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-Adventurous Welsh people have -explored the world for centuries. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:04 | |
-Many have chronicled their stories -in words, pictures and maps. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
-I'm researching their testimony -and following in their footsteps... | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
-..to the world's -most interesting places. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
-They explored remote areas... | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
-..not knowing -who or what they'd encounter. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
-This week, -an influential woman of her day... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
-..on both sides of the Atlantic... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
-..who has up to now -been more or less forgotten. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
-More than 150 years ago... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
-..thousands of people -left Wales in search of freedom. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
-Political, economic -and religious freedom. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
-But for a woman -like Margaret Roberts... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-..leaving Wales was an opportunity -to have more freedom of thought. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
-Although she died in Hirwaun, -she became famous in America. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
-A formidable woman, -she challenged religious beliefs... | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
-..and provoked male counterparts. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
-Historian Bill Jones -has traced the history... | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
-..of Welsh immigrants in America... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
-..the most intriguing of whom -was Margaret Roberts... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
-..a writer, contentious lecturer -and early women's rights activist. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
-There's nothing to suggest -she was an exceptional woman. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-No, the headstone is unremarkable... | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
-..although there's a remarkable -story to tell about her. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
-The big clue here is, -"Formerly from America". | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
-Yes, this was someone who rose to -intellectual eminence in America... | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
-..although she has been forgotten -by the Welsh in America and at home. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
-Margaret Evans Roberts -was the daughter of a cobbler... | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
-..born in Cynghordy, -Carmarthenshire in 1833. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
-But she became famous -thousands of miles away. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
-Bill Jones -is one of the few who remember her. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
-Little is known about her life. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
-It's my goal to discover more... | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
-..by retracing her journey -to North America. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
-She and her husband -were among the thousands of Welsh... | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
-..who emigrated to America -in the 1850s. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
-Margaret Roberts -became influential... | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
-..in the Welsh communities -that were established there. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
-She seized opportunities that -would never have arisen in Wales. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
-She's one of the most interesting -figures who emigrated to America. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
-Although her experiences -are similar to those... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
-..of other women who emigrated... | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
-..they are also unique in terms -of her beliefs about religion... | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
-..women's rights and so on. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
-Margaret Evans -had a poor upbringing. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
-The family couldn't afford to give -their children a formal education. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
-When she was 20, she married William -Roberts from nearby Rhandirmwyn. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
-They pair -saw their chance to travel. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
-Initially, -they kept a grocer's shop.. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
-..in one of the industrial -communities in Rhigos. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
-When the iron industry went into -decline, they, like many others... | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
-..went in search of a better life. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
-They caught the train to Liverpool -and headed to the docks. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
-Little remains -of Liverpool's docklands nowadays. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
-But 150 years ago, this was -the gateway to the Atlantic. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
-Over the years, approximately nine -million people have left this port. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
-They sailed up the Mersey -towards North America. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-That would've included -tens of thousands of Welsh people. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-Among them was Margaret Roberts. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-William was first to set sail. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
-Margaret joined him weeks later -after sailing on her own. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-She kept a journal -of the 20-day voyage. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
-Reached Londonderry at around 10 -o'clock and picked up passengers. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
-There are -around 300 of us altogether. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
-Most of them -are children of the Emerald Isle. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-It's one of the most glorious days -I've ever seen. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-Today we're sailing along -the St Lawrence River. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
-At 10 o'clock -we set foot in America... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
-..all safe and well. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
-Upon reaching Coal Valley... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
-..my uncle, along with the entire -family, were there to greet me. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
-William was attending a meeting... | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
-..but it didn't take long -to send for him. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
-When we were reunited, -the feeling was overwhelming. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-Margaret and William -arrive in America in 1862... | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
-..at an exciting time in history... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
-..during the Civil War -and civil rights battle. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-The immigrants spread further west. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
-For white Europeans... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
-..a new world was definitely -being created around them. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-This is the first important place -for Margaret Roberts in America. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
-She and William headed to -the mining region of Illinois. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
-However, like many Welsh, they moved -to a more rural setting and farmed. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
-In the 1860s, many Welsh did the -same and came to Old Man's Creek. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
-It was a great adventure. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
-They arrived in wagons -and drove their livestock. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
-They chopped down trees -to make room for a simple dwelling. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-It was their first home in Iowa. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
