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Families can be driven apart for all manner of reasons. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
My mum went away and didn't come back. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
And when you do lose touch with your loved ones... | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
-I never saw Catherine again. -..finding them can take a lifetime. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
I wonder where he is, I wonder what he's doing. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
You don't really know where to begin. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Especially when they could be anywhere, at home or abroad, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:25 | |
and that's where the family finders come in. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Hi, it's the Salvation Army Family Tracing Service. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
From international organisations... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
There's never been a day when we've never had new enquiries. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
..to genealogy detective agencies... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
When is it you last had contact with him? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
..and dedicated one-man bands... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
I like to use searches that other people can't get, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
-because it makes me feel good. -..they hunt through history... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
to bring families back together again. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
You are my biological dad. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
In this series, we follow the work of the family finders... | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
This case came from our Australian colleagues. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
..learning the tricks they use | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
to track missing relatives through time... | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
I'm 68 years of age, she's 75 years of age and we're just starting off. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
..and meeting the people whose lives they change along the way. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
-I said, "Well, this is your younger sister." -It's a miracle. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
I was struck speechless and I couldn't stop crying. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
It's a proud moment for Dad. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
That was the start of finding my family. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Every year, thousands of people throughout the UK attempt to | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
trace long-lost relatives. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
This daunting quest is one the Salvation Army has provided | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
help with for over 130 years through its Family Tracing Service. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
Good afternoon. Family Tracing. How can I help? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
On average, we accept around about | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
2,000 enquiries a year from family members | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and, obviously, with every enquiry we take on, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
we want a positive result. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Recently, the Family Tracing Unit received an intriguing | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
enquiry from a woman in Huddersfield who hadn't seen her little | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
brother for over 30 years. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
We received an application from Mary, who explained | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
that she was looking for her younger half-brother, Leonard, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
and she believed that he was still living in London, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
where she last had contact with him. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Mary Kitchin lives in Huddersfield with her husband | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
and four children, but her story begins in 1960. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
I was born in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
At the age of three months, myself and my mum moved to London. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
London in the early '60s was a city on the brink of change. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Britain as a nation had put the Second World War | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
well and truly behind it, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
and the swinging '60s were just around the corner. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
The capital was at the epicentre of this social change and after finding | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
a job as a pub barmaid, Mary's mother was right at the heart of it. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
In 1963, no longer in a relationship with Mary's birth father, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
her mother met Jamaican-born Sidney Banton | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
and fell pregnant with Mary's baby brother, Lenny. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
I don't remember Mum being pregnant but, obviously, when she had him, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:17 | |
I was taken to the hospital to see him, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
so, obviously, I knew about him. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
After growing up with just her mother, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Mary now had a brother, but it turned out Sidney was married | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
and it wasn't long before his family came over from Jamaica to join him. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
At first, Mary and baby Lenny lived together with their own mother, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
but just a few months after his birth, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
she fell ill and both children moved in with Sidney and his family. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
I remember staying in the house with them | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
and all his other brothers, and he's got one sister, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
being part of the family | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
and then, obviously, Mum must have moved on then and so we lost, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
so, basically, I've been brought up as an only child, really. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
Ultimately, Lenny's birth father, Sidney, wanted to bring him up, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
so Mary and her mother moved back to West Yorkshire. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
All she had left to remind her of her brother was one precious photo. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
I had a photograph of myself and him that I've carried with me | 0:04:16 | 0:04:22 | |
wherever we've moved to. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
He's never been out of my thoughts. I've always thought about him. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
But Mary had a life to get on with. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
She made Huddersfield her home, and at 19, gave birth to a daughter. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
Still, the knowledge that Lenny was out there gnawed away at her, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
and having a baby of her own was the spur she needed to | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
go back and try and find him. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
1979, I went back down to London to sort of retrace my steps | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
of where I'd lived and everything. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
At that time, I'd got my eldest daughter, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
and me and her went down, and I did retrace steps. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
I did go to the house where he was living, I did see him, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
but I don't think that he knew I was his sister at that stage. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
