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-Hello and welcome to Ffermio.

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-The bank holiday is upon us

-and it's busy in the countryside...

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-..as people prepare to welcome

-thousands of visitors to the area.

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-Near Dolgellau, there is much

-discussion, uncertainty even...

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-..to do with the name

-of one of our main attractions.

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-More on that later.

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-Also on the programme, Meinir visits

-Illtud Dunsford and his Welsh pigs.

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-A few days before the voting...

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-..we have a summary of the parties'

-manifestos in the Assembly election.

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-First, with the price of milk

-still so low...

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-..Daloni went to Flintshire

-to look for a glimmer of hope...

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-..from an organic dairy farmer.

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-Argoed Farm in the village

-of New Brighton, Mold...

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-..is home to Stuart Taylor

-and his family.

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-He was raised here.

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-For the last 16 years, they've

-farmed the 150 acres organically.

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-I came home to farm with my father

-around 30 years ago.

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-We became organic...

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-..after the quotas were introduced

-in '84.

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-By 2000, we were organic.

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-So it was a gradual process.

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

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-What did you do?

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-We stopped using nitrogen.

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-What scared us

-was not using fertilizer.

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-But it's been fine.

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-How does the system work here?

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-It works very well.

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-As we're a dairy farm...

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-..we have plenty of slurry

-for the grass.

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-We keep on top of the weeds.

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-It's a good system for us.

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-They milk 70 British Friesian cows.

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-At the moment,

-the price of organic milk is stable.

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-Compared to conventional milk...

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-..the organic market is strong.

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-Yes, it is.

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-But it has been

-as low as the conventional.

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-How much do you receive per litre?

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-At the moment, 32p a litre.

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-Has it come down?

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-A little, because of spring,

-as there's more milk about.

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-In winter, it was 36p.

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-Everyone should receive over 30p.

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-That's what enables the farmer

-to earn a living...

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-..and look after the land.

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-I wouldn't be able to survive

-if I farmed conventionally.

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-We're too small.

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-But since we're organic,

-it's extra income for us.

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-As well as farming organically...

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-..Stuart has also created

-wildlife habitats...

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-..without any financial support.

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-He's also installed renewables

-on the farm...

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-..to reduce electricity costs.

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-The grass is thick, Stuart!

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-It's worth seeing.

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-It's unexpected at this time of year

-with all the wet weather.

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-It's been wet but mild too.

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-We've had very little frost

-this winter.

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-There are lots of dandelions.

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-Is that good?

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-It's full of minerals for the cattle

-and provides food for the bees.

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-What will you do with this?

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-Silage and then pasture.

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-One crop a year?

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-No, two or three.

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-From this one field?

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-From this one field?

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-Yes.

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-All this has had

-is your own fertilizer.

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-Yes, slurry.

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-It's almost making my mouth water!

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-No wonder the cattle

-are looking so good.

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-Thank you.

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-You use renewable energy here.

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-Yes, we have PVs

-to generate electricity...

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-..and solar panels

-to generate hot water.

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-That helps with the milking.

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-That helps with the milking.

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-It does.

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-It keeps the bills down.

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-Yes. They're around 30% less

-after installing the PVs.

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-You obviously do

-a lot of conservation work here.

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-Yes. I enjoy

-planting hedgerows and trees.

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-When did you plant this one?

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-Two years ago.

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-There are 250 metres here.

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-I spent two weeks

-planting a little every afternoon...

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-..just before Christmas.

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-Hawthorns. They like the position.

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-They do. They've done very well.

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-Are you part of a scheme where

-you have to do this sort of work?

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-No, I do it because I enjoy it.

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-It's obvious that Stuart is

-passionate about the way he farms.

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-You get the feeling...

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-..that although he has to take care

-of the financial side of things...

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-..he farms from the heart.

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-I prefer being organic.

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-I'd never go back.

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-For me, it's more interesting...

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-..and it makes it easier...

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-..to look after wildlife

-and the landscape.

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-Is it Cader or Cadair Idris?

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-This has been discussed

-in the press this week.

