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We're in the heart of East Sussex today in the picturesque

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town of Lewes, to be precise, which is steeped in history.

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The big question today is are our Bargain Hunters about

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to make their own little bit of history? Let's find out!

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Let's go bargain hunting, yeah!

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Now, there are four antique centres to choose from, three items

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to buy, two experts to help them, but only one Bargain Hunt.

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So, let's have a quick peek as to what's coming up.

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There's dissent in the ranks for the Reds...

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-Would you have that in your home?

-Yeah, I would. Yeah, yeah.

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I wouldn't.

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..and the Blues drive a very hard bargain.

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-You know, these people do have to eat.

-Yeah.

-Do they?

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When they go home at night and they have their baked beans on toast,

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if they're lucky, they might have an egg.

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But if we don't pay enough, they can't have an egg.

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They can't have an egg.

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So, it's a battle of the sexes on today's programme.

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For the Reds, we've got Kevin and Adam and for the Blues,

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we've got the double L's.

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We've got Leslie and Liz. Hello, everyone.

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ALL: Hello!

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Very nice to see you.

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So, you guys are in red today but you ought to be in blue

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-because you're both cops.

-Yes, that's right.

-That's right, yes.

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-And where are you based?

-We were based at Kingston.

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-That's where we met about 20 years ago.

-20 years ago, yeah.

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And then we met up quite a little time after that. Didn't we?

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Yeah, at Heathrow, which I now still work at.

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-This police job isn't the first job you've ever had, is it?

-It's not.

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I've done some weird and wonderful jobs in the past.

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-You've worked on a farm in Australia.

-Yes, I have, yeah.

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We were the first six-man team to pick pumpkins in Australia

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-and we picked 25 tonnes in one day.

-Get away!

-No, it's true.

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And you're keen on the old scuba?

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Yes, I'm a scuba diving instructor as well.

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-And when you're not working, what do you like to get up to?

-I like to play the ukulele.

-Never!

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That's what my wife says.

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And you've done a fair amount of travelling, have you, Adam?

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Uh, yeah, I have.

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When I was 33, I took a career break from the police

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and went travelling round the world.

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I went to...

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India, Hong Kong, Thailand, Cambodia...

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-Gosh.

-..Vietnam, Australia...

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You went round the world then, did you?

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Well, I was originally going to go for a year and a half

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but I ended up cutting it short. I only went for 80 days in the end.

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-I missed my wife who was my then girlfriend so I came home.

-Right.

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So, how do you think you'll get on today, boys?

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-Oh, we're going to win.

-Are you?

-Yeah.

-Well, there you go.

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You're two highly respected officers.

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I'm sure you'll be highly respected at the end of this performance too.

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Anyway, good luck with that.

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-Now, girls, are you quaking in your boots?

-Yes.

-I don't blame you.

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Now, Liz, it says here that you're mad keen on driving.

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Yes, that's very true.

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I have a coach licence,

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-and I passed my coach licence on Friday 13th of June '88.

-Ah.

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And then I worked for a company in Billingshurst for about

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-ten years and then I moved onto Cranleigh.

-Right.

-And I'm working for a company in Cranleigh now.

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And you're pretty fond of your motors too, aren't you?

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Oh, I love my motors. I have two little Morrises.

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I have Doris the Morris, who's a white convertible,

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-and Marigold, who's a green saloon.

-And what are they, Morris 1000s?

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-Morris 1000s, yeah.

-Ah, lovely, jolly good.

-They're proper cars.

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-What about the gee-gees?

-The gee-gees, yes.

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I did a lot of riding back in 1972

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with my lovely horse, Sam Weller.

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I rode at Windsor and we won the Hunter class and then we went

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through to the Supreme Championship and we won.

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I don't believe it! We have a supreme champion here!

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-And then we qualified for Wembley.

-Gosh.

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-So we went to Wembley and we were fourth.

-Well done! What a thrill!

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-So, very good.

-Yeah, well done.

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And now, Liz, you have a lifelong passion for art.

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I have, yes. It's part of my family.

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My grandfather was one of the earliest people to do lantern slides,

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or slides, as we now know them, and so I was brought up with looking at art,

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particularly photography so...

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You won a painting competition when you were a nippper.

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Yes, the Harrogate Festival Of Visual Arts

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-and LS Lowry presented me with my prize.

-Did he really?

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And I have his autograph.

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So, have you known each other for years, you two?

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Well, about eight years now we've known each other.

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Where did you meet?

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We met at a bridge club,

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very near me and we actually got talking,

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I suppose about four years ago or three years ago about antiques

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and things like that and then I said, "Liz, how about Bargain Hunt?"

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-And she said, "Yeah, let's have a go."

-And here you are today.

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-And here we are today.

-Yes.

-Lovely.

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Anyway, it's great to have you on the show. In fact,

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so great I'm going to give you £300. There you are. £300 apiece.

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You know the rules, your experts await and off you go!

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And very, very, very good luck.

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Let's meet the experts.

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Keeping the Red team in check, it's Catherine Southon.

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And sticking his oar in for the Blues, it's Thomas Plant.

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Adam, Kevin, £300 burning away in our pockets,

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what are we going to do with the money? Do we have a plan?

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-Oh, yeah, definitely.

-What are we going to be buying today?

-Um...

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Looking for something like pretty little furniture pieces.

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-Sort of silver.

-Silver.

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I think we're going on the charm offensive.

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-Oh!

-If that doesn't work, we're going to go good cop, bad cop.

-Yeah.

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If that doesn't work, we're just going to wing it.

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-Something to do with...

-Art Nouveau, really.

