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It's nice. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
How did you find me? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
I called the station. I'm still down as next of kin. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Sometimes it helps to see if certain behaviours are linked to childhood. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
My dad was far from perfect but he did his best. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
I need to get back to work. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
You have to be comfortable with your counsellor, Will. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
I was just thinking of the first time I met him. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
He'd just shoplifted a bottle of cider. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
I'd say that lad's problems started a long time before you came along. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Why should I believe you? | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Because I want justice for your mum. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Who cares? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
-DISTORTED: -Mum! Mum! | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Mum! Talk to me, please? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Mum? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
What did you do to her? Look... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
-MAN: -It was accident, son! Are you listening to me? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
It was an accident. Are you listening? Can you hear me?! | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Mum! | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
Mum! Mum! Talk to me, please? | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-Slow day? -Just waiting for somebody. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
-Story of my life. -Story of my life an' all. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Hey, Gina, I brought that money in. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Ach, you shouldnae have bothered. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
I thought you had an important meeting? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
It's finished. I'm just grabbing a coffee before I head back. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
-What are you doing in here? -I was in yesterday with Callum, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
bought him an ice cream and forgot my purse. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
Who's in the salon? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
Next customer's no' due until half ten. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
So don't panic, I'm heading back now. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
I'll see you over there. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
Take your time. In fact, take ten minutes. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Next time you're in with Callum, the ice cream's on me, OK? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Thanks, Gina. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
WILL: 'Before I go to sleep, I've been having these strange thoughts. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
'They're not dreams, because I'm...I'm still awake.' | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Well...I'm lying on the edge of my bed...and I roll over. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:23 | |
But when I roll over, I'm rolling off a cliff. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
And then I'm falling, and falling, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
and it's miles and miles to the ground. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
And it feels... It feels real. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
What happens? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
It's strange because there's someone there. I can't make them out. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
But I can just feel them. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
And they could catch me if they want. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
They could... They could stop me falling. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
And do they? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
I don't know. I either wake up or fall asleep. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
I've just got this horrible, overwhelming feeling | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
all over my body. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:11 | |
Can you describe it? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
It's like I'm alone, there's nobody else around... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Alone, like I'll be when I die. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
And no-one to care either way. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
It's like I'm the loneliest man in the world. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
When we were kids, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
my dad never liked us having people back to the house. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
People? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
Friends. I didn't have a friend back to the house, not once. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:11 | |
Neither did my sister. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
If someone came to the door, we weren't to answer it. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Dad said that, er, friendships were only temporary, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
it's family that was permanent. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
But you didn't get to choose them. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
-Did your dad have people back? -No. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
He used to come home from work, make us dinner and then go to his room. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
And we'd go to ours. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Sorry, this probably isn't irrelevant. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
I'm so sorry, an incident came in at the last minute. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
I had to fill out a report, I'm really sorry. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
I've been here for over an hour. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
I know. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
I would have gone, but this needs to get sorted. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
You said you would deal with these. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
-I know. -We never got a delivery yesterday | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
because you haven't paid the last bill. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
I had to cancel two customers, because I don't have the right dye. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
I'll sort it today, I promise. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
It's gone beyond that, Will. I'm needing to pay Nicole. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
She hasn't had her wages this week. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
It's one thing treating me like this, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
but I can't have you doing it to Nicole or our customers. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Look, I've had a lot on. OK, I'll sort it, I promise. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
I manage the salon. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
Why can't I have control of the financial running of the place? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
It was so I could take some of the strain away, wasn't it? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
You're doing the opposite. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:40 | |
You still haven't dealt with | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
putting my name on the lease for the flat either. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
It's as if you don't want me | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
to have any control in making decisions for myself. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
That's not true. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
It would be nice if you could stop complicating our lives, please? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
I know you don't mean it, but you're still doing it. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Look, I want you to make all the decisions from now on. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
I won't let anything get in the way, I promise. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-If you're no' going to answer it, turn it off. -Sorry, it's work. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Of course it is. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
DC Cooper? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
OK. I'll be with you shortly. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