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-Which one is correct?

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-I hope to find out the answer...

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-..as well as how to balance

-conservation and tourism...

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-..on one of Meirionnydd's

-most popular mountains.

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-Paul Williams has been a senior

-site manager for 16 years...

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-..first with

-the Countryside Council for Wales...

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-..then Natural Resources Wales.

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-As part of his work, he's been

-coordinating restoration plans...

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-..to improve the environment

-and attract more visitors.

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-Place names are complicated,

-no matter where you are.

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-I think Cader and Cadair

-are both correct.

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-As a national body, we can only take

-the best advice available.

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-According to many sources...

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-..Cadair

-would be the standard orthography.

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-That doesn't stop anyone

-from pronouncing it as Cader...

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-..or writing it as Cader.

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-As I'm from northern Meirionnydd,

-I say Cadar.

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-We've chosen the standard form...

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-..Cadair Idris.

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-That's how it has been with us

-for decades.

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-We haven't changed the spelling.

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-It's one

-of the most popular mountains...

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-..in the south of the Park

-certainly.

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-Yes, definitely.

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-It's what's known as a honeypot.

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-People like coming here

-to go for the summit.

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-A large part of the mountain...

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-..has been a nature reserve

-since the '50s.

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-Fifty thousand people

-walk this path every year.

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-I know not all of them are here

-to see the nature reserve.

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-They're here because Cadair Idris

-is an iconic mountain.

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-A lot of them go for the summit.

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-Some go to Llyn Cau,

-which is beautiful.

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-My work in this centre, to a degree,

-is to entice them.

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-They're a captive audience.

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-If some of them can go

-from the centre to the mountain...

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-..having learned a little

-about why the mountain is special...

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-..it's great.

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-Is the land used

-for any agricultural purpose?

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-Yes.

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-The valley or most of this side

-of the mountain...

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-..is grazed by a neighbour.

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-His family grazed it before him.

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-The cooperation

-between us and the grazer is vital.

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-As a foundation

-to the nature reserve...

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-..an interpretation centre

-has been built.

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-One of the main attractions

-is a CCTV camera...

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-..to watch the bats in the roof.

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-It isn't a big population

-but it's increasing and developing.

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-The lesser horseshoe bat

-is rare in Britain...

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-..but north-west Wales

-is a stronghold.

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-They're starting to come back now.

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-They hibernate in other places

-like cowsheds and local quarries.

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-They return in the spring.

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-The females

-come here to rear their young.

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-For many of us, they're creatures

-that fly above us at night.

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-We don't know much about them.

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-We don't know much about them.

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-That's what's good about here.

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-We can show that we can live

-with them in the building.

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-No-one lives here

-but we use it from day to day.

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-There's a cafe here too.

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-There's no need

-to be scared of them.

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-We can live alongside them.

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-We can live alongside them.

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-That's a great message.

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-People forget that maintaining paths

-requires constant work.

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-It does.

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-There are miles of paths

-on the mountain.

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-Unfortunately, it's expensive,

-so we can't do it all overnight.

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-It's slow work.

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-Many of them are farmers' sons,

-I take it.

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-Yes.

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-Some of them

-have worked on the paths...

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-..for the National Park...

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-..and the Upland Paths

-Partnership...

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-..which is now defunct.

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-It creates reliable jobs

-in rural areas...

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-..just that it requires funding.

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-..just that it requires funding.

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-Yes.

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-The National Park Authority...

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-..has been successful last year

-and this year in attracting funding.

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-We contribute towards it too.

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-However,

-I have to strike a balance...

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-..between spending

-on access or leisure projects...

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-..and spending

-on conservation projects.

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-More of my money goes on

-maintaining boundaries and so on.

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-That also creates jobs for

-farmers' sons and local contractors.

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-Let's go a little higher

-while our legs are still OK.

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-We'll go slowly!

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-We'll go slowly!

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-Yes, slowly does it!

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-I'm 57, remember!

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-How do you think a pig like this...

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-..is turned into tasty sausages

-like this?

