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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons.

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My mum went away and didn't come back.

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And when you do lose touch with your loved ones...

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I never saw Kathleen again.

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..finding them can take a lifetime...

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I wonder where he is, I wonder what he is doing.

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You don't really know where to begin.

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..especially when they could be anywhere, at home or abroad.

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And that is where the Family Finders come in.

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Hi, it is the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service.

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From international organisations...

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There has never been a day when we have never had new inquiries.

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..to genealogy detective agencies...

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When was it you last had contact with him?

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..and dedicated one-man bands...

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I like to do searches other people can't get,

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because it makes me feel good.

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..they hunt through history...

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to bring families back together again.

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"You're my biological dad."

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In this series, we follow the work of the Family Finders...

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This case came from our Australian colleagues.

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..learning the tricks they use

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to track missing relatives through time...

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I am 68 years of age, he is 75 years of age and we are just starting off.

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..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way.

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I said, "This is your younger sister."

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It is a miracle.

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I was struck speechless. And I couldn't stop crying.

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It's a proud moment for Dad.

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It was a start on finding my family.

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There are a wealth of agencies all over the UK that can help

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reunite estranged families.

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I don't just look for dead people

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but I also look for live people, trying to reunite relatives

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or friends who have lost contact with each other.

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But not everyone chooses to call in the experts.

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Plenty of people decide to turn family finder themselves.

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Nowadays you sit down at your computer, you go onto the screen,

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you click the mouse and hopefully

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the computer will do the searching for you.

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And that is exactly what 40-year-old Tracy has decided to do

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on behalf of her father, George Chapman.

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It was about eight months searching through all the files

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until we actually found what we thought was a family member.

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Throughout his tough upbringing in 1940s Northumberland,

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George believed he was an only child.

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Well, I was born in 1946.

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I moved to a place called Hartford Huts,

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which belonged to the council now,

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but they were Nissen huts, you know?

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They had no toilet, so you had to walk a quarter of a mile

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if you wanted your toilet.

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And we were there until I was nearly four, four years old.

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Then the council had built a new estate at Bedlington Station

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and that is when we all moved down to Bedlington Station.

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I had a couple of paper rounds, you know,

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to make a bit of pocket money

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and I used to come back in the morning and do my mum's

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breakfast because she had turned blind, you know, she couldn't cook.

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And then away to school, come back at dinner time,

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do a little sandwich or something for her, you know,

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because she was diabetic, so she hardly had food.

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Many a time I came in and she was in, like,

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what we call a diabetic coma.

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I had to try and get her out of it with plenty of sweet tea.

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My dad contracted TB.

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He was ill with that, so I had two ill parents for a long time.

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Hadn't any help from social services at all

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and I still had to go to school.

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But I coped, you know.

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With so many responsibilities at home,

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George was encouraged to go on a school trip when he was 15.

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My dad says, "Oh, just get away. You need a break and that," you know?

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And my mother was in hospital at this time, she had been

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took in two days before I went, but they told us to still go.

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So I went away and everything was all right

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and a week later I got a letter saying my mother had died.

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And she had been buried.

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And nobody had informed us, you know, till then.

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My dad and me just had to get on with our two selves

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until I started going out with Maureen.

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George and Maureen became engaged and got married not long after.

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Then, a few years later, George's dad also passed away.

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I was 22 when my dad died and I was going through a lot

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of papers, you know, as you do with your dad's stuff and that.

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And stuffed away in a little wallet, hidden away

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was this adoption certificate

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which I had never seen.

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So I looked at it and...

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..I couldn't believe what I saw.

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I am shocked, you know,

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at nobody telling me this, you know?

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George pleaded with his relatives for more information

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about his birth parents but was given nothing more than his mother's name.

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He went on to have a family of his own, but it wasn't until his

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daughter Tracy had grown up that he decided to open up about the past.

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This is how it started.

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I found this and I couldn't believe it

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when I saw the date that I had been adopted.

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With me being born on 4th May, it's...

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The whole thing was completed in 1946 on 31st May.

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-And that's it.

-Yeah.

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Armed with her dad's adoption papers, Tracy approached

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Northumberland social services, who gave her his birth certificate.

