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-In a murder case... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
-..it's a race against time -to find out what happened. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
-Where, why and who's responsible? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
-Tonight, the race to find two -killers who tried to evade capture. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
-The first fled after shooting -a farmer in Llanddewi Brefi. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
-The other was a schizophrenic -who killed a mother in the capital. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
-I hear how the culprit claimed to -be a character from a horror movie. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
-I knew he was dangerous. I knew it. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
-Soar y Mynydd... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
-..one of Wales' most famous -and remotest chapels. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
-But in January 1983... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
-..this rural community -was in mourning... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
-..when the chapel's treasurer -was murdered. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
-The previous night, many -of Llanddewi Brefi's residents... | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
-..were enjoying a pint -at the Foelallt Arms. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
-Among them was a bachelor... | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
-..who'd called in on his way home -from his sister's house. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
-At closing time, -John Hughes Williams... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
-..returned to Brynambor, -his isolated sheep farm. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
-The following morning, -when a local farmer called by... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
-..there was no sign of Williams. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
-He and another neighbour -began searching for him. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
-John was found in a bedroom -at the far end of the house. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:07 | |
-It was obvious that someone -had broken into the house... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
-..and come across John. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
-When neighbours -came to look for him... | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
-..they gained entry -and found his body in a bedroom. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
-John Williams -had been shot five times... | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
-..but no gun had been left -and no trace of the killer. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
-Everyone feels very sad about -what's happened to John Williams. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
-He was well liked. -I'm unaware of any enemies he had. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
-The story reached the village... | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
-..that he'd been shot -and it affected everyone. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-No-one knew what to say. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
-No-one believed it could happen -to someone like John. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-He was a decent man... | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
-..and a good friend. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
-As treasurer -of Soar y Mynydd Chapel... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
-..he was a pillar of the community. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-More than 1,000 mourners -paid their respects at his funeral. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
-He was a very sweet man. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-He was one of the happiest men -in Wales, by his own admission. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-He lived in what he called paradise. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
-Police found fingerprints -on a piece of paper at Brynambor. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
-They matched the fingerprints -of a former criminal. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
-Richard Anthony Gambrell. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
-He'd been to the farmhouse before. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-A crime was committed here -six years previously... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
-..in which a gun was stolen. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-The individual under suspicion... | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-..had a tendency to -return to places he'd been before. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
-Straightaway, -Gambrell became the prime suspect. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-Richard Anthony Gambrell -came from Hampshire. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-He found work in the area -as a shepherd in the late '70s. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
-He soon -came to the police's attention... | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-..when he stole a two-barrel shotgun -from Brynambor farm... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
-..and when he held two pensioners -hostage in Rhandirmwyn. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
-He came back time and time again. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
-I don't know why but he'd developed -a kind of obsession with the area. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-Armed police came to Llanddewi Brefi -to hunt for Gambrell. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
-If he was the culprit... | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
-..it was feared he might kill again. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
-As an 18-year-old young man... | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
-..Emyr Lake was among those -who helped in the manhunt. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
-It was feared that Gambrell -was loose on the mountain... | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-..in possession of a gun. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-People were in a panic. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-Police made regular calls -to every farm. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
-Residents had a secret code -to confirm everyone was safe. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
-Two policewomen phoned the farms... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-..every half an hour or hour. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-As long as everyone gave the code, -it was fine. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
-If there was no answer, armed -police were sent to the farms... | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
-..to make sure residents were safe -and everything was OK. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
-But the fear was too much -for some families on the mountain. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
-Many families have moved out -of their mountain homes. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
-12 farmers have left their homes -between Llanddewi and Rhandirmwyn. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
-Soon, it emerged -that Richard Anthony Gambrell... | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
-..had fled over the hills -to Llanwrtyd Wells. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-He'd been staying in a hotel -under a false name to evade capture. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
-Police found -his fingerprints there... | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
-..and in a nearby phone kiosk. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
-These fingerprints -were key to the investigation. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
-For decades, fingerprints -have been vital in crime detection. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
-I visited the -North Wales Police's laboratory... | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
-..to discover -how they analyse fingerprints. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
-We have items -recovered from crime scenes here. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
-We're going to treat them -with a chemical called Ninhydrin. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-It reacts with the amino acids... | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
-..from the fingerprints. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
-When we've examined -and marked up the fingerprints... | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-..we take photographs -to be used as evidence. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
-The next step is to put these items -in the oven for six minutes... | 0:07:22 | 0:07:28 | |
-..for them to develop in the heat. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
-The police's ability to collect -fingerprints has evolved. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
-Sophisticated techniques -are now used. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
-This is a superglue cabinet, -and with non-porous items... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