I'm sorry, Robbie, I've got to go. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
Sort out the salon. Make it a priority. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
I will do. I promise. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
Sir. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Any news on Petey? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
He's not in his room and apparently he's not been taking his medication. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
He's supposed to be giving evidence tomorrow? | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Yep. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
I suppose after what he's been through, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
his safety has to be a priority. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Have you spoken to him recently? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
No, I just left a couple of messages. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Keep on trying or else Dominic Roberts | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
might have someone else on his conscience. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
'Listen to me. It was an accident. Are you listening to me? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
'Can you hear me? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
'Phone an ambulance! | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
'I'll take care of this. Petey, listen to me! Listen to me. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
'I'll take care of it, eh? I'll take care of it - I always do. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
'Just me and you. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
'Don't go! Don't leave me, Dad! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
'Dad!' | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
It's me. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
Are you all right? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
Are you sure? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
What are you doing here anyway? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
I used to come here when I was wee. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
You had us all worried about you. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
I've been stuck in that room for weeks | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
and the pills they've been giving me have made me feel sick. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Maybe you should have told someone you were leaving. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Then they wouldn't have let me go. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Don't worry, I'm not thinking about doing anything stupid. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Glad to hear it. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
I can't eat, I can't sleep. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
I just wish I could disappear. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Look, you're going through a really tough time. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
You're bound to feel like this. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
I miss my mum. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
We used to come here. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
I miss the way we used to be. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
I know how it feels. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
I see her in my dreams. I see her when I'm awake. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
I...I see her, but... | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
..I just can't find her. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Great, I'll head there now. Thanks. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
Right, I got hold of her. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Now, are you absolutely sure what you've told me | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
isn't part of one of the dreams you've been having? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
I know the difference. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
OK, well, look, she's agreed to meet us at the recovery centre. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
I just want you to tell her exactly what you told me, all right? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Right, let's go. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Are you not finishing your food? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
Nah, I've lost my appetite. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
I'm seeing Gareth when I finish today. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Well, you know what I think. Just be careful. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
I'm making him something to eat, that's all. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
I still can't even believe he likes me. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
What do you mean by that? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Well... | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
me with a bump and everything. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Nicole, you're a wee smasher, and he's a lucky guy. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Just don't go rushing in, that's all I'm saying. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
I won't. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
Well, what are you waiting for then? You're finished. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
I'll just get my wages, then I'm out of here. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I can assure you, there is no temporary cash flow problem. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
It was an error. Thank you so much for your patience. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
You should get going. That's you done for the day. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
I'm really sorry to ask you this again, but can I have my wages? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Aw, Nicole, they're still not done. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Can I gie you this? It's 40 quid. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
I'll take it out your wages we're back on track. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
-No, I feel bad doing that. -It's no' you that should be feeling bad. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Away and enjoy your afternoon. What are you up to? | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Nothing much. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
-Thanks. -Bye, doll. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
What? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
That was a lovely thing you just did there. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
But next time you're giving away money, I'm first in the queue. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Petey, I want you to tell the Advocate Depute... | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Call me Linda, we're not in court now. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Tell Linda exactly what you told me | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
about the night your mother was killed. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
When I saw you the last time, I told you the truth. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
I told you what I remembered. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
Take your time. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
Well, I've remembered more... | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Bit by bit, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
it's all coming back to me, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
even all the stuff I wish I couldn't remember. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
This new evidence is believable? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
I believe him. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
He says he remembers seeing his dad | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
take his mum's pulse before he left. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
I just hope the jury believe him. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Me too. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
-DISTORTED: -'Mum! | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
'Mum! Talk to me, please? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
'Mum?' | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
FATHER SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
-'..you stupid slag! -Get off her! | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
'Bringing guys in the house!' | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
PETER'S PLEAS OVERLAP FATHER'S VOICE | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-'You're a slag. You're a slag. -Dad! -Listen to me. -Leave her alone! | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
'I told you, you're a slag...' | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
OVERLAPPING SHOUTING CONTINUES | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
