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Love crime fiction? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Always able to pick the murderer before the final chapter? | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
Then you're in the right place. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
Welcome to the TV show with only one question - whodunnit? | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Welcome to Armchair Detectives, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
the show where these 15 murder mystery enthusiasts | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
will try and solve a | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
deadly crime by the end of today's programme. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Our studio detectives are placed at the centre of a crime scene, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
set in the fictional village of Mortcliff. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
It's the place with the highest murder rate in Britain! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
They'll watch the drama play out | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
as Mortcliff's favourite police officers try to crack the crime. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
There they are. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
DI Knight, DC Slater | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
and Scene Of Crime Officer Simmons. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
I'm curious about their lives, I'll be honest with you. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Before we had to Mortcliff for the first time, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
let's meet today's Armchair Detectives. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Hello, Armchair Detectives. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
-ALL: -Hi! | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
Oh, you're always so bright and breezy and up for it. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Now only three of you can play each day, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
so please take your armchairs, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Simon, Bola and Charley. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Come on up. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
So, Simon, tell me, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
what do you do when you're not playing Armchair Detectives? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Well, Susan, I'm a tour guide. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Oh, lovely. Are you looking forward to today, Simon? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Oh, can't wait. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
Oh, he's rubbing his hands with glee. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
Bola, welcome. What do you do when | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
you're not being an Armchair Detective? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
So I'm a business consultant. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
Are you going to be a leader of the Armchair Detectives? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Yeah, but I reckon we're going to work as a team first and foremost, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
but absolutely, I'll be getting my point across! | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Ooh! Charley, now I hear your | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
partner's also an Armchair Detective. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
-She is indeed. -Where? -That's Laura, sitting over there. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
Hi, Laura. And so, who usually picks out the murderer? | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
I've got a little bit of a cheat on this one, because | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
I was a detective for the Metropolitan Police | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
for nearly ten years. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
-Oh, aye, here we are! -Yeah. -Here we go. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
Well, let's see if that helps you at all, Charley! | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
If any of these guys guess the killer, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
then this is what they're going to win. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
That's right, it's the Armchair Detectives | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Golden magnifying glass. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
-ALL: -Ooh! | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
Now, just to let you know, Armchair Detectives, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
I have no idea who the killer is either, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
so I'm going to be playing along with you all as well. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
Let's begin, as it's time for round one, the Crime Scene. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Notepads at the ready for the first time today. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Let's head over to Bay Cliffs in Mortcliff. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
What did the seagull say to the police officer? | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Now, now, Simmons, it's be kind to the DC day. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
-I'm working on my own today. -Right. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Well, we have a fall victim. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
We've seen far too many of these over the last year or two. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
That's the fifth around the same spot. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
Who is the victim? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
Jemma Hall. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
Broken bones and internal injuries consistent with a long fall. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
Her boyfriend's just over there. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-Thanks, Simmons. -Cheers, Simmons. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Jemma and I were walking across the top of the cliff about an hour ago. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
We were here to meet an old school friend of Jemma's | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
who'd recently been in touch. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
We were here early and I needed the toilet. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
I went off to find a bush. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
It was right after that that I heard the scream. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Did you notice anything else? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
I heard someone running. I thought it was Jemma. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
When I came back to the path, she wasn't there. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
I looked over and saw her lying at the bottom of the cliff. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
I dialled 999 and ran down the steps but... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
..she was already dead. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
We're very sorry for your loss, Dale. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Is there anything else that you can tell us | 0:03:59 | 0:04:00 | |
that may be of some importance? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
She was a happy person. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
We wanted to get married. There's no way this was suicide. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Can you show me where that bush is? | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
It's a big bush by the blocks over there. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Is everything OK? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:17 | |
There's been a fatality. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
How long have you been in the area today, sir? | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
I've only just arrived for my walk. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
I do so every day. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
Have you noticed anything unusual? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Nope. This seems to be quite the hot spot for jumpers these days. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
How long did you say you've been walking in the area today, sir? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Maybe just under half an hour. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
I didn't do it, if that's what you're thinking. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I have a tracker on my phone. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
-I can show you. -Why have you got a tracker? | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
It tells me how far I've walked and exactly where I've been. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
I like to track my hikes. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
OK. We'll need the data off that. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
I'll take your details. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:58 | |
What's your name? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