-Their faith and bravery in searching -for a better life was incredible. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
-During the 1860s... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-..more and more people -had emigrated to America from Wales. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
-This cemetery -could just as easily be in Wales. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
-It's full of familiar names. -There's even an occasional englyn. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
-Names of those -who came here to farm the land... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
-..and found a Welsh community -in Old Man's Creek in Iowa. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
-Evidence from the period... | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
-..suggests that the Welsh -were like any other settlers... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
-..who came from all over Europe. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-They were proud of their language -and spoke it at home and in chapel. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-In Margaret and William's day... | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
-..the members -of this chapel were all Welsh. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
-Times have changed, -but members today... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
-..are proud of their Welsh roots... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
-..and have fought -to keep the chapel going. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
-Mrs Margaret Hootman, who's 91... | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
-..remembers this chapel -when it was full on a Sunday... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
-..and she remembers -cymanfaoedd canu. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
-When the cymanfa was on, -would the chapel be full? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
-Yes, oh, yes, -and they had to put chairs out here. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-Of course, they had pot luck before. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-People came from all over -the country for the cymanfa here. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
-Evans Roberts' name may not strike -a chord with today's members... | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
-..but Old Man's Creek chapel... | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
-..is central to her story -as it inspired great change. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-She was a member -of this small church. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-It provided her with inspiration. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-And then Jesus responds by making... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
-..an invidious comparison between -the behaviour of the woman... | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
-..and the behaviour of the Pharisee. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
-When Margaret and William -came here... | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
-..William Watkins was the minister. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-He publicly announced... | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-..that women should have the right -to preach from the pulpit. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
-That was Margaret's sentiment too. -The minister saw her potential. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
-He encouraged her -to put pen to paper. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-We hunger to be accepted. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
-Watkins died -at a young age in 1878... | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
-..and left behind -a widow and 10 children. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
-The person who writes the eulogy -in Y Cenhadwr Americanaidd... | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
-..the Independents' -American publication... | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-..is Margaret Roberts. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
-That didn't happen very often -in those days. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
-It might -never have happened in Wales. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
-Her first articles -appeared in 1875... | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
-..in two American newspapers - -Y Cenhadwr Americanaidd and Y Drych. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
-The first frequent topic -she discussed was women's rights. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-It was in Old Man's Creek -that she began to flourish... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-..and challenge ideals. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
-Y Drych commented on women's rights -and I see it has upset the peace. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
-Whose peace? The devil's peace -and the preachers' peace. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
-She criticised some men -for being narrow-minded... | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
-..yet also criticised women -for not showing much initiative... | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
-..as she had done -in her new environment. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
-There's cause for concern -since many religious women... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
-..believe that only men should pray. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
-In the chapel, -in the family and in secret. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
-I've so far found the chapel. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
-Now I need to find the land -which she and William farmed. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
-Like everyone else at the chapel... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
-..I was warmly greeted -by Carolyn Smith... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
-..who was willing -to help me in my search. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
-She and her husband found a map... | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
-..which indicated -the plots of land and their owners. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
-OK, so this is Union... | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
-..and Union starts right here. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-And then you are two plots over... | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
-So number 11, -and it'd be on this road here... | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
-..which corresponds -to this one here. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
-There's a Roberts there. There's one -very small plot owned by Roberts. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
-The next step was to follow -the grid shown on the map... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
-..along dusty rural roads, -which is easier said than done. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
-But this was -a new country for the immigrants. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
-As this was the first time -for the land to be occupied... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-..there was -a detailed record of everything. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-The plots of land are almost exactly -how they were back in the 1860s. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
-There's a long list -of the landowners over the years. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-From speaking -to the land's current owner... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-..and from following -one particular map... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-..which shows -the square plots of land... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-..nothing much has changed. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-I'm sure this was Margaret and -William Roberts' land 150 years ago. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:55 | |
-Like other Welsh, it's possible -they were attracted to this area... | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
-..because it resembled rural Wales. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-There were oak trees to chop down -and land to plough... | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-..but there was also a neighbourhood -and the promise of a good harvest. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-For women -in some of these new communities... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
-..life could be lonely. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
-The men were at work while the women -were slaving away at home... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
-..often not seeing anyone all day. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