-'Don't do this to her, please? -Yeah?! | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-MOTHER: -'Petey, don't! Petey, don't! Leave it, Petey! | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
'Petey, no! Don't, Petey! Just leave it! | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
'Petey, no!' | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
PETEY'S MOTHER'S ANGUISHED SHOUTS ECHO AND FADE | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
I told him he didn't have to stay over. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
There you go. He must have wanted to, that means quite a lot. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Great. Thanks! | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
Wonders will never cease. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
-What? -Will's sorted some of the problems out. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
The bills are paid, so we're getting our stuff delivered. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Does that mean I can get my wages? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
Have you still not been paid? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
He forgot to put it into the account and it's still not in yet. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
Well, you'd better tell him to get his finger out | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
and get this lassie's wages sorted. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
What does he think this is, a charity(?) | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
PRESS FIRE QUESTIONS | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Petey, come on, mate. It's fine. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
All right, that's enough. That's enough, thanks. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I know these places can be scary | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
when you're not used to them, but you'll be fine. I promise. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-Where's my dad? -He's in a holding cell underneath the court. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
What if he goes for me? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
What if he jumps over the barrier to try and get me? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
He won't, he won't do anything. Come on, you'll be fine. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:06 | |
I call Crown witness number 15, Peter David Roberts. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:28 | |
Crown witness number 15, My Lord, Peter David Roberts. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
Raise your right hand and repeat after me. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
I swear by Almighty God... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
I swear by Almighty God... | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
..that I will tell the truth... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
..that I will tell the truth... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
-..the whole truth... -..the whole truth... | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
-..and nothing but the truth. -..and nothing but the truth. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
Did you witness any violent behaviour from your father | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
to you or your mother, in the months leading up to the incident? | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Could you tell us, please, for the record? | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
Yes...but it wasn't any more than any other normal family. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:46 | |
What wasn't? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
My dad was violent towards me, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
but only when he felt I'd done something wrong. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Can you give me an example? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I was meant to tell my dad if anyone ever came round to the house | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
to see my mum when he wasn't there. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
And? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
Well when the guy came round to fix the boiler, I forgot to tell him, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
so he...punished me. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
How did he punish you? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
PETEY SIGHS | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
He took my trousers down and hit me with his belt. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:26 | |
What age were you when this took place? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
15. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
Who told you this was no more than happened in any NORMAL family? | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
My dad. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Did he ever try to excuse these incidents? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
He told us that he loved us, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
but there were times we made him so angry. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
The more frightened that she got... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
..the angrier it made him. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
Who are you referring to, Peter? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
My mum. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
On the night your mother was killed, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
was your father violent towards you or your mother? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
HE SOBS | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Take your time. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
He started on at me about my...behaviour at school. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
I answered him back. I shouldn't have. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
Then what? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
He went for me. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
He pulled my hair and pushed me up against the wall. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
I grabbed his hands. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Go on. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Then he hit her a hard one on her left cheek. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
She stepped back, as if she was half expecting it. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
Then he hit her again...and again. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
He hit her so hard, that she lost her balance. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
she fell down and she hit her head off the radiator. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
All the blood, it spread over the wall and... | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
I saw the blood on his face as he...pulled her up by the hair. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:56 | |
He looked at me and then he hit her again. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
He didn't need to do that. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
What happened next? And, please, tell us exactly what happened. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:17 | |
I remember my dad leaning over her and taking her pulse. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
He took his jumper off and...wiped his face. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Please continue. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
He told me it was an accident. He was crying. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
He told me to phone an ambulance once he had gone. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
He said he would take care of me. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
He said he would always take care of me. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Did your father leave the house after that? | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
Yes. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
One final question, Peter. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
Had your mother recently started to see a new boyfriend? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
-Yes. -That's a lie. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Another word from you, Mr Roberts, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
and I'll hold you in contempt of court. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
You'll hear the rest of this trial from your cell, do you understand? | 0:26:37 | 0:26:43 | |
Sorry, My Lord. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
You may proceed. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
What did you think of her boyfriend? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
He was nice. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
He was nice to her. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 | |
She seemed really happy. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:01 | |
I have nothing further. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
