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Hello and welcome to Wanted Down Under, the show that catapults a British family right across

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to the other side of the world

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to help them make the biggest decision of their life.

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Gareth and Carol Lloyd have been thinking hard

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about moving their family to New Zealand, although they've never been.

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Things got tough when dad Gareth was made redundant.

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The first couple of days, it was frightening. What are we going to do? How are we to survive?

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Losing my job was a big factor in the idea of moving to New Zealand.

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But they have close family who'd be devastated if they decide to emigrate.

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Sort of taking grandchildren away and the chances are they might not see again

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makes it more difficult, doesn't it?

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And they face an even bigger problem.

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12-year-old daughter Abi doesn't want to go.

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If they made me go, I'd make life hell.

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If both kids don't want to come here, I think Carol would change her mind.

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Will a week Down Under convince the whole family to make the move?

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-Whichever way we decide...

-This is the biggest decision of our life.

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Life in overcrowded Britain can feel a bit frantic these days.

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Those that look towards New Zealand, with ten times fewer people than the UK,

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see a peaceful, laidback lifestyle.

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It's a realistic prospect for people with a skill that's in demand.

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But how on earth do you make the life-changing decision to emigrate?

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We've selected 20 British families

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desperate to try a new life on the other side of the world

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and after a one-week trial run, they'll have to vote.

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Do they stay in the UK, or do they move to New Zealand?

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The Lloyd family from Bedford are about to set off on their fact-finding trip to New Zealand.

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Tempted by the image of a slower pace of life, dad Gareth and mum Carol

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dream of what the future might hold for their family on the other side of the world.

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It was through watching your programme that we decided

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this country offers us nothing and if we could move maybe we should think about moving now.

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The way of life is not the same. They're a lot more relaxed about things.

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We hope we can have a better lifestyle out there.

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Maybe we should just start looking at the process and having to go out to New Zealand.

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The Lloyds have been through the mill,

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following dad Gareth's redundancy from his job as a systems analyst in IT.

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When I lost my job, it was a big deal. The first couple of days, it was very frightening.

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What are we going to do? How are we going to survive?

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But his long commute meant he never saw the kids during the week. It was a wake-up call.

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Gareth hopes the move Down Under would let them spend more time together as a family.

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You know, it was difficult on the family,

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but we had a better time through it because we had more time together.

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I realise how much of the time I've missed of the family life.

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His IT skills are on the shortage list

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in New Zealand, so finding a good job there shouldn't be difficult.

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But their 12-year-old daughter Abigail will need convincing.

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I've heard some good points about it.

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I just don't really see the need of going.

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I don't really want to go either, cos I'll miss people -

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my friends and family and football teams and all that lot.

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At the moment, I'm pretty clear that I don't want to go.

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Abi has said to us that we are going to ruin her life by taking her to New Zealand.

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I think Abigail is going to be the one that's going to be the most difficult to please.

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We're hoping she'll see that they probably play more sport there than they do here.

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For us, that's the big thing for her to go and see

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that she can make friends out there and play sport and continue her life.

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Abi's brother, seven-year-old Jamie, is undecided, but he's excited about

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the prospect of seeing one of his favourite animals in New Zealand.

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I like sharks because they're really fierce.

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If I swim with a shark, it'll just be one of the best things of my life.

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Well, I'm not sure about swimming with sharks, Jamie, but maybe you can meet some.

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Mum Carol thinks emigrating's a no-brainer. She fears for her children if they stay in the UK.

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It's really trying to sort of protect both of them

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from the drinking or drugs culture or knife culture that there is here, which really frightens me.

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There isn't the pressure for them to grow up and become little adults, really.

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They can spend and enjoy their time as children for much longer.

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And if they do convince the kids to move and say goodbye to loved ones,

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for Gareth's grandmother, it might be for the last time.

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My nan has just turned 90.

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Her health isn't particularly great.

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She's always been around.

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Ever since I was a child, she's always lived

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two or three minutes walk from us. So that would be person who I do miss.

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Their trial week should answer some of their concerns, but could very well stir up some new ones.

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We're about to go and I'm excited.

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It's a whole new adventure.

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I am a bit scared because it's all unknown.

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I'm hoping that we'll like it. It worries me the thought that we're going out there

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with high hopes and is it actually going to deliver?

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Is it going to give us what we're looking for?

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The Lloyds have a lot to think about, so to help, we offered them the ultimate challenge -

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a week in New Zealand before making a decision.

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We have three different lifestyles for the family to sample.

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One in the country, one in the city and one on the coast.

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Each with an offer of a job and a brand-new way of life for them to enjoy on their budget.

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First, let's take a look at the country lifestyle.

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In the country around Auckland, you can enjoy the simple life,

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surrounded by nature and vast outdoor space.

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On offer is a job at a market-leading

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financial services organisation, with a salary of around £35,000.

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Russell Jones has a system administrator job for Gareth.

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You would work with the latest software products in this purpose-built technology centre.

