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You firmly believe life would be better 10,000 miles away | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
in a country you've never visited, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
but if your partner's dead set against the idea, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
how would you begin to change their mind? | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
In 2015, Hannah Gaj was hoping to convince husband Zameer | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
to follow her dream and move to Australia. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Today, one year on, we'll find out how and where they are now. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
Back in 2015, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Hannah Gaj was on a mission to persuade husband Zameer | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
life would be better on the other side of the world. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
She's crazy! Help! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Yeah? She wants to move me to Australia on a whim. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
A trial week down under saw her dream come alive. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
It's hot and sunny and I could definitely see myself living here. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
One year on, have the family made it to the other side of the world? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
It's kind of gone completely the opposite now. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
We now get told, "No, you're not moving." | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Laid out flat, Australia's coastline would stretch around the world. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
The country's 32 times larger than the UK | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
but with just a third of the population. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
With all that space, sunshine and plenty of work opportunities, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
it's no surprise the country remains the number-one destination | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
for British families seeking a new life overseas. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Hannah Gaj was firmly of the opinion a move to Australia | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
could dramatically improve her family's life. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Husband Zameer, however, didn't share the dream. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
A year ago, they faced a week down under, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
which would see Hannah's theory put to the test. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
When it was over, they had to make | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
the biggest decision of their lives - | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
whether to start a new life on the other side of the world | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
or stay put in the UK. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
One year ago, the family's trial week began | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
with 22 and a half hours in the air, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
flying from London to Brisbane via Dubai and Sydney. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Zameer had found the journey easy enough. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
It's not as bad as I expected. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
But he had mixed emotions about the week ahead. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
A little bit apprehensive but, yeah, very much excited. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
Having finally made it to Australia, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Hannah worried the country might let her down. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
I feel nervous that what I've read on the internet is not real. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
I've told Zameer what a wonderful life we can have over here | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
and tried to convince him that it's great | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
and that that's not going to transpire... | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
I hope that doesn't happen. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Hannah had just seven days to find out and persuade Zameer | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
the family's future lay on the other side of the world. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
In 2015, home for the Gaj family | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
was Kingston upon Thames, in Greater London. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Dad Zameer lived with mum Hannah and Noah, who was four. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
You find all the animals. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
I found tiger... | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
Zameer loved having London on his doorstep. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
I found the fish! | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
But Hannah had other ideas about where they should call home. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
She's crazy. Help! | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Yeah? She wants to move me to Australia. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
-On a whim. -It's not a whim. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
-It's a whim. -It's not a whim. -It's a whim. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Hannah had dreamt of a life down under ever since | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
her grandparents visited the country ten years earlier. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
They were, like, saying how amazing it was. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
That's kind of, that's the seed that was planted. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
When she qualified as a nurse in 2012, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Hannah hoped her profession would be her ticket to Australia, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
but the cost of bringing up Noah had forced her to stay put. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
Three years later, her dream was back with a vengeance | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
and Zameer knew she would stop at nothing to get her way. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
Hannah is very stubborn, and whenever she wants to do something, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
most of the time, she'll get her way. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
Trying to convince her of anything else is very difficult. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
Both Hannah and operations manager Zameer | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
worked shifts and often had just one day a month together with son Noah. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
Though never having been, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Hannah felt their lives could be transformed in Australia. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
I feel their kind of, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
their vibe and their culture is more of a work/life balance, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
it's more of a relaxed lifestyle. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
She also believed the country would offer them all | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
a more active way of life. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
It's cold in England and it's rainy a lot of the time, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
so you do spend a lot of time indoors. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
I think kind of being able to just get out the house in the sun | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
and just enjoying outdoor space, I think that would be beneficial. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Just one thing stood in Hannah's way, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
persuading Zameer to make the move. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
To leave London, such a spectacular place | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
with so much depth and history, it would take a lot of convincing. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Having instigated four house moves in five years, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Zameer feared Australia was just another of Hannah's moves | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
that could backfire. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
I think he thinks I get bored. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Before, we've just moved and it has been on a whim, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
whereas I've been planning this for so long, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
that it's something that I do really want to do. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