-Art Nouveau? Hmm.

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-Well, that's my favourite subject.

-Is it?

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-And the young style, just like you two. In we go.

-OK.

-Thank you.

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Watch out.

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# Whoop, whoop That's the sound of the police

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# Whoop, whoop That's the sound of the police... #

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Lots of goodies.

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# Girls just want to have fun... #

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I like little boxes. Anything that's small and box-like.

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-Kevin, look at this.

-What's that, Ad? What have you found?

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-It looks like a Hindu cow or something.

-Indian, it could be.

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-Is it incredibly light?

-Yeah, very light.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say it's great, to be honest.

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Do you think there will be any people

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-that are interested in Indian bulls at the auction?

-Fair enough.

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-Yeah, there we are. J S&S - an Art Nouveau copper jug.

-Yeah.

-Price?

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-£28 it is.

-I quite like that.

-It is quite nice, actually.

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It is very nice.

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Well, you just don't see very much these days

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-and it has that nice sort of organic bit.

-It does.

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Quite a commercial piece.

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Arts and Crafts copper is being made quite commercial.

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-So that would be quite good to go for, that sort of thing?

-It would be.

-Oh.

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-Has that got silver on it?

-A hickory shafted cane.

-Right.

-Or holly.

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-Oh, it's holly?

-Could be.

-They use those for horses, the whip that's used for driving horses.

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Is there any label on it? What does the label say?

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-It just says stick and it says £23.

-Is it a woman's one?

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-No, it's a man's one.

-Is it?

-It's quite short then.

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-They were a bit smaller then, weren't they?

-Yeah.

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-I think that's rather fun.

-It is rather fun.

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Can you see if there's a mark on there?

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-It's quite badly worn, to be honest.

-Is it?

-It is, it looks very sort of squashed.

-Look, it's all sort of...

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-Oh, is it? Oh, right, OK.

-I think we ought to carry on.

-OK, carry on.

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I'll put that back very carefully.

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-No sticking around for the Blues then.

-Do you like the toys?

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Do they come in their original packaging?

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Is that what people are after these days?

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Yes, that is important, also being in mint condition.

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Sometimes when the boxes haven't even been opened.

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When you've got a stall like that where they sell these,

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they know the prices, they know what they're worth

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-and we're not going to beat this.

-Sure. Sure.

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-We've always got the cow as back up, haven't we? So...

-No, I've changed my mind about the cow.

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We've agreed to disagree on the cow.

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-Just looking at what that was.

-What what was?

-These, what are these?

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-That's a baby's rattle.

-Yeah.

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It's been thrown across the room a few times.

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-And in the red corner, a box.

-I like the boxes.

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Well, you have good taste. This is known as Tunbridge ware.

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You see all those little tiny mosaics of different coloured woods,

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so I think that's probably a Rosewood box.

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And they're all laid in sort of geometric shapes.

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The only thing I would say, sadly, is this is

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-not quite as collectable at the moment as it once was.

-OK.

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-BUT there's some very nice pieces there.

-Now, talking of boxes...

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I just like this little stamp box.

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You can use it so it's going to be left out

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-and people can admire the top.

-It's very pretty, the top, isn't it?

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-It's lovely.

-Shall we have a look at that?

-Are the Reds being box clever?

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-I love that little box there.

-Little money box. How much is on that?

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-Oh, £90.

-Oh, I thought it said £40.

-Oh, dear.

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Cor, boxes are popular today.

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-It's a very sweet stamp box, isn't it?

-Yeah, first class, second class.

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-First class, second class.

-It's got a sloping interior so you can get them out easily.

-Oh, really?

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-How clever!

-Not the oldest thing. It's only £23.

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-Wouldn't a philatelist quite like that?

-A phil...

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-That's a good name, isn't it?

-It's a good name.

-A good word, philatelist.

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-It's the battle of the boxes.

-£90 for something really quite simple.

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-Yeah.

-It is nice, there's no real damage there

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because these little pieces can come out quite easily.

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It is in nice condition.

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That's what I would say.

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I think we'd make more money with the Hindu cow.

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If we could get that a lot cheaper...

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-Do you want to ask what he can...

-£60? If he can do it for £60...

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While the Reds are trying to close a deal,

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Thomas is opening Pandora's box for the Blues.

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-OK, I'm going to be slightly controversial here.

-OK.

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-Slightly controversial.

-Mh-hm.

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I think it's a real cop-out buying something which is marked at £23.

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-In this cabinet here...

-Yes?

-..are a number of little boxes.

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-You've got enamel boxes, porcelain boxes, papier mache boxes.

-OK.

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I think if you want to play the game,

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and we want to win, I think we buy the lot.

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We buy all the boxes and it's one lot of boxes and it will appeal.

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-That's a brilliant idea!

-You like that idea?

-I do!

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-You could get a good discount by buying them all.

-Exactly.

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He's thinking outside the box there.

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-We're wondering what you could do for us with this.

-Let's have a look.

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Cos we really love it.

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-If you do love it then you won't mind paying 80 quid, will you?

-80?

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Could you do it a little bit less than that for us?

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I'll tell you, you can have it for 70 quid but that's it.

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-It's nice, but I don't love it.

-I'll hang on to it for you.

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-Yeah, put it to one side.

-So that box is shelved for the Reds.

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-Now, Thomas, we're counting on you.

-So, we've got one, two, three, four, five, six...

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-Seven with the stamp.

-OK.

-Shall we get them out?

-Yes.

-Get them all out.