McBride. Hamish McBride. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
No fencing or barriers. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
There are warning signs, though. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
How long do you think this path runs for? | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Looking at the erosion, it probably changes all the time. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
Look at that, sir. Phone. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
I'll get Simmons. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Oh, and I want that bush tested. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
The one Dale says he urinated behind, just to be sure. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
Sure. But we only have his version of events. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
He could have easily pushed her over. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
Thank you, sir. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
Least I can do, Slater. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Four hits, sir. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
You'll have to elaborate. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
After what Simmons said, I searched for the deaths during the | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
past year within a mile of the cliffs. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Four hits came back, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
not including Jemma Hall. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
All of them had fallen from the very same cliff. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
David Parkin, 55, from Parryvale, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Liana Scofield, 24 from Mortcliff. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
Lewis Murphy, 35 and | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Liam Clarke, also 35 from Mortcliff. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Any connection between the victims? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Well, three years ago, they all served on the same jury together. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
A man called Brendan Wilson was charged - convicted, too - for fraud. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
Got six years for it. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
He died in prison. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
I spoke to an officer who interviewed Jemma's parents. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Jemma's father said that she'd | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
become friends with another juror | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
and that they died at the same place. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
The Procurator Fiscal has already | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
given us special permission to see the full juror list. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Looks like someone wasn't happy with the verdict. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Any of the other jurors live in the local area? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
-Yeah, three. -OK. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Let's get them in for questioning, right away. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
-Well. -Ooh! | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
Audible gasps from the Armchair Detectives. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
The killer's fast. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
I think he's actually quite young, athletic, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
because if the boyfriend went behind the bush, quickly run up, push, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
quickly leg it back. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
I'm possibly erring on somebody on the same jury | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
that could have been the murderer. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
But that's just my initial views. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-OK. -Yeah. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
Well, today we are investigating the death of Jemma Hall. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
She was 25, and a barmaid. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Jemma's boyfriend was Dale Coleman. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
The cause of death is a suspected fall from a height, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
causing fatal internal injury to Jemma's vital organs. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
The time of death is approximately 10am. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
With the boyfriend, you know, what was her relationship like? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
If she's in a bar every single day with people cracking onto her, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
was he the jealous type? Was he not? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
She... I don't think she was that important to the killer. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
There was no hardly planning involved, you know. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
You push someone, it is literally a five-second split. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
OK. We have Dale Coleman, who is the boyfriend, and Hamish McBride, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
who was in the area when the victim died. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
Now we haven't really spoken about Hamish. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
He's got quite quick with the explanation about the tracker. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
If someone volunteers information, then I'm automatically suspicious. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
It's the ABCs. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
Assume nothing, believe no-one and challenge everyone. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
OK, so each round, you'll get to pick | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
evidence to interrogate more closely. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Here's a piece to start you off. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
And we have a map of the Bay Cliff area. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Marked on this map are locations | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
where the previous victims fell from the cliffs, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
including Jemma. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
So quite close in proximity. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Could it be a meeting point, if they were all friends? | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
Did they often walk there together? | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
So that's where my head's at at the moment. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
If they have all been lured to this location, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
is it of grave significance to whoever is killing them? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Personally, I think we're dealing with a psychopath right here. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Honestly, I think we're actually dealing | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
with a full-blown psychopath. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
Straight in! OK, well, it's time now for round two, last movements. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:03 | |
We'll see what happened in | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
the fateful final moments before Jemma Hall's death. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Notepads at the ready. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Let's head back to the Bay Cliffs, Mortcliff. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
You're always on that phone. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
Can't you take your eyes off it for a second? | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Don't be so miserable. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
It's just photos. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
Can't you just enjoy a nice sea walk? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
I can think of better things to be doing. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Come here. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
Smile! | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
That's lovely. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
PHONE BUZZES | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
Who's that? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
Nothing, just work. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
I need the toilet. Be right back. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
OK, well, don't be long. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
Fiona'll be here soon. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
SCREAMING | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
-ALL: -Oooh! | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
Well! Oh, well, well! | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
So first of all, I'd love to see that picture that she took. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
