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-The subject of this programme

-is an interesting one.

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-I'm visiting the home

-of Michael and Gwawr Jones...

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-..Ffridd Farm, Llandygai.

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-They have a young son, Bedwyr.

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-They're renting a farm

-on the Penrhyn estate...

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-..and they have a 15-year tenancy...

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-..which is unusual, nowadays.

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-It's a nice story

-from the world of agriculture...

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-..at a time when people

-are turning their backs on farming.

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-Starting a farming business from

-scratch is not easy, these days.

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-But Michael and Gwawr

-are giving it their best.

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-They're enjoying it.

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-You have lots of dogs, Michael.

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-Let's see how they perform!

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-Are you particularly keen

-on Kelpies?

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-Well, yes.

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-They're...

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-They do the job, when they want to.

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-You're sorting out lambs today,

-are you?

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-Do you sell them on the hook?

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-After you.

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-WHISTLING

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-That'll do, good girl.

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-Here, Tess.

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-That'll do.

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-That'll do, that'll do.

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-OK, here, Tess.

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-That'll do.

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-That'll do.

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-Slowly.

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-When does lambing take place?

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-It begins in December

-and carries on until May.

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-It begins with the pedigree

-Charollais in December...

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-..but for these, it's late January.

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-You're choosing lambs to send away -

-lambs weighing 40 kilos or more.

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-Let's hope there are a few!

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-Stand.

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-It's a nice type of sheep.

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-Continental lambs have a nice shape.

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-Now, I'm struggling with what type

-of ram to use with them.

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-Should I keep them as pedigrees?

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-Their weight is good.

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-They're 45 kilos on average,

-maybe a little more.

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-It's so nice to see a fine lamb.

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-Yes, and I like a dense fleece.

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-Yes, that's fine.

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-There's something about lambs

-with a dense fleece.

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-They have a better appearance.

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-Not quite big enough.

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-Have you been feeding them

-concentrates?

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-No, just grass.

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-I try to re-seed a little

-every year.

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-I feel I get my money's worth

-from grass.

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-The lambs do better

-and they're healthier.

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-You must have fresh grass

-in order to fatten lambs.

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-You want them to grow

-to the correct weight.

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-You have to pick lambs

-when they're the right weight...

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-..before they lose condition.

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-Their weight is up to standard.

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-My favourite job

-is marking the best lambs!

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-What did people say

-about standards, years ago?

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-"It's the ones John West rejects

-that make John West the best!"

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-You've been busy

-erecting new fencing.

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-It makes the old fencing

-look untidy!

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-It does the job, though.

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-Let's take a look at the cows.

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-That gate hangs nicely.

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-Yes.

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-This is very nice grassland,

-full of clover.

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-This was sown four years ago.

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-Are these the suckler cows?

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-Are these the suckler cows?

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-Yes, they're calving at the moment.

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-You've chosen British Blue.

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-Yes, the breed suits my purposes.

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-It's a good suckler breed.

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-They need to be good milk producers.

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-Continental calves

-need plenty of milk.

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-It's a nice type of cow.

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-What sparked your enthusiasm?

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-I lived and farmed

-with my grandfather...

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-..but my grandfather's farm

-wasn't big enough.

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-So I did other work to bring in

-an income, such as selling cake.

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-I worked away from the farm

-and visited other farms.

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-But I just wanted to work at home.

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-To run your own business?

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-Yes, that's what I wanted.

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-My heart wasn't in my work.

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-Then this opportunity came up,

-so we went for it.

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-We still have a long way to go.

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-How long have you been here?

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-It'll be five years, next year.

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-You started at a young age.

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-I was 24 years old.

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-Young enough to be a member

-of the Young Farmers' Club!

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-And today, are you just as keen

-as you were when you started?

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-Yes, this is where I want to be.

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-Of course, I have a young family -

-Bedwyr - to consider.

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-I don't want Bedwyr

-to be in that situation.

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-If he wants to farm...

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-..I hope I'll have enough work

-to keep him at home.

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-That's fair enough.

