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The Highlands of Scotland have witnessed many upheavals. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
But they've seen nothing | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
like what's happening in the glens north of Inverness. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
Here, one man is trying to realise a big idea. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
Paul Lister is trying to bring back | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
wild animals that were once common in Scotland. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Mammals such as moose, wolves and bears | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
that were wiped out centuries ago. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
His plans have produced howls of derision as well as enthusiastic support. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
Is he a nutcase or will he be hailed as a modern-day Monarch of the Glen? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:15 | |
There are huge obstacles to overcome, but one thing is sure - | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
Paul Lister is prepared to do whatever it takes to turn his patch of Scotland wild again. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:29 | |
The Highlands of Scotland look like the very essence of wildness - | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
primeval and untouched. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
But these solitary trees | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
are all that remain of a very different landscape. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
Centuries ago, these hills were cloaked | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
in forests of Caledonian pine, but they've been stripped bare. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
With the timber gone, sheep took over the hills. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
They grazed out many of the fragile native plants, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
turning a once diverse landscape into a soggy desert. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
Even the heather is nothing but a glorified weed. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
It's hard to make a living here. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Crofters have mostly gone, and the land is carved up | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
between a number of large estates, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
these days devoted to hunting, shooting and fishing. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
It may look wild, but in fact, this landscape is heavily managed | 0:02:55 | 0:03:01 | |
for the benefit of just three commercially prized animals - | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
salmon, grouse and red deer. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
People think Scotland, or the Highlands in particular, are a beautiful place, beautiful scenery, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:15 | |
and they're right, it does look great. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
But if you actually know something about the history, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
you'll realise just how much devastation has taken place | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
over the centuries. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
There is a tantalising hint of what Scotland looked like 300 years ago | 0:03:29 | 0:03:36 | |
in the remaining forests of northern and eastern Europe. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Here, it's also possible to glimpse the animals that once lived in the Highlands, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
creatures which either died out once the trees were cut down or were hunted out. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:54 | |
It's almost impossible to imagine moose in a glen, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
but long ago they would have been | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
as much a part of the Scottish uplands as brown bears. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Each animal, up to the top predator, would have played a vital role | 0:04:08 | 0:04:14 | |
in keeping the woodland balanced and healthy. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
It was on a visit to Eastern Europe | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
that businessman Paul Lister saw Scotland's potential. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
But it wasn't until 2003 that his fledgling idea could take off. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
Overnight, his fortunes changed, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
as he came into control of millions of pounds made by his father, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
the founder of the MFI flat-pack empire. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
Lister bought a 23,000-acre estate north of Inverness, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
where he set about challenging the centuries-old monopoly of land management. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
His base is the Alladale Lodge at the eastern end of his land. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
Like the surrounding sporting estates, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
there's grouse, thousands of red deer | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
and the rivers are rich in salmon. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
But along the two glens which stretch west from the lodge, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
there is very little else. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Paul wants to use his fortune to create a wilderness reserve, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
plant trees to join up the fragmented woodland | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
and populate the two glens with moose, lynx, bear and wolf, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
creatures that were once common here. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
He thinks people would pay to come and see this restoration process happen | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
and wants to prove that a rich and self-sustaining mix of native wildlife | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
can make more money and provide more jobs than hunting and fishing. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
The area I'm looking at here is one of our richest parts of the reserve, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
and it just needs to have back | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
the animals that were once living here hundreds of years ago | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
to really make the place come alive. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Trying to bring back Scotland's lost riches is not a new idea. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
For many decades, conservationists have discussed | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
re-wilding parts of the Highlands, and a recent European directive | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
encourages governments to do just this. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Scotland has successfully reintroduced birds such as red kite and the sea eagle, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
but plans to bring back mammals have foundered, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
either because there isn't enough continuous forest | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
to support these creatures, or because local people have objected. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
Although other European countries | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
have successfully re-introduced mammals such as beaver, Scotland is lagging behind. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:32 | |
Re-wilding has proved to be so complicated, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
it's not surprising many people look at Lister's ambitious plans | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
with a mixture of admiration and disbelief. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
Well, I started by thinking he was a nutcase. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