Whether the teenage Lenny had no idea who she was, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
or simply did not want to know, either way, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
it was a severe blow for Mary, who returned to Huddersfield | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
not knowing if she would ever see her brother again. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
You get on with life, don't you? | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
I settled in Huddersfield, met my husband, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
had children and still here. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
I did want to contact him, but I don't know... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
Circumstances and having my own kids | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
and settling myself, sort of kept putting it off and putting it off. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
30 years passed, then Mary heard that her estranged father had died. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
It was the spur to action that she needed. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Lots of friends that I know had gone through bereavements | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
and things and I just thought, "You know what? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
"I ought to do something before I get too old to do something," | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
so I discussed it with my family. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
My husband was very wary, but I think that's | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
because he was looking out for me, but my daughter pushed me. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
She's like, "You've got to do it, Mum. You've got to do it." | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
My mum has always spoke about a brother. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
She's always mentioned him and I know that she's wanted to get in contact | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
with him for quite a long time. I've said to her as well, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
"You need to do it, because if you don't, you're never going to know." | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
I was frightened of rejection and I kept saying, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
"No, I'm not going to do it," and then she said, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
"Well, if you don't do it, you're never going to know." | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Determined to strike while the iron was hot, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Mary's daughter Elena contacted the Salvation Army. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
-Can you remember when I got the form? -I can, yes. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
-I were going to kill you! -Yeah. THEY LAUGH | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
-And I wouldn't fill it in straight away, would I? -No. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
-It took ages, didn't it? -I took ages to think about it. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Very apprehensive, very nervous, very frightened. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
A few days later, you said, "You know what? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
"We need to fill this form out," so we did. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
All I knew was his name, obviously my mum's name. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
I knew his dad's name. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
But the most important piece of information | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
required was a date of birth. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
I know from being small, I always knew his birthday was on 1st June. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
Every first of June, I've thought, "I wonder where he is. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
"I wonder what he's doing." | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
Mary knew the date, but she had no idea what year Lenny was born in, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:40 | |
so she decided to play detective. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
From a photograph that I've got, we've sort of estimated that he was | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
two, maybe three years younger, so we sort of put three years down. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
Mary handed the information to the experts, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
complete with three possible dates of birth. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
In all cases, it's really important to have as much | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
information as possible about the person that we're looking for. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
I didn't think for a minute actually that the Salvation Army would be | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
able to find him, because on my form | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
there was so little information, it was... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
I even said to my daughter, "There's no chance of finding | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
"anybody with little snippets of what I've got." | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
Mary may have thought it was scant information to go on, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
but for the family finders, it was the perfect starting point. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
With that information, we would take that and apply to the | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
General Register Office for birth certificates and ask them | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
to send us copies to establish which date of birth was the correct one. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
Once we had Leonard's birth information, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
we were able to find him pretty quickly. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
It turned out that Leonard wasn't living too far from where Mary | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
had last seen him and we were able to send him a letter straight away. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
The Salvation Army letter informs a lost relative a family member | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
would like to get in touch. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
The person can then decide how to respond. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
I received this letter and, to be honest, I didn't know how I felt. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
I didn't know if I was shocked, surprised, mortified, what, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
and I didn't know how to react. Like... | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
You know, so I didn't immediately reply to the letter. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:26 | |
I didn't know what to do. As well, I was scared as well. I don't know. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
I don't know how to explain it. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Lenny decided to proceed, but with caution. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
He called the office | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
and said that he would love to hear from his sister | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
and that he'd like initially to have a letter from her via our office. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
The letter forwarding service that we offer is something that is | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
taken up in quite a lot of cases and people sometimes are nervous | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
about being in touch with their relative after such a long time. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
It's a good way to break the ice without disclosing anything | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
personal like address or contact details. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
Mary had an agonising wait to discover the news. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
I didn't hear anything then for about four weeks | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
and then I got a letter. I had the letter here for about two hours. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
Nobody was at home. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