-..we put them in this cabinet... | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
-..and put superglue -in this small foil tray. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
-It heats up and the superglue -evaporates in the cabinet... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
-..and then it reacts -with the fingerprints... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
-..to create white fingerprints. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-This torch -was left at the crime scene... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-..so we want to see -if there are fingerprints on it. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
-We're checking the batteries for -fingerprints as well as the torch. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
-MACHINE BEEPS | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
-Here are the items. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
-These techniques weren't available -to Dyfed-Powys Police in the '80s. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:41 | |
-But the fingerprints... | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-..Gambrell left -at Brynambor and Llanwrtyd... | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
-..were enough -to lead detectives to the killer. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
-But they were too late. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-Gambrell had fled by train -from Llandrindod Wells to England. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
-In Hampshire, he contacted a former -schoolteacher to arrange a meeting. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
-But he, in turn, -phoned the police... | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
-..and Richard Anthony Gambrell -was arrested... | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
-..and transported back to Wales. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
-Gambrell pleaded -not guilty to the murder. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-He claimed he'd gone to Brynambor -to shelter, thinking it was empty... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
-..and shot John Williams -in self-defence. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-But the local residents -didn't believe him. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
-Outside the court in Lampeter, -a crowd of people... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
-..wanted justice -for John Williams and his family. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
-CROWD BOOS | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
-It was described as a lynch mob. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
-I don't think it was that -but it was the people's way... | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
-..of showing they were glad -that he'd been caught. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
-CROWD BOOS | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
-Richard Anthony Gambrell -was found guilty... | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
-..and sentenced to -a minimum of 20 years in prison. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-People still don't understand why -he killed John Williams that night. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
-Years later... | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
-..a curious detective visited him... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
-..in a Durham prison. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-What was it like, -visiting Gambrell in prison? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
-It was quite frightening. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
-When I walked in the room... | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
-..there were five wardens his side -of the table to keep him in line. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
-The first thing he said to me was, -"I know you." | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
-I'd escorted him -into custody back in '77. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-He'd promised -to tell John's sister... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-..the whereabouts -of the money and gun. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
-But he was completely unreasonable -and refused to co-operate. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
-According to John Lewis... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-..Gambrell has sent letters to -the area's residents from his cell. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
-Are you worried that Gambrell -might be released one day? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
-We've never recovered the gun, -which is a worry. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
-When he's released, -he might return to the gun. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
-Who knows if he'll come back? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
-It is a worry, but hopefully he'll -spend the rest of his life in jail. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:39 | |
-If Gambrell is ever released... | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
-..it's feared he may return -to seek revenge on the community. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
-For now, he remains behind bars. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
-The residents of Llanddewi-Brefi -and the Dyfed-Powys detectives... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
-..ensured justice for John Williams, -the amiable man from Brynambor. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:02 | |
-30 years later... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
-..another dangerous man fled -across the hills of South Wales. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
-A schizophrenic -with blood on his hands. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
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-Subtitles | 0:12:27 | 0:12:27 | |
-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
-Every case poses a -different challenge for detectives. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
-When a woman was murdered in 2010... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-..understanding the killer... | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
-..was a huge psychological challenge -for South Wales' detectives. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
-North Cardiff. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
-It was here, in the Thornhill area, -that Karen Welsh lived. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
-At 52, this mother of two... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-..spent most of her career -as a healthcare worker. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
-Karen was a nurse, -she worked at the CRI... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
-..in the haemodialysis unit. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
-She was dealing -with personal problems... | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-..and was being treated -at Whitchurch psychiatric hospital. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-Karen Welsh -suffered with depression. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
-One Monday morning in March... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
-..she failed to attend -her appointment at the hospital. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
-The following morning, -police went to her house... | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
-..and found her body. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
-She was lying in a pool of blood. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
-Her wrist had been slashed but -there was no knife beside her... | 0:14:12 | 0:14:18 | |
-..or any weapon that could've -inflicted that injury upon her. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
-Looking around the room... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-..there were spots of blood -on the skirting board. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-The house phone -had been pulled out of its socket. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
-There was blood on the door frame... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-..and on the handle -of the conservatory door... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
-..leading out to the garden. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
-It was obvious -a crime had been committed. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
-Karen had -also sustained a head injury... | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
-..and her wrists were bleeding. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
-Whilst making enquiries, police -were given the name of a man... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
-..she'd met at the hospital -during her treatment. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
-She'd met a man -by the name of Kevin Astley. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
-He'd changed his name -to John Constantine. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-He'd spent a fortnight -at Whitchurch Hospital back in 2009. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
-John Michael Constantine -was 33 years old. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
-He'd spent 12 days in hospital -for a psychiatric evaluation. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