-Iowa was a great place -to buy land and establish a farm. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
-The land was fertile and the process -of sowing and harvesting... | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-..was a reflection -of Margaret Roberts' life. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-Amid all the hard work, -she made time to read extensively... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
-..to think for herself and to write. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-She had many progressive ideas... | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
-..when it came to Native Americans -and the future of black people. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
-The American nation has evolved -on the back of other nations. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
-Does it retain what it acquired? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
-It has seized -most of the Indians' territory... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
-..by starving them or killing them. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-The black man was freed -by killing the white man. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
-Both parties were left -to poison and curse each other... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
-..when they could, and should... | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-..help the black people -to start fending for themselves. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-She not only discussed -social topics. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-A new world of a different kind -was opening up before her too. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
-She developed -a keen interest in science.... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
-..which was very unusual -for women at the time. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
-Moving to Old Man's Creek in America -had created a brand new world. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
-Even though the community -was familiar, homely and Welsh... | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
-..the opportunities were completely -different for Margaret Roberts. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
-The years she spent at Old Man's -Creek are integral to her story. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
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-The next leg of Margaret -Evans Roberts' journey and mine. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
-She and husband William had settled -in a Welsh community in rural Iowa. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
-The pair were among tens -of thousands of Welsh immigrants. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
-It was a new life. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
-Both started farming -and she seized the opportunity... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
-..to write newspaper articles. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
-10 years of farming -led to William's ill health. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
-Their lives changed once again. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
-In 1878, they were forced to leave -the farm and moved to Iowa City... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
-..where they lived -on Capitol Street. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
-Once again, it was my aim -to retrace their journey. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
-There are -few historical reminders... | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-..in a city such as this. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
-History -is a new thing for Americans. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
-All I've seen -are a few houses and chapels... | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
-..as well as -this important building behind me. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
-It's the Iowan government's -former building... | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-..which stood here long before -Margaret Roberts reached the city. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
-It's situated -close to Iowa University... | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
-..which was significant -in her story. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
-The University of Iowa City -was the first in America... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
-..to open its doors to females, -30 years before Wales followed suit. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
-Margaret Roberts -was one of the first. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
-She studied women's rights, -astronomy and geology. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
-In America, the woman received -more education and respect... | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-..and developed more of an identity -in this country than any other. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
-In terms of education, Evans Roberts -was writing from experience. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
-For the first time, -it gave Margaret a chance... | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
-..to attend university lectures -and mix with likeminded people... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
-..who had an interest -in science and religion. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
-She knew -that educating women was crucial. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
-For them -and for society in general. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
-Thousands wholeheartedly believe -that they are serving God... | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
-..by closing college doors -to the female race. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
-There is nothing strange in that. -It is completely humane. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-Let us Welsh females do our part. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
-Our plight will give us strength -so that we may benefit and thrive. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-According to Bill Jones... | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
-..William Roberts had -a tailoring business in Iowa City. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
-But very little is known about -Margaret Roberts' personal life. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
-I head to the archives. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-Iowa City Directories for 1878 and -1879, the Roberts aren't listed. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
-It's unlikely that any building -they lived or worked in... | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-..would still be standing. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
-You know, it's so hard -to find the ordinary people. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
-Yes. Yes. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
-By coincidence, the editor -of a local history journal... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-..was very willing to help, but -though she trawled through files... | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
-..there was no record -of Margaret or William. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
-Her life outside -the Welsh community was a mystery. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
-During the 1880s, Margaret went from -being a curious farmer's wife... | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
-..to a prolific writer -and a popular lecturer... | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
-..lecturing on intellectual matters -such as Darwinism... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
-..and the latest discoveries -in the nature of creation. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
-Upon reaching Iowa City... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-..Margaret Roberts made her mark. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-Welsh publication -Y Goleuad commented... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-.."This lecturer's different. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
-"She discusses male topics -that are difficult to tackle." | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-Margaret also divided opinion -and provoked conventional men. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
-One man suggested she give up -discussing current affairs... | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
-..and teach other women -to make tasty food... | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
-..instead of trying to wear -the trousers and petticoat. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
-Lecture tours paid well... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
-..and helped in finding a doctor -to cure William's ill health. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
