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-In a murder case... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
-..it's a race against time -to discover what happened. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
-Where, why and who's responsible? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
-I'm Mali Harries -and I want to learn more... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
-..about a detective's work. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
-The scrutiny and analysis. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
-The interrogation and psychology. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
-Tonight I meet the detectives... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
-..who spent decades -trying to catch John Cooper... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
-..a man who committed -two double murders in Pembrokeshire. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
-I am not a murderer! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
-I discover what it was like -coming face to face with the killer. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
-I am not a murderer. I don't care -whether you believe it or not. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
-I am not a murderer. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
-Pembrokeshire is renowned for its -rugged and picturesque coastline. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
-The county came to the world's -attention for two double murders... | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
-..that remained unsolved -for decades. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
-Sunday night, December 1985. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
-Three days before Christmas... | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
-..Scoveston Park mansion -near Milford Haven was ablaze. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
-The fire brigade -raced to control the flames. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
-It became obvious early on -that this blaze wasn't an accident. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
-I received a phone call -on Monday morning... | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
-..to go to Milford Haven. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
-A body had been discovered -in a fire at Scoveston Park. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
-The body of a man... | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
-..by the name of Richard Thomas -was discovered on the landing. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
-Firefighters -dragged him out of the house. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
-He had been shot in the stomach. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-Richard Thomas -was a 58-year-old local farmer. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
-After being shot in the stomach -near the farm's outhouses... | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
-..he was dragged into the house. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
-There was no sign -of his sister, Helen. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
-The house was burnt to the ground. -Only rubble was left. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
-Firefighters, -police and forensics... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
-..trawled through the rubble -and found Helen Thomas' body. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
-She had been burnt to a cinder -and was buried beneath the rubble. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-Helen Thomas was 54 years old. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
-During the blaze, her body had -fallen from her upstairs bedroom... | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
-..to the ground floor. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
-She'd been tied with a rope... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
-..before being shot in the head. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
-150 police officers -joined the investigation. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-They suspected Richard Thomas -had interrupted a burglary... | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
-..at Scoveston Park, but there were -no witnesses and no fingerprints. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
-Nobody knew why anyone would want to -murder Richard and Helen Thomas... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
-..at Scoveston. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
-The police -had no idea who was responsible. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
-The summer of 1989 in Pembrokeshire -was warm and dry. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
-Among the tourists -camping at Little Haven... | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
-..were Peter and Gwenda Dixon. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
-The pair, from Witney near Oxford... | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
-..came to Pembrokeshire every year -to walk the Coastal Path. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
-In June... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
-..on the final day -of their holiday... | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-..the pair had gone for -one last walk before returning home. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
-Three days later, -their car was still on the campsite. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-The married couple had vanished. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
-Their son was expecting them back on -the Monday but they never returned. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
-He didn't know where they'd gone -or what had happened to them. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-After combing the area... | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
-..police found their bodies in -undergrowth near the Coastal Path. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
-Gwenda Dixon -had been shot in the back. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
-Peter Dixon's hands had been tied -behind his back before being shot. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:09 | |
-The murderer -had stolen Peter Dixon's bank card. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-It had been used in Pembroke, -Carmarthen and Haverfordwest. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
-The person using the card became -the focus of the investigation. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
-Several witnesses -in Pembroke and Haverfordwest... | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
-..had seen a man -they described as a wild man... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
-..with an old bike. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
-They came up with an artist's -impression of the suspect... | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
-..based on a witness's description -of the man in Haverfordwest. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
-This was the person -who used Peter Dixon's bank card... | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
-..and this, in our eyes, -was the murderer. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
-But with more than -4,000 statements... | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
-..the police -were drowning in paperwork. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
-Detectives pursued various theories -and a possible IRA connection. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
-At the end of November, -next to a public path in Newgale... | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
-..they came across -a cache of weapons and explosives. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
-Two members of the IRA retrieved -them and they were arrested. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
-People thought... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
-..that Peter and Gwenda Dixon -had been murdered by the IRA. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
-With two double murders unsolved... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-..Dyfed-Powys Police -was under pressure. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
-A spate of burglaries in the east -of Milford Haven were also unsolved. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
-Operation Huntsman was launched to -try and get answers to those cases. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
-What we did in the end was look at -where the burglaries were happening. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-We tried to work out -where each of them had taken place. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
-There were -close to 250 burglaries in all. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
-This map clearly shows the pattern. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
-This is a two-mile radius. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
-This is the area -where houses were being burgled. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
-This is where police dogs... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-..were tracking the footprints -of the burglar back over the fields. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
-These are coming from -different directions. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
-The burglar was throwing -police dogs off the scent... | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
-..by scattering curry powder... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
