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Gyda'r treialon cwn defaid rhyngwladol ar y gorwel, bydd Daloni yn ymweld a chapten Cymru. With the upcoming international sheep dog trials, Daloni meets current Welsh captain M...


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-Welcome to Ffermio

-and to Llanfachreth near Dolgellau.

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-I've come here to meet the shepherd

-who will captain Wales...

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-..in the International

-Sheep Dog Trials next weekend.

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-Also on the programme...

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-..Alun will find out why there's

-more ewes' milk cheese being made.

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-And I'll be chatting with a farmer's

-wife who's also a successful author.

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-Next weekend, people from Wales,

-England, Scotland and Ireland...

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-..will flock to Sandilands Farm

-near Tywyn in Meirionnydd...

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-..for the International

-Sheep Dog Trials.

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-Fifteen dogs and their masters from

-each country will be competing...

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-..and Medwyn Evans

-is the Wales team captain.

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-Medwyn is a shepherd

-on the Nannau estate...

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-..in Llanfachreth near Dolgellau.

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-He is originally from Porthmadog but

-has been here for almost 40 years.

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-The estate consists of 2,650 acres.

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-Medwyn is responsible for the 2,000

-sheep that graze these fields.

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-He has always had an interest

-in sheepdogs...

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-..and this year he will lead

-the Wales sheepdog trials team.

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-Many congratulations, Medwyn.

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-You are the Wales team captain.

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-You are the Wales team captain.

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-Thank you.

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-How were you made captain?

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-I was fortunate enough...

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-..to win first place

-at the national championships.

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-Whoever wins the national

-is made captain for that year.

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-Next weekend, teams from Wales,

-Scotland, Ireland and England...

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-..will compete against each other.

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-There are 15 in each team, but

-does that mean 15 dogs or 15 people?

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-There are 15 dogs.

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-Which dogs are yours?

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-Mac and Meg.

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-Mac will be competing against Meg.

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-Mac will be competing against Meg.

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-Yes.

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-Who is older, Meg or Mac?

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-Who is older, Meg or Mac?

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-Meg.

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-Meg is five and a half,

-Mac is three and a half.

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-Tell us about Meg.

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-She is home-bred.

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-Her parents were my own dogs.

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-I bought Mac when he was young,

-about two years ago.

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-Where did he come from?

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-From a friend of mine,

-Arfon Pugh in Harlech.

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-I happened to be judging a nursery

-when I saw him run by Arfon.

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-I liked the look of him and he won.

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-Two or three months later,

-I heard he was selling him.

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-I went over and bought him.

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-He's a lovely farmyard dog.

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-We shall see how it goes.

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-I am quite confident.

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-Wales have a good team.

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-Are you able to spot the potential

-in a young dog?

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-By the time

-they're six or seven months old...

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-..you know that they have something

-worth having.

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-Quite often, if I get them young...

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-..I like for half my dogs

-to be taught in Welsh.

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-When you're gathering the sheep

-on the mountain...

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-..if you have the same

-two commands...

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-..it's difficult to send one off

-without the other following.

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-If one command is in English and

-the other in Welsh, it's far easier.

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-It just happens

-that he's English and she's Welsh.

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-This is the third time that Medwyn

-has captained the Wales team.

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-He led them in 1998 and in 2014.

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-Medwyn lives in a wonderful area.

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-The view from the sheep pen

-is beautiful.

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-I can think of worse places to work.

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-I can think of worse places to work.

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-I love it here.

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-It's quite a view.

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-Yes, it's a shame

-there's fog on Cader Idris today.

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-It's worth seeing

-when the sun is out.

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-And the solitude.

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-Yes, visitors do come around

-but I can't blame them.

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-How long have you been here?

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-Since 1978.

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-Almost 40 years!

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-I'm old, aren't I?

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-I'm old, aren't I?

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-I'm not saying anything!

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-I've enjoyed every second here.

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-It would be difficult here

-without dogs.

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-I wouldn't be here.

-That's my delight.

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-I don't think of it as work,

-it's a pleasure.

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-It's a way of life.

-I'm used to having good dogs.

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-I get great pleasure

-from working with them.

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-Teaching a dog in the little field

-and seeing it develop.

