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the BBC's Inside Out teams. | 0:00:01 | 0:00:04 | |
Hello and welcome to Inside Out with me, Dianne Oxberry. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
This week, it's no longer just just one for the road. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
We investigate a growing number of people driving under | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
the influence of drugs. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
They're going to lose their job and lose their licence | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
and they don't think about this before they go out on the road. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
We report on the Cumbrian farmers feeling left out | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
in the cold by their landlords, The National Trust. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
What would Beatrix Potter make of it all? | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
She would be utterly horrified at how much has gone into tourism | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
and everything else. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
I don't think the higher management have any interest in agriculture. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
And we meet the Singh twins who are bringing their art to live | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
with augmented reality, just like the recent Pokemon craze. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
Wow, it literally comes to life! | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
New figures show that there are a growing number of people | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
on our roads driving under the influence of drugs. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Jacey Normand has been out with the Cheshire police | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
as they try to combat the offenders. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:11 | |
These videos show people driving recklessly as they try | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
to evade the police. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
The drivers' actions show a complete disregard for other road users | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
whilst speeding excessively on our roads. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
They all felt they had a reason to try to avoid capture. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
They were all found to be driving under the influence of drugs. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
The latest video from the road safety campaign THINK | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
is targeted at young men. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Those most likely to use drugs and get behind the wheel of a car. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
In order to effectively police this, the government changed the drug | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
driving law in March 2015 which gave Cheshire Police and Inspector Steve | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Griffiths additional powers to combat offenders. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:20 | |
In the past we couldn't test on the roadside and since then | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
they've introduced drug wipes. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
So we can now test on the roadside. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
We were finding there was an issue with people using drugs before | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
driving and this has given us a good way of testing and taking them off | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
the road if need be. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
But certainly what it's found is there are people out there who do | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
take those risks daily and the amount of arrests we've had | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
demonstrates that we're onto it. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
We're going to talk a little bit now about Section 5a. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
It was introduced in March 2015 and includes... | 0:02:48 | 0:02:54 | |
At this training centre, these Cheshire police officers | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
are learning how to use the new equipment. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
And it will give us an indication if it tests positive for either | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
cocaine or cannabis. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
They're also being walked through the FIT test, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
an American-style sobriety test, which is useful in finding out | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
if a driver's ability is impaired through drugs. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
Officers have a power to do a breath test for alcohol. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
A roadside test for drugs and also one of these FITs. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
The only issue we have is that they only detect cannabis | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
or cocaine at the scene. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
If an officer suspects there is impairment caused | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
by any other type of drug, the driver can be taken back | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
to the station for a blood test. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
There are a considerable amount of drugs as regards to illegal drugs | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
and prescription drugs which can be misused and have an | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
effect on drivers. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
The drug driving law sets strict limits for 17 different drugs. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
Police can now test for illegal drugs like cannabis, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
cocaine and ecstasy, but also prescription drugs | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
like Temazepam or Diazepam, used for anxiety and sleeping | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
problems and also, morphine-based pain killers. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:15 | |
And these new powers have produced results. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
In 2016, Cheshire Police arrested 966 people for failing | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
a roadside drugs test, and so far over 500 | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
of those have been charged with drug driving offences. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
One of the officers on the front line is Chris Buckley. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
He's been patrolling the streets of Cheshire for 12 years. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Chris took me out on an evening shift and he told me | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
what he looks for. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
You kind of get used to not sort of stereotyping, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
but what sort of cars or vehicles get used by people who may use | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
cannabis or cocaine. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
It is a bit of the bobby's nose and it does literally become | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
the bobby's nose as sometimes you're following a vehcle and, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
believe it or not, you can actually smell it coming through the air | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
vents from the car. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
You do have your own little ways, all the places where you might go | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
where you think there's a good chance you might get somebody. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
What was the speed limit down that road you just came down? | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Do you know you have got a light out at the front? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
A few broken tail-lights and some questionable driving means Chris | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
has stopped quite a few cars this evening. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
The majority of people wouldn't dream of drink driving. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
They use the two-pint rule. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
In fairness, you can can never go by the two-pint rule because you've | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
got a legal limit of 35 for drink driving and that could be | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
two pints for you, it could be three pints for me. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
We just don't know. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
With the law being so new, I wondered how anyone | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
using recreational drugs could know the limits for driving. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
It can't be measured in the same way that people do with alcohol. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:08 | |
I can't imagine someone would sit there on a Friday night | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
with their mates and think, "You know what, if I have | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
two spliffs tonight, I'm gonna be fine tomorrow, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
but I won't drive tonight" and that's the trouble. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
A lot of the times they'll say, "Well, I've not had any today. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
I had some yesterday or the day before. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
I wouldn't dream of drink or drug driving" but unfortunately you are. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:31 | |
And then, on a routine check, his copper's nose pays off. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
Is it your vehicle? | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
Are you insured on it? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
Really? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
You are not, are you? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
