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Last week Peter Offord, a 43-year-old plumber, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
was arrested on suspicion of a robbery in Wembley | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
but his DNA didn't match any found at the scene. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
However it did show a link to a man found strangled on a Tube train, here, in March '96. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:15 | |
-The dead man's identity has never been established. -Until now? | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
It turns out Peter Offord was that murder victim's son. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Yeah? How did he react to that? | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
-Never knew his dad apparently, he was brought up alone by his mum. -But I don't understand. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
If this fella died on the Tube then surely this is one for British Transport Police? | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
Yeah, well, since 2002 the commissioner and the transport police | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
chief constable confer on such cases and it's been mutually agreed that UCOS should take this one on. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
What she means, it's been dumped on us. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Any scene-of-crime photos? | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
-No. -List of suspects? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
No scene-of-crime photos, no list of suspects and we don't even know the victim's name. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
-Well, what happened to him? -He was strangled. Face to face. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
-What sort of bloke was he? -He was a vagrant. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
-What, a tramp?! -Oh, great! | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
# It's all right It's OK | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
# It's all right I say it's OK | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
# Listen to what I say | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
# It's all right, doing fine | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
# It's all right I say it's OK | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
# We're gettin' to the end of the day. # | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
The last King's Cross fire victim was a tramp, it took them 17 years to identify him. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
Yes, because people didn't care enough. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
No-one cares about this guy either but it's about time they did... | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
You see there was no scene-of-crime photos | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
because when the body was discovered | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
it was assumed he was just another dosser dead from drink. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
The train was taken out of service and a Transport Police Inspector | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
ordered the body removed without examining the carriage... | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Which was cleaned up and back on the track within hours. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
-What about the post mortem? -Winter. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
A lot of old people had died so there was a queue. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
It was two days before the pathologist examined our man and realised he'd been strangled. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
Who was this Transport Police idiot? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
She'd only been promoted the day before. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
-"SHE". -No dental records? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
The victim had lost almost all his teeth. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
He had several broken bones, badly healed, plus the liver of a 70-year-old | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
although as it turns out, he was probably only about 50. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
What about missing persons? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
Well, they made a public appeal but no-one came forward. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
One or two tramps who used to travel the Underground | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
were interviewed by the Murder Squad but they were deemed incoherent and unreliable. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
-Pissed. -Yeah, you see, that is exactly the attitude I'm talking about. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Right, the body was discovered when the train driver was changing shift. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
Now, apparently tramps used to ride the Circle Line a lot as it was a great way to keep warm. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
They could sit on the train all day long as it went round and round. Not any more of course... | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
-What do you mean "not any more"? -Well, the Circle Line's not a circle now, is it? -Since when? | 0:02:51 | 0:02:57 | |
Since last year. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
Did none of you know that? | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
I never travel on the Tube. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Not since I retired, no. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
That is appalling! | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
Appalling? When was the last time you travelled on public transport? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
Anyway, I got them to locate the actual carriage which you two | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
can check out, whilst Jack and I go and chat to the plumber. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
It was here at Acton where they actually brought the train | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
after I found the bloke. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
You say you checked every carriage? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Oh, yeah. Drivers always check each carriage at the end of a shift. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. Well, you know, in case they find something wrong, left behind... | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
or dead. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
-Not that I needed to see this geezer, I could smell him halfway down the platform. -Really? | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
Yer, blimey, didn't half pen. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
-I mean, I know it's an occupational hazard but this patch give off a right whiff. -Patch? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
Patch o' damp - tramp. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
The geezer was obviously a wino but he'd sort of messed himself, you know what I'm saying? | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
-Dirty, filthy... -It's quite common for people to do that when they die. -Is it? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
My mum and dad never did. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
Well, presumably they weren't strangled either? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
No. No, course not. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Anyway, here is it. Carriage 5721. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Still in use? Isn't it a bit old? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Oh, yeah. Built to last though, aren't they? | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Shall we go in? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Just through here and it was | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
round here where the bloke was. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Well, how come nobody saw him being murdered? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Cos this was empty and because no-one in their right mind would have come in here. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
Honestly, if you'd tried, you'd have turned round and gone back out. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
-The smell, you couldn't even stand it for five seconds. -Well, the murderer did. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
Well, he must have had an iron stomach cos it turned mine right over. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
I backed straight out and I didn't go near him again. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Now we don't have any photos of the dead man... | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
Well, you're lucky then. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
No...what I mean is, we're not quite sure how he looked. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
-Not well. -No, I mean, his position. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
-Oh, his position? Oh, I don't know it's a long time ago, mate. I can't remember. -Well, try anyway. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
Right, OK. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Um, well, I think it was sort of, er, like this. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
There was shit and piss leaking down his trolleys onto the floor along... | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
Thank you! Thank you, Ken. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
No, stay there, stay there. Hold on. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
I never knew him! | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
I never knew my dad. Yeah? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
You know what? I think you're making this up. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
I promise you, we're not making anything up. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
All we want to do is find somebody who might have murdered someone on the Tube train 15 years ago. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:43 | |
Look! | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Under "Father". | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
See what it says?! | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
"Unknown"! | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
And that's not because my dad was a tramp. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
She knew who he was but she'd never say. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
She didn't even want to talk about him. Do you understand? | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Your mother never said anything that would give you a clue as to who your father was? | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
Oh, what, about the dad I never had? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Who buggered off before I was born, never sent us a penny and left my mum on her own to bring me up?! | 0:06:10 | 0:06:16 | |