The selfie of the two of them, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
cos maybe it could show somebody in the background. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Secondly, he's a bit jealous. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
He's not liking her being on her phone, but then | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
he got a message and wouldn't reveal to her who it was. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
I'd like to see what that message was, as well. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
People put things into their phone that they won't tell their barman or | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
their priest, so I think phones | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
will give you the insight to somebody's life. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
Without fail. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
Yeah. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Well, let's take another look at the suspects board. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
We have Dale Coleman, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and Hamish McBride. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
I'm quite sceptical of Dale, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
from him saying that he was behind | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
the bush and he heard somebody running off. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
Now, when the detectives were up there, it was quite noisy, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
quite windy and some distance, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
so I'd find it difficult to believe he heard somebody running. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
OK, let's crack on. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
You can have an evidence pick now | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
and it's one from the following list. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
You need to decide amongst | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
yourselves as a group which one you're going for. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
We have the data from Hamish's health tracker app, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
or a letter to the victim and finally, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
the last selfie of the couple before Jemma's death. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
I know, I know, I know. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
The last photo we've always thought, "Ooh, that looks a bit fun," | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
but this letter is something we know nothing about. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
I'm heading towards the letter at this moment in time. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
I'm heading towards the letter as well. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
-OK, the letter, I think. -The letter. Thank you. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-You want to see the letter? -Please. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
So we can reveal the letter sent to the victim claiming to know them, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
so it says, "Hi, Jemma. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
"I've just discovered your address through Ruth Potter. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
"I'm Fiona Williams. Remember me? | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
"It's been ages since we were at school together. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
"How are you? I walk the dogs every Thursday from 10am at Bay Cliffs. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
"Fancy meeting next week?" | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Who's Ruth and why are you giving out people's addresses? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
You know, it's 2017. You've got Facebook and everything else. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
-Yeah. -I'm sure they could get in contact by other ways. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
-Yeah. -Don't believe it. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
I mean, if they were living in the same town, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
you know, surely they, you know, see each other. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
As it's quite a small town. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
You know, it's, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
"Come down to the murder cliffs so I can totally not murder you." | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
It's... Yeah, wildly, wildly suspicious. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Well, Armchair Detectives, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
it's prime suspect time. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Write down the name now of who you think the prime suspect is. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
OK, time is up. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
Notepads away, please, Armchair Detectives. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
-Simon. -Hamish. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
Hamish, why? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
I think there's a past life he's trying to get away from, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
maybe he's going back to his old deeds again. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Maybe. Bola, who do you think? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
I've gone for Dale. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
At the moment, based on the evidence I've got, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
he's my prime suspect. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
-Yeah. -And Charley? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
I bring in the boyfriend on basic principle at this stage. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
-Yes. -He's there. He is convenient. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
Let's find out what he knows. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
OK, well, now, it's on to round three, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
which is the Police Interviews. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Knight and Slater widen their search for who the suspects might be. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Notepads at the ready. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
It's off to Mortcliff Police Station. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
You no longer live in Mortcliff. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
After we got married, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
we had some trouble from a neighbour so we moved. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
What was the issue with your neighbour? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
Our neighbour was anti-gay. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Yes, I notice... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:12 | |
..you reported a couple of incidents. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Can you tell us about the Brendan Wilson trial? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
I'll say this. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
I didn't like Brendan Wilson. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
He was angry, abusive and homophobic. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
But I don't know if he did it. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Why's that? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
I didn't think the evidence was strong enough to convict him. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
I didn't want to send the chap down if I wasn't sure. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
Did you know Jemma Hall before the trial? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
I didn't really get to know her during it either, why would I? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
And subsequent to the trial? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
No. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
Did you know that her parents were your homophobic neighbours? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
Mr Hall, her father, was quite vitriolic | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
towards both you and your partner. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
That can't have been very pleasant. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
It is a bit of a coincidence that you were right there. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Did you know Jemma's parents were your neighbours? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Yes, I did. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
Well, my gut instinct told me he was 100% guilty. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
I always listen to my gut. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Never trust a person who cannot make up their own mind. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
There was a huge difference in opinion. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Well, half of us said he was guilty | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
and the other half believed he was innocent. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