Everybody was out working and I was looking at this letter, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
"Shall I open it? Shan't I open it? Shall I open it?" | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
30 years after last setting eyes on her brother, the contents of this | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
letter would determine whether or not Mary would ever see Lenny again. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
So, I opened it and I said, "They found him! They found him!" | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
So, I set to that night and wrote just a few short lines | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
and enclosed the photo. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
Lenny may have asked for the letter, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
but its arrival was no less overwhelming for that. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
The emotions I had when I received the letter? | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
Everything - joy, sadness, shock, horror. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
I have to pinch myself sometimes to say, "Is this really happening?" | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
It's crazy. It's good, but it's crazy. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
But it was the photograph Mary had enclosed | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
which had the biggest impact. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
When Mary sent me the letter, she put a photograph of me | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
that I didn't even know existed | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
and then, that's when I looked at it and thought, "Wow! Who's this?" | 0:11:30 | 0:11:36 | |
It's me and Mary when we was kids. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Well, straight away, I had to photocopy it, blow it up. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
It's everywhere, it's on my laptop, it's on the wall, it's everywhere. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
Leonard's story begins with his father in 1963. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
When he first got here, he had to find lodgings | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
and that's where he met my birth mother. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
-That person was Mary's mother. -And obviously... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
two and two equals Lenny. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Soon after that, Sidney's wife and children arrived from Jamaica. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
When my dad had found his own place to live, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
he sent for my mum to come over with my brothers and sister. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
Lenny grew up with his dad's family in South London, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
-unaware of his true origins. -I just had a normal childhood. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:34 | |
You know, like, I didn't feel different, I didn't... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
look at myself and think, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
"I'm a duck. You lot are chickens," you know? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Then one year, his birth mother turned up on the doorstep. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
This woman came and knocked on the door. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
She stood, like, in the doorway and my mum was saying, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
turned around to me and said, "Say hello to your mother," | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
pointing to the woman in the doorway. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
So, I looked at my mother saying, "Hello, Mum." | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
And my mum was saying, "No, say hello to your mother." | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
So, I said, "Hello," to my mum again and my mum said, "No," | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
pointing at this woman in the doorway, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
and me being young, I said, "I don't know who this woman is," | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
and then as far as I can remember, I think | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
I ran off into the kitchen or into the garden and that was it, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
and that is the only recollection I've got of ever seeing this woman. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
I couldn't even describe her now, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
because I think, on purpose, I blanked everything out with her. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Lenny struggles to remember exactly how | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
he learned the truth about where he'd come from. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
I can't remember when it first came up or how it came up... | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
..but my mum explained about my birth mother. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
But he found it hard to cope with the revelation. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
I didn't want to know, because as far as I'm concerned, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
I'm with my mother, I've still got my mother today. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
So, I suppose, in a way, that's why I put it to the back of my mind | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
and just forgot all about it, and just got on with life. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Lenny has no memory of living with Mary as a tiny baby | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
and can only vaguely remember her visit to London in 1979. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
She was at the house and, you know, I wasn't rude to her, but... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
because I didn't know who she was, I just totally ignored her. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
It's only at a later date, I found out that she was my sister. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
But the past is now the past and tomorrow, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
brother and sister will be reunited | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
for the first time in their adult lives. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
It's been a lifetime since we've actually seen each other. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
You know, we are two strangers. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Do I hug her? Do I kiss her? Do I shake her hand? I don't know. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Baffles me, but I think, emotions are just going to take over. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
There's so much we've got to say to each other. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
In fact, there's that much, I don't know where to start... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
apart from saying sorry. That's the first thing, of course. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
If you're thinking of trying to trace a relative, living or dead, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
it's important to arm yourself with all the facts | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
before starting your search. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Spread the net as wide as you can, asking relatives for any photos, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
memories, anecdotes or documents they may have. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Make a note of any names, locations | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
or dates of key events such as births or marriages, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
and drawing up a timeline can also be a useful tool. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
The more work you put in at the outset, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
the better your chances of success. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
But if the thought of doing the work yourself is daunting, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
for anyone wishing to track down a loved one, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
there's been a boom in independent family finders willing to hope. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
One such authority is Derbyshire-based Charlie Watson. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