He also worried about leaving loved ones nearby. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I'm so lucky to have the friends that I do, and family. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
And to say goodbye to all of them would be really difficult. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
And he was wary about starting again on the other side of the world. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
The financial commitment and changing jobs... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
And if it went wrong, just trying to build our life again, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
I'm not prepared to take that gamble, at all. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
In a bid to convince him a move could be worth the upheaval, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
Hannah had spent hours researching Australia online. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
I do look on kind of property websites | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
to see what property we can get, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
kind of job websites, different schools. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
But her efforts had fallen on deaf ears. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Fair enough, Hannah's done a lot of research, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
but to actually commit to a place without ever experiencing it | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
is a completely foolish endeavour. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Hannah was determined not to give up, though. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
I feel like it may have to come to one of those situations | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
where I just say it enough and he'll eventually agree. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
That's her stubbornness coming through right there. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
Ahead of them lay a week to discover if Australia could be everything | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
Hannah hoped for, and persuade Zameer it was where they should be. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
For their trial week, the family visited Brisbane | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
on Australia's east coast. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
Home for the week was a three-bedroom house in West End, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
a cosmopolitan inner-city suburb. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
This way, shall we go in? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-Whoa. -It's amazing! | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
-Is it amazing? -SHE LAUGHS | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
This is really nice. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Outside, Zameer was equally impressed with the garden. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
This whole open-plan deck thing's lovely. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
-I told you. -I love it. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Kick it, this way. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
While Noah had an impromptu kick-about with Dad, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Hannah contemplated her Australian experience so far. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
My first impressions are it's hot and sunny. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I could definitely see myself living here. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Ultimately, though, she knew her dream would come to nothing | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
if the country failed to show Zameer proof | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
they'd have a better life down under. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
It has to be right, for me. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
And if that's not the case, I'm not going to make the move. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
End of story, basically it would be. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
In the UK, Zameer, Hannah and Noah | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
were living in a rented two-bedroom apartment in Kingston upon Thames. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
It's very convenient, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
we're ten minutes from the train station and the town centre, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
but it's not big enough for our needs. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
If Hannah got her way, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
the couple would be buying their first house in Australia. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
And she had some grand ideas when it came to her ideal home. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Four bedrooms, really big, fancy swimming pool. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
Huge open-plan, maybe two living rooms, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
one for a playroom, one as like a snug room. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Really modern, high ceilings, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
because I don't like these boxy new-builds. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Zameer's expectations were more humble. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-I just want enough space for all of us, that's it. -And light. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
The couple's budget was £350,000. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
To find out what that could buy them down under, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
we showed them three properties, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
two on budget and a third, which could be their dream home. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
The search began in Forest Lake, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
just over 11 miles from central Brisbane. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Did this four-bedroom cottage-style home | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
meet Hannah's high expectations? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
-Pretty garden. -It's lovely. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Regardless of the rain, it was a promising start. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
This is really nice. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
-A lot of space. -Ooh, I like that! | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
The spacious master bedroom with ensuite impressed everyone. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
-Wow! -Very nice. -Look how big it is. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
And the walk-in wardrobe was a hit with Hannah. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Oh! Oh, my God, I love it! | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
It had the open-plan living style she wanted. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-That's really nice. -Mummy! | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
And the kitchen wasn't short on space either. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Oh, look how much storage. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
-And outside... -Wow! -This is lovely. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
You'd just spend most of your time here. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
Wow, this is amazing. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-I'd buy it just for this. -Yeah! | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
But was it somewhere they could afford to buy | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
on their £350,000 budget? | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
I want to go for 475, what are you going for? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
I'm going for 500. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
-Are you ready? -Yeah, go ahead. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-What?! -No! | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
It was £67,000 under budget. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-That's nothing, really. -Can we buy it? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
That's more than achievable. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
Yeah, I mean, we could definitely hit that mark. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
The Gajs' property search was off to a solid start. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
For their next viewing, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
they moved to the popular inner-city suburb of Greenslopes. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Was this three-bedroom house | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
somewhere the family could see themselves living? | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
While Noah took a break, the couple moved inside to find out. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
This is lovely, Hannah, this has character. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