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-What do you have here?

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-Yearling rams, for selling.

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-Send the dog after them.

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-Did you breed them?

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-Yes, apart from two stock rams

-that I bought.

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-You're keen on the Charollais breed.

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-Yes, they're the right length

-and weight, and lambing is easy.

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-How big is your flock?

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-You have Charollais and mules.

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-You have Charollais and mules.

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-Dolly mixtures!

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-When I came here first...

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-..I had to decide what to keep,

-what type of sheep.

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-I made a mistake, initially.

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-I should have known the land wasn't

-good enough for certain breeds.

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-It's taken until now

-to get into the swing of things.

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-Your background isn't

-completely agricultural, is it?

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-My mother was a farmer's daughter...

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-..but Dad couldn't tell

-sheep from cows!

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-Well, he knows, now!

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-He comes here to help out.

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-Why did you become interested and

-where did you get your education?

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-I've been following you around -

-you're doing a good job.

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-It began with my grandfather.

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-It began with my grandfather.

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-Where was that?

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-Llandudno Junction.

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-The farm was called Wern Wen.

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-Taid has been a great help.

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-I turned to him for advice.

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-He'd tell me, "You don't want

-to spend that much!"

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-I can see what he means.

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-Water troughs, for example.

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-If a trough is leaking, I turn off

-the water and fix it myself...

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-..because I'm the one who's paying!

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-You have the freedom and the desire

-to develop the farm.

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-You have the time.

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-You have five years' experience.

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-I'm not at a stage where

-I can spend money and make changes.

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-I've been extremely fortunate...

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-..and I'm grateful to the Penrhyn

-estate for what they've done.

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-They took a gamble on me -

-I was a young lad.

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-I'm extremely grateful

-for what they've done for me.

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-Michael and Gwawr's farm

-is in a splendid location...

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-..at the foot of Snowdonia,

-but also close to the sea.

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-When Michael wants a break

-from his work...

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-..he comes to Felinheli,

-or Port Dinorwic...

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-..where he fishes for lobsters.

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-Do you come here regularly?

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-There's a man who lives locally

-who helps on the farm.

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-He has a boat.

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-It's nice to go out on the boat

-for an hour or two.

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-I like something like this,

-but I'm not keen on water.

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-When I have a bath, there's

-just enough water to wet my feet!

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-I prefer a shower.

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-Is this the boat?

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-Is this the boat?

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-Yes, this is the boat.

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-How are you!

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-How are you!

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-Good morning.

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-Alright?

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-Alright, Dave?

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-You're welcome.

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-You're welcome.

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-Are we ready?

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-# On Huw Puw's barge

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-# Who wants to go to sea... #

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-No, I'm not going with them!

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-A coward looks after himself!

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-But it's interesting to see how

-Michael and his friend farm the sea.

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-# See the wonders of the world,

-places like Pwllheli

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-# Porthmadog, Nefyn, Abersoch,

-Red Wharf Bay, Felinheli

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-# Beaumaris, Amlwch and Llanon

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-# Caernarfon and Holyhead

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-# New Quay, Solva, Fishguard... #

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-This is a shore crab.

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-These are caught off the headland.

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-They're cooked, frozen,

-and exported to Spain.

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-Dei can have that to take home.

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-# Fa la la la la la

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-# Fa la la la la la la fal la la

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-# Fa la la la la la

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-# Fa la la la la la la... #

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-Mmm - what could be better

-than a lobster, fresh from the pot?!

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-Ffridd Farm is under new management

-and new ideas are needed.

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-Michael is part of a business

-that promotes Welsh lamb.

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-Eight of us have come together

-to set up a meat company.

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-We're trying to improve the value

-of our lamb...

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-..and to increase sales.

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-People view lamb as a joint of meat

-eaten by the family on Sundays.

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-When it's cooked well,

-you can't beat it.

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-But we have to move with the times.

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-Everything moves on.

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-We have to move on with our lamb,

-or we'll be left behind.

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-The flavour of lambs that have been

-reared and slaughtered at home...

