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-I'm John Hardy -and welcome to Cadw Cwmni. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
-Everyone has a story to tell... | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
-..and this series provides -a platform for them to be heard. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
-We'll hear about the trials and -tribulations of Wales's homeless... | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
-..but first, a woman -who dealt with the aftermath... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
-..of one of this century's -biggest atrocities... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
-..known by its date only - 9/11. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
-11 September 2001... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
-..saw the biggest -co-ordinated terrorist attack... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
-..ever witnessed -in the United States. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
-The terrorist organisation -known as al-Qaeda... | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
-..launched an attack on America. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
-Four separate attacks -were carried out on this day. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
-Terrorists hijacked -four passenger airliners... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
-..on internal flights... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
-..within the United States. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
-Two aeroplanes crashed into the Twin -Towers of the World Trade Centre... | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
-..in New York City. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
-Another aeroplane crashed into -the western side of the Pentagon... | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
-..while the other -crash landed in Pennsylvania... | 0:01:32 | 0:01:38 | |
-..after passengers -tried to overcome the hijackers. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
-Nearly 3,000 lives were lost... | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
-..during the attacks of 9/11. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
-It was the most daring attack -on America since Pearl Harbour... | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
-..which took place in 1941 and led -to America's involvement in WWII. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
-The tragedy that is 9/11. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
-Everyone seems to remember -where they were when it happened... | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
-..none more so -than my guest, Gwen Aaron. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
-Where exactly were you -when the attack happened? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
-I'm a former teacher. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
-I've been a teacher all my life. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
-As much as I enjoyed my job, -I decided to take early retirement. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
-It was a Tuesday afternoon. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
-I happened to be watching television -during the afternoon... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
-..and I thought I was midway through -watching a science-fiction film. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
-Gradually -I realized what was happening. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
-I'd heard about the first one but I -saw the second one with my own eyes. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
-It was unbelievable. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
-It was unbelievable. - -When did you know... | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
-..you were going out there -to help the aid effort? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
-The following Saturday... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
-..I received the call and -by Monday night I was in New York. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
-Why did you get involved? -What were you doing at the time? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
-After retiring early -I wanted to occupy my time. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
-I joined the Cruse charity... | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
-..which offers bereavement -counselling to those... | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
-..who are grief-stricken. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
-I'm still involved with the charity. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
-An enthusiastic member -joined the North Wales branch... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
-..and she thought we should -prepare ourselves for a crisis. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-She'd been working -on the Herald of Free Enterprise. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-I envisaged a ferry tragedy -or something like that. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
-We trained ourselves. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
-It involved a lot of role playing -and re-creating tragic events. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
-We watched films of Lockerbie and -imagined we were there in support. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
-After a year and a half of training -we decided we were ready. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
-We were the North Wales branch -of trauma counsellors. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
-But nobody knew about us -and nothing happened. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
-But the first call we received -came in September. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-Tony Blair decided he was going to -join ranks with George Bush. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
-He was under the impression... | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
-..that 300 Britons had been -killed in the Twin Towers... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
-..but the death toll was 67 -in the end, which was still awful. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-He invited two members of the -bereaved families to go out there... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
-..and spend three nights -in a hotel in New York. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
-He set it all up and involved -bereavement counsellors. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
-He sent 10 Family Liaison Officers -out there... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
-..along with the bereaved. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
-There are many -bereavement charities out there... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
-..but Cruse happened to be -on the Queen's Honours List. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
-It was a tactful ploy -to invite us out there. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-They knew we had a team -already set up in North Wales... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
-..so the four of us went, -along with six others. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
-How do you deal -with something of that magnitude? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
-It's one thing to be practising -role play and watching films... | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-..but being in the thick of it -is something else. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
-The death toll was rising and -the city was in complete disarray. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
-It was remarkable -under the circumstances. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-I never once felt in danger. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
-The security services worked harder -than they'd ever worked before. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
-What I was afraid of... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
-..and it's inevitable -in this line of work... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-..but I was afraid that I'd -console someone who was grieving... | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
-..and say something -that made it worse for them. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-It can happen, but usually -you speak to them face to face... | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
-..and you can tell whether -you should change tack and so on. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
-It's a constant worry -because it could easily happen. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
-When I came face to face with people -who'd lost a loved one... | 0:05:56 | 0:06:02 | |
-..I was trained -to deal with that situation. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
-Death is death. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
-You say death is death... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
-..but isn't -sudden bereavement different? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:17 | |
-These grief-stricken families -would land... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
-..we'd go and meet them -at the airport... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-..and shelter them from the press. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-The press were horrendous all week. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
-They were dreadful. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