Have you got cannabis in there by any chance? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
When did you last have some? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
I can smell it. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Have you got a driving licence? | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
That would explain your driving, then. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
Pass me the key. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
No insurance and a provisional licence. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:10 | |
Right, this takes eight minutes but we have paperwork. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
You know cannabis can stay in your system for some time, don't you? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:24 | |
Right, that has indicated you've got cannabis in your system so I need | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
to tell you you're under arrest for driving with the drug level over | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
the prescribed limit. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
All right? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
It's a good result for us. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
We've got a drug driver and an unlicenced driver off the road. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
But for him, his car's been towed away, or his girlfriend's car | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
has been towed away, so he's gonna get | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
an earful for that. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
He's going to get a disqualification. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
And what's this chap here for? | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
Been stopped dring a motor vehicle... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
He smelt of cannabis and failed a drugs test. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
At the station the driver is processed and blood is taken | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
by a nurse to find out what drugs he has in his system. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
The results take about a month to come back. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:31 | |
He's got a lot to worry about. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
Financially it's going to hit hard. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
He's potentially just ruined his life through stupidity. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
Throughout December in Cheshire, 156 people were arrested for drink | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
driving with the drug driver arrest figure at a total of 111. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:59 | |
Both Merseyside and Greater Manchester Police also reported | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
an increase in drug driving arrests in December, compared | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
to the previous year. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
It's perhaps surprising that in the space of two years under | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
new laws that the figures for both are creeping ever closer together. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
I've been to numerous collisions where alcohol | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
and drugs are a major factor. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
Also, being a family liaison officer, you get to deal | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
with the families and having to be the one who goes and knocks | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
on the door and tells that family. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:28 | |
It has a devastating effect on, not only the victim and the victim's | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
family, but even the offender. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
They can potentially go to prison. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
They can lose their job. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
They can lose their licence and they just don't think about this | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
before they go out on the road and it's selfish. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Farming has sustained the Lake District for centuries, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
but now one of the country's largest charities and landowners stands | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
accused of being out of touch with the challenges of working | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
the Cumbrian fells. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Chris Jackson has been investigating the mounting tension | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
between the National Trust and the hillfarmers | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
of the Lake District. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:14 | |
The peace and tranquillity of the Lakes has been | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
The Lake District, loved and revered by millions. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
But the inspiring landscape conceals mounting fury. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
They are not believing in the people that have been here for generations. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
I don't think, the higher management have any interest in agriculture. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:41 | |
The charity, The National Trust, owns around a fifth of this dramatic | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
landscape and 54 upland farms. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
It has always been a challenge to make a living for the generations | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
of families who farm at these fells, but now those who work the land | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
say their landlord is out of touch and is making | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
their lives even harder. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
WHISTLING. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
I love this. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
This is us. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
The landscape is our identity and we have committed ourselves | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
as a family for three generations to this landscape. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
But Isaac's future is uncertain. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
His landlord, The National Trust, has given him a 15 year farm tenancy | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
which runs out in four years. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
Do you feel that you need to speak out on this? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
They have left me no choice. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
In order for me to carry out what we have done for generations, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
they need to give me a platform to do it. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
A secure platform and they are not doing that. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
Isaac's concerns for his future are just one of the things | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
I want to talk to the Trust about. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
This is a particular landscape isn't it and to make any kind | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
of commitment to it, it is a hard living and not very | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
profitable, frankly, so surely they deserve a bit more | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
commitment from you to them? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
I always see tenancy as a marriage between two people. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
An organisation represented by a person and the tenant coming | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
in and they need to make sure that the marriage works and you have | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
break clauses during that period to make sure that it is working | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
for them and working for the landlord. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
It is not unreasonable and at times, we separate. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
The ones where it is working really well where they are delivering | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
on the tenancy they have signed, it is working financially | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
and viable, of course we want them to stay. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:36 | |
The negative headlines for The National Trust began here at | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Thorney Thwaite Farm near Keswick. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Last summer the farmhouse and land came up for auction and the Trust | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
put in a bid of nearly ?1 million, just for the land. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:52 | |
And that was 200 grand over the asking price. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
And the price was actually going down at the time. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
It was. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
The auctioneer was bringing the price down and The National | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Trust person made an absurd bid of 950000 and I couldn't | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
work on that. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:10 | |
Peter lives next door to Thorney Thwaite Farm and thought | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
he was in with a chance of buying both the farmhouse and the land. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
He is also a National Trust tenant and was left fuming. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
Six generations of Edmondsons have been here and we were going | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
to continue to conserve the land at Thorney Thwaite as a farm. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
One of the family members. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
It was basically split. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
It was ruined. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
It is ruined now. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:34 | |
