 700 million tonnes.

0:27:140:27:18

Growing crops to feed animals is responsible for 2.6 giga tonnes.

0:27:200:27:26

Compared with that, the 100 million tonnes released by transporting

0:27:260:27:32

crops and meat around the world seems almost trivial.

0:27:320:27:36

'By adding these and many other factors together, we can estimate

0:27:380:27:42

'the total impact of livestock production on man-made greenhouse gas emissions.'

0:27:420:27:48

It's clearly been a mammoth task,

0:27:480:27:50

and the figures have been revised several times,

0:27:500:27:52

but the latest best estimate

0:27:520:27:55

is 14.5% of all the man-made greenhouse gas emissions

0:27:550:28:01

can be blamed on the animals that we either eat or milk.

0:28:010:28:05

'And it's because of this massive environmental impact that

0:28:060:28:09

'modern livestock farming has become such a contentious issue.'

0:28:090:28:13

Some see industrial agriculture as a miracle.

0:28:140:28:17

I see it as a mirage.

0:28:170:28:19

The problem with industrial agriculture is it's not just about cows,

0:28:190:28:24

industrial agriculture is incredibly hungry for oil

0:28:240:28:28

to produce artificial pesticides and fertilisers to power machines.

0:28:280:28:33

It's incredibly thirsty for water to irrigate crops to feed farm animals.

0:28:330:28:39

It's madness, it's madness to be feeding those cattle people food.

0:28:390:28:44

It's madness to be destroying the Argentinian countryside

0:28:440:28:49

to feed the factory-farmed animals in Britain and Europe.

0:28:490:28:53

Such is the size of the global livestock industry

0:28:570:29:00

that its carbon footprint is about the same as

0:29:000:29:03

the contribution made by transport -

0:29:030:29:05

all the world's cars, trains, boats and planes combined.

0:29:050:29:11

So you can see the scale of the problem if you want to be

0:29:130:29:16

an eco-friendly carnivore, but can you reduce your own personal

0:29:160:29:20

contribution by choosing the right sort of animal to eat?

0:29:200:29:23

This is a rodizio, a Brazilian barbecue restaurant.

0:29:310:29:36

'It is a temple to meat.'

0:29:390:29:41

-Rump side of beef?

-Yes, delicious.

0:29:410:29:44

'Great chunks of meat.'

0:29:440:29:47

-Lamb?

-Fantastic, yes, please.

0:29:470:29:49

'Cooked on skewers and carved at your table.'

0:29:490:29:52

-Pork loin?

-Yes, please.

0:29:520:29:54

'But which meat should you choose

0:29:540:29:56

'if you want to reduce the carbon footprint of your diet?'

0:29:560:29:59

Yes, please.

0:29:590:30:01

So I've got four different plates of meat.

0:30:010:30:04

Got some beef, some lamb, some pork and chicken.

0:30:040:30:09

Each of them about 100 grams, similar in nutritional value,

0:30:090:30:13

but the amount of food and energy required to get them here

0:30:130:30:17

has been very different.

0:30:170:30:19

'The first thing you need to know is that animals vary wildly

0:30:220:30:26

in the efficiency with which they convert food into flesh.

0:30:260:30:30

'One way to compare them is by looking at the amount

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'of protein they need to eat to produce their meat.'

0:30:350:30:38

Let's start with our old friend, the cow. The cow is a ruminant

0:30:400:30:43

and its digestion is not very efficient.

0:30:430:30:46

'Exact figures vary, depending on

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'whether they are fed on grass or grain,

0:30:480:30:51

'but on average, cattle need to consume 450 grams of protein

0:30:510:30:56

'to produce 100 grams of cooked beef.'

0:30:560:31:00

Now, the sheep is also a ruminant, but it takes

0:31:000:31:02

almost twice as much protein to produce this amount of meat.

0:31:020:31:06

Now, the pig is an omnivore, eats pretty well anything

0:31:090:31:12

and it is much more efficient.

0:31:120:31:15

'A pig only needs 110 grams of protein

0:31:150:31:18

'to produce 100 grams of pork.

0:31:180:31:21

'But top of the list is the chicken,

0:31:220:31:26

'which only needs 75 grams of protein in its diet

0:31:260:31:31

'to produce 100 grams of meat.'

0:31:310:31:33

Now, feed efficiency ratios aren't everything,

0:31:330:31:37

you also have to take into account the amount of energy that goes in,

0:31:370:31:41

the amount of gas that these animals produce.

