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Hello and welcome to Derbyshire. It is 12 months since this programme | :00:00. | :00:15. | |
investigated working practices inside Sports Direct. So, what | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
happened next? Do you think your company has outgrown your ability to | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
manage it? Probably, a long time ago. The man in charge as promised | :00:26. | :00:34. | |
MPs big changes. If he is under pressure he will change. We cannot | :00:35. | :00:43. | |
forget. Also tonight, what really happened at the bottle of Orgreave. | :00:44. | :00:53. | |
They bounced me of the riot shields. They basically not ten bells out of | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
me. The programmes that matter closer to home. | :01:00. | :01:12. | |
A year ago are special investigation revealed the harsh reality of life | :01:13. | :01:21. | |
for thousands of agency workers at the company's warehouse in | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
Derbyshire. The revelations of what was going on behind closed doors | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
attracted attention at the heart of national government. 12 months on, | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
we have been examining what has changed. The Long walk to | :01:33. | :01:44. | |
Westminster to face the UK's lawmakers. Mike Ashley, founder of | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
Sports Direct, finally giving his side of the story about treatment of | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
his warehouse workers. Exposed by inside out. It feels like something | :01:56. | :02:02. | |
out of Dickens. The old workhouse. They don't care. Nobody. One family | :02:03. | :02:10. | |
who were on the minimum wage brave enough to speak out. And the | :02:11. | :02:21. | |
billionaire with cash to splash. Facing MPs wanting the truth about | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
life for 4000 warehouse workers. One day you have a tiny inflatable and | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
you are in control. Wake up one morning and you are on an oil | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
tanker. Whitney is our reporter for inside out. She was one of the | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
reporters who broke the story about Sports Direct. As the journey been | :02:42. | :02:56. | |
worth it? Last year we explained how an agency picture and Packer in | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
Shire Brooke had a stroke in the warehouse canteen. His wife and | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
daughter had also worked there in a culture of fear. He was frightened | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
he would be given a penalty which could lead to losing his job because | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
of an agency six strikes and you're out policy. We also discovered a | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
large number of ambulance calls and reported accidents. I took part to | :03:21. | :03:27. | |
speak with the right people to bring that all out at what has happened in | :03:28. | :03:33. | |
Sports Direct. People who said, he never believed me, who said you are | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
too small for Mike Ashley. We are not going to get nothing. Three | :03:40. | :03:46. | |
months after the programme, Mike Ashley announces he will review the | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
treatment of workers. MPs call him to Parliament. He refuses, but at | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
the last minute, changes his mind. He doesn't know it, but the family | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
are also on their way to the hearing. Eight months after telling | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
their story to us, they are telling it to MPs, but in private. Finally, | :04:10. | :04:19. | |
someone is listening to us. It was very emotional. It is like talking | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
about a horror film. We are really grateful because they've put their | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
necks on the line. It was incredibly brave. When somebody is looking at | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
you in the face, crying and saying no one is listening to us, that made | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
it even more imperative that we challenged and tried to produce | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
solutions. We knew from looking in their eyes that they were telling | :04:46. | :04:46. | |
the truth. First up in public, it is the union, | :04:47. | :05:03. | |
Unite, campaigning for changes at Shire Brooke. This is not typical of | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
a warehouse that it will become typical of a warehouse if we do not | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
do something about the employment practices that are being deployed by | :05:11. | :05:17. | |
Sports Direct. Next up, the two agencies with the ?50 million | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
contract to supply and manage warehouse workers for Mike Ashley. | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
On the left, two bosses from Trans line, the man on the right is from | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
best connection. In our programme, Nina was told she had a strike, a | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
penalty, for getting a drink of water when she was feeling ill. | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
Sports Direct let her go. The supervisor from the agency gave a | :05:45. | :05:57. | |
strike. Fast forward to June 20 16. You had a coughing fit. It is | :05:58. | :06:03. | |
dreadful when that happens and I am glad you could get a glass of water. | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
We have been told that if you asked for a glass of water outside of | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
designated bricks, you would get a strike. Is that fair? I am not sure | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
that is the case. I couldn't comment on an individual circumstance. I | :06:19. | :06:27. | |
wouldn't say it is fair. There are now another 26 water coolers in the | :06:28. | :06:38. | |
warehouse. The committee will answer questions. Finally, the man everyone | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
has come to see. Mike Ashley has already increased pay over | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
revelations over paying workers below the minimum wage. So, what | :06:47. | :06:55. | |
does Mr Ashley have to say about the large number of calls for emergency | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
