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You must go slowly at first, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and gradually, you can increase the speed. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
You need to keep going until it's, erm, stiff. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Voila. Firm to the touch, like this, is perfect. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Mmm. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
Mmm! | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
STIRRING CONTINUES | 0:00:26 | 0:00:27 | |
Tres bien. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
C'est chouette, Gerry. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
-Sorry? -I said it's very good. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Oh. Thank you. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
But you know, French food isn't just about cooking the ingredients in the right order. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
It's about a lot more than that. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Is it? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
Yes. It's about France itself. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
It's about the passion, the culture, the language. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
This you must remember. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Oh, right. I will. Yeah, thank you. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
She's right. You have to immerse yourself in the whole experience. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
How much French do you speak? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Va-va-voom. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
# It's all right It's OK | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
# It's all right I say, it's OK | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
# Listen to what I say | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
# It's all right Doing fine | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
# It's all right I say, it's OK | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
# We're getting to the end of the day. # | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Oh, thank you. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
The victim was male, probably between 25 to 30 years old. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
The body was found on farmland outside Waltham Forest | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
in February '96. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
-Guv'nor? -Erm, no, thanks. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
-They're delicious! -Go on! | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Oh, all right. Thank you. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
The autopsy showed marks on several bones, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
indicating that the possible cause of death was stabbing | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
and the body had been tied to a wooden cross, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
with the arms outstretched like that. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Like a crucifixion without the nails. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Was there a religious connection? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
They never found one but the body was so badly burnt they couldn't get a formal ID. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
HE COUGHS | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
What's up, too much sugar? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
No, very nice. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
-Did the original investigation come up with anything? -Barely out of the blocks. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
They did find one witness, though, who claimed to see some sort of flashing light, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
-probably somebody moving around with a torch. -What about Missing Persons? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
They checked against all reports and got nowhere. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
-The case was cold from day one. -Until now? | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Until now. Forensics have managed to retrieve a DNA profile | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
from the remains. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:49 | |
Do we have a name? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
No, but we have a close relative and she's on the police exclusion database. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
-She's one of us? -Not quite. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
She's a fingerprint analyst at the Greater London Forensic Service. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Her name's Anna King. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
-Here she is. -Thank you. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
-Hi, I'm Anna King. -Detective Superintendent Pullman from the Unsolved Crime And Open Case Squad. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
My colleague Jack Halford. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-I'm sorry, you'll have to remind me. Which case is this about? -It's not actually about one of your cases. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
-I don't understand. -Is there somewhere we could talk privately? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Um... Yeah. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
The DNA was matched to me? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Yeah, it was what was called a familial match. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
But then you'd know more about how that works than we do. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Erm, DNA's not my area of expertise. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
According to the information given to us, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
the victim was a close male relative of yours. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
I'm originally from Albania. I was adopted when I was seven. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Well, obviously it would be a member of your biological family. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
Your father, perhaps an uncle...? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
-A brother. -You have a brother? | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
He was the one who brought me to this country. His name's David. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
David Celaj. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
And what else can you tell us about him? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
I don't know much but my parents might be able to help. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
According to immigration records, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
David Celaj and his sister came to the UK in September 1992. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
They were granted political asylum. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Anna told us she was put up for adoption and never saw him again. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
And four years later, he was dead. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
OK, you and Jack check our system | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
and see if he was ever arrested during that time. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
We know he's not on the DNA database, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
but I suppose he could have been convicted of something before '95. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
-Hmm. Brian, you can come with me. -Where are we going? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
To see Anna King's adopted parents. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
It's snowing. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
So? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
It's lovely and warm in here! | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Rather them than me, in this bloody weather. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
-It's brass monkeys, isn't it? -Excuse me? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-We're looking for Alan and Rachel King. -Missy Lee. -Sorry? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
Missy Lee, it's the name of the boat they're on. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-It looks like they're third at the moment. -How long will they be? | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
They've got another beat after this one, a reach down to the second mark and then a run for home. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
I guess about 40 minutes. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
Oh, thanks. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
-Fancy a cup of tea? -Yeah. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
We lost it at the gybe mark. They went straight past while we were faffing with the spinnaker. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
-The pole was caught, I couldn't release it. -They went through like we weren't there! | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
-Mr and Mrs King? -Yes? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Detective Superintendent Pullman. This is my colleague Brian Lane. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
Are you sure it was Anna's brother? Are you sure it was? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
-We believe so, yes. -Did you know David at all? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
No, we never met him. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
We were given a little family history before the adoption, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
-but that's all. -What were you told? -That he was some kind of student activist, democracy protester. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:08 | |
He fled Albania with Anna and they were granted asylum. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
He was in no position to look after her, and apparently he was 21. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
He was still a boy himself. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
He put her up for adoption, and we were the lucky ones. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
That must have been a challenge, adopting a seven-year-old from a different country. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
She's been nothing but a joy to us both. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Oh, I'm sure but... | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
We weren't totally in the dark. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
We'd travelled in Eastern Europe a little. We'd even been to Albania. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
Interesting choice for a holiday! | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
It wasn't that. It was with a church group - Christ Under Communism - | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
handing out bibles, helping people to continue to worship. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-The point is, we knew what sort of place she'd come from. -And what sort of place was it? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
Chaos, really. The collapse of communism in the cities | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
and a countryside that hadn't seen any change for 100 years. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
It was like going back in time, horse and cart, that sort of thing. It was medieval. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
Has Anna ever been back? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
No, she never wanted to, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
