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Mon, 21 Aug 2017

Bydd Alun yn gofyn a yw merched yn cael digon o gydnabyddiaeth o fewn y sector amaeth. New series. Alun asks whether women get enough recognition in the farming world.


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-Women influence every part

-of agricultural life...

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-..but sometimes, they don't get

-the acknowledgement they deserve.

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-Is there equality for men and women

-in the agricultural world?

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-Is there a change in attitudes

-on the horizon?

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-We'll discuss the matter further

-during the programme.

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-Also on the programme,

-Daloni visits Carmel, Llanrwst...

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-..to see how one family has halved

-its time in the milking parlour.

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-And Meinir visits Sennybridge

-to see how horses are being used...

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-..for bracken bashing.

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-There's been a lot

-of recent debate...

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-..comparing the status

-of men and women in the workplace.

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-Women receive a lower salary

-than men for the same work.

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-Men also tend to be given

-better jobs.

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-What's the situation

-in the agricultural world?

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-How has the role of women

-changed over the years?

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-It's definitely better

-than it was in the old days...

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-..but there is a long way to go.

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-I don't want to see another

-generation of women missing out.

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-It was a very different situation

-years ago.

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-Personally, I don't believe

-there is an issue now...

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-..with women

-feeling under-appreciated.

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-I'm part of a generation

-where all genders are respected.

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-We need a lot of people to say, "No,

-we need more women in the industry."

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-We need to work harder on that.

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-According to the latest figures,

-almost 25,000 women manage farms.

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-That's 28% of the farming workforce

-across Britain.

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-Let's consider the situation

-of women in agriculture.

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-Lesley Griffiths is the

-Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture.

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-She wants to see more women

-leading the industry.

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-Professor Christianne Glossop is

-the UK's Chief Veterinary Officer.

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-There are many other women

-prominent in the industry...

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-..but only men have ever risen to

-become presidents of the unions...

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-..or chaired Meat Promotion Wales

-since their inception.

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-In the Royal Welsh Show,

-the FUW held a seminar...

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-..on the changing role of women

-in agriculture.

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-Baroness Eluned Morgan

-led the debate.

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-Women influence every part

-of agricultural life...

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-..but sometimes, they don't get

-the acknowledgement they deserve.

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-Today has shown that they want

-the acknowledgement...

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-..but often, they don't get it.

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-Today, the FUW have organised

-this seminar...

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-..to focus on the issue.

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-There's a call on the unions

-to step up...

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-..and ensure that women's voices

-are heard on their committees.

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-Women need the confidence

-to move forward.

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-Women work hard to raise a family.

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-It's not easy to attend meetings

-at night because of certain issues.

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-Hopefully, the women

-who want to contribute...

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-..have the opportunity to do so.

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-More women are attending

-agriculture courses than men.

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-That's a significant factor.

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-We had a lot of women here

-at the top of the industry.

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-There's a long way still to go,

-but it's starting to come.

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-At the Show, NFU Wales presented

-the 2017 Welsh Woman Farmer award.

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-Victoria Shervington-Jones

-is a poultry farmer from Newport.

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-Sioned Lloyd works for the NFU

-in Llanrwst.

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-It all started 21 years ago.

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-The original idea was to

-promote women in agriculture...

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-..and the agriculture industry

-in general.

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-Men were dominating the industry

-at the time.

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-Have you seen the situation changing

-over the past 21 years?

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-Yes, to be honest. A lot of women

-are part of the industry right now.

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-They've realised that they can

-run agricultural businesses.

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-More women have joined the industry.

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-The fact that the award

-is given every year...

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-..encourages women

-to join the industry...

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-..and shows that they can

-succeed in the industry.

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-Olwen Ford from Llanfrothen

-is a beef and sheep farmer.

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-She runs the farm

-while her husband is an electrician.

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-Tell me more about your route

-to agriculture.

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-I'm lucky to be a farmer's daughter.

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-I had an older brother

-who was given first refusal.

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-I went to Glynllifon and at that

-time, girls learnt how to type...

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-..sew, knit...

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-..and cook.

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-These days,

-they don't have to do that.

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-It was obvious at that time you were

-trained to become a farmer's wife.

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-We did some work

-with cattle and sheep...

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-..but there was a feeling that

-you were becoming a farmer's wife.

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-Is there any difference in the way

-a woman is treated at the mart...