-Much of Margaret Roberts' popularity -stems from her articles... | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
-..in one publication in particular - -Y Drych. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
-This is how it is possible -to follow her work. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-My next step -is to learn more about Y Drych. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
-I begin in New York, in whose port -most of the Welsh immigrants landed. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:29 | |
-They were Y Drych's readership. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
-Most communities -have their own newspapers... | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-..filled with news -and immigration information. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
-Some ethnic communities in New York -sill have their own newspapers. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
-This is precisely how it was -for Welsh-speaking immigrants. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
-It was here in New York... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
-..that Y Drych was first founded -to serve the immigrants. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
-It became a community newspaper -for an entire country. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-So many Welsh people -had migrated to North America... | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
-..that a Welshman -named Thomas J Griffiths... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
-..seized the opportunity -to print a Welsh-medium newspaper. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
-Y Drych's story... | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
-..is interlinked with the rise -and fall of the Welsh communities. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
-In those days, -New York was a hive of activity... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
-..with hundreds of thousands -of incomers arriving every year. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
-This is one of the famous -tenement buildings built in 1863... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
-..a year after Margaret and William -arrived in America. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-It was a house for incomers -with as many as 170 living here... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
-..situated in an area -where Y Drych was founded. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-It has since become -the Tenement Museum. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
-This flat housed an Irish family... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-..similar to the ones Margaret -would've encountered on the ship. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
-The Moores lived here -for one year in 1869. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
-Joseph and Bridget Moore and their -daughters Mary, Jane and Agnes. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
-Mass immigration lasted decades. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-Millions and millions -landed in a different world. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
-Television and film -have familiarized us with America. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:16 | |
-People in Margaret Roberts' era -read about America... | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-..and solely relied on reports -in newspapers like Y Drych. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
-It was predominantly aimed -at new immigrants. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
-It's not difficult to imagine -a Welsh family coming here... | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-..and recreating -their old home in a new place. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-This was the Welsh-speaking -readership who yearned for Y Drych. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
-It begins in 1851, -which is relatively early... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
-..in the Bowery in New York. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
-It's urban and Welsh. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
-In the newspaper -were tips on how to travel... | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
-..how to go through the immigration -process and how to find work. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
-Y Drych is very good in one way -because it educated people... | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
-..on how to be Americans. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
-There was no Welsh consul -waiting for them... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-..but Y Drych served a purpose. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
-It was a handbook on how -to be a Welsh person in America. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
-It also raised -an awareness in Wales... | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
-..of the opportunities -open to Welsh people... | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
-..be they farmers, -coalminers, steelworkers and so on. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
-They could transfer their skills -to a different economy. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
-Y Drych was also a way of keeping in -touch with loved ones back in Wales. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
-An early-day Facebook, if you like. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
-Some requests were heart-breaking. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
-Jonah Daniel, -Mr Mary Daniel's son, Tredegar... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-..who emigrated to -the western states many years ago... | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
-..and who's never written -to his family. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
-His mother would be grateful -to hear about his adventure. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
-In Margaret Roberts' time... | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
-..this was one of the most important -Welsh newspapers in the world. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
-It not only included news -of the Welsh in America... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-..but also the Welsh back in the -homeland, Australia, Patagonia... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
-..and many other places. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
-This was a contemporary CNN -for the Welsh in America... | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
-..at the end of the 19th century. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-Although Y Drych was an American -paper, people in Wales knew of it. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
-Welsh newspapers such as Y Faner... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
-..widely quoted from its columns -about America and the Welsh abroad. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
-It was their way -of receiving foreign news locally. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
-It served as a news agency. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
-They were interlinked. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
-All these messages, -letters and news... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
-..combined to create -an image of the Welsh... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-..that was international - more -international than it is today. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
-The newspaper enjoyed a golden era -in Margaret Roberts' day... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
-..at the height -of mass emigration to America. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-It had a circulation of 20,000... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
-..with its contributors travelling -the length and breadth of the US. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
-This was -a platform for Margaret's ideas... | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-..and the basis of her fame. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-But her travelling wasn't over - -she and William moved again... | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
-..to a new -and prosperous area for the Welsh. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
-Scranton, Pennsylvania. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
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-After a brief period, Margaret -and William Roberts left Iowa City. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
-She took with her her knowledge -of geology, astronomy... | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
-..and women's rights and headed -to Scranton in Pennsylvania... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
-..a stronghold of Welsh culture. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