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-That's what I want to find out today

-on Felin y Glyn Farm near Pontyates.

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-Illtud Dunsford hails from Cardiff

-but spent much of his childhood...

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-..here on the family farm

-looking after the animals.

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-After working

-in the film industry...

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-..he decided

-to become a food producer.

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-My grandfather and uncle

-reared pigs in the 1980s.

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-We carried on the tradition,

-rearing pigs for ourselves.

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-Initially,

-I didn't think of it as a business.

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-It was just something we did.

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-Since we had so much meat...

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-..at one time of the year

-after slaughtering and curing...

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-..I did some research.

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-I looked beyond making faggots,

-black pudding, sausages and bacon...

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-..and explored what was being

-produced in Europe and America.

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-Gradually, we expanded the produce

-we made for ourselves.

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-When the business began...

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-..we looked at it from

-the viewpoint of meat science...

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-..and greatly expanded our range.

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-You've also remained faithful

-to the Welsh pig.

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-The Welsh pig

-was the obvious breed for us.

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-We have kept other breeds...

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-..but the Welsh pig has evolved

-to thrive in the Welsh landscape.

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-It makes sense

-to keep our native pig.

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-It's ideally suited to our produce.

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-How do you manage

-to stay ahead in the game?

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-As a business, we diversified.

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-We added to the pig itself.

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-We wanted control

-over the whole operation...

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-..and where the product was sold.

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-That's still important to us.

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-We try to keep control

-over our food chain.

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-The Charcutier company

-makes 40 different products.

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-The many awards

-they have received...

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-..is testimony

-to the high standard of the food.

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-When we started the business...

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-..we received advice from an

-experienced producer in this field.

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-According to his model...

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-..if you consider that the price

-for a good-sized pig...

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-..is 150-200

-to a butcher or at market...

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-..that pig should produce sausages

-with a value of 400-500.

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-If you add

-various pork products to that...

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-..the pig could produce 700-900.

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-Once you start carrying out

-specialized processing...

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-..it's possible to

-making 1,500 or more from that pig.

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-Obviously there are costs,

-so it's not pure profit.

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-If you think of products

-that are cured...

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-..that takes at least two weeks

-and sometimes six months or more.

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-There's no cash flow...

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-..and there's a lot of development

-before you reach that point.

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-It's not simple, but there

-are certainly possibilities.

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-The company has developed rapidly

-since it was established in 2010.

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-After a spell producing his meats

-at the Horeb food centre...

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-..Illtud and his workers now work

-in a new unit on the family farm.

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-We've been here just over a year.

-We're still finding our feet.

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-It's always difficult

-when you move to somewhere new.

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-Working in a converted building...

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-..is very different to working in

-a new building with plenty of space.

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-There's always something

-that isn't in the right place.

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-We also have one eye on the future.

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-We look to see

-where we could face problems...

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-..and where we should

-expand and invest.

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-How much has the business profited

-from creating this unit?

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-I think business has doubled

-in the last year to 18 months.

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-The business could be

-ten times the size it is now...

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-..just operating from these units.

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-There are many possibilities...

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-..but because we are producing

-high-quality produce...

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-..there is a limit

-to the number of customers...

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-..willing to pay a premium

-for the products.

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-We know our place in the market.

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-What would your advice be

-to someone who's keen...

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-..on starting to produce

-their own specialized produce?

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-It's not easy. If it was easy,

-everyone would be doing it.

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-There are great possibilities

-out there.

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-There is a real interest in food.

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-We call people who believe

-in real food 'the Tribe'.

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-Once they eat your food...

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-..and hear its story,

-understand its purpose...

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-..they will spread

-the word about your produce.

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-That's very important.

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-The hours are long...

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-..but it's vital to remember

-we're working toward something.

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-When we reach that point,

-we'll know that we've succeeded.

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-We're still a young business.

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-We're still growing.

-We need more staff.

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-We have a long way to go

-until we're completely successful.

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-With a few days to go

-before the Assembly election...

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-..here's a summary

-of what the parties are pledging...