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-..in terms of the price paid?

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-Not really. It's down to the way

-you deal with the stock.

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-You'd expect the same price

-on a flock of sheep.

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-I've done better with cattle...

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-..but that's down to the way

-they've been handled...

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-..and not because I'm a woman.

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-It depends on the mart. The attitude

-of the auctioneer make a difference.

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-There are some marts where

-you know you'll have a hard time...

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-..just because you're a woman.

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-What about the future, Olwen?

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-Do you feel we've moved on in terms

-of the woman's role in agriculture?

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-Is there still some way to go?

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-The Assembly needs to move on this.

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-They phone up and ask

-to speak to Mr Ford.

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-He tells them they need to speak

-to Mrs Ford about the farm!

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-Letters are addressed to Mr Ford.

-The contact name is Olwen Ford.

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-You'd expect them to know

-that Olwen is a woman.

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-Anwen Hughes from Llanarth started

-farming after leaving school.

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-She's the

-FUW Ceredigion County Chair...

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-..and part of Farming Connect's

-Women in Agriculture Forum.

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-Hello, Anwen. How are you?

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-Hello, Anwen. How are you?

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-Very good.

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-Women in agriculture.

-You're one of them.

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-You're very prominent.

-How did you get into agriculture?

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-I've always had an interest

-in agriculture.

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-After having a fourth child,

-childcare was becoming a burden.

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-I decided to return to farming

-and send my husband out to work.

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-You've broken up

-the traditional roles of farming.

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-What happens at home?

-Who cooks? Who irons?

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-Me. I do the housework

-and paperwork.

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-I also look after the day-to-day

-management of the farm.

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-From your experience, in an industry

-that's still dominated by men...

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-..how have you felt over the years?

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-I've found it quite challenging

-in some ways...

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-..to prove that I know

-what I'm doing...

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-..and gain respect

-from other farmers.

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-When you look at the movers and

-shakers from within the industry...

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-..is it a true reflection of gender

-in the agriculture industry?

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-Unfortunately, no.

-It's male-dominated.

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-That's the pity with the FUW.

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-It's quite sexist,

-if I'm allowed to say that.

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-There is a place for women

-to come in.

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-Women are pushing their way in

-slowly.

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-When you sell stock, do you hear

-any comments from the men?

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-I take store sheep and older sheep

-to Crymych and Cardigan.

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-They see me coming

-and they praise me every time.

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-They always give me a warm welcome.

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-How does the future look for you,

-in terms of women?

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-Things have changed but

-have they changed for the better?

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-Yes, things have changed.

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-Yes, that change has been

-for the better...

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-..but that change is taking time.

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-There's a place for us

-to prove ourselves again.

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-Women are able to do the work

-and with mechanisation...

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-..there's no reason

-why we can't do a lot of things.

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-If you have sensible systems

-to deal with cattle...

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-..there's no reason

-why a woman can't do a man's job.

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-The days of having to be strong

-to succeed have gone.

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-Ability is far more important.

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-It doesn't matter

-if you're a man or a woman.

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-Like every other industry...

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-..there are inconsistencies

-in the way women are treated...

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-..but there is no sexism...

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-..in the price of a litre of milk

-or an animal in the mart.

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-It can be argued

-that salary levels are fairer.

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-After the break, we find out

-how a 250,000 investment...

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-..has changed the lives

-of one family from Llanrwst.

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-Cutting costs

-and lightening the workload.

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-Those are two main aims of farmers

-we've spoken to on Ffermio.

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-Making farming and life easier.

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-Two brothers in the Conwy Valley

-have done just that.

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-They've created a system...

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-..where they halve

-the time it takes to milk every day.

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-Llwyn Goronwy Farm,

-Carmel, Llanrwst...

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-..is home

-for Gareth and Elgan Evans.

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-The brothers are the third

-generation here.

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-They farm 400 acres in total.

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-Father Brynmor used to keep

-500 sheep and milk 80 cattle.

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-To support two families, they had to

-make changes to the farming system.

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-They increased their Holstein herd,

-initially to 150.

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-In 2012, they decided

-to go for it in earnest.

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-They changed their milking system,

-built tracks across the farm...

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-..and almost doubled the herd

-to 280 cattle.

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-Why did you change

-your milking system?

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-We were looking to improve

-our profitability...

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-..and make better use of the land

-we have here.