and none of us have ever had any contact with her family. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Look, I'm sorry that we can't be of any more help. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
-OK, thank you. -Bye-bye. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
-Say hello to David Celaj. -It was taken in '95. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
Where did you get it? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
We found his name on the system, along with his ID photograph. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
-What? -It seems that working for the police ran in the family. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-What, he was a copper? -No, he was a freelance interpreter - he worked on several cases. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
The last of which was January '96. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Which has got to make you think. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-That's just a month before he was killed. -What was the case? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
The murder of a man called Justin Hayman, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
but the case collapsed before it got to court. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
The SIO was DCI Cranagh. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-Daniel Cranagh? -That's the one, yeah. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
Retired now, I've tracked him down. He works for a bank. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-Thanks for seeing us. -Oh, my pleasure. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Mr Cranagh, when you said you said you worked in a bank... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
You thought I'd be wearing a cheap uniform, sat at the front desk? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Something like that, yeah. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
People here like having an ex-copper in charge of the security. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
It's like having a Lord on the letterhead, you know. Please. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
So what can you tell us about the Justin Hayman case? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
It was the one that got away. You know how that is. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
You wake up wondering if you could have done something different. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
He was a businessman, shopkeeper, he had several convenience stores. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
He was attacked locking up one evening and never regained consciousness. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Was it a robbery? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
In a manner of speaking. As far as we could tell, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
there'd been several attacks on his premises during the previous few months. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
Windows broken, an attempt to set fire to one of the shops. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
-Sounds like a campaign. -That's because it was. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
A protection racket, you paid up, or you got hurt. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
And Hayman wouldn't pay? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
His wife told me he wasn't that kind of guy. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
He, er, he wouldn't be bullied whatever the consequences, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
and in this case the consequences were a man called Michael Luga. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
Yeah, tell us about him. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
He was a two-bit piece of muscle working for an Albanian gang, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
the ones running the racket. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
And this Michael Luga was always your prime suspect? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
A lot more than that - he was arrested and charged. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
We had a witness who saw the whole thing and identified him. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-This witness was Albanian too, huh? -That's right. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
A woman, I don't remember her name. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
She spoke some English but we wanted to get all the details right, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
so a couple of days later we called in an interpreter. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
Which was David Celaj. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
I wouldn't have remembered his name either, but yeah, he looks familiar. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
It was all academic in the end, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
because once we got them together, our witness had second thoughts. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-All of sudden she couldn't be certain about what she saw. -Someone got to her? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
I can't answer that question. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
You both know what witnesses are like. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
They can drop out at any stage for a hundred reasons. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Become unsure, uncertain... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
-But you think it's possible? -It's possible. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
But before you ask, I haven't got a shred of proof to back that up. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Yeah, that's right. Michael Luga, anything you can dig up. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
OK, hang on... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Brian's found an address for David Celaj. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Oh, good boy. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
-Whoa, wait a minute, I've got to find a pen. -There's one in here... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
Hang on, you're going to have to say that again. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
OK, go ahead. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Yeah. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
Great. Right, we'll see you later. Thanks, bye. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Apparently, he was renting a room in Hackney, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
and the landlady's still living there. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
I wonder if she remembers him. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
You're learning French? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Oh, no, not really. It's just my cookery teacher. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
She says I should immerse myself in everything French. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
-Oh, yeah, how's it going? -Merde. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Oh, I've been renting rooms out since my husband died. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
The truth is, I like the company more than I need the money. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
I don't like rattling around this great house on my own. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
It's nice to have someone else around. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
How long was David Celaj living here? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Um...almost two years, and he never gave me a single problem in all that time. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:36 | |
He even paid me for an extra month when he left. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
What about visitors? Did anyone come when he was staying here? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-Women, you mean? -Or men, Mrs Marks, if that was the case. Anyone at all? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
Well, I wouldn't have minded either way, but no. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
No, no-one ever came here. Well, that I knew about. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
I don't suppose he told you where he was going | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
-or left a forwarding address? -No, no, nothing like that. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
OK, Mrs Marks. Thank you for your help. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Um, he did leave a few things here. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
I think I kept them in case he came back. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-If you're interested... -Yes, please, thank you. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Well, I must still have them somewhere. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I'll make you a nice cup of tea. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
Yes, I'll find them. There we are, come through. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
There's nothing on Luga since the Hayman case in 1996. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
Not even a speeding ticket. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Are you coming up blank an' all? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
I wouldn't exactly say that. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
-These are just a few bits and pieces I found when I cleared out the room. -Ah. May I? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
Mmm. I didn't like to throw them out. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Would you want more tea? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
No, no, thank you. I'm fine. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
Do you remember anything else about the day he left? | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
I've got an envelope here. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
-Postmarked two days before he died. -Oh. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
-Well, he got that on the last morning. The last morning he was here. -How do you know? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
I remember him reading it. He was having his breakfast. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
Did he say who it was from? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
No, he didn't say anything about that. Nothing at all. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
Just got up, said he was leaving and gave me a cheque. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
He didn't even finish his eggs. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
This Luga seems to have his fingers in all sorts of pies. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
Reconditioned guns, counterfeit clothing, drugs, prostitution... | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
But nothing's ever been proved. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
Well, Albanian gangs are traditionally organised along family and clan lines. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
They take an oath of allegiance, and the members almost never talk about what goes on. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:44 | |
He seems more than capable of murder, though. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Oh, he is, capable of anything. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Yeah, but Luga walked free and David wasn't a witness, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
he was just an interpreter. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
-He had no motive to kill him. -At least no obvious one. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
What about the envelope? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
His landlady said that he received it on the last day she saw him. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
