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The reality of moving to the other side of the world often comes at a very high price, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
both to your wallet and the people you love the most, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
but if you believe your family could have the future you dreamt of, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
could you convince them it's a price worth paying? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
For five years, Vivian Stirk has dreamed of moving Down Under. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
When you see the lifestyle you can have, why can't we have the same? | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
But it could mean facing the toughest choice of her life. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
I can't leave her! | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
-And after a week of dealing with high prices... -It's not going to happen, is it? | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
..and high emotions, the Stirks will have to decide if New Zealand is a dream they can afford and share. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:46 | |
There's always going to be somebody in this triangle that is upset. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Every year, thousands of us move to New Zealand for a new start. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
The more relaxed pace of life in this country of beautiful scenery and a population of only 4.3 million | 0:01:18 | 0:01:24 | |
are a powerful draw. But the reality of taking on such a huge challenge doesn't work out for everyone | 0:01:24 | 0:01:30 | |
and many return home missing their old lives. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
The Stirk family want to find out if emigrating can offer them a better future. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
They have one week to experience life in New Zealand | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
before they face a huge decision - whether to stay in the UK or to make the move Down Under for good. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:50 | |
Their journey takes them across three continents and 12 time zones, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
spending more than 24 hours in the air. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
It's the first time any of the Stirks have set foot in New Zealand | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
and the marathon journey has left them with mixed feelings. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
-We've had about two hours sleep. -If that! | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
A bit strange to start with, but I'm sure we'll all settle down soon. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
I'm really excited. A little bit nervous as well, but looking forward to seeing the houses and the area. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:23 | |
Ahead is a week that could change their lives, half a world away from their home in Yorkshire. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:29 | |
Back in the UK, the Stirks live in the town of Cleckheaton. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
They are Viv, a school administrator, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Darren, a telecommunications engineer, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
and their three children - Daniella, a student midwife, 16-year-old Emma and 12-year-old Ben. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:48 | |
They are born and bred Yorkshire folk and have lived in Cleckheaton since they married 18 years ago. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:57 | |
-We're in-between Bradford, Leeds... -Halifax. -Halifax, yeah. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
-We're only very small, aren't we? -Yeah. You're five foot, I'm five foot seven. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
-We're happy here, aren't we? -Yeah. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
It's OK. We've got everything we need round here. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
-So we're going to move to the other side of t'world instead! -Possibly. Yeah. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:19 | |
Viv's reasons for emigrating started out as a simple desire for better weather. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:26 | |
The dream materialised originally because I got very, very fed up of our English climate. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:33 | |
We do get some nice, warm weather, but it's just not consistent. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
The Stirks are an active, outdoor family, so the Kiwi lifestyle could be perfect for them. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:44 | |
When you see the lifestyle that you can have out there, you just think, "Why can't we have the same?" | 0:03:45 | 0:03:53 | |
Not that I'm not happy being here, but you just think, "Could we possibly have that?" | 0:03:53 | 0:03:59 | |
While Viv's hopes have grown over the years, Darren has taken longer to come round to the idea. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:06 | |
-As the main breadwinner, he knows how big a risk they're taking. -'I don't dislike it here.' | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
I'm going along with it to see if I do think that there's something there, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
but from my point of view giving up the best job I've ever had and the longest job I've ever had, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:23 | |
that's something I really need to be sure of. I don't want to just walk away from that | 0:04:23 | 0:04:29 | |
and make the biggest mistake ever. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Despite the risks, Viv hopes that New Zealand can give their children a better life. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
It's all right encouraging your children to do well at school, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
go to university, but if there aren't the jobs there, then where's the future? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
I'm hoping that I'm not wrong in saying that they might have a better chance over in New Zealand. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:54 | |
Both Emma and Ben are happy to give New Zealand a try. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
I am excited about it all, but I'm really scared as well. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
If I don't like it, but everyone else does. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
I know how much it means to my mum. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
It's just a new experience, so I'll decide when I get over there | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
and see what it offers. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Like, if it's good, then, you know, I might want to go, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:24 | |
and if it's not, then what are you wanting then? | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Stay here. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
But for their elder sister Daniella, it's a far tougher decision to face. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
-Daniella's got a boyfriend of 3½ years. That's not easy to deal with for her or for you. -No. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:42 | |
That is the massive concern now. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Daniella wants to train as a midwife and sees her career and future in the UK. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
I want to stay here now because hopefully I'm off to uni in October. That's my career. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:56 | |
To move at my age | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
and start totally again, it's just... You're tied down here, really. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
-She's been with Danny since they were 16. -I do see myself being with Daniella in years to come | 0:06:04 | 0:06:11 | |