ambulances revealed in the programme? Mostly for serious health | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
issues, not accidents, including a stroke and a baby born in a toilet. | :07:05. | :07:13. | |
Do you think that is excessive? Yes. What systems are you putting in | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
place to address that? That is part of the review. I am told they were | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
over quick to pick up the phone to call the Ambulance Service. I would | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
suggest that someone giving birth in a toilet in the warehouse was not | :07:31. | :07:44. | |
being overhasty. The company is now recruiting a nurse who will be | :07:45. | :07:52. | |
on-site during the day. Do you think your company has outgrown your | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
ability to manage it? Probably, a long time ago. I think he still | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
doesn't understand how serious it is. You said you woke up one day and | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
your little business was an oil tanker. Shouldn't you get someone | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
who knows how to sail and tried an oil tanker? Possibly. He said his | :08:14. | :08:21. | |
business grew and he didn't have a clue or he couldn't cope with how | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
big it is. He didn't know what has happened there. Straight after the | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
hearing, Trans line arranged a meeting with the family at Shire | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
Brooke. They continue to be paid by the agency. Someone else appears. | :08:40. | :08:53. | |
Mike Ashley turned up. I wasn't, he apologised, he apologised to my dad, | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
to my mum and me for the hard time we had after my dad had a stroke. He | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
promised he would be involved if we needed any support. One month later, | :09:05. | :09:16. | |
the Parliamentary report is damning. MPs find it incredible Mike Ashley | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
has no idea what is going on, but welcome his commitment to change. We | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
said in our report that we felt that workers were being treated like | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
cattle, but they were just commodities, rather than actual | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
people. I do take him at face value and I think there is a willingness | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
to change. Do you plan to drop in unannounced to check up? I think | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
that is important. I will not say when that will be. The programme | :09:47. | :09:53. | |
exposed almost 40 reported accidents in two years, some serious. The | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
committee wants the Health and Safety Executive and the District | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
Council to get more involved. That is without knowing that the company | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
report shows an increase in warehouse accidents. With the new | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
head of health and safety, the company will examine accident | :10:13. | :10:21. | |
trends, just like we did. Now, the Council told me it is putting more | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
resources into dealing with an increase in accidents and the HSE | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
said it will support the council to make sure Sports Direct complies | :10:31. | :10:38. | |
with health and safety procedures. It is September. Since the | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
programme, the share price has more than half. Today is the company AGM. | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
Unlike last year, I am allowed to attend. So, too is the news media, | :10:50. | :10:57. | |
just a day after Sports Direct only report identified serious failures. | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
Yesterday a report published which was commissioned by the company | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
itself which identified serious shortcomings in working practices in | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
the warehouse. The report recommends the notorious strike system should | :11:11. | :11:23. | |
be suspended. Advisers to Mike Ashley steer him through a PR | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
offensive, opening the warehouse doors to change. If the headline is | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
sorry then so be it. He is the media tour guide here to state his case. | :11:34. | :11:41. | |
The turnover is 500 million. It is incredibly Labour intensive and stop | :11:42. | :11:52. | |
finally, I get the chance to as agency workers really want to know. | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
As the strike system gone for good? Has the message got through? Do the | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
agencies realise that? Yes, it is gone. I am told that as of today, | :12:04. | :12:13. | |
there is no strike policy. As far as I am concerned, the strike policies, | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
six strokes, is finished. No problem. I have got to go back. In | :12:22. | :12:34. | |
London the next day and the contents of Mr Ashley's pockets have stolen | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
the show. For the largest union in the country, it is not a laughing | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
matter. You can outsource the responsibility for your warehouse | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
operations simply by outsourcing the management of it. It is the name | :12:49. | :12:55. | |
Sports Direct over the warehouse. It is his reputation and the reputation | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
of that business which has taken a knock because of the consequences of | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
the actions of the agencies. Unite says it is in constructive dialogue | :13:04. | :13:13. | |
with senior management. Still under pressure, Sports Direct has agreed | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
to an independent review as a trial some agency workers are being | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
transferred to permanent jobs at Sports Direct. The chief executive | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
has resigned. Mike Ashley has taken his place. A spokesman said Mr | :13:26. | :13:33. | |
Ashley was therefore too busy to be interviewed. In a statement, the | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