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# Little boxes on the hillside

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# Little boxes made of ticky tacky

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# Little boxes, little boxes

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# Little boxes all the same

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# There's a green one and pink one

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# And a blue one and a yellow one

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# And they're all made out of ticky tacky

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# And they all look just the same... #

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-Well, with 10% off, that comes to £80.

-Yeah, and another 20...

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-And another 10, that would be...

-He's shaking his head slowly.

-70.

-70?

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-Yeah.

-So it's £10 a box?

-That was the most expensive one, wasn't it?

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What he's done is that was 23 and he's marked it down to 20,

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so he's already done us 10%...

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-Right, OK.

-..off already.

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You know, these people do have to eat.

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When they go home at night and they have their baked beans on toast,

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if they're lucky, they might have an egg.

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But if we don't pay enough, they can't have an egg.

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They can't have an egg. You see? It's very unfair.

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-I know, but we're out to do well.

-I know we're out to do well.

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We want to win! We want the gavel.

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-I know you want to win, you want the golden gavel.

-Yes.

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I understand, I do understand.

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Well, you know, forego an egg tonight and 65?

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-No, I have to stick to 70, I'm afraid.

-Right, OK. £70?

-Yes.

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-You're happy?

-I think you should buy them.

-Yeah.

-Let's go for it.

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-I mean, I like them.

-Oh! I'm exhausted.

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All this talk of eggs, eh? Thomas has had "en-oeuf" already.

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-Deal.

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you, thank you.

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Thank you very much. Thank you.

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That's cracking. One deal done, Blues.

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Now, what's Catherine taken a shine to?

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-I quite like that.

-Manly!

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-Wow, they're quite heavy.

-What is that?

-A ship's lantern.

-A ship's light?

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A ship's light.

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You get so many reproductions of these, so many.

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I think that's a definite possibility.

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Do you want to see how much...

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-Shall we all go?

-Yes.

-OK.

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-Strength in numbers.

-Strength in numbers. Steven.

-Yes?

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-We rather like these ship's lights.

-Strictly speaking, they should be 170 so...

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-150's about as much as...

-How about 130?

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I'm being cheeky but....

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No, it's going to be on my head if it is.

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I'll tell you what, we'll split the difference. 140.

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-I'll take that risk.

-I quite like that price.

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-I noticed a pen there that was interesting.

-That was lovely.

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-That was really nice.

-It was a similar price to this.

-Where in?

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-Back where Kev saw the little moneybox.

-Oh, the Tunbridge ware?

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-Yeah, there was a quill.

-Oh, OK, well do you want to...

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-That cabinet's still open, isn't it?

-I think so, yeah.

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Do you want to quickly go and grab that?

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-Is Adam steering the Reds off course?

-It was up here, I saw erm...

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-This pen here.

-I think that's really special, actually.

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-Look at the design on that.

-So, the boys are back at the Tunbridge ware.

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But what have the girls found?

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That was the other thing we were looking at.

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-Some of the old glasses, were they called something stem?

-Cotton twist.

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Cotton twist in there. What else is it called in Italian?

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-Oh, I don't know.

-A thousand canes. Millefiori.

-Oh.

-Oh, right!

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So those are canes. Millefiori canes. Cotton twist canes.

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-It's got...

-What's it called?

-Pontil.

-Pontil. You're quite right.

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You're quite right. Well done.

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-And the gold flecks inside there are aventurine inclusions.

-Right.

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-Oh, my goodness.

-Something's crystal clear.

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That TP sure knows his glass.

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What you need to do is angle it. This is the way.

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Angle it and look at the edge of the base, the rim,

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where it would have sat on a table and look at it with detail

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and you've got to see if you can see some tiny, tiny scratch marks on it.

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-A bit.

-A bit. You can see a bit, can you?

-Yes. Not much.

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-Does that mean it's old?

-Yes. You're looking for wear.

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And that slight wear from moving, when your staff have been in.

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-You both have staff, don't you?

-No.

-No? What is this?

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When your staff are in cleaning the house, moving backwards

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and forwards, it gets wear on it.

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Rub your finger around the top rim.

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No broken bits.

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Just make sure there are no chips, nibbles, bites, cracks.

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And I'll do one final thing. OK.

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GLASS PINGS

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Yes. No cracks.

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GLASS PINGS

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I think it's going to be early 20th century,

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especially with that wear around it. What do you think this could be?

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-39.

-39. Normally that would be...we'd take 10% off.

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Could we do 33?

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-30.

-I'm a simple man. I've got two very intelligent females here

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who can think more than I can think.

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OK. I'm under pressure now. So, 30 then.

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-Thank you.

-Thank you, ladies.

-Thank you very much.

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That deal is ringing true for the Blues. That's their second buy.

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This is late 19th century.

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-Really lovely.

-I think this is the first item we've all agreed on.

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-I do quite like that. It's quite quirky.

-I agree that it's lovely.

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It's just the price, isn't it? Let's go see what he can say.

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What can you do for us?

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-145 should be.

-145.

-Should be.

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-But might not be.

-135.

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135, so it's a case of do we buy this or do we buy this?

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I prefer the lanterns for the price. OK. Catherine.

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-Can you do 135 on those?

-Go on, Steve.

-Go on, 135. Time's running on.

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135. 135. Decisions.

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-Let's do the lanterns.

-Manly lamps, 135.

-Let's do it.

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What a manly pair. The boys have made their first deal.

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-Happy?

-I am, yes.

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I do quite like this shop. Can we look in this area here?

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-We missed it.

-You don't want to go out?

-Just five minutes.

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-I know we haven't got much time left.

-OK. Let's go and have a look.

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I want to show you two things here.

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-I love this.