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You'd join a team of very talented people. We work hard but we play hard, too.

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A stone's throw away from here is rural Coatesville,

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so if only a very short daily commute appeals,

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the Lloyds could pick up a home like this for around £300,000.

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Gareth, I know you'd thrive in this environment.

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We look forward to seeing you Down Under.

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So that's the kind of lifestyle they can enjoy in the country.

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Let's see what's possible in the city on their budget.

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The dazzling Auckland cityscape is home to exciting nightlife with something for all tastes.

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From live shows to an unique meal in the Sky Tower's revolving restaurant.

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We found a company which provides software and technology solutions for the healthcare sector.

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Here's CEO Ian MacRae.

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We have over 300 staff and the software we develop here

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is used in hospitals around the world.

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We're in the city and we have a great lifestyle.

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We have the best cafes, the best schools. Your family will love it.

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If they have a taste for culture and atmosphere, a home in stylish Ponsonby could be on the cards.

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Houses here range from £310,000 to £360,000.

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And the al-fresco lifestyle means enjoying the Kiwi sun, hanging out at trendy bars and cafes.

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You'll enjoy our innovative company and fantastic lifestyle

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and we'd love to see you here when you're Down Under.

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It looks like their life could shape up pretty well in the city, but what about a new life on the coast?

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Auckland occupies a strip of land

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between two separate bodies of water,

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so a fantastic range of harbour living is yours for the choosing.

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Gareth could spend a day working for one of New Zealand's largest retail groups.

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Hi, Gareth. I'm Adam, infrastructure manager at the warehouse. Let me show you what we do here.

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We have around 100 team members in our information services team.

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It is our job to keep the systems available and operating for the entire company.

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We're a great team and we work well together, but we are Kiwi.

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We're relaxed and down to earth.

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This job is located on Auckland's north shore, in the attractive district of Northcote.

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With a property like this going for £320,000,

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coastal living isn't cheap, but the views you wake up to are priceless.

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You and your family are going to love the coastal lifestyle.

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You can swim, kayak and sail, all within minutes of the office.

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You've got the skills we're looking for. I hope to see you when you're Down Under.

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The three lifestyles available to the Lloyds were in the country,

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where the air is fresh.

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In Auckland, with the convenience of city living Kiwi style,

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or on the coast, five miles from Auckland, with water sports on their doorstep.

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So, three very different possibilities for our family to try.

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So, which one did we decide would suit them best?

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For their first ever trip to New Zealand, the Lloyd family

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are heading for the North Island and the city life on offer in Auckland, 12,000 miles away from Bedford.

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Their 22-hour flight leaves them jetlagged and tired.

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Mum Carol is apprehensive about the week ahead.

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I think it's quite hard in a week to make a life-changing decision,

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but I think having the opportunity to come out

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and actually experience life out here is beneficial for Abi, in particular,

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because I think when she actually sees what it's like out here,

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I think she could have a more positive outlook.

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A short drive from the airport, they arrive at their home for the week.

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A spacious four-bedroom detached house, in the Auckland suburb of Three Kings.

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Well, this is a bit smart, isn't it?

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It's costing £450 for the week.

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Owner Lisa shows them around.

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Welcome to New Zealand, Auckland. Come in.

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That's one of our king rooms.

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It's nice. Bit bigger than ours, isn't it?

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-Wow!

-I love it.

-You love it.

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You haven't even looked anywhere yet.

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If you come through, this is your dining room, where you're going to have your meals.

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-How old is it?

-It's about 100 years old.

-100 years.

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That's older than Grandma.

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Something that wouldn't get old is the view.

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It's very nice. You can see a long way.

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I noticed out the front you could see a long, long way, but this is nice.

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It has a very impressive kitchen and two great bathrooms,

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but this house is only temporary.

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Tomorrow, they'll be looking for the kind of home they might make more permanent.

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Back in the UK, the Lloyds' family home is in a village outside Bedford.

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It's a detached house with four bedrooms, worth about £300,000.

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After paying off their mortgage,

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they'd have around £180,000 to spend, or more if they took on a new smaller mortgage.

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We found them three homes to get a realistic idea of what they could afford

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if they make the big decision to emigrate.

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Property one is in the area of Albany,

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with stunning views and a stream at the bottom of the garden.

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-Good morning.

-Hello.

-Would you like to come on in?

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It has four bedrooms and is on the market for 590,000 New Zealand dollars, or £250,000.

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Now, this is a lovely family home for the area and traditionally,

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what you have here is a formal lounge,

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and then we have a second living area over here for the children.

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I'm not sure I like the idea of the children with a big telly.

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-Does the TV come with the house?

-Everything's negotiable on price, isn't it?

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Show me your money.

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Now that's what I call widescreen.

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-Yeah.

-You've got living in one wing of the house and then we go really into the bedroom wing,

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which is quite nice, so you can close the door off if you're entertaining

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-and not disturb the children. Come through.

-Nice size room. Yeah.

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So we have another lovely bedroom here,

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which gets all the morning sun, which is nice and light and bright.