I'm looking at your police statement here, Mr Roberts. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Or should I say statements? | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Which version would you like us to believe? | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Objection, My Lord. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
My Lord, I'm merely registering a statement of fact. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
And I'm trying to ascertain which version of the truth, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
from the ones I have in front of me, is in fact the whole truth | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
and nothing but the truth. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
I'll allow. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
May I approach the witness, My Lord? It may save the court time | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
if he can show me which version is which. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
You may proceed, Mr Stewart. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
I'll repeat the question, Mr Roberts. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
Which version would you like us to believe? | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
I...don't know. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
Well, is it the one in which you admit to killing your own mother? | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
Or is it the one where you say it was a tragic accident? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
Or is it the one that you've testified to in court today? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
It's the one I've just testified to. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Could you tell me why | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
your statements differ so significantly, Mr Roberts? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
I didn't want my dad to go to jail. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Sorry, could you explain that to me? | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
I gave my first statement because I didn't want my dad to go to jail. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
So, in other words you knew you were lying? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Yes. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
Can you tell me why are there such significant differences between | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
your second statement and what you have testified to in court today? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
I kept remembering more and more details. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Well, you've admitted to lying before. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
How do I know you're not lying now? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
Objection. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Sustained. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
I'm telling the truth. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
Did you ever see your mother hit your father? | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
Yes, but only in self-defence. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
Well, I'm not asking your opinion on why she did it. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
I'm asking you, did you ever see your mother hit your father? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
Yes, I did. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
And have you ever been violent towards your father? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
Yes, but only in defence. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Did you recently assault a teacher in your school | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
-by throwing a chair at her? -Yes. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
And were you defending yourself on that occasion? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
No. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
And was there any action taken regarding the incident? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
I was arrested and charged with assault. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
And when did this happen? | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
A while ago. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
When exactly did it happen? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
On the day that my mother was killed. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
Did you cause substantial damage | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
to the residential care home you were sent to? | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
Yes. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:46 | |
And are the injuries that are clearly still so visible on you | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
self-inflicted? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
Yes. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
Were you present in the room when your mother was killed? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
-Yes. -When the police arrived at the scene, did your clothes have | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
significant amounts of your mother's blood on them? | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Yes. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:02 | |
And did you move your mother's body from the scene of the crime | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
to another room in the house? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
Yes. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
So, your mother was still alive when you moved her? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
I thought she was dead but I tried to wake her. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
You say you thought she was dead. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Did you think that at the time, or did you find it out later? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
I thought that then. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
You've admitted to lying, Mr Roberts. Are you lying now? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
No. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
Have you recently been receiving treatment in a hospital? | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
Yes. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
And did you intend to kill yourself? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Yes. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
And are you receiving treatment as a result of this? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Yes. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Was your father present at the scene when the police arrived? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
No. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Did you ever hear your father tell you that your mother was dead? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
No. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
Finally, do you feel guilty about the death of your mother? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
Objection, how Peter Roberts feels is not pertinent to this case. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:02 | |
Yes, I feel guilty for my mother's death. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
It was my fault. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I have nothing further. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
All those questions, they were just trying to make me sound mad. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
Your evidence was strong, that's all that matters. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
How did they know about the jump? He must have told them. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
It was in the papers, Petey. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
My dad planned those questions. He doesn't care who gets hurt. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
Well, I watched the jury. They believed you. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Why didn't I stop him? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
Petey, you're just a kid, it's not your fault, OK? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
What's he going to say about my mum? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Don't let him bother you. | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
I'm telling the truth. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
I know you are and you know what, there's at least one other person | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
in that court that knows you're telling the truth as well. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
-Who? -Your dad. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Yep, no problem. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
That's the next two cancelled, one's got a burst boiler | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
and the other one's got a mad rash! | 0:32:30 | 0:32:31 | |
Just when he's actually sorted the place out as well. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