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And this crucial document gave them

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confirmation of George's original name.

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They give you the name of your mam,

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who was Purdy, formerly Foster, which was her maiden name.

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With this vital information, the next part of the search could begin.

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We went on a site on the internet and you could search through births,

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you could search through deaths, marriages.

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There was a census on there as well.

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I looked under the marriages from Mary Purdy

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and it came up saying that she had been married to George Clough.

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So then we put in Clough in the next ten years

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and it brought up Christine, Vera and Allan.

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Christine, Vera and Allan were also children

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of George's birth mother, Mary.

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At the very least, they were half-siblings to George

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and possibly even full siblings.

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And armed with these names, Tracy turned her attention to social media.

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Me and my niece Rebecca,

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we had the list of names and she contacted me and says,

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"Why don't you search through the social media site and see

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"if you can see if anybody is on there?"

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And when Tracy entered the name of George's brother, Allan Clough,

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she seemed to strike gold.

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I said straight away that he looked like my dad. I could see.

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The bit from the eyes and the...

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The nose and the eyes, I thought that was...

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They looked very similar.

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So I pretty much thought we hit on finding the right person.

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Tracy sent this Allan a message asking if he might be a relative.

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But they received no reply.

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I just thought, "Oh, they don't want to know. They have rejected it."

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But we knew that they hadn't read it.

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But Tracy kept saying, "Well, nobody has read it.

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-"They haven't read it..."

-Yeah.

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"..so it cannot have been rejected," you know?

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George's search had hit a dead end.

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Little did they know what was just around the corner.

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Since the early 1960s Britain's divorce rate has risen by 80%.

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And with families splitting up,

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many children get separated from one of their parents.

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That is what happened to Rebecca Taylor,

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who enlisted the help of the Salvation Army to try to track down

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her biological father.

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OK, and can I just take her name? Sorry.

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More often than not people can't provide the information

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that would be ideal,

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but we can still work with quite basic information.

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Rebecca's story begins in the Black Country in 1976.

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I was born in Walsall in the West Midlands.

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My mum was from Walsall and my dad was from Walsall

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and I grew up there.

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Rebecca has a few precious early memories of her father, Trevor.

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I remember seeing my dad when I was very little.

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I also remember him teaching me to ride a bike.

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At the age of three her parents split up,

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but Rebecca continued to see her dad.

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I used to see him every now and again.

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I remember he took me to a teddy bears' picnic in the park.

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We went to Alton Towers. He didn't live with us, but I got to see him.

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However, when Rebecca was ten, her mother remarried

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and the new family decided to start a fresh life in Devon.

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We moved from a semidetached house in Smethwick,

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which is not the nicest part of the world but that is where we lived,

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and we moved down south.

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And that was the last time Rebecca saw her dad.

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I stopped seeing my dad when we moved away.

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My dad was quite keen to see me but then my mum remarried again

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and they had my sister when I was ten years old.

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Even though she grew up far removed from her biological father

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and had just a few blurry photos of him,

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Rebecca was always determined to track him down.

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I always kind of said to myself, "I'm going to find my dad one day."

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You know, "I'm going to do it."

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She made several failed attempts to track down her father

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over the years, but it wasn't until she hit her late 30s

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that Rebecca took her search online.

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I put in my dad's name, where he was born and birthday

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and I came across an amazing story.

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Rebecca found an article relating to a Trevor Matthews.

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"To our brother on 20 February. Have a great day.

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"Love you, from sisters and families and Auntie Peggy."

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But with no knowledge of this Auntie Peggy,

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Rebecca couldn't be certain if she had the right man.

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When I opened the page up there was a photograph of him.

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I saw that and thought,

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"Wow, I actually think this is my dad."

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With a photo, date of birth and location,

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Rebecca would have had a fighting chance of finding Trevor by herself.

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But nervous about making first contact,

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she decided to place the search in the hands of the experts.

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The Salvation Army have a high rate of success

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when it comes to reuniting families.

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Rebecca had made a good start, but she couldn't be entirely sure

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that the man she had found was her father.

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Could the Family Tracing Unit solve the case and find their man?