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I like the big windows and how it looks out at the fields and the stream.

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It seems Abi could be warming to her surroundings, but could the biggest room be the deal clincher?

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Look at the wardrobe.

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A big walk-in wardrobe.

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My bedroom, definitely.

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-Oh, that's nice. I don't know where you're putting your stuff, Gareth.

-No, I know!

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Estate agent Val's keen to show them what's on offer outside.

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Fabulous deck area.

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And of course, the bonus of this property is you're looking out onto reserve land over here,

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all these beautiful willow trees which obviously, come spring and summer, will all be out in leaf.

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You've got the lovely stream running through here where,

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if you look carefully, you'll see there's little goldfish in it.

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They're lovely for the children or if you have a dog,

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you've got all this lovely area that you can walk them on.

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Gareth and Carol have gone a bit quiet. What do they think so far?

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I would say there's no garden for the kids to play in,

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so the size of the garden would be a downside for me.

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I think the other problem we've got is it's a bit too small and also for guests,

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there's no room for guests.

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The house itself, I liked.

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I like the living on one side and the bedrooms down the other side. I thought that was nice.

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The ideal property would be a large area and grassland to play with, a nice, large inside area.

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-But maybe an extra bedroom.

-Well, we'll see what we can do.

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Are you two ready? Come on, we'll look at another one.

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Five minutes down the road is the area of Kumeu, where there's a good selection of schools close by.

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Property two with four bedrooms and two bathrooms

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is on the market for the equivalent of £225,000.

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Owner Leanne also has children and a dog.

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-Hello. I'm Leanne.

-I'm Carol.

-Hello.

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-Hello there.

-In your kennel. Go on.

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This is Simone. Come on in.

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The living. The kitchen. Lounge.

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Dining. All open plan.

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I like the style of kitchen. It's kind of simple and clean and is open plan. Plenty of light.

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It's got bigger windows, so it makes it look bigger and brighter, lighter.

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-It's nice.

-Nice house.

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And there's plenty to tempt sports-mad children.

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I've got the soccer fields, soccer, cricket, netball,

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all just here, basically across the road, for all these sports.

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-Good.

-That's better, Abi.

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Leanne's husband has just got back from watching his son play rugby.

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Steven had sport in mind when he helped design the house.

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My father-in-law helped me and built it, put it here about 12 years ago

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and I deliberately left the big yard and the boys played cricket up there all summer and rugby.

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Well, not at the moment cos it's a bit damp.

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Let's see how Steven designed the upstairs.

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This would be great to set up as a second lounge, for the kids.

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If you want to get a pony, you can graze a pony on that.

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-That's what she wants.

-Oh, really?

-Yeah.

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The other great thing about a self-build is you get to have your bedroom just the way you want it.

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The master. The parents' retreat.

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Oh, I like this. This is nice.

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It's true that property two has a lot going for it,

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but what do the Lloyds think about the £225,000 price tag?

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Well, it's less than our house is worth.

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-It's less than we paid for our house two years ago.

-Yeah.

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It's got more land than our house.

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Our house would probably fit in the garden twice.

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This is north-facing, so it gets lots and lots of sun.

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-I think this is a really nice place.

-It's lovely.

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I love the size of the garden.

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It's a huge garden.

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-What do you think?

-I like it.

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I like the location. I like the size of the house.

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-I like the garden.

-I like it all, really.

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But there'd be arguments over who was going to have which room,

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so you'd have to have the downstairs bedrooms.

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On the road again and this time to the new and upmarket estate of Greenhithe.

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Five minutes from town, property three is a luxurious

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three-bedroomed house, with all mod cons and a good size garden.

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Hi, guys. Welcome.

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It's on the market for 775,000 New Zealand dollars, or £330,000.

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It's more than the Lloyds are looking to spend.

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But if Gareth's job interview goes well tomorrow, a bigger mortgage may not seem so scary.

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Agent Jackie Smith's here to show them around.

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-And you must be Dad.

-Yeah.

-Nice to meet you. Come on in. Welcome to Greenhithe.

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Very, very nice estate, this is. Nice houses. Nice location.

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It's a beautiful place.

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So this is a house in Greenhithe.

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Built in 2005.

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And we're on about 600 square metres of site with about a 200-square-metre house size.

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So we've got, obviously, our family living here

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and a fantastic size kitchen. Again, we're facing north,

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you get to have lots of sun in the afternoon.

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Guys, we'll go through to the dining and second living area.

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So, good size rooms and of course, all the doors you can close off,

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so if you are having family here and entertaining, you guys can be in here

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and the children can be in the room next door,

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but you're on the second level, so you can hear them shouting.

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There's some good parks over the road.

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There's the Scouts and the Brownies. Perhaps we'll introduce you to the local football team,

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see if you'll fit into school life. Real community feel here.

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-Lovely.

-I like the sound of the football and the Scouts. I go to both of them and I enjoy them.