-Does that mean the wages are done? -I'm doing them this afternoon. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Well, is there any chance I can go home early? I'm not feeling great. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
See the next time you're no' feeling great, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
-will you just phone and let us know. -You should go home, take it easy. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
It's no' as if I've been paying you wages anyway. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-I'll pop by with them later on. -Thanks. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Hello. Yes, speaking. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
What? | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
Yeah, aye, I'll get in touch with him | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
and get back to you as soon as I can. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
Right, OK. Thanks. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
What is it? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
Will's dad's had a stroke. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
Raise your right hand and repeat after me. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
I swear by Almighty God... | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
I swear by Almighty God... | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
-..that I will tell the truth... -..that I will tell the truth... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
-..the whole truth... -..the whole truth... | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
..and nothing but the truth. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
..and nothing but the truth. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
How would you describe your relationship with your late wife? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
Well, we loved each other, there's no question about that, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
but sometimes that love could manifest itself in strange ways. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
Could you elaborate? | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
She was a very different woman with a drink in her for example, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
always jealous. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
We had an extremely passionate relationship, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
but often we ended up grabbing at each other. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
Occasionally it resulted in a slap, mostly from her to me, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
I have to say. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
Was there a time when you raised your hand to her? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
It was always in self-defence though but I'm not proud of it. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
She used to be apologising to me constantly, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
saying it was her fault, it was her that made me do it. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
Did you love your wife? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:26 | |
Yeah. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
I miss her. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
She was my soul mate. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
If she'd only been able to control her jealousy, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
we'd have had the perfect relationship. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Your wife was jealous? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
I couldn't get annoyed at her, she did it through love. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
Always wanting to know who I was with, where I was. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Would you like a couple of minutes? | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
No... No. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Can you tell me what happened later that day? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
I was in the pub to watch the game, when I met another parent. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
that told me Petey had been arrested. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
And what was your reaction when you heard that news? | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
I had a bad feeling about it. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
I'd seen Petey being aggressive many times before. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
I begged for him to stop, but he didn't. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
In the struggle, I slapped my wife to try and bring her to her senses. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
She tripped and fell. It was an accident. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
And what happened then? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
Petey was hysterical, he screamed for me to get out. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
And did you? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
I was making Petey worse by staying. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
I did what I thought was best. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Your wife was still alive when you left? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Yeah, yeah, she was. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
You made a statement to the police accepting | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
responsibility for your wife's tragic death. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
I wanted to protect my son. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
What father wouldn't? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
It was a horrible accident. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
I have nothing further at this time. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
That was big of you, trying to protect your son. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
He's my son and I love him. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
You slapped your wife to calm her down you said. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
Yeah, I did. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Karen Roberts sustained a broken left cheekbone, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
perforated eardrum and suffered traumatic cranial haemorrhaging. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:09 | |
Did she calm down, do you think? | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
-Objection. -Sustained. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
I'll withdraw the question. You say you wanted to protect your son. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
I did. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
So, let me get this straight, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
you slapped your wife to calm her down, she lost her balance | 0:37:25 | 0:37:31 | |
and struck her head on the radiator. Correct? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
Your son testified to seeing blood splatter from his mother's head | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
on the wall, over your face. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
He did. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
A contact lens belonging to you was found at the scene of the crime. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:52 | |
For the record, I refer to Crown label number 22. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
I could have dropped that any time. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
I didn't even have them in that night. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
Were you wearing glasses? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
No. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:15 | |
So, you were at a pub to watch a football match | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
without your glasses and not wearing any contact lenses. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
Maybe you should have stayed home and listened on the radio. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
JUDGE CLEARS THROAT | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
Your contact lens, which was recovered from the scene, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
was found with blood splatter on it. Can you explain how that happened? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
Objection, my client has already stated that he could have | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
dropped the contact lens at any time. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Is he also being forced to speculate upon | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
-how blood could have been found upon it? -Sustained. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
I'll rephrase. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:55 | |
Your contact lens was found with blood splatter on it, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