He didn't talk about the letter, but she said something distracted him. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
There was something in the letter that worried him. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
It's postmarked central London, but that doesn't tell us who sent it, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
but we can have the stamp tested for DNA. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
I'll get it picked up. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
No, drop it off. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
I don't want it getting stuck in the system. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Brian, you and I can go and talk to the witness in the Luga case. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Excuse me? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
We're looking for Maria Mullat. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
You can stop. I mean, you've found her. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Right. Detective Superintendent Pullman, this is Brian Lane. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
We'd like to ask a couple of questions. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
What about? I'm very busy... | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
It's all right, it won't take long. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
That won't be necessary. The boss would be me. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
I run an employment agency supplying workers to this farm | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
-and others in the area. -It's very impressive. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
I employ 42 people and I've built it from scratch. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
I had nothing when I arrived in this country. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
And when was that, exactly? | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
October 1995. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
A few months before Justin Hayman was killed. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-I suppose so, I don't really... -You do remember Justin Hayman? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
Of course, but it happened a long time ago, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
-it's hard to remember all the details. -Well, you're lucky. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
A lot of people who witness a murder can't get it out of their heads. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
I didn't know that's what it was. It was more just a... | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
A scuffle. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
Your English is excellent. But back then, you needed an interpreter. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
Now, his name was David Celaj. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
I suppose so. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
He was killed not long after the case collapsed, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
and we were wondering if the two events were somehow connected. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
I don't understand how. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Well, you changed your mind, Ms Mullat. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
You identified a suspect, and then you changed your mind. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
I just wasn't certain. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
It happened so quickly, I couldn't be sure. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Yet, apparently, you were certain when you first spoke to the police. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
And you identified Michael Luga from a line-up. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
I felt I had to pick someone. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
I felt under pressure. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Were you threatened? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
-I'm sorry? -I don't mean by the police. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
Yeah, did someone else threaten you? You know, tell you to change your story? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
-Of course not. -Well, it wouldn't be the first time it's happened. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
Well, it didn't happen to me. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
I just couldn't be sure, that's all. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
I just couldn't be sure it was the same man. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Maria, telephone for you. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
I have to deal with this. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
I'm sorry, I can't help you. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Can't or won't? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Hmm. Take your pick. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
You don't think you could rush this through for us, could you? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
-We'd be grateful. -Do you know how many people say that? -One or two, I imagine. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
I'll see what we can do. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
-Anna! -Oh, hello. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Anna King, this is a colleague of mine, Gerry Standing. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
-Whoa! Don't shoot. -It's not loaded, I'm checking it for prints. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
-Are you looking for me? -No, we were just dropping something off. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
-To do with my brother's death? -Er...yes, that's right. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
Can we have a word in my office? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
What have you found out? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
We're still just scratching the surface. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
We do know that he was an interpreter for the police, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
so it's possible his death might have had something to do with one of the cases he was involved in. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
That's not what I meant. I meant about him, about what he was like. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
We'd never really talked about David, you see. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
My parents never spoke about him, and I didn't feel comfortable asking. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
But now with all this, I'd like to try and find out more. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
It probably doesn't make much sense. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
It makes perfect sense. We all want to know where we come from. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
-So what was he like? -Well, we can't tell you much at the moment. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
I do have a photograph of him. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
-You OK? -Yep. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
-Can I keep this? -Of course. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
We'll let you know if we find anything...concrete, OK? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
She must be in pieces. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Not only did we remind her of a brother she'd almost forgotten, but we told her he'd been murdered. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
-Yeah, poor girl. -Why are we stopping? -Two minutes. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
I've got to get some oursinade. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Oursin...what? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Yeah, it's a... it's a paste of sea urchin. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
It's the perfect base for a decent bouillabaisse. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-Is it? -Yep! -Right. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
One minute, 30 seconds. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
THEY CHAT IN FRENCH | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Gerry! | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
-Bonjour! -What are you doing here? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Well, I just...I want...er... cherche la oursinade. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
Vous faites une bouillabaisse? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Oui, oui. Les fruits de mer. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
A policeman who cooks and now speaks some French. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-I should take you home and introduce you to my mother. -Ooh. -Bonjour. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
-Bonjour. -Ah, pardon. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Mon ami, Jack Halford. Genevieve. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
-Enchante, madame. -Mademoiselle. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-Pardonnez-moi. -C'est pas grave. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
THEY CONTINUE TO SPEAK IN FRENCH | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
-Very nice to meet you. -You too. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-Oh, just... -Ah! Un cadeau. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-Sorry? -Present. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-Oh. Merci. -See you next week, Gerry. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Absolument. SHE CHUCKLES | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
-Au revoir. -Au revoir. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
-Didn't know you spoke French. -I'm full of surprises, me. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
As are you, apparently. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
Of all the stalls in all the world... | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-Eh? -Never mind. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
-So what do you think? -What about? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
-Genevieve! -Absolutely charming. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Wants to take me home and meet her mum. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
Polite as well. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
-I think I might ask her out. -Why not? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
An attractive, stylish, sophisticated French woman, and you - | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
why on earth would that go wrong? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
Exactly. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
This is all the evidence from the Hayman case. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
If Mullat was got at, we need to find some indication of it in here. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
We're hardly likely to get it from Luga. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
Always the optimist, eh, Gerry? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
'How did Cranagh describe him?' | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
-A two-bit piece of muscle. -Well, he's certainly not that now. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
-Michael Luga. -Detective Superintendent Pullman. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
Jack Halford. We were just admiring your house. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
It's not usually this crowded - we're preparing for my daughter's wedding. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
Oh, then it'll be even more crowded. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
We're going to hire a river boat for the reception. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-Congratulations. -LUGA CHUCKLES | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
