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Hello and welcome to Out Of The Blue. We are live from Belfast.

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with us tonight, these guys. Also, it she went solo, worked with a

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group of musicians, you cannot dodge them, it is Katie And The

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Carnival! How work is in private collection on three continents and

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playwright Martin Lynch hired her as artist in residence for his

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production company. It is Carrie Neely. -- Deepa Mann-Kler. Now it

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is the cat that is some deeper trouble. A tis the pair with some

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red hair, Jedward. How are you doing? You look crazy in your red

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dress. I am John and he is Edward, together we are Jedward. It is our

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first time on Out Of The Blue. How are you guys? I have never had a

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guest hit me with a cushion but there is a first time for

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everything. We could burst things with our hair. We are so excited to

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be back in Belfast. If you could produce some energy for us in this

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show, it would go down well. have got nice lipstick on. Hello,

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guys! Let's just get one thing straight, which one is which?

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Jon, he is Edward, I have a scar on my nose, he has. The ear. -- he has

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a pointy ears. She is probably the most photographed woman in the

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world. And all those use of Queen Elizabeth II can be found currently

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at the Ulster Museum in an exhibition of some 60 portraits of

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the monarch from Andy Warhol to Lucian Freud to Malcolm McLaren's

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images for the cover of the sex Pistols album. It is clear no two

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or artists seek the same person the same way. Carrie Neely found out

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more. This is my son's first portrait.

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For some of us, it is the limit of our creative endeavours. But

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thousands of artists, amateur and professional have spent a lifetime

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trying to master capturing a face on canvas. And everyone is

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different. The style, the colours, even the subject. You not only get

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a sense of the painted but also the painter. Bangor based award-winning

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artist Colin Davidson painted these. I did have an idea that I wanted to

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paint them larger than life size. That is what started off with the

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painting of Duke which was done at the beginning of last year. It

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always starts with the person coming here or me going and seeing

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them. There is movement. I don't ever want anybody to sit still or

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to pose so we chat the whole time. What I am striving for his not so

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much depicting an interaction between the artist and the subject,

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but what I want to do is almost capture the moment when someone is

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lost in their own thoughts. 1, two, possibly three noses there. It is

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almost that effect of using a camera at slow speed. Actually, in

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static portrait capturing movement as well as form. But as what

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Picasso was trying to do here. Nicole Mezey lectures on

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portraiture at the Ulster Museum. There is a face on a cave wall

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20,000 years old which it is alleged is a portrait. All we can

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know it is it is a face. We can really start to talk about

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portraiture with the ancient Romans, five centuries BC. They had this

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huge cult of personality. Above all, a good portrait speaks to you. The

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best portraits make us feel that we know somebody. That we have a sense

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of what they would be like a dinner table, of what they would be going

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through. This is one of Rembrandt's last self-portraits. The longer you

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look at that face, the more we feel you know the man. This was a man at

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the end of his life. It is about connecting with people and we are

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connecting with somebody back across nearly 400 years now. This

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is exactly the opposite. This is about mystery. Leonardo has set her

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outside time. Even her hair. If it is styled, you immediately dated --

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date it. Headdress is dark, almost dreary. -- her dress. It is miles

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away from the bejewelled corseted cutting edge action of the day. He

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is saying, this is not a portrait of a woman in Florence in 50 No 4,

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he is saying this is woman, almost. And it is this quality in a

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portrait, the ability to make you stop and connect to a painting that

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makes you set it apart. A portrait can have all the structure and

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technique in the world, but if the artist has not managed to connect

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the essence of the sitter, it will not join the ranks of the true

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greats. The Queen, art and image runs at

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the Ulster Museum and will the 15th of generate. Now, boys, you won the

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X Factor when you're 17. Everyone thinks we are 15. We were in

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finance the other night,. We were in Lapland, we met a reindeer. The

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guy would not let us into the restaurant because he thought we

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were 15 but we are 20. What about poor Janet Devlin? She is so

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talented, she has a great image. I think she will do so many different

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things. I think it's a really good platform for Janet. All our fans

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can say you do not have to win the show to be a great success. All of

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those who are a big success have not actually won it. You went to

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represent your country at Eurovision. Representing Ireland!

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I've come on a visit what I could find, how could I when when I'm

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losing... Can I speak? Yes, you may speak now. What was that like, a

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huge global audience? It was crazy. What were you like before you went

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on stage because you bounce around? It was crazy. We were literally

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standing there and there was a gigantic laser going 10, 9, 8, 7...

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We were in front of the camera but you do not see the camera, we could

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see people at home. We had support from everyone back in Ireland.

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there was the Pope, it was crazy. And you might do it next year?

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Everyone fate for us. Right now, we are picking songs. It is all on the

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down their right now. But our contenders, watch out because we

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will have an amazing song. How will you top it? It will be a better

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song than Lipstick. We are going to get you! What about the cost tins?