which could only have come from an upward trajectory. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Meaning the contact lens was ABOVE the victim | 0:39:06 | 0:39:12 | |
when the blood splattered on it. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
If the lens wasn't in your eye, how was it above the victim? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
Maybe it had fallen on to the radiator and then fallen off later? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Finally, what did your wife say? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
What? | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
What did Karen Roberts say to you as you were leaving? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
She... She didn't say anything. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Why? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:41 | |
Because she was unconscious. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
Unconscious? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
So you left your unconscious wife with a 16-year-old boy, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
and made yourself scarce. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
It's what Petey wanted. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
You could have tried to help your wife, but you didn't. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
You could have phoned for an ambulance, but you didn't. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
You went back to the pub to watch a football match, didn't you? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
Did your team win? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
You're twisting everything. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
Who are you, Mr Roberts? | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
The doting father, willing to take the blame for his boy? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:22 | |
The grieving husband who's lost his wife in a tragic accident? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:29 | |
Or the man who ran away after killing his wife, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
as she lay in the arms of his 16-year-old son? | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
Because YOU had taken her pulse... | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
..and already knew that she was dead. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
How long until the verdict? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
No idea. I've given up trying to work juries out. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
What do you think? | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
It's too tough to call, that's the honest answer. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
I keep just thinking about how much of a waste it all is. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
A year ago I had a family, look at me now. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
My mum had this green dress that she wore on special occasions. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
He burned holes in it with a lighter, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
she couldn't wear it any more. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
Stop trying to understand why he did it. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
To be honest, I hope you never do. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Why couldn't he have just been an ordinary guy? | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
That's the jury heading back in. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-See you next week. -Thank you. -Thanks. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Come on, Will, answer your phone. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Look, if he's in the court, his phone will be switched off. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
He'll never forgive himself if he doesn't get there. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
Calm down, there's nothing you can do than what you're doing. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
Hi there. Come over. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
Members of the jury, will your spokesperson please stand. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
-Have you reached your verdict? -We have. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
What is your verdict in respect of the accused - | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
Dominic William Roberts - on the charge on the indictment? | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
Guilty. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:17 | |
Is that guilty of murder as libelled? | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
Yes. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
Is your verdict unanimous, or by a majority? | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
Unanimous. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:26 | |
Thank you. Please be seated as I record your verdict. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
Members of the jury, is your verdict correctly recorded as follows? | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
"The jury unanimously find the accused, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
"Dominic William Roberts, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
"guilty as libelled of the charge on the indictment, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
"that being the charge of murder." | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Thank you. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:52 | |
My Lord, I move for sentence. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
Do you have any mitigations, Mr Stewart? | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
I have nothing to add in mitigation, My Lord. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
Mr Roberts. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:08 | |
Dominic William Roberts, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
you have been found guilty of an appalling crime. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
You arrived at your wife's home intent on having a confrontation. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:24 | |
But nothing can excuse or justify what followed. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
You chose to inflict violent blows on a defenceless woman | 0:44:28 | 0:44:34 | |
resulting in her dreadful death, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
in front of the eyes of your very own son. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
The terror and fear inflicted on Peter Roberts | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
can hardly be imagined, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
and the bravery of his testimony is commended to this court. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:55 | |
One can only hope that you will have plenty time to consider | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
your actions and reflect on an innocent victim for whom | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
you have shown not a FLICKER of remorse. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
You have been found guilty of the crime of murder, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
for which you must serve a term of life imprisonment, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:22 | |
of which 15 years must be served | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
before you will be considered for parole. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
Take him down. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:29 | |
I love you, Petey. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
I'll be out of the recovery centre in a couple of weeks. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
Where will I go then? | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
I think they're going to find some temporary foster care for you, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
until you're better. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Can't I come and stay with you? | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
-Aw, mate, that wouldn't be possible. -Why not? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
Well, because I live on my own and I'm a serving police officer. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
My shift patterns alone would mean I'm not suitable. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
I wouldn't be any trouble. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
Aw, mate, I know. It's not a question of that. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
You wouldn't notice me like. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
I'm sorry, mate, it's not possible. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
I meant to talk to you about it the other day. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
But you know you say that you still see your mum in your dreams? | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
That's a good thing. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
Do you see yours? | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Yeah, I mean, I've forgotten to look for her of late, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
