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The car is registered to a Greta Pritchard, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:05 | |
a primary school teacher at Plas Y Dderwen School | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
in the village of Glanrhyd. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
That is not Greta. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
That is not my daughter. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
One dead, one missing. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
I didn't kill this girl | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
and I don't know... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
where Greta is. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
'When I saw Kasia's body,' | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
I panicked. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Some place. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:27 | |
The owner died of a broken heart. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:28 | |
It's been empty ever since. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Never know what goes on in people's heads. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
Were you and Greta close? Not like her and Rhian. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Do you speak English? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
What have you got on Prosser that keeps him so close to you? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
Stay away from me. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:47 | |
RECORDING: 'Why did you run?' | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
'I was frightened.' | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Was Kasia your friend? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Best friends... | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
since when we were little. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
Did you come to the UK together? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
No. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
Kasia came first... | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
six months ago. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
I have only been here for three weeks. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
DOOR OPENING | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
DOOR CLOSING | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
Bronka. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:40 | |
DCI Mathias. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:44 | |
There's no need to be afraid. I thought you were going to hurt me. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
I saw you at the hotel and at Greta's house. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
I thought you had taken my friend. It's OK, Bronka, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
I'm a police officer. She didn't come home. I didn't know where she was. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
Bronka, when did you last see Kasia? | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
PANTING | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
Monday. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
Greta told her to come to the flat... | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
..to collect her stuff. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
They were friends? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Yes. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
Sometimes, Greta and Kasia have a drink. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Sometimes, Kasia stays the night there. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
Greta was teaching her English. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
So, why did Greta ask Kasia to collect her stuff? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
There was an argument. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
What about? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
We need to know, Bronka. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
There was a row... | 0:02:50 | 0:02:51 | |
..about Greta's father. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
Was Kasia sleeping with him? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Yes. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
For money? No! | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
It wasn't like that. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
Kasia cared about Greta's father. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
She liked him very much. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
Why did Greta's father give Kasia money? | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
It was... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
..for Kasia's daughter... | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
..in Poland. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
To help pay for her to come here. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Kasia loved her daughter very much. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
She missed her. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
The money was a gift. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Can you think of anyone | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
that would want to hurt Kasia? | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
A friend? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
A colleague? Someone she talked about? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
We were in a cafe with Greta... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
..there was a man. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
He was shouting. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
When? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
Last week... | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
on the front. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:15 | |
He was angry. Greta was upset. Him? Was it him? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
No. Are you sure? No, it is not him. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
No! It's him! | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
'That's him.' | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
This is him. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
I knew as soon as I'd done it, I'd regret it. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
But I had to tell her. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
Greta wasn't pulling her weight in school, while Rhian was doing | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
everything for her. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
And with Rhian expecting her first baby, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
I just didn't think it was fair. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Rhian taking the strain while Greta was out every night | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
drowning her sorrows. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
And what did you tell her? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
That she had to stop drinking. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
To think of other people. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
To pull herself together, stop feeling sorry for herself. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
To listen to those with her best interests at heart. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
Like you? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
In a way, yes. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
Why didn't you tell me? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
I didn't want to worry you, ba. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
You've got enough on your plate. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
I thought... | 0:05:44 | 0:05:45 | |
I thought I could get through to her. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
And did you? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
She wouldn't listen. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
Made a bit of a scene. I just left. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
It was embarrassing. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Greta was involved with someone online. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Does the name Ben Willis mean anything to you? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
No. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
Sorry. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
CLUNK | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
ELECTRICAL WHIRRING | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
WHIRRING STOPS | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
I hear you spoke to Iwan Thomas. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
That's right. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Did he have anything interesting to say for himself? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
The man is in pain. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
He's lost everything. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
His life is in ruins. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
Some people can handle the pressure. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Others fall by the wayside. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
Well... | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
..we all have to carry our pack. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Iwan Thomas is a dangerous man. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
He's a drunk. He's not to be trusted. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
You should stay away from him. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
He is grieving, sir. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
He needs to let go of the past. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Don't let him drag you down, Tom. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
You have pulled yourself together, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