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-Taking it up the mountain.

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-It makes a lot of mistakes

-at first.

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-Then, it starts to get it. That's

-what gives me the greatest pleasure.

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-I like that better

-than sheepdog trials.

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-I prefer training them

-and seeing them develop.

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-When I have the dogs,

-I will take them to sheepdog trials.

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-I need four good dogs

-for my work here.

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-They're farm dogs

-and sheepdog trial dogs.

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-I'm very happy.

-I'm very, very happy here.

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-This year might be your year,

-Medwyn.

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-You might lift the cup

-on Sunday night.

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-I'd like to think that.

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-I don't expect to win

-but I'll do my best.

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-Good luck to you.

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-Good luck to you.

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-Thank you. I'll need it!

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-Good luck to Medwyn and the team.

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-Alun, Meinir and I will be at

-the Trials in Tywyn next weekend...

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-..making a special programme...

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-..which will be shown on S4C

-on Monday 19 September.

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-An hour-long programme

-from the International Trials.

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-After the break, Alun

-takes a look at ewes' milk cheese...

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-..and I chat to a successful author

-from Mid Wales.

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-See you in a minute.

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-Welcome back to Ffermio.

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-Some excellent cheeses

-are being produced in Wales.

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-They're usually made

-from cows' milk...

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-..but goats' milk cheeses

-are also popular.

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-But the latest

-is made from ewes' milk.

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-Alun has the story.

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-Here at Moelyci Farm

-in Tregarth near Bangor...

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-..Carrie Rimes is selling what is

-a new kind of cheese to us in Wales.

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-Ewes' milk cheese.

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-She has been making it for a year,

-and sales are going up and up.

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-Where did you get the idea

-of producing ewes' milk cheese?

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-Well, that goes right back

-to when I was a child on the farm.

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-I tried to make cheese

-from cows' milk at the time.

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-But I had no experience, really,

-and the cheese was quite horrendous!

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-But I could see

-the magic in the process.

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-I left my job

-with the Countryside Council...

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-..and I retrained.

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-I got the opportunity

-to spend three years in France.

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-Eating ewes' milk cheese

-is totally normal in France.

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-The balance between protein and fat

-is perfect for making cheese.

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-I can imagine that it's hard

-to get hold of sheep's milk.

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-Where do you get it at the moment?

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-I have to go all the way to Preston,

-to the Forest of Bowland.

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-Currently, there's no-one

-milking sheep in North Wales.

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-It starts with untreated milk.

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-I immediately add

-the starter cultures.

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-That means that by the time

-I get back to Llangefni...

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-..the milk is just right...

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-..to carry straight on

-with the cheese-making process.

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-The rennet can go straight into it.

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-The rennet can go straight into it.

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-Tell me about the brand.

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-You've created Cosyn Cymru,

-and also Brefu Bach.

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-Brefu Bach is a soft cheese.

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-It's a bit like Camembert,

-but it's not Camembert.

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-What are your hopes as regards

-developing here at Moelyci?

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-Well...

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-..the next step, and the most

-important step, to be honest...

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-..is to get my own dairy.

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-Wow!

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-Without my own dairy,

-I can't really grow.

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-It's been great in Llangefni...

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-..but a lot of other people

-want to use the place as well.

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-If I want to develop

-local milk here...

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-..I have to be ready

-to use the milk every day.

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-At the moment, I can't.

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-The next step

-is to get a dairy here.

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-That's the next big step.

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-After that, I really need

-to make a big effort...

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-..to work in partnership

-with local people...

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-..to develop local milk.

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-Carwyn Adams also spotted

-that same gap in the market.

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-Unlike Carrie, he already had

-the facilities and the dairy.

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-But ewes' milk cheese

-isn't like cows' milk cheese.

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-Ewes' milk cheese is a new product

-at Caws Cenarth this year.

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-We produce soft, blue

-and hard varieties.

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-We got lucky last year.

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-We located a milk supply

-very near to the factory.

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-It comes from five miles away,

-just outside Crymych.

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-Nick and Wendy Holtham's sheep

-are a little bit different.

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-Over the years,

-they've kept a lot of Welsh sheep.

