Episode 15 Debatable

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Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show

where talk is cheap, but celebrity chat

can win a contestant money.

Today, one player must answer

a series of tricky questions, to try to bag a jackpot of ?2,000.

But they are not on their own, as they will also have

a panel of celebrity brainboxes debating their way to the answer.

Will they help or will they hinder? Well, that is debatable.

So, let's meet them.

On today's show, we have actress...

We have weather presenter...

And writer and broadcaster...

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It's looking intelligent already, I have to say, Carol.

It's the glasses. It is the glasses.

I've got my prop glasses, as well. Sunetra, what happened?

It's all an act. It's all an act. It is. Acting intelligent today.

Best of luck today. That's our panel.

Let's meet today's contestant.

It is James Beckles, from East London.

James, you got the note.

Yeah, I did, yeah, thanks.

I think a bit of telepathy there. What is going on here?

You are the smartest contestant we've ever had.

Thank you. Yeah, sartorially, but I'm not sure about intelligence,

but we'll see. So, James, tell us a little bit about yourself.

I'm from Stratford, I'm 34 years old and I work as

a policy officer for the General Pharmaceutical Council.

Now, obviously, you have higher aspirations than this show.

I'm a local councillor in my local area.

So, I'm representing people, trying to do my little bit.

With the expenses that you'll be claiming as an MP... Yes.

..you won't need any of this cash. No.

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What do we make of our Cabinet that we have here today?

Oh, they're a fine selection. I put my faith all in them.

Let's see what happens.

Spoken like a true politician, James. Thank you very much.

There we go. Best of luck, James.

Let's get this Debatable show on the road and we play Round One.

So, this round, James, is multiple choice.

Each question has four possible answers,

only one of those answers is correct.

Helping you, it says, find the answer is our panel.

Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

It's entirely up to you.

There's two questions in this round.

Each correct answer is worth ?200.

OK. Ready to play? I am. Let's go.

Here we go. OK, let's get cracking.

Obviously, we have a politician up there.

Yep. I think I'm going to go for Marilyn Monroe.

OK. Now we don't need an answer yet.

Sunetra is stroking her chin in a knowing way.

Oh, no, let's not mistake that stroke for a knowing look.

Let's clarify that from the off. OK.

Let's see what our panel make of this, James.

Your debate starts now.

Do you know what? I think it could be Marilyn Monroe because I remember

reading something recently in the papers

about her, it's her birthday. It would have been...

How old was she going to be, then? Yeah.

Well, I thought... Was it 90? No, I think it's older.

Yeah, I think it's 90 cos I thought, gosh, she's the same age as my mum.

Sorry about that, Mum. Or, she's the same age as the Queen.

That would have been helpful.

Oh, oh! Anyone know the Queen, to ask her?

I mean, she'd be... She can't be our Call A Friend, can she?

I know Marilyn Monroe is definitely an era a little bit before Elvis.

Elvis was born in the '30s.

I think I know that because my mum was born in the '40s and she

always talks about... Yeah, so I think Elvis

is '30s, which would make him how old now?

Well, in his eighties. Would that make him eighties?

Yeah. If it was... So who are we eliminating?

Maggie's gone. We're getting rid of both the Maggies.

OK. I think it's Marilyn. Do you? Yeah.

50, 60, 70, 80, 90. Would people not make a thing of that, though?

You see, now I'm torn between Elvis and Marilyn.

Who thought you'd ever hear yourself say that?

Guys, I'm making a decision. OK. OK.

Our decision is Marilyn Monroe.

I love the way you seized that, Carol.

You just took charge there.

Marilyn Monroe.

Is Marilyn Monroe the same age as Carol Kirkwood's mum and does

that make the Queen Carol Kirkwood's mum?

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Yes. Well, actually... I didn't like to say.

They are going with Marilyn Monroe, James.

Well, it's good that they've come round to my way of thinking.

I'm going to stick with Marilyn and, yeah, Marilyn Monroe, it is.

OK. You have gone for Marilyn,

our panel has gone for Marilyn, we're all in agreement.

This will never last.

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Let's see, for ?200, is Marilyn Monroe born in the same year

as Queen Elizabeth II?

It's the correct answer.

Well done, panel. Thank you. Well played, James. We're up and running.