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On Saturday night, there's stuff down there for Mum and Dad as well,

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so just need to find a friendly babysitter.

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Maybe Jackie's free. She's friendly enough. On to the bedrooms.

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Really good size.

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And lots of storage.

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-Could this be your room, do you think?

-Not my room.

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I might have another room for you.

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Another big room with twin beds in this one.

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Lots of storage.

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-You could have this one?

-No.

-What do you want the other room for?

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I'm looking at the other rooms and seeing what they are like.

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-You're not having the room upstairs.

-Yes.

-No.

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-So, Jamie, would this be Mum and Dad's room then, so Mum and Dad are going to have bunk beds?

-Yep.

-OK.

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Sorry, Jamie, the upstairs is reserved exclusively for Mum and Dad!

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The master bedroom with en-suite takes up the entire floor.

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-This is nice.

-And nice views of Lucas Creek over in the distance.

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-Look.

-Wow! Look at the views.

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Nice dressing room. And your own private en-suite.

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You can close the door and leave the rest of the family downstairs.

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Oh, look, this is nice, isn't it?

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It's very modern, but I do like it. It's very sort of fresh.

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-Nice, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-So, shall we grab our shoes, folks, and go outside and see the rest of the garden and walk around?

-Yep.

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-Have a look at it?

-Will the garden be the icing on the cake

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with enough room for these two sporty kids?

0:19:400:19:42

I like this house.

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-I think it's similar in style, I suppose, to ours.

-Yeah.

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Nice size rooms. A nice size garden, as well.

0:19:480:19:52

Yeah. I think we are surprised about how much we can afford out here.

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Our property back home's about 300,000, as well.

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It's basically what we have when we get there, bring the mortgage over here, almost.

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Sounds very easy if you can earn the same kind of money, but that's by no means certain.

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So, the Lloyds have seen three properties in the Auckland area.

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House number one had four bedrooms,

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all a tad on the small size and so was the garden.

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Property two also had four bedrooms and was tastefully decorated.

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And the third house went down well with everyone,

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though it only had three bedrooms and the Lloyds would need a £100,000 mortgage to buy it.

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So, we've seen all three properties now.

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Do we prefer the properties in the UK or New Zealand?

0:20:430:20:47

One, two, three -

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-New Zealand!

-UK!

0:20:520:20:55

What, how come?

0:20:550:20:57

I told you, I don't want to go.

0:20:570:21:00

Our house is fine.

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We have a park nearby with football pitches.

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I have a football team and well, our garden's big enough. It's fine.

0:21:040:21:08

I want you to think about it, though.

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-I have.

-I do see her point.

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-I've decided. UK.

-She says she doesn't want to go,

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but I thought she would have voted

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at least for the housing being better.

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The Lloyds are just beginning to get the full measure of life

0:21:240:21:27

in New Zealand, but Gareth has quite a hurdle to jump.

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After a period of being out of work in the UK,

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he's desperate to make a good impression and to find the right job.

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Gareth earns over £46,000 plus allowances in the UK.

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To make the move, he's hoping to find the right job for the right money in Auckland.

0:21:430:21:48

Meanwhile, across town, Carol's hoping to persuade the kids

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that there's plenty on offer in New Zealand to entertain them.

0:21:520:21:56

Jamie's always wanted to see a shark in the flesh, so she's taking them to Auckland's aquarium.

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It's essential Jamie feels there's something in New Zealand for him.

0:22:050:22:08

Is that a wobbegong?

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Yeah. That's a wobbegong shark. It's an Australian type of carpet shark.

0:22:110:22:15

Oh, look at that, Jamie.

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Wow! That's massive!

0:22:170:22:20

Gareth's climbed the stairs to the third floor

0:22:200:22:22

to meet Ian, his boss for the day.

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But in his shirt and tie,

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will he seem overdressed in the laidback New Zealand workplace?

0:22:250:22:29

-Hiya.

-Hi, Gareth. How are you?

-I'm great.

-Welcome. I love your tie, by the way.

0:22:290:22:33

Ah, maybe the tie is a step too far.

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Hopefully, his co-workers will be as smart as Gareth.

0:22:360:22:39

Oh, well, there's a free breakfast.

0:22:430:22:45

-Great.

-On Monday mornings, we have breakfast here.

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This is how we get people to work on time. We give them free food.

0:22:480:22:51

-Oh, right.

-Works a treat, actually.

0:22:510:22:54

It's too warm in here.

0:22:540:22:56

A good call, Gareth. You need to feel comfortable if you're going to do your best today.

0:22:560:23:01

Me getting a job out here is crucial for the family.

0:23:010:23:04

'It's important I make good contacts, I leave a good impression here.

0:23:040:23:08

'If they haven't got vacancies, they can recommend me to other people.'

0:23:080:23:11

Ian's managerial approach is to encourage free and creative thinking

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through a relaxed and informal workplace.

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-So, boys, where are you taking our products today?

-To the future.

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-To the future.

-And beyond.

0:23:250:23:28

Oh, really.