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-..is so much better than any

-ordinary shop-bought lamb.

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-From time to time, the company's

-partners meet to discuss plans.

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-He doesn't want the meat

-to arrive too early in the morning.

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-Are we happy with this?

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-Very happy.

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-Very happy.

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-Do you want to add anything?

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-That needs to be in Welsh.

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-Oh, yes.

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-The Welsh lettering in white.

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-The Welsh lettering in white.

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-Welsh should come first.

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-Good gracious, what a crew!

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-How are you?

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-Very good.

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-Something smells nice.

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-Is this the meeting you mentioned?

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-Two were unable to come today.

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-Getting everyone together

-is difficult.

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-I can imagine.

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-What's the name of the company

-and the scheme?

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-We all run family farms.

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-Our aim is to improve value

-for the farmer.

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-We're trying to develop

-a scheme for processing.

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-We want profits

-to come back to the farmer.

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-Lambs are our investment...

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-..and we want to make sure

-that what we do...

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-..earns money for the farmer and

-helps to maintain our family farms.

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-Our prosperity as Welsh farmers...

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-..relies on the success

-of our lamb sales.

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-Anything we can do

-to increase the demand for lamb...

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-..will have a positive effect

-on family farms.

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-I feel there's a lot of work

-to be done in this country...

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-..to put lamb

-back on the weekly menu...

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-..for families

-throughout the country.

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-That's our aim - to put lamb

-back at the top of the menu.

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-All our produce can be cooked

-in under 20 minutes.

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-We're trying to appeal to people

-who live busy lives.

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-And everyone

-wants things like chillies.

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-We're trying to come up

-with new recipes.

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-Burgers?

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-Burgers, meatballs -

-anything, really.

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-We know what children are like,

-they love burgers.

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-If you put a piece of meat in front

-of them, they don't know what to do.

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-But if you give them a burger,

-they'll eat it.

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-There are things we hadn't imagined.

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-We've learned

-about people's shopping habits...

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-..and how they respond to packaging

-- what sort of things attract them.

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-It's been thought-provoking.

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-In my view, our landscape

-adds a great deal to our produce.

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-Also, there's the fact...

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-..that we're trying to take care

-of our own produce...

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-..trying to take it further

-than the farm gate.

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-Facebook and Twitter

-have been very useful.

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-We launched our own page.

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-We've done marketing

-at the Royal Welsh.

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-We'll be taking part

-in the Conwy food festival.

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-It's important that we go out there

-and talk to our target market...

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-..and listen to what people say.

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-We want the money

-to come back to the farmer.

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-Farmers are always

-on the bottom rung of the ladder.

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-Money filters down...

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-..but by the time it reaches

-the farmer, there isn't much left.

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-Money is skimmed off

-on the way down.

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-It would be nice to see

-direct profits.

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-That's our aim.

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-Perseverance pays in the end.

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-Renovation can cause

-loss of character.

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-But Michael is working

-with the Glastir scheme...

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-..to renovate the farm

-using traditional methods.

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-The old ways are sometimes better -

-and easier on the eye.

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-You're patching the wall.

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-It's a new wall,

-built under the Glastir scheme.

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-Was there a gate here,

-to let animals through?

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-No, there was just a small wall,

-about a foot high.

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-It needs to be higher.

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-How long will it be?

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-From the bottom,

-all the way up to the pylon.

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-You'll need plenty of stone!

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-You'll have plenty of work,

-lifting stones!

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-This will keep you busy.

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-This will keep you busy.

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-Glastir is giving us plenty of work.

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-It's a good thing.

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-I'm sure it is.

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-It's a pleasure to see

-such a well-built wall.

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-It provides good shelter

-for sheep and other animals.

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-What... ?

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-That tile goes all the way up.

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-That tile goes all the way up.

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-We begin at the bottom.

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-We're pulling it down

-and rebuilding, but higher.

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-You have lovely old outbuildings,

-but you always need more.

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-You can never have

-too many outbuildings.

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-You can never have too many sheds.