-..and wearing gloves -to avoid leaving fingerprints. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
-At night, he was also watching -the police's efforts to catch him. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
-He was an accomplished planner -because he did everything on land. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
-All these barbed wire fences -had been cut. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
-These blue dots -are where he'd cut the fences? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
-Yes, he cut the fences for -one purpose - for a quick getaway. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
-If he was rumbled in the house... | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
-..he could scarper, -knowing he had a clear getaway... | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
-..with no fence to stop him. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-Police questioned locals... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
-..and collected fingerprints and -blood from men in St Mary's Park. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
-Of all the locals, only two men -refused to give blood samples... | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
-..one of whom was afraid of needles. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
-The other was John Cooper. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-John Cooper was a farm labourer -who liked playing darts. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-In the 1970s, he won 90,000 -in a spot-the-ball competition... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
-..before spending it -and gambling it all away. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
-He had a reputation -for being violent. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
-It's no wonder witnesses didn't come -forward with John Cooper's name. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
-His family -and the locals were afraid of him. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
-He attacked his landlord, -who was so afraid... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
-..that he didn't ask John Cooper -for rent ever again. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-Jim Morris -visited Cooper at his home. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
-He noticed videos that'd been stolen -in the burglaries on his shelf. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
-I had a conversation with him. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
-I knew straightaway he was the man. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
-The police -found a glove, a balaclava... | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
-..and a gun in Sardis -following an armed robbery there. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
-After arresting John Cooper... | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
-..and searching his house... | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
-..they found further evidence... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-..including keys he'd kept -from the houses he'd burgled. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
-500 keys were found -in the sceptic tank. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
-They were recovering items -well into September... | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
-..almost nine months -after he was arrested. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-They're using me to clear old -crimes. They shouldn't be allowed. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
-Shouldn't be allowed. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
-In December 1998... | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
-..after being found guilty of 30 -burglaries and one armed robbery... | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
-..John Cooper -was jailed for 16 years. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
-He was also under suspicion -for the two double murders. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
-There was also a possible connection -to a sexual assault in the area. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
-In March 1996... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
-..a man in a black balaclava -threatened five teenagers... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
-..in Steynton near Milford Haven. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
-He was armed with a shotgun. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
-He ordered them to lie on the floor. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
-He raped one girl... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-..and sexually assaulted another. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
-As he left, he fired his gun... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-..into the air. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
-We used Cooper's voice... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
-..among other voices -as voice identification. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-Four of the youths -picked out Cooper's voice. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
-But this evidence alone wasn't -enough to bring a case against him. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
-We kept in mind the possibility... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
-..that the double murders -of the Dixons and the Thomases... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
-..were related to this case. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-But we had to find concrete -evidence, forensic evidence... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
-..which we didn't have. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
-They needed more evidence, -and urgently too... | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-..otherwise John Cooper -would once again be free. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
-. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:29 | |
-Subtitles | 0:12:32 | 0:12:32 | |
-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
-At the turn of the Millennium... | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
-..thief John Cooper was in prison. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
-With the mystery of Pembrokeshire's -two double murders still unsolved... | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
-..police were keen -to interview Cooper again. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
-It's Bullseye. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-And here's your host, Jim Bowen. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
-In May 1989, John Cooper appeared -on the Bullseye programme on ITV. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
-You've got an unusual hobby, John. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
-You've got an unusual hobby, John. - -Yes, the scuba diving. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-It's the place to do it down there. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-It's the place to do it down there. - -We've got the coastline, yes. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
-It was filmed a month before Peter -and Gwenda Dixon were killed... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
-..near Pembrokeshire's Coastal Path. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-What are you going to do? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
-What are you going to do? - -We'd like to gamble. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
-In 2009, -after launching Operation Ottawa... | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
-..to reopen the murders... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
-..detectives -got hold of this footage. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
-After watching the footage, -there was a similarity... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-..between Cooper's appearance -and the artist's impression. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
-The similarity was astounding. John -Cooper was now their main focus. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
-Evidence found at Cooper's house... | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-..was sent for forensic tests -to see if developments in DNA... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
-..could provide detectives -with answers. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
-In 2008, Cooper was -about to be released from prison. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
-The team decided -to question him about the murders. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
-This is the detective who came -face to face with John Cooper. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
-I was just going through things -and keeping him talking... | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
-..because we were told -not to make him angry. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-Didn't part of you want him to -lose his temper in the interviews? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-Yes, but the advice -we were given was... | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
-.."It's a long journey, -there are many subjects... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-"..and we have to go through things -thoroughly, so don't rile him." | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
-It's hard because when you're aware -of the details of the murders... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
-..it does affect you, -but you have to hold back... | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