I disapprove of her choice, but...she doesn't listen to me. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
That must be a strange feeling for you. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
We're aware that people do listen to you, Mr Luga, particularly among the Albanian community. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
It's true that I have a certain standing. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
A reputation would be closer to the mark. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
For violence, extortion, that kind of thing. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Wherever you heard that, it has been misreported. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
I'm a legitimate businessman. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Then you won't mind answering a few questions. We'll start with David Celaj. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
I've never heard of him. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
What about Justin Hayman? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Surely you remember him, Mr Luga? You were arrested and charged with his murder. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
I was falsely accused. There was no evidence. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
There was not even a trial. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
And I'm busy, so if you'll excuse me... | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
We can do this here, Mr Luga, or we can do it in an interview room under caution, but we are going to do it. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:21 | |
I don't even know this man, Celaj. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
What's he got to do with me? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
He was an interpreter. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
And a couple of weeks after the case against you collapsed, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
his body was found tied to a cross in a forest. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
That mean anything to you? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Nothing at all. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
This is as close to the countryside as I ever get. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
The whole case rested on Mullat being a witness. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
Beyond that, it was all just supposition and theory. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
But we still don't know why she changed her mind. Come on. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Look, this is her witness statement, right? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Well, well, that's in Albanian, and this is the English translation. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
I can't see anything. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Maybe she was just unsure. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
You believe that? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
No, not really. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
But it's doing my head in. I need a break. Here. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
You have a look. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
Ah, bonjour, it's Gerry, Gerry Standing. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
Oui, je...je... cuirai la bouillabaisse. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
La mer, oui. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
Um... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Dinner avec moi... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
ce soir? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Oh, bien, bien. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Le dress? Um...nothing special. Casuelle? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Oh, my address? | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
HE LAUGHS My address, I beg your pardon. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
Yeah, er... | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
Here you go. DOG BARKS | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Hang on. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Scampi! Hello, where have you been? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
-Brian! -Oh, just a minute. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Right. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
-There you are. -What's this? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Our holiday. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
I thought we'd agreed cycling in Devon? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
You agreed to that. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
I thought we might go somewhere a little more exotic. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
-Thailand? -China. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
It's really fascinating. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
FRENCH MUSIC PLAYS | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
Mmm! | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
-Bon soir, je suis Felicite. -Sorry? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
La mere de Genevieve. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Um... Genevieve's mother. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
You must be Gerry. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Yes, yes, I'm Gerry. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
Er... Well...lovely to meet you. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
-Enchante. -Would you like to go up? The kitchen and the lounge are upstairs. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Ah, thank you. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Mmm, that smells delicious. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
Oh, good. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Oh, a rose. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
-Oh, merci. -It should be perfect. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
You are cooking bouillabaisse? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
Oui, oui. Bouillabaisse. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Les fruits de mer. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
HE CHUCKLES Mer. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-Morning, all. -Morning. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Nice cappuccino for the guv'nor. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
-What's got into you? -Black for Brian. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
-You had a win? -I'm saying nothing. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
Genevieve, perhaps? | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
-Who's Genevieve? -His cookery teacher. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Well, if you really want to know, it was...er... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
actually her mother. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
-Her mother? -Yeah, there was a bit of mix-up with the French word for "sea". | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
-Oh, a homonym. -She's not! | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
"Mere" in French means "mother". It also means "sea", as in fruits de mer. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
You got the wrong mer! | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
ALL CHUCKLE | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
Maybe that's what's going on here. A homonym. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
What? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
I'm having trouble with Mullat's retraction statement. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
It's in English and in Albanian, but there are bits that just don't add up. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
-In what way? -Well, like this word - | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
"ndihmoj". | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Now, it appears at the end of two different sentences | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
and Celaj translates it in the first instance as "shop", | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
and then, secondly, he reckons it means "break". | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
So it must be... | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
LAPTOP KEYS CLATTER | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
-..Neither. It says here it means "help". -Help? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Help. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
But "help" doesn't appear anywhere in the statement. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
So the translation's wrong? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
Well, it must be. Seems like they're having a different conversation from what's in here. "Help"? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:17 | |
Maybe Mullat told David she was being threatened by Luga. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
David didn't like it, decided to confront him. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
And this gives us our solid motive. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Well, you better go and have a word with her. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Mrs Mullat? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
What now? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
We have to talk. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
-I don't want to get involved in this. -It's too late for that, you're already involved. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
I don't have anything to say. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
It wasn't your memory that failed, it was your nerve. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
Now, nobody's blaming you for that, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
but we need to know exactly what happened. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
-It was made clear to me. -What was? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
That it would be better to forget what I saw. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
Or what? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
I didn't ask for details. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
I didn't have to. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
It was made very clear. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
Did you tell David that you were being threatened? | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
-No. -Look, this could be important, are you sure? | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
I'm absolutely positive. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
David Celaj was the one threatening me. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
He was inside the police station, he was working for us. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
And now it looks as though he was working for Luga as well. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
No wonder she was frightened. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
The man was a democracy campaigner, he was over here for a better life, and now suddenly he's a criminal? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
Maybe he was threatened as well, maybe he was forced into it. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
Yeah, and threatened to fight back and tell the police what had happened. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
-Pint? -Not half. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
Fresh air in our lungs. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Lactic acid in our legs. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
Lunches in country pubs. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
Or we could have three days in Beijing and a trip down the Yangtze. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