But...I have to admire him for having a go. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
I mean, the SAS motto. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
He's put his purse | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
where his mouth is and he is trying, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
and I admire that immensely. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Paul is a furniture salesman not an ecologist, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
so he's buying in the best advice. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
At Alladale, there is the potential | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
to do something radical, useful, important and well founded. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:33 | |
The thought that there would be an owner of a Highland estate | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
who is prepared to make the top priority of that estate | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
the biodiversity gain and all that flows from it - the revenue generation and so forth - | 0:08:41 | 0:08:48 | |
is quite wonderful, and we should rejoice in that. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Paul's impatient to get the project off the ground, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
so as well as world-class expertise, he's found what he believes is the perfect blueprint for Alladale. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
There's nothing unique about what I'm proposing at Alladale. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
There's nothing unique. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
It's literally a plagiarisation of a success story from South Africa. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:13 | |
Like the Highlands of Scotland, Shamwari Game Reserve was once overgrazed and impoverished land. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:41 | |
The driving force behind its restoration is businessman Adrian Gardiner. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:01 | |
10, 15 years ago, where we're driving now was farmland. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
This was all red soil, abused, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
overgrazed, degraded, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
absolutely ravaged. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
Over the years, successfully, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
we've created a whole ecosystem here, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
from a dung beetle to the elephant, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
so we've put back the rightful owners to this land. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
What's impressed Paul is that the animals have done all the hard work. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
To a large extent, we've let nature repair itself. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
If you put the right animals on this land, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
that helps repair it. That's nature. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
The similarities between what we're trying to do | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
are actually closer than you think. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
The right animals in their original setting | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
will go a long way to restoring the vegetation at Alladale, too. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
But at the start, they would have to be heavily managed. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Paul and his rangers will have to learn how to monitor, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
dart and move grazers to help the restoration process along. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
This is a very popular dart gun, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
so you'll most probably use this dart system at Alladale. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
-So, the dart is in there. -Oh, yes. -Quite simple. -Yeah, very. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
OK, if you get a nice view of the rhino... | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
The one at the back now. Back left. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Today, they are going to dart a young rhino so they can clip an identifying mark on her ear. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:29 | |
In a few years' time, Paul could be darting moose or bear at Alladale. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:35 | |
On the shoulder if you get... | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Perfect. And it went in. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
'Tony, they've just gone into the open now.' | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
So far so good. Very slick operation. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Yeah, they've gone into the middle of a nice big open area. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
They only have a short time before the rhino is conscious again. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
The vet makes a painless notch in her ear and then injects a stimulant to bring the rhino round. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:09 | |
No, it's fine. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Wow. He was up quick. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
In every healthy ecosystem, grazers are only part of the story. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
Without predators, the grazers would overpopulate the reserve and eat out the vegetation all over again. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:37 | |
Shamwari needs big cats | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
just as Alladale needs wolves, lynx and bear. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
People have a long-held mistrust of predators, so many locals | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
were outraged when Gardiner welcomed lions and hyenas back. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
My neighbours here were absolutely up in arms. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
I can remember going to a meeting where one of the neighbours stood up | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
and he said to me, "My grandfather shot the last brown hyena here." | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
I said, "Well, I'm going to bring it back." | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
To keep the neighbours happy and to protect his precious animals, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
Gardiner has built a fence around his 60,000 acres. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Paul will do the same at Alladale but, even so, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Gardiner thinks he will face a lot of resistance to his plans. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
His challenges are going to be more than ours were. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
We had a lot of neighbours who didn't want to accept what we were gonna do, and there were struggles. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:49 | |
But all struggles are worth fighting for. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
I really hope that I will see the bear and the wolf back. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Oh, you will, you will! | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
For sure! | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
Paul is convinced the Shamwari model will work in the Highlands. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
People say to me, "We're living in another part of the world." | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Yes, there are different parameters, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
but it's the same principle of taking over land | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
which has been ravaged by man and investing in it | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
and bringing back the species that belong there. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Paul is impatient to see wolves and bear on his reserve | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