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-You can never have too many sheds.

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-So you're building a new shed.

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-Yes, hopefully.

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-We're building a shed

-and a silage pit.

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-You've started clearing the ground.

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-Building a new shed

-involves an awful lot of work.

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-And it has to fit in

-with the old sheds.

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-The old sheds were fine for a while.

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-But I wish I'd had more

-when I started.

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-For example, a young man needs

-money to buy stock, initially.

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-I preferred to spend my money

-on sheep and cattle...

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-..things which would bring in

-more money.

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-But sheds are useful.

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-I could have spent money

-on a tractor...

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-..but I didn't need a new tractor.

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-I didn't have any stock, initially.

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-I could have done with more money

-to buy stock.

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-That's where I struggled.

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-That's where I struggled.

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-That makes a lot of sense to me.

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-You're also building a silage pit.

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-A silage pit, yes.

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-A shed and a silage pit.

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-Silage for the cattle?

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-Silage for the cattle?

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-Yes, and for the sheep.

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-I hope the silage turns out well.

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-We'll see.

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-We'll see.

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-I wish you all the best with it.

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-There's lots of slate

-from local quarries on the farm.

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-Rebuilding this fence is hard work,

-but well worth the effort.

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-This looks like a tough job.

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-I regret starting it!

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-It didn't seem so bad

-when I started.

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-Was it something you had to do?

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-Did you have any choice

-regarding the type of fence?

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-No, it's part of the Glastir scheme,

-so it must be rebuilt.

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-How old are those poles?

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-A hundred years old or more.

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-A hundred years old!

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-A hundred years old!

-

-I'd say so.

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-You won't have to do it again

-for a while.

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-They were popular, years ago.

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-Unlike a wooden fence,

-slate doesn't rot.

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-Unlike fencing posts.

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-Is this type of fence

-common in the area?

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-Yes, there are lots in this area.

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-There are slate quarries locally,

-such as Penrhyn.

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-There's also Dinorwig quarry.

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-The work is laborious, though.

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-There's a lot of work involved,

-but it'll be nice when it's done.

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-It adds character to the farm.

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-From blue slates to blue lobsters!

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-In the kitchen, it's lunchtime.

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-The water's boiling.

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-Do you want me to put it in?

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-I don't like things like this!

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-I'll put it in, whiskers first.

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-Right, it's in.

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-We can hear it boiling.

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-How did you meet - were you

-brought up on a farm, Gwawr?

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-Yes, a farm in Llanefydd.

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-Yes, a farm in Llanefydd.

-

-In Denbighshire?

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-So you're accustomed to farming.

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-You have more of an agricultural

-background than Michael.

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-Yes, I was raised on a farm.

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-I've gone back to work, part-time.

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-I work as a PA.

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-Excellent.

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-It gives you

-somewhere different to go.

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-You go your separate ways

-during the day.

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-That means you're more eager

-to see each other in the evening!

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-Is it still moving?

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-Let's hope it's not!

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-It's on its back.

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-If it's still moving,

-something's wrong!

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-How do you know when it's ready?

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-Is it fully cooked?

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-Mmm, nice!

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-It's nice.

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-It's nice.

-

-We'll have salad to go with it.

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-It's very nice!

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-Lovely!

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-Lovely!

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-When you saw this place,

-when you began to work the farm...

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-..there must have been

-an element of risk to consider.

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-Yes, it's been hard work...

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-..and sometimes we've wondered

-where the next penny will come from.

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-But it's what

-we've always wanted to do.

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-So long as we can pay the bills

-and carrying on living here...

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-..we'll be happy.

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-Yes, that's what life is like

-on this farm.

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-We see remnants of yesteryear,

-but they're planning for the future.

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-I wish all the best to Michael

-and Gwawr and little Bedwyr.

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-Michael is showing a lot

-of enterprise on this farm.

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-He has rolled up his sleeves

-and he's doing his very best.

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-I wish them all the best

-in their efforts, as a family.

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-Let's hope the Almighty will allow

-me to return to see the results!

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