-But after being diagnosed -with a personality disorder... | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-..he was discharged. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
-John Constantine was homeless... | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
-..after leaving Cardiff's YMCA. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
-He often slept here, -in the grounds of Castell Coch. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-He changed his name from -Kevin Astley to John Constantine... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
-..after Keanu Reeves' character -in the movie, Constantine. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
-Keanu Reeves' character -hears voices... | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
-..and thinks he can heal people -by touching them... | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
-..and influence people's lives. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
-A week before -her body was discovered... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
-..Karen Welsh told her daughter... | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
-..she'd offered Constantine -a room in her house. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
-He was just a very strange man. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
-I was frightened of him. -I found him intimidating. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
-I knew something bad -was going to happen. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
-It was to the point where -I was starting to upset her. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
-I remember the conversation ending. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-She said, "I've got to go -and have my dinner now." | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
-That was the last time -I ever spoke to her. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-During the manhunt... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
-..police questioned the family -about the fugitive. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
-They showed me a picture of John -and asked me if I knew who he was. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
-At the time, -we thought it was suicide. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
-The police came -to my auntie's house... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-..and said they were -launching a murder enquiry. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
-But John Constantine -had disappeared. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-Police were worried that there was -a very dangerous man on the run. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
-The next step was to find him -and discover his whereabouts. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
-We thought he was going -to do something to someone else. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
-It was vital that we found him. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
-He fled from Cardiff -on Karen's bike. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
-The police found the bike on the way -up to Caerphilly Mountain. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
-On the bike were a pair of gloves... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
-..and what looked like blood -on the frame. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-Scene-of-crime officers went there. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
-From doing an examination -of the bike... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-..we knew it was -Karen Welsh's blood on the bike. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-When we checked with the bank... | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
-..he'd used the cashpoint -in Caerphilly. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
-After that, -we didn't know where he was. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-John Constantine -was assigned a probation officer... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
-..after attacking a farmer in Usk. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
-The police -retrieved his mobile phone number. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-At first he didn't answer the calls. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
-Later, he replied via text message. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
-He was asking questions. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-He asked us -why we needed a statement. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
-In his eyes, murder was murder. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-He'd murdered her and he -explained how he'd killed her. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
-As the text messaging went on -for more than an hour... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
-..he handed himself in -at Newtown police station. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-It wasn't suicide at all. -He'd killed her. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-I broke down and I said, "It's him. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
-"I knew he was dangerous. -I knew it." | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
-And I was right. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
-At Cardiff Crown Court... | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
-..Constantine -denied murdering Karen Welsh... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
-..but pleaded guilty -to manslaughter... | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
-..by diminished responsibility. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
-Concerns were raised -about his original diagnosis... | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
-..at Whitchurch Hospital. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
-In court, the judge said that the -hospital's diagnosis was wrong... | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
-..and that the killing was linked -to an abnormality of mind. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
-The court accepted that he suffered -from paranoid schizophrenia. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
-He was sent to a maximum-security -hospital indefinitely. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-At first, -I wanted it to be murder. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
-He'd be locked away -for a life sentence... | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-..but I met him -and I knew he wasn't right. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-If I could tell it, surely -medical professionals could tell it. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-This way, at least he's -not just going to go to prison... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
-..and come out and still be unwell -and potentially hurt someone else. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
-He's going to get treatment. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
-A report into the case -confirmed that John Constantine... | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
-..was released -from Whitchurch Hospital... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
-..with no future plans to -evaluate him again or treat him. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
-There were calls -for better communication... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
-..between the probation service, -police and hospitals... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
-..and better care for people -with personality disorders. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
-Mistakes happen, -I understand that... | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
-..but it's important -they learn from them. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
-They need to -look at the recommendations... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
-..act on them... | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
-..and make sure -this doesn't happen again. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
-It was a very sad investigation. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
-Karen Welsh was a professional -and people thought a lot of her. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
-It's sad that she met someone -like John Constantine... | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
-..who manipulated her. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-This was a sad case for everyone. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
-For the detectives -and for the psychological experts... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
-..who came into contact -with Constantine. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-More than that, it was a devastating -loss for Karen Welsh's family. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
-It's horrendous. My mum did have -some problems, she wasn't well. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
-But she was -still the person I went to... | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
-..when something good or bad -happened, and now she's not there. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
-There are times -when it just hits you like a train. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-We're going to remain scarred as -a family for the rest of our lives. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
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