-I hoped you were going to say that.

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A lovely large Victorian pewter meat platter with the tree drainer.

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You put your hot water in there. Fabulous bit of pewter.

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Great bracket for it.

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To top it off. I think, out of all of this,

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if you're going to have this, you're going to want this with it as well.

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1897. This is dated AA. So it's probably from a country house.

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I was going to offer, out of these two,

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£195, because we've got £200 left.

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Gives me a fiver to spend.

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Do you think that can be done?

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-I'll have to phone them.

-That's 160. That's 105.

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So I'm nearly there.

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I'll ring.

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195 leaves me a fiver.

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Thomas is setting himself up for a challenge there.

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I think the police have got a lead.

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-Ello, ello, ello.

-Down there.

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-Down there.

-What have we found?

-Let's have a look.

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-Oh, truncheons.

-A truncheon. A police truncheon.

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-Is it an old one?

-It looks old.

-They don't issue them any more.

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It's certainly got quite a bit of age to it.

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I love this leather strap. It's lovely, isn't it?

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It's not Victorian but it's probably '20s, '30s.

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There'll be a lot of retired police officers

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that might like something like this.

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You're narrowing your market, aren't you? What's the price on it?

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-£35.

-We've got to get this.

-Have you?

-I think it's fate.

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-Not for that price.

-I think we have to buy this.

-Yeah, go on.

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-Ah. You're not Steve.

-Nothing gets past you, Adam.

-We really like this.

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Could you do us a good deal on this?

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-30?

-We were thinking a little bit lower than that.

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-We've already bought an item from here.

-25 would probably be OK.

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Even though we've already bought something from here before?

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-Top marks for trying.

-She's tempted, she's tempted.

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-I think we should go...

-22.

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I think that's a nice price.

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We'll do it.

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-Shall we shake on that? Thank you.

-Nice one.

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That's two down and one to go.

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-What do you think they'll make on it?

-Kitchenalia is popular these days.

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It really has a huge appeal.

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Erm. We're spending a lot of money.

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There could be a profit. Let's see.

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-What's the story?

-195.

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-Well done, that is fantastic.

-Happy?

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-Very happy. Thank you very much.

-It's a bit bold and daring.

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Of course. It leaves me a fiver, thanks.

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So, the Blues have cracked it.

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And the Reds are trying somewhere new.

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-How does this feel?

-Erm.

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-What are you going to find for £5?

-Don't worry.

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Let me organise that. Let's go and have a cup of tea.

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Whilst the Blues are off for a brew, the Reds are getting ahead.

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So we've got a big old chunk of bronze here. It's been nicely cast.

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It's really nicely modelled. We've got a side-on view there.

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-Possibly of the young Augustus. Do you like it?

-I do.

-It's quite nice.

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It's very heavy. I'm just worried it's a bit broken.

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It's a bit damaged at the bottom, unfortunately.

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Ideally, it would be nicely mounted on a new piece of marble.

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-And then it's fine.

-It's really nicely...

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-Could you do us a good price on that?

-Bearing in mind it's damaged.

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-Bearing in mind we're in the last...

-We've got three minutes.

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Well, 85.

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Would you do 70?

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-75.

-What do you reckon?

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-Would you have that in your home?

-Yeah, I would, yeah.

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I wouldn't. THEY LAUGH

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-Doesn't seem to fit the profile for Kevin.

-One minute.

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-Do it. Let's do it.

-60 seconds. Let go for it.

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-OK. 75.

-Thank you.

-It's been a pleasure.

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Well, they found their man. Just in the nick of time.

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Tick-tock, time's up. Let's check out what the Red team bought.

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The boys took a shine to the manly pair of lanterns, paying £135.

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They didn't beat around the bush for their second buy.

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They had to have the truncheon for £22. And it's a bust.

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Well, a plaque of Emperor Augustus, actually.

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The boys paid £75 for their third item.

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-So, chaps, how are we?

-Very good.

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How was your hour with Catherine Southon?

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It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun.

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Well, you're looking very well on this. You're both still smiling.

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Excellent. Kevin, which is your favourite piece?

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-The pair of lanterns.

-And do you agree with that?

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I'd have to agree with Kev. I would go for the lanterns as well.

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-Super. So you spent in total?

-232.

-May I have £68 of leftover lolly?

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Thank you very much. That's it. So it goes straight across, look.

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-Lovely. Wonderful.

-And your plan, Catherine?

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My plan is I don't have one.

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-Oh, good.

-But I'm not going to buy a cow.

-OK.

-Going to buy what?

-A cow.

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-Don't ask.

-No. I would suggest not. Very expensive to keep cows.

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Anyway, good luck.

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Meanwhile, why don't we check out what the Blue team bought?

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The Blue team bought a job-lot of boxes for their first purchase.

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Seven for £70.

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Their story took a twist

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when they spent £30 on the Venetian glass bowl.

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The girls went big with their last buy, £195 on the meat dish and pan.

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OK, girls. What a thrill that was. Thomas Plant for a whole hour.

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-I know.

-So, which is your favourite item?

-The Venetian glass.

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-What about you, Liz?

-I think the Venetian glass.

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-And is that going to bring the biggest profit?

-I think it will.

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I'm not sure. I think it might be the last item which is two items,

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which is the big carving plate. And with the saucepan, I think that

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-might...

-That could do the biggest profit?

-I think it could do.

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We've got a slightly mixed message there which is lovely,

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but one thing's for certain. You spent a lot of money, didn't you?

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-Yes.

-How much?

-£295.

-Very good. This is a challenge.