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I feel reassured.

0:23:310:23:33

I feel safe now.

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Over at the aquarium, Jamie's captivated,

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but Carol can't stop thinking about Gareth

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and how he's getting on in his job trial.

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There's a lot of pressure on him

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because it's the deciding factor really, for him...is the job.

0:23:460:23:50

Job satisfaction is important, as is the money,

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but I think the job satisfaction is more important

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cos I think that he wants to be happy in what he's doing

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rather than just slogging every day.

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I am concerned about what he's going through because I think

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he's put a lot of faith in the job being what he's looking for

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and everything else is secondary because he's got to work to support us all, I suppose, yeah.

0:24:200:24:26

He needs to...

0:24:260:24:28

He wants to be happy in what he's doing.

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So far, Gareth's been treated to breakfast and a tour of his prospective workplace,

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but surely he can't get off that easy.

0:24:380:24:41

Yeah. I've just been here an hour and I find it kind of a very relaxed environment.

0:24:420:24:47

There probably is pressure, but there doesn't seem anybody under pressure.

0:24:470:24:51

Well, if it's pressure you want, Gareth, Ian's got someone to put you through your paces.

0:24:510:24:55

Meet Big Steve.

0:24:550:24:57

Now, he's got a few little exercises for you.

0:24:580:25:00

-Pleased to meet you.

-And you.

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It's Gareth's greatest fear.

0:25:020:25:05

A recruitment test on systems he may not be familiar with

0:25:050:25:08

and certainly hasn't revised for.

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-So I'll leave you guys to it and, Gareth, good luck.

-Cheers. Thanks.

0:25:100:25:14

To pass this test, Gareth needs to score well.

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At least 50% is essential.

0:25:170:25:20

I haven't had to do a test since I did my earlier Microsoft certification in NT4,

0:25:200:25:25

which was about 1998.

0:25:250:25:29

A bit stressful, but we'll have to see how it goes.

0:25:290:25:33

It's a pretty solid sort of test

0:25:330:25:36

and I think probably not having been warned,

0:25:360:25:40

this will be a hard test for him to do well on,

0:25:400:25:42

so it's going to be a challenge for him, really.

0:25:420:25:45

Quite a tough exam really, this.

0:25:450:25:48

So, I suppose realistically,

0:25:480:25:49

50% would be a good pass mark at this stage.

0:25:490:25:53

How do you think Dad's getting on at work?

0:25:560:25:58

I hope he doesn't like the work.

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-Well, I hope he votes for New Zealand. Yeah.

-No!

0:26:010:26:04

-OK, Steve, I've now finished here.

-All done.

-Yeah.

-Excellent.

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-How did you go there?

-Not too good. I got 56%.

0:26:090:26:13

-Are you happy with that?

-Not really. No.

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There were some questions that I've never done before, so we'll see.

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I am aware that this is a large area

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and unless you work in all those areas that you...

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More than 50% is a good result, so we're pretty happy with that.

0:26:240:26:30

So, has Gareth shown these software guys he's got the hardware for the job?

0:26:300:26:35

I think Gareth's a terribly nice guy. He'd fit in here really well.

0:26:350:26:38

People with Gareth's skills are increasingly hard to find

0:26:380:26:43

and he should be able to get jobs in this part of the world,

0:26:430:26:46

in fact, in most other parts of the world, as well.

0:26:460:26:49

My first impressions are that he's very capable.

0:26:490:26:52

He's a fantastic chap.

0:26:520:26:54

That's wonderful!

0:26:540:26:56

Ian can see Gareth's potential and feels he could fit in well.

0:26:560:26:59

But how was it for Gareth?

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It's a place that I could really enjoy working in.

0:27:020:27:05

The people there are really nice. It's the right environment.

0:27:050:27:09

They've told me the salary I can expect would be 110 to 130,000 dollars,

0:27:090:27:13

which is around about 45K.

0:27:130:27:15

When you convert it back to pounds, it's less than what I'm on.

0:27:150:27:18

Looking at the lifestyle, the social life they have there,

0:27:180:27:23

it seems to be the right type of work balance.

0:27:230:27:25

What's the verdict, Gareth?

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Work in the UK, or New Zealand?

0:27:270:27:29

Overall, with work, I prefer... New Zealand.

0:27:300:27:34

If, like the Lloyd family, you're considering a move to New Zealand,

0:27:390:27:43

we found out how welcoming are the Kiwis

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and what's on offer to ease immigrants into Kiwi life.

0:27:460:27:49

Folk from the UK are wonderful. When they come they tend to love it.

0:27:490:27:53

They stay, drive on the left of the road, speak English.

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The red carpet is out and we're very keen.

0:27:560:27:58

More and more are coming from the UK and it's fantastic.

0:27:580:28:01

This positive attitude is extended via a welcoming ceremony like this.

0:28:010:28:05

They're fairly relaxed affairs

0:28:050:28:07

where you're likely to be greeted with traditional Maori performances.