Take a flying guess. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
Look, maybe this tramp was my dad. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
But ask yourself this, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
what makes you think I give a damn? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
OK, first things first. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Why would... Thank you. Why would anyone kill a tramp in such a public place? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Especially as it was only out of sight for a couple of seconds in between stations? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
-Tramp rage? -Yeah, but remember, the smell is going to stop almost anyone from getting in that carriage. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
Except another tramp - i.e. the murderer. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Which is what the murder squad reckoned. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Or someone totally committed to killing this man. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
You'd put up with the stink then. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Well, if the post mortem and Ken's memory are correct, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
then the deceased must have met his killer face to face. Poor bugger. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
I'll say. You got to be some kind of psycho to strangle someone while looking them in the eye. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
I don't think so. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Tramps are usually killed by being beaten or kicked to death. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-To kill him this way... -What, you mean up close and personal? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Exactly. I think it's personal. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Which helps us how exactly? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
The best way... probably the only way... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-to find out who killed him is to identify him. -Great. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-Back to square one then. -No... | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
all the more reason to carry on. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
And actually, can we stop calling him "him" or "the victim"? Let's dignify him with a name or something. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:36 | |
-Tom. -Dick. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-Harry? -Harry. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Bye-Bye. Thanks very much. Smashing. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Good night. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
See you tomorrow. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
Got any spare change? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
She'll only spend it on drink or drugs. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
-So what? -Well, it's up to you. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
-What's your name, love? -Ta-da. -Leah. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Leah. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
-Are you all right? -Yeah, fine. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
You sure? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Do your parents know where you are? | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
They don't give a shit, mate. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
-Got any friends? -Yeah, I got friends. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Are they all same age as you? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
Sorry, I'm not saying this very well. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
Do you have any older people as friends...on the street? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
You must be joking. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
Anyone old doing this is mad, drunk or diseased. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Me and my mates are just damaged, abused and brought up in care. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
So you all lead separate lives, do you? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-What are you, some kind of weirdo? -No, no, I'm not a weirdo, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
it's just... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
-Leah, is there anything I can do to help you? -Yeah... | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
can you get me a job, a flat and a boyfriend who loves me? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Sorry, can't do that, love. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Well, ta-ra then. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Ta-ra. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
All right, I give up, what have I done? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
-Eh? -You haven't said a word since 9.47 | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
-except to the dog. -Oh, I know, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
I'm sorry. I'm just... | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
I'm still thinking about this girl, this Leah. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
-And Harry. -Who's Harry? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
-Well, that's what we decided to call the... -Tramp. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
The deceased. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
I feel for them. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Him especially. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Isolated, alone, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
perceived by everyone as odd, strange... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
weird even. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
Imagine what that must be like. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Imagine(!) | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
Brian, you can't take on all the troubles of the world. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
What you can do is find out who killed someone who everyone else thought of as worthless. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:10 | |
Because you can be sure that somebody somewhere knew him and cared about him. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
And that someone needs you. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
How did someone like me end up with someone as gorgeous and fantastic as you? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
That's a question I often ask myself. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
I checked with London Underground. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
After the King's Cross fire they installed CCTV on the Tube, but it was a bit patchy in '96 | 0:10:46 | 0:10:52 | |
-so the Murder Squad couldn't work out where the victim got on the train. -Or his killer. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
-Or where he was murdered? -Exactly. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Well, we know he was killed in that carriage. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
But does it matter where exactly on the line he got done? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
It could do because the Circle Line has 26 stations, but not many of them have enough | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
distance between them to give a man time to strangle somebody. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
Well, how long does it take... manual strangulation? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Well, it depends on the circumstances. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
I'd reckon two minutes minimum. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
Anyway, the killer would want as much time as possible. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
Maybe he just got lucky. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
Or knew exactly what he was doing. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
So why don't you just get on a train? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Get a feel for the journey. Take some proper timings. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
I've got a stop watch you can use. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
Ah, cheers. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
Now, I tried to track down those tramps that the Met wanted to talk to. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
They've all got weird monikers. The ones that ride the Tube are called Hoppers. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
Did you track them down? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
No. After 15 years no-one's ever heard of them. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
No way of knowing if they're even alive. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Now, the Offord family might be more helpful. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Now, the mum, Iris... | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
the one who never spoke about the dad died in July '95 which is eight months before Harry got killed. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
Now, apart from not having a husband, she did have family. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Well, the parents are dead, but there's a sister who's alive and well and living in Esher. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Brian Lane. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
And sisters talk to each other, right? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
What, really? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Hang on. Hang on. Christine Offord. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
She's upstairs, wants to talk to you. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
-Mrs Offord. -Christine...please. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
Um, I just wanted to say sorry, for the way Peter reacted when you came round. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
You must understand that Peter is very bitter about what happened to his mum. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
But beneath it all I know he wouldn't want you not to try | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
and carry on doing what you're doing. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-Well, we are carrying on. -And I know that, deep down, he does want to know... | 0:12:56 | 0:13:02 | |
he needs to know...who this man is. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Who his dad was. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
That's all I come to say. Thank you. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
Oi! Let go of her! | 0:13:29 | 0:13:30 | |
You animal! | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Ya-a-ah! | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
-Are you all right? -Yeah. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
-Here. -Cheers. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