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£5 of leftover lolly. Just the bare fiver goes to T Plant.

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-Is this your favourite moment, Tom?

-I love having a fiver.

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-It's a challenge.

-You don't get much for a fiver these days, do you?

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Basically, you can't go wrong, Tom.

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TOM LAUGHS

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I mean, for an auctioneer, £5, £10.

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-You've doubled your money before you can say Jack Sprout.

-Absolutely.

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And while Thomas gets his nose to the grindstone for the girls,

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I'm going to take you on a little trip.

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I've brought you to Shalford Mill,

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an 18th-century, pretty water mill on the

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outskirts of the enchanting village of Shalford, just outside Guildford.

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Let's have a look, shall we?

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Flour milling has flourished here from the medieval to Victorian times.

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The current mill still houses some 19th-century machinery,

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gears and pulleys, sack hoists and a water wheel.

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But it's not just the mill itself that attracts visitors to

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this National Trust property.

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I'm going to join Polly Bagnall who's going to tell us some more.

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-Good morning, Polly.

-Good morning.

-How very nice to see you.

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Now, I know the milling industry has had its ups and downs

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but tell us about the history of this particular mill.

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There was a mill on this site and there is one

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recorded in the Doomsday Book, so since medieval times.

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This actual mill was built in about 1739 by John Mildred from Guildford.

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And it's quite unusual.

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It's got beautiful, scalloped, clay tiles on the outside,

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so it's quite a grand mill.

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But it would've only been run by about two men.

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The grinder and a boy.

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It was very busy, all through the 1700s, 1800s,

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but around the end of the 1800s,

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there was no great demand for English wheat.

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It was cheaper to import it from abroad.

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So, by 1914 this mill was pretty much defunct.

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It was old machinery and obsolete.

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And how did this mill become National Trust property?

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That's a very interesting story

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because at that point there was an awful lot of road-building

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and all from London down to here, there were houses going up.

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Two women came down from London and they wanted to save a little

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bit of rural England and so they took the mill.

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But it was in a sorry state and they said, "Let's repair it,"

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and they had to raise money. They weren't any ordinary women.

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-They were Ferguson's Gang.

-Who were Ferguson's Gang?

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Well, there were five women. They were quite well educated.

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Some from very wealthy families,

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some from less so and had to earn a living.

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But they were bright and had a great sense of fun and were in their twenties.

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And they decided to get together

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and they had funny names, like Sister Agatha,

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Red Biddy, Bludy Beershop and the main person was Bill Stickers.

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Rather than just raising money in a normal way, they went round

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with masks and capes and went round all their friends and relatives

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getting Victorian coins until they'd amassed enough to repair the mill,

0:27:110:27:14

-a few hundred pounds.

-Bizarre.

-And employed an architect to do it.

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They gave it to the National Trust and they actually donated

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several properties around the south-east. An old priory,

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a town hall on the Isle of Wight and large tracts of Cornish coastline.

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Throughout the '30s and '40s, they were really active and every time

0:27:310:27:36

they got money, they donated it to the National Trust in funny ways.

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They would maybe roll it up disguised as a cigar

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or inside the body of a carcass of a goose.

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And one-time they made an elaborate pineapple that they put

0:27:470:27:50

the money inside and took it to the National Trust AGM and presented it

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and everyone thought it was a bomb and was really scared.

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But it hit the papers.

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All their activities got great publicity for the National Trust.

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I think they boosted the numbers by about a third

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and they raised £1,000, which at that point was a lot of money.

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-Did the gang remain secretive?

-Oh, indeed.

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They even had their own headquarters here at Shalford Mill.

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-This is the HQ, is it?

-It is. It's where they used to sleep...

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All five of them?

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-..and cook and eat. All five of them.

-Must have been cosy.

-It was.

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And what we have, which is great, is that they kept a minute book

0:28:270:28:32

and in here, all their exploits that featured in the newspapers

0:28:320:28:37

of the times. The Times, the Daily Mail.

0:28:370:28:40

They stuck in the cuttings and some of the buildings they restored.

0:28:400:28:44

And they've also recorded some of their activities that they did

0:28:440:28:49

which was just for their enjoyment

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and they used to have a ritual haunting of the mill.

0:28:510:28:54

Usually around the summer solstice.

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It would entail them making a feast in here and then going up to what

0:28:560:29:01

they called the Chamber of Horrors,

0:29:010:29:02

which was the top gallery of the mill.

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They would do chanting and I think we've got something in here.

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"On the stroke of midnight, the Right Bludy,

0:29:090:29:12

"the Lord Beershop, Bill Stickers and Sister Agatha assembled with their

0:29:120:29:16

"weapons in the Chamber of Horrors.

0:29:160:29:18

"Solemnly swore the following oath,

0:29:180:29:20

"'I swear that at whatever cost, I for one will uphold Ferguson's Gang,'"

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and they wrote it in this mockney. It's a bit like modern text speak.

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-Polly, your interest in this is not entirely coincidental?

-Not at all.

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I grew up here and my grandfather was The Artichoke, who was an architect.

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He was a conservation architect.

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The gang used him to restore and conserve all their buildings.

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It is fascinating, that whole era of the 1930s,

0:29:460:29:49

'40s and what was happening in rural England.

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-These women were quite important.

-Exactly.

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-Doing their mysterious good deeds.

-Indeed.

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The big question today is, of course, what good deeds are about to be done

0:29:580:30:02

by our teams over at the auction.

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Well, what a treat. We're in Wisborough Green,

0:30:150:30:17

at Bellmans' saleroom, with Jonathan Pratt. JP,

0:30:170:30:20

-good to see you.