But you're not allowed to reveal the details | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
of confidential juror discussions. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
We spoke about it all over the place. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Not only during deliberations. Well, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
there was a fair bit of lobbying from both sides, if I'm honest. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Too much chitchat and not enough action. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
But in the end, we only deliberated for a day. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Well, so not that long, then. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
The facts spoke for themselves. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
I was never in any doubt. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
The only issue was - | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
and this didn't speak to Brendan's guilt or his innocence - | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
but I maintain his brother James | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
played a bigger role than he said he did. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
What was Brendan like? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
Brendan didn't strike me as a very nice man, either. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
It's no loss he died in prison. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
That will save the taxpayer a few coppers! | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
How do you know he's dead? | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
I remember hearing about it on the news about a year ago. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:28 | |
Yeah, I remember reading about it and watching it on the news. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Miss Donaldson, could you tell us about the trial of Brendan Wilson? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Brendan was convicted on flimsy evidence given by his brother. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
I can tell you right now it was James | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
who masterminded the whole thing. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
D'you know the Bay Cliff area? | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
I've been receiving some letters from Fiona Williams. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
The last letter was last week to meet her at Bay Cliff. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
But I haven't been able to go because... | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Well, because I've been having chemotherapy recently and... | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
..my energy isn't good at the best of times. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
I'm sorry to hear that. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Yeah. I was diagnosed with leukaemia recently. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
I'm just taking it day by day. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Who is Fiona Williams? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
Ah, this is fantastic. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
We actually have a murderer who is posing as another person. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Two letters in just a short period of time from Fiona, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
saying meet at this one place. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
It's brilliant, it's absolutely brilliant. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
Charley. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
Well, I want to know a lot more about our last young lady | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
who was Margaret Donaldson, because... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
..frankly, the chemotherapy is a very nice kind of cover. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Everyone's volunteering a lot of information to the police, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
-aren't they? -So very convenient. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
So we have more suspects to add. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:58 | |
We now have Dale Coleman, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Hamish McBride, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
we also have Donna Atkins, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
who was a jury member, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
Margaret Donaldson, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
who was a jury member | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
and James Wilson who we've not met yet but who has been referred to. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
There's something not right about Donna. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
She's a very... | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
Seems like a very vicious kind of woman. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
When she said there was a lot of talking but not enough action. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
-Yes. -She looked really serious, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
as if to say, action needed to be taken. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
Donna doesn't have the motive to enact revenge upon the jury, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
because she got what she wanted. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
I think it's got something to do with the opposing sides here. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Probably need to jot down who's on which side here | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
to maybe work it out a little bit. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah, that's where I'm at. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Well, once again you can pick a piece of evidence | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
and we've added a new one to the list. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
So you can have the data from Hamish's health tracker app, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
or the last selfie of the couple | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
before Jemma's death, and the new piece of evidence is letters sent to | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
Margaret Donaldson. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
If we have the letter and there is a match, but... | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
Then again, there might be something in the last picture. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
I've a feeling we can collect dozens of letters in the same handwriting | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
all from Fiona Williams to each juror, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
unless it was a different handwriting, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
it wouldn't move us any further forward. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
I'm edging towards the photo. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
I want to see if any of the suspects, cos it's widened out, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
are in that photo. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-Absolutely. -That's what I want to go for. -Yeah. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Well spoken there, I think. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
So you've chosen the last photo of the couple. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
It's a selfie by Jemma of herself and her boyfriend Dale. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
The photo was taken on the Bay Cliffs | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
and uploaded onto Jemma's social media shortly before her death. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
Back left, bald head. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
It's a bit of orange or it's a bald head. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
We don't know whether James Wilson has hair or not. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
-Right. -We don't... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
We've got Hamish McBride, is bald. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Whatever, though, we have a few hiding places. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
-Yeah. -We have about five. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
You could put a platoon in there, for heaven's sake. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
It's time to write down your prime suspect again. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
The suspects are Dale, Hamish, Donna, Margaret, and James. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
Time's up. Notepads away. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
Armchair Detectives, please. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Simon, last time you picked Hamish. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
Have you changed your mind? | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
No, I'm sticking with him. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Good. Bola? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
