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-Yr Eifl in Llyn.

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-2,000 years ago...

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-..people lived here...

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-..in a hill fort.

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-The hill fort was the home of

-the Welsh before the Romans arrived.

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-The home of our ancestors

-and our nation's forefathers.

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-There were more than

-1,000 hill forts in Wales.

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-Wales today

-wouldn't have existed without them.

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-But without written records...

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-..how much do we really know

-about these people?

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-How did they come to live here?

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-Who were their ancestors?

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-There's a new way

-of trying to answer those questions.

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-And its name is DNA.

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-DNA Cymru.

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-Cardiff,

-Europe's youngest capital city.

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-On the outskirts of the city is one

-of the biggest housing estates...

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-..to be built

-after the Second World War.

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-Trelai. Ely. My birthplace.

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-On the other side of Cowbridge Road,

-Caerau, my old stomping ground.

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-This is where I went

-to primary school.

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-It was an

-English-medium school back then...

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-..but now it's a Welsh school.

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-Yes, the place has changed somewhat

-but it was always exciting.

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-As a child,

-it was the centre of the world.

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-I had an undoubtedly

-modern upbringing in a modern city.

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-But in Wales,

-the past is never far away.

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-Above the houses

-are the ruins of another community.

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-A community not everyone

-knows about, but in its heyday...

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-..it was one of

-the biggest communities in Wales.

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-It would've dominated the landscape.

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-The perfect vantage point from

-which to keep an eye on the world.

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-Standing here and surveying the view

-is quite a thrill for an Ely boy.

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-Nowadays, only its ruins remain...

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-..but the memory of its history

-is encapsulated in its name.

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-Caerau (Forts).

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-Forts from the Iron Age.

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-This is

-what has attracted archaeologists.

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-The people of this hill fort

-were sophisticated...

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-..though

-they didn't record their history.

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-Who were they

-and who were their ancestors?

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-To retrieve the answers,

-we must rely on proof...

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-..that wasn't documented

-at the time.

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-Caerau and its name

-is an example of that proof.

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-Linguistic proof that has

-survived in the Welsh language.

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-The archaeologists' work

-is another important example.

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-But as we endeavour to learn more

-about our country's natives...

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-..a new tool is becoming

-even more important every day.

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-That tool is DNA.

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-DNA was the basis

-of our first programme.

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-Who are the Welsh?

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-It's a simple question

-with a complicated answer.

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-To discover the truth...

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-..we had to venture

-far beyond Wales.

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-The truth is,

-we all belong to the same family.

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-An African family.

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-We had to trace the family's

-heroic journey to Europe.

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-Throughout the centuries

-and the millennia.

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-Among the Iron Age people

-of the Pyrenees...

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-..were the

-great-great-great-grandmothers...

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-..of the modern Welsh female.

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-The project is ambitious.

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-The project is ambitious.

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-From the north to the south.

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-From the Ice Age to the iPhone age.

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-Revealing the DNA results

-of some of the nation's greats.

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-Mr Gareth Edwards,

-there's no mention of New Zealand.

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-Thank goodness for that.

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-And sparking an interest

-in people's genealogy.

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-I'm a Celt at heart.

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-I'm a Celt at heart.

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-A Celt, I'd say.

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-But it was a project

-which spawned something else too.

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-A fierce argument

-from various directions.

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-Doubts about the programme

-on the nation's DNA

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-UTTER NONSENSE!

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-To those familiar with

-the technique of phylogeography...

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-..it's a common argument.

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-To people like me who have used

-phylogeography for 25 years or so...

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-..it's a bit like

-dealing with Creationists.

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-The foundations

-of phylogeography are solid...

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-..according to

-DNA Cymru's principal scientist.

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-It's part of his daily work

-at Edinburgh University.

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-This is a very routine method

-that has been used widely...

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-..to understand past population

-movements of humans.

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-Phylogeography

-was the underpinning...

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-..of the out-of-Africa

-theory of human origins.

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-It's a project between S4C,

-the Trinity Mirror group...

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-..publishers of the Western Mail

-and the Daily Post...

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-..and Scotland's DNA

-that is conducting the tests.

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-Spit is the basis of the tests.

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-My sample's ready.

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-In this laboratory, together

-with everyone's else's samples...

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-..the DNA will go through a process

-to look for special patterns...

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-..in our genetic code.

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-It's the biggest study

-of Welsh people's DNA.

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-We can form a detailed picture

-of Wales's current population.

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-But it's our belief...

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-..that the tests can also go deeper

-into our ancient history...

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-..to reveal brand new stories.

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-It's a way of looking into the past

-when we look into Welsh DNA.

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-We're peeling back these layers.

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-We can try to understand

-what went on in prehistory...

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-..the people in the Bronze Age

-and the so-called metal ages.

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-What the contribution

-of the farming peoples were...

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-..the peoples

-who were before farming.

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-We can try to tease apart these

-components in the British gene pool.

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-But not everyone agrees.

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-A team

-of very influential scientists...

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-..is trying

-to dismiss our interpretation.

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-They say it's no more scientific

-than creating a story.

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-But for Professor Martin Richards...

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-..author of dozens

-of academic science papers...

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-.."story"

-isn't a word that deters him.

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-I regard that as an endorsement.

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-All good science is storytelling...

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-..and storytelling is the most

-interesting form of discourse...

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-..so long as, in a scientific case,

-we tell true stories.

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-Without a time machine we can't know

-exactly what happened in the past.

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-But that applies

-to all historical sciences...

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-..not just to genetics.

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-We must use the present

-to learn about the past.

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-Some dispute the tests' worth

-to the individual.