A lot of character as soon as you walk in. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
-Oh, wow. -This is a really nice space. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
This is really nice. And I love the stained-glass windows. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
It's really cute. It's like a snug area. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Boasting brand-new appliances, the kitchen worked for Zameer. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
-It's a nice-sized kitchen. -Yeah. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
It's open and it's lovely. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
It looked like he was slowly coming round to having an Aussie home, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
but fitting in could have been a problem. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Do you reckon you'd fit in that? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
-It's a good child's bath. -Yeah. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Smaller than the last place, the house had gone down well. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
This is what I imagined, like being able to open the doors | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
and just go straight into, like, the outside space. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
But, with £350,000 to spend, was it within the couple's reach? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
-Shall I turn it? -Yeah. -The big reveal. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
-Wow. -Ooh, 390. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
That was £40,000 over budget. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
It's a bit over our budget, but... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Well, no, it's, like, top of our budget. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
-400 is top, top. -Yeah. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
I'm happy with that. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
Refusing to let the price wash away her dream, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
the search was going in Hannah's favour so far. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
The final stop of the day was the coastal village of Sandgate. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Would this four-bedroom house meet the Gajs' expectations | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
-for an Aussie dream home? -Wow. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
OK, this is big. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
This is huge. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
Split over two floors, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
this bright modern house promised plenty of what Hannah fancied. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
This bathroom is you, definitely. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
I love the mirror. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
The funky furnishings in the open-plan living area | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
caught her eye too. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Oh, I could just spend all day looking at myself! | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
And the kitchen was a real showpiece. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
-This is very modern. -Wow, this is so nice. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
Very bold as well, with the black and white. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Hannah was sold, but what about Zameer? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
But I think it's a bit too garish. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
Staying dry, the couple admired the gardens from inside. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
That's really nice, looking onto the outside. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
And that pool just looks magnificent. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Upstairs, four double rooms, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
a home cinema and a huge master bedroom were a hit. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Wow. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
Hannah was blown away. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
-I love the bath. -I love it, too. -Do you? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
And a perfect little boys' room sealed that deal for Noah. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Wow. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
This is my room! | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
It was Hannah's perfect property, but was Zameer in agreement? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
-This is like Mummy's dream house. -This is... | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
This isn't really Daddy's dream house, is it? | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
It may not have been the property to persuade Zameer to move, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
but with £350,000 to spend, were they able to afford it? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
I really like it and I'll be really upset if it's expensive. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
467,000. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
-Aw! -It's cheaper than I thought it would be. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
It was £117,000 over budget. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-It's cheaper than I thought, but... -I thought it was that. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
-Did you? -Yeah. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
I'm happy that you can't have it, basically! | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
-Oh! But I really like it. -I don't. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Despite a disappointing end for Hannah, on the whole, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
the couple's day house-hunting had been promising. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
Property One had the pool and space Hannah wanted, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
and at £67,000 under budget, the price was a bonus. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
With its modern interiors, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:34 | |
Property Two seemed to charm both Hannah and Zameer, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
even with a bath on the petite side. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
And while the final property really was Hannah's ultimate home, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
the style wasn't quite to Zameer's taste and neither was the price. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
So, after everything they'd seen, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
did they choose property in the UK or Australia? | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
-Australia. -Yeah. -Thank you! | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
We're more likely to get a nicer place with the money we have | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
and have a nice size compared to the UK. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Yeah, definitely. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
Slowly, slowly, I can crack you. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Zameer's vote for Australia was a great start to Hannah's week, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
but she knew her victory would be short-lived | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
unless both she and Zameer | 0:15:31 | 0:15:32 | |
found the jobs to afford the Australian lifestyle she dreamt of. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
In the UK, the couple juggled shiftwork with looking after Noah. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
Having qualified as a nurse in 2012, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Hannah had spent the previous 18 months studying midwifery. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
It's been a very intense 18 months, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
but at no point did I doubt that being a midwife | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
was something that I wanted to do. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Could you repeat last on the teams in North, please? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
'Got 80 teams in North.' | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Zameer was an operational manager | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
responsible for deployment of security staff | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
at Heathrow Airport's Terminal 5. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Persuading him to leave his career behind wouldn't be easy. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
If we emigrated, I would really miss my job. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
I'd miss my job, I'd miss my colleagues, they're all fantastic. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
With Noah looked after by a childminder, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
the couple set out to explore work prospects down under. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