Last time, you went for Dale. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-Yeah. -Have you changed your mind? -Possibly a crime of passion so, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
yeah, I'm sticking with Dale. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
OK, and Charley, last time you went for Dale. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Indeed I did. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
-Have you changed your mind? -I have gone for Margaret. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
-Why? -We have the little bald head in the last photograph round the back. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
Hamish is a nice obvious bald guy | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
and she's in the middle of chemotherapy | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
which no-one's going to think of, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
so I feel like a bit of a monster for suggesting it, but... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
OK, it's time for round four, Dig Deeper. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
Let's head to Mortcliff Courthouse | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
three years earlier to find out more. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
I know which way I'm going to vote. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
It's very clear who's at fault here. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Did you see him wink at me during the closing? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
I'm sure he was flirting with me. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
He actually pointed to his ring finger, as well! | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
I'm just glad the postcard sent to Brendan didn't cause a mistrial. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
That would have been a waste of our time. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
I wonder who sent it. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Right. As foreman of the jury, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
it is my duty to guide our deliberations today. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
He allegedly defrauded 30 people, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
mostly pensioners, of over £800,000 by getting them to invest in him and | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
his brother's business. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
The company was in James Wilson's name. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
Why is Brendan Wilson the primary perpetrator | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
when it was his brother's company? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
It makes no sense. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
Brendan clearly pressurised the vulnerable | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
into parting with their money. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Yes, but so did his brother at his own admission. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Brendan set up all the relationships. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
He did all the persuading and then the paperwork. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
According to his brother, who is clearly untrustworthy. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
My gut instinct tells me that Brendan... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Yeah, can we focus on the evidence, please? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Right, where'd you think the money went? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Only 100,000 went to the banks. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
Look, I just keep thinking, you know, in a few years' time, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
that could be me. Like, I would look at a man like Brendan | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
and I would trust him if he gave me | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
a card with a financial adviser credentials. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
So much for gut instincts. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
Nope, but that's an important fact, though. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
It goes to perceptions and how easily people can be deluded. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Who are you calling deluded? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
I just don't think the testimony | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
of one man is enough evidence | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
on which to convict a person. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
So, firstly, please raise your hands for not guilty. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Right. Margaret, two, three, OK, that's three for not guilty. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
And now, not proven. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
OK, Hamish, two, three, four. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Four for not proven. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
And now for guilty? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Right. That's | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
one, two, three, four. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Jemma, Donna, Liam, David, Leanne. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Thank you. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
So that is seven to acquit, including the not proven. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
And eight to convict. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a verdict. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Brendan was a kind man. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
Some may say a ladies' man. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:18 | |
He loved nothing more than walking on the Mortcliff Bay cliffs. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
He first proposed on them when he was 16. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
He soon came to his senses, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:31 | |
left those silly notions behind. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
He dropped out of Mortcliff School... | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
..but by the time he was 20, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
he was a successful businessman. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Yes, he lived life in the fast lane. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Maybe he took it too far. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
But he paid his dues. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
Next week would have been his 40th birthday. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
A fantastic character, gone too soon. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
Thank you for coming. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
That was a lovely eulogy. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. And you are...? -I'm Margaret Donaldson. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
You may not remember me, but... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
Give me a minute, Thank you. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Thank you for helping with the service today. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
I know you volunteer here but even so, this must have been awkward. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
-What do you mean? -Well, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
I recognise you from the jury at my brother's trial. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
One of the ones that sent him down, were you? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Live and let live, that's what I always say. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
And like you said, he paid his dues. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Brendan wasn't guilty of anything and you know it. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
You know it, too. Is that why you came today, out of guilt? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
I came to pay my respects. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Oh, yes. I remember you, too. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Look, the jury found Brendan guilty. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Don't blame me for my opinions. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Self-centred witches, both of you. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Oh, girls. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Come on. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:09 | |
Brendan would have appreciated this. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
Women fighting over his memory! | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
What's that? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
Is that... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
..from Brendan's collection? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
You should be ashamed of yourself. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
Stealing from a dead fraudster? | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Couldn't have come up with a better plan myself. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Well, heavens! | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Margaret seems to be kind of desperate to be noticed. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