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Because used we are wearing right now. -- the costumes? We will dream

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an amazing outfit and we will wake up and ask them to make it for us.

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Lipstick is last year's song, you have a new song called Wow Oh Wow.

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But guess who is in the video? It is American Pie crazy. What do you

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guys think? We love it. We will hear more, of course, in a minute.

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Wow Oh Wow is out now! Roy Walker was merely moved City is

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telling us his. They have all curated their own private

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exhibition of works of art which mean something to them. Today, the

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Bangor born MP who has cheaply worked his way through jungles in

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Now, there is an old friend on canvas. I have not seen that for a

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long, long time. This is a wonderful painting which really got

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me interested in art. For water lilies by Claude Monet, which is

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not just one painting, it is a series of paintings. I learnt about

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Impressionism by this. Just by making small brush marks you create

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an overall picture. I think that is like life. A different kind of art,

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a different medium, this one is the art of words. And it is my

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favourite book. It is a book which really paints a picture of optimism

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in the very dark circumstances. The author experienced life at the

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roughest end in the Soviet Union. He was banged up in a forced labour

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camp in Siberia and one of the inspirational out comes of it was

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one day in the life. The Allied deal of a man who is banged up in

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prison for about eight years for political crimes -- the idea of a

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man. Although the circumstances are dreadful, he has a good day. I was

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particularly interested in it because my whole family has been

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affected by the Soviet Union. I was born in Bangor but my family are

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Estonians so they came from similar circumstances as this. Eyelid

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characterise it by saying suffering is inevitable but misery is a

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choice -- I would characterise it. That has got to be one of the most

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profound photographs ever taken by the human race. The Apollo

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astronauts took this picture. It is called Earth rise. They actually

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made this journey on 25th December 1968. As they came round the moon,

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they read parts of Genesis from the Bible and they wished everybody a

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merry Christmas on the Good Earth. It is really moving how they talk

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about it. It is an important picture and we forget the message

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of Our important blue dot at our I am talking over it. I have

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nothing to say. It talks for itself. It has got to be one of the most

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compulsively resilient pieces of music ever written about the human

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race. This is fanfare For The Common man, written in 1942, the

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height of World War II. It summarises in musical terms what I

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think politics should be about. What the best human endeavour is

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about. It moves you to tears. Anybody who is not moved by this is

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not human. It is about seeing the whole view like Monet. It is about

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seeing the best situation. It is Lembit Opik with his private

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exhibition of his favourite things. If there was a Jedward version...

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You have an amazing collection of memorabilia. What would you

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include? We have outfits that we war. My God Jackson's autograph. So

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much memorabilia. -- Michael Jackson's autograph. One day we

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will open a museum. Notice in a secret location at the moment.

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not asking you where it is! Crazy. You obviously both like the same

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things. Is there anything that you like that he does not? He likes

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honey. You know cones for ice cream? I got to an age when I did

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like them. I like everything that you like. If you ever ask him, then

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they say he is the talkative one and I am a quiet one. Not one of

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you is quiet! He was totally sleeping when we were about to go

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on air. I was telling him to drink water. I tell him to drink water to

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hydrate. If you want energy, drink lots of water and eat healthy.

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were just checking our phone. you have both met some fantastic

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people along the way. Barack Obama. And Katy Perry, and Michael Buble...

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And out of all of them who would you duet with? Who? I don't know.

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Barack Obama. He might have a lovely voice. He might wrap.

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Britney Spears. Lady Gaga. Who do you think? I don't know. Is there

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anybody that you would like to meet that you have not met? Justin

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Timberlake. And he Wells? Nelson Mandela. You could have her dancing

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competition with him. He looks really call. -- cool. Who do you

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want to meet? We are just happy to meet Jedward. You say I love

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Jedward but it should be we love Jedward. Justin Bieber and all the

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guys are in Belfast chilling. What is the main question that you want

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to ask us? I want to know who came up with the turn Jedward? One

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minute you were John and Edward and then he became the huge phenomenon

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Jedward. We were in a bar and we found an envelope that said you are

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Jedward. Somebody said is it John? Is it bed? It was good for the

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tabloids. John and Edward takes up too much space on the page. But

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Jedward is a brand. Then everybody can say, Jedward! Jedward! Can I

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hear you chanting Jedward? Jedward! It has been a revelation to have

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you here. All the people watching, our brand new single is out now.

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Every single person should download it. We love you guys so much. Out

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Of The Blue is the best show. have got the plug. Thank you. Now

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for something go broody different. The creators of Wallace and Gromit

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have something else on their hands. Animation works as well as it did

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since Walt Disney and Mickey Mouse. Toy Story, two dimensional, three-

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dimensional, there is box-office in computer modelling. We meet a man

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that is getting Northern Ireland on the same page as Hollywood.