and I don't think we'd still be together after this amount of time if I didn't think that. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:18 | |
I think people always frown upon us saying that sort of thing because we're so young. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
-"You're only young." -Only 18, 19. "You can't possibly know." But... | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
Who does know? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Exactly. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
Both Daniella and Viv face a difficult choice and Viv knows just how much is at stake. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:39 | |
The reality is we could give up a chance of moving to New Zealand | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
because of Daniella's feelings for Danny. And the bottom line is | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
I am asking her to finish things with Danny if it meant that we could all be together. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:56 | |
But there's never going to be a happy ending, is there? | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
There's always going to be somebody in this triangle that is upset. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Emigrating would mean breaking other family ties. Viv's parents have passed away, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
but the children are very close to Darren's mum and dad. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
We are taking their grandchildren away, but I also think deep down they will understand the reasons, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:22 | |
that we want to try to see if there is a better future for us and our children. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
I'm sure they will understand. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
-But Viv's hopes will be for nothing if she can't share them with her family. -If Daniella can't go, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:36 | |
we'll just have to give it up. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
I can't leave her! | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Here. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
You all right? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
I just can't leave her. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I want us all to go because I can't leave one of my children, no matter how old she is. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:02 | |
If it's what she really wanted to do then she should do it. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
So... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
But she won't if I won't go. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
At this moment in time, it's all of us or nothing. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
It really is. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Viv has a huge task ahead of her. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
She has just a few days to persuade her family that life in New Zealand is worth everything they'd give up, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:27 | |
but if the reality doesn't deliver, it will mean the end of her dream. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
The Stirks are visiting Auckland on New Zealand's north island. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
It's the country's largest city with a population of 1½ million people, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
nearly a third of the entire country. So there could be lots of work opportunities for Darren. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
It's ranked among the top ten cities in the world for quality of life, but that comes with a downside - | 0:08:48 | 0:08:55 | |
house prices are the highest in New Zealand. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
Home for the week is a three-bedroom apartment in Mission Bay, complete with shared sports facilities. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
It should be an ideal base for the family, but will they agree? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
-This is absolutely awesome. -Amazing. It's a little bit embarrassing to where we live, isn't it? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:18 | |
Oh, it's absolutely gorgeous. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
-It's just a world away from anything we've ever experienced. -It is, yeah. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
You've never get anything like this in Cleckheaton. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
I think that's a definite yes, but thoughts soon turn to the week ahead and their huge decision. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:39 | |
My hopes for this week are to get more of an answer as to whether we could make this work. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:46 | |
And whether the children and Darren want it to work as well and whether it's feasible. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
We don't want to get too carried away. We've got to be realistic, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
but, yeah, it's looking good. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
I'm feeling nervous and excited. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
- So am I. - Cos it's something new. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
I'm looking forward to all the different experiences to come. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
I hope at the end of this week we can say, one way or another, that we could definitely live here. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
Back in the UK, the Stirks share this three-bedroom family home in Cleckheaton. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
They believe it's worth around £140,000 and have a total budget of up to £200,000. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:32 | |
However, that figure would also have to cover all their emigration costs | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
and they're being realistic about what they're looking for. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
We're not looking for a bigger house. Maybe a bit more land - they seem to have a bit more land - | 0:10:41 | 0:10:47 | |
but the house doesn't need to be any bigger. Maybe an extra bathroom. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
It's a struggle having three females in the house and one bathroom. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
Today we're going to give the Stirks a taste of Auckland's property market. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
We'll show them three options based on what they want ideally, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
what they can afford and the real cost of property Down Under. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
After seeing for themselves what's on offer, we'll reveal to the family just how much each house costs. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:16 | |
The first stop is in Gulf Harbour, a peaceful suburb popular with families keen on outdoor living. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:22 | |
At just over an hour north of Auckland's city centre, it would mean a long commute, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:28 | |
but being on the outskirts should help their budget stretch as far as possible. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
This semi-detached property is close to the local marina and has great sea views. However, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:39 | |
what will the Stirks make of it? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Don't like it. It's not much of an area for sitting out as a family. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
-It doesn't compare to the space we have at home outside. -No. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
We'd need to look inside and have a good look round before we completely say no. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
That's not a good start. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Can the indoors lift the mood? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Kitchen, straight into the living room. With a Sunday roast, you'd have a smell all in this room. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:08 | |