The Queen and Marilyn were both born in 1926.

And we have a little photograph of them, actually, meeting.

There they are. That's Marilyn curtseying there

and that's the Queen going, "I think that dress is

"slightly lower cut than mine."

You're up and running, James.

?200 in the bank, well played.

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OK, here comes your next question. Again, for 200.

How's your sports knowledge, James?

Not very good, especially

when it comes to food references there.

Crumpet, bagel...

I'm going to go for...

Crumpet.

Good confidence there.

But obviously our panel are going to sort this out quite quickly.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Well, there is a lot of crumpet, I would say, in tennis,

I have to be honest. Ooh, that's a good way...

You've got a point there. I think...

I don't know if that would be a term, though.

A sufficient term. I know.

When they say term, do you think they mean a term within the scoring

and the etiquette or do you think it's like

a friendly term that they use within the sort of off-court...?

I don't think it's a casual tennis thing. You don't think...

I think it's official. Like deuce, which isn't on our list.

Yeah, deuce would be helpful here, wouldn't it?

I'm going to throw something out there.

Go on. I don't think it's crouton, crumpet or baguette.

I think it's bagel. Do you?

I think that bagel is like a zero, I think it's a love.

I think it's another name...

Like, if you lose a game to love or you lose a set,

if you get nil points, then it's like a bagel, right?

I would say it was possibly bagel, based on what Rick's just said.

OK, let's, by the process of elimination,

get rid of what we think.

So crouton we think no? No. I can't see what crouton would be used for.

Crumpet, we think no?

Even though James is thinking it is, I'm not sure now.

If it's not British...

James was, in his own words, very confident...

Yeah, crumpet. What's your answer?

Well... Give me one, give me one.

I think bagel. I think bagel is when you get no points.

Sunetra, what do you think?

Oh, do you know, I started off thinking crumpet

and I'm now heading towards bagel, as well.

OK, our final... I appreciate that support.

I think our final answer is bagel. I think so, too.

Our panel have gone with bagel. How's that?

I'm just trying to think of every Wimbledon game I've watched.

You know, 15 love and a crumpet. But...

I think I'll go with the panel and pick bagel.

You're going to go with the panel again. Yep.

Rick looking slightly more nervous.

Unrest in the panel here. I'll get my apologies in early.

For ?200, is bagel a term used in tennis?

It is! Wow! It is.

Well played, Rick.

The term is used to describe a win in a set where the score of 6-0.

Crumpet is what Carol Kirkwood describes Roger Federer as.

No comment.

Slightly different.

Well played, though, James.

That's ?200 banked,

bringing your total up at the end of that round to ?400. Well done.

So, 100% record.

How do we think our panel's doing so far?

Oh, they're doing well. Love their debating style and,

yeah, keep going, guys.

OK, James, it is time for Round Two.

Round Two is our picture round.

All you have to do is put three pictures in correct order.

It sounds simple. It does. But believe me, it's not.

There are two questions in this round.

Each correct answer's worth ?300, so here we go.

Ever been to Italy, James? I have and my girlfriend's Italian.

She's from Sicily, so she'll probably kill me

if I don't get this question right!

Colosseum's in Rome.

I think that's closer to London.

Then I'd go for Rialto Bridge and Mount Etna, which is in Sicily.

What's your girlfriend's name? Zara.

Zara. Is she going to be watching today? Yes, she will.

Yes, she is. I'm going to be forcing her.

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This question may not.

Let's see what our panel make of this one, guys.

Your debate starts now.

Well, I've seen Carol with a map many a time

so I might actually start off with asking you, Carol.

What do you think? Defer to you, Carol.

Well, first of all, the Rialto Bridge is in Venice.

Yep. I've been there and stood in it.

Mount Etna is in the middle of Italy. Ish.

Right. And the Colosseum is in Rome.

Yeah. So, looking at a map, Italy is here,

Venice is in the Po Valley, so I would say

the Rialto Bridge is the furthest away, because

you've got Italy in the way.

If you've got the boot. Yeah. Rome is sort of halfway down the boot,

isn't it? Yes. So, that's the Colosseum.

So, this is the boot. Rome is... Hang on.

Like... Is that the wrong boot?

You're the wrong way round. Is that the boot?

Yeah. It's like here somewhere. OK. Right.

