Episode 7 Out of the Blue

Hello and welcome to Out Of The Blue. We are live from Belfast.

with us tonight, these guys. Also, it she went solo, worked with a

group of musicians, you cannot dodge them, it is Katie And The

Carnival! How work is in private collection on three continents and

playwright Martin Lynch hired her as artist in residence for his

production company. It is Carrie Neely. -- Deepa Mann-Kler. Now it

is the cat that is some deeper trouble. A tis the pair with some

red hair, Jedward. How are you doing? You look crazy in your red

dress. I am John and he is Edward, together we are Jedward. It is our

first time on Out Of The Blue. How are you guys? I have never had a

guest hit me with a cushion but there is a first time for

everything. We could burst things with our hair. We are so excited to

be back in Belfast. If you could produce some energy for us in this

show, it would go down well. have got nice lipstick on. Hello,

guys! Let's just get one thing straight, which one is which?

Jon, he is Edward, I have a scar on my nose, he has. The ear. -- he has

a pointy ears. She is probably the most photographed woman in the

world. And all those use of Queen Elizabeth II can be found currently

at the Ulster Museum in an exhibition of some 60 portraits of

the monarch from Andy Warhol to Lucian Freud to Malcolm McLaren's

images for the cover of the sex Pistols album. It is clear no two

or artists seek the same person the same way. Carrie Neely found out

more. This is my son's first portrait.

For some of us, it is the limit of our creative endeavours. But

thousands of artists, amateur and professional have spent a lifetime

trying to master capturing a face on canvas. And everyone is

different. The style, the colours, even the subject. You not only get

a sense of the painted but also the painter. Bangor based award-winning

artist Colin Davidson painted these. I did have an idea that I wanted to

paint them larger than life size. That is what started off with the

painting of Duke which was done at the beginning of last year. It

always starts with the person coming here or me going and seeing

them. There is movement. I don't ever want anybody to sit still or

to pose so we chat the whole time. What I am striving for his not so

much depicting an interaction between the artist and the subject,

but what I want to do is almost capture the moment when someone is

lost in their own thoughts. 1, two, possibly three noses there. It is

almost that effect of using a camera at slow speed. Actually, in

static portrait capturing movement as well as form. But as what

Picasso was trying to do here. Nicole Mezey lectures on

portraiture at the Ulster Museum. There is a face on a cave wall

20,000 years old which it is alleged is a portrait. All we can

know it is it is a face. We can really start to talk about

portraiture with the ancient Romans, five centuries BC. They had this

huge cult of personality. Above all, a good portrait speaks to you. The

best portraits make us feel that we know somebody. That we have a sense

of what they would be like a dinner table, of what they would be going

through. This is one of Rembrandt's last self-portraits. The longer you

look at that face, the more we feel you know the man. This was a man at

the end of his life. It is about connecting with people and we are

connecting with somebody back across nearly 400 years now. This

is exactly the opposite. This is about mystery. Leonardo has set her

outside time. Even her hair. If it is styled, you immediately dated --

date it. Headdress is dark, almost dreary. -- her dress. It is miles

away from the bejewelled corseted cutting edge action of the day. He

is saying, this is not a portrait of a woman in Florence in 50 No 4,

he is saying this is woman, almost. And it is this quality in a

portrait, the ability to make you stop and connect to a painting that

makes you set it apart. A portrait can have all the structure and

technique in the world, but if the artist has not managed to connect

the essence of the sitter, it will not join the ranks of the true

greats. The Queen, art and image runs at

the Ulster Museum and will the 15th of generate. Now, boys, you won the

X Factor when you're 17. Everyone thinks we are 15. We were in

finance the other night,. We were in Lapland, we met a reindeer. The

guy would not let us into the restaurant because he thought we

were 15 but we are 20. What about poor Janet Devlin? She is so

talented, she has a great image. I think she will do so many different

things. I think it's a really good platform for Janet. All our fans

can say you do not have to win the show to be a great success. All of

those who are a big success have not actually won it. You went to

represent your country at Eurovision. Representing Ireland!

I've come on a visit what I could find, how could I when when I'm

losing... Can I speak? Yes, you may speak now. What was that like, a

huge global audience? It was crazy. What were you like before you went

on stage because you bounce around? It was crazy. We were literally

standing there and there was a gigantic laser going 10, 9, 8, 7...

We were in front of the camera but you do not see the camera, we could

see people at home. We had support from everyone back in Ireland.

there was the Pope, it was crazy. And you might do it next year?

Everyone fate for us. Right now, we are picking songs. It is all on the

down their right now. But our contenders, watch out because we

will have an amazing song. How will you top it? It will be a better

song than Lipstick. We are going to get you! What about the cost tins?