It looks like open-plan living may not be for the family, but what about the decking area? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
It's not very wide. It don't blow me away. Definitely not. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
-It almost feels like living in a caravan. -Yeah. It does look very chalet type. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
The lack of outdoor space is also a concern, but does it have enough bedrooms for a family of five? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:30 | |
-Is this the master bedroom? -I like this. Space-wise, it's good. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
Much more space than we're used to at home. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
-It depends how many bedrooms there are. -Yeah. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
This is a nice-sized room. For Ben, say. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
It's got a lot more room than what he's used to now. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
This is bedroom number three. Again, it's not a bad size, Darren, is it? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
But if there isn't another bedroom then it's three again. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Convincing Daniella to emigrate could be harder if she has to share a bedroom as she currently does. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:09 | |
-It's a lot smaller than the one at home. -Yeah. -We have loads of stuff. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
If this was my bedroom, I'd prefer it to my old one. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
- It's a lot more spacious. - Yeah. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
One option might be to convert the garage. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
-This is... -Big, innit? -Yeah. I could set up a little gym in here. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
You don't think it would be ideal for making another bedroom, then? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
-Er...no. I think you'd spoil the house if you change this to a bedroom. -Yeah. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:41 | |
It looks as if this house is simply too small for the Stirks' needs. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
And it's missing the garden Darren wants. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
But is it one they can afford with their budget of up to £200,000? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
Ben, would you like to do the duty? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
£190,000. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
-I'm shocked. -That is a hell of a lot more than I would have expected. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
I'm a little bit stunned, actually, at how much that is. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
But it's where you're living. If you want that view, you have to pay. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
We'd have to have a fairly big mortgage and both work full-time. We'd need more money coming in. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:20 | |
I would consider being in debt, but not to live here. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
That price tag has come as a real shock. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-It's not going to happen, is it? -No, not from what I've seen so far. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
Don't be too downhearted. There's a lot of things to see. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
You're just learning not to build your hopes up, cos what's the point? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
With so much riding on this week, it's a difficult start for everyone | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
and seeing the reality of living in New Zealand's most expensive city has cast a dark cloud over the day. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:07 | |
So could the next house help lift everyone's spirits? | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
-It's a three-bedroom, detached property in the Swanson area of West Auckland. -What do you think? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:18 | |
Looks nice, actually. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
That's much more encouraging. And with plenty of outdoor space, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
it ticks one important feature on Darren's wish list. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
-That's amazing. -Oh! -Yeah, I like... The surroundings are excellent. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
-This is brand-new, this. It's literally just been done. -I like it. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
There's plenty of room there for sitting out on. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
That's also positive, but what about the indoors? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
-Right, what do you think? -Nice size. -Yeah. Nice size. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
-Everything I've seen is open-plan. -Yeah. -Kitchen, lounge, all in the same area with a partition wall. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:58 | |
-That seems to be the theme. -It's a big enough lounge, though. -Yeah. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
Let's see what we've got in here. ..Oh, a bedroom. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
Liverpool! | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
-Weird, innit? Liverpool? Nice-size bedroom. -Yeah, it's fine. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
Another bedroom. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
-These bedrooms look OK for Ben, but that other bedroom's not... -Big enough for the girls. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:24 | |
-Not very big. -Right. -So... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
We could be struggling for space. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Despite a good start, the lack of a fourth bedroom is a familiar problem. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:36 | |
-We would have to do the same thing that we've done at home and put... -Two beds in. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:42 | |
-Emma, Daniella. -They'd have to share. -And we'd be in there. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:48 | |
And the children don't need to go too far to see what's missing for themselves. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
This has the garden Darren wants, even without a fourth bedroom, | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
but if the price was right, could the Stirks be persuaded to squeeze themselves into it? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:06 | |
It's a shock. 192,000. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Yeah. I think the prices are definitely going up because of the area. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
I think you are getting better value for money with our house than you are with this. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
-I thought this were definitely doable. -Despite its price, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
this house was a definite improvement for the family, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
but finding something in the right place with the right space is looking tricky. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:41 | |
Their final stop is further away from the city centre, in leafy West Auckland, a sought after area | 0:17:41 | 0:17:47 | |
for outdoor lovers. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
-I like this. Idyllic. -That looks absolutely gorgeous. -A garden for Dad. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:55 | |
On paper, this house has everything the Stirks are looking for, with four bedrooms, two bathrooms | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
and plenty of living space, even for a family of five. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
Wow. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