-In what way? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
-They wanted to get to the families -before we could... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
-..and photograph them crying -and so on. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
-You just wanted -to shelter them from that. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
-The press wanted a story, any story. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
-It's understandable because -it made the headlines every day. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
-We tried to whisk them away quickly -to the hotel... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
-..to talk to them and ask them -what they wanted to do. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-They always wanted to visit -Ground Zero... | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-..just in case their loved one -had made it out alive... | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-..or hadn't been there -in the first place. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
-It was incomprehensible for them. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-We escorted them to the site -and it was a mound of rubble. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
-You could see -the realization hit them. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
-They knew no-one -could've got out of there alive. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-By the time you met them... | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
-..did they already know -their relatives were dead? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-They lived in hope -that they were still alive. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
-They couldn't accept -that they were dead. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-Their biggest desire -was to visit Ground Zero... | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
-..to see it with their own eyes. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
-It was sad -escorting them down there. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-It was one huge mound of rubble. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
-Did going to Ground Zero -help them accept... | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-..their loved ones were dead? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-Yes, it did, but it was -heart-breaking seeing their faces. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-They were full of hope to begin with -but the realization soon sunk in. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
-My first encounter -was the most harrowing. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-Two policemen and I -went to meet a family. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
-The police arranged everything. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-We went to wait for them -at Newark airport. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
-We'd been told that the woman -who had recently been widowed... | 0:08:14 | 0:08:20 | |
-..was at the airport -to meet her father-in-law. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
-He was an old gentleman -travelling with his daughter. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
-It was his son who had died. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
-The widow arrived -at the airport to greet them... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
-..and she wanted us -to accompany her. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-The policemen who initially thought -I was in the way... | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-..were happy -to let me deal with her. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
-I said to her, -"I'm very sorry for your loss." | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-She cried on my shoulder. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-She was a young woman with ringlets -wearing Bermuda shorts. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
-We connected right away. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-Relatives felt awkward in the middle -of this very public place. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
-A man called Vince, who I became -friendly with, realized this... | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
-..and ushered us -into the VIP lounge. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
-He was the manager -of the airport lounge. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
-We managed to evade the press. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
-Is there a right way -or a wrong way to grieve? | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
-No, it's a completely -personal experience. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
-You have to find your own way -of dealing with it. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
-You have to live with it -for a short time. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
-The effects of shock -can last up to a year. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
-What about you, Gwen? How do you -cope with that kind of situation? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-I was worried how it'd affect me. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
-You're with them -for the first meeting... | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-..to comfort them -and sympathize with them... | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
-..and I come away from there -thinking... | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-..'Thank goodness -that didn't happen to me.' | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
-But sometimes it gets to you. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
-I could deal with New York. -I didn't lose any sleep. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
-But there are some people -I'll never forget. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-New York was manageable. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-Why did you join Cruse -in the first place? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-I took early retirement... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
-..and I thought -I should be doing something. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-A friend of mine lost her husband -and she wanted to talk about it. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
-I could see it helped her -just by talking about it. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
-I simply listened to her -and it was beneficial. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-Has the trauma team -been called out since 9/11? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
-Yes, for cases on a smaller scale. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
-For individuals, mainly... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
-..and cases of suicide and murder. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
-The worst case I've ever encountered -was a road collision. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
-A cycling club went cycling -en masse one Sunday morning. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
-It was a cold February morning -with a little ice on the road... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
-..but it was sunny. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-A car, travelling -at a normal speed... | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
-..somehow skidded across the road... | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
-..and ploughed into them, -mowing them down. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-Bodelwyddan Hospital was nearby, -so they were taken there. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
-A woman who was with me in New York -happened to be on duty there. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
-She phoned six of us to come in. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
-For me, it was far worse than New -York because it had just happened. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
-I'll never forget that. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
-Some of the counsellors consoled -the families of injured relatives... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
-..whereas I comforted the survivors. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
-It was a shocking sight. Everyone -was shaking like a leaf and pale. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
-I helped the nurses wrap them -in blankets and gave them tea. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
-You're always looking after -the welfare of others... | 0:11:39 | 0:11:46 | |
-..but when you're alone... | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
-..does it ever affect you? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
-When does it hit you? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
-I was worried how it'd affect me -before I started... | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
-..but I'm able to deal with it. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
-You concentrate on their story and -you console them as best you can. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
-All you can do is be there for them. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
-Afterwards, -you shake hands and walk away. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
-I always think, 'They're so brave.' | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
-It's a privilege being with them. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