And then Venice is at the top. In the corner.

And then, surely, is Etna...

I think James is right, I think Etna's Sicily, isn't it?

Which is like the football at the bottom of the boot,

isn't it? So, we think... Carol...

Let's put them in order. So closest to London, next,

and then furthest away. So it is where we are?

But... Yeah, but I could be completely wrong. Oh, what?

I would go Rialto Bridge, Colosseum, Etna

and I know no-one else agrees with me but that

is what I would go for. OK. Sunetra, what do you think?

I'm thinking Colosseum, Venice and Mount Etna, as well.

I'm thinking of swapping those two round.

OK, well, the panel have decided

on what we have here, which is the Colosseum,

Mount Etna and the Rialto Bridge.

Are you sure? I don't like that. No! I'm not sure!

But it's what we're going for.

I love the fact that Carol said "The panel decided..."

So, Carol, you're ignoring the other two panellists.

Do you know what, Patrick, I'll go into work

and be spectacularly sacked, if this is wrong.

No, you won't. You'll be great.

They are suggesting the Colosseum, then Etna,

then the Rialto Bridge. You don't have to go with them.

I'm going to stick with Colosseum,

Rialto Bridge and Mount Etna.

For ?300, is that the correct answer?

The wrong order. Let's see what the correct order is.

No! The Rialto Bridge, the Colosseum and Mount Etna.

As we now have a little look at Carol's face

and Rick trying to hide his smugness, on the end.

I don't want to dwell on it. No point dwelling on it.

The Rialto Bridge in Venice,

707 miles from London.

The Colosseum is 892 miles,

and then, Mount Etna is in Sicily, Rick.

It is 1,202 miles away.

Unfortunately, you did get that question wrong,

so you still have ?400 in your prize pot.

Never mind. Never mind. Let's see if we can get it up

with our second picture question. Here we go.

Now, what we need to answer this question, we need an actor

who's appeared on a BBC series.

I have actually been in Doctor Who, as well.

Oh, hang on... James, what are we thinking?

I don't remember William Hartnell.

Initial thoughts, I'm going to go for Tom Baker,

William Hartnell and David Tennant.

OK. Let's see what our panel can bring to this.

Your debate starts now.

Right, OK. Have you any inside knowledge at all?

Well, inside knowledge enough to know that Tom Baker did it

for many, many more years than David Tennant.

He was in it when I was a child and seemed to be in it forever.

Who was your Doctor? Tom Baker. Who was yours?

Borderline Peter Davidson/Tom Baker.

I got a slightly tough deal, I was Colin Baker. Ah!

And then, actually, Sylvester McCoy,

who I really liked.

Notice how we've all given away our age with that one answer.

At least none of said William Hartnell, that's good.

William Hartnell was the first Doctor.

How long was he in it for?

I think we can safely say

Tom is the one who's done the most.

Our question, really, is do you think William Hartnell

was a long enough Doctor Who

to have been on it for more

than two years of David Tennant?

I think he probably was. I mean, don't know.

I'm going to go against you both, I think they made such few episodes

back in those days. A series wasn't 24 episodes.

That's a plausible argument.

It was eight episodes or ten. Let's try and make a decision, then.

Put that on your end. OK.

Let's go with this. OK, panel? We're happy with that decision?

I'm going to go like this, but they are going to go like this.

Can we maybe just do this? That's not a very team thing to say.

OK, all right. I wasn't saying that with the Italy question, was I?

OK, the panel have decided, safety in numbers, here, that

we're going for David Tennant,

William Hartnell and Tom Baker, in that order.

OK, panel. They're going for David Tennant,

William Hartnell and Tom Baker.

Now, bearing in mind that Sunetra is the only one of our panel that

has appeared in Doctor Who

and has been ridden roughshod over by Carol Kirkwood...

Well, we've analysed it well, Patrick.

What do you make of that? I like Sunetra's rounding of it.

Also, she's an actress, so she probably knows.

I think I'm going to go for William Hartnell, David Tennant, Tom Baker.

OK. So you're going against the panel. Going against the panel.

If that is correct, it's another ?300 in the prize pot.

Let's see if it's the correct order.

It's the wrong order.

Let's see the right order.

Should have gone with the panel.

It's David Tennant, William Hartnell and Tom Baker.