founder of Sports Direct told me we have had our problems in the past, I | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
have said I'll fix it and I will. As a result of the work of inside out, | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
thousands of lives, workers at Sports Direct, will now start seeing | :13:50. | :13:59. | |
their conditions improve. I think it was really worth it to take part in | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
the programme. We have to be brave. People in the street come and say to | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
us, well done to you, to your doctor. We have had big changes in | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
our house. Supervisors and team leaders talk differently with us. | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
They don't shout at us any more. If he is going to be under pressure, he | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
will change. He will change a lot. We can't forget. We can. And we will | :14:28. | :14:40. | |
keep you posted on that story which, since our programme, he never seems | :14:41. | :14:48. | |
to be out of the news. Now, the miners strike remains one of the | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
most bitter industrial dispute in living memory. The so-called Battle | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
for grief, violent clashes between police and striking miners happen in | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
June 19 84. The Home Secretary is expected to announce an | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
investigation into the conduct of police officers. However, some | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
campaigners fear the truth will remain buried. Dan Johnson has the | :15:10. | :15:18. | |
story. The miners strike. A year of picket line confrontation between | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
police and striking miners. Of all the clashes, it was what happened at | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
Orgreave in June 1984 that has never been forgotten. It is remembered as | :15:29. | :15:37. | |
a battle. What made Orgreave different was its scale. Thousands | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
of police officers faced even more striking miners. Police said they | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
came under attack from writing pickets who were unlawfully trying | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
to stop others getting to work. The miners said they were executing | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
their lawful right to pick it when they were brutally attacked and | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
falsely charged with rioting. A miner from Nottinghamshire was | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
arrested that day. He was charged with right but cleared in quite a | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
year later when the prosecution case collapsed. Police officers got me by | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
the arm. They said I was under arrest and I said what are under | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
arrest for? They said throwing stones at police officers. I said | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
look at my hands, they are clean. I haven't thrown nothing. He said they | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
all say that when they get caught. The Barnsley of riot shields, the | :16:28. | :16:35. | |
long interlocking ones. They basically knocked ten bells out of | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
me. It is not just brutality police are accused of. Many miners were | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
charged with riot, Acer serious offence which could have meant long | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
prison sentences. To prove that, police needed plenty of evidence. | :16:52. | :16:54. | |
There are questions about the way that evidence was gathered. In the | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
police lines at Orgreave officers from at least ten different forces. | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
PC Bob Bird was among them, Boston from the West Midlands. He remains | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
convinced that the violence from some of the miners meant they had to | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
be arrested. I am only speaking as one of the grunts who was there with | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
a shield. I didn't see or hear or have any part in people who, for no | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
point at all, were arrested and were fitted up with charges that had | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
nothing to do with their actions. Officers arrested people for | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
illegitimate offences. The charging decisions that were made after that | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
event had nothing to do with the veracity of why they were arrested | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
in the first place. Four years ago inside out revealed documents from | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
Orgreave. Police statements which showed dozens of officers had | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
written the same passages, virtually word for word. It is obvious in the | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
world grave cases that there was widespread collusion. There was a | :17:56. | :18:04. | |
continual barrage of missiles. You can't get statements in the way they | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
have been done here by police officers from different forces | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
involved in different arrests and find such a degree of similarity | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
without there being some degree of collusion. As a direct result of | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
that programme, South Yorkshire Police called in the Independent | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
police contains commission. For two and a half years it considered | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
evidence to decide whether to launch an investigation. Nobody contacted | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
staff. I'd never heard anything. Nobody investigated me, nobody said | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
anything. Nothing happened at all. Why should there have been? They | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
said they would investigate. I heard nothing at all. What do you think | :18:47. | :18:56. | |