Hannah visited the Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
where she met with clinical midwife consultant Libby Ryan. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
-Hi, Hannah, I'm Libby. -BOTH: -Nice to meet you! | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
First up, a tour of the maternity facilities. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
So, this is one of our beautiful birth centre rooms. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
-It's lovely. -It is lovely. -It is a really, really nice room. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
It was an impressive set-up and Hannah was keen to see | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
if she could be part of it. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Hannah, I think you've got a very good chance | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
of getting a job in Australia. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
There's a shortage of midwives everywhere, so we would put you | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
in a role that you could go in all areas of care, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
-so you get a little bit of everything. -Yeah. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
It looked like it could be a case of right place, right time for Hannah. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
Across town, Zameer had gone to Brisbane International Airport | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
to meet site manager Paul Sharman. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
-How you doing? -Hi. -I'm Paul. -Nice to me you, Paul. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-Go and have a look around? -Yes, I would love to, cheers. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Paul advised Zameer he'd have to complete a week-long course | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
to work in airport security in Australia. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
And after checking out the equipment, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Zameer was keen to find out if there might be an opening for him here. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
Look, we're always recruiting screeners | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
and that may be your best option, to do a short while of doing that. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-Yeah. -To get to know how we do things out in Australia. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Having allocated security staff for Britain's biggest terminal, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
becoming a screener would have been a step back for Zameer. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Back at the hospital, Hannah was keen to find out | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
if being a midwife in Australia | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
would facilitate the family time she so badly wanted. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
Rosters are usually family-friendly. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
Antenatal clinic's good when you have little people | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
because it's daytime hours. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
But then you've got shiftwork all over the place | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
if you're in the ward or birth suite. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
So many options at this hospital. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
-Yeah, it sounds really good. Really encouraging. -Yeah. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
What kind of salary would I expect as a newly qualified midwife? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
Our starting is 62,000 Australian and that's with no shiftwork. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
Just under £30,000 was around £4,000 more | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
than Hannah's basic salary in the UK | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
and she could earn more with experience. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Some of our midwives are earning up 100,000 a year. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
-Wow! That's nice. -Yes! | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-I like that answer. -Yes, it's good. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
It was a great result for Hannah. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Back at the airport, Zameer was finding out | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
about his potential working hours. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
For a screening officer, it's basically you work 24 hours. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Some of the shifts, we've got four-hour shifts, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
some of them are 12-hour shifts. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
It just depends what your particular job is on that day. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
With similar hours to home | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
and a screeners basic salary set at around £25,000, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
Zameer would have been worse off working down under. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
But Paul assured him he could quickly work up | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
to a shift supervisor role. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
They're probably looking around 60,000-65,000 | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
and they do four days on, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
four days off, on a 12-hour shift pattern. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
That sounds good. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Around £30,000 was much better news | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
and the shift pattern could give Zameer time with the family. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
So, how did their findings impact on Hannah's dream? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Has the couple voted on work in Australia versus the UK? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
-Aust... Oh, God! -UK. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
Why? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
It's just basically because I know | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
I'm comfortable with my job in the UK. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-That's such rubbish! -That's why. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
It's a draw at the minute. No? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
-No. -Oh. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Zameer's reluctance to leave the job he loved | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
was a real setback for Hannah. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
But would a taste of the Aussie lifestyle help persuade him | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
a professional sacrifice could be a price worth paying? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
The family spent the day exploring Brisbane's South Bank. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Covering 17 hectares, it's home to lush gardens, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
cafes and river views. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
And for once, the sun was shining. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
-Wow, that's so cool! -Yeah, look at it. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
-Look at all the sand castles you can build. -Lovely. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
With its man-made beach, South Bank's a magnet for families | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
and Noah couldn't wait to dive right in. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
-It's freezing! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Do paddle, paddle. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
It's somewhere Hannah could picture spending more time. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
This is definitely the environment I'd like for Noah, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
he loves the water. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
And she was confident the chance to spend time with his son | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-was winning over Zameer. -Three! | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
This could possibly persuade him to come here, to do this more often. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
A turn in temperature meant she was right. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
I could get used to this lifestyle, it's really good. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Just having this contrasting weather where you had all that rain | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
and now we've got just heat, it's amazing. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-Say cheese. -Cheese! | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Noah had loved spending quality time with both Mum and Dad. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