David Tennant, 59 episodes,

William Hartnell, 143 episodes,

and the definitive Tom Baker, 178 episodes.

You were so close to working that one out, James, but, don't worry,

there's plenty more opportunities to get the cash up.

At the end of that round, your prize pot is still ?400.

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Now, based on that round, who's performing best?

Rick. Clearly.

I didn't want to say it!

There's still plenty of time and there's still

another ?1,000 up for grabs in Round Three.

In this round, you'll face questions that contain a statement

about a person, a place or a thing,

but only one of those statements is true.

You have to find which one that is.

Now, there are two questions in this round, because

it's the final round, we're going to up the cash

to ?500 per correct answer.

So, best of luck. Here it comes.

What's your initial thought, there, James?

B, retractable claws.

OK. Any particular reason for that?

They're animals, four legs, they've got claws.

Possibly retractable. And I don't know if dogs sweat.

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Don't like to get too close.

Foxes, they tend to chase foxes.

Would you do that with your cousin? I don't know.

In my family, perhaps. OK. Let's see if our panel can come up

with anything on this one.

The debate, guys, starts now.

I wish this was about cats. Yeah, me too, yeah.

Cats have the retractable claws.

I don't know if dogs do, because you hear them

padding, don't you, when they're running?

I'm useless, here. I'm really scared of animals

in general, all animals. So I don't look at them,

I try not to have eye contact in case they...

I, funnily enough, played a vet a couple of times.

When I'm filming and they say "Action,"

I'm fine, I can touch the dogs, and as soon as

they say "Cut," I'm like that.

When you've been touching the dogs, have they ever been sweaty?

Well, this is interesting.

I think dogs, maybe they're not dripping with sweat,

but they definitely got very hot and so, therefore,

slightly damp. But they pant, don't they?

Because they can't lose heat, so there's just that...

"I haven't got any sweat glands..." Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Are they related to foxes? I'd say cats are related to foxes

and dogs - maybe, wolves?

Foxes look, to me, they look more like dogs than cats.

You're going for foxes. I mean, foxes look like dogs.

OK, let's make a decision. I'm sticking with foxes, sorry.

Sunetra?

I'm going to say sweat glands, just to be controversial.

I'm going to say sweat glands, too.

So, the panel's final decision, we might regret this, is they

have no sweat glands.

So, Sunetra, absolutely petrified of all animals,

has now become an expert on dogs.

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Has any of that helped or hindered?

I liked Rick's panting, that kind of swayed me towards...

It was just... "I haven't got any sweat glands."

I'm going to go with the panel, gut instinct

and say, have no sweat glands...

due to the panting.

You think that dogs have no sweat glands.

For ?500, do dogs have no sweat glands?

Oh, no!

Dogs are related to foxes.

You should have gone with Rick.

The most sweat glands in a dog are around their paw pads.

Dogs do not have retractable claws.

Dogs and foxes both belong to the Canidae family.

There they are, getting along like my family at Christmas.

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Unfortunately, you didn't get that right, James,

but there is still ?500 up for grabs in the final question of this round.

Your prize pot remains at ?400.

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OK, here we go.

Concentrate, people.

Let's try to get this cash up. Here it comes.

C. That was quite definite. Yeah.

Any particular reason?

It's a Spanish name and I'm going to go with

the Spaniards and say golden coast.

It's a quick answer. He's thinking golden coast.

Panel, over to you. Your debate starts now.

I can see why you'd go for that, and I'd be headed for

there myself, actually, quite literally.

Golden coast. I think Costa, coast... Have you been?

I haven't, actually, no.

It's a part of the world I haven't...

I have been. Oh. And this is the kind of thing

where you could humiliate yourself, but I'm pretty sure

it was an island, and on that basis it is not going to share

a border with Guatemala. Yes, actually.

I think Costa Rica's an island. Yeah.

So, do you think it has no army? Do you know what, I didn't run

into the army. That's not to say they didn't have one.

Where do you think Costa Rica is in the world?

Over to you, Maps! South America.

Come on, Maps! Oh, no, the pressure.

After what happened the last time, I think I'm...

I'll tell you one thing... Which is the most innocuous one there?

I'm pretty sure it's not Guatemala,

because Guatemala shares a border with Mexico.