What, stuck on a boat? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Maybe take a sleeper. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
Oh! | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
The Great Wall, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
the Forbidden City... | 0:29:18 | 0:29:19 | |
..Tiananmen Square... | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
What will I eat? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
You like Chinese food. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
I like it delivered. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
And not for breakfast. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
"Experience the contrasts of China, from bustling cosmopolitan Shanghai | 0:29:31 | 0:29:38 | |
"to the vast rural areas where human scarecrows | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
"used to be employed to protect the crops..." | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
I could take some cereal, I suppose. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
And tins of beans. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
Although they'd be heavier. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
"Enjoy the Wild Goose Pagoda in Xian. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
"Spend a day visiting the Terracotta Army." | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
-What did you just say? -A day visiting the Terracotta Army. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
No, the bit before that, something about the scarecrows. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
We've been looking at David's body but we haven't been seeing it. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
-It's right there, Brian. -Exactly. Look. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Tied to a cross, on farmland, he was posed. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
Now, we've talked about religion, we've talked about crucifixion | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
but nobody's mentioned scarecrows. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
Scarecrows? | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Yes, look. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
In China, historically, the lowest in society had to do the most menial jobs, obviously. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
But the worst amongst those was the human scarecrow. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Human scarecrow? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
I reckon posing David like that could have been the ultimate insult. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
Like spitting on a corpse. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:45 | |
It's an interesting theory, Brian, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
but there's at least one rather big flaw in it. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
Like the fact that he wasn't Chinese. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
Oh, that doesn't matter. Well... yeah, it does, but... | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
it didn't just happen in China. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
This got me thinking so I looked it up. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Now it seems this was a tradition in India, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
in lots of other countries in south-east Asia | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
and in parts of Eastern Europe. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
Including Albania? | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
Including Albania and it's been going on for centuries. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
If that is the reason he was tied to the cross, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
it brings us straight back to Luga. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
So we're right back at the beginning. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
We need to look at everything about how that body was found | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
in order to prove Brian's theory. PHONE RINGS | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
You and your theories. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
It's a good theory. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
Mind you, it'd be a good job for you. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
Why? | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
You've got all the gear for it, haven't you? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
If I was in sackcloth I'd be twice the man you are. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
You'd frighten all the birds away! | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
Thank you. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:41 | |
Or alternatively find a completely different one. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
-What? -We've had a hit on the DNA from the stamp. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
The name is Keith Weston. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
Who the hell's Keith Weston? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Let me know when you find out. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
He's dead? | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
And a long time buried. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Weston died in April 2005 of natural causes. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
He was a petty criminal, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
in and out of jail for the best part of 30 years. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
Burglary, mostly, armed robbery when he was young, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
a couple of convictions for receiving. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
Any connection to David Celaj? | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
Nothing we know of. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
No connection with any gang, Albanian or otherwise. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
Come on, there must be something else. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
There is a widow. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
Oi, get down, Leon. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
I said get down, bloody get down! Right now, or I'll pull you down head-first. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
Mrs Weston? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:31 | |
-Who's asking? -I'll take that as a yes. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
Detective Superintendent Pullman, Gerry Standing. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
He's my grandson, I was only joking about head-first. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
-I'm sure you were. -We need to talk to you about Keith. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
He's been dead six years and you lot are still hassling him? | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
Just a couple of questions, won't take long. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
What are you staring at? | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
Whatever it is, I don't want the whole street knowing. You'd better come inside. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
What did you say his name was? | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
David, David Celaj. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
No. Never seen him before. I don't know everything Keith did. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
I didn't ask and he didn't tell me. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
The truth is I usually only found out when there was a knock | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
on the door but it worked better that way for both of us. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
He never talked about meeting a young Albanian bloke? | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
If he did, I don't remember it. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Although my memory's not what it was, to be honest. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
We just want a straight answer, Mrs Weston. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Straight? Whatever I say, you'll twist it to suit, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
make it fit what you already think. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
I promise you that won't happen | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
but I do need you to take another look at the photo. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
I don't recognise him, I never saw him with Keith. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
But Celaj's a very unusual name, you sure he never mentioned it? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
He never mentioned it to me, that's all I can tell you. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
If you're so sure this David bloke knew Keith, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
why don't you go and ask him? | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
We'd love to, only this "David bloke" is dead. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
-He was murdered in February '96. -And you think Keith...? | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
We have reason to believe Keith was in contact before he was killed, yeah. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
Contact? | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
What kind of contact? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
Well, to tell you the truth we don't really know. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
'96? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
That's right. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
February? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
That's what we said. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
(LAUGHS) | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
What's so funny? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Keith couldn't have had anything to do with it. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Not unless that bloke was killed in the Nightingale Ward. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
Keith was in hospital? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Being treated for colon cancer, it was the first time it was diagnosed. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
You don't have to believe me, you can go and check for yourselves. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
Tania Weston is telling the truth. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
Her husband was admitted to the Whittington Hospital, Archway, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
in December '95 and wasn't discharged until March '96. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
And according to this, he was in no fit state to go anywhere. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
-So he couldn't have killed David. -He could've sent the letter. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
Yeah, they do have post boxes in hospitals. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
Come on, we're clutching at straws here, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
there's nothing to suggest any connection | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
between David Celaj and Keith Weston. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
Except Weston's DNA on the stamp. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
Maybe it was a mistake, a mix-up somewhere along the line. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
It happens. Some sort of contamination at the lab. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
No, there's been no mistake. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