-Are you all right? -Yeah... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
I think I am. Thanks. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
It's OK. Take your time. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Ah, lovely. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Better? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Yeah, much better now, thanks. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
So, what was he after? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
What did he want? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Money? My sleeping bag? Dunno. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
How can you live like this? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
-Practice. -No. Come on. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
A life on the streets is no life at all for a young... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-Don't start getting moral! -No, no I'm not preaching. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
That's this country all over! | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Please! No. Don't go. I'm sorry. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
-Come on, sit down. -OK. But only if you don't keep going on. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
All right. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
It's your generation that cocked everything up, not mine. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Yeah, you're right. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
We do need helping. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
I definitely need help. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
And, you know, the funny thing is you're probably the one who can help me. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
What are you? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Well, I used to be a policeman. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
It's all right, I'm retired now. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
I work for a thing now called UCOS. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Unsolved Crime and Open Case Squad. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
We're trying to find the murderer of a... | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
man who was killed on the Tube. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
He's one of those men I was talking about. They're known as... | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Hoppers. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
Yeah. Yeah, there's still some around. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
-Yeah? -I've met a few. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Weird. And mad. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
And, yeah, I know where some of 'em hang out when they're not on the Tube. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
Hello, gentlemen. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
-Mikey! Hello, Mikey! -No. Sorry, My name's not Mikey. I'm Brian. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:23 | |
Yah! Mikey...always having a laugh! | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
Fancy a drop of cider, Mikey? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
No, thanks, you're all right. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
Er, actually I'm looking for... | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-Toolbar. -Ah! Toolbar's gone. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Dead and buried. And good riddance. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
What about Danny Pearl? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
-Dead. -A horse ate him. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
-Did he owe you money? -No, no, no. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Jim the Lick? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
That's three. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
-That's bad luck. -You've a terrible habit of bringing up the names of dead men. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
I'm sorry. Forgive me. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Where's your can? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
-Can? -Drink. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
Oh, no, I don't have any. You don't know if Tony No Ticket's still around, do you? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
Where did you say your drink was? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
I didn't. In fact, I don't drink. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
You're a bloody liar! | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Everybody drinks! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, mate, but I assure you that I don't. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
-Don't lie, Mikey. -Please. Don't do that. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
And don't call me Mikey, it's not my name. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
You think you can come here without a bottle, bold as bollocks, and just take the piss!? | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
-I am not trying to take... -That's my coat! You nicked my coat! | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
You're mistaken. It's mine. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
I've had it a long time. Now, please... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
You're a liar. You nicked it off me in Debenhams. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
You're a dirty, lying, thieving... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-No. No. I promise you. -He's a spy! He's a spy for the Ruskies! | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
-He wants our internal organs! -Bloody hell! | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Hell of a shot, Bill. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:04 | |
There you go, sweetheart. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
-Janice Pargetter? -Can I help you? -Detective Superintendent Pullman, This is colleague Gerry Standing, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
-we're from the Unsolved Crime and Open Case Squad. -Really? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Could we possibly come in for a few moments? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Of course. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
How exciting! What is it you've come to talk to me about? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
We believer that Iris Offord was your sister. Is that right? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
I'm sorry, I've no interest in Iris... | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
and no wish to talk about her. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Mrs Pargetter. We're investigating the murder of a man who may have some connection to your sister. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Be that as it may, it is of no consequence to me and I merely | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
reiterate that I have nothing to say about anything to do with Iris. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Perhaps you don't understand. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
Of course I understand. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
My husband is close friends with the Chief Constable of Surrey. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
Is he? Is he really?! | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
No, that's absolutely fine, Mrs Pargetter. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
I'll have a word with my boss and get him to the Commissioner who can talk with your husband's friend. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
That way it should be easier to bring uniformed Officers and take you | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
to Esher Police station. Would that be better for you? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
Wakey-wakey. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
Come on. Get up and get a move on. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
It's all right, I'm with the Met. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Hang on. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
-Oh, my God! -Yes, very good. Now, be a nice lad and on your way. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
-No, you don't understand... -Oh, I think I do. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
No, what I mean is, they've taken everything away with them. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
-Not the smell of cider, they haven't. -I have not been drinking! | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
-No, of course you haven't(!) On your bike. -Have you got my bike? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
Don't try and be clever. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
I don't have to... | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
I work for UCOS! | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
I'm a former CID detective with 31 years' experience! | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I won't tell you again. Get up! | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Don't talk to me like that. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Listen. Get up and shut up. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
I told you, don't use that tone of voice with me! | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Stand back! Warning. Taser firing! | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
You all right, love? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Yeah, Yeah. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Are you scared? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
I used to travel a lot. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:03 | |
On the Tube. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
But then I stopped. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
-Because of 7/7? -What? | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
No, no...no. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
My wife died. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
Well, I think you're very brave. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
I better get to work. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
I removed Iris from my life a very long time ago... | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
-as did our parents. -Why? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Because Iris was a creature of the '60s in its worst manifestation. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
Wild, selfish and a complete embarrassment to the whole family. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
And where are your family from? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Battersea. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
My father was a postman and mother was a cleaner. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
They sacrificed a lot for us obviously. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