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They are is a crack in the Northern Irish film industry. A fracture

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that needs to be mended. The success of our international TV

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and film work is awe-inspiring. Your Highness was made here.

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Despite their being lots of talent, our industry has been left quaking

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in the wake of Hollywood. Until now. Now one man has appeared in our

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midst. His mission is to turn Northern Ireland into an animation

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superpower. His name is Greg Maguire. Creative technical

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director on Avatar, this man has also worked on Spiderman and Harry

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Potter. In the animation world he is Stella. His star is about to

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shine on Northern Ireland. originally went to California for a

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year and ended up staying. When I was there, I was able to grab on to

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some opportunities and great experiences and get some great

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movies under my belt as well. The talent here has been amazing. The

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skill level, not so much. That is why we are running courses at the

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University here. Most companies are probably one or two man bans. The

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more I talk to them, the more it seems that they are in competition

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with one another. Instead of collaborating with each other. When

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you come together, then you can be assured of getting jobs from the

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USA. You would think you would take years for changes to occur in the

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animation industry, even with Greg's support. You would be wrong.

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Meet the new company Black North. The studio is two years old and we

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find that we get more and more creative and exciting projects

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coming through the door. I think we are an example that you can be

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based in Belfast and working on a Hollywood feature film. Adam

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Santa's latest film, we are doing the effects on that. We are

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painting in elements of something called Atomic Fiction.

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confidence grows among animation companies, things are looking up

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for the industry. And it is not just animation companies feeling

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the Greg effect. We're working on short animation at the moment. We

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got funding from the European Commission. It enabled us to come

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together as a group and so that something to the German film

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festival. It is awesome. People like Craig here, they bring back

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the skills. They tell us what we need to know to be at this level.

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am amazingly proud. I would not send people's work to California

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unless I was proud of it. I have sent some of the student work to

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California. I sent it to the director of Star Wars and said,

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look at what they are doing with just one year of work under their

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belt. He can't believe it. It is outstanding. And one of his

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students managed to make ralph looked better when transforming him

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into 3D. Truly terrifying. Working away for the last 16 minutes has

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been our artist, Deepa Mann-Kler. Can you tell us what you have done?

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I have tried to produce a painting which has connections with children

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that are in need. I have used lilac, a spiritual colour with yellow, a

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healing colour. You describe your work as Abstract Expressionism. Can

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you do find that? It is working in an emotional way quite quickly. For

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me it is using colour and texture. You were in your mid-30s when you

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started working as a professional artist. Why did you leave it so

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late? I think just through circumstance. Being a second

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generation Indian, my parents wanted me to take an academic route

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to protect me from the racism they had encountered and I went down

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that road. It has not really stop to because you are branching into

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the lucrative market of New York. - - stopped you. Yes, I want to get

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into India, to go to Delhi, London. I have some exciting plans with the

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galleries that are expanding in the new year. It is difficult to crack

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but you are doing very well. Your time in India and England

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influences your work ferry profusely. Yes, there was a Celtic

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Indian influence in my drawings. Why am drawing on my childhood

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experiences in my current body of work. -- I am drawing. And you have

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signed that. It is personal to the show, as personal as I can make it.

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Some of them have gone, but all of the works have been signed. They

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are all being auctioned with proceeds going to charity.

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Now it is time for some music. Her voice has touched the heights with

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choirs in Manchester. She has done some puppeteer Rome and she fronts

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her own band. The band is called Katie and The Carnival. You have

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finally hit on music after a lot of things. Yes, I have tried lots of

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things. I love working on my own songs. Even within your musical

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career in has been varied. This is the first time that you are

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standing up as the front person. There must be more pressure. Yes,

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but more reward at the end of 12. I love writing music. I love getting

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up and performing. You change your musicians and your line-up

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according to the noise that you are creating. With these guys, you have

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stuck with them for a while. Yes, for a year. We are really having a

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bus, making big sounds. It is great. -- having a blast. And a Christmas

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album is coming? Yes, we decided to write some Christmas songs. We are

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doing lots of Christmas concerts in the run-up. We thought we would

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release our own CD. I look forward to catching some of those concerts

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and to hearing you play live so. On Out Of The Blue, we meet your

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alter ego. Why can't we get enough of men dressing up as women? And we

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meet the person that survived concentration camps before bringing

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modern dance to Northern Ireland. At least a Hannigan plays live.

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you next week at 7:30pm. But to end the programme, we have Katie and

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# To the sea I will go running. # Off on my own again.

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# Keep those happy thoughts. # My Heart keeps escaping, round

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# You never understand anything about my plans.

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# We know exactly what you do. # I am going far away from here.

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A # Getting far away from you. # I don't need you.

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# Going to reach the bottom. # Never thought this day would come.

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# When I play her new horizon, # I know you never understand

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anything about my plans. # And their exactly what you do.

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