-Travelling to Pennsylvania -is straightforward nowadays... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
-..but when Margaret and William -Roberts came in the 1880s... | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
-..it would've been -an arduous journey. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
-Their world -was about to change once again. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-They were heading to an area -populated by Welsh speakers. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-She was able to put into practice -the skills she had honed in Iowa. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
-She began the work -that made her famous. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
-Writing for Y Drych newspaper. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
-By the end of the 19th century... | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
-..the number of Welsh in America -was at its peak. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
-People who were born in Wales -lived in every state. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
-One in seven -lived in northeast Pennsylvania... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
-..in Scranton -and neighbouring industrial areas. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-When Margaret and William -arrived in 1881... | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
-..Scranton was one of America's -industrial powerhouses... | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
-..where skilled workers -were rewarded. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
-The Welsh community prospered -and the city prospered as a result. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
-If Iowa felt familiar, Margaret -Roberts would've been at home here. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
-Scranton and Pennsylvania -were at the heart... | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
-..of the industrial revolution -in North America. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
-The landscape is similar to Wales. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
-The industries were exactly the same -- iron, coal, anthracite and steel. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
-The city of Scranton -was created by two brothers. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
-Seldon and George Scranton. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-They built -the iron furnaces 170 years ago. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
-They started producing iron -for a rail network... | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
-..at a time -when rail travel was at its peak. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
-In addition to the coal, -iron and steel... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
-..Scranton became an influential -town for the railways too. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
-Scranton's two main industries, -iron and coal... | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
-..attracted immigrants from Wales. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
-Their expertise meant -that they managed other workers... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
-..and received better wages. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
-As has always been the case -with immigration... | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
-..some would settle and then -family and friends followed. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
-It provided -economic and social opportunities. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
-That's why Scranton became -the capital of the Welsh in America. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
-Records show that half of Scranton's -population were born overseas. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
-The Welsh were the second -largest group of immigrants. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
-It's easy for us to forget the -importance of newspapers years ago. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
-It was the only medium -that reached a wide audience... | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
-..to educate and share knowledge. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
-For the Welsh, Y Drych -was the principal newspaper. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
-It begins to create an awareness -among the Welsh... | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
-..that it's possible to be Welsh -without being British... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
-..and that it's possible to be Welsh -within a totally different republic. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:13 | |
-That becomes a strong element -in Y Drych as the years go by. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
-It's possible to be Welsh outside -of Wales and the British Empire. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
-The newspaper's purpose... | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
-..was to also define an identity -for the Welsh in America. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
-How to be Welsh and American -at the same time. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
-By comparison... | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
-..it emphasised how good life was -for Welsh people in America. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
-The Hyde Park area of Scranton -was where the Welsh lived. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
-It was called -the Welsh Athens of America. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
-50 poets lived here -and it was a hive of literary... | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
-..religious and cultural activity. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
-It's little wonder that William -and Margaret moved to Hyde Park. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
-Being a Welsh person in the -New World meant a voice for women. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
-Adventurous people emigrated -and embraced change. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
-Although many traditional customs -emigrated with the Welsh... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
-..it was a chance for -Margaret Roberts to voice opinion... | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
-..more than ever before. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-Some regarded their wives -as inferior beings... | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
-..and treated them accordingly. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
-Within the family, -they weren't master and mistress... | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
-..but rather master and maid. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
-In America, like in Wales today... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-..newspapers must battle -against new modes of communication. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
-But in Margaret Roberts' era, -they were the internet of the day. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
-An ever-growing medium -that discussed new ideas. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
-Public lectures soon followed. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
-Contentious issues -attracted audiences. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
-Margaret Roberts -wrote and lectured... | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
-..and was a progressive thinker. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
-She could challenge the old notion -of a woman's role in society... | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
-..and even in politics. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
-No woman in this country... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-..is responsible -for the country's legal failings... | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
-..because she is forbidden -to voice her opinion about any laws. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
-Roberts was the second woman ever... | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
-..to stand for public election -in Scranton in favour of temperance. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
-She likened alcohol abuse to an -open well in which children drowned. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
-Imagine being in a town where -the well is completely exposed... | 0:28:34 | 0:28:40 | |
-..without a dam surrounding it -and one child in every five... | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
-..falls into it and drowns. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
-How much persuading -would the townspeople need... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
-..to do something with the well? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
-She was an advocate -of the temperance movement. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