0:28:070:28:11

THEY CHANT

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And warmly received by local officials and organisations.

0:28:140:28:17

The migrant support group are here. The business development folk are here.

0:28:170:28:21

There's educational supporters here. It's about saying, "Hey, thanks".

0:28:210:28:25

It's less about formalities, more about having a drink and fun

0:28:250:28:28

and as Mayor, it's a thrill to be able to say, "Welcome to our place, what can we do to help?"

0:28:280:28:33

Making that transition into a new community

0:28:340:28:37

isn't always plain sailing, but don't panic.

0:28:370:28:41

There are free services on hand to offer support

0:28:410:28:43

and opportunities to make new friends.

0:28:430:28:46

The meet-ups we organise around the country are a way

0:28:460:28:49

for settled migrants and skilled migrants to get together, share information

0:28:490:28:54

and also introduce each other to new clubs, their network of friends.

0:28:540:28:57

We're a support network and it can just help...help people move in,

0:28:570:29:02

help people if they need a babysitter, normal things in life.

0:29:020:29:06

So, if you're willing to put the effort in,

0:29:060:29:09

there's help available and plenty of encouragement, too.

0:29:090:29:12

Here's the Mayor of New Plymouth again, with his top migration tips.

0:29:120:29:17

My three tips are very simple.

0:29:170:29:19

It's just three words. Just do it.

0:29:190:29:21

Just do it. Get on a plane and get out here. You'll love it.

0:29:210:29:24

When Gareth Lloyd was made redundant, the family began to consider a new start in New Zealand.

0:29:300:29:35

We just hope we can have a better lifestyle out there really.

0:29:350:29:39

Opportunities are going to be better for the whole family.

0:29:390:29:42

Their way of life is not the same. They're a lot more...

0:29:420:29:45

relaxed about things.

0:29:450:29:47

But all along, daughter Abi has been against a move.

0:29:470:29:51

I just don't really see the need of going.

0:29:510:29:53

I don't really want to go either, because I'll miss people.

0:29:530:29:56

Mum and Dad were bowled over with the property they could get for their money.

0:29:560:30:01

It's got a lot more land than our house. Our house would probably fit in the garden twice.

0:30:010:30:06

-But Abi voted UK.

-I told you. I don't want to go.

0:30:060:30:10

Our house is fine. I've decided. UK.

0:30:100:30:14

Gareth's day at work was a success,

0:30:140:30:16

but will he and Carol ever get Abi onside?

0:30:160:30:19

I think I could maybe live here, but I'm still not really convinced.

0:30:190:30:23

And will the heartache of loved ones back home sew seeds of doubt for all the family?

0:30:230:30:28

Taking grandchildren away that they might not see again

0:30:280:30:31

-makes it more difficult, doesn't it?

-Don't cry.

0:30:310:30:36

The Lloyd family have only a few short days before they must make the biggest decision of their lives.

0:30:360:30:42

I can see it's going to be an uphill struggle

0:30:460:30:48

to get Abi ever to accept the idea of moving to New Zealand.

0:30:480:30:52

One way, maybe, to encourage her is to see if she can make some great new friends.

0:30:520:30:57

Before they came over to New Zealand,

0:31:000:31:02

the Lloyds got in touch with the Auckland Football Federation

0:31:020:31:05

and arranged for Abi to train with their women's under-12s team,

0:31:050:31:09

some of the best players in the country.

0:31:090:31:11

A little bit nervous, but more excited.

0:31:110:31:15

Richard, the coach, will be putting Abi through her paces.

0:31:180:31:21

And he's English, so that should reassure Abi.

0:31:210:31:24

Girls, this is Abi, from England.

0:31:240:31:26

And she's over here with her parents and they're thinking of moving over to New Zealand.

0:31:260:31:30

So, if you'd all like to give her a warm welcome. Nice to meet you, Abi.

0:31:300:31:35

The session's about keeping the ball in possession.

0:31:350:31:37

-Hi.

-Hi.

0:31:370:31:40

-Whereabouts in England are you?

-Bedford.

0:31:400:31:43

Oh, dear. Maybe there's a bit of a language barrier here.

0:31:430:31:46

Perhaps Abi should let her football do the talking.

0:31:460:31:50

Great movement, Abi. Good.

0:31:500:31:53

Good. Good. Her skills are great.

0:31:530:31:55

There's nothing wrong with her skills.

0:31:550:31:57

No doubt about it.

0:31:570:31:59

It's just the age where you're meeting people for the first time

0:31:590:32:04

and she's very, very quiet at the moment.

0:32:040:32:06

Which is unusual because on the pitch, she's very loud.

0:32:060:32:09

That's why she's been made captain. She's loud. She gives commands.

0:32:090:32:12

Once she's in and she knows what she's doing,

0:32:120:32:15

then she'll be her usual self. A bit frightening, really.

0:32:150:32:19

This is very important. If she comes here, enjoys the football,

0:32:220:32:26

sees that football continues here,

0:32:260:32:28

with people she likes, then she'll be happy coming here.