It's commonplace for people to want me to undertake enquiries | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
to try and find something special in the family. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
With years of experience in the family-finding business, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Charlie has dealt with all sorts of colourful cases. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
People like to find they've been transported to Australia, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
are crooks or murderers or who've run off with the family silver, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
or who have some sort of naughtiness around them. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
But Charlie doesn't just delve into his clients' past. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
He also helps them track down living relatives who | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
they may not have seen in years, if at all. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Many of my clients are actually in their later years, who have | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
suddenly taken an interest in trying to find out about their families, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
whether they are living or dead. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Recently, Charlie was contacted by a woman desperate to | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
track down her missing family and to finally unravel a long-standing | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
mystery surrounding exactly who she was and where she had come from. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
81-year-old Linda Wright is a retired musician who now | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
lives in North Yorkshire. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Born in 1934, she grew up in Southport, Merseyside. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
An only child, she was brought up by the couple | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
she assumed were her birth mother and father. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
When I was young, I went to a private day school | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
and it was very old-fashioned and, occasionally, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
we had air raids over the town, so we slept | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
every night in an Anderson shelter underneath the kitchen table. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
To try to blot out the air raids above, Linda remembers hiding | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
under the blankets and losing herself in the stories of the era. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Because it was wartime, we weren't allowed lights on and blackout, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
and I loved Peter Pan and Wendy. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Linda loved the novels so much that later in life, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
she ended up adding Wendy to her name. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I was Linda Margaret to start with, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
but I've added Wendy for some reason, because I liked it. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
But Linda's love of literature and the arts did not end there. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Music was her biggest passion | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
and she would spend many evenings glued to the family wireless. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
One night, we were listening to a lovely violinist, so I said, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
"I want to learn one of those." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
And on that Sunday and on Tuesday, I'd started. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
In three years, I was playing quite good concertos. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
I then got a scholarship to the Royal Manchester College of Music | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
and I went there for three years. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
Linda passed her musical studies with distinction | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
and went on to become a professional violinist. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
By this time, I had already met my husband-to-be, Cliff Wright. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
Linda and Cliff got married in 1954. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Then, later that year, he got a posting to a new | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
position as band leader to the Border Regiment based in Berlin. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
I was 20 and I'd never been abroad, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
and eventually I realised I hadn't got a passport | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
and I hadn't got any... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
..any piece of paper that said who I was, so I rang my dad up | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
and he came across with a... well, my marriage certificate, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
but then I said, "Well, haven't I got a birth certificate?" | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Linda's dad was initially unable to produce her birth certificate, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
and the possible implications began to dawn on her. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
I started to have a suspicion then and then he told me I was adopted. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
The news that her mum and dad weren't her birth parents was | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
shock enough for Linda, but when she pushed to know more, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
the details behind her adoption were hazy, to say the least. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
He'd told me that he'd gone to Barnardo's and chosen me | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
for my lovely smile. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
Hardly likely at one month old when you've got no teeth, is there? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
It was only years later, on the night of her father's funeral, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
that Linda's auntie, Iris, challenged this story. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
"What did your father tell you?" | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
"Oh," I said. "He told me he'd been to Barnardo's and picked me up | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
"for my big smile." And she said, "Oh, not that story again." | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
She said, "I'll tell you the real story." | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
This news came as a huge shock, because now Linda had | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
two conflicting stories about how she came to be adopted. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
In her Auntie Iris's version, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
Linda's music-loving adoptive parents had long wanted | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
a child of their own and not just any old child. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
They couldn't have any children and they were very musical | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
and loved opera and all sorts of things, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
and just wanted a musician and they heard about this child in Yorkshire. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
Their prayers were answered in the form of an unusual | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
news story in the local paper. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
An opera singer was putting her daughter up for adoption. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
"Young opera singer has unfortunate liaison," | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
and, of course, I was the result. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
So, they arranged to adopt me on the spot. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
As the years passed, Linda never stopped wondering about her mother | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
and, more importantly, whether there might be anyone else out there. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
I thought, "Wouldn't it be fantastic | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