-Perhaps -that's no surprise to us in Wales... | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
-..because the temperance movement... | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
-..was a way for women -to rise to public prominence. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
-She joins the WCTU, the Women's -Christian Temperance Union... | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
-..a year after its founding... | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
-..and 30 years later she writes -the history of the WCTU in Welsh. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
-By 1883, Margaret -was a very popular writer... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-..and lecturer in America but she -and William returned to Wales... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:33 | |
-..so that she could lecture -and William's health could improve. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
-With her new-found confidence, -she spoke out... | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
-..about the effects of alcohol -on Wales' industrial communities. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
-She wrote a contentious article... | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
-..entitled Uncivilised Christian -Wales, in which she claimed... | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
-Thousands -of Welsh mothers are drunks. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
-She believes it's no surprise -since Wales' Christians ignore them. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
-Wales' churches care very little -about the lower classes. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
-It's a stark article in which she -challenges the respectable Welsh. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
-The Welsh -feel for the world's pagans... | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
-..and contribute -by sending the gospel to them... | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
-..when thousands -of their countrymen are far worse. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
-She opened a can of worms. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
-Mr Thomas claimed in Y Drych that -it was the most disgusting thing... | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
-..ever to appear -in a Welsh newspaper. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
-Margaret is equally as harsh -with her reply. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
-I do not think you are worth -raising a penny mallet against. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
-And then silence. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-After this argument, -she withdrew for a few years. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
-She wrote to Y Drych in 1884... | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
-..saying that she did not -want to argue this case any more. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
-She wrote one article -the following year... | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
-..and then nothing for three years. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
-It's a mystery -that's yet to be solved. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
-Was she sulking or was -William's health deteriorating? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
-I was hoping to find some of -the answers at Scranton's archives. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
-Hello, sir. Welcome. Come on in. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
-Any luck? | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
-These are the city directories. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
-America's houses and shops -are listed in directories. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
-I hope to at least find -where she lived. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
-That must be him -because he used to be a tailor. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
-Having seen a reference -to William Roberts' shop... | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
-..I can check the map -to see where they used to live... | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
-..and get a feel -for their life there. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
-This is an atlas map of Scranton -that was published in 1888. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:49 | |
-Here's Sumner. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
-Roberts. He's right there. -That would've been his house. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
-And he owns that. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
-And he owns that. - -Yes, he would've been the landowner. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
-Businesses thrived in Scranton. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
-This was Electric City. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
-The first place in America -to have an electric tram system... | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
-..which was developed -during Margaret's time. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
-It was worth coming. -We've found some new facts. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
-Nothing major but a little more -about William and Margaret's life. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
-We were expecting to see they'd -come here to run a shoe shop... | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
-..but we found that initially... | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
-..William Roberts carried on working -as a tailor, as he was in Iowa. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
-So the suggestion is -that he perhaps became more ill... | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
-..and that they -opened the store later. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
-They kept the shoe shop -for five or six years. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
-It matches the time -when Margaret says... | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
-..that she's put an end to her -writing because she's too busy. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
-So this has explained -some of her history... | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
-..and explained -why there was a gap... | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
-..and her precise movements -around Scranton. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-These are the streets that were -familiar to William and Margaret. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
-They would've -walked around this corner. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
-I'm able to see -where their shop was situated. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
-The likeness to the industrial -valleys of South Wales continues. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
-Scranton -has also suffered economically. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
-The light of the pioneering -Electric City has long faded. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
-The prosperity of Margaret Evans -Roberts' day is a distant memory. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
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-At one time, Welsh was -the predominant language spoken... | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
-..on the streets and in the chapels -of Hyde Park, Scranton. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
-The chapel was -the backbone of the Welsh community. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
-The Welsh -built seven chapels in Scranton. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
-Three were close together -in Hyde Park... | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
-..each seating 800, with several -Welsh services held on a Sunday. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
-But religion -and the Welsh language weakened. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
-The three chapels merged -and became the Trinity. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
-The language turned to English. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
-Since no-one understands Welsh... | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
-..the records -contain secrets and scandals. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
-This is starting to turn into -a bit of a detective story. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
-We have some additional information -about William Roberts and Margaret. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:35 | |
-This is a record of the very first -Congregational chapel. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
-Their names appear in here -and it's typical of record books... | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
-..of any chapel during this time. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