-Yes. -And the fact that she was forgotten by James Wilson, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
who obviously remembered both the other women in the jury, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
so she's wanting to be noticed, wanting to be remembered. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
I think Margaret's starting to stand up for me, because she's not as... | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
Nice as what she tried to make out. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
I think she can... She's a girl that can pack a bit of a punch, for sure. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
I'm going back to when she was talking about | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
the letters that she's been receiving. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
Possibly think that she's been sending them and I also think | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
that Donna could be next. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
Margaret might have been one of the lovely ladies | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
taken by Brendan at some point in time. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
He actually showed her proper attention. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
There was a relationship and then, of course, Brendan ended up | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
getting in prison. Now she is desperate and | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
now she knows the people to go after. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Well, let's take a look at the suspects board and, of course, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
we know now what James Wilson looks like, so we have Dale Coleman, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
Hamish McBride, Donna Atkins, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Margaret Donaldson and now James Wilson, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
who is Brendan's brother. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
As much as he was sort of paying his respects to his brother, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
I think he was highlighting some of his misdemeanours as well, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
which seemed a bit bizarre. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
So, yeah, he's somewhere in my thoughts. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
Yeah, I'd like to study him a little bit more. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
Now let's pick a piece of evidence. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Here are your choices. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
The data from Hamish's health app, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
the letters to Margaret Donaldson and a new piece of evidence, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
which is a postcard sent to Brendan in prison. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
-ALL: -Ooh... | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
Hamish's app is almost becoming insignificant for me. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
I don't know about you two. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
Letters to Margaret, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
I think that might show up the same handwriting as the letter | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
to the victims, so I don't think that's going to show anything. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
For me, I think we need to know who's sending postcards to Brendan. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Agreed. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
A postcard is a very sentimental document to give to someone. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
-Yeah. -So... | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
And if the postcard handwriting matches that | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
of the Fiona Williams letters, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
then I think we probably have something interesting there. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
-Absolutely. -Postcards, OK. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
On the front is a photo of the Bay Cliffs | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
and a handwritten letter is on the back. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
"On Tuesday, I'll be at the Jury Lane Hotel until six. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
"I don't sleep very well. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
"I do worry I'll be tired. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
"J sends her love. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
"Going to buy flour and marge for your birthday cake!" | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
Has to be some sort of code. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
The handwriting is the same as that on the Fiona Williams letters. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
The Is are the same and the As are the same. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
So I'm confident that the same hand has penned them both. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
I'm thinking that it's Margaret. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
The reference to "don't sleep very well", | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
and maybe this something to do with her chemotherapy. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:44 | |
Armchair Detectives, it's time to lock in again. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
Who's your prime suspect? | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Dale, Hamish, Donna, Margaret or James? | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Time's up. Notepads away, please, Armchair Detectives. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Now last time, Simon, you went for... | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
..Hamish. Have you changed your mind? | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
-Indeed. -Who've you gone for? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
-Margaret. -Margaret. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
I have a feeling that Brendan | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
actually made time for lovely Margaret here, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
probably the first time in her life, maybe. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
And now she wants revenge against the people... | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
..who took him away from her. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
You think it's revenge? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
Yes. Oh, yes. Oh, this is an emotional... | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
There's... No financial one. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
This is strictly matters of the heart here. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
Bola, last time you went for Dale. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
Who've you gone for this time? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
-I've switched. -Have you? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-Yeah. -To who? -Margaret. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
-Margaret as well. -Margaret did it. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
Do you agree with Simon's analysis? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
Yeah, absolutely and I think just | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
from the postcard that we saw the same handwriting. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Also, didn't think I would agree with this, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
but the bald head, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
possibly, she's wearing wigs and it could have blown off in the wind. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
-OK. -Just saying. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
Charley, last time, you went for... | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
-Margaret. -Changed your mind? | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Not in the slightest. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
Oh, so all three of them have gone for Margaret. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Why have you gone for Margaret? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
All the way through, she's been overlooked by everybody, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
ignored in the jury room, not recognised | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
by the brother of the deceased. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
She's got eight to kill. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
Six are already done. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
She's got two left and Donna - | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
who I think she's probably saving for last, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
due to her kind of basic unpleasantness - | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
is going to be an element of her piece de resistance in the cliffs. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
Right. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