0:31:410:31:43

'By adding together all these factors, it is possible to produce

0:31:430:31:47

'a single figure for the carbon footprint of each meat.

0:31:470:31:53

'Again, the exact results vary between farms and systems,

0:31:530:31:56

'but these figures are broadly true

0:31:560:31:58

'of the meat we can buy in supermarkets.

0:31:580:32:01

'The worst offenders are cattle,

0:32:010:32:03

'releasing the equivalent of 16kg of carbon dioxide

0:32:030:32:08

'for every kilo of meat produced.

0:32:080:32:11

'In at number two is the sheep, with a figure of 13.'

0:32:110:32:15

Number three, we have the pig, considerably less, with five kilos,

0:32:150:32:20

and best of all is chicken.

0:32:200:32:23

'On average, the production of a kilo of chicken meat only releases

0:32:250:32:28

'the equivalent of 4.4 kilos of CO2.

0:32:280:32:32

'Per kilo, its carbon footprint is about a quarter that of beef.'

0:32:320:32:36

So if you're worried about your carbon footprint,

0:32:380:32:40

then you are obviously better off eating chicken

0:32:400:32:43

than you are one of the ruminants, like the sheep or the cow.

0:32:430:32:47

'Chicken has also become a very cheap source of meat.

0:32:510:32:54

'We eat five times more than we did 50 years ago.

0:32:560:33:00

'Fried chicken is becoming our takeaway of choice,

0:33:000:33:04

'a single shop can sell 600 pieces of chicken a night.

0:33:040:33:08

'Which begs a fundamental question.

0:33:090:33:12

'Where do all those chickens come from?'

0:33:120:33:16

Now, the thing is, as you drive through the British countryside,

0:33:190:33:23

you see cows, you see sheep, but you never, or very rarely, see chickens.

0:33:230:33:27

'I'm on my way to find where they are hiding.'

0:33:290:33:33

So this is Uphouse Farm and I'm here to meet chicken farmer, Nigel Joyce.

0:33:350:33:41

'The reason we don't see most of the chickens we eat

0:33:430:33:46

'while they are still alive

0:33:460:33:48

'is that they are reared indoors, in sheds like these.'

0:33:480:33:51

So this kind of reminds me of going into an operating theatre,

0:33:510:33:56

-putting some over-boots on.

-Yes, indeed.

0:33:560:33:59

Right...

0:34:010:34:02

Wow! This is enormous, isn't it?

0:34:030:34:05

I've never seen anything like this before.

0:34:050:34:09

There's 54,000 birds in here.

0:34:090:34:11

'Intensive chicken farming has had a bad reputation.

0:34:110:34:15

'In the UK today, some egg-laying birds are still kept

0:34:150:34:19

'in so-called enriched cages.

0:34:190:34:22

'But most of the birds raised for meat are kept in barns like this.'

0:34:220:34:27

HE SNIFFS

0:34:270:34:28

And the thing which surprises me is it actually smells very nice.

0:34:280:34:32

-Yeah.

-I mean, I was expecting a terrible sort of ammonia smell

0:34:320:34:36

or something like that.

0:34:360:34:38

Everybody who walks into these sheds always expresses surprise.

0:34:380:34:43

The other thing they're surprised about

0:34:430:34:46

is how settled the birds are, and contented.

0:34:460:34:50

No, I was expecting again to see a much more sort of violence

0:34:500:34:53

going on, lots of pecking.

0:34:530:34:54

You know, people expect them to be going up the walls, almost,

0:34:540:34:58

because they're sort of frightened or something,

0:34:580:35:01

but it's part and parcel of our job

0:35:010:35:02

to keep them in a calm and relaxed state.

0:35:020:35:05

How many chickens are you growing here on the farm per year?

0:35:050:35:09

We're doing between sort of 5½ and six million a year.

0:35:090:35:13

Wow. That's big numbers!

0:35:130:35:16

That sounds huge numbers,

0:35:160:35:18

but the UK consumer is consuming nearly 19 million a week.

0:35:180:35:23

Right, yeah.

0:35:230:35:24

You're just one of many. Yeah, OK.

0:35:240:35:26

'To produce chickens in the numbers we consume,

0:35:280:35:31

'the whole process has been mechanised.