put the past behind you. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
That is the difference between you and him. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Don't forget that. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:20 | |
What was he doing there? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
Why was he at the site? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
I don't know. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
DOOR OPENING | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Greta Pritchard. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
Her mother's death sent her off the rails. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
She couldn't handle the grief. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
She was lonely, she found solace online. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Ben Willis. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
But it was too much, too soon, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
so she broke it off. And that's when she met Harry Jenkins. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
When the anonymous letters started, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
the silent phone calls, the hang-ups, Greta thought it was Harry | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
that was responsible, but it wasn't. It was this guy - Ben Willis. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
Somebody has got to know who he is. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
You're right, Mared. But who? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
'Ben Willis.' | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
Greta had a relationship with him online, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
for a number of months, before she cut contact. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Ben Willis. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
Wait a minute. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Now, then... | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
There he is. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Benjamin Willis. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
He was the groundsman on the estate. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Helped build the school after the Great War. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
He looked after the house and gardens all his life. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Can I keep this? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
Of course. Thanks. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Benjamin Willis devoted his life to the estate. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
He was obsessed by it. Arwyn Parry knows every inch of the estate. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
'He also knows the history. I think he has used the name' | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Ben Willis as an alias. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
I think he is our killer. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
'Get all units over to the school.' | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
Greta could still be alive. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
We also need to warn Rhian. She could be in danger. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
PANTING | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Rhian? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
Come on! | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
PHONE VIBRATES | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
KNOCKING | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
TRIES DOOR | 0:14:02 | 0:14:03 | |
MUFFLED THUDDING | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Rhian? | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
Are you OK? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
Where is he, Rhian? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
POLICE SIREN WAILS | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
Rhian! | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
Tom! | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
Arwyn? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
DOOR OPENING | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
Arwyn? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
Arwyn, I know you're here. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
FOOTSTEPS | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
FOOTSTEPS | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
DISTANT THUD | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
DOOR OPENING | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
RUNNING FOOTSTEPS | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Arwyn! | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
Arwyn. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
It's over. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
I know it was you that killed Kasia. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
Where's Greta?! | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
Arwyn!! | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
DISTANT WOMAN'S SHOUT: Here! | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
Greta. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:31 | |
DISTANT: Here! | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
Where are you? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
DISTANT: In here! | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
I'm over here! | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
Hello? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
Hello?! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:46 | |
Greta?! | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
I'm in the well! | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
Over here! | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
Greta! Please help me! Please! | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
Please help me! Please! | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Greta, it's going to be all right. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Please! It's going to be fine. I'm here to help you, OK? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
Sir! | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
Sir. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
COUGHING | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
Sir. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
Sir! | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
I wanted to help her. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
She seemed so alone. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
Lost. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
A few weeks after her mother died... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
..I found her in the classroom. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
It was late. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Everyone else had gone. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
She was crying. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:36 | |
I offered her a lift home. She wasn't fit to drive. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
We got to her house. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
It was raining. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
She didn't say a word. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
Just sat there in the car with me... | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
..as if she didn't want to leave. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
When she got out of the car... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I-I could still smell her. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
And Ben Willis? | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
He gave his life to that estate. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
It meant everything to him. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Being Ben... | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
..I could be anyone. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Go anywhere. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
But then, Greta just cut me off. I couldn't let that happen. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
And Gareth Rhys-Jones? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
You set him up. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
And then you destroyed him. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
He was getting too close to her. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
You didn't want her to have any friends? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
She didn't need any friends. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
All she needed was me. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Why kill Kasia? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:00 | |
She was in the wrong place at the wrong time. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
I... She turned up at Greta's house with flowers, found me, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
started screaming... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
And you strangled her. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
I had no choice!! | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
What about your wife, Arwyn? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
What about your baby? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
I-I...love Rhian. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
But... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
I thought... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
I thought I could have it all. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
WEEPING | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
FOOTSTEPS | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
Are you OK, sir? | 0:26:18 | 0:26:19 | |
Yeah, I will be. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
And you? Yes, sir. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Thank you, Lloyd. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 |