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-But they've bred them

-to produce milk.

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-If we continue with this project,

-I think they'll develop the ewes...

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-..towards producing milk

-rather than breeding lambs.

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-When we started

-using ewes' milk to make cheese...

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-..we had no previous experience.

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-It was different to cows' milk.

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-It had a bit more fat, for example.

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-It was also a bit more delicate.

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-We had to be more sympathetic

-with the milk.

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-Because of the extra fat,

-the salt had to be adjusted.

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-We have had some problems.

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-But producing ewes' milk cheese

-is a learning process.

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-We use pasteurised ewes' milk.

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-We've adapted our own equipment

-here in the factory...

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-..to allow us to put milk into

-the pasteuriser a little at a time.

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-It's easier for us,

-in terms of risk and so on...

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-..that everything is pasteurised.

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-That's what the market demands.

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-Many of us may be familiar with

-feta cheese from Greek holidays...

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-..but ewes' milk cheese

-is relatively new in Wales.

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-How have customers reacted to it?

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-We've had a fairly mixed response...

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-..to ewes' milk cheese.

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-Firstly, the fact that it's made

-from ewes' milk puts people off.

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-But we hope to brand it

-so that people try it first...

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-..without having

-any preconceived ideas.

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-We've had a fantastic response

-from people who have tried it blind.

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-That's the aim - getting people

-to try something different.

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-We've been very lucky this year.

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-We got first prize

-at the Royal Welsh Show.

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-That was quite a shock.

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-That was for the hard cheese.

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-No-one expected it,

-and that was a fantastic boost.

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-It put the cheese

-on the national stage, really.

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-It was great for us

-and for the milk producers.

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-The response

-has taken me by complete surprise.

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-The cheeses have sold out.

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-I don't believe

-in competitions at all.

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-Competitions? No, not for me.

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-But the cheeses have won

-quite a few awards this year.

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-At the British Cheese Awards...

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-..Brefu Bach was named

-Best New British Cheese 2016.

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-That wasn't in the business plan

-at all...

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-..but that has been a big help.

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-Two companies from two ends of Wales

-venturing into new territory...

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-..both with a unique vision.

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-Will ewes' milk cheese

-ever be as popular...

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-..as goats' milk cheese

-or cows' milk cheese?

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-Only time will tell.

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-The best of luck

-to both companies.

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-We're fortunate on Ffermio

-to meet interesting people...

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-..with interesting tales to tell.

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-I went to mid Wales...

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-..to meet a unique woman

-with an exceptional talent.

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-Tia Jones and her husband, John...

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-..keep 800 Welsh sheep, 20 Roussin

-sheep and 30 head of cattle...

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-..at Pwll Iwrch, Darowen in Powys.

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-Both are dedicated to the

-family farm and to conservation...

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-..but controversial global issues...

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-..manifest themselves

-in Tia's writing.

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-Were you raised on a farm, Tia?

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-Were you raised on a farm, Tia?

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-Yes and no.

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-My grandfather

-had a farm in Llanbrynmair.

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-I milked cows at a young age.

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-He taught me a lot

-about some wonderful things.

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-Hares, the mountain,

-walking, horses.

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-He bought me and my brothers

-our first pony when I was seven.

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-He taught me a great deal.

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-How much of your background...

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-..and your way of life

-is in the novel?

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-How much is it influenced

-by rural life and farming?

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-A lot.

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-Not about me personally,

-but things I know about.

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-Foot and mouth.

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-I know people who lost everything

-because of foot and mouth.

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-Things like that.

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-I haven't been through them myself,

-but I did a lot of research.

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-I do a lot of careful research...

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-..to ensure I get my facts straight.

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-Fiction may not be true,

-but you must know your subject.

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-I've lived on a farm,

-I've been out on the farm a lot.

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-I know how rural people think.

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-You gather things in.

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-This age, for example.

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-There's one character

-in The Curlew's Cry...

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-..who comes home

-from the Balkans and Iraq.

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-He's a soldier

-who's originally from Llanfeni.

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-I can bring the world's problems

-back to Llanfeni.

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-Tia may be enjoying

-much success with her writing...

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-..but day-to-day farm work

-is important to her.