What's been your favourite part of the day, Noah? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-Erm, picnic. -That's nice. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
We could do this all the time if we lived here. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
It had been a perfect day out | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
and it looked like being a turning point for Zameer. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
There's just so many things here that you think, "Wow," you know. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
And it just seems to be shaking my foundations a bit. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
But at the same time, thoughts of what he'd be leaving back home | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
were playing on his mind. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
To be without my friends and family would be very difficult. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
It's not going to be the same if I move out here | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
and that's my biggest fear. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Zameer was torn. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:57 | |
For now, though, had the lifestyle done enough | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
to secure another vote for Australia? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
-Australia. -Australia. -Australia! | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Can't knock it, it's been amazing. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
It's been such a carefree day. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
It just feels so relaxed. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
I agree with you, I think it's such an easy thing to do. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-Do you agree? -Yeah. -Good. All agreed. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Despite Zameer's concerns about leaving loved ones, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
the Australian lifestyle had proved enough | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
to put Hannah's dream back on track. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
But with Zameer facing a potential pay cut, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
she knew she'd be back to square one if she couldn't convince him | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
the move wouldn't lead to financial ruin. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
While Noah played, Hannah and Zameer prepared to work out | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
how figures in Australia compared with the UK. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Is this the thing that sends you hurtling down to earth? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
First up was the weekly shop. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Strawberry jam... Aw, it's 20p cheaper! | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Bolognese sauce, 104. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
Ooh, that's cheaper as well. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
That's good, I like that. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
Comes to... | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
144.06. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
Yeah, it's not bad. 51p difference. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
51p more expensive in Australia. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
-That's nothing. -Yeah, we could manage. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
Next, the bigger monthly bills. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Basing their figures on the second property they'd viewed... | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
The mortgage in Australia will be... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
1,770. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
That's a lot. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Which is what I'm worried about with your wage. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Things like this being more expensive. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
But totting up all the other outgoings, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
things look better than expected. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
So, 3,507. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
3,507.17. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Which is cheaper. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
Even with a high mortgage payment, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
it looked like they'd spend almost £65 less in Australia every month. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
I like that. I'm very pleased with that. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
And things continued to look good | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
when Hannah factored in her potential earnings. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
So, the difference in your income would be 745. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:33 | |
-I particularly enjoyed that part. -Oh, look... | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Zameer's salary difference wasn't so positive, though. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
-So, you're minus... -217.62. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
In the UK, the couple spent £272 more than they'd earned every month | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
but the final sums in Australia showed they'd have money left over. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Then we're £592 better off living in Australia. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
I knew I was right! | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
I'm rarely wrong. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:00 | |
Better off. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
We can have a little smiley face. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
And a yay. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
There you go. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
So, when it came to finances, did Zameer vote UK or Australia? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
-Australia. -Australia. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Yes! | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
-Are you happy? -Yeah. I'm happy. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Yeah, you can't really... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
I don't know, I'm trying to think of ways I could say no | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
but, yeah, it's not happening. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
No. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:44 | |
It looked as though Hannah's dream was well within reach, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
but she was all too aware | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
family ties could still prove the ultimate stumbling block for Zameer. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
So, Noah, we're going to watch a video of all the family | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
back home in the UK, OK? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Ready? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
-BOTH: -Hi, Zameer, Hannah and Noah. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
-BOTH: -Hi, Zameer, Hannah and Noah. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
I can't imagine them being so far away, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
they're a great team and they've bonded and they've grown | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
in the last four and a half years | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
since Noah's born and I'm really proud of them. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Zameer may not know it but he should | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
know that I actually care about him, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
and he's like, he used to be my favourite sibling at one point. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Used to. You see that? Past tense. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
'Noah's the only great grandchild.' | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
It was always a bit of a joke with Hannah, to say, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
"When are you going to make me a great-grandma, Hannah?" | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
And she did and now he's four and a half, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:52 | |
it's just magic, having him around. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Noah is very close to me | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
and whenever he sees me, he just jumps up and hugs me. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
I'm going to miss all that when Noah moves. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
It's something that is going to take me a long time to get used to. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
I think they're going to have to move out of London. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