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She contacted us in the first place

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by filling in one of our online inquiry forms.

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She provided us with her father's full name, date of birth

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and the last known area he was possibly known to be in.

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Rebecca was also able to send us a copy of her birth certificate,

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her parents' marriage certificate, which was able to help us

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with our searches.

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They had some basic information, but the Salvation Army now needed

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to track down Trevor Matthews' current whereabouts

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and then write to him asking if he'd like to reconnect with his daughter.

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And while this all took place, all Rebecca could do was wait.

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In Tyne and Wear, ten months have passed since George

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and his daughter Tracy sent a message on social media

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to the man they thought to be his brother Allan.

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Understandably, they had given up hope.

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But a mere ten miles away, his prayers have just been answered.

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I didn't go on for over a year

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and on 27 December...

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for some reason I decided to go on.

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And I realised I had a message and when I opened the message,

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it was from a Tracy Stephenson.

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She said her father had been doing his family tree.

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His mother was called Mary Purdy, nee Foster,

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who then married George Clough...

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..and asked if I was a relative.

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And when I'm seeing this, I thought, "God, I don't believe this,"

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because Mary and George were my mother and father.

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So I replied to Tracy's message telling her who I was

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and I'll give the telephone number out and...

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..George phoned me a couple of days later.

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I phoned up, I was shaking, I was phoning up,

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and funny enough the first words out of his mouth was,

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"Is that George?"

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He says, "I have been sitting here waiting all morning

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"hoping that you would phone us."

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And, oh, I think we spoke for about an hour.

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I wept, you know,

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that I had found some family.

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After 68 years, and knowing that you've got a brother

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and sisters, it's the best feeling in the world, you know.

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It felt great, you know, to know that I had a brother.

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And, like I say, it just felt as though I knew him for years.

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Allan and Christine had a loving but tough upbringing with their mum, who

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raised them by herself after their father died when Allan was just 11.

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And their mother kept George a secret from both of them all her life.

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I was 21 when she died and she never mentioned anything whatsoever.

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I just couldn't take it in and I just thought,

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"My mum's not my mum, not the person I knew."

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It was just a shock at first for me.

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Then Allan came down New Year's Day, specifically to make me

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talk to him, and I never regretted it from the day I did.

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It's Christine's birthday today and George and his new

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siblings are all coming together for a proper knees-up tonight.

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But there's another big event today, too.

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Allan and Christine had a sister, Vera, who died in her 20s.

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But there's also another sister, Thelma, who now lives in Australia.

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And today, Thelma's come all the way over to Northumberland to

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celebrate Christine's birthday and to meet George,

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the brother she never knew she had.

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When Christine rang to say we had a brother, I was so confused.

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-"Who is it?"

-Yeah.

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But when I've seen the picture of him, it was the image of Christine.

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Yeah, very excited when I see them. Yeah.

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I'm...

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I'm usually fairly calm, you know, but when I come to see

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the family, I do get a bit excited about it, you know?

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Just because I've never had anything like this.

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I've been an only one, you know, and I've always seen

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a lot of families, you know, when they're all together.

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And...

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And I've often said I wouldn't mind having a family, a brother

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and sisters, to share, you know. I think that would be lovely.

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And it's happened.

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I've got brothers and sisters and it's the best feeling in the world.

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I love it.

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George has met Allan and Christine already

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but this is the first time he'll get to know Thelma.

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-Hello.

-Hello, Christine.

-You all right?

-That's another one.

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After a tough childhood caring for sick parents

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-and believing he was an only child...

-What are you doing, then?

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Hello, Allan.

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..George now has not just a brother and sister who live ten miles away

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but also another sister from the other side of the world.

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-At long last!

-At long last!

-My brother, George.

-Yeah.

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-It's a long flight, isn't it? 23, is it?

-24.

-24?

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And then the rest and hanging around the airport.

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-Yeah, I think that's the worst part.

-Yeah, but it was worth it.

-It was.

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-It was worth it.

-Very well worth it.

-I'm pleased you've come over.

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-Yeah, so am I.

-Been looking forward to this for a long time.

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-Yeah, I have, too. Yeah.