-You certainly do invaluable work. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
-Thank you very much -for joining me on Cadw Cwmni... | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
-..and telling your story. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
-It's time for a break now. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
-Join me in Part 2 when -I'll be joined by another guest. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
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-Welcome back. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-After discussing 9/11 -and New York in Part 1... | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-..we move closer to home -for the next story... | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
-..to discuss homelessness in Wales. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
-My next guest has been homeless... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
-..and is currently -helping the homeless. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-Harri Morris, welcome to Cadw Cwmni. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-Start at the very beginning. -How did you become homeless? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
-I did some stupid things and -hung around with the wrong crowd. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
-I got arrested for various things -and my mother had had enough. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
-I was taking advantage of my mother -and my home. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
-I'd get in late -and things like that. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-My mother started work -at six in the morning... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-..and I wouldn't get in till 4.00am. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-I was really taking advantage. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-My mother'd had a gutsful. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
-Our relationship broke down. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-After that -I started sleeping in the car... | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
-..because I had nowhere else to go. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
-I did some sofa surfing after that. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
-I did some sofa surfing after that. - -What's sofa surfing? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
-I'd stay at a mate's house one night -and another mate's another night. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
-I went back and forth like that. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
-Are you an only child? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:54 | |
-Are you an only child? - -No, I've two brothers. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
-My brother and I both got kicked out -and we slept in the car in winter. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
-Were you working at the time? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
-I had a temporary job in the three -months leading up to Christmas. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
-That was my only job. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
-How old were you when you left home? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
-20. My brother was 16. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
-So he was still at school? | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
-Yes. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
-How did you manage, sleeping -in the car and him going to school? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
-I told him to go to school but -whether he did or not, I don't know. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-I told him he had to go. -I kept my job too. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
-How bad were things at that time? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-How often would you steal? -How often would you get arrested? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-We'd go every night. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-We'd drive around in daylight, -looking for things to steal. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
-If we saw something, -we'd go back at night. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
-I completely regret it now. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-There was no point doing it -because we never made much money. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
-It wasn't worth the risk. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
-It wasn't worth the risk. - -What did you steal? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
-Copper, slate, tools. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
-Anything and everything. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-Why did you do it? -To have enough money to live on? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-Yes, we needed money to live. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
-We had nothing to do -so we needed money to do things. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
-How long -would you stay on someone's sofa? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
-Sometimes one night. Depends -how long a mate would let me stay. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
-Fair play to one of my mates, -he let me stay for a number of days. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
-Did you sleep on the streets at all? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
-I had a car at the time, -so I'd sleep in the car. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
-I've never slept rough. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
-Some of my friends -have lived in tents too. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
-It happens. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
-You were working during this time, -and it was over Christmas... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
-..so you slept in the car in winter? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
-..so you slept in the car in winter? - -Yes. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
-Did you try to go back home? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
-No. Things had gone too far -for that. I wasn't talking to her. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-There was no way -you could've gone home? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
-Not for me, no, not at all. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-I wasn't talking to her. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
-I cut myself off. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-In terms of work, -you'd lost your job. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-Could you claim -Job Seekers' during that time? | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
-How could you claim benefits -without an address? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
-I couldn't because the Job Centre -sends letters to your address. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
-Because I was of no fixed abode, -I couldn't register for benefits... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
-..because I didn't have a home. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
-Were you experiencing -other problems at the time? | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-Did you have a dependency problem or -was it just that you were homeless? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
-I used to have -a bit of a problem with alcohol... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
-..but never with drugs. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
-When did you decide -that this way of life had to end? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
-When I wound up at a hostel. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
-When I spent -my first night in a hostel. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-I was there with people I -didn't know and I felt very lonely. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
-I decided it was time to change -my ways before things got any worse. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
-Which hostel was it? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
-The GISDA hostel in Caernarfon... | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-..which supports homeless people -aged between 16 and 25. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
-There were seven of us altogether -at the hostel. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
-I didn't know them all -but I knew one or two. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-They were from the town. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-I had an opportunity -to go to the Holyhead hostel... | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
-..but I preferred -to stay in the town. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-My little brother -told me about GISDA. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-He told me -to go and talk to someone there. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
-I was given a referral and within a -couple of weeks I had an interview. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
-They had to decide -between me and another... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
-..which of us would get the room. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-I desperately wanted it because -I couldn't stay at mates' houses. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
