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-In a murder case, -it's a race against time... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
-..to discover what happened. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
-Where, why and who's responsible? | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
-Tonight, I hear how the remains -of a female dancer in the Gower... | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
-..were found -40 years after she disappeared. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
-And I hear about the North Wales -Police's investigation... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
-..into a skeleton found in woodland. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-We have to find out who he was... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
-..what happened to him and why. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
-Caswell Bay in the Gower. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
-It was near this beach in 1961... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
-..that detectives solved a mystery -that had baffled police for decades. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
-In November, three local men... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
-..explored a cave near -the former lead mine at Brandy Cove. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
-It was there, in a hidden chamber... | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
-..that they discovered -a pile of human bones. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
-I could see a round skull... | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
-..lying on top of the boulders. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
-So I picked it up -and turned it around... | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
-..and it appeared to be -a human skull. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
-One of the men -removed the skull from the cave... | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-..and took it to the police. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
-Following on from that, -a pathologist entered the cave... | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
-..and removed all the bones. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
-It was clear to the pathologist... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
-..that the body had been dismembered -in three parts with a saw. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:21 | |
-They suspected the body -had been there for some years. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
-There were further clues -inside the cave. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
-Beside the bones... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
-..was a hairbrush, rings... | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
-..and tassels that had detached -from the person's clothes. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
-As detectives -tried to identify the body... | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
-..they were told -of a missing person in the area. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-40 years earlier... | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
-..a woman -named Mamie Stuart disappeared. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-Born and raised -in Sunderland in 1893... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
-..she left home, aged 16, -to pursue a stage career. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
-She was a very talented girl. -She could sing and dance. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
-She had her heart set -on the stage. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
-She found work as a chorus girl -and was part of a group... | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
-..called the Five Verona Girls. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
-In 1917 she met -marine surveyor George Shotton. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
-He was older than her, -a professional man... | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
-..who was, by all accounts, -respectable. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-They fell in love -and got married after a year. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
-They moved around the country... | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
-..until they -eventually settled in Swansea. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
-George Shotton -had found work in the city. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
-They moved to a house -on Newton Road in the Mumbles. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
-It was clear at the beginning of -the marriage that she was unhappy. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
-She was spotted on the beaches... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
-..of Mumbles and Caswell Bay... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-..looking forlorn. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
-On top of that, -she wrote letters home... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
-..suggesting to her parents -that it was an unhappy marriage... | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
-..and that she wanted to end it. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-She made one very strange remark. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-She said, -"If I should ever go missing... | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
-"..will you make sure -that you go looking for me?" | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
-And that's what happened - -she disappeared. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-After her suitcase was discovered -at a Swansea hotel... | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
-..her parents phoned the police. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
-Officers searched for her -in Caswell Bay. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-There was no sign of Mamie. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
-Newspaper stories suggested that -Mamie Stuart had moved overseas.... | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
-..to start a new life. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
-Some claimed -to have seen her in New York. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
-Friends of the family claimed -they'd seen her in India in 1923. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-In reality, Mamie's disappearance -was a complete mystery to everyone. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
-The police -questioned George Shotton. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-They discovered -that he lived a secret life. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
-Unbeknown to Mamie, -George had another wife... | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-..who lived in Caswell Bay. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
-They had a child together. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
-George told police he'd -had a relationship with Mamie... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
-..but insisted they weren't married. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
-He said they'd separated -and Mamie had moved out of the area. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
-Though the police -doubted George Shotton's evidence... | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
-..without a body, -there was no proof. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-However, he was arrested -and found guilty of bigamy. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-He was sentenced to 18 months -of hard labour in prison. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-South Wales Police -retain details of serious cases... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-..and any forensic evidence. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
-In 1961, police collected the items -found beside the body... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-..in Brandy Cove... | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-..including rings, ribbons -and other jewellery. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
-In this box is a chain, -a safety pin, fasteners... | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
-..and a pearl button. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
-We know -from Mamie's friends and family... | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
-..that these are the type of things -she wore on her clothes... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-..especially the button. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-For the police in the 1960s... | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-..there was strong evidence -to suggest this was Mamie's body. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
-We have a hair slide. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
-This was discovered -next to the bones. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
-The hair is brown, -the same colour as Mamie's hair. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
-These days, the victim's hair... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