"if I actually had some brothers and sisters?" | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
It was time to bring in expert help in the shape of genealogist | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
and family finder Charlie Watson. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
She had some stories that she was told by her adoptive parents, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
and it was clear when she was telling me some of these stories | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
that she had quite strong feelings about wanting to find, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
potentially, her birth mother and her siblings. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
What Linda had in her possession was an adoption order | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
and a birth certificate, which really isn't very much, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
but not entirely unexpected, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
because we're going back quite a few years now to the 1930s | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
and it's fairly commonplace to find very few documents that one can use. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
But armed with what little he had, Charlie set to work. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
The adoption order will give you the name of the court that made | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
the order, so it was necessary to write to the court to see whether | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
they had any records of adoption file relating to that particular adoption. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
Charlie's investigations unearthed a name for Linda's birth mother - | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Dorothy Turner. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:24 | |
Dorothy was no longer alive, but did she have any other children? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
I started to look for Linda's birth mother's parents, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
so that would be Linda's grandparents, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
and what I finally managed to do was evidence of their marriage | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
by looking online. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
By accessing scores of online records, Charlie managed | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
to get a clearer picture of Linda's history and family tree. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
That whole process took probably two to three months | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
and eventually resulted in my sending out four letters to people. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
These four letters were sent to potential close relatives of Linda. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
We had one positive response, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
and one positive response is pretty much all you need. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
One will do. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
Charlie's sleuthing had paid off. Linda did indeed have siblings, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
and 270 miles away in the Brecon Beacons, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
one of them, Bridget, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
was about to receive a phone call that would change her life. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
My remaining brother, Richard, called me up and said, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
"A genealogist has been in touch with me | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
"saying that there's a lady that would like to contact us, who's... | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
"who's our sister." | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Born 15 years after Linda, Bridget grew up with her birth parents | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
and two elder brothers. But while Linda spent her adult life | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
wondering whether she had any siblings, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Bridget and have brothers had been put in the picture much earlier. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
When my mother died in 1999, my father got us all together | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
and said, "I've got some news," | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
and told us that we had a sister, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
which was a shock, because we'd always been a three, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
and suddenly we were a four. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
It was a bit of a bombshell, I have to say, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
because you always think your parents are without reproach. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
I'd had a really settled childhood, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
they'd been together all their lives, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
they hadn't divorced or anything like that, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
and then we had a long discussion | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
as to whether we should try and find her or not. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
And in the end, we decided not. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
We probably took what was the easier way out, but we thought... | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
We just didn't know. I just thought | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
it would be better to leave things as they were, leave well alone. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
-Well, it was a joint decision. -Yeah, it was a joint decision. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Remarkably, just like the sister she'd never met, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Bridget has also spent her life steeped in music. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
I had a passion for music right from the start. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
I just have a musical brain, so when I was about four, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
we had an old piano which belonged to my grandmother, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
and my mother showed me the notes on the piano | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
and I just took it from there and taught myself, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
and eventually ended up going to music college. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Bridget and her partner, Brendan, run an opera company, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
an uncanny echo of the story Linda was told, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
that her mother was a young opera singer. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
I've spent all my life in opera. That's what I do and have done. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
Bridget and her brothers had decided to let sleeping dogs lie | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
and not go looking for Linda, until she came looking for them. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Suddenly we got this call saying, "There's a lady wants to find you," | 0:25:17 | 0:25:23 | |
so we couldn't really believe it. I went, "Oh, God!" at the time | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
And then, we just talked about it and I said, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
"Of course, we've got to meet her." | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Three months after his first meeting with Linda, Charlie contacted her | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
with the news she'd been desperately hoping to hear. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
"Bingo! I've found your family." I was excited, yes, of course I was. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:50 | |
I really have got a family. Oh, gosh! | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
The sisters have already met once briefly. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
Tomorrow, they'll be reunited again, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
with two whole lifetimes to catch up on. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
In London, Mary Kitchin | 0:26:08 | 0:26:09 | |
and her younger brother, Lenny, had been separated for over 30 years. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
Today, they will be reunited after being brought together | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