-It's huge. -Is this the lounge? Goodness, me. -Open-plan lounge again, kitchen. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:16 | |
But just look at that. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
Even the views are bigger. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
-It is perfection. -That's huge. -You can't hear the M62 from here! | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
That's Darren sold already. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
-And Viv? -I think this is probably the nicest house I have ever, ever seen in my life. -Really? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
-That I've ever been in. -Yeah. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
It's what I would say is my ideal home. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
The living area has wowed everyone, but will the bedrooms impress? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
-Ben's bedroom. It is a bedroom, but without a bed in it. -Unless that's a sofa bed. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
And this one. It's nice and big. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-It's just everything that we've wanted, isn't it? -Yeah, if I could afford this, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:05 | |
-I'd sign on the dotted line right now. Seriously. -It feels good. It feels right. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
The Stirks seem to have found exactly what they hoped for with enough bedrooms | 0:19:10 | 0:19:16 | |
and two bathrooms, putting an end to the indoor morning rush hour! | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
And with a huge garden, there's something for the whole family. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
-It's everything we've wanted in a house. -It is. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
-It's like it's been made to our specification. -And put in the right place. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:35 | |
-It's just perfect in every way. -Can't fault it. -I don't want to see the price, do you? -No. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:41 | |
This house seems to have rekindled Viv's hopes, but after seeing the hard facts of property prices, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:48 | |
is the dream house just that? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Ready? I don't really want to look. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
Emma? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
£319,000. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:01 | |
I'm not shocked. And I'm not upset. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
I'm really glad that we've had the chance to look at this house. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
If this is £319,000, there could be something within our budget. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
We'd have to get a mortgage, but then... | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
It's Emma's turn to be disappointed. However, Viv's taken the positives from it and Darren has an idea. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:26 | |
- If all three of us were working full-time, then we could... - Am I living here as well? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:33 | |
-- I could never leave! - But it's nice to dream. -Yeah. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
I like the sound of that plan, Darren. Get Daniella to move and then afford the home of your dreams! | 0:20:37 | 0:20:44 | |
It's been quite a day for the Stirks. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
The first property was just about affordable, but it didn't have the space, inside or out. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:55 | |
The second property was an improvement, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
but still missing that fourth bedroom. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
And the final house offered everything they wanted, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
but at a very high price. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
After a bumpy landing in New Zealand do the Stirks believe there could be a home for them Down Under? | 0:21:07 | 0:21:14 | |
Based on the properties we've seen today, our vote goes to... | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
-UK. -UK. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
-Unanimous. -Yeah. -Why am I not surprised? -I'm not surprised. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
-Are you surprised? -Definitely not. -I'm not surprised either. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
-If you're going to move all this way, you want to be blown away by your house. -You do. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
-Or at least like it a little bit. -Yeah. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
A unanimous vote for home isn't the start Viv hoped for | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
and back at the accommodation, she's still taking in the day's events. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
I don't think it's put me off in terms of still wanting to see how far we can go with this | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
because Auckland is an expensive place. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
There are other options, other places where we can have a look. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
And I think we need to give that a go. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
I don't think we should give up just yet. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
I am a bit disappointed in how they've reacted. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
I would have expected a little bit more, if I'm honest, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
and it makes me feel that they don't want to do this. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
I think they are, um... | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
-Emma's just... -They're thinking of my feelings a lot, I think, aren't they? -Yeah. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
Yeah. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
And they don't want to let me down. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
House prices in Auckland were a painful wake-up call for Viv's hopes of emigrating | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
and even though she's determined to stay positive, winning her family over looks harder than ever. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:58 | |
If her dream is to become a reality, it's vital that Darren can find good work opportunities down under. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
In the UK, Darren is a telecoms engineer. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
He earns around £25,000 a year | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and knows the risks of leaving a relatively secure job. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
The most important thing is to earn enough money to keep everything going. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
Job satisfaction is a part of it, but it's not the total thing. I've got to think about wages as well. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
To give this up, I would have to be sure that what I'm walking into is either the same or better. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:31 | |
With finances already looking tight, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
finding the right job could be vital, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
so today, Darren is visiting a large telecoms company in central Auckland. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
General manager Ross Lockwood is on hand to meet him. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
-Nice to meet you. Come on through and we'll have a chat. -Thank you. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
A good result here would be a big lift for Viv, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
but with so much at stake, it's just one piece of the puzzle. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
If the job news is good news, we've got a lot of talking to do | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