Now it's time for round five, Armchair Detectives. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
It's the Final Clues. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
The murder happened at the cliff edge | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
but will we solve this cliffhanger? | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
Let's take a look. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Dale, Jemma's boyfriend, was unfaithful to her. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
Two of his work colleagues told me | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
he has quite a reputation for one night stands. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
And she could have found that out | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
and confronted him about it at the cliffs. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
However, DNA samples do confirm that he did urinate behind the bush, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
like he said he did. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
Yeah, let's not rule Dale out too soon, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
that's all I'm saying. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:24 | |
There could be any number of motives for this. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
I have located James Wilson, though. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
He moved to Parryvale after the trial, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
in case one of the victims wanted to get revenge on him. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
OK. That's something, at least. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
Let's pay Mr Wilson a visit. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Hello. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Ah! Miss Atkins. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:47 | |
Yes. Yes, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
I just have to tell you that I'm going to put you on speakerphone, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
so that my colleague, DC Slater, can hear this. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
Hello? Hello? | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
Yeah. Go ahead, we can hear you. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
I've just received a letter in today's post from | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
someone claiming to be an old school friend | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
and to meet her at the Bay Cliffs. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Do you recognise the name? | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
She called herself Fiona Williams. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
She said she got my name through Amber Morton, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
whom I know died last year. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
I don't remember anybody by that name. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Well, please don't respond and whatever you do, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:23 | |
don't go near the Bay Cliffs. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
We'll send a colleague round to examine that letter. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
I'm not proud of myself. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
When I thought we were going to be unmasked, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
I contacted the police and we made the deal so that I could testify | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
without being convicted myself. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
What did your brother make of that? | 0:33:41 | 0:33:42 | |
I told him as soon as I'd done it. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
He knew I wouldn't survive in prison, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
so whilst he wasn't happy with the situation, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
we both knew it was the right thing to do. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
What made you think you were so special | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
you couldn't serve time in prison? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
I'm sensitive. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Some say he laid down his life for you. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
I'll forever be in his debt. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
Have you found anything interesting | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
or unusual among your brother's possessions? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Nothing. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Hardly anyone came to his funeral. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
Although there were those women that were fighting over him. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
He was always a dark horse when it came to women. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
He couldn't resist them, you know? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
You'd be surprised how easy it is to pick up women when you're inside. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
He had a secret admirer on the outside. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
He got loads of letters. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:42 | |
It just goes to show, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
even if he was locked up, he still had it. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Indeed. What do you think? | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
They're very, very desperate. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Right now, if I knew that the police had the evidence, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
I'd kind of stop but, no, this one, this killer's, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
he or she is very desperate. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
Very desperate. Well, it's time to pick your final piece of evidence. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
You have just two pieces left to choose from. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
Which one do you fancy? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
Hamish's app... | 0:35:15 | 0:35:16 | |
..or letters to Margaret? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
Hamish's app. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
If he was going to offer that up, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
he would make sure that it showed exactly what they wanted to see. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
I think we've only one option. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
The letters to Margaret. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
-Letters? -I think the app. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
-I trust tech. -Oh, thanks, guys. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
-It's just up to me now, isn't it? -Simon, you've got the casting vote. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
Oh, no! OK. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
Do you know what? Let's... | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Let's go for the app! | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
-Let's go for the app. -OK, you've chosen to see Hamish's app. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
We can see Hamish was at the cliffs during the murder, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
so you can see there, driving between 9am and 9.20am, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
walking between 9.25am and 10am. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Stationary between 10am and 10.30am. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
Walking, 10.30am - 11am. | 0:35:58 | 0:35:59 | |
Stationary 11-11.30am. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
He's left his phone somewhere. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:03 | |
I think it proves that he didn't do it. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
If the thing is stationary, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
then that means it cannot move and | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
why would he stay around for half an hour? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
Why just stay there? | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
It doesn't prove anything. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
It's Accusation Time. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
As you know, whoever guesses correctly will win this, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
the magnificent golden magnifying glass. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
I want you to write down who you're accusing. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
It's time to answer the only question that matters. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
Whodunnit? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
Time is up. Notepads away, Armchair Detectives. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
Simon, who are you accusing? | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
-Margaret. -Why? | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and literally, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
this is a woman who has been overlooked nearly all of her life. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