-And you, Tim.

-Let's see what the Reds have got.

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-A couple of steaming lanterns.

-They're called Round Reds.

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I looked and looked and couldn't find a similar example to them.

0:30:270:30:31

That will only, I suppose, help.

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Yeah, probably. You get the port and starboard ones. The red and green.

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The all-round job would be for a special function like your

0:30:350:30:39

-being towed at night.

-The quality of them is very good.

-Exactly.

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So how much would the best price be?

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£80-120 is my estimate.

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Thank you. Catherine found them. She loves all this marine stuff.

0:30:480:30:51

She paid £135, which may just be a bit over the top. But not to worry.

0:30:510:30:55

We can soon knock them out with the truncheon.

0:30:550:30:58

JONATHAN LAUGHS

0:30:580:30:59

As truncheons go, this is quite a modern one.

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This is like a 20th-century bobby.

0:31:020:31:04

And the collectors will be more after 19th-century or earlier.

0:31:040:31:09

-Yeah. Early Peelers.

-Exactly.

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Which are painted and gilt and with a VR monograph instead of a GR.

0:31:110:31:16

-This is George V.

-How much?

0:31:160:31:19

-20 to 40.

-OK, £22 paid.

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And lastly, we've got what looks like a death mask. But a Roman mask.

0:31:220:31:27

-Augustus. How do you rate him?

-Nice and decorative.

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Nice quality. Not really much more to say about it than that.

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It goes into most homes as well. The classical collector, the Victorian

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type of house or someone who's interested in modern art.

0:31:400:31:43

You could still sit it in the same place.

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Just needs a bit of tidying up, chips and marks.

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The base isn't terribly good, to be honest, but that can be sorted out.

0:31:470:31:50

-Exactly. How much?

-60 to 80.

-£75. It's a classic, isn't it?

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That's it. It's all pretty well on the button.

0:31:540:31:57

They may not need their bonus buy, but let's have a look at it anyway.

0:31:570:32:01

You gave Catherine £68. Catherine, what did you spend it on?

0:32:010:32:04

Well, here we are, chaps.

0:32:040:32:07

-A box.

-Wow.

-Look.

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Open it up. Look at that. An artist box.

0:32:110:32:15

This is what you would take on your Sunday afternoon

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and you'd go out and you'd start painting. Wouldn't you?

0:32:180:32:22

-Would I?

-You would.

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You'd have one of those little stools, the collapsible stools.

0:32:240:32:26

You'd open it out and sit down and look at the countryside

0:32:260:32:29

-and you'd paint.

-How much did you pay for it?

-I paid £45.

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I quite like it, actually. I think that's really nice.

0:32:320:32:34

What do you think we'll get for this?

0:32:340:32:36

-I think you should make £30 profit on it. 40.

-Do you think?

-30, 40.

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-OK.

-OK, chaps. If you need it, you can pick it,

0:32:400:32:44

but only after the sale of your first three items, because right now

0:32:440:32:47

let's find out from the auctioneer what he thinks

0:32:470:32:49

about Catherine's little colour box.

0:32:490:32:52

-OK. I know you're very artistic. Good, isn't it?

-Windsor and Newton.

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I mean, good name for just quality painting products.

0:32:590:33:02

It's a mahogany case.

0:33:020:33:03

It's got a bit of age and vintage look about it.

0:33:030:33:05

It's packed full of paint. You could buy this and go and paint tomorrow.

0:33:050:33:09

-How much?

-I quite like it.

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As a practical object, it's good value for money. Decorative too.

0:33:120:33:16

How much money?

0:33:160:33:18

-£60-80.

-£45 paid by Catherine Southon.

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-So I think she's done well.

-I think she has too.

0:33:200:33:22

That's it for the Reds. Now for the Blues,

0:33:220:33:24

who have got that group of pillboxes.

0:33:240:33:27

-Modern ones, aren't they?

-They're all modern ones.

0:33:270:33:29

I have been kind of trying to be generous here.

0:33:290:33:32

-£40-60.

-Gosh.

-This one here is white metal, possibly silver and enamel,

0:33:320:33:38

but not terribly nice quality.

0:33:380:33:39

And then you've got a few porcelain ones there.

0:33:390:33:42

Quite honestly, if I got to 40, I'd be really pleased.

0:33:420:33:45

We need to get to 70 and that ain't going to happen.

0:33:450:33:47

If we transport ourselves to Italy, we might go to Venice

0:33:470:33:51

-and we might pick up a glass bowl like that?

-Yeah.

0:33:510:33:54

I like this sort of stuff.

0:33:540:33:56

I like the quality that goes into making these things.

0:33:560:33:58

-You think of those Georgian ale twist glasses.

-Yeah.

0:33:580:34:02

It's the same thing.

0:34:020:34:03

It's lots and lots of canes made smaller and smaller

0:34:030:34:05

-and smaller. It's very typically Venetian glass.

-But does it sell?

0:34:050:34:10

There are collectors of this sort of thing.

0:34:100:34:12

-£40-60, I think, is realistic.

-That's good. £30 only paid.

-OK.

0:34:120:34:18

Lastly, and not least, comes the meat platter and the copper pan.

0:34:180:34:24

I prefer the pan to the meat platter.

0:34:240:34:26

People aren't using sideboards any more. So where would you put this?

0:34:260:34:29

You buy it and put it straight back into a cupboard.

0:34:290:34:31

This is a nice quality Victorian pan. It's much of a muchness really.

0:34:310:34:36

I rate the meat platter at maybe £40, £50,

0:34:360:34:39

and then the saucepan, another £20 or something.