because we've still got other things to think about. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
It's definitely a step in the right direction, but there's not just myself and Darren to consider. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:10 | |
We've got three children who also need to be a part of it, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
so we'll just have to see. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
So, Ross, how similar do you think the role of my job would be to the UK? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
What you do, we have people who do exactly the same thing here, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
remembering, of course, that originally, a long time ago, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
the whole network here and the telephone exchanges were modelled on the British Telecom system. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
-There's no British Telecom equipment left here, but that's how the network was built. -OK. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
While Darren talks shop, Viv and Daniella are visiting Auckland University of Technology. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:47 | |
Daniella hopes to become a midwife and if training in Auckland was an attractive option, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
Viv's hopes of keeping the family together would get a boost. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Dr Judith McCall is a course lecturer | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
and Daniella is keen to find out if studying here could be right for her. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
How competitive is it to be given a place? | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
It's, um... Probably a rule of thumb is we take about 100 to 110 first year students | 0:25:07 | 0:25:13 | |
and probably for every one of those places, we have four applicants. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
But for young women who have a passion for it, a supportive family, they have OK grades, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:25 | |
they do really well in the programme. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Would you recognise Daniella's qualifications from the UK? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
Yeah, what would get you entrance to university there gets you entrance to university here. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
It sounds like the process of becoming a midwife down under is similar to home, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
but has Darren heard any good news from Ross? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Subject to a whole lot of things that we'd run through in a minute, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
I'd be prepared to consider you for a position here. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Now, we don't have a huge amount of business in Auckland at the moment, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
but we have work and vacancies scattered throughout the country. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
If you particularly wanted to come to Auckland, there'd be less vacancies from our perspective. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:07 | |
That's not an issue for me at all. I'm not too worried about where I come to. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
That also sounds promising, but as the family breadwinner, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
it's Darren's salary prospects that could be key. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
What would I be expected to earn with my skills? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
I've looked at the people that work in my organisation that have the same skills as you | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
and the minimum wage is £22,000 per annum and the maximum a person gets paid is about £30,000 a year. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
-And the median is about £26,000. -OK. Thank you. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
We've arranged for you to go into the field with one of our project managers and see a roadside cabinet. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:45 | |
So Darren should be able to at least match his UK salary, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
but emigrating without a pay rise might not work out if Daniella's university fees were to go up. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:55 | |
So it's about 7,000 a year for what we call domestic students. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:02 | |
For international students, it's a lot more expensive, over 20,000 a year, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
-so it would pay to get residency. -Yeah. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
So it looks like Daniella could face high course fees | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
if she can't get the right visa to live in New Zealand. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
However, she's trying to keep an open mind. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
It does sound very promising to come here and reassuring to have that option, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
but to already have the place in England, it puts another obstacle in my way. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:35 | |
And after getting hands-on with Kiwi telecoms, Darren has also had a lot to consider. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:41 | |
So has he seen enough today to vote for New Zealand? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Based on my experience today at work, my vote goes to... | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
..New Zealand. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
I was a little bit apprehensive about what I would find, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
but I'm looking at virtually the same thing as what I'm used to, nothing different at all. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:05 | |
I'm looking forward to going back to Viv tonight and telling her how well it's gone | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
because it's gone very well, better than I expected. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
After a tough start, Darren's vote for Auckland is a huge boost for Viv | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
and a day at college left Daniella with plenty to think about, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
but for a sport-loving family like the Stirks, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
it's the Kiwi outdoor lifestyle that could be key to whether they move or not. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
At home, life for the Stirks is all about getting up... | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
..getting out and getting active. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
The outdoor lifestyle there is something that everybody raves on about, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
especially Australia, but I think New Zealand would be similar. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
-I'm looking forward to getting there and seeing it for myself. -Yeah, me too. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:04 | |
So today, they're heading off to see what Auckland's great outdoors can offer them. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:10 | |
That's if Dad can get into his life jacket. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
And Ben seems happy, even if Emma might be a fish out of water. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
SHE SCREAMS I'm putting it down. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
I'm going to fall in! | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
But for Viv, this is what she came here to find - | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
a chance for the family to enjoy being outdoors together and whenever they want. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