-There's talk of people being banned -because they're drunk... | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
-..or that their lives are -too unworthy to be church members. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
-This is -an absolutely typical record... | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
-..of the first -Congregational chapel. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
-"Our warmest gratitude -to Mrs Margaret Roberts... | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-"..for her service in preparing free -non-alcoholic wine for communion." | 0:35:06 | 0:35:12 | |
-Margaret Roberts provides -alcohol-free wine to the chapel. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
-It makes you wonder -what they drank before that. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
-Two current members -of the Welsh chapel... | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
-..are Catherine Hammerman -and Kitty Purosky. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
-Catherine was born in Scranton. Her -father was a miner from South Wales. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
-Her family -came in search of a better life. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
-He worked down the mines, did he? | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
-He worked in the mines -until there was a cave-in. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
-He was the only one of four... | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
-..that survived. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
-The father was also a famous singer. -His name was John T Jones. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
-His daughter loved hearing him sing -on a record from the 1920s. | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
-# Oh, if it were summer -all year around # | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
-Welsh mementos, -along with some of her customs... | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
-..are indicative of -her Welsh upbringing in Hyde Park. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
-Do you still make Welsh cakes? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
-Oh, indeed, yes. -We make them at the church. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
-500 dozen at a time, right? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
-And she has the biggest order. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
-Kitty Purosky -is a GI wife from Port Talbot... | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
-..and a school friend -of Richard Burton. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
-She emigrated here after WWII. -She longs for more Welsh culture. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
-Everything has become Americanised -with praise and worship songs. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
-We very seldom hear -the Welsh hymns now. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
-We have to ask them, "Please -let's have some Welsh hymns." | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
-Welsh ladies remembering -the good old days of Hyde Park. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
-A close-knit, industrial area. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
-Some memories are akin to people's -memories of the South Wales valleys. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
-In the coal museum -are plenty of Welsh names and faces. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
-Faces of Welsh miners -who came here to use their skills. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
-They usually had influential jobs. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
-They also earned the reputation -for being strong unionists. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
-They were -an important part of the strike... | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
-..that changed the history -of unionism in America. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
-The 1902 Strike -was long and bitter... | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
-..but the miners won. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
-They won the right to a nine-hour -working day and 10% more pay. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
-Margaret Roberts -sympathised with their hardships. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
-The poor miner - -his lungs will be full of dust... | 0:37:47 | 0:37:53 | |
-..and his blood poisoned -by the smoke and lack of sunlight. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
-Though he's in his prime, -an early grave awaits him. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
-Her roots and her ideas -about social equality... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
-..were behind her articles -in support of the strike. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
-No other class of people -in the country... | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-..has been oppressed -as much as coalminers. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
-How is it possible that half a dozen -of the country's officials... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
-..condone a practice that accounts -for the death of thousands? | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
-That half a dozen refers to -the handful of wealthy mine owners. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
-She's somewhat disappointed -by the free New World. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
-Are innocent ordinary folk -safe in such a country? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
-Is this what -a republican government stands for? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
-Mining resumed but the Welsh -way of life was in decline. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
-Eastern European workers were -willing to work for lower wages. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
-The golden age of Welsh speakers -in Scranton was coming to an end. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
-But one place serves as a reminder -of a time when Welsh was thriving. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
-A small, sad headstone like this -is steeped in history. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
-Firstly, it's in the middle of -a huge graveyard of Welsh names... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
-..which goes to show how many had -moved from South Wales to Scranton. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
-But there's more to it than that. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
-According to the date -6 September 1869... | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
-..this was one of the men -killed in the Avondale disaster. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
-The greatest disaster in the history -of Pennsylvania's coalfields. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
-108 men and boys died, -69 of whom were Welsh. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
-This headstone -is a small part of a big cemetery... | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
-..in the United States and -a small part of Wales' history too. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
-This is the house on Sumner Avenue -where they both lived. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
-In 1903, Margaret suffered a -huge blow when William passed away. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
-He died, leaving her very lonely. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
-Despite his ill health... | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
-..they had been a close, supportive -married couple for 50 years. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
-She had lost her biggest supporter. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
-The loss brought about -a period of uncertainty. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
-Although they were childless, -she had many relatives in the US. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:36 | |
-She began to move -from one home to another. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
-Mrs Roberts, under consideration -of a widow's loneliness... | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
-..left Scranton for a season -and returned to Iowa City... | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
-..to settle with Isaac Evans, -her sister's son. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
-She also lived for a while with -her brother and his family in Iowa. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
-At the time of the 1904-05 Revival, -she returned to Wales for a while. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
-She was -without an anchor in her life. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
-When she returned -to Scranton in 1906... | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
-..and the church where -she and William had been active... | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