but I still see her. Yeah. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
Almost forgot, I thought you might want these. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
England versus Scotland. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
Yep. They're playing at Wembley in August, first time in ages. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
These are like...gold dust. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
I thought you could hold on to them | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
and we could plan a trip down to London together. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
Brilliant. Thanks. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
Who will you be supporting? | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
England. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
-I'm not going in the England end. -Yeah, they're for the Scotland end. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
Don't worry, I'll have to do my best Scottish accent. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
Right, come on. Let's go. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:26 | |
-And now what? -Sorry? | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Petey, he gave his evidence, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
helped put his father away for a very long time, what happens to him now? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
You say cheerio and good luck. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
You did your job, and he did his. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
It doesn't feel right just to walk away. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
Am I missing something? | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
I feel responsible for him. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
You helped convict his mother's killer, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
because that's what you're paid to do. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
You're not responsible for Petey Roberts. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
Then who is? | 0:49:22 | 0:49:23 | |
Oh, boy. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:24 | |
You get too involved in this you're gonnae have to jack it in. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
You do the bit you're supposed to, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
then get on with the rest of your job. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
DCI Donald. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:34 | |
Hi there. Yeah, hold on. It's for you, it's Robbie. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
Hello? | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
Thank you so much for coming. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
I couldn't see you at the office after I'd had a glass of wine. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
Petey's father got found guilty of murder. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
Well, that's good, isn't it? | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
That kid was brave, facing up to what he feared the most. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
You admired that? | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
I did. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
Maybe even helped him to do that? | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
I think I'm very good at telling people what to do. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
I just sat in that court | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
and all I could think of was how much of an animal the father was. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
And that he wasn't much more different from me. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
How so? | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
He's an abuser, and so am I. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
He attacked her, humiliated her, dominated, betrayed her and bullied. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
I did all those things. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
How did that make you feel? | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
Like a... Like a hypocrite. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
Do you remember when we were talking about triggers | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
that might ignite your behaviour? | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
Did any of those come to mind when you were sat in that court? | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
Yeah. Yeah, they did. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
Can we discuss that? | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:51:47 | 0:51:48 | |
I told you when my father came home from work, | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
he used to make us dinner and then go to his room. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
Yes, you did. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
I remembered why. | 0:51:58 | 0:51:59 | |
Why was that? | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
Because we lost Mum. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
He was fine before she died and if he wasn't, she used to sort him out. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
He used to go up to his room and cry. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
Me and my sister used to hear him sobbing. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
He did it every night for years. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
How did that make you feel? | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
I hardly noticed it. After a while, I got used to it. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
The thing is, he never stopped me bringing my friends back, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
I didn't want to bring them back. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
He embarrassed you? | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
No, he annoyed me. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:50 | |
He had me and my sister to look after, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:54 | |
all he cared about was his own feelings. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
Did your family ever talk about your mum? | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
No. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
She annoyed me too. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Why? | 0:53:06 | 0:53:07 | |
Because she left. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
She didn't choose to leave. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
I know, I was just a kid. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
Were you close to your mum? | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
She knew about me. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
She said my sexuality was my own business. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
She said she'd speak to my dad but...she never did. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
Is it possible that your father was so overwhelmed with grief that | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
that's why he behaved the way he did towards you? | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
HE SNIFFLES | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
All I know is that I allowed him to treat me like that all my life. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:10 | |
I was... I'm angry at him, but I'm more angry with myself. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:17 | |
And your mum? | 0:54:19 | 0:54:20 | |
Sometimes I still see her, when I least expect it. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
I see her but I can't find her. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
-Pedro? -Where's Kennedy? | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
He's no' coming. Change of plan, I'm looking after things now. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
I only deal with Kennedy. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:15 | |
Not any more. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
I've met a boy that I like, and who likes me. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
Can you no' just be happy? | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
Just be careful. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
-I need her gone. -Who? | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
The wee lassie that went running to the police. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
I don't want anybody else knowing about this. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
Especially Murdoch. I want this job done proper. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
So you'll need the right tools for the job. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
Aye, you're doing well. I can trust you. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
Which is more than I can say for a lot of them. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
'Hello?' | 0:56:40 | 0:56:41 | |
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