-..would deliver a DNA profile -and quick results for detectives. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
-But even in the 1960s... | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
-..police used the skull -to determine the shape of her face. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
-At the time, in 1961... | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
-..this is the technology they used. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
-By comparing the skull -that was discovered... | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
-..with a photograph -of Mamie Stuart... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-..they used an overlay, -and by doing that... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
-..we can see that the overlay -fitted the photograph. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
-We know it was Mamie Stuart. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
-This is the Face Lab in Liverpool -which helps police forces... | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
-..to identify human remains -by concentrating on the face. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
-The techniques are very different -from those of the 1960s. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
-The first thing we do... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
-..is establish the biological -profile of the remains. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
-The age, the sex of the individual, -the ethnic group, the ancestry. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
-We look at signs -of trauma or disease... | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
-..and we focus specifically -on prediction of facial features... | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
-..from analysis of the bones -of the face. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-We've built up a process and -a database of scanned features... | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
-..and modelled muscles -that we can import... | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-..and build the face, muscle -by muscle, feature by feature... | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
-..on to the 3D model from the scan. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
-Despite the advances, some aspects -are still difficult to determine. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
-Skin colour, eye colour, -hairstyle... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-..the number of wrinkles - texture -information is difficult to know. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
-We have to be careful when we -present this face to the public... | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
-..because we want it -to be recognized. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-We produce an image -in black and white... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
-..that the police can put out -to the public in a frontal view. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
-We focus on the centre of the face -and blur anything like hairstyle... | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
-..that we may not -feel confident about. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
-In the 1960s, -detectives were sure... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-..that the body at Brandy Cove -was that of Mamie Stuart. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
-But it was hard to prove -whether or not she was murdered. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-The evidence of a local witness -proved vital to the inquest. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
-During the inquest -in December 1961... | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
-..a postman said he remembered -seeing George Shotton... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-..carrying a heavy sack -from his house to his car... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-..and driving towards Brandy Cove. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
-The jury decided that it was -Mamie's body inside the sack. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
-Pieces of sackcloth... | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
-..found near the bones -confirmed suspicions... | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
-..that George Shotton -had murdered her. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-But when detectives went to -search for him, they were too late. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
-He'd died three years earlier... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
-..aged 78. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
-On his release from jail, -George Shotton moved to England... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
-..and lived a quiet life. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
-He died in April 1958 -at Southmead Hospital, Bristol. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
-A mere three years -after his death... | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
-..the truth about his secret -came to light... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-..and was widely reported -in the British press. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
-He never thought -Mamie Stuart would be found... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
-..because the body was kept -in a chamber inside the cave. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
-It was purely down to luck... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-..that the men decided -to take that route into the cave. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-Though it took 40 years -to find Mamie Stuart... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
-..the mystery surrounding -her disappearance had been solved. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
-But for detectives in North Wales... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
-..efforts to identify human remains -found in a forest continue. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
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-November 2015... | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
-..and North Wales Police -were called to Clocaenog Forest. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-A discovery amongst the trees... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-..led to a case -full of mystery for detectives. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
-The Rally GB stage -of the World Rally Championship... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
-..was held in the Llyn Brenig area. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
-Due to bad weather, some spectators -went in search of firewood. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
-They were shocked to find bones -in the soil beneath the trees. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
-When they took -a closer look with a torch... | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
-..one of them saw something -glistening under the moss. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
-As they entered this area here... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
-..in this precise location... | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
-..one of them found a skull. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
-He phoned the police -to inform them he'd found a skull. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:03 | |
-A pathologist arrived... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
-..and confirmed it was -a human skull that they'd found. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
-Police found more bones -scattered in the earth. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
-The forensics' team -came to examine the entire area... | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
-..to try and find -the rest of the body. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-As you can see... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-..this area had been cordoned off... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-..and we searched the inner cordon. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
-The forensics' team -spent five weeks... | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
-..searching every inch of the area -in all weathers... | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
-..to find any piece of evidence. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-It was dense with trees, -the weather was dreadful. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
-It was difficult getting here. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-Forestry workers -helped clear part of the forest. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
-It was very difficult -for the team to get here. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
-As soon as they arrived, -we started clearing. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-They had to closely examine the -earth to find the entire skeleton. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
-One part of the skull... | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