It will never be a farm again. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
Do you still stand by the decision to buy the land but not farm? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
We stand by the decision we made to buy the land. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
We bought that land because we felt it was of international significance | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
along with the other land in the area. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
A rich mosaic of farmland, woodland and the fell. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:56 | |
Thorney Thwaite, bit of a PR disaster and you must regret it. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
We regret we did not manage to communicate as best | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
we could and we were taken by surprise by the negative feelings | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
towards the purchase, because we imagined that people | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
would think it was a good thing that we were buying the land | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
on behalf of the nation and securing it. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:17 | |
At least these guys are happy, Peter. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
You go that way and I'll go this way. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Since the sale, Peter has locked horns with the trust, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
relations are at an all-time low as he discovered the | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
director-general of the trust came to the valley before Christmas. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
Dame Helen Gosch visited Thorney Thwaite Farm, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
why did she not ask to meet me? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
Let's smooth things over, she had not got the guts | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
to come and speak to me. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
We chose not to go and see Mr Edmonson, because we felt | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
that the relationship was not in such a great place. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
That was the time to make it all up, wasn't it? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
The boss is in town, time to make up? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
I guess we could have done that but we chose not to. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Feels like talking to the tenants that the trust has sort | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
of lost its way over the last few years. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:07 | |
There is a new Chief Executive, new strategies and it | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
all feels very remote, quite scary for people. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:18 | |
Viv represents many of The National Trust tenants | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
and says her members believe that farming is no longer a priority. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
They have come up with new strategies and the conservations | 0:15:25 | 0:15:31 | |
of biodiversity seemed to be what they are concentrating on. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
They will talk about farming but it is usually lower down | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
the list and as we know, as we look around here, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
it is the farming systems that deliver this landscape | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
and are maintaining what we have got. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
It is about working hand in hand, environment and farming, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
not environment or farming. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
We're not after a significant change here, we are after | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
an adaptation place | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
by place and the joy of the Lake District is every | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
valley is different. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
You walk into one, it has a different feel to another. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
The plans that you talked about earlier, we really do | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
want to develop more than ten year plans, long-term plans shared | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
with our tenants and the community which set out what is special | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
about the valley and how we want to be able to manage it | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
into the future and at the moment we do not have that shared vision | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
and plans that would maybe overcome some of these problems. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:28 | |
This farm was one of the properties given to The National Trust | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
by its most famous benefactor, Beatrix Potter, author | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
and hill farmer. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
I think she would be absolutely horrified at how much they have gone | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
into tourism and everything else. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Eric has devoted over 30 years to farming and he says the trust now | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
has other priorities. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
I don't think the higher management have any interest in agriculture. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:56 | |
What is the one thing you would like the trust to do? | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
I would like them to come out onto these farms and show an active | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
interest in what our problems are and what we need | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
to keep these farms viable. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:11 | |
It is great coming on a nice sunny day but you know | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
what it is like today, the wind is trying to blow us over. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
That is the reality of it. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
Are you more interested in tourism in the lakes than farming? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
No, we're not more interested in tourism, tourism has | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
a fundamental role to play here and a lot of the economy | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
in the Lake District in particular comes from tourism. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
A lot of our farms have diversified over the years, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
based on the back of the tourism industry and the trust as a whole, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
we have a key role to play. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
It is not either or, it is both. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
Glad to speak to you of course, we would also have liked to speak | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
to the director-general who chose not to speak to us. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Can you give us a guarantee that we can get an interview | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
with her and get farmers along? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
That is a question for Helen, not me. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:03 | |
The day after we met Mike, his boss, director-general | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
of The National Trust, Dame Helen Gosch came to Cumbria | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
and told a conference of farmers and conservationists that | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
suggestions that the trust was losing its commitment to upland | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
farming could not be further from the truth. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
The past few months have been a bruising experience for both | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
The National Trust and some of its hill farmers. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
And if this landscape is to be more than just a beautiful backdrop, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
then some sort of lasting peace needs to be brokered | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
which will allow it to continue to be a vibrant environment for both | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
farmers and visitors. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Liverpool artists the Singh Twins have never been afraid to tackle | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
difficult issues and their Indian heritage with their artwork, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
now they are embracing the latest digital technology | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
to bring their art to life, as I've been finding out. | 0:18:54 | 0:19:03 | |
There is more to the Singh twins than meets the eye. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
And the same can certainly be said for their artwork. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:22 | |
It reflects who they are - proud Scousers who love | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
their home city of Liverpool. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
But who are also in touch with their Indian heritage. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
They are currently working toward a major exhibition | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
in Liverpool next year. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Their work is intricate and painstaking. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
There's a lot of pleasure that comes from creating something | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
that is so technically skilled and decorative. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
You feel a sense of achievement so, although your neck and your back | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
is aching and you feel you are never going to get through this | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