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-..in terms of agriculture

-and the countryside.

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-Let's start with the Green Party.

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-Their emphasis is on the animal -

-both tame and wild.

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-They want to reintroduce

-vaccinations for badgers...

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-..and have CCTV in all abattoirs.

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-They also want stricter regulations

-on transporting livestock...

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-..and a ban on live exports.

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-What about the Liberal Democrats?

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-They have three main promises.

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-An annual fund of 20 million

-for hill farmers...

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-..to address the issues

-of farming challenging land.

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-There would be grants

-to aid farmers to diversify...

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-..reduce the amount of carbon

-released into the environment...

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-..and to be more competitive.

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-They would also promote share

-farming and succession planning.

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-If you decide

-to support the Conservatives...

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-..what is in their manifesto?

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-They would appoint

-a government minister...

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-..with specific responsibility

-for Mid and West Wales...

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-..to promote rural communities.

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-They would also consider rural areas

-in all policy areas...

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-..giving full support to

-the dairy and red meat industries.

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-They would work with the Westminster

-government to review the CAP.

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-They would also cut taxes

-and unnecessary red tape...

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-..and they would help rural

-communities to manage local assets.

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-They would also maintain and improve

-high welfare standards...

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-..for animals in Wales.

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-What does Plaid Cymru have to offer?

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-They suggest a package of measures

-to eradicate TB...

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-..and to keep TB-free zones

-disease free.

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-They would work with farmers...

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-.to see if recording and reporting

-sheep movements through EID...

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-..is appropriate.

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-They also refer

-to Working Smarter...

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-..including reducing red tape

-and unnecessary paperwork.

0:20:500:20:54

-They refer to the future

-of agriculture...

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-..through mention of education,

-access, renting...

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-..share farming and succession.

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-They also recognize the need

-to work with the YFC.

0:21:030:21:06

-They commit to setting up

-a veterinary school in Wales.

0:21:060:21:09

-There is a section about farming

-and the food chain...

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-..including the need

-to reduce food waste.

0:21:130:21:16

-They also mention international

-climate change targets.

0:21:160:21:19

-The latest addition

-to the Assembly election is UKIP.

0:21:220:21:25

-What do they have to offer?

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-They believe money is wasted on

-the administration of subsidies...

0:21:270:21:31

-..and that the UK goes overboard

-with EU regulations.

0:21:320:21:35

-Central to their manifesto...

0:21:350:21:37

-..is the appointment

-of local wildlife managers...

0:21:370:21:40

-..who would have the right

-to operate according to local needs.

0:21:410:21:44

-They would be responsible

-for reducing TB, for example.

0:21:440:21:48

-UKIP also note the need to

-reconsider the policy on GM crops.

0:21:480:21:52

-They would also offer

-mobile abattoirs...

0:21:520:21:55

-..to improve animal welfare

-and reduce food miles.

0:21:550:21:58

-Their manifesto offers

-a package of support for farmers...

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-..as well as control over people's

-rights to access the countryside.

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-They emphasize the need

-to make farming profitable...

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-..and reduce red tape.

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-Finally, what are the main points

-in the Labour Party's manifesto?

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-They have been in power

-over the last five years.

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-Their objectives are closely linked

-to their Rural Development Plan...

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-..which is already in action.

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-They emphasize the need

-to create employment...

0:22:260:22:29

-..and fair living standards.

0:22:290:22:31

-They also promise good public

-services for local communities.

0:22:310:22:34

-The long-term aim is to create

-a profitable food sector...

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-..which respects animal welfare

-and is managed professionally.

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-There is a specific reference

-to farm workers' pay...

0:22:420:22:45

-..and a reference

-to managing natural resources...

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-..to respond

-to climate change targets.

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-That's all for this week.

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-In this lovely setting of Tal-y-llyn

-Lake at the foot of Cadair Idris...

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-..I wish you a happy holiday...

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-..whether you're relaxing,

-looking after the tourists...

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-..or like most farmers,

-carrying on as usual.

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-Thank you for your company. Goodbye.

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