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programmes which start with a tango dance! So, what could it be? Only

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one show does this and that is Springwatch Unsprung!

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Now, there is method in our madness. Is there?

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There is. That tango dance, that lady is a professor of psychology

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from Cambridge, and she is here to answer one of your questions. We'll

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come back to that later on. But what's Unsprung all about? It is a

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show where we try to answer your questions and record your

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observations. You can get in contact with us at any moment, because

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level-headed Jo - can we see her? You can contact her any time you

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like. If she has a really exciting question from you she is going to

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ring the bell and we have to listen to what she has to say. What do you

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think of my waistcoast? Very nice for a tango. It is a bit loud and

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sparkly. Let us start immediately with a quiz. We have a number of

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songs in this quiz. It is not a sound quiz. I'm not going to tell

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you how many but every song title has an animal in its title, so

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That is really hard! We thought we made them too easy, but that is

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quite tough isn't it? Did anyone get any of them? It sounds like someone

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retuning a radio. We'll do it once How many did you get? I got a few.I

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had two I reckon. One. Good luck. It is on the web, so if you want the

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listen to it again, you can listen on the web - bbc.co.uk/springwatch.

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The glorious Lynne Hardman. She's excelled herself with our

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Springwatch tea cosy. That is fabulous. An extraordinary song

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thrush. It is a magpie, and that is not entirely unintentional, because

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we have been sent a film from Sue Mayhew from near Southampton. Sue

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got in contact with us because over the last couple of years she's

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noticed something absolutely We have given them names. We have

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Jeremy the jackdaw, Madge the magpie. We spend most of our day

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looking out the window going, "There goes Jeremy... Or Madge." What we

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have noticed is that Jeremy the jackdaw is actually feeding Madge,

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jackdaw is actually feeding Madge, as if she were a chick in the nest.

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Last year I didn't see much of them. This year, however, they are

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building a nest, but we are not quite sure where and they keep

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putting sticks in the beech tree and taking sticks out. I would like to

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think that they were a couple, but all the times this going on there is

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also this other adult magpie. Sat in the tree, not far away. He is call

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called man Friday. I think Madge rather likes Manfried but I'm not

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sure Jeremy does. He just enjoys himself. He is a sort of cocky young

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man really, a cocky young bird, because he sits there and he puffs

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out his chest and I'm sure Madge enjoys it. Jeremy is not so

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flamboyant. He is quite happy to feed Madge and to help build the

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nest. He obviously likes Madge quite a lot, but they do all get on

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together. If you had three birds of the same species together, it would

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be unusual, but to actually have two magpies and one jackdaw, it really

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is strange. I would really like to know more information about this, so

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I'm give giving Unsprung a little challenge: Please find out as much

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as you possibly can and find out whether anybody else has seen

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anything as strange as this. Absolutely bizarre. Magpies and

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jackdaws making a nest together and feeding each other. Of course. We

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have with us Professor Nicky Clayton.

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APPLAUSE Please come round.

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Nicky and Clive, the tango-dancing academics. Nicky, you are a

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professor of comparative cognition, have I got that right, in the

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department of psychology at Cambridge University. You've seen

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that film of the magpie and the jackdaw together. What do you make

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of it? We are quite fascinated by the clip. We've looked at ate

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carefully and we are interested in it. In fact it is very much, it has

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a lot to do with the work that we do which we called the captured

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thought. The interesting thing about that clip is that its courtship

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feeding. Courtship feeding?Yes. That's right, and it's the boy,

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Jeremy, that's feeding the girl, Madge. In our laboratory in

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Cambridge we've done quite a lot of research on this courtship feeding

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or food sharing. What we've discovered in Eurasian Jays males

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know what their females want. Even if it is something quite different

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from what they want themselves, they know what to give the females.

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the interesting thing here is these birds are different species. Yes,

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that's bizarre. So there is a jack you can -- a jackdaw and a magpie

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working together. We wonder whether the jackdaw thinks it is a magpie.

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Why does it think it is a magpie? That's an interesting question, but

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we do know of cases where eggs from the wrong species have ended up in

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the wrong nest. I've seen it before with bluetits ending up in great tit

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nets and vice versa and then they get confused about their identity.