-Yeah. Now I've got a new family.

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That's right, yeah. It's lovely.

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Just wish that I had met my mother, you know,

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-before she died, you know?

-She was young when she died.

-Yeah.

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-That's my mum.

-That's your mum, yeah?

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-That's Allan when he was little.

-She was great. Great sense of humour.

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She was strict, very strict, but fair. Very strict but fair.

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Shame it's taken all these years to find each other.

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-But we'll make up for it now.

-Oh, yes, yes.

-The best we can.

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We were shocked and then happy and then saddened

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-because it's taken all this time.

-It's taken all this time, that's it.

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But it's great.

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It's the best thing that's ever happened to me, you know.

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I've always said I wanted brothers or sisters...and sisters,

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-and I've got what I've asked for. Cannot ask for any more.

-Yeah.

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Sadly, the exact reasons why George was adopted remain a mystery.

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But having spent his whole life wishing he had siblings,

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George's dream has come true, and tonight,

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he gets to celebrate his sister's birthday with his new-found family.

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Just like to thank everyone for coming.

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I would like to thank George and family for looking and finding us.

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It was the best thing that ever happened and to tell him all his

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new family love him and his family, and I'm sure Allan will agree.

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Me and him are much closer now.

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And that's it.

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SHE LAUGHS

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CHEERING

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I was going to have a little party

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but my girls have decided I'm going to have a big party

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because I found my brother that I never knew I had,

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and it's the best thing that's ever happened.

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This is the first time the four of us

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have had a night out together and it's really good.

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-Nice to take back memories to Australia.

-Yeah.

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It's been a fabulous night

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and we're hoping you'll enjoy the rest of it.

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I did well.

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Christine's speech was lovely and I was very emotional when she made it.

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Um...

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I really got, you know...got the lump in my throat at the time.

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Well, it was nice just to get some lovely words and that

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about my family and that, and I appreciate what she said.

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It is better late than never.

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I mean, it all happened...

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Really got together in about 68 weeks, you know,

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and to be together like this is just fantastic, you know.

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Being accepted is the main thing for me, being accepted.

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I found them and I'll never let go.

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That's what I want and that's what I've got.

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In Berkshire, Rebecca had contacted the Salvation Army to help

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find her father, Trevor, after over 30 years apart.

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The Family Tracing Unit had made some inroads

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but Rebecca had heard nothing.

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The best place to start with a case like this one with

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the information we were provided with is the electoral roll.

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I was able to cross-reference the details, which meant

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I was able to narrow it down to possibly the right person.

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After an agonising wait, the Salvation Army had come up trumps.

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They were able to confirm that the man Rebecca had found online

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was her father, Trevor Matthews, and they were also able to

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confirm that he was happy to reconnect with her.

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I got a phone call two weeks after, roughly.

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And I thought to myself, "This is going to be an emotional moment."

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So I went into a meeting room, shut myself in there and she said,

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"I've got some fantastic news for you.

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"I'm really pleased to tell you that we found your dad and he's

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"over the moon that you've taken the effort and found, you know...

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"that he's in touch with you now." And I was in floods of tears.

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I was just so happy, emotional tears,

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after all these years, I'd actually finally found him

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and that, actually, he wanted me to find him.

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Naturally, Rebecca wasn't the only one the Salvation Army had

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got in touch with.

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When I received the letter saying one of my family would like to

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contact me, um...

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Well, my mind was doing overtime.

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I found Rebecca and I heard a voice and I thought,

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"I'm glad when I can meet you, you know,

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"really pleased to meet you, you know,

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"I just want to meet you."

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I thought, "Oh, it's my dad, it's my dad!"

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So that was quite a good memory, when I actually got to speak to him.

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He kept saying to me, "I can't actually believe this.

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"I keep having to pinch myself.

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"I can't believe this is actually happening,"

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because he didn't think he would actually ever see me again.

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Rebecca and Trevor were separated for 30 years.

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There's been a lot of water under the bridge

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and Trevor's only recently been able to share his version of events.

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It was so sad...

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..because I didn't want to leave Rebecca behind or anybody else,

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yeah.