-And Iris repaid them by embracing all those nonsensical ideas the '60s were full of. -Such as? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
Socialism. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Hippiedom. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
Free love... | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
And Iris discovered that free love is not free at all. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
-Certainly not in Essex. -Essex? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
That's where she went | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
chasing her god. David something... I don't know his other name. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
She met him in London and ran after him like a silly lapdog. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
Even got a job in a pub apparently to be near him. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Of course he just used her, she ended up coming back | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
12 months later with her tail between her legs and... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
-she was pregnant. -By this David. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
Who knows? I assume so. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
Anyhow, Iris wanted back into the family fold but Mum and Dad wouldn't have it. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
They wouldn't let her in the house. Talk to her, even. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
We never spoke to her again. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
Whereabouts in Essex, do you know? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Oh, somewhere awful. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
Beginning with a B I think. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
-Basildon, Brentwood? -No, no... | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
somewhere much worse than that. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
-Billericay. -Exactly. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Yes, that was it. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:01 | |
How old was Iris, when she got pregnant? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
18. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Excuse me. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
It's Esther. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
-They Tasered me! -He became violent. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
I was not violent. I was...vehement! | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
He was naked except for a T-shirt, pair of pants and a single sock. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
Those bloody tramps nicked my coat! | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
-About time someone did. -I'm sorry you've been put to so much trouble. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
I assure you it's very out of character. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Thank you, but it's not the first time this has happened. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Mr Lane has been arrested twice before for being drunk and disorderly. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
That was years ago, he doesn't touch a drop now. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
At all. Ever. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
Come on. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Thank you. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:49 | |
-I have to get my coat back! -If you don't shut up you'll be lucky to get your job back. -Thank you, Sandra. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
Thank you. You. In. Now. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
I feel... | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
violated. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Well, you should have more respect for the police then, shouldn't you? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
I'm talking about my coat! | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
I'm bereft. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
It's a filthy, shabby old thing you should have got rid of ages ago. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
You don't understand. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
That coat has a value and a significance way beyond mere, mere material goods. It's... | 0:24:29 | 0:24:36 | |
Oh, go to sleep. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
Those bloody tramps. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Oh, what... | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
-those people you care about so much(?) -Not this lot! | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
These were just a bunch of nasty, thieving... | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Anyway...they need that coat a lot more than you do. | 0:24:54 | 0:25:01 | |
According to Broadmoor Bill and Bedknob, most of them were dead | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
and I never got to find out about this Tony No Ticket. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
They went very weird when I mentioned him. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Jack, tell us about the Tube. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
There's hardly ever more than a couple of minutes between stations on the Circle Line. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Probably no more than about 70 seconds. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
But there is this bit between King's Cross and Liverpool Street | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
where there are three stretches with at least two minutes each. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Oh, I got in touch with Missing Persons, see if they had anyone on file, between the ages of 18 and 45 | 0:25:26 | 0:25:33 | |
called David who went missing from Billericay in the late '80s. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
-They're going to get back to us. -Billericay? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
Yeah, Janice Pargetter said that Iris went to Essex, got a job | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
-in a pub and came back pregnant. -Probably not a world first. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Right then, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
-I'm off. -Jack, go with him and make sure he stays out of trouble. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
-Where's your coat? -Your guess is as good as mine, Jack. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
Well, apparently if they're not down by the river, they'll be hanging around here somewhere. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
Jack! It's me coat! | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
It's me lucky coat! That swine, they've given it to charity. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
Hardly given it, they've probably flogged it, or... | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
No, it's mine! Jack, look! | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
-It's my lucky coat. -No, Brian, Brian. Look. That's your coat. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
Right, get it off! | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
-Eh? -That's my coat that you nicked and I want it back! | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-Now, look here, pal. -Coat! Off! | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Now look what you done. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
You made poor old Broadmoor Bill cry. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
You knocked me out with a half-brick, you stripped me and left me on the ground next to naked. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
Yes. But it was Sid and Bill who took your clothes. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
-And it was me who told them to leave you your pants so's you could retain your dignity. -Get it off! | 0:27:00 | 0:27:07 | |
Ugh... | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Eau de Thames. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
Right, Tony No Ticket. Where do we find him? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
You're bad luck. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
The angel of death. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
Everyone you talk about is dead... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Or dying. Like No Ticket. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-Dying? Where? -In a thingy. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
-A dying place. -What, you mean a hospice? | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
That's it. That's right. A hospital where they put you on ice. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
Until... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
Brilliant. Thanks very much. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Governor, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
David Allenforth aged 46 from Timworth near Billericay | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
was reported missing in 1989 by his younger brother Charles. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
Now we're talking! | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
-David? -Yes. March 1996. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
-We can't be sure of course but... -No, no, please. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
If it was David it would be a relief in all sorts of ways. But...murdered? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
Well, that's so sad. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
We know next to nothing about your brother, so it might help if you could tell us something about him. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:32 | |
You reported him missing in 1989? | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
Yes. He had disappeared before that from time to time, but he'd always returned. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
David suffered from depression. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
I was worried he might take his own life. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
It's doubly ironic he was found on a train. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
I half-expected to hear he'd died under one. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
He was mad about railways. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
It was his passion. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Did you know anything about this Iris Offord? | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
About her and David? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Did you hear that he might have had a son? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
No, no. That would be a real surprise. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
May I ask, do you know where... this man is buried? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
Yeah, he's in an unmarked grave but I can let you know where exactly. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
Please. If it does turn out to be David, I'd like for him to be brought back here | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