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So there is just a chance it might have hatched out in a magpie's nest

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and thinks it is a magpie? Yes, but there is another thing that goes on

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with jackdaws in particular. Because they are cavity nesters, they love

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nest boxes but also tree holes had, in order to defend one of those nest

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sites it takes two. One on its own doesn't stand a chance. It is

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difficult enough with two, as other jackdaws come in and create havoc.

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But you need two, so if you are a jackdaw on your own, better to pair

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with the wrong species than not pair at all. Brilliant. And they were

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good at synchronicity. That's interesting interesting. What has

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tango dancing got to do with crows, please? Not a lot as a direct link,

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but what we notice is that many birds dance. They do beautiful

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synchronous movements. In fact the rooks in our colony in Cambridge are

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fantastically synchronous in the way they move. We can see that. Here

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they are. Look at that! So they are almost behaving like your tango

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dance. They are having a little dance. We would say it is a

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conversation without words. Amazing stuff. An avian tango. Which is what

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we do. Professor, thank you very much indeed. Thank you.

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APPLAUSE Do you concur, Chris? I did think

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about the egg in the other nest, the mistaken identity. The thing about

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these birds is they don't necessarily have self awareness,

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knowing what you are and what another thing is restricted to...

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Well, some birds show this. Pigeons know which plumage they have, but

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normally it is animals with much higher cognition that have self

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awareness. But the only species to pass the mark test in birds is

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magpies. That's where you put a mark on them and they identify the mark

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on themselves and know that it is on them. A sense of self. We shall move

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on now to frogs. Thank you very much indeed.

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APPLAUSE Chris. Hello,From the sublime to

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the ridiculous. Hold on... Sorry, I thought I heard a helicopter. It was

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mistaken. Grace asks why do flogs have slimy smooth skin and toads

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have bumpy skin? They growth through it. They exchange oxygen through

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their skin. Frogs have a greater capacity to do this than toads, and

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they will do it in the water, whereas toads do it on the land and

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don't have that capacity to breathe through their skin. Breathing

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implies they use their lungs but it is the ability to absorb oxygen

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through their skin. And they are toxic aren't they? They have grand

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behind their head. They have dry, watery skin, whereas -- warty skin.

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And there's our toad. The latest research says the common toad may

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sense chemical changes in ground water when an earthquake is about to

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strike. This is latest research from 2012. We had an earthquake, did

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anyone feel it last night? No!But if you had been a toad you would

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have known all about it and gone. What benefit would it be for toads

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to know there are earthquakes coming? To get out of the water,

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mate and get to higher ground. a toad! I will pass you the paper

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later. Let us bring in a beautiful little animal to be with us. Paul

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earnings bring him in. -- Pauline, bring him in. I'm so desperate to

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bottle feed a baby on Springwatch. This is Pauline Kidner from Secret

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World. I don't think I have ever seen you when you haven't had an

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animal to bottle feed. How old is this one? It is only about a week

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old. And it is a little bit nervous. What's its story? He was just found

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following people in a village actually. He was brought to us,

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because he lost his mum. That's what they do, they follow mum around, so

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he follows me around. Seeing as he is only about a week old... Come

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here, you. That's a good boy. too much light Pauline? I think it

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is just the excitement of everything being on. Let him go.That's better.

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How much bottle feeding do you have to do at the moment? It is only four

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time as day. Not too bad then.No. I'm over here! This is a fallow

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deer? That's right.And that's a good thing to rescue a fallow deer

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fawn, but you shouldn't be other deer should you? No, we have a roe

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deer and it should never have been picked up. People don't realise it

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is quite natural for them. When he is tired he goes into the long

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grass. It is natural for them to be on their own. It is difficult

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because a lot of people don't know the difference at this age. We can

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show the difference. It is very important. What's this? This is a

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much bigger red, with a shorter tail, with a calf. The youngster is

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called a calf. That's your fallow and the fallow is the only one

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that's called a fawn. When you come to a roe it is known as a kid. They

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are all different. Let's clarify, how do people tell the difference?