0:35:310:35:33

'In hatcheries similar to this, all around the world,

0:35:350:35:38

'billions of eggs are incubated and hatched every week

0:35:380:35:42

'and the chicks are processed

0:35:420:35:44

'to be delivered to the farms when they are just one day old.

0:35:440:35:48

'The industrialisation of meat production

0:35:510:35:54

'puts some people off eating meat

0:35:540:35:56

'and has driven many others to seek free-range alternatives.'

0:35:560:36:01

You can see why.

0:36:050:36:07

The day-old chicks that arrive here will spend the remaining

0:36:070:36:10

five weeks of their short lives in these sheds.

0:36:100:36:13

And it is not just the system that has been optimised,

0:36:160:36:20

the chickens have been bred to grow as quickly and efficiently as possible.

0:36:200:36:26

If we compare a modern, so-called broiler chicken

0:36:270:36:31

with one of its ancestors from the 1950s,

0:36:310:36:33

you can see how it can grow to almost twice the size

0:36:330:36:37

in half the time,

0:36:370:36:39

piling on muscle especially on the breast.

0:36:390:36:42

'A dilemma for the ethical carnivore is that, just like the cows

0:36:440:36:47

'in America, when it comes to carbon emissions, raising chickens

0:36:470:36:51

'this way is more environmentally efficient than free-range farming.'

0:36:510:36:56

So, from what I've read, this is pretty much

0:36:580:37:00

the most efficient way that you can raise meat.

0:37:000:37:03

If you're looking at saving the planet, and you want to eat

0:37:030:37:05

a meat protein, this is probably the only way to do it.

0:37:050:37:08

Right. I think I might put him back down now.

0:37:080:37:11

Yeah, he'd be very happy if you did that.

0:37:110:37:14

I think he'd be happier.

0:37:140:37:16

Off you go, then.

0:37:160:37:17

In the last ten years

0:37:180:37:20

there has been a growth in an academic discipline

0:37:200:37:23

called life cycle analysis which has been

0:37:230:37:26

a very effective way of looking at the environmental impact

0:37:260:37:31

along the whole life cycle of a particular product.

0:37:310:37:35

So if you take a chicken, it takes into account

0:37:350:37:37

the environmental impacts associated with producing the feed,

0:37:370:37:41

rearing the animals - that's height, lighting, heating, slaughtering them,

0:37:410:37:45

transporting it until it reaches your dinner table.

0:37:450:37:49

And one of the surprising findings of life cycle analysis

0:37:490:37:52

is that very intensively reared livestock - for example,

0:37:520:37:56

intensive broiler chickens, have a lower carbon footprint,

0:37:560:38:01

they're more greenhouse gas-efficient to produce than free-range chickens.

0:38:010:38:05

In fact, according to a recent study from Nottingham University,

0:38:050:38:10

raising chickens indoors like this is the most energy-efficient form

0:38:100:38:14

of livestock farming.

0:38:140:38:16

By that measure, this is the greenest form of meat you can buy.

0:38:160:38:22

Well, that wasn't exactly what I was expecting.

0:38:280:38:31

I mean, there are lots of legitimate welfare concerns

0:38:310:38:34

when it comes to intensive farming, but I thought those chickens

0:38:340:38:37

were remarkably well cared for, and if we really do want to

0:38:370:38:40

go on eating a billion chickens a year, which is what we're

0:38:400:38:44

doing at the moment in the UK, then I really can't see much alternative.

0:38:440:38:49

Now, at the moment we can just about satisfy the world's

0:39:000:39:04

lust for meat by more efficient and intensive farming.

0:39:040:39:07

But what's going to happen in the future as the population grows

0:39:070:39:11

and tastes change?

0:39:110:39:13

'A look at the pattern of global meat consumption reveals

0:39:150:39:17

'the scale of the problem.

0:39:170:39:19

America is the most carnivorous country.

0:39:200:39:23

On average, every American gets through 120 kilos of meat a year.

0:39:230:39:28

'In Britain, like most of Europe, we consume quite a bit less - about 80 kilos a year.'

0:39:300:39:36

In Europe and North America, we have hit peak meat.

0:39:360:39:40

Consumption of meat has either levelled off or it's declining.

0:39:400:39:44

In the developing world, however, consumption of meat is still soaring.

0:39:440:39:48

Take the example of China. Now, in the 1960s, the era of Mao Tse Tung,

0:39:480:39:53

the Chinese were, on average, eating just 11 grams of meat a day.