by the family finders at the Salvation Army. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
I can't wait to see him. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
I'm nervous, but I'm not frightened... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
He's not going to be a complete stranger to me. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
We've found each other, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
but I haven't spoken to him verbally as yet. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
So, obviously, I know he's a Cockney, but I don't know | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
if he'll understand me. Us Northerners, you know. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
The last time Mary made the journey to London to see Lenny, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
he was a teenager who barely acknowledged her. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
Today, she is hoping for a very different reception. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Very nervous but excited. A nice nervousness. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
-She's shaking, aren't you? Shaking. -Yeah, I am. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
-You don't need to be nervous. -I know. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
You'll be all right. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
Just weird... | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
being here and it's all going to happen. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Lenny's also on his way into Central London, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
where they've agreed to meet. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
And he's brought his partner Dana along for support. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
-How are you feeling, babe? -Scared, frightened... -Do you feel sick? -..apprehensive. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:34 | |
Yeah, very sick. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
But that's nerves. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
-You going to cry? -I don't know. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
I don't know. I don't think, because of the man thing, innit? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-I don't think I'll cry but... -It's a good thing, isn't it? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Yeah. Of course, it's all good. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
I've sent Mary a message saying, "How are you feeling?" | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
She's replied with, "OK. Can't wait." DANA LAUGHS | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Now it's coming closer, I'm not as nervous as I was... | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
-Really? -..funnily enough. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
Yeah, I'm a bit more calmer. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
-Are you feeling better? -No. -Is it getting worse? -Yeah. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:19 | |
Because we've hit London now. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Lenny is the first to arrive. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
And he faces an anxious wait. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
I can't believe how stressed out I am. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Sick... Terri... Oh. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
I bet she cries. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
-You'll cry. -I don't think... No, I'm a man. I won't cry. No. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
No. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
LENNY SOBS | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
Oh, stop. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
Found you at last. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
-Sorry. -No need to be. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
I can't... I can't... | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
I can't... | 0:29:49 | 0:29:50 | |
Oh... Dana. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
With a tearful Lenny lost for words, Mary decides to bring in | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
her daughters, his nieces, to help break the ice. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
Hello, are you all right? | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Hello. How are you? | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
All right. Oh, they're proper northerners. There we are. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
-You all right? Hiya. -They've chilled me out now. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
Without Elena in particular, none of this would ever have happened. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
-It's down to you, isn't it? It's all down to you. -It is. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
I just pushed her because she needed to do it. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
She wanted to do it for many, many years | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
and she's always talked about you. So...I was like, "Right..." | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
Yeah, everyone talks about me, don't they? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
Nothing bad, though, this is the thing. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
I was just like, "Right, that's it. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
"We're doing it, whether you like it or not." | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
She made me sit down and fill it all out. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
The bits that we could fill out, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
-because there was lots that were really sketchy. -Yeah. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
I wouldn't even know where to start. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
All I know is Mary, Yorkshire, that's all I would have known. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
I'm just glad that I found my little brother after all these years, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
and I can actually say, I've got a little brother. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
-Now you're not the youngest. -Yeah, I'm not the youngest any more. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
I just wish I'd done it a long time ago now. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
New beginnings, this. New beginnings. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
-New start. We've got a lot of catching up to do. -Oh, yeah. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
As soon as I saw her... | 0:31:36 | 0:31:37 | |
I was struck speechless | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
and I couldn't stop crying. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
For him to have that reaction when he met me, I think | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
was pure relief and gladness that he did actually meet me, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
so it was wonderful, it was a nice feeling. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
My mum is going to be a lot happier now because she didn't have that | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
sense of not knowing. She knows now | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
and she knows that Lenny feels the same way she feels. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
I feel like I've known him all my life. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
He's really easy to get on with. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
I'm just so pleased that it's all happened. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
Everything. It's like she's been there all my life | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
and this is the start of Lenny and Mary's family. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
I'm going to suggest that he comes up to Huddersfield | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
and we show him around and we're just going to be in touch loads. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
In Yorkshire, 81-year-old Linda Wright had been given up | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
for adoption, but was told that her birth mother was an opera singer, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
which makes sense, as Linda is very musical herself. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
Keen to discover more and desperate to know | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
if she had any other family out there, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Linda asked genealogist Charlie Watson to help | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