about that? It sounds like a cover-up, doesn't it? Ten months | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
after South Yorkshire Police referred itself to the IPCC, myself | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
and our editor or invited here to IPCC headquarters in London. We were | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
surprised to be told they had not yet contacted all the forces who | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
have officers at Orgreave and even South Yorkshire Police hadn't | :19:17. | :19:18. | |
provided all the documents they had been asked for. The IPCC have told | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
us that all forces have been asked for documents a peak weeks after our | :19:25. | :19:30. | |
meeting and that they were provided. In June last year, the IPCC | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
announced it would not be holding an enquiry. That immediately protocols | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
for the government to take action. I have written to the Prime Minister | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
this afternoon and asked him to consider setting up a public enquiry | :19:43. | :19:46. | |
or at least the Pillsbury style panel. The Hillsborough panel was an | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
independent research team which reviewed documents. It was led by an | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
academic. The issue about Orgreave is a perfect test ground for the | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
Hillsborough Independent panel model. It had never happened before | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
when you had an independent panel brought in not too build a case, not | :20:08. | :20:15. | |
to answer a case, but simply to review all the material pertaining | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
to that case. Michael Mansfield defended the miners in the Orgreave | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
trials. For three decades he has campaigned for an enquiry into how | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
they were treated. Is it not best just left alone? They said that | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
about Hillsborough. Then you get a jury saying wait a minute. Those | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
products were important. Theresa May has recognised that in her speech to | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
the Police Federation only this year. The toxicity committee stream | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
of justice has to be taken out. Because historical enquiries are not | :20:48. | :20:56. | |
archaeological excavations. They are not purely exercises in truth and | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
reconciliation. They do not just pursue resolution, they are about | :21:02. | :21:11. | |
ensuring justice. Justice. Let's step back and look at the people who | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
have never been brought to account what made accountable publicly, the | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
people who were behind the organisation. That is senior police | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
officers in South Yorkshire Police, as well as people beyond that in the | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
Home Office and in the Cabinet. That is why it has to be a public enquiry | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
with full powers. The new Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, promised | :21:36. | :21:37. | |
campaigners she would announce a decision by the end of this month. I | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
have a feeling somebody wants to kick this into the long grass. Lord | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
Tebbit was a member of the Cabinet with a reputation for opposing trade | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
union power. What do you think of the calls for an enquiry? If there | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
was an enquiry it would be a waste of time and money. The facts are | :21:58. | :22:04. | |
absolutely clear. They are well known. We don't need to be hirsute. | :22:05. | :22:13. | |
The legal profession will Nick Williams out of it, to what end | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
question mark these events were 30 years ago. If I were put in charge | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
of such an enquiry, we could finish it off in a couple of days and it | :22:20. | :22:25. | |
would be done and dusted. There were people coming out of the past and we | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
all know who they are saying this is a waste of money and time, we should | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
not be doing this. I dare say if that individual had suffered in the | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
same way they would want to know, they would want to know. You need to | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
know in a vibrant democracy. The man who led the Hillsborough panel | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
doesn't think he will be offered a similar job again. I think we | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
asserted such great independence that the US that model in other | :22:55. | :23:01. | |
circumstances would be considered difficult for the interests of | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
government and civil service. There are police officers who will not | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
talk about this. Not because of any wrongdoing, but from a deep-seated | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
belief that they will only try and find some way in which to implicate | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
you in something that with hindsight, is seen to be wrongdoing. | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
If you did a cram 32 years ago, with police forget about it? They don't | :23:26. | :23:33. | |
say it 32 years ago, I will let you go. They will still want answers. | :23:34. | :23:43. | |
Same as what we still want answers. The place has been transformed with | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
new businesses and new homes, even a new name. It is unrecognisable. But | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
for the people who were here that day, especially for the miners, | :23:53. | :23:55. | |
there is no forgetting what happened. That is it from us this | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
week. Goodbye. Good evening. It has been a week of | :24:00. | :24:34. | |
easterly winds begin. The high-pressure sat across Scandinavia | :24:35. | :24:35. | |
blocking | :24:36. | :24:36. |