and it's taking forever... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
Yes, it's physically challenging. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
I think the end result makes it worthwhile and that challenging | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
yourself to progress and become better and better at | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
what you are doing. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:35 | |
In 1980, aged just 13, they embarked on a journey to India | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
that would change the course of their lives. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
My father and his uncle built this homemade motor-home. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:51 | |
Quite spontaneously, we just jumped in this vehicle one | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
day and trundled across to India through Europe and the Middle East, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
right the way through the Iran-Iraq War, I have to say, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
and then spent a month in Pakistan trying to get into India. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
And then eventually got across the border and travelled | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
for eight months around India itself. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
It really opened our eyes to the whole diversity of Indian | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
culture, not just the arts, but the history as well and I think | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
it was a real turning point in our lives and having an influence | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
on, having a real pride in our Indian heritage. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
And it was during this first visit to India the twins fell in love | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
with Indian Miniature, a traditional Indian art form that | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
dates back many centuries. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
We were just bowled over by this style. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
But it was something that was so exquisite in the detail | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
and the draughtsmanship and the vibrant colours | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
and the use of gold. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
So the works were literally illuminated, almost jewel-like. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:51 | |
The twins have never been scared to tackle controversial | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
subjects in their art. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
With the Iraq War for example it was something, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
a painting that we did, which was called Partners | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
in Crime: Deception and Lies, which was about the whole debate | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
and the reasons for going to war. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
That was an art work that actually happened a couple of years | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
after the event itself. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
We've always learnt as artists that it's sometimes not always the best | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
thing to jump in and be current because as these arguments | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
and debates develop. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:17 | |
More facts come out. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
It gives you more food for thought and a balanced view to then | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
document in the work itself. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
Similarly with another political painting called 1984, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
which actually depicts the Indian Government's storming | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
attack on the Golden Temple in 1984, which is the centre of the Sikh | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
faith in Amritsar in India. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:36 | |
Their latest work of art Indigo will form part | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
of their next exhibition, examining the relationship | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
between India's ancient blue dye and the history of global trade, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
politics and slavery. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
The focus is a 17th century queen called Mumtaz Mahal. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
So she's dressed in a traditional 17th century dress for the top half, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
but for the bottom half she is wearing a pair | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
of modern blue jeans. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
Most people think that blue jeans was invented by Levis, you know, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
part of the American Dream. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
But actually if you dig deep enough you will find | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
these indigo dyed jeans, or denim fabric trousers, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
were worn by sailors way back in the 17th century in Indian ports, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:12 | |
you know, in a place called Dungri in India where the people | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
were producing this sturdy cloth and dying it blue. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
Which is where the word dungaree comes from, of course. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:25 | |
In a ground-breaking venture, the twins have teamed up | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
with a creative design technology company from Liverpool to literally | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
bring their art work to life with an app. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
Well, Andy, here we have the artwork of Indigo, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
about seven, eight foot high. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
I can get that but what I don't understand is what you guys | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
have done with the app to enhance this artwork. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
So you hold the iPad or iPhone up to the artwork and it comes to life. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
Wow! | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
It literally comes to life, doesn't it? | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
So you can hold it up to any aspect of the artwork and click on. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
You can click on this bit there and it brings out some | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
information about that character in the artwork. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
So you've got a text box that explains all | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
about the character there. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
All the time it's moving and growing and developing. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
The flowers are blooming, the religious icons | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
are doing something. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
You've got serpents swimming in the sea. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I mean, it really does enhance the work and this is sometimes | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
the challenge between technology and art to make them | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
work hand in hand. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
But this is fabulous, isn't it? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
We were really interested in how we could do something subtle | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
and inspiring and continue the Twins artwork and do something that was | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
very in keeping with their work. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
And this is just the prototype. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
The twins are planning to use augmented reality with as much | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
of the artwork in the exhibition as they can. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
For us as artists to have our work interpreted this way | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
is absolutely brilliant. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
The audiences are going to have a real fun time | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
interpreting the artwork. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:51 | |
It's so much more enjoyable than reading reams of text | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
on the wall next to an art work. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
The Singh twins have come a long way since that first trip to India. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
But, as they have always done in the past, they aren't afraid | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
to push new boundaries. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
The ideal would be to have all of the works augmented | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
in the same way as this piece. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
I think this would be a real showcase for the exhibition. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
But to have all the works with the ability to be experienced | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
in the same degree and magical experience would be fantastic. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
The possibilities are endless because once you have done one | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
series of work you can apply that same technology to another series | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
of work and it can just go on forever really. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
Honestly it is amazing how that artwork comes to life. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Inside Out is back next Monday. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Goodbye. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 |