I think Australia could be a good option for them. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
You know, I think she sees Australia as quite an opportunity | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
and so she should at their age. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
If they decide that their quality of life is better there than here, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
the three of them, then they should go there. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
I would not like them to go to Australia, that's my final answer. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
And not... | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Because Noah means a lot to me. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
The distance is just too far. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Even living in London, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
not seeing him for a few weeks, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
you think, "He's going to forget me." | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Or he's not going to love me as much as everybody else. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
'We love him so much!' | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
Even if I'm not happy about it, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
at the end of the day, it's your life. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
So, you think about it and make the decision accordingly. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
I think you need to do what's best for you. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
I will always keep in touch, I will always visit, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
I will always love you and you know that and I'm at the end of the phone | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
no matter where you are in the world. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
You do what's best for you and I'll still be there. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
How do you feel watching that? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
The gist I got was that... | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
..everyone's going to miss Noah... | 0:28:19 | 0:28:20 | |
and maybe Hannah and Zameer! | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Isn't it? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:24 | |
And it's always upsetting and I knew my family are kind of | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
resistant to us coming out here anyway. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
It's a bit like, "We don't want you to go | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
"but we kind of know you're going to go, so we'll support you." | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
To be removed and... | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Being a gamble whether I see them or not, it's going to be a big deal. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Messages from home had been a reminder | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
of what the couple stood to lose if they made the move. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
As the final vote approached, would Zameer's doubts | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
be enough to ground Hannah's flight of fancy once and for all? | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
Her first taste of Australia had reinforced Hannah's vision | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
of a better future for her family down under. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Everything that I've seen this week | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
has just kind of solidified everything that I thought | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
for the past couple of years. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
Abracadabra! | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
Despite his initial opposition, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
the week had shown Zameer plenty of potential. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Australia's been fantastic. I can't really knock it. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Australia just comes up trumps on most things, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
so it's hard to argue against. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
But despite everything it offered, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
he was struggling with the thought of leaving loved ones at home. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
I'd miss my family a lot. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
It'd take its toll on me. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
It would be heartbreaking for me. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
And Hannah feared his concerns would put paid to her dream. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
I just get that underlying feeling that he's just not going to do it. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
So, had the family's trial week done enough | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
to secure Hannah the future she'd wanted for so long? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
-BOTH: -Australia. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
-For sure, for sure? -For sure, for sure. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
That was two for sures, so that must be definite. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
Yeah, I just completely lost that battle. Isn't it, Noah? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
I've accomplished what I set out to achieve. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
So, I'm happy of that. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Despite his resistance and practical concerns, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Zameer's vote for Australia meant Hannah had triumphed yet again | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
and she was delighted at the prospect of more family time | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
together in the sunshine. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
We caught up with them one year on to find out what happened next. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
It's September 2016 and the Gaj family have moved to... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
Buckinghamshire in the UK, but hopefully not for too much longer. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:57 | |
Since we last saw them, they've gone from being a family of three | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
to a family of four. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Oh, well, it was nice while it lasted. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
The baby is called Faris, which is a Muslim name. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Zameer chose it. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
He wanted that name for Noah so I agreed that I named Noah, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
he named this baby. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
Hannah and Zameer are delighted with the new addition to the family. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
He's kind of docile, which we really need | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
because Noah's so energetic. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
-I can make him smile. -Go on, then. -OK! | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
It took a while for Noah to get used to the idea, though. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
He's smiling! He's smiling! | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
In the beginning, he was very upset | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
that he was no longer the only child. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
He wasn't too impressed that someone else was taking all the attention, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
but now he's very good with him. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
I love him and I'm the older brother. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
Having baby Faris hasn't changed Hannah's focus on a move down under. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
Yeah, do you think you'd be able to adapt to the heat? | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
It'd take you long, man, trust me. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
We had one hot day in August and we were losing our minds. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
They have air-conditioning in their houses. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
Yeah, I mean, they're built for it. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
The trial week had been everything she'd hoped for. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
It was nice to know that everything I had researched and been looking at | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
for years was actually true. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
It had opened Zameer's eyes to the kind of future | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
Australia could offer. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:23 | |