0:32:280:32:31

At the moment, that's one of her big issues in not coming...is football.

0:32:310:32:35

I think, if she gets on well today,

0:32:350:32:37

the decision to come out here to live will be a lot easier.

0:32:370:32:41

There'll be a future in a club. She's a cracking little player.

0:32:410:32:44

-And I'd like to have her in my side.

-Wow!

0:32:440:32:46

She's got a place on the team if she wants it.

0:32:460:32:49

But with some new Kiwi footy mates, how's she feeling?

0:32:490:32:52

It's fun. They were really nice.

0:32:520:32:54

I think I could maybe live here, but I'm still not really convinced.

0:32:540:32:58

It sounds like today's session

0:32:580:33:00

has helped soften her on the prospect of moving,

0:33:000:33:03

even if she's not totally onside yet.

0:33:030:33:05

Before they vote, a quick test for the whole family

0:33:050:33:09

to make friends with the locals.

0:33:090:33:11

Hi. My name's Jamie and I'm on a television programme called Wanted Down Under.

0:33:110:33:16

Excuse me. I'm Abi and wondered if you'd help me for a second, please.

0:33:160:33:20

-Yes, dear, what would you like?

-I'd like you to hold this.

0:33:200:33:24

We're doing a TV programme and we need you to hold these cards.

0:33:240:33:27

We've got to make a decision on who are the friendliest people. People from the UK or New Zealand.

0:33:270:33:33

-Will you do that for me?

-Sure.

0:33:330:33:35

-I'm going to ask you to spin the card and I'll tell you what to vote.

-OK.

-Can you do that for me?

0:33:350:33:39

So I'm going to spin it and you're going to tell me which way.

0:33:390:33:43

I'm going to tell you which one to spin and you'll show that.

0:33:430:33:47

Each member has nominated a stranger to vote for them,

0:33:470:33:50

after telling them which flag to show.

0:33:500:33:53

It's time for us to vote on who's the most friendly.

0:33:530:33:56

People in the UK or people in New Zealand. So, after three. One. Two. Three.

0:33:560:34:02

EVERYONE: New Zealand.

0:34:020:34:05

Doesn't mean I've changed my mind on coming here.

0:34:050:34:08

LAUGHTER

0:34:080:34:11

The Lloyds are nearly at the end of their week's trial of life

0:34:160:34:19

in New Zealand, but will messages from friends and family at home

0:34:190:34:23

influence their final vote?

0:34:230:34:26

-Hello, kids.

-Hello, Gareth, Carol.

0:34:310:34:34

Hope you're having a fantastic time.

0:34:340:34:36

They've always thought about moving, but where,

0:34:360:34:40

why New Zealand cos it's so far, perhaps they want to get rid of us.

0:34:400:34:45

It's a long, long way, isn't it?

0:34:450:34:48

Who knows? I might not get there.

0:34:480:34:50

I just didn't want to believe it to be honest,

0:34:500:34:53

because I felt I would never see them again.

0:34:530:34:56

Whenever Abigail or Jamie were playing

0:34:560:34:58

an important football match,

0:34:580:35:00

they'd let me know and I'd go and watch them, shout for them.

0:35:000:35:04

Yes, I shall miss all of that.

0:35:040:35:06

EVERYONE: Hi, Abi!

0:35:060:35:09

Abi's a supportive player.

0:35:090:35:11

If she scores goals, we all love her.

0:35:110:35:15

She's amazing and everyone's going to miss her a lot.

0:35:150:35:18

Jamie is just lovable.

0:35:180:35:21

He loves his sharks and he loves his football.

0:35:210:35:25

They're just nice kids.

0:35:250:35:27

It's just that we will miss them and hopefully,

0:35:270:35:30

they will miss us, because we are always here for them.

0:35:300:35:35

Always have been. Always will be.

0:35:350:35:38

Gareth's grandmother now is 90 years of age.

0:35:380:35:42

She's been in ill health. She's been in hospital.

0:35:420:35:46

We haven't told her you're going because she's so frail.

0:35:460:35:49

We're worried about upsetting her.

0:35:490:35:51

It could possibly be the last time you'll see her.

0:35:510:35:55

I don't think I could go to the airport because I would be so upset,

0:35:550:35:58

it would upset the children. It would upset...

0:35:580:36:02

Gareth and Carol.

0:36:020:36:04

And it'd upset the rest of the passengers getting on the plane.

0:36:040:36:08

THEY CHUCKLE

0:36:080:36:09

It's almost saying goodbye.

0:36:090:36:11

I may never see them again.

0:36:110:36:13

If they...if they do go, I may never see them once they go.

0:36:130:36:18

It sort of, erm...leaves a void in our lives.

0:36:180:36:23

Don't cry.

0:36:380:36:40

I just don't know what to do.

0:36:440:36:47

Don't cry. You will see them again.

0:36:470:36:49

Of that I'm quite sure.

0:36:490:36:52

I know we will, but...it's hard.