and he managed to track down her sister, Bridget, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
who remarkably is an opera singer. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
The two sisters have only met on one previous occasion. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
Today, Bridget is making the trip to Yorkshire to see Linda on home turf | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
for the very first time. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
It's fantastic to have people that actually are of the same bloodline. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:22 | |
I'm off to see Linda for the second time in my life, so there's lots to | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
catch up on and feels as though there's loads to talk about still. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
I've been alone all my life except for my husband and my two sons. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:37 | |
I never had any other family. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
When Linda was born, which is in 1934, times were very different. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:45 | |
Women becoming pregnant outside wedlock was very, very much frowned on, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
and they basically had three choices - | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
one was they could have an abortion, which would have been illegal | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
and carried a lot of consequences, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
they could marry the father of the child, if they knew the father and | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
if that marriage was wanted, or they could place the baby for adoption. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
It wasn't just her own reputation that a mother needed to | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
take into account when making this decision. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
It was important that they maintained their standing in the local community. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
We know Linda's birth mother came from a very small community | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
where she would have been known | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
and her parents would have been well-known, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
and almost impossible to hide | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
what would have been seen as an illegitimate birth. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
Adoption had only been made legal in Britain | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
eight years prior to Linda's birth. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
The First World War left Britain in a position where thousands of babies | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
had become orphaned because their fathers had died during the war. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
It put Britain in a position where they could no longer ignore | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
the vast numbers of children born to single mothers | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
and something had to be done. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
In response, the Adoption Act of 1926 was passed. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
The Adoption Act didn't really remove the stigma of unmarried | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
mothers and children being born out of wedlock, but it was starting | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
to provide an option for people who wanted to adopt a baby formally. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
Even after it was formalised, some mothers still | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
opted for the relative discretion of private arrangements. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
I've come across cases in the 1930s and early 1940s where people were | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
passed to other members of the family to look after. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
Adoption reached its peak towards the end of the swinging '60s. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
It was a time where there were double standards, if you like. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
There was still this shame of having a baby out of wedlock, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
but actually it was the swinging '60s, it was freedom, peace | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
and love and so, lots more babies were being born out of wedlock. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
But by 1968, the figures started to decline. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
Women had other options available to them. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
One such was being the Abortion Act which was brought in, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
which meant that there was actually a feasible alternative to | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
ending a pregnancy, and really, increased knowledge of | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
contraception meant that there were, maybe, less cases. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
Since the last part of the 20th century, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
adoptions have continued to fall due to increased | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
acceptance of single parenting and sex outside of marriage. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
In Yorkshire, Linda is now about to meet up with her sister, Bridget. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
Linda and Bridget have a lifetime to catch up on, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
and a whole host of unanswered questions to consider. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
Hello! | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
-Hello. -Hello, Linda. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:32 | |
-You've been left out here for ages. -We waited for ages! | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
-Hello, darling. -Hello. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:37 | |
Come and sit down. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
Bridget had brought along some photos of their mother, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
so Linda can finally get a sense of what she was really like. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
Have you seen that one? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
-That was Mum. -Really? -Yeah. -Oh. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
I don't know, I suppose she's in her early 40s there. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
-Hmm. -That's a younger one. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
-Probably when she's in her 20s. -Oh, that's nice, isn't it? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Yeah, that's nice. See, she looks like you. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
I feel as if I look like that sometimes. A sort of... | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
-You've got the same mouth, you see. -Yes, it is, it's the mouth. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
And the nose. We've both got that nose, yes. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
And Bridget has one more intriguing revelation for Linda. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
And you were going to be called Wendy. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Given that Linda has always been fascinated with | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Wendy from Peter Pan, the news that her mother wanted to give her | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
-that name is a remarkable coincidence. -You didn't know? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
No, no idea. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
-Well, this is the piece de resistance. -Yes. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
I think this is really lovely, yeah. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
Your big grin! | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
At school, I was always told off for talking too much | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
and laughing too much. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
-Oh, we're both the same, aren't we? -Exactly. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
And the similarities don't end there. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