Because used we are wearing right now. -- the costumes? We will dream

an amazing outfit and we will wake up and ask them to make it for us.

Lipstick is last year's song, you have a new song called Wow Oh Wow.

But guess who is in the video? It is American Pie crazy. What do you

guys think? We love it. We will hear more, of course, in a minute.

Wow Oh Wow is out now! Roy Walker was merely moved City is

telling us his. They have all curated their own private

exhibition of works of art which mean something to them. Today, the

Bangor born MP who has cheaply worked his way through jungles in

Now, there is an old friend on canvas. I have not seen that for a

long, long time. This is a wonderful painting which really got

me interested in art. For water lilies by Claude Monet, which is

not just one painting, it is a series of paintings. I learnt about

Impressionism by this. Just by making small brush marks you create

an overall picture. I think that is like life. A different kind of art,

a different medium, this one is the art of words. And it is my

favourite book. It is a book which really paints a picture of optimism

in the very dark circumstances. The author experienced life at the

roughest end in the Soviet Union. He was banged up in a forced labour

camp in Siberia and one of the inspirational out comes of it was

one day in the life. The Allied deal of a man who is banged up in

prison for about eight years for political crimes -- the idea of a

man. Although the circumstances are dreadful, he has a good day. I was

particularly interested in it because my whole family has been

affected by the Soviet Union. I was born in Bangor but my family are

Estonians so they came from similar circumstances as this. Eyelid

characterise it by saying suffering is inevitable but misery is a

choice -- I would characterise it. That has got to be one of the most

profound photographs ever taken by the human race. The Apollo

astronauts took this picture. It is called Earth rise. They actually

made this journey on 25th December 1968. As they came round the moon,

they read parts of Genesis from the Bible and they wished everybody a

merry Christmas on the Good Earth. It is really moving how they talk

about it. It is an important picture and we forget the message

of Our important blue dot at our I am talking over it. I have

nothing to say. It talks for itself. It has got to be one of the most

compulsively resilient pieces of music ever written about the human

race. This is fanfare For The Common man, written in 1942, the

height of World War II. It summarises in musical terms what I

think politics should be about. What the best human endeavour is

about. It moves you to tears. Anybody who is not moved by this is

not human. It is about seeing the whole view like Monet. It is about

seeing the best situation. It is Lembit Opik with his private

exhibition of his favourite things. If there was a Jedward version...

You have an amazing collection of memorabilia. What would you

include? We have outfits that we war. My God Jackson's autograph. So

much memorabilia. -- Michael Jackson's autograph. One day we

will open a museum. Notice in a secret location at the moment.

not asking you where it is! Crazy. You obviously both like the same

things. Is there anything that you like that he does not? He likes

honey. You know cones for ice cream? I got to an age when I did

like them. I like everything that you like. If you ever ask him, then

they say he is the talkative one and I am a quiet one. Not one of

you is quiet! He was totally sleeping when we were about to go

on air. I was telling him to drink water. I tell him to drink water to

hydrate. If you want energy, drink lots of water and eat healthy.

were just checking our phone. you have both met some fantastic

people along the way. Barack Obama. And Katy Perry, and Michael Buble...

And out of all of them who would you duet with? Who? I don't know.

Barack Obama. He might have a lovely voice. He might wrap.

Britney Spears. Lady Gaga. Who do you think? I don't know. Is there

anybody that you would like to meet that you have not met? Justin

Timberlake. And he Wells? Nelson Mandela. You could have her dancing

competition with him. He looks really call. -- cool. Who do you

want to meet? We are just happy to meet Jedward. You say I love

Jedward but it should be we love Jedward. Justin Bieber and all the

guys are in Belfast chilling. What is the main question that you want

to ask us? I want to know who came up with the turn Jedward? One

minute you were John and Edward and then he became the huge phenomenon

Jedward. We were in a bar and we found an envelope that said you are

Jedward. Somebody said is it John? Is it bed? It was good for the

tabloids. John and Edward takes up too much space on the page. But

Jedward is a brand. Then everybody can say, Jedward! Jedward! Can I

hear you chanting Jedward? Jedward! It has been a revelation to have

you here. All the people watching, our brand new single is out now.

Every single person should download it. We love you guys so much. Out

Of The Blue is the best show. have got the plug. Thank you. Now

for something go broody different. The creators of Wallace and Gromit

have something else on their hands. Animation works as well as it did

since Walt Disney and Mickey Mouse. Toy Story, two dimensional, three-

dimensional, there is box-office in computer modelling. We meet a man

that is getting Northern Ireland on the same page as Hollywood.