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-Some claim we're putting

-people's Welshness to the test...

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-..and that the project is endorsing

-extreme nationalism and racism.

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-Debate is healthy...

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-..but hopefully anyone

-who's watched the programme...

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-..can clearly see that it's

-not our intention to be racist.

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-Everyone is welcome to join us.

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-The tests are available to everyone,

-irrespective of your background...

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-..or how recently

-you've moved to Wales.

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-Wow, that's just incredible.

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-The test's worth to the individual

-is a personal matter.

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-That's too much

-for my brain to take in.

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-We'll return to that

-later in the programme.

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-DNA Cymru's focus is to learn more

-about the nation's history...

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-..and early results show...

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-..that the country's genetic profile

-is very typical.

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-Since our broadcast back in March...

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-..another project

-has published striking results...

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-..based on a study

-of present-day Britons.

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-Here at Oxford University,

-a pioneering study is under way.

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-Who are British people?

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-It's an ongoing study

-that has taken 12 years.

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-By now, they've mapped the influx

-to the British Isles...

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-..from the end of the Ice Age.

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-They've also shown that

-the difference between Britons...

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-..is very interesting.

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-But for us in Wales, it's

-shed new light on our history.

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-So, first of all, Sir Walter...

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-..tell us about the project

-and how you got involved.

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-It started

-with a Welsh connection.

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-I was asked to give a key lecture

-for the British Academy...

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-..where they have people who know

-something about Celtic origins.

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-I lectured

-on the genetics of the Celts.

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-What we're looking at is the people,

-the ordinary person on the land...

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-..and not the nobleman,

-not the lords, not the warriors.

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-What genetics does is give you

-a picture of people as a whole.

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-People of the British Isles, POBI.

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-By analysing

-the DNA of 2,000 people...

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-..POBI has created a map of genetic

-clusters that are closely related.

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-You could say,

-"What's the group of people...

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-"..that are most similar

-to each other genetically?"

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-When we've got those,

-what's the next most similar?

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-That's what this clustering

-that leads to this map is about.

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-What about Wales and these clusters?

-Have you found something remarkable?

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-Wales is an interesting story.

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-If you go down the list to

-the next most different and so on...

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-..Orkney stands out.

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-What's striking is the next

-biggest different was Wales.

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-POBI and DNA Cymru are in agreement.

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-The Welsh are the closest inheritors

-to the people...

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-..who came to the Britain between

-the Ice Age and the hill-fort age.

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-The two approaches

-are complementary.

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-POBI has looked across the genome

-at the autosomes.

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-We focused on the Y chromosome...

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-..on our lineage

-inherited down the father line.

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-By putting the two together,

-you get a good overall picture.

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-But POBI suggested something else.

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-Something

-which is no surprise to many of us.

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-The genetics of Northwalians

-and Southwalians are different too.

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-There are more

-genetic differences between them...

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-..than there are between people

-in Kent and northern Scotland.

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-POBI's findings about the

-inhabitants before the Romans...

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-..is quite surprising.

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-In the Celtic cultures...

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-..of Northern Ireland, Scotland,

-Wales and Cornwall...

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-..we see genetic groups in each

-region but they're different groups.

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-Although there are

-similarities in culture...

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-..genetically they're different.

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-The Cornish are more similar

-to the English than the Welsh.

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-The People of the British Isles

-and I differ in the interpretation.

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-They were looking to check whether

-the Welsh and the Scottish...

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-..were more closely related

-to one another...

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-..than either was to the English,

-which is a question.

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-But if the English themselves had

-a significant Celtic component...

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-..which they do, then that question

-becomes a bit more muddled.

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-POBI believes

-that it would've been possible...

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-..to differentiate between the DNA

-of those in a North Wales fort...

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-..and the DNA of the inhabitants of

-Caerau in a South Wales hill fort.

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-But the genetics of both groups

-are very different...

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-..from the DNA of people

-in Cornwall, Scotland and Ireland.

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-The outcome of the research...

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-..conducted by POBI...

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-..suggests there's no

-close connection between the Celts.

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-However, DNA Cymru's research

-supports the notion...

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-..that we're still cousins.

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-Wales, 2,000 years ago.

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-The tribes of Ancient Britain

-lived on the land.

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-They farmed, hunted and fished.

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-There are no written accounts

-of their lives...

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-..but their home was the hill fort.

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-But who were these people?

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-Descendants of the first people who

-came to Britain after the Ice Age?

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-Or were they great-grandchildren

-of the first farmers...

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-..who came thousands of years later

-to start our farming tradition?

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-Or were they the children of those

-who came later still...

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-..who brought the secrets

-of smelting metal with them?

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-A new culture,

-and one which we refer to as Celtic.

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-Our research suggests

-that the hill fort's population...

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-..was a mix of the three groups.

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-The early pioneers, the farmers...

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-..and the metal workers.

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-Aided by three people

-who've taken DNA Cymru's test...

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-..namely Ken Owens,

-Caryl Parry Jones and Roy Noble...

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-..we'll focus on the history -

-the history of our nation's roots.

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-As you age, these questions arise

-and they become more important...

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-..and more frequent.

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-Who are you? Where do you come from?

-Where are you going?

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-More than anything,

-what's your background?

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-There's far more interest nowadays.

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-There's far more interest nowadays.

-

-Throughout the world...

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-..more than two million people have

-taken tests similar to DNA Cymru's.

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-Tests on the DNA

-we inherit from our parents.

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-As the mother and father

-pass on the DNA...

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-..98% of it gets mixed up...

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-..and re-combined all over again.

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-It's hard to tell

-who it's come from...