Both sisters are musicians, and according to one story Linda | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
was told as a child, it's because their mother was an opera singer. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
I had from my aunt the story that my foster mother | 0:38:06 | 0:38:12 | |
and father, who were Vero and Irine, my father was a journalist. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
He was a journalist and he got me into all sorts of things. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
Fiddled it out. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
This may well be the story that Linda was told by her aunt, but her | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
father had told her a very different version of events, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
and this opera singer story is certainly news to Bridget, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
-who grew up with their mum. -It's a mystery. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
I mean, obviously, Mum, somewhere in there, is a very, very strong | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
musical connection, isn't there? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
Considering I've made my life in opera and music, so... | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
But what I remember of Mum is, bless her, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
that she smoked up to 60 a day for a long, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
long time in her life, coughed and I never heard her sing ever. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
So, who was their mother really, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
and what was the truth behind Linda's adoption? | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Linda and Bridget have arranged to meet with Charlie, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
the genealogist who has led this search, in the hope | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
he can get to the bottom of this mystery once and for all. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
-You must be Bridget. -That's right. -Very nice to meet you. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Very nice to meet you. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
What Charlie wants to deal with first is the Barnardo's story | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
that Linda had been told by her adoptive father. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
The adoption seems to have been a private one, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
because no agencies I've looked into have a record of it, or said they have a record of it, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
so I'm not sure whether Dr Barnardo's was ever a case in point. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
I don't think it happened. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
And then it was your adoptive mother's sister who said, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
actually, that's not true. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
That your adoptive parents had been working on this newspaper in London, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
seen this story about a young opera singer | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
-and had come north to arrange the adoption. -Yes. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
Now, unfortunately the paper no longer exists and there is no | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
archive of it. There's nothing in the British newspaper | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
archive for the News Chronicle, so we can't check the paper. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
-That's amazing, isn't it? -Yeah, simply doesn't exist. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
Charlie has done some more digging around this story | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
and may have made a breakthrough. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:10 | |
We had a look to see if we could find a Dorothy Turner | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
who was either on the stage, or involved in opera, in the Hull area | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
and we couldn't find anything, except there is a reference to | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
-a Dorothy Turner who was on stage in 1934, in a theatre, in Hull. -Right. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:30 | |
She kept it secret from me, then, in that case. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
This was the theatre - unfortunately, no longer exists. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
This rather fantastic building. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
I don't know, Charlie. It's beyond me. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
I mean, I never got an inkling at all. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
Well, we also found a cutting from the local paper of that cast list. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:52 | |
-I'm interested in your view of the middle picture there. -Oh, God. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:58 | |
Have you blew it up any bigger? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
-Being a true genealogist, I brought my trusty magnifying glass. -Oh, God. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
-Do you think that middle... -What, the one next door to Charlie Chaplin? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
-..that actress could be your mother? -God. The one with the long hair? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:18 | |
-Yes. -I don't think so. Doesn't look like the right shape face to me. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
Bridget's not sure, but Linda was adopted 15 years | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
before she was born, so it's possible | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
Bridget may not have full details of this period of her mother's life. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
How do you feel about all this? Here you are sitting next to your sister. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
I was just trying to find the secret, really, of what happened | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
-and I've wanted to find out where the music came from. -That's right. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
-Well, I'd like to know where the music came from! -Yes, the two of us. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
It seems that despite Charlie's detective work, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
the circumstances around Linda's adoption | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
and their mother's musical past are destined to remain a mystery. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
But these two sisters are still happy to be together. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
Just feel very privileged actually to be your sister. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
That's the best way I can put it. Quite honestly, it touched me. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-You daft bat! -I beg your pardon? We'll have a fight later on. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
However musical their mother really was, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
these two sisters are definitely singing from the same hymn sheet. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
You can't get away from it, there's a very sort of spooky | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
-connection that we are both very musical. -Very strong. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
And I think we're, fundamentally, a little bit, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
-we're quite unlike in a lot of ways. -Yes. A good sense of humour. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:37 | |
-We see the ridiculous very easily. -Yes, I think that's a saving grace. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
Absolutely, yes. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Linda and Bridget may have missed the chance to perform together | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
when they were young but today, they are bringing their musical | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
talents together for the very first time. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
-I think it's a shame really that I didn't do this earlier. -A hug! | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
Have a hug. A hug. I have to kneel down. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
Good lass. You're lovely. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 |