I'll be fine, I'll get a nice tan. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
-Hmm. What, a red one? -Not with factor 50, I tan quite well. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
'All my arguments seemed to be nullified within a couple of days.' | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
I could see myself living there, I'm convinced that could be a reality. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
And Noah could also see the attractions of Aussie living. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
I liked Australia because I liked | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
the beach and the swimming pools. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
All he could talk about was Australia, he still does, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
that's all he talks about. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
So, where's Australia on the map? | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Yeah, and where were we? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
We were there. Somewhere in Queensland. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
I think he loved how much we hung out as a family, so... | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
Zameer's vote for Oz at the end of the week | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
was a huge relief for Hannah. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
I was never too sure how he was really feeling about it | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
till the end, but when he did vote for Australia, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
it made it easier because we were going to go anyway. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
-So, at least he's happy about it. -HE LAUGHS | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
But arriving back in the UK, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
she was concerned Zameer might still change his mind. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
I did feel that maybe he got caught up in all the emotion of it | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
while we were out there and maybe when we got back home, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
the reality would dawn on him and he'd decide actually | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
it's not what he wanted. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
I was sold but still a bit apprehensive. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
Leaving nothing to chance, Hannah got the ball rolling straightaway. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
-The crocodile show? -Yeah. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
The one we saw at the zoo. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
'Pretty much the next day, I was booking for my skills assessments,' | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
looking at more stuff about Australia, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
looking at the property apps I have on my phone, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
just to kind of keep that going. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
You were relentless, weren't you? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
-Faris! Mummy! -You're going to show Mum...? | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
The family moved in with Hannah's grandparents to save money | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
and when word came through | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
their initial visa application had been approved, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Hannah took matters into her own hands. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
I applied and paid for the visas. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Having spent over £3,000 without consulting Zameer, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
she was nervous about breaking the news. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Next thing you know, I get a text with a picture of her receipt | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
for paying for the visas. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
Yeah, which didn't go down that well. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
I was pretty mad at that point and I've been mad for a long time | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
because I thought she made that decision without my input. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
He wasn't very happy, he was quite angry | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
and he definitely didn't talk to me for a good while. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
I made it quite clear how upset I was at this decision | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
and I pretty much carried that through | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
till the end of the pregnancy. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
But Hannah was convinced she had made the right move. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
I know that their rules and regulations change all the time | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
and I just didn't want to miss that opportunity. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
Score! | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
Shortly after the couple arrived back from the trial week, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Zameer's parents made the shock announcement | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
they were moving to America. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
It happened very quickly. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:36 | |
They announced it and then, I think a week later, they actually went. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
So, that was kind of a big shock for everybody. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
Didn't give anybody time to actually process what was going on, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
so I'm a bit disappointed that they went, to be honest, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
and a bit upset that they left in such a manner. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Noah's found the separation hard to come to terms with. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
Because Grandad and Grandma are in America... | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
..I miss them very much. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
And he can't quite comprehend why we can't go and see them. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
I think he finds that quite upsetting. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
So, I suppose that's kind of, in a way, preparing him | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
for what it's like when we move. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
When we do go to Australia, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
I think I will give people the appropriate amount of time | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
to actually process the information | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
and come to terms with it because that's very important. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
Their departure gave Hannah food for thought. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
It has made me reflect and feel bad that I'm taking Noah away | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
from kind of my side of the family as well, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
especially when he's lost Zameer's side of the family. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
Yeah. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:49 | |
Still the couple ploughed ahead with plans to move | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
but things ground to a halt | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
when Hannah fell ill during her pregnancy. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
It literally put everything on hold. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
She suffered from, like, an almost debilitating condition. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
You were in bed for almost three months because of the pregnancy, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
so that was very difficult to deal with. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
Everything was up in the air at that point in time. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Suffering from a rare disorder, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
Hannah was forced to spend months in hospital. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
The family really came through and helped us out. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
Realising how dependent they were on family, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
Zameer began to have doubts about a move. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
It was a scary thought that because of how sick she was, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
how hopeless we were at that point... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
I was very negative about Australia in that time period. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