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Red has a short, triangular tail. That's the easiest way, as they are

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all red with dots when they are tiny. The fallow has a tail which it

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swishes, and the, are oe has a tiny tail but a powder puff when it is

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running. What will happen to this little chap? It will go with our

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roe. Although they are the same age, it is half the size. One of the

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things we've been asking a lot on Springwatch is about the late

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spring. How has that affected you as a rescue centre? It has affect us a

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lot. Our casualties in April were 50% down. Our badgers and foxes have

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been late. We've never had a winter where people are -- where animals

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with coming in starving there. Has been no insects for emerging animals

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and no voles. You say it has been down 50%? Down 50%.Does that mean

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there's less animals around? I think because it has been so bitterly cold

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that orphans have not survived, because it has been so cold. What

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was noticeable is most of the things that have come into us... Come over

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here! Do you want the milk?There's lots of legs isn't there?

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LAUGHTER No, I think it is the fact that it has been very cold when they

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emerged and they lost mum and there haven't been people out walking. It

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has been very noticeable. Let's try and see, it has been very noticeable

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that most of the birds that have come into us have been brought in by

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farmers. That shows you that he isn't worried about being here.

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Pauline, thank you very much indeed. We are going to move on to something

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else that you've brought in for us. If we leave him where he is...

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shall unravel this. Hello gorgeous. Look at that. This is... Ow! They

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have had a really, really rough time. I find it amazing that

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although they are in such decline, every year all the rescue centres

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get more and more being brought in during the winter. It is almost as

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if they don't go into the autumn ready to get through the winter.

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Well, for Autumnwatch I made a little film about hedgehogs with

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Duncan Richardson. You are prickly! I think Duncan is on the line. Can

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you hear me? Yes, I can, hello Martin. Hi, I've got a hedgehog on

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my lap as I'm talking to you. to hear. I know you were following

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17 hedgehogs in your garden in Newport. How many of them have

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turned up this spring? In the end the it turned out to be a total of

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28 hedgehogs in the end. Gosh!Yes, it grew rapidly after I did my

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census. So far returning we've had 15 different hedge hogs. What

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percentage do you think? Are they down this year? They do seem to be

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down. Most of the regulars that we have have returned. All the ones

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that we saw on Autumnwatch have returned and made it through the

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winter, but they've been very late coming out. I think a lot of them

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have not made it through hibernation. We are probably about a

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month behind in hedgehog numbers so far. OK. I know that you looked

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after seven hogs in your house, little hoglets, that were

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underweight. Are you able to... How have they fed? Are you returning

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them to the wild now? Yes, they've all gone back to the wild. Lovely.I

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have had to, the unlike last year, where they were being released in

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March, I've had to wait until middle to end of April before the weather

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conditions have been OK to let them go again. There's a lack of natural

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food out there. They are struggling to find, as I mentioned just now,

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all the right insects and stuff. They don't seem to be around.

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the thought of you with your seven little hoglets. Thank you so much

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for looking after them and getting them back to the wild. It is a

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pleasure. Right, if you want to know how to help hedge hogs, Duncan has a

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website that gives you lots of advice on how to modify your garden

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for these creatures and there is advice on our website -

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bbc.co.uk/springwatch. There's lots of advice there, links

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on how to help these hedge hogs. I'm going to put this one back. We've

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got a studio full of rather beautiful animals.

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A quick reminder of that incredibly difficult quiz.

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No-one's getting all of them right. One person has got up to nine right.

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People are get getting Back To Black and Albatross, but it is tricky.

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Pauline, are you all right for her to go now? Am. Thank you.Goodbye,

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gorgeous. APPLAUSE

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It is always a joy when Pauline comes up, especially as all her

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animal animals are returned to the wild. You may have heard strange

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sounds, car alarms going off, things like this.

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That's a little bit like an ambulance. That came in from Tim in

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Bristol. It keeps him awake most of the time. This is from Charlie

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Kelly. Not bad is it? That's pretty good.

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Incredibly, Tim Bolt's was a blackbird. That was a star laying.