but, like Shamwari, he needs to start with the basics. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
He has native grazers, but red deer are the very core of the problem. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
Scotland has way too many of them. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Even Scottish Natural Heritage agrees that native trees and plants | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
don't stand a chance while deer numbers remain so high. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
In any other setting, they'd be called a pest. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
With no native predators to control them, red deer numbers have increased steadily for decades. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:29 | |
Despite a threefold increase in culling since the 1970s, deer numbers are still on the rise. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:38 | |
In the interests of natural regeneration, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Alladale has halved its deer population over ten years. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
The process of lowering numbers goes on every year. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
Throughout the season, they cull the lesser-valued hinds. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
The challenge is to get close enough for a shot. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
I'm not some bloodthirsty killer, like. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
It's a job that we have to do and that's it, you know? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
Just get on with it. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Deer culling is something Innes and David have always had to do. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
But now they feel there's a goal at the end of it. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-It's quite a good plan, you know. -If we get the acreage, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
this thing can work and create a lot more employment, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
and it would be quite a unique concept, you know? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
We're watching the project develop, you know? We're making it happen. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
So bring it on. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Once the deer are under control, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
the 80,000 saplings which Paul has planted in the valley bottoms will have a chance of reaching maturity. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:53 | |
Paul already has some stands | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
of old-growth Caledonian pine on the reserve. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
But to provide food and cover for forest animals, he needs more. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
Pines need very specific growing conditions, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
so Paul has turned to a very specific animal. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
The arrival of a group of boar means his dream of regenerating | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
this patch of the Highlands has already begun. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Boars are walking rotavators. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
As they root around, they break up the blanket of heather and bracken, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
turn over the soil and create a perfect seedbed for pine kernels. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:43 | |
-Where's the big fellow? -Here he is. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
400 years ago, boar were common in Scotland. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
He is big, isn't he? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
This is the first time anyone has studied what their return would do to the landscape. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
Paul's estate manager, Hugh Fullerton-Smith, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
is the man in charge of the operation. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
When this opportunity arose, it kind of really intrigued me that somebody | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
could be trying to set up a genuine wilderness reserve in the UK. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:18 | |
It's quite powerful stuff, really, this whole re-wilding concept, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
and I think it's long overdue, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
from what I've seen in 12 months. It's perfect. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
And after a while, I think you suddenly realise | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
that you're quite privileged to be here. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
There's probably 100 years' work here. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
Paul knows re-wilding takes time. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
But he's also a businessman who needs results. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
He wants to fast-forward to the next animal on his wish list - | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
moose, or European elk, as they are officially known. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:15 | |
Unlike red deer, these eight-foot giants won't decimate the ground vegetation. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
They browse on willows and birch. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
They've been absent from Scotland for over 2,000 years. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
But Paul thinks that if he had some at Alladale, they would start drawing the public in. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
But shopping for them is harder than he thought. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
I've found moose, but the Swedish government | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
have banned the capture of wild moose, so we've had to go to parks. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:57 | |
But they're terribly expensive. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
I think with all the vet testing | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
and all the clearances to import them into Scotland, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
it will be about £17,000 for four animals. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
Paul decides to get on a plane and look for some himself. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
He wants young moose that will be able to grow up as wild as possible. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
At a moose breeder's, he tracks down two females who are about to give birth. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
Helga, Scottish visitors! | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Er, English visitor. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
English? Oh, sorry! | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
British visitor. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
They're amazing, aren't they? I've never been this close to a moose. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
Here comes the boss. She is called Landa. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
This one here? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
She even beats up the bull if she has to, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
she just presses down the head and then she knees them. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
-Can you get in there with them? -We will go in, everyone. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
-They are very, very tame. -We're gonna go in there? -Yes, of course. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
-This is the bigger bull. -They make horses look small. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
-Look at that! -There you go. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
There you go. You like that one, boy. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
I need two females and a male. Young ones. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
Well, let's have a contact and see what happens when their babies come. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