A very scary time. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
Fortunately, Hannah's health gradually improved, though, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
and deciding they needed a place of their own, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
the couple decided to make one final move in the UK. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
'Moving into our own house a couple of weeks' | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
before the baby was born was a bit stressful. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
Things didn't turn out as we planned and the baby came | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
a week early, so we still had loads of unpacking to do. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
Home for now is this rented three-bedroom terraced house | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
in Buckinghamshire. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
We're in a village, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
which is quite different to where we were living in Kingston. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
It's very quiet. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
The area of here is really nice and picturesque, but it is quite... | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
-It's too quiet. -Mm-hm. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
It does have some advantages, though. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
It's a big change from London. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
It's been a good trade-off for the kids. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Definitely having a lot bigger living room, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
not only for Noah's toys, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
but now we've got another one and they're both boys, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
for them to run around. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:43 | |
Never be tidy again. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
-Mm! -He agrees. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
-Little brother. -Little brother. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Baby Faris's arrival has left the Gajs' loved ones less enthusiastic | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
about their plans to move down under. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
Everyone was very positive in their messages | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
whilst we were in Australia. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
When I broke that news to them, it's kind of gone | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
-completely the opposite now, hasn't it? -Yeah. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
We now get told, "No, you're not moving." | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
The thought of being on opposite sides of the globe | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
from her grandchildren | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
is something Hannah's mum can barely contemplate. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
-He's always happy when you pick him up. -He loves me, don't you? | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
At the time, I was, "If that's what they want to do, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
"fully support them," and I've changed my mind. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
I don't think it crossed their mind | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
that it would actually become a reality, so I don't... | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
I think they thought this would be it, they're having another baby, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
they'll definitely stay here. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
She's taking my grandchildren away from me. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
I think the benefits of being around their grandparents | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
and other family members outweigh the benefits of going to Australia. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
You can't replace us, Hannah, and we can't replace you. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Ready, and... | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
Oh, shame! | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
However, for Hannah, the sadness of leaving her mother behind | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
is outweighed by the brighter future | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
she believes Australia offers her children. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
No! He snatched it off me and I got it first! | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
'We're kind of more of a family unit now, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
'we've kind of expanded and just to want that lifestyle for them' | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
and the opportunities in Australia for them. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
'So, now that the baby's born, we can start focusing on that again.' | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
But when they will actually make the move has still to be decided. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
Yay! I'm winning. Ah! | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
I have no specific timeline on when to go to Australia, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
even if it takes a couple of years. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
I wouldn't say a couple of years, I think that's too long! | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Hannah is itching to go as soon as possible. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
I've had all my midwifery skills assessed and approved | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
by the board in Australia. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
We've paid for our visas and we just need to do the medicals, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
basically, to finalise it and then we can start looking for jobs, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
which may take a couple of months, six months. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
I'm hoping this time next year, that we will be out in Australia. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
Hannah has these ideas that we'll move out as soon as possible, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
but I don't think it's fair to everyone else. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
If we're going to do this move, we do it correctly | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
and we plan things properly and we make sure | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
that it's as stress-free as possible. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
Hannah's clear on how she sees life shaping up | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
on the other side of the world. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
To have a nice house, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
to have a good work-life balance, full of lots of family activities. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:43 | |
But Zameer's still erring on the cautious side. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
The move to Australia I find exciting but scary. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
And getting over that two-year period where you're homesick, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
that's what is going to be quite tricky. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
But I am very excited. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
Whatever the timeframe, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
there's no doubt that the family are destined for down under. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Yeah, I think my family's future does lie in Australia. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
I think there's a lot more options for the kids | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
and there's a lot more life to experience there | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
than there is over here, I think. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
So, in ten years' time, if I'm in the pool | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
and I've got meat on the barbecue, I'll be happy. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
I've spent too many years thinking about this | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
to not go through with it. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
Yeah. It kind of has to happen. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
It's been a very big year for the Gaj family | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
and although not quite there yet, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
their sights are still firmly set on Australia. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
We wish Zameer, Hannah, Noah and baby Faris | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
the happiest of times together when they finally make it down under. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 |