and buried among his family. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
-I'm sure that can be arranged. -Thank you. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
And thanks for coming all this way personally to tell me. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
Would it be possible to take a sample of your DNA, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
just to ascertain whether the dead man is your brother or not. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Of course. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:37 | |
In or out of the bag, your coat stinks. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
All right. I'll not leave it in the car. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
PHONE BEEPS | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Ah, it's from Sandra. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Harry, possibly David Allenforth from Billericay. Missing since 1989. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
1989? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
-Good Afternoon. -Good afternoon. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
-Welcome to Saint Eleanor's hospice. -Thank you. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Be gentle with him. He's a favourite of us all. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
-Tony? Tony Hale? -Possibly. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
Also known as Tony No Ticket? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
-HE LAUGHS -I've not been called that in ages! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
But you were...when you used to ride the Underground. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Ride it? I used to live on it. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
-How long? -Oh! Years. -Without a ticket. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Almost never with a ticket. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
But that was in the good old days when people treated a man like a human being. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:52 | |
Looks like you're being treated like a human being here. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Ah, these are not people... | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
they're choirs of angels singing me to my rest. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
And the Circle Line... did you ride on that? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
-Many a time and oft. -In the 1990s? -Oh, yes. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
And do you remember another gentleman of the road at the time, who also rode the Circle Line? | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
You mean 'rails'. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Gentleman of the rails. Only this gentleman was murdered in March 1996? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
I think you can let them take me in. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Thank you. Come on then. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
I take it you do remember the dead man. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
The police spoke to you about it at the time. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
-But they didn't get much sense out of you. -No. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
I would have been quite insensible with the drink. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
You'd get more sense out of a frog in a cocktail cabinet. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
That was one of his sayings... the feller you're on about. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
-You knew him? -The Loconaut? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
He was my guiding light. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
A great and gentle man. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Loconaut? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Mad about trains. Any of them. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
But the London Underground above all. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
-He'd a passion for it, he said. -What was his real name? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
David. That's all you could get out of him. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
He wouldn't tell anyone his surname. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Said his identity was in a previous life he preferred to forget. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:36 | |
To the rest of us he was just the Loconaut. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
-Or loco nut more often than not. -Why? | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
Because he was mad. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Completely. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
-Mad, melancholy and very broken at the heart of it all. -Because? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:55 | |
Because he had lost the most valuable thing in his life, he said. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
-What was that? -A jewel, he called it. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
A lost jewel he could never get back. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
He said that he'd been bribed to give it away. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
He called it blood money. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
The worst thing he ever did in his life. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
D'you know what he meant by that? | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
Of course I do. It was a woman, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
a woman he loved and his family persuaded him to dump her. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:31 | |
Where was he from? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
You'd never know from his voice... | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
which was cut glass... | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
but I recall him saying the letters LNER were engraved upon his heart. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
Ah-ha! London and North Eastern Railway! | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
Well, before the grouping in 1923, Essex would have been part | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
of Eastern Railways before it was amalgamated into what became LNER in 1923. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:58 | |
Oh, you and the Loconaut would have got on like a shed on fire. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
And a lot more than the snoop who came looking for him. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
-What snoop? When? -Not long after I last saw the Loco. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
A Private Investigator he titled himself. A snoop I say. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:17 | |
-Why didn't you mention this to the police this? -Because I was pissed. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
-And did you tell this snoop where the Loconaut was? -I did not. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
I told him no more than save that he was probably on a train somewhere... | 0:34:25 | 0:34:32 | |
-in England. -HE COUGHS | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
Do you remember his name? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
-What was he like? -Devious. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
Said he was working for the family. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
Right. Right, I'd be very much obliged if you two would bugger off. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
I'm getting bored with both of you and I'd like to do a bit more | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
breathing whilst I'm capable of it, if you don't mind. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
I think he's dying. But that doesn't mean he's not lying. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
Yeah. Hang on, where's me coat? | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
-Did you want it? -Yes. -Excuse me. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
I was wondering if you knew anything about Tony before he came here? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
Oh, I'm afraid I don't know very much at all. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
Except that he was in the army for a while. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-I'm sorry. -Thank you. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
I'm making a call to see if Tony is ex-army. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
The labs should have preliminary results on Charles Allenforth's DNA by the end of the day. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:38 | |
OK. We're going to go and see Christine Offord to find out what she really wanted to say. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
-Ta-da. -God, I wish they wouldn't always play Vivaldi. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
I told you I never ever saw any tramp. I never met my father or wanted to kill him. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
Peter, stop please. Stop it. We're not going to get anywhere like this. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
I just wanted to say that we haven't been completely honest | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
and that we hired a private detective to track his father down. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
-When? -After his mother, Iris died. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
She'd spent her whole life waiting for him to turn up. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
She said he was the love of her life and vice versa. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
-Chrissie... please... -She told us he would come for her... | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-that one day he would come back. -Back? From where? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
-She just said he would come. -On a train. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
She said he'd arrive by train. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
They met on a train. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
He kissed her on that train. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Iris said she'd never forgot that kiss. And neither would he. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
And that he would come back. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
But he didn't. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
No. In the end it broke her heart. Years of waiting. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
It killed her. She was 45. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
When she died it made me pretty mad. I wanted to find him... | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
and yes, more out of hate than anything else... | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
but I never got anywhere. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