Paul calls Alladale with the good news. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
I think I'd better do a deal with him. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
Anyway, this might just be the niche. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
He's got a home for two of the babies, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
but not the other three or four. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Erm, and I suspect we just need three at the most. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Moose from Sweden would be a crowd puller. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
But Paul needs a mix of animals on the reserve. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Every animal has its part to play, and the more animals | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
we bring back to Alladale, the less we'll have to manage things, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
the less we'll have to go round planting trees and shooting deer | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
and we can let animals play their part. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Encouraging small animals back to Alladale is as important as the large ones. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:43 | |
Small birds and mammals help to distribute seeds | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
and would provide food for carnivores such as lynx and eagles. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
But the animal that's key to restoring the balance of the Highlands is the wolf. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
It's also the animal with the biggest reputation. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Even a huge national park like Yellowstone in the US | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
courted controversy when they brought this particular carnivore back. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Oh, it was very heated. I've had death threats, and I think people on the other side did too, probably. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
So it's a very emotional issue, very polarised. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
I've had hundreds of guys come up to me at meetings and tell me, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
"My dad, my grandad killed the last wolf in this valley, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
"this river system, this county, this state." They're very proud of that. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
And so, emotionally, it's a big deal out West, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
where the last wolves were killed only 70 or 80 years ago. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
For many people, that's not long enough to begin to love an animal | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
that was once so hated. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
Fear of wolves runs deep, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
but it's a fear that's unfounded. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Wolves have attacked people a few times in North America, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
but in the past 400 years, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
a wild wolf has never killed a person in North America. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Some day it might happen, but of all the things you have to worry about, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
wolves are probably just below ground squirrels. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Wolves are not a serious threat to people. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
What's more, wolves are useful. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
They've done a sterling job in Yellowstone of keeping destructive grazing animals in check, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:39 | |
so much so that top British scientists have studied | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
whether wolves could do the same for the spiralling number of Highland deer. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
The science we need to know is | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
what are the likely consequences if we take a species like a wolf | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
and reintroduce it into parts of Scotland? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Our predictions were that, eventually, after about 60 years, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
deer numbers would come down to probably somewhere between a quarter or a third on where they are now | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
and the wolf population would plateau in the Highlands | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
at somewhere between 300-500 wolves. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Eventually, predator and prey find a natural balance, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
and that can only be good for the whole landscape. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
Paul's ideas are based on sound science, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
but there haven't been wolves in Britain since the 1740s, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
and the mere mention of them creates panic. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
Paul thinks the media are just scaremongering. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
I was in Sweden the other week. There are 300 or 400 wolves. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
You don't read horror stories of people being eaten by wolves and bears in Europe. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
It's just nonsense, and it's about time people woke up to that fact. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
It's about time stories like Little Red Riding Hood were put into context | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
and people understood that wolves are absolutely terrified of man. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
Hill farmers still worry that their livestock might be at risk. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
To allay local concerns, Lister has always made it clear | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
that he intends to build a fence around his entire property. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
The scare stories are a constant frustration. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
It is a misrepresentation to imagine | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
that creating a large, fenced, park-like wilderness area | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
is the same thing as liberating, unfenced, these animals | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
into the freedom of the countryside. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
I've seen press coverage which has suggested a confusion | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
between those two, which is a pretty silly confusion. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
I mean, most people can understand "fence". | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
There's already a 500-acre enclosure for the boar, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
and there are plenty of safety measures to protect people from what's inside. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
We've got a dangerous wild animal licence now, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
so it's our job to protect the public from these animals | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
and to protect the animals from the public, as well! | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
But Hugh finds himself in a legal paradox. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
The laws protecting the public are at odds with the laws guaranteeing public access in Scotland. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:41 | |
Something really strange has happened | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
from the same office that issued the dangerous wild animals licence. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
The Highland Access Officer now insists that the public can have access to this enclosure. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:54 | |
So we've got a pretty strange thing going on here. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