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-We wanted to make better use

-of the grass we grow here.

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-We felt we weren't doing so

-at the time.

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-What kind of system is this?

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-It originated in New Zealand.

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-They calve during springtime,

-within 12 weeks.

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-Have the cattle changed?

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-They're a lot smaller,

-they used to be around 750 kilos.

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-The cattle we have now

-are 550 kilos mature weight.

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-Why have you gone

-for a different type?

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-It's a more fertile animal.

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-It can calve to a tighter schedule.

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-Because of the farm's landscape,

-there's a long way to walk.

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-We're 800ft above sea level here

-and the farm rises to 1,100ft.

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-You need a fitter cow

-to walk around.

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-I saw farms in New Zealand

-using this system on similar farms.

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-We decided to give it a go.

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-How many litres do you produce?

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-About 6,000.

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-We used to produce 9,500.

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-That's a huge difference.

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-We keep a lot more cattle

-per hectare.

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-The land produces more milk

-per acre.

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-We're more concerned with

-the yield of the land than the cow.

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-Is the quality of the milk better?

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-Yes, the protein levels

-and fat content have risen.

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-Less milk is being produced

-by each cow...

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-..you're still better off

-financially.

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-Yes, in a way.

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-We don't spend so much

-on concentrates for the cow.

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-It's milk from the land.

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-The two brothers received a subsidy

-from the New Entrants scheme.

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-My brother and I were partners in

-the business and we were under 40.

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-We had up to 15,000

-in grant money to spend.

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-We constructed tracks

-for every field...

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-..and renewed the water tanks

-for every field.

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-How does it work in terms

-of the value of the milk...

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-..since you calve all the cattle

-at the same time?

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-Well, yes, we concentrate

-on the cost of producing the milk.

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-That's why we calve

-during the spring.

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-We're getting value from the grass.

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-We have the grass on the farm.

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-When you need cake,

-you know you'll have to pay for it.

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-You need to secure a good price

-for the rest of the year.

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-You won't get any income from milk

-for 12 weeks.

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-Well, yes, you average out the year

-when you're doing your sums.

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-That works better for you

-in Llwyn Goronwy.

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-Yes, it doesn't suit everyone

-but it suits our farm.

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-There's a lot

-of sloping land here...

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-..and it's easier

-for the cattle to graze there...

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-..than if we have to go on it

-with heavy machinery.

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-Even though the system has been

-simplified and works well...

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-..it was still time-consuming.

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-It used to take eight hours a day

-to milk.

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-Most of the working day

-was spent in the milking parlour.

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-To improve profitability...

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-..they had to look

-for a different milking parlour.

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-After an investment of 250,000,

-about 1,000 per cow...

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-..and new parlour was constructed.

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-We did a lot of research work,

-we looked at every robot system.

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-When we made proper enquiries

-and invited the reps here...

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-..that's when the seed was sown

-for the rotary system.

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-We wanted a long

-herringbone system...

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-..but that would have required

-two people to man it.

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-We finally chose the rotary system.

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-It's a huge investment.

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-Yes, it was.

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-We felt it was a 20-year investment

-for the future.

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-We've been guilty in the past

-of working to a small scale.

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-This parlour is big enough

-to milk 400 cattle.

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-That might happen in the future,

-we don't know.

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-If you're saving five hours

-of manpower a day...

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-..that's 35 hours a week.

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-That's one yearly salary.

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-Yes, when you look at it like that.

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-They spend much less on salaries

-at Llwyn Goronwy these days.

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-Gareth and Elgan are free to do

-some contracting work after calving.

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-Have your lives changed?

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-Yes. On the weekends,

-we're done by 6.30pm.

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-We used to work until 8.00pm.

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-There's more time for other things.

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-Can you see a brighter future,

-Gareth?

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-We hope so. We try out best. Dad

-established the business years ago.

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-We're trying to take

-the business forward.

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-We hope we can pass it on

-to the next generation.

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-I have two boys. Who knows

-what they want to do in the future?

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-Bracken is a huge problem

-for conservationists and farmers.

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-Natural Resources Wales

-has found a different method...

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-..to control this troublesome plant.

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-At the Craig Cerrig-Gleisiad

-National Reserve in Sennybridge...

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-..bracken has spread

-across the land.

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-To avoid using chemicals

-and heavy machinery...

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-..the reserve decided to use

-a natural method.