-..desensitise yourself and -process things professionally. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
-They had a detailed strategy... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-..and many pieces of evidence -to flag up. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
-I remember the first time I saw him, -he looked straight at me... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
-..and he said, -"Have I met you before?" | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
-I said, "I don't think so." -He said, "I'm glad about that." | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
-He was a cold, clinical man. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
-He was devoid of emotion. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-One item of interest -was Peter Dixon's wedding ring... | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
-..that had been stolen. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
-Can you confirm whether or not -that's your signature on the bottom? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
-Yes, that looks like my signature. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
-They found -a receipt signed by JW Cooper... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-..for the sale -of a 22-carat wedding band... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
-..in the week -the Dixons were killed. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
-But according to Cooper, -he'd sold his own wedding ring... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
-..though he didn't recall -what it looked like. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
-He was trying -to dupe the police yet again. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
-I said I found it hard to believe -he couldn't recall his own ring. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:18 | |
-Only one person -recorded in Pembrokeshire... | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
-..as selling -a wedding ring during that period. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
-Was that Peter Dixon's ring -you sold on that day? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-Definitely not, no. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-Another item was the gun used -in the armed robbery in Sardis. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
-John Cooper was making notes -during the interviews. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
-I could read the odd word -as the interview was progressing. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
-I remember -looking at what he'd written... | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-..in relation to the gun -he'd used in Sardis... | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
-..he scribbled a lot -about the Sardis gun... | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
-..and destruction order. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
-Why was he bothered about this gun? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
-Why did he -give this gun so much thought? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-They sent off the gun for tests -and removed the paintwork. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
-Beneath the paint -they found the blood DNA... | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
-..of Peter Dixon. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
-In December 2008... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-..while police were waiting -for further forensic tests... | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-..Cooper -was released early on licence. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-Soon, there would be -damning evidence against him. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
-A fibre from Richard Thomas' sock... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
-..matched the fibres found in the -pocket of a pair of Cooper's shorts. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-Fibres from his glove were found -on Peter and Gwenda Dixon's bodies. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
-And fibres from Cooper's glove... | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
-..also matched those from -the sexual assault in Milford Haven. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
-In May 2009... | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
-..detectives decided -to arrest him again. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
-In his car was a rope and gloves. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-But Cooper -continued to deny everything. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-Gareth Rees interviewed him again. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
-This time, -armed with forensic evidence... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
-..such as his shorts that had traces -of Peter Dixon's blood on them. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:36 | |
-During the interview... | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
-..I was trying to get Cooper -to confess they were his shorts. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
-Have you ever seen the shorts -in this photograph before? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
-I believe those are my bathers. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
-We believe Cooper took the shorts -from the murders at Little Haven... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
-..and had them shortened -in the years afterwards... | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
-..sealing the DNA -under the hem of the shorts. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
-Those have come back... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
-..with DNA profiles... | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
-..which match -to within one in a billion... | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
-..the profile of the DNA -of Peter Dixon, the murder victim. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
-Will you tell me... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
-..what happened on 29 June 1989... | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
-..at that location in Little Haven? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
-I am not a murderer. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
-I don't care whether you believe it -or not. I am not a murderer. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
-You're making things fit to John -Cooper and it's bloody annoying. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
-The facts are, -throughout this enquiry... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-..the only person -we haven't been able to eliminate... | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-..and whose name -constantly crops up is you. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
-I've no further questions. -I'm turning the tape recorder off. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
-In March 2011... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
-..Cooper stood trial -at Swansea Crown Court. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
-After two months in the dock... | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
-..the jury found John Cooper -guilty of both double murders... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
-..and the sexual assault. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
-At Swansea Crown Court... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
-..John Cooper -was given four life sentences. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
-The judge, John Griffith Williams, -said he was a dangerous man... | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
-..and if it hadn't been -for advances in DNA techniques... | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
-..he may well -have continued to evade capture. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-I felt a sense of pride. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
-He was a very devious man. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
-He was clued up -on forensic matters... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-..but he hadn't foreseen -future methods. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
-In the end... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
-..it was advances in forensics -that led to his downfall. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
-When he was sentenced in court, -I thought, thank God for that. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
-I have to admit, -I left the court quietly. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
-I didn't go and have a pint. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-I shed a few tears. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
-Thank God he'll never be freed. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
-Peter and Gwenda Dixon's family... | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
-..return to Pembrokeshire every year -to lay flowers in memory. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
-I can't help but think -that they themselves... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
-..have had to serve a 20-year -sentence to find the truth. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
-It's thanks to the perseverance -of detectives and scientists... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
-..that they eventually managed to -put John Cooper back behind bars... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
-..where he'll spend -the rest of his days. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
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