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-..looking back over the generations.

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-So the main focus

-is that small percentage of DNA...

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-..which is transferred

-without getting mixed up...

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-..from father to son, and

-to his sons - the Y chromosome DNA.

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-Another fragment,

-the mitochondrial DNA...

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-..which passes unchanged

-from mother to children...

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-..and from her daughters

-to their children.

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-Scientists

-can identify genetic markers.

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-Small changes that have occurred

-through the generations.

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-A technique

-called phylogeography is used...

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-..to map its course against

-mankind's journey around the world.

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-Genetic markers split mankind

-into different groups.

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-The scientific term for this

-is haplogroup.

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-But tracing the bloodline

-on each side of the family...

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-..poses a problem for us.

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-By focusing on the mother

-of your mother's mother...

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-..and father

-of your father's father...

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-..we ignore many other ancestors.

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-As we look back

-through the generations...

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-..there are

-hundreds of thousands of them.

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-What are the tests' purpose

-and what forms the foundation...

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-..for the historical conclusions

-of phylogeography?

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-The great majority of scientists

-believe that phylogeography...

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-..is an ordinary method

-amongst many...

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-..to try to understand our past.

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-It's used in plant and animal

-genetics, in human genetics...

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-..even in virus genetics

-to try to understand...

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-..where a flu virus has come from.

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-No-one can argue...

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-..that the distribution of different

-genetic lineages across geography...

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-..does not contain information

-about genetic ancestry.

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-Phylogeography

-was the underpinning...

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-..of the out-of-Africa theory

-of modern human origins.

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-Long before archaeological evidence

-confirmed this...

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-..phylogeography

-identified a form of family tree...

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-..which traced

-the mitochondrial DNA...

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-..of all women on the planet

-back to one mother in Africa...

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-..200,000 years ago.

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-This isn't the only example.

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-The mitochondrial tree...

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-..shows the point at which

-lineages start branching.

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-For example, amongst Native

-Americans 15,000 years ago...

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-..which fits well

-with the archaeological evidence.

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-Those lineages

-that mostly come out of East Asia.

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-Or you can see lineages that start

-branching out in to the Pacific...

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-..about 3,000 years ago,

-which are lineages...

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-..that come out of southeast Asia

-and the New Guinea region.

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-Many examples, not just

-the out-of-Africa example...

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-..which is supported by evidence.

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-For reasons

-she doesn't yet understand...

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-..I've come to the Severn estuary...

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-..for a stroll

-with Caryl Parry Jones...

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-..to reveal the results

-of her ancient DNA.

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-We're all aware

-of two generations ago...

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-..but we know mostly nothing

-about our ancestors before that.

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-The prospect of tracing prehistory

-is hard to imagine, to be honest.

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-Well, Caryl, here are the results

-of your mitochondrial DNA.

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-Your mother's lineage.

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-"The U haplogroup was common amongst

-the first people in Europe...

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-"..after the Ice Age."

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-After the Ice Age.

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-After the Ice Age.

-

-Well, well.

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-10,000 years ago, people returned

-to Wales to hunt as the ice melted.

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-But how scientific is linking the

-DNA of an individual like Caryl...

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-..to the history of ancient hunters?

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-Only 1% of Caryl's DNA

-is found in the mitochondria.

0:19:560:20:00

-But it's passed on to her

-through her mother's line...

0:20:000:20:04

-..with few changes throughout the

-millennia from the Mesolithic Era.

0:20:040:20:08

-I've heard critics describe...

0:20:080:20:10

-..identifying your Y chromosome

-lineage as homeopathy.

0:20:110:20:14

-It's simply false.

0:20:150:20:17

-It may be only telling you a very

-tiny fraction of your ancestry...

0:20:170:20:21

-..but it's something

-people can fix on to.

0:20:220:20:25

-It's nice having

-that tiny bit of information...

0:20:250:20:29

-..which I never thought

-in a million years belonged to me.

0:20:290:20:34

-Any link with

-any part of a person's history...

0:20:340:20:38

-..is worth its weight in gold.

0:20:380:20:40

-Life is short...

0:20:400:20:43

-..so any information

-about where we've come from...

0:20:430:20:47

-..is something very precious.

0:20:470:20:50

-To bring

-the era's history to life...

0:20:500:20:53

-..we've arranged for Caryl to visit

-a site at the Severn estuary...

0:20:530:20:57

-..with Dr Ffion Reynolds

-from Cardiff University.

0:20:580:21:02

-Goldcliff

-is a prime area of significance...

0:21:020:21:07

-..from the Mesolithic Era.

0:21:070:21:09

-Evidence is in short supply...

0:21:100:21:12

-..but one of the things

-that's survived from this era...

0:21:120:21:16

-..is a collection of footprints.

0:21:160:21:19

-This is a child's footprint.

0:21:200:21:22

-That's the big toe,

-the other toes...

0:21:230:21:26

-..and that's the heel.

0:21:270:21:28

-A small child's footprint.

0:21:280:21:31

-It brings

-the Mesolithic Era to life.

0:21:320:21:35

-Many footprints

-are facing that way...

0:21:350:21:40

-..and others are heading

-in this direction too...

0:21:400:21:43

-..to an area

-where they fished with fish traps.

0:21:440:21:48

-They collected the fish

-from the traps...

0:21:480:21:51

-..and headed back this way

-to the camp...

0:21:510:21:54

-..around 7,500 years ago.

0:21:540:21:56

-..around 7,500 years ago.

-

-Whoa!

0:21:560:21:57

-Wow, that's just incredible.

0:21:580:22:01

-That's too much

-for my brain to take in!