-I felt I was in the way -and I didn't have much money. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-I wanted to pay them -but I had very little to offer. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-I was lucky -to have a place in this hostel. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-So I lived there for eight months. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
-Did you have to pay for it? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
-Did you have to pay for it? - -Yes, for utilities. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-If you didn't work, -housing benefit covered it. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-But the rent was very high. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
-130 a week. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
-So if anyone's having difficulty -filling in forms and so on... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
-..does GISDA offer advice? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
-Yes. -We have an information shop now. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-Anyone can drop in and they can -give you help with budgeting... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
-..and filling out -benefit forms and so on. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
-GISDA is there to help. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
-You work for GISDA now. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
-Yes, for the past two years. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-What's your role? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
-What's your role? - -I'm a peer mentor. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
-I draw on my own experiences, -what worked, what didn't... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
-..to help young people -achieve a positive outcome. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
-If they want to do something... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
-..I offer ideas -of how they can achieve it. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-I try to be a role model for them. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
-In terms of the situation -in Caernarfon at the moment... | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
-..is it worse -than when you were growing up? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
-It's getting progressively worse -due to these tax cuts... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-..where they have to pay more if -they have bedrooms they don't use. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
-More people are becoming homeless. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
-More people are becoming homeless. - -Do you still live at GISDA? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
-No. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-Thanks to GISDA, I'm now living -in a one-bedroom flat. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-But I've had to work for that. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
-I've done a lot of phoning around -and filling in forms... | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
-..to prove I'm capable -of living by myself. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
-GISDA provides you -with a key worker. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
-You have weekly meetings -with them... | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-..and they help you -achieve your goals in life. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
-If you want to go to college, -they'll help... | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
-..they'll help you -with grants or if you're in debt. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
-They'll refer you -to Citizens Advice. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-Your confidence -must've taken a knock... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
-..when you were homeless. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
-Is it starting to come back now? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
-Yes, I've got my confidence back. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
-As part of my job, -I visited schools... | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
-..and ran -homeless prevention workshops. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
-I tried to get across to the kids -that it could happen to anybody. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
-I didn't expect it to happen to me. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
-I didn't expect it to happen to me. - -Is it difficult for you to admit... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
-..that you'd made a mess of things? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
-Yes, it is difficult -to look yourself in the eye. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
-It's only now I'm realizing... | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
-..that some of the things I did -was my own fault. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
-I've tried to make amends for that. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
-Now I'm concentrating on my work -and striving to be happy. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
-What kind of mentor are you? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
-Do you lose your temper with people? | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
-Do you tell them they -shouldn't be doing this or that? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
-All I do is talk to them. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
-I understand where they're coming -from because I've been through it. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
-I know what's -going through their minds. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
-I don't get angry with them, -I just talk to them sensibly. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
-Hopefully they'll turn around and -say, "You're making a lot of sense." | 0:21:18 | 0:21:24 | |
-What's your success rate so far? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-100%. Maybe not. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
-But it's high enough? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-But it's high enough? - -Yes, it is. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-So the system works? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
-It's better that someone like you -mentors them than someone like me. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
-We raised enough money... | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
-..to hire -another three peer mentors. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
-We held mentoring days -where young people dropped in. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
-We talked about celebrities -who've been homeless. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
-It goes to show -it can happen to anyone. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
-The message is clear. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
-Being homeless -isn't the end of the world. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-That's right. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
-GISDA gave me a second chance -to make something of myself. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
-If I hadn't been given that chance, -I doubt I'd be sitting here now. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
-Looking ahead, -what does the future hold for you? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
-What do you -hope to do with your life? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
-I'm not sure at the moment. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-I've been given -a year-long contract by GISDA... | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
-..to work as an -outdoor activities project worker. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
-We're currently running -a football campaign... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
-..called Street Football Wales. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
-One of the lads playing for my team -was picked to represent Wales... | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
-..in the Homeless World Cup -in Poland. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
-You're obviously very busy. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
-I even sorted out tickets -before I came here! | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
-How are things with your mother? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
-Things are much better -than they were. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
-We didn't speak at all. -Things are better now. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-Maybe that will be the next step? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
-Good luck to you. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
-I hope things work out. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
-I'm glad to see -things are working out for you. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
-Thank you for joining me -on Cadw Cwmni. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
-That's it for another episode. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
-We'll be back next week -with more guests. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
-Until then, -from me, John Hardy, goodbye. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
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