0:34:390:34:41

-So to me, it's sort of £60, £80.

-OK, fine.

0:34:410:34:44

-Well, they paid £195...

-HE GROANS

0:34:440:34:46

..which is a lot of turkey, isn't it?

0:34:460:34:48

We just have to hold fast and reckon they will need the bonus buy,

0:34:480:34:52

so let's go have a look at it.

0:34:520:34:55

-OK, girls. This is fun, isn't it?

-It's great fun.

0:34:550:34:57

Have you any idea how difficult it is to spend £5

0:34:570:35:01

on an object that's likely to make a profit?

0:35:010:35:03

I think we can imagine it.

0:35:030:35:05

I tell you, Tom's been through there and back, haven't you?

0:35:050:35:09

The thing is, you can buy any old bit of tat,

0:35:090:35:13

-but I bought...

-BOTH:

-Oh!

0:35:130:35:14

..a moulded plate, moulded glass, so not the greatest

0:35:140:35:18

quality but it's an exhibition piece from 1938 for Glasgow.

0:35:180:35:23

-I think that's very clever.

-So do I.

-I think you've done brilliantly.

0:35:230:35:27

Did you pay your whole £5?

0:35:270:35:29

That was it. This was marked up at a huge amount more.

0:35:290:35:32

-He took pity on me.

-And how much do you think it will make?

0:35:320:35:36

You've got to double your money. You've got to double your money.

0:35:360:35:38

-OK, brilliant. Are you happy with that, girls?

-Fantastic.

0:35:380:35:41

I think that's a great thing to find for £5, so well done, Tom.

0:35:410:35:44

Let's find out from the auctioneer what he thinks about Tom's plate.

0:35:440:35:48

JP, you know how difficult it is to find something

0:35:490:35:52

for a five pound note in the leftover lolly department.

0:35:520:35:54

I think, to be honest, Tom's done rather well. Glasgow 1938.

0:35:540:35:58

Impressed with thistles. A little bit of wear to it

0:35:580:36:01

but what can you buy for a fiver?

0:36:010:36:02

Exactly. So what's your estimate on that?

0:36:020:36:05

-10 to 20.

-OK, £5 paid. So Thomas Plant has done a blinder,

0:36:050:36:08

if the team decide to go with it and that is their next big decision.

0:36:080:36:13

There's loads of people here.

0:36:210:36:23

They're all buzzing and gagging to get hold of your lots.

0:36:230:36:26

What is going to happen, chaps?

0:36:260:36:28

We're excited as excited can be to be here with you,

0:36:280:36:32

and the first item up are the copper lanterns and here we go.

0:36:320:36:36

-I have a bid of £40 commission.

-Oh!

-At £40 commission.

-That's a bit low.

0:36:360:36:40

There's 45. And the commission's now gone. 50.

0:36:400:36:43

-£50. On the right now, at £50.

-It's very low, isn't it?

0:36:430:36:48

-55. 60.

-Come on. Up.

-65.

0:36:480:36:52

Has it now standing at the very back at £65.

0:36:520:36:55

Come on. I thought the internet would bid for these.

0:36:550:36:58

£65. Any more at £65? I'll give you one more chance. No.

0:36:580:37:02

£65 still there. Back of the room at 65.

0:37:020:37:06

-THEY GROAN

-£65.

0:37:060:37:08

-That's miserable.

-That is minus £70. Lord.

0:37:080:37:14

-Here comes the truncheon.

-£20 to start me.

0:37:140:37:17

Good truncheon here for £20. Lots of 20s. 20 in front.

0:37:170:37:22

25 in the yellow. 30. 35. 40. 45.

0:37:220:37:25

50. 50 down here. At 50.

0:37:250:37:28

Where's the other hand that went up? Are you coming back in?

0:37:280:37:30

-50 down front. OK. He says no. 50 down here.

-Come on!

0:37:300:37:34

Your bid at £50. All done at £50. Last chance.

0:37:340:37:37

-50.

-£50. Eight short of 30.

0:37:370:37:40

That is plus 28. 28, which means...

0:37:400:37:44

-..you're minus 42.

-Here we go. Here is the bronze.

0:37:450:37:48

£60 to start me for this. £60.

0:37:480:37:52

40, then. There's 40 now. Front here at £40.

0:37:520:37:55

Surely worth more. It's £40 down the front. Where's the five?

0:37:550:37:58

-Where's the five?

-Are we all done at £40?

0:37:580:37:59

No other interest in the room at £40? I'll sell then to you, sir,

0:37:590:38:03

down on the right at £40.

0:38:030:38:05

That's minus 77.

0:38:050:38:07

We should have bought three truncheons.

0:38:070:38:09

-What are we going to do about the paintbox?

-We've got to go for it.

0:38:090:38:12

-We've definitely got to go for it.

-You're going with it?

-Yeah.

0:38:120:38:15

-We've got nothing to lose.

-Nothing to lose at all.

-Go for it.

0:38:150:38:19

Bids with me at 55. 65. £75. Straight in at £75.

0:38:190:38:23

-Oh, 75 straight in.

-Oh, my God.

0:38:230:38:25

£75. Where's 80? Do I see £80.

0:38:250:38:28

-I told you it was a good one.

-Yeah.

0:38:280:38:31

Any more in the room? There's someone twitching out there on the internet.

0:38:310:38:34

-If you're going to bid again, bid now.

-Go on, twitch.

-Come on.

0:38:340:38:38

-85 anywhere else?

-Come on.

-Selling at £80.

0:38:380:38:43

Still twitching there. £80.