0:39:530:39:59

That's about four kilos a year. Now the Chinese are much richer

0:39:590:40:03

and they're eating 55 kilos a year, mainly pork and chicken.

0:40:030:40:08

Now, that is still less than us per head, but there are an awful

0:40:080:40:12

lot of Chinese, which means that in the last 50 years in China alone,

0:40:120:40:16

meat demand has increased

0:40:160:40:19

by an incredible 70 billion kilos a year.

0:40:190:40:24

'And this pattern of greater prosperity leading to greater

0:40:240:40:28

'meat consumption looks set to be repeated all over

0:40:280:40:31

'the developing world. Coupled with population growth,

0:40:310:40:36

'the demand for meat is expected to increase dramatically.

0:40:360:40:40

'It's predicted that by 2050 we will have to produce twice as much

0:40:400:40:43

'meat as we do now, and that will mean not only many more animals

0:40:430:40:48

'but also the crops to feed them.'

0:40:480:40:50

Clearly, there is not enough land

0:40:520:40:54

and resources to be able to do that sustainably.

0:40:540:40:58

'We already devote a third of the planet's surface,

0:40:590:41:02

'and over 30% of the crops we grow, to raising livestock.

0:41:020:41:06

'Even with the most efficient forms of intensive farming,

0:41:070:41:10

it will be difficult to dramatically increase meat production without

0:41:100:41:15

'putting severe strains on the Earth's resources. Using more land,

0:41:150:41:19

'threatening the world's remaining wild habitats and, crucially,

0:41:190:41:24

'growing more crops to feed animals that could just as well be fed to humans.'

0:41:240:41:30

I think there is increasing recognition that the scale

0:41:320:41:36

and the growth in livestock production is inherently

0:41:360:41:40

unsustainable, we can't, we can't do it.

0:41:400:41:44

I think that as the scale of the environmental problems

0:41:450:41:49

we face become more and more apparent

0:41:490:41:52

that questions of consumption need to be explored.

0:41:520:41:56

In a world of nine to ten billion people,

0:41:560:41:58

we have to think very carefully about how we best use our land.

0:41:580:42:03

We have to ask ourselves the question, "Should this land be

0:42:030:42:06

"used better to produce grains that feed humans directly, or to

0:42:060:42:10

"produce grains to feed livestock that then less directly feed humans?"

0:42:100:42:16

One of the inevitable conclusions is

0:42:230:42:26

that if you want to be a carnivore who cares about the planet,

0:42:260:42:29

you are going to have to change your meat consumption.

0:42:290:42:33

We are also going to have to exploit other forms of farming that

0:42:330:42:37

put less strain on the planet's resources.

0:42:370:42:41

I've come to the Shetland Islands, nearly 150 miles off the coast

0:42:410:42:44

of Scotland, where they produce one of the most efficient

0:42:440:42:48

and tasty forms of farmed animal protein in the world.

0:42:480:42:53

In the middle of January, it's pretty bleak and barren,

0:42:530:42:57

but people have been drawn to these islands for over 6,000 years,

0:42:570:43:01

because of the rich waters that surround them.

0:43:010:43:04

'The sea is obviously a source of fish

0:43:070:43:09

'but large-scale fishing is just as controversial as livestock

0:43:090:43:13

'farming and also has a damaging impact on the environment.'

0:43:130:43:19

There is however a farm out there that year after year

0:43:190:43:22

goes on producing huge amounts of sustainable meaty protein,

0:43:220:43:27

and it does so with very little energy input.

0:43:270:43:30

In fact, all you really need is quite a lot of rope like this.

0:43:300:43:36

I've come here to meet Michael Tate who's agreed to brave

0:43:360:43:39

the conditions to take me to his farm out on the sea loch.

0:43:390:43:43

Nice to see you, turned out nice(!)

0:43:430:43:46

-Yeah, welcome and welcome aboard.

-OK, thanks.

0:43:460:43:48

Just take a hold of the rail.

0:43:480:43:50

'This small patch of sheltered water is a mussel farm.

0:43:570:44:02

'Hanging below the water are 19km of rope

0:44:040:44:08

'covered in hundreds of tonnes of mussels.

0:44:080:44:11

We're in among the structure of the mussel farm here where you've got these headline ropes up top

0:44:130:44:18

and down from there, hanging into the sea, is the dropper ropes.

0:44:180:44:21

Is it really as simple as just lowering the ropes in the water

0:44:210:44:24

and waiting for the mussels to latch on?