Yes. And also, I mean, Costa Rica's an island, so...

So that one's gone. Get rid of that.

Has no army. We don't know. Golden coast, we definitely know

coast does sound like...Costa.

Any... Can you think of any French word

that's like Rica? What's the French word for gold?

Sometimes there is a crossover between French and Spanish.

Or. O-R. Or. Is the root to do with rich?

Being rich, having gold?

Golden. That's very plausible.

I think we can amicably say we're agreed on this one.

So, the panel's decision is the name is Spanish for golden coast.

OK. They think it is golden coast.

Which was the answer you went for really quickly.

I'm wishing I'd learned Spanish instead of French, so I'm going to

go for C and say golden coast.

OK, we are all in agreement. Who knew?

For ?500, is Costa Rica Spanish for golden coast?

No! It's the wrong answer.

Costa Rica has no army.

As we all know,

Costa Rica borders... It's not an island. Good stuff.

It's not an island, Rick. It borders Nicaragua and Panama.

Guatemala is further north.

The name is Spanish for rich coast.

So I'm afraid, James, that was the wrong answer.

It means you're going to be playing for ?400 in today's final debate.

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So, ?400, James, what would you do with that amount of money?

Well, the way London prices are,

that's going to be my train ticket home.

That is... LAUGHTER

There's just one question that stands

between you and that train ticket home.

The good news is, you're not going to be playing alone.

This is the final debate and so, we're going to allow you

to choose one of these fine human beings to help you, from our panel.

So, based on our last question and all the questions today,

who would you like to join you in the final debate?

Like the panting by Rick, liked the hand shape of Italy,

but I'm going to go with Carol.

Carol. Carol, would you please join us for the final debate?

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So, Carol, James has chosen you for the final debate.

You look confident and ready.

It's all an act!

Because this is the final debate, James,

we're going to give you two categories to choose from.

Here you go.

I hate Numbers, so I'm going to go for Film.

Great. I would rather go for Film rather than Numbers, as well.

Definitely. OK. You've chosen Film.

So, for ?400,

45 seconds on the clock, here is today's final debate question.

James and Carol, for the final time, your debate starts now.

Oscars, not BAFTAs. Oscars, not BAFTAs. Moulin Rouge didn't, did it?

No, I think Rocky won Best Writer, I think that was Sylvester Stallone.

Braveheart... Braveheart, I don't

think Braveheart did. I think The King's Speech did.

I think Mel Gibson got two Oscars for Braveheart.

Gravity. Gravity won lots of things, didn't it?

Spanish director, I can't remember his name.

And he's won twice, not sure if it was Best Director or Best Movie.

15 seconds. Jaws was brilliant in its day, as well.

Spielberg, you can't go wrong, really.

So, let's start making some decisions, Rocky, do you think?

Rocky, Braveheart, Jaws.

I would go with that, as well. Let's hope it's right!

OK. James, I need three answers.

OK, I'm going to go with Carol's good advice.

Jaws, Rocky and Braveheart.

Jaws, Rocky and Braveheart.

Please be right. Here we go, for ?400.

Let's start with Rocky. Did Rocky win Best Picture at the Oscars?

It did.

Rocky won Best Picture in 1977.

Well done, we're up and running.

Next was Braveheart.

Is Braveheart a winner of Best Picture at the Oscars?

It's a correct answer.

Won in 1995.

So, two out of two, but we do need three correct answers,

in order to get the ?400.

Please let it be right! Please let it be right.

You then said Jaws, with Carol's help.

If Jaws is the correct answer, you leave with 400.

If it's not right, I'm afraid you leave with nothing.

Did Jaws win Best Picture at the Oscars?

Oh, no! It was nominated in 1976, but it didn't win.

The correct answer was The King's Speech. Oh, no!

The King's Speech won in 2011.

I'm so sorry, James. But you've been a great player.

It's been fantastic. Thanks a lot. Give it up one more time for James.

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That's it for Debatable.

There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

to Carol Kirkwood, to Sunetra Sarker and Rick Edwards.

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I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.

Start the clock. Name this show.

BUZZER Top Class.

What is it?

BUZZER A new quiz show.

Which channel is it on?

BUZZER CBBC.

Yes!

The search for the UK's smartest school is on.

It's a triumph!