-..it was clear -that things had changed. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
-Records suggest -there'd been a disagreement. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
-The chapel was divided, so Margaret -decided to attend another chapel... | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
-..that was more evangelical -in nature and English in language. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
-The desire -to retain the new generation... | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
-..was stronger than the desire -to retain the Welsh language. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
-Margaret's move was a sign of things -to come for the Welsh in Scranton. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
-We've known for some time... | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
-..that the Welsh -integrated into American society... | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
-..quicker than other minority groups -who emigrated from Europe. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
-In places like Scranton... | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-..the language was changing, -and to some extent... | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
-..the Welsh chapels -were turning to English. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
-That's not to say -they didn't still feel Welsh. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
-An American Welshness was created -but they spoke English. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
-But there remains an awareness -of a connection with Wales. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
-It was still powerful -for some of them, at least... | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
-..throughout the 20th century -until present day. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
-This group of Welsh Society members -are aware of their heritage. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
-The first time I went to Wales, -I felt like I was home. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
-Most people of Welsh descent -in Scranton.... | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
-..are unaware of their heritage. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
-Doreen is a former teacher and -has taught many Welsh descendants. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
-Their history has been forgotten. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
-I could say to other kids, -"What a nice Welsh name." | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
-They had no idea they were Welsh. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
-It could be Evans, Thomas, Pugh. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
-It could be Evans, Thomas, Pugh. - -That's the biggest challenge. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
-A lot of the younger generation -don't even know what Wales is. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
-Margaret Evans Roberts witnessed the -golden age of the Welsh in Scranton. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
-It was a community that Beth, Bert -and Doreen had heard so much about. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
-But since the community has gone, -the memory of Margaret has gone too. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
-She was in Scranton when there were -new opportunities for the Welsh... | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
-..and they readily seized -every one of them. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
-America gave her in her forties... | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
-..and we must remember -she was in her forties... | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
-..the opportunity to go from being -a farmer's wife to a public figure. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:45 | |
-In the end, Margaret Roberts went -back to Wales after William's death. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
-By the time of the 1911 Census... | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
-..she was listed as a border -in a house back in Hirwaun... | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
-..where her journey began. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
-We don't know if she was related -to the homeowner or just a lodger. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
-She only wrote one article -after her return to Wales. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
-It was a very sad letter... | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
-..that she wrote in February 1911. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
-She writes that she is losing her -sight and medics have advised her... | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
-..not to read or write -because it damages the eyes. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
-She'd lost -her means of communication... | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
-..that had brought her -so much pleasure. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
-The final sentence -is heart-breaking. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
-I have died -but have not been buried. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
-This is one of the things... | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
-..that saddens me about her. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
-She's completely forgotten today... | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
-..but at the time, -she was very well known. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
-She was also very influential. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
-She lived for another 10 years -after going blind. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
-She survived the Great War -and the depression that followed. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
-She died in 1921, aged 88. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
-She wrote thousands of words -engaged in many arguments... | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
-..and crossed the Atlantic -many times. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
-Without Bill Jones' research, -she would've been forgotten. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
-If Margaret's story -ended back in Hirwaun... | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
-..there was one major challenge -left for me in Scranton. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
-William died in 1903 and was buried -in a cemetery for the Welsh... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:38 | |
-..in the new part of the city. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
-I've tried to find it but failed. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
-If Bill had failed, I was determined -to find William Roberts' grave. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:51 | |
-At Washburn Street Cemetery -in Scranton... | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
-..I was aided by Jim Arscott, -president of the Welsh Society. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
-The search is a symbol of the trials -and tribulations of the Welsh. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:06 | |
-The connection has been lost -in America... | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
-..and the memory -has been lost back in Wales. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
-It's the story of a remarkable woman -and her husband who was her anchor. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
-It's also a story -about community and culture. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
-A couple of hours -before leaving Scranton... | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
-..I've found -William T Roberts' grave... | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
-..with a little help -from local authorities. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
-There's no doubt that this is the -grave because the dates correspond. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
-Margaret died back in Wales... | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
-..which is one of the reasons -she's been forgotten out here. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
-Until very recently, -this headstone had fallen. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
-It has now been replaced. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
-Hopefully the memory of Margaret -Evans Roberts has resurfaced too. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
-She was a very influential woman -in her day... | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
-..and deserves to be remembered. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
-Throughout her life, she had -followed a path of enlightenment. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
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