The whole place is geared up for family life. It would be a lovely place to bring kids up. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:47 | |
I've noticed a difference in the children as the week's gone on. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
They're all starting to really get used to being here. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
-I'm already getting used to it. -Are you? -Yeah. -It's nice. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
-It's going to be a shock when we go home. -Cleckheaton? -Cleckheaton. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
The family all have their own favourite sports and Emma's is gymnastics. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
Once safely back on dry land, she has come with Daniella to see what facilities Auckland has to offer. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:19 | |
Finding a connection to Kiwi life could make emigrating a lot easier to bear. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
Now seeing the gymnastics, I feel like there's a lot more out here for me. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
Before, I didn't really feel like I'd connected with anything because I hadn't really done much, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
apart from going to see the houses, but now I'm feeling a bit more confident and excited about it all. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
But if we moved over here... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
..and couldn't really afford it and it all goes wrong | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
when our life at home is quite comfortable at the moment... | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
It's a lot to put on the line. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
The girls know just how much is at stake if the Stirks were to emigrate, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
but could the benefits make the risks worthwhile? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
The icing on the cake for a family who love rugby league most of all | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
is a chance to watch New Zealand take on Australia. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
So having sampled the lifestyle, will they vote "home" or "away"? | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
Based on the lifestyle of New Zealand compared to the UK, our vote goes to... | 0:31:34 | 0:31:41 | |
ALL: ..New Zealand. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
Everyone's voted New Zealand. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
It's been a really good game of rugby and with the added bonus of being able to be nice and warm. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:58 | |
It's perfect, really. Everything about it is absolutely spot-on. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
It's nice not to wear five jumpers, isn't it? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
A taste of the local lifestyle had exactly the effect Viv was hoping for | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
and a unanimous vote for New Zealand was a big step forward. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
But with so much hanging on their finances, can they find a way to make the numbers add up? | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
Getting the right price for their UK home in Cleckheaton will be vital if emigrating is to be affordable. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:33 | |
The Stirks believe it is worth £140,000, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
but will two local estate agents agree? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
A nice living room. A good focal point for the house, really. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
Modern kitchen, very light, very airy, opening on to the garden which is excellent. It's a nice room. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:51 | |
A very good-sized garden. They've landscaped it. It's very nice. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
They obviously spend a lot of time out here. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
Again very well decorated. Two sharing, I presume it's a teenagers' bedroom. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
The space isn't massive, but they've got the best use out of it. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
So what will be the second original bedroom they're using as the master bedroom, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
utilising the space of the room there with the fitted wardrobes, just exactly what you need. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:24 | |
What I'd expect from a third bedroom is this. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
I don't think anybody would want any more from a third bedroom. It's not a boxroom by any means. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:35 | |
Overall, excellent family house. It's been extended, so you've got a lot of space downstairs. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:41 | |
Within half a mile of the M62 which is great for commuters. A good residential area. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
My valuation today, as an asking price, would be 125,000 | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
to probably achieve around 120. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
In my opinion, in the current market, this house is worth 125,000. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
For a quick sale, you'd probably be looking at 115. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
-Hmm. -That's a long way under... -Less. -A lot less. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
-Not good, is it? -No. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
-With the work that's gone into that house and the extension, I'm quite shocked. -Me too. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:20 | |
It's amazing how your feelings can just come down so much, isn't it? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
You want to go to New Zealand to better your life, but the way things are going, you'd be making it harder. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:33 | |
Those house valuations are far less than Viv and Darren had hoped for. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
Once again, finances are looking like they could be key to emigrating. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
We've provided a comparison of the family's cost of living at home and in New Zealand | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
to help them work out if they can afford to live down under or not. First, it's the weekly shopping. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:53 | |
-It looks quite expensive. -Milk's expensive. -We go through a lot of milk. -Meat's about the same. -Yeah. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:59 | |
Lager's slightly more expensive. Wine's similar. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
So in the UK... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
..101 a week. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
125. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
That's nearly £25 a week more, isn't it? | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
-And we don't go shopping just once a week, do we? -No. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
There's little bits and bobs - milk three times a week, bread sometimes every day. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
That's not the best start, but it's the family's mortgage payments that could be crucial. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
They've based them on a £200,000 mortgage with a £60,000 deposit. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
-And the repayments would be £804 a month. -£804 a month. -Yeah. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
Right, but ours is 210. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
That's what we're paying now, what our house is costing us now. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Their monthly mortgage has just gone through the roof | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
and that's without including the cost of relocating. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