0:22:020:22:05

-Just imagine a small child,

-barefoot...

0:22:050:22:08

-..running back and forth with

-Mam and Dad and all his friends.

0:22:080:22:12

-Caryl's connection with Mesolithic

-women goes way, way back in time.

0:22:130:22:17

-But the era's men

-have also left their mark...

0:22:180:22:21

-..on Wales today.

0:22:220:22:24

-One of the oldest lineages

-is rather rare.

0:22:240:22:27

-It's a lineage called S185.

-It's just the marker name.

0:22:270:22:31

-It's really rare.

-Only 0.2% of Welshmen carry this.

0:22:310:22:35

-It's at least 6,000 years old.

0:22:350:22:37

-This is before farming

-from the Mesolithic Era...

0:22:370:22:40

-..a very distant time in the past.

0:22:400:22:43

-We still see a few people

-who carry these types.

0:22:430:22:47

-Caryl's results from her mother's

-lineage are far more common.

0:22:470:22:51

-We're seeing slightly different

-male and female histories...

0:22:510:22:55

-..from looking at the Y chromosome

-and the mitochondrial DNA.

0:22:550:22:59

-They're

-interesting genomes to study.

0:22:590:23:02

-It speaks to a history of males...

0:23:020:23:05

-..that is different

-from a history of females.

0:23:050:23:08

-Why did people move around?

0:23:100:23:13

-What were they searching for? What

-was the purpose of their migration?

0:23:130:23:17

-People from the Mesolithic Era

-were hunter-gatherers.

0:23:170:23:21

-The biggest difference...

0:23:220:23:23

-..between them and those who

-came next, the Neolithic farmers...

0:23:240:23:28

-..is that they moved around

-and moved seasonally to find food.

0:23:280:23:33

-There was an island behind here...

0:23:330:23:37

-..and a forest at the top...

0:23:370:23:39

-..where people could

-hide in the bushes and hunt deer.

0:23:400:23:44

-Trees and deer were

-relatively new things, were they?

0:23:450:23:48

-Yes, because the ice had gone...

0:23:480:23:50

-..the temperature was rising...

0:23:510:23:53

-..there was lots of vegetation

-and lots of new foods.

0:23:530:23:57

-I can imagine

-all these people on this island...

0:23:570:24:01

-..but was there more to life

-than eating, hunting...

0:24:010:24:05

-..and averting danger?

0:24:050:24:07

-I think people in the Mesolithic Era

-were very clever.

0:24:070:24:11

-They were quite sophisticated.

0:24:110:24:15

-They could make tools from flint...

0:24:150:24:18

-..which is hard to do nowadays.

0:24:190:24:21

-Their technology

-was complex and sophisticated.

0:24:210:24:25

-Some people were performers.

0:24:260:24:28

-Maybe your ancestors

-were performers.

0:24:290:24:32

-A Mesolithic noson lawen! Some

-would argue it hasn't move on!

0:24:320:24:37

-.

0:24:400:24:41

-*

0:24:440:24:44

-The hill fort, the ancient home

-of the tribes living in Wales...

0:24:440:24:49

-..before the arrival of the Romans.

0:24:490:24:51

-We're tracing the ancestral history

-of the people who lived there.

0:24:520:24:56

-10,000 years previously,

-after the Ice Age...

0:24:590:25:03

-..people returned to Wales

-and survived...

0:25:030:25:06

-..by moving around to hunt for their

-food and search for wild plants.

0:25:070:25:12

-Later, some 6,000 years ago...

0:25:160:25:19

-..things changed.

0:25:190:25:21

-This was the age

-of ancient monuments...

0:25:260:25:29

-..such as that

-in Pentre Ifan, Pembrokeshire.

0:25:310:25:35

-In Bryn Celli Ddu on Anglesey,

-there's more proof...

0:25:360:25:39

-..about the big changes

-that happened in Wales.

0:25:400:25:43

-Somehow, people had found the time

-and resources to settle here...

0:25:430:25:48

-..to build on a grand scale...

0:25:490:25:51

-..and reflect

-on the world around them.

0:25:520:25:55

-There was one principal reason...

0:25:550:25:58

-..for their prosperity.

0:25:580:26:00

-Farming.

0:26:010:26:02

-Growing crops

-and rearing tame animals.

0:26:030:26:06

-Looking around Anglesey nowadays...

0:26:090:26:11

-..one can understand why farming,

-using the land to generate wealth...

0:26:120:26:17

-..and sustain society made sense.

0:26:180:26:20

-This landscape

-wouldn't have existed.

0:26:200:26:23

-There wouldn't have been

-towns and villages...

0:26:230:26:26

-..if people had to constantly move

-around to search for sustenance.

0:26:260:26:30

-It's claimed that agriculture began

-in the Middle East...

0:26:310:26:35

-..where the land was very fertile.

0:26:350:26:38

-But how did farming reach Wales?

0:26:380:26:41

-Did people

-share ideas between communities...

0:26:410:26:45

-..until neighbouring areas

-realized the benefits?

0:26:450:26:49

-Or did the people themselves move?

0:26:490:26:53

-That is to say, was there a new wave

-of migration to the British Isles?

0:26:530:26:58

-Here in Bryn Celli Ddu, the National

-Museum has organised activities...

0:26:590:27:04

-..to celebrate the Solstice...

0:27:050:27:07

-..when the light of dawn

-illuminates an unusual stone...

0:27:080:27:12

-..at the back of the chamber.

0:27:130:27:16

-People can see the type of clothes

-and tools used by the new farmers...

0:27:160:27:21

-..who erected the monument.