0:44:240:44:26

In effect, yes, you're right.

0:44:260:44:28

We hang the mussel ropes, spat collection ropes,

0:44:280:44:30

into the sea in the spring, the spat hopefully settles

0:44:300:44:34

onto those ropes. We'll just have a look at these mussels here now.

0:44:340:44:37

These mussels are coming up to be about three years old now.

0:44:370:44:40

And ready for harvest.

0:44:400:44:41

How many tonnes of mussels can you harvest a year?

0:44:410:44:45

Our company harvests about 1,000 tonnes of mussels a year.

0:44:450:44:48

Wow.

0:44:480:44:50

'The great thing about this form of farming is it has a very low

0:44:500:44:53

'carbon footprint.

0:44:530:44:55

'The mussels spontaneously grow on the ropes with practically no inputs.

0:44:550:45:00

'The largest source of energy that goes into farming them

0:45:000:45:04

'is the fuel needed to power the harvesting boat, and that small carbon footprint

0:45:040:45:09

'is further reduced by the fact the mussels actively soak up carbon

0:45:090:45:13

'and use it to build their shells, locking it away from the atmosphere.'

0:45:130:45:19

They've had a pretty good clean up,

0:45:200:45:22

so from being on the ropes to now being ready to

0:45:220:45:24

sort of process them, we take out the little beards here, so this is

0:45:240:45:28

what they use to hole on to the ropes, and these are

0:45:280:45:31

just removed, and that's it - they're ready to eat after that point.

0:45:310:45:35

-It is wonderfully simple, isn't it?

-Very, very simple.

0:45:350:45:38

So there's about a tonne of mussels in here - incredibly efficiently

0:45:400:45:44

harvested and very low carbon footprint.

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It's about 250 grams of carbon dioxide equivalent

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per kilo of mussels.

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'That makes mussels one of the most efficient forms of farmed animal protein.

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'Their carbon footprint per kilo of meat is about ten times less

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'than that of chicken and 30 times less than beef or lamb.'

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Not only are they eco-friendly,

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but they are also a healthy source of protein, low in fat,

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and with high levels of omega-3 fatty acids and vitamin B-12.

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'Despite this, most of the mussels

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'we produce in Britain are exported to the rest of Europe.'

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Right...nice hot mussels, wind blowing loudly outside,

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let's see what they taste like.

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Mm, well, certainly the freshest I've ever had,

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and even though I say so myself, they are rather well cooked.

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Now, the demand for mussels is on the rise. That may partly be

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due to the fact they justifiably have this eco-friendly reputation,

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and that takes a little bit of the pressure off meat production.

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Certainly gives me a warm glow knowing how little damage

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they're doing to the environment.

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'So you could improve your own health

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'and that of the planet by replacing the occasional meat meal with

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'a bowl of mussels. And though they are never realistically going

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'to replace chicken or beef, they are one of a number of alternative

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'sources of animal protein that we could use to bolster our diets.'

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Fish farming, though controversial, is also energy efficient.

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It certainly takes the pressure off wild fish stocks.

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In many parts of the world, insects are a staple part of the diet

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and there's no reason why they shouldn't find their way

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onto our plates, if only we could overcome the yuck factor.

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Further in the future, there is

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the prospect of growing artificial meat. Laboratory-grown

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burgers seem like science fiction, a bit Brave New World,

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but some people believe they may one day be a serious alternative to farming.

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Meat gown in laboratory has, to my mind, a great deal of potential.

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It's ten, 15 years away from being marketable,

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but if we can produce meat protein near market in towns and cities

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with a fraction of the environmental damage,

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that's got to be a good thing.

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I find it hard to believe that I'm going to be sitting down to

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a Sunday lunch of lovingly reared laboratory meat any time soon.

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But I'm also feeling rather gloomy about the apocalyptic alternatives.

0:48:540:48:59

Surely it must be possible to rear meat humanely

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and in ways which are less destructive to the plant.

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Come on, come on.

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So I've come to Dorset to see Simon Fairleigh, a farmer,

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author and environmentalist.

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'He has been crunching the numbers and thinks it can be done by

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'returning to traditional farming methods.'

0:49:180:49:22

-Hi, good morning, Simon.

-Good morning.

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-How's she doing?

-She's all right. She hasn't got much milk now, it's

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right at the end of the lactation, she's due to calve in seven weeks.

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Right, do you mind if I have a squeeze? I've never milked a cow.