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They are mimicking fantastically well. Chris, why do some of our

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garden birds mimic? Stashlgs are -- starlings are particularly good

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mimics. There was a story of one mimicking a referee and was stop

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stopping football matches. If only with had some of those in certain

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England games we might have done better! Many birds mimic because

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they want two things. Firstly, they can make it seem to other males that

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there are more birds present in their territory. That's the first

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thing. Territory is crowded. The other thing is that, to many

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females, it is more attractive if your male has a greater repertoire

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of songs. Some birds in the UK don't learn their songs until after

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they've migrated back to Africa. When they come back here in the

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springtime their mimicry includes African bird song. It can be

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confusing if you are out in the reeds and you hear African bird

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songs being performed by a marsh warbler that's learned them after

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its migration. The more songs, the fit ter you are. Chris, you are

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notorious - that isn't the right word - more analysis of people 's

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photographs are sometimes overly created. You've chosen some that you

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quite like? I have. These are fine photographs but these aren't the

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ones that I chose. OK, here we go. This is a photograph which I think

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is technically excellent. What I liked about it was the rather

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artificial blue look of the water which mirrors electric blue of the

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kingfisher. This high -speed photograph has all the spume, which

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is attractive. This is an impressive feat of photography. Who sent it in?

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Richard Rogers. I thought it was a famous architect? No, it was Richard

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Schofield. This is the portrait. This is a simple photograph to take,

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because it is basically just a close-up portrait of a hornet, but

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it is a striking insect. By using shallow departmenth of field we can

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concentrate on the head of the animal. It is extremely beautiful if

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not a little menacing. Thank you Richard. Quite a good photo but

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stick to the architecture. This is from Jam mrbgs mo under underscore

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S. This is a Peregrine falcon food pass. Two birds are passing food in

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the centre and splitting up again here. This is a multiple exposure, a

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series of shots stitched together to show this food pass. That's

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particularly good. Jammo underscore S. I have to resolve the quiz.A

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helicopter? Has someone got them all right? No, I'm afraid not. Sorry.

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No-one's beat opinion nine. That was Andy Goldsmith. What were the nine?

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Goodness! Now you're asking me. In My Kitchen, Bat Out Of Hell, The

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Buzzard Song, Shark In The Water, Albatross, Fox On The Run, Pigeons,

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Batman, Eagle, His Eyes On The really tough. That's the hardest I

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think that we've ever done. Just quickly, a lot of people are very

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worried about the swallows and the martens turning up. This is from Rob

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Guest. Normally at this time of year we have hundreds of house martens,

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but I've seen so few of them. What's happened, Chris? There is a graph

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somewhere. We spoke to our good friends and they provided us with

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this information. What it shows, the red line is the typical arrival date

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and numbers of each of these species. Swallows at the top. The

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blue line is this year, so our swallows arrived later but they

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rapidly got up to the typical numbers, that we had last year. The

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house marten a different case. Arrived later but it doesn't make it

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up to here yet. So there are still less house martins here than

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international os and there is a second secondary peak in migration

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in July. Birds will arrive in July and then nest. They can then get a

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brood off in time to get back to Africa. So there is still hope.

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Michaela? Someone wrote in and said, 2011, you do remember on Springwatch

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the star of the show was a baby barn owl called Bob, do you remember it?

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Barn owl Bob, yes. It brought together people on chat boortsdz

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which supported him. After Springwatch finished Bob got his own

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Facebook page and the friendship continued. We all met for a Bob fest

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in Wales, at Ynis-hir. Two members of that club started to get rather

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close. This is where you play the music. And they eventually fell in

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lurve. They got engaged and get what happened in May? They had a baby!

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And guess what they name named him... Bob. Luke! Congratulations,

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that's the first real baby. Luke Morris So why didn't they call him

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Bob? ! One quick... Can you hear a helicopter? They are coming aren't

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they? Itchy and Scratchy, it is their birthday. Itchy and Scratchy

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are his poodles, if you didn't know. We should have tried to get them in

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but shall we sing happy birthday to Itchy and Scratchy? No. Thank you

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very much indeed. We are slowly coming to the end of the programme.

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We would like to get all of your questions, more questions, we need

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more questions to try to answer. And more objects. We haven't got any

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