0:27:210:27:23

-Archaeologists are here too.

0:27:250:27:27

-They've unearthed

-a stone axe from France...

0:27:270:27:30

-..among other objects

-which proves the earliest farmers...

0:27:300:27:34

-..must have traded overseas.

0:27:350:27:38

-From the pattern

-on the stone itself...

0:27:380:27:41

-..we can say that

-the architects of Bryn Celli Ddu...

0:27:410:27:44

-..shared ideas with people as far

-away as the Orkneys and Portugal.

0:27:450:27:49

-Every shred of evidence...

0:27:500:27:52

-..about

-our ancient history is precious.

0:27:530:27:56

-It sparks the imagination...

0:27:560:27:58

-..and it also leads

-archaeologists and scientists...

0:27:580:28:02

-..to re-evaluate

-the lives of our ancestors.

0:28:020:28:05

-The most exciting information

-is currently being sought...

0:28:060:28:10

-..from DNA research.

0:28:100:28:12

-Here at Trinity College, Dublin...

0:28:130:28:15

-..they're extracting DNA

-from ancient bones.

0:28:150:28:20

-We're sequencing 30 samples across

-the whole prehistory of Ireland.

0:28:200:28:25

-It's almost like dropping

-a plumb line through history.

0:28:250:28:30

-Tests on the ancient Irish...

0:28:310:28:33

-..is likely to shed light on the

-big questions of Welsh history too.

0:28:330:28:38

-Enabled by marvellous new machines

-that can sequence human genomes...

0:28:380:28:43

-..in days as opposed to decades...

0:28:430:28:45

-..we're at a time when questions

-will be addressed quickly.

0:28:460:28:50

-Ancient DNA has been a game changer.

0:28:500:28:53

-We're now at the next level

-in our understanding of the past.

0:28:530:28:58

-We can make the most

-of ancient DNA by comparing it...

0:28:580:29:01

-..to modern DNA as well.

0:29:020:29:04

-Gathering all the information

-allows you to learn the most.

0:29:040:29:08

-There's one problem about looking

-at the present to study the past.

0:29:080:29:12

-That is, essentially,

-the past is a different country.

0:29:120:29:16

-That the models we bring up from the

-present to understand the past...

0:29:160:29:22

-..may miss big things.

0:29:220:29:25

-The big thing for me

-was the genome of Otzi, the Iceman.

0:29:280:29:33

-When Otzi's body was discovered

-in the Alps in 1991...

0:29:340:29:38

-..it provided a golden opportunity

-for scientists to study his DNA.

0:29:390:29:44

-When they compared his genetics...

0:29:440:29:47

-..to modern individuals

-across the whole of Europe...

0:29:470:29:50

-..he didn't look Alpine.

0:29:510:29:53

-Otzi's DNA profile was different

-from that of the first hunters...

0:29:530:29:57

-..who settled in the Alps

-after the Ice Age.

0:29:580:30:01

-The DNA found in the bones...

0:30:010:30:03

-..of the first farmers

-of Central Europe was the same.

0:30:030:30:07

-Those first farmers...

0:30:070:30:09

-..like Otzi,

-tend to look something like...

0:30:090:30:14

-..southern Mediterranean.

0:30:140:30:16

-The hunter-gatherers before them

-look completely different.

0:30:160:30:20

-When farming came in, something

-changed. It came with people.

0:30:210:30:25

-These great changes...

0:30:260:30:27

-..that seem to be happening

-on the European mainland...

0:30:280:30:32

-..these great waves of migration...

0:30:320:30:35

-..do those waves

-wash all the way up...

0:30:350:30:38

-..to the shores of

-the westernmost islands of Europe?

0:30:380:30:42

-And that question is of interest

-to someone in today's world.

0:30:430:30:48

-Roy Noble, who's going to hear

-his DNA results, broadcast on air...

0:30:480:30:53

-..during his radio show

-on Radio Wales.

0:30:530:30:56

-Scientists believe

-that your sub-haplogroup, G2a...

0:30:560:31:00

-..was found in the first people...

0:31:000:31:02

-..to bring farming to Europe

-from the near east.

0:31:030:31:06

-See? We were always spreading good!

0:31:060:31:09

-Linking to this G2a

-sub-haplogroup...

0:31:110:31:13

-..in 1991...

0:31:140:31:16

-..they found a body,

-later named Otzi, the Iceman...

0:31:160:31:21

-Otzi? A relative, I know it!

0:31:210:31:24

-Otzi the Iceman, right.

0:31:250:31:27

-You share that sub-haplogroup.

0:31:270:31:30

-Following the programme,

-I discussed Otzi further with Roy.

0:31:300:31:35

-You've received the results.

0:31:350:31:37

-Is it a surprise?

0:31:380:31:40

-Yes, it is,

-because we're all over the place.

0:31:400:31:43

-The G haplogroup is rare in Wales.

-Does that mean we're special?

0:31:430:31:48

-It's more common in Central Europe

-and the Caucasus Mountains.

0:31:490:31:53

-We were the earliest farmers.

0:31:530:31:56

-We brought farming here.

0:31:560:31:58

-The first farmers, you see.

0:31:580:32:00

-Roy's results

-put him amongst those...

0:32:030:32:06

-..who branched out

-across ancient Europe.

0:32:060:32:09

-He's returned to familiar territory,

-to the Black Mountains...

0:32:090:32:14

-..to reflect on his origins.

0:32:150:32:18

-As a child,

-you don't think about ancestry...

0:32:190:32:23

-..and tracing

-your genealogy down the ages...

0:32:230:32:26

-..but as you get older you realize

-what you're walking over...