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-Are they the right weight, Tia?

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-On the whole, they're over 40 kilos.

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-Some aren't quite ready,

-but I'm pleased, on the whole.

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-They're Welsh crossed with what?

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-Welsh crossed with Roussins,

-a breed from Normandy in France.

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-Not unlike Suffolks,

-but with a smaller frame.

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-Lambing is easier, less trouble,

-with twins and triplets often.

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-Quite strong, standing and suckling

-right away, which is good.

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-When you've finished writing,

-you come out.

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-I love the sheep,

-especially lambing time.

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-You have 800 sheep here.

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-Will you turn them all out

-to a Roussin ram?

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-No. Oh, no.

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-We want to keep some Welsh ewes,

-some Suffolks.

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-My husband likes Texel crosses,

-and Roussins as well.

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-They all fit in well here.

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-You love going around the stock

-on your horse.

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-Yes. I'm fortunate

-that I lead a very good life.

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-It's really nice

-to be out every day.

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-I'm very lucky.

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-You're out farming every day...

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-..surrounded by beautiful scenery.

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-Is this what inspires you?

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-Definitely.

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-I can see the top of Ty'r Sais.

-Cringoed.

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-The village I was raised.

-Llanbrynmair.

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-Back to this valley.

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-It's heavenly.

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-You enjoy training the dogs.

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-You enjoy training the dogs.

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-Very much so.

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-I don't want to buy them in.

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-I like to train my own puppies

-and see the potential.

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-I'm in no rush, so it's OK if

-it doesn't happen in the first year.

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-You enjoy competing.

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-You enjoy competing.

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-Yes, I enjoy it.

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-I really do.

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-I get nervous being in a field

-with sheep and just one dog...

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-..with experts watching.

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-Tia and John believe conservation

-goes hand in hand with farming.

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-As a result, John has planted trees

-on the farm...

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-..using the wood to restore

-some of the old buildings.

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-Pine has been here for a few years.

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-Pine has been here for a few years.

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-Yes.

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-They're huge now.

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-They grow well.

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-I've been farming for 40 years and

-been privileged to see them grow.

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-You've planted some deciduous ones.

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-You've planted some deciduous ones.

-

-Yes.

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-Oak trees and all sorts.

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-You've cut them down

-to use for the barn and so on.

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-I've cut down trees that my father

-and people before him planted.

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-Caring for the future.

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-Are you working on a plan that

-was already in place with the barn?

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-Yes, the walls were there already.

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-I'm lucky I can cut the trees down

-to whatever size we want.

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-We needed a beam.

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-The building is 26 feet high.

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-It was a big help

-that we could saw wood...

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-..that was big enough

-to go across the barn.

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-The experiences

-Tia has here in Pwll Iwrch...

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-..are a big influence

-on what she writes.

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-How do you see things developing

-here?

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-You are so busy with the sheep

-and the writing.

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-I think we'll be farming less

-as we get older...

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-..and some of the children

-will get into farming.

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-I'll be living on my pension...

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-..I think.

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-Farming less, Tia, and writing more?

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-I love sheep

-so I won't be cutting down much.

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-He can cut down...

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-..but I think I'll carry on

-with sheepdogs and the horses.

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-I'm still writing.

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-Do you have any concerns

-about the future?

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-Yes, I have lots of worries.

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-We don't look after

-our world at all.

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-The sea has been wrecked

-with plastics everywhere.

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-There's talk about green issues

-and green energy...

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-..and then the Middle East

-gets blown up.

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-Why look after wind turbines

-if part of the world gets blown up?

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-But I think we're in the best place

-to handle that.

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-A very interesting woman.

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-Tia's novels are on sale

-in the shops.

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-Don't forget about the International

-Sheep Dog Trials this weekend.

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-Alun, Meinir and I will be there.

-I hope we'll see you there too.

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-Good luck to Medwyn Evans

-and his team.

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-Come on, Wales!

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-Thank you for your company.

-See you next week.

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Gyda'r treialon cwn defaid rhyngwladol ar y gorwel, bydd Daloni yn ymweld a chapten Cymru. With the upcoming international sheep dog trials, Daloni meets current Welsh captain Medwyn Evans.


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