I tracked down my mum's sister, but she didn't even want to know me... | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
-Hang on. You spoke to Janice? -Yeah. That's where I started. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
I tried to explain to her but she just said she knew nothing about my mum. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
She more or less slammed the door in my face. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
That's when we got the Detective involved. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
And this would have been in 1996? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
Yes... but that was even worse. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
-He took a load of money off me and then just vanished. -How do you mean? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Well, we never heard from him and when we went back to his office | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
a couple of weeks later, it was empty... cleared out. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
After that I just gave up. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
What was his name? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
Er... Chrissie, what was it? Roger? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Yes. He said he was an ex-policeman. Oh, yeah, Roger Mc... | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
McHugh. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
-Yeah. -Now I believe you. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Roger the Dodger, remember him? | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
-Dodgy Roger McHugh. -Exactly. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
-Oh, well... that puts a whole new dimension to this case. -Yeah. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
A whole new lying hound dimension. Oh, and he's changed his name. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
-Oh, yeah? -Now he's known as Richard Meyer. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
-Thank you. -Even rhymes with liar. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
I checked out an address in Holborn where the Offords claim they met Roger McHugh and the landlord says | 0:38:02 | 0:38:07 | |
McHugh left in February '96 owing six months rent. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
-One month before David died. -Yeah, if it is David. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
It is. Initial DNA results confirm that Charles Allenforth and the dead man are siblings. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:19 | |
-Their father was killed in Korea. -Well, Charles has definitely got to be in the frame as then. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Along with Tony No Ticket. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Yeah, well I thought you said you didn't think another tramp could have done it? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
That was before I found out that this tramp was ex-SAS. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
You're kidding? | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
He was a Para for nine years and then the Regiment from 1975 to 1986. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
I don't know what he did but that period includes Northern Ireland, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
the Embassy siege, the Falklands War. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
-Certainly gives him the know-how. -Yes, but not the why. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
How many killings are just spur of the moment. How many fuelled by drink? | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
My money's still on Peter Offord. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Yeah, especially with Roger the dodger involved. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
And we've only got the Offords' word that they never saw McHugh again. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
Well, there's only one way to find out. I think it's time you and Brian renewed an old friendship. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
Can't wait! | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Is this it? | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
-Can't be. -It is. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
Makes you sick doesn't it. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
Don't worry, Mrs Shorey, we'll do our level best to find Andre... | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
and the money. If you could just leave your telephone number, address and credit card details | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
with Antoinette and leave the rest to me and my associates. Is that ok? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
Jolly good. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
-Mrs Sheppard. -Hello... | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
Richard. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
I'm sorry, have we met before? | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
Oh, yes. 2005. Only then you were The Triple A Detective Agency. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
-Roger. -No, no, no, no. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
-You must have me mixed up with someone quite different I'm afraid. -Oh, unlikely. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
And then, as now, we came to see you about a murder. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
No. I am afraid you are completely mistaken. My name is Richard Meyer. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:08 | |
A young Asian girl in a coma... very nasty. And now it's a man strangled on a train. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:14 | |
Could you, could you hold my calls, Antoinette? | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
Don't worry, everybody, back with you in just a moment. Just to sort out this terrible misunderstanding. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:23 | |
Now, gentlemen, would you give me one minute? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
10 seconds? | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
Roger! Roger! | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
Come to Daddy! | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
All right, all right. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
You were in the regiment 11 years, Tony. That's an awfully long time. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
-Where were you? -All over the place. -You must have seen some pretty dark things? | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
Oh, please don't tell me you're trying to link cause and effect. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
That would be cod psychology of the most trite variety. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:11 | |
David Allenforth was your friend. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
The finest man you ever knew, you told my colleague here. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-Now the person who strangled him, did it very quickly and expertly. -Yes, well...not being | 0:41:16 | 0:41:23 | |
long for this world... if I see David in the next, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
I'll ask him who did it. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
-You don't know? -How could I? I wasn't there. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:36 | |
Listen. In January 1996, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
Peter Offord gave you 400 quid to find his father. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
You took the 400 quid and legged it! | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
No. Next question. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
-Yeah. Why are you such a liar? Is that a medical condition? -I couldn't possibly comment... | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
-except to remind you both that I, like you, used to be a copper. -You were never a copper like us. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:05 | |
The man Offord wanted you to find was called David Allenforth. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
He was found strangled to death on a Tube train less than seven weeks after you were 'hired'. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:17 | |
-Yeah...right. -He died face to face with his killer, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
who we think knew him and where to find him. Now, you were supposed | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
-to be looking for him, Roger. -You're not serious? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
You don't seriously think that I had something to do with the murder of this guy? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:34 | |
I can believe anything of you, Roger. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
I said I can believe anything of you Richard! Even murder! | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
All right, all right, all right. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
I admit that I did meet with Offord | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
and I may have accepted a small sum of money from him. Thank you. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
Which you never paid back. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Things were erm, things were extremely difficult back then. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
-Were they? -Yeah and besides, it was clear that it was a hopeless search. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
-Soon as I knew he was a tramp... -Who said he was a tramp? How do you know he was a tramp? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
-His aunt told me. -His Aunt? What, Janice Pargetter? -Yeah. Iron knickers. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:11 | |
Now why would she tell you things she wouldn't tell us? | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
-Err, cos I offered her money. -OK. Then what? -Well, then I went | 0:43:13 | 0:43:19 | |
on this half hearted search for this tramp called Dave Billericay was it? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
Yes? And? Did you find him? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
-No. -So? | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
So, then I went to look for a missing person called Dave from Billericay. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
And I discovered that there was one...and that he had a brother. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:40 | |
So, I went to meet him. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
You went to meet him? | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
-Yes... Posh Charlie. -Posh Charlie? | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
Were you a parrot, were you? In another life? Yeah, posh Charlie. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:53 | |
Minted. Anyway he said ta very much and that was that. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:58 | |
What d'you mean, that was that? Why didn't you go back to the Offords? | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