Worryingly, the legal farce surrounding the pig pen | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
has huge implications for the whole project. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
The 50-mile fence which Paul had planned to build around Alladale, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
three metres high, specially designed and costing £2 million, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
would effectively seal off his estate from the rest of the Highlands. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
This has enraged people who fought for one of the very first Acts of the new Scottish Parliament - | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
an enforceable right to roam. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Ramblers and climbers aren't up in arms over the wolves. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
It's the fence. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
To keep these animals in place, if you like, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
he wants to build a fence, electrified, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
to create a massive enclosure | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
for these animals. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:53 | |
Now, one, that's not re-wilding, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
that's creating a zoo. And two, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
People like myself and many, many others have fought for generations | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
for this Land Reform Act, the legislation that we now have in Scotland. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
And for somebody to helicopter into an area like Alladale and say, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
"I'm gonna build this great big fence and to hell with your Land Reform Act, I don't care about your access, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
"I want to keep people out and my animals in." | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
That attitude I find morally repugnant. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
The fence has become very divisive. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
What Paul thought would be the solution | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
to people's fear of wild animals is becoming his biggest problem. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
There are some people who don't want to see any fences, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and there are other people who don't want a fence | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
because they don't want to be stopped walking on that side. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
I worry that because of the access legislation, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
it may be impossible | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
to do this experiment, and I would be very sad about that. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
I think that we need places for nature. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
I don't see why humans have to go everywhere. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
Even though Alladale is becoming embroiled in access issues, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
they still have to get on with managing the animals that are already penned up here. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
At least Hugh is making progress with the boar. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
Yesterday, we put radio tracking collars on seven of the boar. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
It's really going along nicely, so the pigs are going really well. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:43 | |
The radio collars will help Chris, who's in charge of the boar research, to work out | 0:31:43 | 0:31:49 | |
how much land each pig needs. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
This becomes particularly important when, in early summer, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
the enclosure welcomes new arrivals. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
These are the first animals to be born at Alladale and the first that will be brought up in the wild. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:12 | |
Now that the boar seem well established, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
it's time for Hugh to organise the next stage of the project. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
We're definitely going ahead with an import of elk on September 15th. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:33 | |
Just going to bring a bull and two young females. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
So that's pretty exciting. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
The re-wilding will happen here, no doubt about that. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
It's just the timing of us establishing this big reserve, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
because the complexities of doing it have probably escaped Paul a little. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
Paul has overlooked a fundamental issue. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
In the eyes of the law, a fence around his reserve | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
would change the nature of the Alladale project. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
We in Scottish Natural Heritage are remitted and interested in wildlife when it's in the wild. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
When you put a fence around an area, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
technically and legally, it's not then in the wild. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
I think the development at Alladale would need then to be covered by the zoo legislation. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
As I understand it, there would be issues about animal welfare, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
the survival and wellbeing of individual animals | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
as part of what happens inside this enclosed area. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
Alladale is huge but, if it's classed as a zoo, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
it would then be illegal to put a predator and its prey in the same enclosed space. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:52 | |
And THIS would completely undermine Paul's grand plan. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
If the Highlands are to be properly restored, he thinks it's vital for all the animals to live together. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:05 | |
It's the wolves that will keep the deer away from the valley bottoms, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
where the rivers are, where we need vegetation. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
We don't have that any more up here. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
It's important spawning grounds for the salmon. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
For the whole cycle of life, it's very important to have as many | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
of the creatures back that were once here. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
Although this is encouraged by EU legislation, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
national laws are threatening to stop his ambitious re-wilding scheme in its tracks. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:37 | |
There's a clash of legislation here. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
Article 22 of the EU Habitats Directive | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
encourages people to go through species and habitat restoration, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
That means that you have an ambition to get wolves and bear and lynx back into Scotland. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
The Zoo Act basically prevents that happening | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
by saying you cannot have predator and prey in the same enclosure, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
which basically flies in the face of this whole proposal. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