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OK.

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COW LOWS

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Very calm.

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Ooh, there we go!

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You kind of imagine it's uncomfortable.

0:49:520:49:55

If you grab bits of me and gave it a squeeze like this...

0:49:550:49:57

You should see what the calves are like on her, you know, I mean, don't be afraid.

0:49:570:50:01

MICHAEL LAUGHS

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-I think it's because we kind of extrapolate away from our own anatomy.

-Very likely.

0:50:030:50:08

You're thinking, "No."

0:50:080:50:10

-You'll have to get a bit faster than that.

-OK, a bit faster.

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'The first thing that Simon points out is that we keep

0:50:140:50:17

'livestock for reasons beyond their ability to produce meat.'

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As ruminants, what they're particularly good at is

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digesting very fibrous difficult stuff,

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stuff that we can't eat, like grass, leaves and so forth,

0:50:250:50:29

and then they're producing dairy, in this case.

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A number of other products - meat, leather or wool if it's sheep,

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draught animals for pulling ploughs and so forth.

0:50:370:50:40

Still very important in many parts of the world

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and, perhaps most importantly of all, they bring in fertility.

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Manure?

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Manure, pretty much 85% of what goes into a cow one end comes out

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the other, and goes onto the land, and that's a fantastic service.

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'And this is the cow's greatest talent,

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'they can take land and resources we can't use, like grass,

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'and turn it into valuable products that we CAN use.'

0:51:090:51:14

A lot of poor land you see round here, for example, is not

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arable at all, you couldn't use it for growing grain or crops.

0:51:170:51:20

This side of the United Kingdom, that's what grows best is grass,

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that's why we talk about our green and pleasant land.

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Ireland is the Emerald Isle cos the grass is just a fantastic crop,

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and the best way of using it is ruminants, sheep and cows.

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It's providing free food, environmentally free food

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so to speak.

0:51:410:51:42

So a kid of win/win situation?

0:51:420:51:44

Yeah, well, it's been winning

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and winning for the last 10,000 years, really.

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'The price we pay for cattle is the methane they produce,

0:51:490:51:52

'but Simon believes when raised in smaller numbers

0:51:520:51:55

'they can be an environmentally friendly choice.

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'It puts beef firmly back on our menu.'

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And it's not just cattle that can provide a source of

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so-called "free food". It's thought pigs were first domesticated

0:52:080:52:13

for their ability to eat our wasted food and turn it into pork.

0:52:130:52:18

In the UK today, we throw away 15 million tonnes of food every year,

0:52:210:52:26

which we could use to feed pigs.

0:52:260:52:29

However, it is a contentious issue, because if the swill is not adequately heat-treated,

0:52:310:52:36

it can transmit disease.

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'It is the very last thing this industry needed.

0:52:380:52:41

'Official warnings were put in place this morning,

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'but this area has been sealed off since Monday.'

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In 2001, the foot-and-mouth outbreak was traced to a farm

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where the pigs had been illegally fed untreated food waste.

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It led to the destruction of nearly ten million animals,

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and the practice was made illegal throughout Europe.

0:53:030:53:07

'But environmentalists like Simon think

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'we will have to return to feeding pigs with waste if we are to

0:53:100:53:14

'produce enough eco-friendly food to feed the planet.'

0:53:140:53:18

So how can you eat meat but not wreck the planet?

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The best way to describe it is probably with a graph.

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It's very simple, this axis here is the environmental impact.

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This axis here, the amount of meat eaten.

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And it's a simple hockey stick graph.

0:53:380:53:42

Let's do that quite slowly, and then it steepens quite quickly.

0:53:420:53:47

Right.

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So the more meat and dairy you eat,

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the more environmental impact you make.

0:53:510:53:54

So there's a sort of crucial amount of meat somewhere

0:53:540:53:57

roughly around here where it seems to take off.

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It takes off, yes.

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Up to that point, you can actually eat meat

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but not have a major environmental impact.

0:54:040:54:06

Yes, because this is the point, really, where you start feeding grain

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to animals, where you start allocating land,

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for the dedicated purpose of producing meat.

0:54:130:54:16

And when you do that, you require not only more land

0:54:160:54:19

but you also require more water, more chemical fertilisers,

0:54:190:54:23

pesticides, fossil fuels, et cetera.

0:54:230:54:25

Whereas this part, what I call the default livestock

0:54:250:54:29

part of the graph...for the first part of the curve,

0:54:290:54:32

for quite a long way, there's very little environmental impact.