0:32:260:32:30

-..who had been there before you

-and what their lives were like.

0:32:300:32:35

-You're used to

-going back centuries...

0:32:350:32:38

-..but now you're going back

-thousands of years.

0:32:380:32:41

-It's hard to take in. You're going

-back to places like Anatolia.

0:32:420:32:46

-You're talking about Russia,

-Georgia, Iraq, Turkey.

0:32:460:32:49

-The first farmers

-came through the Alps to do that.

0:32:500:32:53

-They found Otzi the Iceman

-in a cave in the Alps.

0:32:530:32:56

-They tell me

-he was one of the family!

0:32:570:32:59

-That makes me feel pretty special.

0:33:020:33:04

-I'm somewhat of a pedigree!

0:33:050:33:07

-I've been searching

-for a pedigree all my life.

0:33:080:33:10

-Roy's pedigree

-is relatively rare in Wales today.

0:33:110:33:14

-Many more men belong to

-a haplogroup that came to Wales...

0:33:140:33:18

-..after the first farmers.

0:33:180:33:21

-What was their habitat?

0:33:210:33:23

-.

0:33:270:33:27

-Subtitles

0:33:290:33:29

-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

0:33:290:33:31

-If we talk about roots, Ken,

-how would you define roots?

0:33:310:33:35

-Welsh hooker Ken Owens

-is next to help us...

0:33:350:33:39

-..trace our ancient history

-by taking DNA Cymru's test...

0:33:390:33:44

-..and sharing

-his family's background.

0:33:440:33:46

-It's quite easy on my father's side.

0:33:470:33:49

-Most of the family's

-from the Carmarthen area...

0:33:490:33:53

-..and Carmarthenshire.

0:33:530:33:55

-I have your results here, so let's

-find out exactly where you're from.

0:33:550:33:59

-I'm looking forward.

0:33:590:34:01

-But before Ken can understand

-the significance of the result...

0:34:010:34:05

-..we must meet a new group of people

-who brought a revolution to Wales.

0:34:060:34:11

-The revolutionary smelting process.

0:34:110:34:14

-The barren steppe of eastern Europe

-was the starting point...

0:34:150:34:19

-..for people's migration, according

-to the latest DNA research.

0:34:190:34:24

-Having established themselves

-in Central Europe...

0:34:240:34:28

-..it's claimed that

-the Beaker People came to Britain...

0:34:280:34:32

-..straight from Austria

-and Switzerland.

0:34:320:34:35

-But these days, focus shifts to the

-sea as the world's ancient highway.

0:34:350:34:40

-Trade was possible

-along the Atlantic coast...

0:34:410:34:45

-..from Iberia to Scotland.

0:34:450:34:47

-Is that

-how the Beaker People came to Wales?

0:34:470:34:51

-Evidence suggests that smelting

-skills were introduced to Wales...

0:34:510:34:56

-..from the sea, as is evident

-in the hills above Cardigan Bay.

0:34:560:35:00

-This is the barren Ystwyth Valley,

-inhabited only by sheep.

0:35:010:35:07

-But there's

-something else under foot.

0:35:070:35:09

-Malachite, a copper mineral.

0:35:100:35:13

-It was the metal

-in this colourful stone...

0:35:140:35:17

-..that attracted those people

-from Europe to this location...

0:35:170:35:21

-..4,000 years ago.

0:35:210:35:23

-The tools they used

-to dig for this mineral...

0:35:240:35:27

-..can still be found

-above our heads here.

0:35:270:35:31

-The tools

-have come from the seaside.

0:35:340:35:37

-Pebbles were transported here

-to serve as axes to dig.

0:35:370:35:42

-It might well have been sailors who

-brought the new age to Ceredigion.

0:35:420:35:47

-The importance of the sea, even

-though we're high above sea level...

0:35:490:35:53

-..is obvious.

0:35:540:35:56

-It's hard to imagine how these ideas

-would've been introduced...

0:35:560:36:00

-..without people migrating.

0:36:000:36:02

-According to Professor Koch...

0:36:040:36:07

-..the Beaker People transformed

-the structure of ancient society.

0:36:080:36:13

-Another group of people

-must've come, as well as new ideas.

0:36:130:36:17

-It's hard to say many people

-without more evidence...

0:36:180:36:23

-..in the form of bones and DNA,

-of course...

0:36:230:36:27

-..but it's impossible to believe

-that all these changes happened...

0:36:270:36:32

-..without people

-moving from place to place.

0:36:320:36:36

-The technique that inspired

-the metal age was very inventive.

0:36:370:36:41

-Archaeologists can recreate

-the process with simple tools.

0:36:410:36:47

-At the bottom is a fire which

-is about 1100 degrees Centigrade.

0:36:470:36:51

-In the fire

-is some crushed up copper ore.

0:36:550:36:58

-This is the mineral that was mined

-at top of the hill in front of us...

0:36:580:37:04

-..about 4,000 years ago.

0:37:050:37:07

-So that's the copper?

0:37:080:37:10

-It's hot as well.

-Do you want to feel it?

0:37:110:37:13

-It's OK, you can hold it.

-Freshly made copper.

0:37:140:37:17

-It's so heavy.

0:37:170:37:18

-It's hard to believe, isn't it?

0:37:190:37:21

-A piece of copper,

-and this is gleaming.

0:37:220:37:26

-These modern ruins show that

-men have resumed mining recently.

0:37:270:37:32

-But Wales has inherited more than an

-industry from the original pioneers.

0:37:320:37:38

-The Beaker People

-were cultured leaders.

0:37:390:37:42

-Very influential people

-were moving in.