-..was found higher up, which -suggests animals had been here... | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-..and moved parts of the body. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
-A team of forensic anthropologists -studied the remains. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
-Specialist biologists studied -the growth of the trees and plants. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
-They took samples -of the earth as well as the roots. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
-We strongly suspect that the body -had been here for a long time. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
-We don't think it was buried here... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
-..but we believe that plants, -leaves and branches... | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
-..were either laid on top of it -or that they'd fallen onto it. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-After conducting tests -on the bones... | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
-..detectives had a profile -of the person found in the woods. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-We took a DNA profile... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
-..which showed it was a man -with a full profile. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
-We knew -it was the skeleton of a man. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
-Afterwards, they were able -to measure the man's height. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
-By now, -we know that it was a person... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
-..of approximately -five foot eight inches... | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-..to five foot -ten and a half inches tall. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
-We also believe that -he was at least 54 years of age. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
-Tests on the skull... | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
-..made detectives suspect -that it was a suspicious death. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
-As yet, -we don't know if he was killed.... | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-..but we're looking into -whether or not he was killed. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
-He'd certainly sustained -some sort of trauma to the head... | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
-..and another part of the body. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
-The next step was to establish -how long the body had been there. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
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-I've got some photos -of the forest we've recently had.... | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-..regarding -this body deposition site... | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-..in relation to the development -of the forest over the years. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
-They're excellent. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-Aerial photographs -give detectives clues... | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
-..about the forest's history -since the 1970s. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-We know -the forest had been replanted... | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
-..at the end of the 1980s. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-It's likely that he wasn't deposited -there at that time... | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
-..because there was no forest -to conceal him. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-The skeleton was discovered -near the village of Pentrellyncymer. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
-A remote location... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
-..off the beaten track. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
-This area is very remote. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
-It makes you think that it's someone -with some connection to this place. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:36 | |
-It might be a local or someone -who knows about this place. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:42 | |
-It's very rare that someone -leaves a body somewhere... | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
-..with no knowledge -of the area itself. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
-But when the news broke, -no-one came forward with a name. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
-The detectives were still in the -dark, unable to identify the body. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
-As detectives, -we have to find out who he was... | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-..in order to focus -on the victimology... | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
-..and work out -what happened to him and why. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
-Until we know who he was... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
-..it's hard to know -what happened to him. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
-The forensics' team found -a piece of clothing in the forest. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-Tests carried out on the fibres -were very revealing. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
-By examining the material... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
-..they've discovered -it was dark green in colour... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
-..and that it was a Pringle jumper. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
-By visiting -the Pringle company in Scotland... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
-..we've recently ascertained... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-..that the jumper itself -was produced between 2000 and 2004. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
-That's very good news for us... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
-..because we now know -that the body had been there... | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-..after the year 2000. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
-Detectives hope someone -will recognize the jumper. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-They're also awaiting DNA results... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
-..hoping to trace -the man's family members... | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
-..on the National Database. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
-Studies on the teeth -that were discovered.... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
-..have provided the police -with further clues. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
-Dr John Rosie is the dental expert -who examined the teeth. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
-There were -three teeth present in the jaws. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-Seven teeth -were recovered at the scene. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
-He'd not been dentally aware -in his younger life... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
-..and he'd lost all his 12 posterior -molars and one upper pre-molar. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
-So he went to great lengths to have -extensive dental treatment done... | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
-..of very high quality. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-That has formed the basis -of my dental examination. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
-The dentist claims the dental work -was done between 1980 and 2000. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
-The hope is that one dentist -somewhere in Britain... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-..will recognize his own work. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
-Hopefully there are sufficient teeth -there with sufficient evidence... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
-..to act as a calling card so that -somebody can identify this person. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
-North Wales Police -have launched a nationwide appeal... | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
-..hoping someone somewhere -knows the man... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
-..and can throw some light -on the mystery of Clocaenog Forest. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-We hope we can persevere... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
-..in order to bring closure... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
-..for a family somewhere. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-Our hope is to identify the body -left in Clocaenog. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-The investigation continues. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-Forensic experts and detectives -are still gathering evidence. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
-But it's possible that it will -continue to remain a mystery... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-..until detectives -discover the truth. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
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