We have managed to surround ourselves in so much red tape | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
with regard to things that you can and cannot do. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
We're not a zoo, we're not a Longleat, we're not a private collection of animals. What are we? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:18 | |
Well, we are a wilderness reserve. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
We are like a nature reserve with a fence around it. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
So there isn't a box for us. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
Perhaps the only way forward is to challenge the legislation | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
and make his reserve much, much larger. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
No-one quite knows how big it should be, but everyone agrees that its current size is too limiting. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:48 | |
It's undoubtedly too small. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
The original thought was it needed 50,000 acres. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
If you had less than 50,000 acres, | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
then you would say that the... | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
deer are too much at a disadvantage | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
against fence lines for the wolves. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
So you can't do that. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
It has to be big. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
Even the trial boar enclosure may be too small. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
The pigs are doing a great job breaking up the bracken and heather, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
but the roots of one of the old-growth pine trees | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
have been damaged in the process, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
proof that there's still lots to learn | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
about even the basics of Highland restoration. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
In August, there's an unexpected setback. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
An outbreak of foot-and-mouth has been confirmed in England, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
and the Government, nervous of an epidemic, has put a blanket ban | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
on all movements of livestock. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
I'll call the Swedish Trades Council. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
Hugh has to cancel the import of the moose. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
They're going to really stick this one out, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
cos they got so much egg on their face last time letting any movements take place at all. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
They're absolutely paranoid. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
Good old foot-and-mouth has erupted again. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
Looks like the second case will be confirmed today. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
There's no real ban on importing stock, you just can't move them once they get to England. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
So we have to wait for the ban to be lifted before we can begin the import. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
Nothing like Alladale has been attempted in Britain before, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
so right from the start, Paul's had to come to terms with setbacks as well as missed opportunities. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:47 | |
At the very beginning, he had a chance to buy the next-door estate. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
That was more money, but my view is, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
if you're very wealthy and you buy an estate, you're not losing money. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
You can always sell it again sometime. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
If that other estate had been bought then, that would have made it easier. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
Paul now has to either wait for adjoining land to come on the market | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
or encourage his neighbours, who all run sporting estates, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
to come on board. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
A group of Highland estates with the same vision would create enough space for re-wilding. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
But there's a lot of persuading to do. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
I wouldn't want the fences. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
It's not possible without the fences. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
But I wouldn't want it here. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
But I admire him for having a go. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
My own opinion is it needs nearer a | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
quarter-million acres than 25,000, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
and then I think he might be getting somewhere. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
There are some problems, not least with the fencing... | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
..both in extremely bad weather in the winter, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
and also on the human side, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
with the antis and vandals cutting in. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
And then, if you have a lot of wolves or bears escape, well, erm, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
it would make life interesting! | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
You know, before he came along, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
there was just the traditional sporting estate and the crofters. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
To keep people in the Highlands, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
you've got to keep trying new things. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
As Jonny has said, good on you for having a go. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
It's creating a lot of jobs, and it might be right. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
Like a lot of people who have a vision, it's never simple, is it? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:41 | |
How many people have had ideas that have really required a lot of energy, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
effort, communication and support? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
What has to happen is that people have to start to appreciate | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
and believe and trust | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
in what we're trying to achieve. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
By September, with the moose importation still on hold, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Paul flies to the other side of the world | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
for a much-needed dose of inspiration and support. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
This is part of the biggest re-wilding project on the planet, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
100 times larger than Alladale. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Just like the Highlands, this part of Argentina was once in a mess, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:29 | |
former cattle ranches that were badly overgrazed. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
Paul has come to see Kris and Doug Tompkins, who have sunk their time, energy and considerable fortune | 0:40:34 | 0:40:41 | |
into allowing large areas within Argentina and Chile to regenerate. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
The first in a long line of native species they hope to reintroduce is the giant anteater. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:54 | |
We have a whole quarantine centre | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