0:37:430:37:46

-The industry spread across Wales

-and Britain as a whole...

0:37:460:37:50

-..and the majority

-of western Europe.

0:37:500:37:53

-Copper didn't happen everywhere.

0:37:540:37:56

-If people were moving in

-with a copper industry...

0:37:570:38:00

-..they had to create a network...

0:38:000:38:04

-..to connect places

-that were far apart...

0:38:050:38:07

-..which raises the question

-of how they communicated.

0:38:080:38:12

-Did they use

-a common language among them?

0:38:120:38:15

-The Beaker People came from

-the far steppe of eastern Europe.

0:38:160:38:21

-Their language laid the foundations

-of every modern language...

0:38:210:38:25

-..including Welsh.

0:38:260:38:28

-Somewhere among them...

0:38:280:38:30

-..was a baby boy

-born with a new genetic marker.

0:38:300:38:34

-A marker that is nowadays found

-within the Celtic nations.

0:38:340:38:38

-It has a very young age,

-possibly post-Neolithic...

0:38:380:38:42

-..so it'd fit in

-with the copper age...

0:38:420:38:44

-..and with the age

-of the Beaker People.

0:38:440:38:47

-What we need is more ancient DNA

-from Britain, and indeed, Wales...

0:38:470:38:51

-..from Beaker skeletons to add

-more certainty to this hypothesis.

0:38:520:38:57

-One skeleton from the Beaker age was

-found in the Wrexham area in 1958.

0:39:010:39:07

-Ever since then, the Brymbo Man's

-been a topic of discussion...

0:39:070:39:11

-..for those

-who want to understand...

0:39:110:39:14

-..how ancient people

-came to settle here.

0:39:140:39:17

-Before scientists used DNA

-to study people's migration...

0:39:170:39:23

-..and the differences between them

-in prehistory...

0:39:230:39:27

-..archaeologists studied skulls

-to extract the same information.

0:39:270:39:33

-They came to the conclusion

-that graves in the Neolithic Age...

0:39:330:39:39

-..included long skulls.

0:39:390:39:41

-Graves in the Bronze Age included

-round skulls like the Brymbo Man's.

0:39:410:39:47

-It was evidence enough...

0:39:500:39:52

-..to prove that different people

-had settled in Wales.

0:39:520:39:56

-DNA tests could reveal

-more of Brymbo Man's secrets...

0:39:570:40:02

-..but archaeologist Rhys Mwyn

-has plenty to say already...

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-..about the skeleton that was

-carefully buried in the Bronze Age.

0:40:060:40:11

-He was five foot eight in height.

0:40:110:40:13

-Yes, he was similar to us.

0:40:140:40:15

-It's a mistake to think

-they were all dwarves.

0:40:160:40:19

-He has a great set of teeth.

0:40:190:40:21

-They ate meat

-and I'm sure they gnawed at things.

0:40:210:40:25

-They didn't bury people individually

-like this before this era...

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-..with personal items

-such as a beaker.

0:40:310:40:34

-It proves that new people

-had come to Wales, doesn't it?

0:40:340:40:38

-We need to tread carefully

-when we talk about eras and so on.

0:40:380:40:42

-We're quick to date everything.

0:40:420:40:44

-They used metal

-in the Bronze Age, which is true...

0:40:440:40:48

-..but the stone knife

-is still in use.

0:40:480:40:51

-These eras blend in to one another.

0:40:510:40:54

-There are no doors

-to go in and out of.

0:40:540:40:58

-Here's a recreation

-of one of the Beaker People.

0:40:580:41:03

-Who were these people?

0:41:030:41:06

-Were they recent incomers...

0:41:070:41:09

-..or had they been here

-for centuries?

0:41:090:41:12

-It's a good question

-because the tradition changes.

0:41:120:41:15

-There are exchanges,

-commerce and migration.

0:41:150:41:20

-What's not so easy to define...

0:41:210:41:24

-..is the number

-of people who move...

0:41:240:41:26

-..in order to bring about change.

0:41:270:41:29

-You're not talking about

-an entire population...

0:41:290:41:33

-..of different races.

0:41:330:41:35

-You're talking about adopting ideas

-and sharing ideas too.

0:41:350:41:39

-I tend to think of it

-as exchanging ideas...

0:41:400:41:44

-..and a small amount of migration.

0:41:450:41:47

-But from our tests conducted on the

-DNA we inherit from our fathers...

0:41:490:41:54

-..the Y chromosome DNA...

0:41:540:41:56

-..suggest that new genetic markers

-appear in the Bronze Age.

0:41:560:42:00

-It's possible that the Bronze Age

-was a time of great inequality.

0:42:010:42:06

-That's when

-inequality arrived in Europe.

0:42:060:42:08

-It may be that we have

-these patriarchal societies...

0:42:090:42:12

-..arriving in the Bronze Age

-in which small numbers of men...

0:42:130:42:17

-..left descendants

-to future generations.

0:42:170:42:20

-It appears the Beaker men replaced

-the men who lived in Wales...

0:42:200:42:25

-..before the metal ages.

0:42:250:42:27

-One simple way

-to replace lineages...

0:42:270:42:30

-..is to kill people

-who are already there.

0:42:300:42:33

-We're talking about men

-in particular...

0:42:330:42:36

-..because we're talking about

-the Y chromosome.

0:42:360:42:39

-I don't know

-if there was violence involved.

0:42:390:42:42

-They certainly outbred them.

0:42:420:42:44

-They had more children,

-generation by generation...

0:42:450:42:48

-..till such time as now, 71% of

-Wales descend from these lineages.