0:36:520:36:56

So, so, so hard.

0:36:560:36:59

Just going to miss you.

0:37:020:37:03

I'll just have to try my best

0:37:030:37:06

and just hope that we'll all meet up.

0:37:060:37:12

If I can't come to see you, you'll just have to come to see me.

0:37:120:37:15

But I love you to bits.

0:37:150:37:18

Bye.

0:37:180:37:20

Abi, how are you feeling now?

0:37:280:37:30

Funny. Sad.

0:37:320:37:33

-No regrets about coming and living here?

-Yes, I have.

0:37:330:37:36

We're not coming.

0:37:360:37:38

-Because?

-Because I said we're not.

0:37:380:37:41

-Carol?

-I don't know. It's difficult. You knew it was going to be like that.

0:37:410:37:47

They never tell you things face to face like they told you on there,

0:37:470:37:52

which makes it more difficult, doesn't it?

0:37:520:37:55

Like Sheila was saying, Carol's mum was saying

0:37:550:37:58

the phone calls, that won't stop.

0:37:580:38:01

We have the Internet. My parents like travelling,

0:38:010:38:04

so I don't see why they wouldn't come out and visit us anyway.

0:38:040:38:08

So it won't be a problem, them coming out.

0:38:080:38:10

Your mum will be hard. I don't think she'll come out.

0:38:100:38:13

I think it'll be very hard

0:38:130:38:15

because I think the only time we would see her is if we went home

0:38:150:38:20

on holiday or went back on holiday,

0:38:200:38:23

but I think the only contact we would have is by phone.

0:38:230:38:26

It does make me a bit sad, sort of taking grandchildren away,

0:38:260:38:31

the chances are they might not see again,

0:38:310:38:33

or if they do see, it's going to be once a year

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or once every two years. Yeah.

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Probably every two years.

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It's a sobering thought, which only adds to Abi's doubts.

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Once you've seen the DVD, I'm not really sure.

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-Why not?

-Because it's pointless.

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I'm going home and I'm not coming back.

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The more Gareth and Carol try to convince Abi, the more she pushes back.

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Is there any chance left that they might make the move?

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Abi takes some time to reflect.

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They don't listen.

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My mum's more open to listening than my dad.

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My dad's made up his mind and he wants to come,

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and if this trip wasn't what he expected,

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he still would have said "Oh, it's great, we're coming."

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It's, like, you like certain things.

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I mean, I like certain things about it here,

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but I wouldn't like to live here

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and I'm trying to please my mum and dad.

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But then if I say, "Oh, I like this bit cos we don't get that at home,

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then they'll use...well, my dad said he won't use anything against me but he does.

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And they'll assume I like it here and might make me move almost.

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It's their last day and the final vote is nearly upon them.

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When it comes to the crunch, which way will Abi vote?

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The Lloyd family have come to the end of their week in Auckland and it's been tough.

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A surprise test at work for Gareth piled on the pressure.

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I haven't had to do a test since 1998.

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Bit stressful.

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Finding the right home was essential.

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What I've seen so far I like. The space is great here.

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The location.

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Even the city doesn't seem to be that busy.

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But from the start, 12-year-old Abi was determined

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she wouldn't leave her friends and family behind.

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I'll try and be like reasonable, but if they make me come

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when I don't want to, then I'll just have to try and prove to them that it's the wrong decision.

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And it turned into a battle of wills between Abi and her mum and dad.

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It's pointless.

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I'm going home and I'm not coming back.

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I think her stubbornness has been more than normal, a lot more than normal, I think.

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She's just come out and decided and I've said no and that's it.

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There's so much to weigh up and it's time for their final decision.

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If we've got to put up with Abigail saying, "I told you so, shouldn't have come,"

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every time something goes wrong, or even when she is enjoying stuff

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she won't admit it, if she comes here with that attitude.

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So, I really need her to vote for New Zealand.

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It's crunch time. It's time to make the vote.

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So, after three.

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Let's vote on whether we'd prefer to live in New Zealand or the UK.

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-UK.

-New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

-UK.

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Jamie's agreeing with his sister.

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But why have you changed your mind?

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Because after the tape, erm...it made me really think about it.

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I would like to live here but I couldn't leave friends and family.

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-So if they came out with us, you'd be happy, yeah?

-Yep.

-OK.

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We're 50/50 on our vote then.

0:42:030:42:06

Abi's determination to stay in the UK

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dominated the whole week for the Lloyd family.

0:42:090:42:13

Her resolve slightly wavered when it came to making friends,

0:42:130:42:16

but in the end she stuck to her guns

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and Jamie came round to her point of view.

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But Gareth and Carol are still determined

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the whole family will move where they're Wanted Down Under.

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We've got a bit of talking to do, haven't we? A few things to talk about.

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-Yes, we have.

-And to sort of see where we go from here.

-Yep.

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OK. Let's go, then. Come on.

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Join us next time to find out what happens

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when another British family have to decide

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whether to go where they're Wanted Down Under.

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