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But, you know, due to circumstances beyond my control...

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..I decided I could, and that's what I'll always do.

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I don't know if that's any good but that's about the truth of it,

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you know.

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Back in contact, the pair are hoping they can make up for lost time.

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And that's exactly what they did when they first met.

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I went there for the weekend

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and I was supposed to see him on the Saturday.

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And he was so keen to see me that he phoned me up and said, "I think

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"you should come and meet us tonight. Why wait?"

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And I said, "I'm not ready for this yet!

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"This is such a big thing, I'm not ready. Let's just do it tomorrow."

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You know, seize the day and all that, just do it now.

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He's asking to see you.

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So we got ready and we went and met him at his local pub, got the

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taxi, and the taxi pulled up and he was waiting outside the pub already.

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I was, like, "I think that's my dad. I think that's him! There he is.

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"But is it him?"

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So we got out of the taxi and he said, "All right, Rebecca?"

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He was really over the moon

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and it was really good to speak to him again.

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As for Trevor, he's just pleased to get a second chance.

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I'll put back, you know, what I've missed out on.

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Yeah? And do my best to do it.

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Cos I'm determined

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and I'm glad to be back.

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As Arnold Schwarzenegger said, "I'll be back."

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TREVOR WHEEZES AND LAUGHS

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Rebecca and her daughter, Holly, now live in Berkshire.

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Today, they're making the 120-mile journey to Walsall,

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so Rebecca can take Holly to meet her grandad on home turf.

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Hello.

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-Hello, Holly. Nice to meet you.

-Are you all right?

-Yes, lovely.

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-Long time.

-Hello.

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-How are you?

-I've been good, how are you?

-Not too bad, thank you.

-Good.

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We've brought a present for you today, Grandad.

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We've brought you...some photos.

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Oh, thank you very much, that's absolutely...

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beautiful.

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The first picture was me as a baby, five months old.

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That's absolutely beautiful.

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You recognise?

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That's a lovely photo.

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That's me and my mum when I was born.

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That's me and Holly, when Holly was just a few months old.

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I shall treasure this. It's absolutely beautiful.

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And she's got the family red hair.

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-HOLLY LAUGHS

-Yeah.

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And then there's some from when I was young.

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I was in Zimbabwe there, in 1987.

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I was 11 years old there.

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-Thank you very much.

-That's fine.

-I'll give you a cuddle.

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OK.

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-Good girl.

-I hope you enjoy looking at them.

-I will do.

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-I've enjoyed putting those together.

-Yes.

-It's been nice.

-And you...

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-look after yourself, right?

-I will.

-Thank you.

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The great thing is, even though we don't know each other that well,

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I've honestly got that connection, because you're my dad.

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You can't replace that, I don't feel that way with other people,

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-you know? So...

-Well, you won't, will you?

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I'd love to have had you there when I got married to give me away and things like that.

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There's times like that that I...

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I really appreciate that, believe me, that you think like that, right?

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-Mm.

-But there is only one thing I want you to do, is be happy.

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-Yeah.

-And that's all I want in the world.

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Yeah, well... I'm happier now that I've got you.

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We writ a book, a part of the book, it's not finished yet, right?

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-Mm.

-But now we're moving on to this chapter,

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now you've found me,

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and this chapter in the book is the most interesting part of that book.

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-Mm.

-Let's leave it like that, yeah?

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'It's nice to actually show him,'

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instead of just telling him what's been going on.

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It's good that we've actually made the effort,

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she's made the effort to finally find him

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and now hopefully we'll be able to see him a lot more often.

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I'm over the moon.

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And I feel tremendous...

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that this, my own daughter searched after all these years,

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for us to come together

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and now I know we can build a future from here.

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This is the happiest thing that's happened to me in the last year

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and it's something that I will never forget.

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You know, it's something you can't recreate.

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Um...you know, I'm lucky to have the rest of my family around,

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but this was like the missing piece, if you like,

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so I'm really glad I've found my dad and now I can spend time with him

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and my two daughters can spend time with him, and if they have children,

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hopefully he'll be around to be there for his great-grandchildren.

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So, for me it's a great achievement, I'm really happy.

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