The first piece of comfort - | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
snaps it right up and it was taken away from her | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
just as easily - revenge. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
-Bola. -I just changed my mind. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
OK. Who are you accusing? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
-Hamish. -Hamish! | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
I think that piece of evidence that we went for, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
that I definitely didn't want to go for, threw me. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
-The tracker. -Yes. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Charley. I am sticking with Margaret as I have done all the way through. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
There's an entire borough in London | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
that are going to be laughing at me if I get this wrong. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Let's just see what the final piece of evidence was and whether it would | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
have changed your minds. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
These letters were provided to the police by Margaret Donaldson. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
They are handwritten letters | 0:37:50 | 0:37:51 | |
and have been sent to Margaret from | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
Fiona Williams, which mirror the letters sent to the other victims. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
Almost identical in what they say, Fiona Williams - | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
"I walk the dogs every Tuesday from 10am at Bay Cliffs", | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
but there are several letters there. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
Yeah, she did it. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
Well, we don't quite know that yet, Bola. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
Let's find out! | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
So what really happened in today's story, The Jury's Out? | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
Who killed Jemma Hall? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
Let's find out whodunnit. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
You know, I think we can rule out Dale Coleman and James Wilson. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
James is clearly reformed and even though Dale wasn't, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
I just can't imagine he has the stomach for murder. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Yeah, well, Hamish's location tracker checks out. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
We have a witness confirming he was talking to him near the scene. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
Margaret Donaldson. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
She is an odd one. | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
Yeah. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
The letters Brendan received in prison make for interesting reading. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
I'm sorry to call you in at such short notice. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
How is the chemotherapy going? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
It's all right. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
I suppose. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
Young love is a powerful thing, isn't it, Slater? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Yes, sir. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
I have a theory that young love is the most potent expression of life. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
Do you like Romeo and Juliet? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
It's my favourite play. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
That's a nice engagement ring, Margaret. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Who's the lucky man? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:45 | |
Who WAS the lucky man, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
I think you meant to ask, Slater. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
My guess is, the lucky man was Brendan Wilson. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
When you were very young, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
he gave you that ring and asked you to marry him on the Bay Cliffs. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
And years later, when you were called to jury service, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
and recognised him... | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
..I wonder what your initial reaction was. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
See, I think Brendan was a manipulator | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
who took advantage of you. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
We both felt the same way about one another. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
You didn't disclose that you knew the defendant. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
You also did your best to sway the jury. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
However, the evidence was enough to convict Brendan. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
We looked at letters Brendan received in prison. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
These letters in particular were sent during | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
the time he was having his trial. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
In them, you say you were on the jury. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
The handwriting is similar to those sent to all the victims. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
You wrote to Brendan in prison. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Brendan promised that when he got out, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
he would divorce his wife and marry you. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
Sadly, he died. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
In your mind, the members who gave Brendan a guilty verdict | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
were the ones to blame. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
So you sent them letters inviting them onto the cliff | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
and you pushed them over the edge. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
I also received letters so it couldn't have been me. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
You received four letters. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
All the other victims only received one. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
We also examined a photograph | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
taken by Jemma before she was pushed. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
We can clearly see a bald-headed person in the background. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
It's not fair. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
We were destined to be together. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
All these people, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
living their perfect happy lives while all I do is try to stay alive. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
Margaret Donaldson, I'm arresting you for the murder of Jemma Hall... | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
..and for suspicion of the murders of David Parkin, Liam Clarke, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
Lewis Murphy | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
and Liana Scofield. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
Well, Bola, you knew it was her all along. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
So annoying. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
Can I just say, you worked incredibly well as a team there. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
Brilliantly done. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
It just shows you what evidence you pick can change your minds. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
You will get another go, though, Bola, so don't worry. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Congratulations, Simon and Charley, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
you both picked the killer and have won a golden magnifying glass. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
Well done! | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
Armchair Detectives, did any of you pick the right killer? | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
-Yes. -Oh, quite a lot. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
They're always very confident when they're sitting over there. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
So that's all from our Armchair Detectives. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
Tomorrow, Knight and Slater will be bowled over as they investigate a | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
death at the local bowls club. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
But remember, no-one gets away with murder in Mortcliff. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
Goodbye. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 |