that we've built on the other side of the wetlands. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
Now we have a male in this pen and a female in the other one. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
In three weeks' time, we're gonna let them go - | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
they'll be released as a pair. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
Our goal was to release seven this year. So it's slow going, you know? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
You'd love to release 50, but this is the first formal reintroduction | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
of a species in Argentina, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
so we wanted to act as a model | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
for this kind of work for the future. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
Like Paul, the Tompkins have had to learn by trial and error. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
They've had setbacks, but they've soldiered on, firm in the belief | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
that turning the land wild is the best thing to do. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
Look at this southern screamer with its chicks. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
I think people tend to protect those things they love | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
and the things that are meaningful to them, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
and that, in this case, is wildness for us. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
Doug and Kris made their money from the outdoor-clothing companies | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
Esprit, Patagonia and North Face. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
It allowed them to buy 2.2 million acres of degraded land. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
But once the re-wilding is complete, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
they intend to gift large areas of land back to the government so that they can be run as national parks. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:37 | |
If you're in conservation work, it's an endless job. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
It'll never be finished. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
You would like to live for ever and keep doing it cos it's fascinating | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
and very satisfying, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
especially restoration work, which we do a lot of, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
damaged landscapes. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
I think you have to get possessive. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Paul maybe is possessed by this too, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
that wildness is the thing to go for. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
It's inspirational, really, for me to come down here and meet the Tompkins. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
What they're doing is great. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
It's places like this that I get inspiration from. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
But the real challenge now is to get more neighbours and landowners | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
and acquire more land and ultimately get the large carnivores back. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
That's the real challenge - to get the land, and I'm hopeful. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
In the autumn, Paul hears rumours that a neighbouring estate of 37,000 acres is up for sale. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:44 | |
If he can secure a deal, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
he would have enough land to realise his dreams. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
There's more good news in November. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
The two young moose are finally on their way from Sweden. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
We planned to import these animals in September. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
Along came foot-and-mouth disease, which put a spanner in the works, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
followed hot on the heels by bluetongue. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
That meant that we couldn't come into the port that we chose, near Grimsby, and so we've been waiting | 0:44:13 | 0:44:19 | |
for them to remove the restrictions, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
which they haven't done on the bluetongue. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
So we managed to solve everything by chartering a plane in Inverness, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
and we can fly direct to Umea | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
and straight back to Inverness, which is just going to be amazing. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
Beautiful, aren't they? | 0:45:12 | 0:45:13 | |
Moose have been absent from the Highlands for over 2,000 years. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:27 | |
But these two appear to fit right back in. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
Every animal plays a part, and it's just like a giant jigsaw puzzle. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:40 | |
Having two elk back, it's just another piece back in the jigsaw. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:46 | |
For the time being, they're in an enclosure but, eventually, they'll have the run of the reserve. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:55 | |
It's taken four years and millions of pounds | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
just to get boar and moose back onto his land. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
Many have criticised Paul's approach, but he's the only person | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
bold enough to take on the problems, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
the doubters and the red tape. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
And despite all the odds, he remains determined to create | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
the first wilderness reserve in Britain. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Maybe it takes a maverick to move the boundaries | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
and wake people up to the urgency and importance of re-wilding. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
I believe we should encourage the likes of Paul Lister. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
What he's trying to do is ambitious. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
I don't know whether it will succeed, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
but I think it contributes substantially to the debate. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
So if people are trying to re-wild areas within an enclosed area | 0:46:57 | 0:47:02 | |
and we collect scientific information about the way the ecosystem changes, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
that's a very valuable contribution to this debate about the use of our countryside | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
and about ways in which we can help conserve some of these species. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
However, there are many people who still think Paul is misguided. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:25 | |
Paul has seen what's happened in Africa. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
He's thought this could happen in Scotland. I would say it can't. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
Although I fully understand the view that says this simply can't happen, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:42 | |
it's too big an ask, I don't believe it. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
There's always going to be people out there that go, "This isn't gonna work. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
"He's a crackpot." | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
But as long as the majority of people can see what we're trying to achieve, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:02 | |
then it will happen. Totally, it will happen. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 |