-They'd have given you more money for succeeding. -But I didn't succeed, did I? | 0:44:02 | 0:44:07 | |
All I did was establish who this geezer might have been... I never actually located him. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
As I say, a waste of time! | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
-Janice. -I'm sorry but I've said all I'm going to say about my sister. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
-Well, that just goes to show how wrong you can be. Two words...Roger McHugh. -Roger who? | 0:44:20 | 0:44:26 | |
He was a Private Detective who called on you in 1996. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
OK, how about your nephew... Peter Offord? | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
-He called on you roughly the same time to ask you to help find his dad. -How was I to know who he was? | 0:44:35 | 0:44:40 | |
You knew exactly who he was. So why did you lie to him and tell him you knew nothing about his father? | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
-Because I didn't! -Or was it because he didn't offer you any money? | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
We're not laughing, Janice. You lied to your nephew and yet you were happy to sell information to a Private Eye. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:56 | |
And what good would it have done, my giving that information | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
to Iris's son? That his mother threw herself at a man for nothing. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
-He just abandoned her. -He called you didn't he? David. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
No. No...I don't know who you're talking about. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
Urgh. Governor, shall I phone the Surrey Police? | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
-No! No!! -Lets go inside, Janice. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
I didn't think there would be any doubt. I always knew it was David. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
Yes, well, we didn't just come to give you the initial test results, Mr Allenforth. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
The fact is, we've tracked down a Private Detective called Roger McHugh. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
Now he claims he came to see you in connection with your missing brother. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
-Back in February 1996. -Yes. Yes, that's true. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
But you didn't think to mention this to Detective Superintendent Pullman. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
Can you explain why? | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
-Because the man you're talking about took money from me. -And? | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
I didn't trust him at first. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
I thought he was working for someone trying to get money out of the family. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
Well, he got that bit right, didn't he? He did. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
No, I mean he explained about the Offords. He was very plausible. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
So in the end I told Mr McHugh | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
that whatever he was being paid to find my brother, I would more than double it if he succeeded... | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
not least because of my anxiety over David's mental state. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
Let me get this straight... you also hired McHugh to find your missing brother? | 0:46:16 | 0:46:22 | |
Yes. But then after I paid him a sizeable retainer he disappeared | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
and I never saw him again. I felt a fool for having fallen | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
for what was obviously just a confidence trick. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
How much is 'sizeable'? | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
£2,000. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
He was thin, dirty, very badly dressed. Unkempt. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:46 | |
-When was this? -I can't remember. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
-Sometime around 1990, something like that. -What did he want? | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
-He wanted to find my sister. -Go on. | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
He said he loved her. That he'd always loved her | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
and that it had been a mistake letting her go. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
That he'd never forgiven himself. I wasn't impressed. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
-What did you say to him? -I told him what was for the best. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
I said that Iris was happy now and she'd moved on. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
-That she was married. -That was untrue. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
I did what was right. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
What possible good could have come from him seeing the woman he'd abandoned so many years earlier? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:28 | |
-Did you tell him he had a son? -Of course not. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
-It probably wasn't even his anyway. -MOBILE RINGS | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
Jack. Hi. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
No, we're done. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
Did he? OK, we'll get on to it. Cheers, bye. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
Let's get out of here. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
Oh, come on. This is harassment. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
Evening, Roger. Long time, no see. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
-Proper Copper. -Listen, I've already chatted with Doc and his mate Dopey here... | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
And we've talked to Charles Allenforth, who says he did hire you but you ran off with £2,000 of his. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
That's getting to be quite a habit with you, Roger. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
I ran off? Did I bollocks! | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
Not true? | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
No. I'll admit, I didn't get back to Offord, but I did get back to Posh Charlie about his brother. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
What, you found David Allenforth? | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
Well, no. But I knew who he was, so I could work out where he might hang out. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
So I phoned posh Charlie and I said, "Listen - your brother's up in London somewhere being a tramp. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
"And seeing as how information is the currency of my business, if you want a bit more then... | 0:48:41 | 0:48:46 | |
-"It'll cost ya." -And what did he say to that? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
He said it wasn't worth the two grand he'd already paid me and he wanted some of it back. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
So I said, "Tough." | 0:48:53 | 0:48:54 | |
-WAS there any more? -As it happens, yeah. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
Yeah, I found out that his brother used to hang about on the Underground. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
-He was one of them... What d'you call 'em? -Hoppers. -Yeah, that's it. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
And how did you find this out? | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
I was told it by another tramp. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
He said that he was this David geezer's best mate and that they used to spend all day | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
-on the Underground going round and round on the Circle Line. -Did this other tramp have a name? | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
Yeah, course he did. He was, er... | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
-Bus pass. Something like that. -No Ticket. Tony No Ticket. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
That's right, yeah. Tony No Ticket. Good night. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
Anthony, what are you doing? | 0:49:31 | 0:49:32 | |
You KNOW you shouldn't be out of bed. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
Leave me alone! I'm fine. I'm fine. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
Go on, get out of here. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
-Tony, this is Gerry. -All right? -Yeah, I'm all right, yeah. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
Gerry and just I talked to the snoop who came looking for David Allenforth in 1996. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:53 | |
He said that you told him all about David - | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
how he was your friend, how you rode the Underground together. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
The Circle Line, even. That's not what you told us. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
I forget things a lot. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
No. Tony, that won't do. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
Look, I was under the influence. The drink, see. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:12 | |
-So what you did tell this private eye? -He plied me with drink. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:17 | |
-Yeah, he'd do that. -But afterwards... | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
I-I couldn't remember exactly what it was that I'd said. Except... | 0:50:19 | 0:50:24 | |
-Except what? -Except I shouldn't have said it. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
I remember him saying the Loconaut's family were worried for him. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
Wanting to find him. And I realised then I'd done the worst thing possible. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
What do you mean? | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
I'd put him back in the shit, among the people who wrecked his life. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:44 | |
So I tried to put it right. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
-Put it right? -Yeah, I tried to save him. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
-You've lost me. -I spoke to the family. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
The brother, in particular. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
What are you talking about? | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
I tracked him down. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
Tracked him down? How? | 0:51:00 | 0:51:01 | |
How?! | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
I tracked Colombian drug barons for three months in the South American rainforest, savvy. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:10 | |