We know somebody who works at the lab. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
We appreciate you coming in. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Do you know who killed David? | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
No, not yet. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
Well, you must know something otherwise I wouldn't be here. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
What have you found out? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
We know that your father was convicted of drink-driving. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
It was a mistake, just one drink too many. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
He was banned for two years but that's not what's important here. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
It was that his DNA was taken when he was arrested. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
It's in the system, Anna, and you know that. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
And then you saw us dropping off the envelope. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
And you decided to interfere. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
Now, there has to be a reason why you would do that. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
You wouldn't have swapped those DNA samples | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
unless you thought that it was your father's DNA on that stamp. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
Why did you think that? | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
I recognised his handwriting on the envelope | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
and I thought he might be involved. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
David was at my house... I mean my parents' house, with my father. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
I was only ten at the time, it must have been just before he was killed. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
The door to my father's study was open, David didn't see me, he wasn't looking. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
They were arguing, I don't know what about | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
and my mother sent me upstairs, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
she shouted at me and she'd never done that before. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
When I came down again, he was gone. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
Did you ever see him again? | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
No, just that time. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
Just the once and my father never mentioned anything about it. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
I didn't even know it was to do with me until now. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
I'm sorry for what I did, I didn't think. I'm sorry. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:23 | |
Why Keith Weston, Anna? Why did you pick him? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
He's dead, I didn't want to cause any trouble. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
Unfortunately, that particular ship has sailed. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
Where's Anna? You said she was here. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
-Don't worry, she's fine. -Well, can I see her? | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
This isn't about Anna, it's about her brother, David. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Well, I told you, I never met him. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
In which case, perhaps you'd like to explain what he was doing at your house? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
You don't have to say anything, Mr King. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
That, of course, is your right. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
But you should know that we've been through | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
the official adoption records and guess what we found? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
Nothing, nothing at all. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Because there is nothing to find, is there, Mr King? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
There was no official adoption. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
David just handed Anna over, that was the deal, wasn't it? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Tell us what did happen, Mr King, from the top, please. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
We were in Albania, up in the north, in the province of Shkoder, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
almost on the border. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
And that was with the church group? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Yes, there were six or seven of us, just trying to help, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
trying to give them what they needed to worship in peace. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
And that's when you met David Celaj? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
He was desperate to get away, to get out of the country. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
And you were desperate for a child. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
It wasn't me... | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
it was Rachel. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
It had taken over her whole life, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
there were days when she couldn't get out of bed. It was eating her up. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
Why was David so desperate to get away? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
It was because of what's called a Gjakmarrje. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
A what? | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
A blood feud, a violent dispute between families. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
What was the feud about? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
I have no idea. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
It had going on for generations, tit-for-tat killings. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
As far as I could tell, no-one knew what had originally started it. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
Who was the other family? | 0:39:31 | 0:39:32 | |
I don't know, I don't know. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
Does the name Luga mean anything to you? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
No. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
Why, should it? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
Look, I told you I never knew who they were. I didn't want to know. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
We just wanted Anna and to be left alone. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
There was no reason for anyone to be suspicious. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
People understood she was a refugee. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
Everyone assumed that it was official. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Once we'd got her settled in | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
we just wanted to get on with our lives. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
But David was to have no contact with her | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
once we got them out of the country. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
That was part of the arrangement. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
And David broke that? | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
He turned up at the house out of the blue. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
-He was waiting for me when I got home from work. -What did he want? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
He said that they'd found him. He didn't say who and I never asked. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
He just said that they knew where he was. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
So he came to you for help? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
He wanted money. I gave him a few hundred pounds, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
but I didn't want him to come back so I wrote him a letter. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
I told him to stay away for Anna's sake. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
There is another possibility, of course, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
one that doesn't involve ancient family feuds | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
and David being found in this country. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Something a little closer to home. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
I didn't kill him! | 0:40:58 | 0:40:59 | |
Is that what you think? You think I killed him? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
He was settled, he was making a life for himself. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
-Maybe he wanted Anna back. -No! | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
The adoption was unofficial. You couldn't stop him taking her. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
You had to do something else. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
No. That's not what happened. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:12 | |
You had to get rid of him, make sure he never came back. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
I didn't. It wasn't like that. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
-You were desperate. -Desperate enough to kill? | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
I didn't do it! I didn't do anything to him! | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
We'll be in touch, Mr King. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
What? You believe me? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
Didn't say that. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
What about Anna? | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
What do I say to her? what do I tell my daughter? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
If you want my advice, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
I think it's about time you told her the truth. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
It'd be easier if I didn't, but I think I believe him. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
King might have been desperate enough to do something but he didn't have to. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
-Unless someone got to David first. -Somebody like Luga. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
We can't be certain of that, Jack. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
We know it must have been someone from Albania, someone who found him here. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
It fits in with the scarecrow theory. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
You know, these feuds aren't at all unusual. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
They go back generations, whole families at war. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
They've got a rule - whoever kills will be killed. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
Blood is avenged with blood. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
But why did he go to Alan King for help? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
Because King was the only person who knew the truth about why David left Albania. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
If he's had come to us then the story would have come out. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
He'd have been frightened that his asylum status would be revoked. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
So what do we do now, then? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