They are is a crack in the Northern Irish film industry. A fracture

that needs to be mended. The success of our international TV

and film work is awe-inspiring. Your Highness was made here.

Despite their being lots of talent, our industry has been left quaking

in the wake of Hollywood. Until now. Now one man has appeared in our

midst. His mission is to turn Northern Ireland into an animation

superpower. His name is Greg Maguire. Creative technical

director on Avatar, this man has also worked on Spiderman and Harry

Potter. In the animation world he is Stella. His star is about to

shine on Northern Ireland. originally went to California for a

year and ended up staying. When I was there, I was able to grab on to

some opportunities and great experiences and get some great

movies under my belt as well. The talent here has been amazing. The

skill level, not so much. That is why we are running courses at the

University here. Most companies are probably one or two man bans. The

more I talk to them, the more it seems that they are in competition

with one another. Instead of collaborating with each other. When

you come together, then you can be assured of getting jobs from the

USA. You would think you would take years for changes to occur in the

animation industry, even with Greg's support. You would be wrong.

Meet the new company Black North. The studio is two years old and we

find that we get more and more creative and exciting projects

coming through the door. I think we are an example that you can be

based in Belfast and working on a Hollywood feature film. Adam

Santa's latest film, we are doing the effects on that. We are

painting in elements of something called Atomic Fiction.

confidence grows among animation companies, things are looking up

for the industry. And it is not just animation companies feeling

the Greg effect. We're working on short animation at the moment. We

got funding from the European Commission. It enabled us to come

together as a group and so that something to the German film

festival. It is awesome. People like Craig here, they bring back

the skills. They tell us what we need to know to be at this level.

am amazingly proud. I would not send people's work to California

unless I was proud of it. I have sent some of the student work to

California. I sent it to the director of Star Wars and said,

look at what they are doing with just one year of work under their

belt. He can't believe it. It is outstanding. And one of his

students managed to make ralph looked better when transforming him

into 3D. Truly terrifying. Working away for the last 16 minutes has

been our artist, Deepa Mann-Kler. Can you tell us what you have done?

I have tried to produce a painting which has connections with children

that are in need. I have used lilac, a spiritual colour with yellow, a

healing colour. You describe your work as Abstract Expressionism. Can

you do find that? It is working in an emotional way quite quickly. For

me it is using colour and texture. You were in your mid-30s when you

started working as a professional artist. Why did you leave it so

late? I think just through circumstance. Being a second

generation Indian, my parents wanted me to take an academic route

to protect me from the racism they had encountered and I went down

that road. It has not really stop to because you are branching into

the lucrative market of New York. - - stopped you. Yes, I want to get

into India, to go to Delhi, London. I have some exciting plans with the

galleries that are expanding in the new year. It is difficult to crack

but you are doing very well. Your time in India and England

influences your work ferry profusely. Yes, there was a Celtic

Indian influence in my drawings. Why am drawing on my childhood

experiences in my current body of work. -- I am drawing. And you have

signed that. It is personal to the show, as personal as I can make it.

Some of them have gone, but all of the works have been signed. They

are all being auctioned with proceeds going to charity.

Now it is time for some music. Her voice has touched the heights with

choirs in Manchester. She has done some puppeteer Rome and she fronts

her own band. The band is called Katie and The Carnival. You have

finally hit on music after a lot of things. Yes, I have tried lots of

things. I love working on my own songs. Even within your musical

career in has been varied. This is the first time that you are

standing up as the front person. There must be more pressure. Yes,

but more reward at the end of 12. I love writing music. I love getting

up and performing. You change your musicians and your line-up

according to the noise that you are creating. With these guys, you have

stuck with them for a while. Yes, for a year. We are really having a

bus, making big sounds. It is great. -- having a blast. And a Christmas

album is coming? Yes, we decided to write some Christmas songs. We are

doing lots of Christmas concerts in the run-up. We thought we would

release our own CD. I look forward to catching some of those concerts

and to hearing you play live so. On Out Of The Blue, we meet your

alter ego. Why can't we get enough of men dressing up as women? And we

meet the person that survived concentration camps before bringing

modern dance to Northern Ireland. At least a Hannigan plays live.

you next week at 7:30pm. But to end the programme, we have Katie and

# To the sea I will go running. # Off on my own again.

# Keep those happy thoughts. # My Heart keeps escaping, round

# You never understand anything about my plans.

# We know exactly what you do. # I am going far away from here.

A # Getting far away from you. # I don't need you.

# Going to reach the bottom. # Never thought this day would come.

# When I play her new horizon, # I know you never understand

anything about my plans. # And their exactly what you do.