I got on a train! | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
-What did you say to the brother? -I told him to get out of David's life. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
To leave his life and leave him alone. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
That living on the Underground, like me and David, | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
was better than being dead and buried above ground like them. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
Am I right? | 0:51:26 | 0:51:27 | |
Scampi! | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
Good boy. Come on. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
Esther? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
I'm home! | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
Come on, boy. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
Esther! | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
Esther! What are you doing? | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
It was alive. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
That was my coat! | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
Yes, I know it was. I bought it for you. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
Now I'm getting rid of it. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
My lucky coat! | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
11:30. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
Yep, he should be here by now. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
-Where have you been? -Garnering information. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
-What information? -DNA. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
-I'm an expert now. -What? PHONE RINGS | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
UCOS. Brian Lane. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
Cheers. I'm on me way. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
Charles Allenforth has arrived. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:32 | |
I'll explain in there. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
Sorry for dragging you all the way to London, but... | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
Well, we have been up to Essex twice. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
We've had the full results of the DNA tests now. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
They confirm that the dead body found on the Tube train in 1996 was your brother David. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:49 | |
Ah. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
I thought it must be. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
We now also know that Peter Offord is definitely your brother's illegitimate son. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
Would you like to meet him? | 0:52:57 | 0:52:58 | |
Of course. I'd be happy to. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
Do you think you might settle some of the Allenforth estate upon Peter? He being David's son. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:08 | |
Well, my brother having died, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
any claim by an illegitimate child of a deceased heir... | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
automatically fails. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
You seem very certain of the law. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
There was a lot of legalese for me to look after when David went missing. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:25 | |
Certainly a lot of estate. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
When did you first become aware that Peter Offord was looking for his father? | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
I can't remember, specifically. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
February 1996. That would be eight months before the seven years needed to elapse | 0:53:36 | 0:53:41 | |
before you could make a legal claim on the family estate. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
The heir to an estate having to be missing presumed dead | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
for at least seven years before the next in line can inherit. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
That is right, isn't it, Mr Allenforth? | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
I'm sorry, I'm not with you. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
We're talking about English law. You, being the youngest son, would be next in line to the estate. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:59 | |
-Correct? -What's going on? | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
What's this about? | 0:54:02 | 0:54:03 | |
Tony Hale. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
His street name, as it were, is Tony No Ticket. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
You met him in February '96. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
When he told you where your brother was. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
Something which, for reasons I can only guess at, you neglected to inform us. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
I have no idea who or what you're referring to. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:22 | |
I'm referring to how you traced your brother, Mr Allenforth. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
My God. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
You mean I'm under suspicion? | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
For killing my brother David? Is that what you're saying? | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
I'm talking about what Tony Hale has to say. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
Guv? I need a word. Urgent. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
Excuse me. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:45 | |
This is ludicrous. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
Nice tie. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
I'm sorry to have taken up so much of your time, Mr Allenforth. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:05 | |
-You're free to go. -What are you doing? | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
Should you wish to communicate with me again about my brother's death, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
I would prefer it if you did so through my solicitor. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
Goodbye. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:18 | |
What the hell is going on? | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
Tony No Ticket died last night. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
That's it. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
No, it isn't. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:32 | |
Mr Allenforth. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
Sorry, Mr Allenforth. Just one more thing. If you wouldn't mind? | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
One LAST thing. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
Give us a minute, will you? | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
We know you murdered your brother. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
Oh, not you personally. I'm sure you always get someone else to do your dirty work... | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
But that's not really what I wanted to talk about. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
These are the DNA profiles for you, your brother David and Mr Peter Offord. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:58 | |
Fascinating, I'm sure(!) | 0:55:58 | 0:55:59 | |
Particularly when you realise that you and your brother share the same mother... | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
but not the same father. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
I'm sorry? | 0:56:06 | 0:56:07 | |
This morning, I contacted the War Records Office at Kew and the Gloucestershire Regiment - | 0:56:07 | 0:56:12 | |
your father's old outfit. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
Peter David Allenforth was killed at Imjin, Korea on April 23rd, 1951. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:21 | |
You were born... | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
-When was it? -March. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
March of the same year. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
Now, according to the records, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
your father was in Korea for 18 months straight before he was killed. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
In other words, he couldn't have been here when you were conceived. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:38 | |
Therefore he couldn't be your real father. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
Who the hell do you think you are? | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
Oh, I know who I am - that's the whole point. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
Now, I can't prove that you murdered your brother. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
But I can pass this DNA information on to Mr Peter Offord, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
who, I suspect, might want to be in touch. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
For although he is illegitimate, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
he is the son of a legitimate heir | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
and I think that trumps you. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
John, escort this gentleman off the premises, would you? | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
Look, Jack. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
It fits and everything. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
-Yeah, I like it. -ENGINE SPLUTTERS | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
Feels just like my old coat. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
Fits perfectly. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
Even smells like it. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:54 | |
ENGINE SPLUTTERS | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
What's wrong? | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
I don't know. It won't start. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
I don't believe it! The battery's dead. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
It's all right, we'll take the Tube. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:10 | |
Taxi! | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
# It's all right | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
# It's OK | 0:58:16 | 0:58:17 | |
# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
# It's all right | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
# I say, it's OK | 0:58:21 | 0:58:22 | |
# Listen to what I say | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
# It's all right | 0:58:25 | 0:58:26 | |
# Doin' fine | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
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# We're getting to the end of the day. # | 0:58:33 | 0:58:35 | |
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