Well, we have to prove that Luga is part of this other family, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
so I'll put in a request upstairs and it'll go via Interpol on to the Albanian police force. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
That's going to take weeks. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
-At least. -More like months. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
It's not ideal, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
but short of someone getting on a plane, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
I don't know what else to do. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
I suppose she's right. We've just got to sit tight and be patient. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
This is really interesting - | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
goes back over 3,000 years, some of these rucks. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Yeah, they've got their own book of laws, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
called the... Where are you going? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Don't worry, I'm not getting on a plane. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
No, no, no! Wait for me. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
Hey, hang on. Hey. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
What's going on? It's not a funeral, is it? | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
-He said his daughter was getting married. -What, today? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
Well, I mean, we'd better come back then, if it's her wedding day. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
In that case he should be in a good mood. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
What, with us barging in? I wouldn't bet on it. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Come on. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:50 | |
-Where is everybody? -They're on the boat. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
Shall we? | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
-I'm really not sure about this. -No. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
We're trapped now. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
I've got those invitations somewhere. Did I give them to you? | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
No, you didn't. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
I distinctly remember not inviting any policemen, Mr Halford. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
Oh, you remember me? I'm flattered. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
These are my colleagues Mr Standing, Mr Lane. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
Unfortunately it isn't a pleasure, I'm going to ask you all to leave. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:52 | |
That might be a bit tricky. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
It can be arranged. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
Besides, you don't know what we want yet. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
Turning up at my daughter's wedding uninvited | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
is disrespectful to both of us. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
Well, there's no disrespect intended whatsoever, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
but we need a quick chat. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
It's an insult you being here. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
An insult, eh? | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
You mean, like posing a body to look like a scarecrow? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
That's an insult, isn't it? The lowest of the low? | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
-I don't know what you're talking about. -I think you do. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
You know the significance of how David Celaj was killed. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
Maybe because you killed him. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:24 | |
I had nothing to do with that man's death. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
We've only got your word for that. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
This conversation is over. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
Mr Luga, Mr Luga, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:34 | |
you don't want to ruin the beautiful bride's special day, do you? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:39 | |
Not to mention the new in-laws. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
And your legitimate friends. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:42 | |
Where is this David Celaj from? | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
Which part of Albania? | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
The province of Shkoder. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
HE SCOFFS | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
What difference does that make? | 0:46:02 | 0:46:03 | |
It's in the north, I come from the south. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
It makes all the difference in the world. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
Please, sit down. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:11 | |
I'm sure you can see why I didn't want to have this conversation over the phone. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
Absolutely, this is an extremely sensitive matter. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
Our reputation is critical to what we do. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
Yes, yeah, I understand that. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:27 | |
-There'll be an internal enquiry, of course. -Of course. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
And for our part, Anna will be suspended | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
pending the outcome of that investigation. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Well, as I said, I'll let you have all the evidence that we have. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
Thank you for your time... and your candour. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
My pleasure. I would appreciate being kept in the loop if that's all right. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
-Of course. -Thank you. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
What about criminal charges? | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
I'm afraid I can't confirm anything about that | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
until I've spoken to the CPS. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
The feuds are local, | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
usually between families in the same area or same village. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
That's why they last for generations, it's why they're so... | 0:47:16 | 0:47:21 | |
brutal. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
That's where you should look. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
If that's true, we'll still need someone | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
to provide us with the name of the other family. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
I hear that the authorities in Tirana are especially effective these days. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:36 | |
Yeah, but we haven't got that long. Look, why don't you do us a favour? | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
Make a phone call to whoever it is who could help us get that name? | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
Why would I do that? | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
We could always talk a little louder. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
I have no secrets from my friends. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
But you do have secrets. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
I am a legitimate businessman. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
I seriously doubt that, but I'm sure you're very careful nowadays. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
Always two steps removed, keeping your hands clean. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
But the question is, Mr Luga, were you always that careful? | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
We know you got away with one murder, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
what else did you have to do to get to the top? | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
If you really have gone straight, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:15 | |
then surely you don't want your past dug up, do you? | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
Could be very bad for business. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
Digging up the past is our specialty. We're very good at it. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
And if there's anything there, I promise you, we'll find it. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:32 | |
And if... I give you the name, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
will you leave me alone? | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
You'll never see us again. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
If it's the right one. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:46 | |
I'll make a call. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
Please have a drink while you're waiting. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Thank you. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
-Thank you very much. -Don't mind if I do. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
You're not authorised to make any kind of deal. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
We didn't make a deal. We just said we wouldn't look at things | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
we weren't going to look at anyway. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
We got the name, didn't we? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:08 | |
The Celajs were in a feud with a family named Dervishi. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
Assuming his information is correct. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
Let me make a quick call. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:14 | |
Look, there was no reason for him to lie, not about this. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
A man like him doesn't need a reason to lie, it comes naturally, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
especially when he's talking to people like us. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
Did you get anything on the name? | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
We're checking with immigration and passport control, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
so far nothing, no. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
Luga's getting some pictures for us from his contact. That might help. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
Anna King's turned up at the lab. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
-I thought she'd been suspended. -She has. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
You just missed her, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:43 | |
she said she needed to pick up some personal things. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
-Where was she going? -She didn't say. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
Did she do anything else while she was here? | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
She logged on to her computer. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
What she was looking at? | 0:49:57 | 0:49:58 | |
She went online. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
And she was searching the internal system for an old case. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
It's not a name I recognise, Hayman, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Justin Hayman. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