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-According to Natural

-Resources Wales...

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-..one of the most effective ways

-of controlling bracken...

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-..is a workhorse and a roller

-to bruise the stems.

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-One of the problems we have here is

-controlling the bracken on the site.

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-It's worsened

-over the past few years.

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-I think it's a problem across Wales

-in upland areas.

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-With less cattle in upland areas,

-it made the situation worse.

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-The bracken tends to grow over

-other plants.

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-We've recorded over 500

-different plants on this site...

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-..but the bracken

-is taking over the site.

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-We're using the machinery

-you can see behind us.

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-It bruises the bracken stems.

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-It goes over the bracken

-like some kind of roller...

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-..and that releases sap

-from the plant.

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-That can be more effective

-than cutting the bracken.

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-If you cut it,

-it grows back even stronger.

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-When we bruise the bracken...

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-..the plant will weaken

-over the years...

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-..and it gives other plants

-the chance to grow underneath.

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-How many acres can you cover?

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-About ten acres a day

-using four horses.

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-It's not a lot, but it's a lot

-when you're only using horses.

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-Is there a difference between

-using a horse, as we are today...

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-..and using a motorbike

-and a weed wiper?

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-Horses can walk on slopes

-that are a lot steeper.

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-It wouldn't be safe for a motorbike.

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-This is also a nature reserve.

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-We're trying to move away

-from using chemicals if we can.

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-When we use the horses,

-people come and see us at work.

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-Hundreds, if not thousands,

-visit this site every year.

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-By doing this work, it helps people.

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-It provides better access

-along the paths...

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-..and it attracts people

-from the cities to the countryside.

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-That's great for mental health

-and physical health.

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-How much of a reduction have you

-seen in the number of animals...

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-..grazing on the site,

-be they horses, sheep or cattle?

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-Overgrazing can be as much

-of a problem as no grazing at all.

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-We see areas where the growth

-of bracken increases every year...

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-..and we lose the presence of cattle

-from the upland areas.

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-Gethin Havard from Llwynrhys farms

-some of the nature reserve's land.

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-We've battled the growth

-of bracken for centuries...

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-..to limit it in order to grow food.

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-Naturally, it grows on dry land...

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-..land we could be utilising.

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-As we keep less and less animals

-in the mountains, problems increase.

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-It is a cause for concern.

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-It's poisonous,

-it can harm animals...

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-..it can harm people too.

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-We need to try and solve

-this problem if we can.

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-How much has the level of bracken

-changed in your time as a farmer?

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-The situation changed when

-the quality of the land improved.

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-This land wasn't grazed

-for 15 years.

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-It was burnt twice.

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-The trees grew back

-and we'll be back...

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-..in the great forest of Brecknock

-soon as we were centuries ago...

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-..before man interfered

-with the land.

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-The bracken is spreading,

-as you can see.

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-Unfortunately, we don't have enough

-animals to tread on the bracken...

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-..and bruise it.

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-How much of a difference

-have you seen so far?

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-We've seen a huge difference.

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-In the areas

-where bracken has been bruised...

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-..you can see other plants

-appearing already.

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-It gives them more of a chance

-to grow over the next few years.

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-Is it something any farmer can do?

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-It's something any farmer can do.

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-If you have mountain land

-where bracken is a problem...

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-..farmers can use

-the same method effectively.

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-The scheme has only just started.

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-What is Gethin's view on the method

-Natural Resources Wales uses...

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-..to control the problem?

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-We've turned back the clock.

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-There will be an expense. I'm not

-sure how effective it will be.

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-I don't think

-this is the way forward, personally.

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-Sheep can control

-their environment.

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-Unfortunately,

-no sheep have grazed here...

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-..for 25 years.

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-If you introduced sheep now,

-ticks could be a problem.

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-Ticks tend to live in bracken

-and they could infect sheep.

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-It is a problem. Ultimately, if

-bracken takes hold in this area...

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-..nothing else will grow.

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-You must find an effective way

-of controlling bracken.

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-Otherwise, you'll struggle

-to attract walkers...

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-..and produce food here.

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-We've already seen the problems

-that arise because of bracken.

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-There's been a lot of debate

-about keeping the balance...

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-..between conservation

-and food production.

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-We'll tackle this issue further

-later in the series.

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-Until next time,

-thanks for your company.

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-Cheerio.

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