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Because the meat and dairy that you're consuming is, in a sense, free.

0:54:370:54:43

'It's very difficult to calculate how much meat

0:54:430:54:47

'we could produce without serious environmental impact.'

0:54:470:54:51

But economists have come up with some detailed estimates.

0:54:510:54:56

Globally, cattle and sheep grazing purely on grass could

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produce 40 million tonnes of meat a year.

0:55:000:55:03

Pigs and chickens,

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fed only on food waste could produce another 110 million tonnes.

0:55:040:55:09

And feeding animals the residues and by-products of other processes

0:55:090:55:13

could produce another 40 million tonnes.

0:55:130:55:17

In total, it's been suggested we could produce 190 million

0:55:170:55:22

tonnes of meat each year with a small environmental impact.

0:55:220:55:27

'That works out at just less than 40 kilos

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'for each person on the planet.'

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And where are we on this graph?

0:55:330:55:36

Well, we're somewhere up about here, with

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round about 80 kilos of meat consumption a year.

0:55:380:55:41

To get it down there, to having really very minimal

0:55:410:55:45

environmental impact, what sort of numbers are you talking about?

0:55:450:55:48

Very roughly a half, I mean, it's..

0:55:480:55:50

Just by boiling this graph, it would take you, yeah, about half.

0:55:500:55:54

Very, very roughly.

0:55:540:55:55

40 kilos, 40 kilos is still a lot of meat.

0:55:550:55:58

It's a little over 100 grams a day.

0:55:580:56:01

A bit over.

0:56:010:56:02

So it's a burger, it's a respectable amount of meat.

0:56:020:56:05

It's a respectable amount of meat, yes.

0:56:050:56:07

So, certainly on the basis of this argument, you can see

0:56:070:56:09

that you can be an ethical carnivore, you can be a carnivore

0:56:090:56:14

that doesn't impact the planet, but it's only true

0:56:140:56:18

-if we probably quite substantially cut our meat consumption.

-Yes. Yup.

0:56:180:56:23

Simon's vision of a sustainable future is idealistic

0:56:270:56:31

but it's not impossible.

0:56:310:56:33

However, for it to come about, two things have to happen,

0:56:330:56:36

we need to cut down the amount of meat we consume and we need

0:56:360:56:39

a revolution in the way that our livestock industry is organised.

0:56:390:56:43

And without huge pressure, I can't see either of those things happening.

0:56:430:56:49

So what should we do?

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I think the most obvious thing to do is to eat less meat,

0:56:510:56:55

and there are many alternatives.

0:56:550:56:57

What we need to be thinking about is moving away from seeing

0:56:570:57:01

animal protein as the centre of a meal

0:57:010:57:05

and exploring a plant-based substitute,

0:57:050:57:08

plant-based foods as well.

0:57:080:57:10

Me personally, I would choose to have a small amount of

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low-intensity extensive-grazing beef as a very rare treat

0:57:120:57:18

and the rest of the time either get by with chicken or no meat at all.

0:57:180:57:22

'So what meat should we be buying in our weekly shop

0:57:260:57:29

'if we want to be ethical, eco-friendly carnivores?'

0:57:290:57:34

Well, if we want to go on eating lots of meat

0:57:340:57:36

and the rest of the world wants to join in,

0:57:360:57:39

then the future is far more intensive farming, particularly

0:57:390:57:42

on those super-efficient indoor-reared chickens.

0:57:420:57:46

'It might come as an unpleasant surprise

0:57:470:57:49

'to the environmentally conscious, but intensive farming can be

0:57:490:57:53

'the best option when it comes to minimising greenhouse gas emissions.

0:57:530:57:57

'However if demand for meat rises as predicted,

0:57:570:58:00

'even those intensive methods may become completely unsustainable.

0:58:000:58:07

'The alternative is we're going to have to eat far less meat.

0:58:070:58:11

'It's impossible to give a completely accurate figure of how much we should eat,

0:58:110:58:15

'but if we were to cut our total meat consumption

0:58:150:58:18

'to 100 grams per day, about this much, it would

0:58:180:58:23

'come close to halving the amount of meat we need to produce.

0:58:230:58:26

If you do that, it's good for the planet

0:58:260:58:29

and also probably better for your health.

0:58:290:58:31

So the reality is you can have your steak and eat it,

0:58:310:58:35

just not very much.

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