Does that mean anything to you? | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
Last time I was here, she was checking a weapon for prints. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
Would you just humour me a little | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
and make sure that it's where it's supposed to be. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Now, check what she was doing online. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
Sandra, it's Jack. Anna King's left already. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
Do we know where she is? | 0:50:46 | 0:50:47 | |
'No, but she was checking the Hayman case in the system.' | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
Why now? | 0:50:50 | 0:50:51 | |
-You better see this. -Hang on, Jack. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
Luga's contact sent us a nice family picture. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
-What am I looking at? -Far right. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
Maria Mullat. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
Born Christina Dervishi, June '67, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
in the province of Shkoder in the village of Mullat. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
She came to the UK in 1995. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
So she took her new name from the village she came from. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
That's what it looks like. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
Jack, Maria Mullat's real name | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
'is Christina Dervishi. She's part of the other family.' | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
Yes, Anna was searching for her online. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
'How will she know who she is?' | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
The gun's not there. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:30 | |
Well, where could it be? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:32 | |
We're going to Mullat's office, meet you there. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
You better call for firearms support. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
-What? -There's a weapon missing here, I think Anna might have it. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:42 | |
What's happening? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:51 | |
Anna's in there and she's got Mullat with her. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
-I better talk to her. -It's too late for that. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
-Somebody's got to do something. -Jack! | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
Anna? | 0:52:12 | 0:52:13 | |
Anna? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
It's Jack. Jack Halford. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:18 | |
Go away. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:19 | |
I want to talk to you. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
I'll shoot her. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
Anna... | 0:52:23 | 0:52:24 | |
I'm coming in. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
It's all right, I'm on my own. There's only me. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
-You don't have to do this. -You don't even know what this is. -She's right. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
No, she's wrong. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:42 | |
I know your real name is Dervishi, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
and I know you changed it to Mullat when you came over here, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
and that's the name of the village you were brought up. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
It's also the name of the village where you were brought up. How did you find out? | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
I spoke to my father. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:56 | |
Well, he told you a lot more than he told us. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
Now this doesn't have to go on. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:00 | |
She killed my brother. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
And he killed my father. He shot him in the back. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
Don't say anything. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
I killed him and he squealed like a pig. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
-Don't do it, Anna. You're not like her. -Come on! | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
Shoot me if you're going to do it. Come on, do it! | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
Are you a coward like your brother? | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
This is not what you want now, is it? | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
-I'm doing this for David. -He wouldn't want any part of this. That's why he brought you here. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
What's wrong with you? | 0:53:24 | 0:53:25 | |
Think Anna, think! | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
GUNSHOTS Go, go, go. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
Armed police, put down your weapon now! | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
You're weak, just like your brother. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
He ran away too. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
-You all right? -Yeah, fine. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
You OK? | 0:53:57 | 0:53:58 | |
-Yeah, yeah, I think so. -Good. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
I'm arresting you for the murder of David Celaj. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
Of course Celaj recognised me. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
And I knew who he was as soon as he walked into the room. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
I told him not to worry, we'd both made new lives here. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
The past didn't matter any more. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:15 | |
And afterwards I followed him so I knew where to find him again. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
Why didn't you kill him then, why wait? | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
There was no hurry. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:24 | |
David Celaj wasn't a big man, but to tie him to that cross... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
you couldn't have done that on your own. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Someone must have helped you. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:35 | |
Yes, but he's back in Albania now, so you can't touch him. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
Anything else to add, Ms Mullat? | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
No. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
Interview terminated at 15:28. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
Come in. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
Ma'am, Mrs King for you. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:56 | |
Oh, thank you very much. Do come in. Take a seat. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
Would you like a tea, or coffee? | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
No, thanks. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:05 | |
Thank you for agreeing to see me. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
Not at all, what can I do for you? | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
They tell me that Anna's been charged with attempted murder. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:16 | |
I'm afraid that's right. Yes. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
I don't understand, I don't understand any of it. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
I mean, I know what happened, the facts. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
But I don't understand why... | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
Why Anna even got involved with any of this. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
Her brother was murdered. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
But she never asked, not once. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
She never told me she wanted details of her old life or where she came from. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
And you never brought it up? | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
No, we thought that was for the best. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
We thought it would be easier that way. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
Easier? | 0:55:53 | 0:55:54 | |
For all of us. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
We didn't want her to be confused, we... | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
We wanted her to feel secure. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
Well, in my experience ignoring something doesn't make it disappear, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
it just delays the moment when it has to come to the surface. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
Do you think we should have explained everything | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
when she was still a child? | 0:56:17 | 0:56:18 | |
That was your choice, Mrs King. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
I'm afraid I can't tell you whether it was the right one. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
More like just sat down and told us chapter and verse, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
How she followed David, took him by surprise. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
She smiled while she did it. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
She was proud of what happened. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
She avenged her father, upheld the family honour. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
I could call it a lot of things but honourable wouldn't be one of them. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:44 | |
So, what about Anna? | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
What about Anna? | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
We can't look the other way. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:53 | |
She tampered with evidence, stole a firearm and almost killed Mullat. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
-But she didn't. -Only cos you were there. We don't what would have happened. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
It was about her family, her culture, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
there were extenuating circumstances. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
That doesn't excuse what she did. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
It helps to explain it. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
Not good enough, Jack. Not good enough. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
Anyway, who would like another drink? | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
Not for me, thanks, | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
I've got to run. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
Another cooking class? | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
No. I've been invited to an oenological event. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
A what? | 0:57:33 | 0:57:34 | |
Wine tasting. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
Vintage wine. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
Which like women, get better with age. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
Thanks, Gerry. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:44 | |
I'm not sure he was talking about you. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
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