0:42:480:42:54

-It's likely that Ken Owens...

0:42:540:42:57

-..is a descendent

-of one of these new Britons.

0:42:570:43:01

-Your father's lineage...

0:43:010:43:03

-..is R1b-S145 Pretani.

0:43:040:43:07

-That doesn't mean a great deal!

0:43:070:43:09

-The haplogroup

-is more common in Wales...

0:43:100:43:13

-..and is rare

-outside the British Isles.

0:43:130:43:17

-This haplogroup came to Wales...

0:43:170:43:20

-..with Beaker People migration.

0:43:200:43:22

-Your mother's lineage is H1.

0:43:240:43:27

-It became more common across Europe

-with the migration of Beaker People.

0:43:270:43:31

-Your sub-haplogroup, H1c1...

0:43:310:43:33

-..is more common in Wales

-compared to the rest of Britain.

0:43:340:43:37

-That's interesting.

0:43:380:43:40

-As a proud Welshman, it's nice to

-hear my ancestors are from Wales...

0:43:400:43:44

-..and that they originated here.

0:43:450:43:47

-I hope it's prompted you

-to research further.

0:43:470:43:50

-I'm interested in history,

-so I'll definitely dig deeper.

0:43:510:43:55

-The story of the Beaker People...

0:43:550:43:58

-..is the final chapter in the

-history of migration to Wales...

0:43:580:44:02

-..between the Ice Age

-and the Roman Era.

0:44:020:44:05

-Which brings us back here, to the

-hill fort, the start of our journey.

0:44:050:44:11

-2,000 years later...

0:44:110:44:13

-..we can't say for certain...

0:44:130:44:15

-..what the lineage of

-those people who lived here was...

0:44:160:44:19

-..but DNA Cymru's tests

-conducted on 1,000 people today...

0:44:200:44:24

-..gives an idea of a similar pattern

-among our nation's ancestors.

0:44:240:44:29

-There are men today who have

-inherited the Y chromosome DNA...

0:44:290:44:35

-..from the hunters who came to

-northern Europe after the Ice Age.

0:44:350:44:40

-But they are in the minority -

-less than 1%.

0:44:410:44:45

-Then there's Roy Noble,

-a descendant of the first farmers.

0:44:460:44:51

-There are more of them, but

-they only make up 3% of the total.

0:44:520:44:58

-Most Welsh people today

-are in Ken Owens' camp.

0:44:590:45:03

-Their Y chromosome DNA

-is derived from the Beaker People.

0:45:030:45:08

-The figure is more than 70%.

0:45:080:45:12

-If we think about the female history

-and the mitochondrial side...

0:45:120:45:17

-..we see a different picture.

0:45:170:45:19

-Very old lineages,

-many more of them.

0:45:200:45:23

-More input from longer ago.

0:45:240:45:26

-Many more Welsh women...

0:45:270:45:29

-..have mitochondrial DNA...

0:45:290:45:31

-..belonging to a haplogroup that

-was here before the Beaker People.

0:45:320:45:37

-In this programme, Caryl Parry Jones

-has learnt a little...

0:45:400:45:44

-..about the early history

-of Welsh women.

0:45:440:45:47

-She's now meeting close friend,

-journalist Carolyn Hitt.

0:45:470:45:53

-Carolyn was initially very critical

-of DNA Cymru's project...

0:45:530:45:57

-..but taking the test

-has changed her mind.

0:45:570:46:00

-This takes you back through your

-mother's mother's mother's mother.

0:46:000:46:05

-That was emotional for me

-after losing my mum.

0:46:050:46:08

-I'm not going to be a mother now,

-yet there's something inside...

0:46:090:46:13

-..however infinitesimal...

0:46:130:46:15

-..that links me through all these

-women thousands of miles away...

0:46:150:46:18

-..going back millennia...

0:46:190:46:21

-We're talking

-thousands of years ago.

0:46:210:46:25

-And to know

-that that long ago is in me.

0:46:250:46:28

-That's what is it with history,

-it's a textbooky thing...

0:46:280:46:32

-..and then it becomes personal.

0:46:320:46:34

-My results show I go back

-to what is now modern Pakistan...

0:46:340:46:38

-..to a female-dominated tribe.

0:46:390:46:41

-It shows that we're all part

-of a big human family.

0:46:410:46:45

-I'd like to think this diversity

-that we've been celebrating...

0:46:450:46:49

-..is still going to be part of this

-gorgeous, diverse nation we are.

0:46:500:46:54

-Diversity.

0:46:550:46:57

-Cheers.

0:46:570:46:58

-The variations in our DNA...

0:47:010:47:03

-..are the signs of the diversity

-in our ancient history.

0:47:030:47:07

-However,

-these are minor differences.

0:47:070:47:10

-Beyond the comings and goings

-of our DNA...

0:47:120:47:15

-..and our personal histories

-is a more important truth.

0:47:150:47:19

-After all,

-we belong to the same family.

0:47:200:47:24

-Everyone who's now in Britain...

0:47:250:47:28

-..their ancestry

-came in a wave of migration.

0:47:290:47:31

-The differences between people

-aren't down to immigration.

0:47:320:47:36

-We're all immigrants.

0:47:360:47:38

-The differences are when

-their ancestry came to the UK.

0:47:380:47:41

-It's a lesson, in a way, because

-we all come from the same place.

0:47:420:47:47

-When you read in the newspapers...

0:47:470:47:50

-..about the fighting

-here and there...

0:47:500:47:53

-..what difference does it make

-who we are?

0:47:530:47:56

-We're all part

-of the same gene pool.

0:47:560:47:59

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