0:38:430:38:46

-Well, £80 is plus £35.

-It's something.

0:38:460:38:50

That is minus £42. That, chaps, could be a winning score.

0:38:500:38:55

-OK, girls. Do you know how the boys got on?

-No.

-Fine.

0:39:000:39:03

Anyway, you've got your little collection of pill and stamp boxes.

0:39:030:39:06

You paid £70. The auctioneer's been a bit sniffy about them.

0:39:060:39:10

£40-60 is his estimate.

0:39:100:39:12

-That is a bit cruel.

-We'll see how you go and here they come.

0:39:120:39:15

And with bids on the book, I'm starting at 60. With me at £60.

0:39:150:39:20

-Look at that! That's remarkable!

-£60. Looking for five now.

0:39:200:39:24

-Surely worth five. It's £60 with me.

-More, more.

0:39:240:39:28

65 and 70. 75 and 80.

0:39:280:39:31

Look at that!

0:39:310:39:32

We'll eat our words, won't we, JP?

0:39:340:39:36

Are we all done at £80? I shall sell at £80.

0:39:360:39:40

-That is remarkable.

-Well done. Well done.

0:39:410:39:44

A Venetian glass hexagonal bowl.

0:39:440:39:46

Bids on this to start me. 25. £35.

0:39:460:39:51

-We're in profit before we start.

-40. 45. You sure?

0:39:510:39:55

-One more might do it, sir. £45. 50 in the room now.

-50.

-55?

0:39:550:40:00

You both want it now at 50. 50 dead set.

0:40:000:40:03

-This is good.

-This is good.

0:40:030:40:05

Come on now.

0:40:070:40:08

£50 in the centre. I'll sell it at 50. It's yours, sir. £50.

0:40:080:40:11

50. Sold it for £50, which is plus £20. Very good.

0:40:110:40:15

You're plus 30. Now, stand by.

0:40:150:40:19

Someone start me 60 for this. £60.

0:40:190:40:21

£60 for the lot.

0:40:210:40:23

-Bid.

-Oh, no. No.

0:40:230:40:27

£20. Stop me at 20. There's 20 there.

0:40:270:40:30

25 anywhere else? £20 I have at the front.

0:40:300:40:33

-It's a long climb.

-A very long climb.

0:40:330:40:36

30. 35.

0:40:360:40:38

35, now with you, sir. £35.

0:40:380:40:40

Oh, no!

0:40:400:40:42

£35. Are you all done? It's £35 and selling.

0:40:420:40:46

You've lost your way with that one, Tom-Tom.

0:40:460:40:48

That is minus 160, which doesn't sound too bad if you say it quickly.

0:40:480:40:53

Look, gilt plate. You going to go with that? Bonus buy. Why not?

0:40:530:40:57

-Why not?

-It's a no-brainer.

-Nothing to lose.

-We're unified in that.

0:40:570:41:00

The moulded glass and gilt plate,

0:41:000:41:01

commemorating the Tower Of Empire Exhibition in Glasgow in 1938.

0:41:010:41:05

Someone start me at £10. There's 10 in the yellow. Thank you at 10.

0:41:050:41:08

-Oh, good.

-£10 is bid. Looking for 12 now. Dead ahead at 10.

0:41:080:41:12

Got to be worth 12. Do you want to come in at 12? No.

0:41:120:41:15

10 at the back of the room. Anyone else at £12? Come on.

0:41:150:41:17

-Let's go for 12. It's only £2 more.

-Come on!

0:41:170:41:21

10 it is then. At £10.

0:41:210:41:24

Selling for 10.

0:41:240:41:25

Which is plus £5, which means overall you're minus 125.

0:41:250:41:29

If you say that very quietly.

0:41:290:41:31

Today's programme hinges on the extent of losses.

0:41:360:41:40

The team that has managed to clock up substantially more losses

0:41:400:41:44

than the other is, of course, the Blues.

0:41:440:41:47

-Oh!

-Minus £125 is quite a score.

0:41:470:41:50

-Yeah.

-Really, a position you could not recover from.

0:41:500:41:55

Minus £160 on the pewter meat plate. That was a death blow.

0:41:550:42:00

Otherwise, you got a profit on every lot.

0:42:000:42:03

You got a profit on the bonus buy. You got a profit on the other two

0:42:030:42:06

-but that meat plate. You were sunk.

-Absolutely.

-Disaster.

0:42:060:42:10

-But you've been incredibly sporting about this.

-They were very nice.

0:42:100:42:14

-They were just the wrong buyers.

-Exactly. You have got it so right.

0:42:140:42:18

But you and your mate, Liz, are lovely when it comes to

0:42:180:42:22

sportsmanship because you haven't let this get you down, have you?

0:42:220:42:25

-No, course not.

-Hope you've enjoyed the experience.

-It's been terrific.

0:42:250:42:28

Bad luck about that plate. Otherwise you'd have been swimming.

0:42:280:42:31

Anyway, good fun. But the victors today who've managed to win by only

0:42:310:42:34

losing £42 are our boys in blue. I mean red.

0:42:340:42:38

You were £77 down the proverbial until Catherine came to the fore

0:42:380:42:42

with her lovely paintbox.

0:42:420:42:44

-That paintbox made £35, so well done, Catherine.

-Thank you.

0:42:440:42:47

You are minus £42, but the victors today, and I congratulate you.

0:42:470:42:51

-Thank you.

-Good fun.

0:42:510:42:52

It's been so much fun, you should join us soon for some more

0:42:520:42:55

-bargain-hunting. Yes?!

-ALL:

-Yes!

0:42:550:42:57

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