Looking at these figures now then, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
we would actually be about £634 worse off living in New Zealand, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
-so do you think this move's affordable? -No. -Definitely not? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:11 | |
No. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
Oh, dear. I'll have to start doing the Lottery, see if I'm lucky in that. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
As much as Viv might want this, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
it looks like moving to New Zealand could be a serious financial risk for the Stirks, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:27 | |
so based on the numbers, how will they vote? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
-UK. -The UK. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
I'd love to live here. There's no doubt about that. It's a beautiful place. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
The weather and the lifestyle is fantastic, but you've got to be able to afford it as well. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
-We're not rich enough, are we? -No, we're not rich enough. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
-Poor northerners. -Poor northerners. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
Never mind. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Despite putting on a brave face, the figures look hard to argue with | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
and once again Viv's dreams hang in the balance, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
so will watching messages from home put an end to them for good? | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
There are messages for everyone, so the whole family have decided to watch them together. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:25 | |
Hi, everybody. I hope you're having a great time out there. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
-Hi! -Hiya from Mum's house. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Hiya, Daniella, Emma, Ben, Darren, Viv. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
Out of the three of them, I would say Daniella could cause a problem. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
She'll want to please her mum and dad, but also her boyfriend | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
who she's been going out with for three years which is a long time. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
I were married at 19. It's the same age as what Daniella is now. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
I love my family | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
beyond measure. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
If they do go, I would miss them so much. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
I know I'm not going to be happy, but I've just got to accept it and hope they have a nice life | 0:38:06 | 0:38:13 | |
and everything turns out nice and well for them. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
Their going would leave a void that would be impossible to fill. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
I think we'd be bereft, wouldn't we? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
-Sorry. -SHE SOBS | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
It's a prospect that I don't really want to contemplate. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
Hello, everyone. I hope you're all having a good time. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
I hope you're enjoying it. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
I'm missing you a lot, Daniella. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
I don't want you to go, really, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
but that's completely up to you, obviously. I can't stop you, but... | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
I'd really miss you if you went. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
I'd like you to stay, but the decision's yours. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
Don't come to any hasty decisions. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
And just enjoy it while you're out there. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
You can understand where they're coming from. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Their views and opinions are natural, aren't they? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
You don't want to sound selfish by saying you've got to live your life for yourself, but you have. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:27 | |
Hmm. Do you think any of them will lend us any money? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
I really don't know. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Seeing the people they love was a reminder for the Stirks | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
that the real cost of emigrating isn't counted in dollars | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
and having fallen for the lifestyle, they know how much New Zealand could offer them as a family. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:56 | |
So with their week over, will they vote with their hearts or with their heads? | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
The week has been absolutely fantastic. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
There's been a couple of emotional times, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
but generally, for me, it's been very fulfilling. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
It's a lovely place. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
It's just a perfect place to live... | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
if you could afford it. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
We've come here ten years too late. There's a lot of obstacles | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
that wouldn't have been there ten years ago that are there now - financial and personal. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:37 | |
I did really hope that Daniella would come round to our way of thinking. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:43 | |
I honestly do believe that she's shut her feelings off since we've been here | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
purely because Danny's in her life. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
I came with an open mind, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
but deep, deep down I am more pointed to the UK because of everything that you have got to lose. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:01 | |
If they were nine, six and two, that would be different, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
but they're teenagers and they've got their own plans now to a point. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
There's no way I could ever leave Danny, like... | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
I'm happy where I am. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
I can't see myself with anybody else. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
So it does change things, obviously. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
It's been an eye-opening week for the Stirks, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
but will emotional and financial costs end this dream or has a taste of life down under convinced them | 0:41:27 | 0:41:33 | |
that the biggest gamble of their lives could be worth it? | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
Based on our week in New Zealand, our vote goes to... | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
-..New Zealand. -New Zealand. -UK. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
-Three to two, we're outvoted. -Yeah. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
So why did you choose UK, Ben? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
This is a beautiful country, but I'd just miss family too much. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
I can see myself living here because it is a very nice place, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
but I'm still a bit undecided and, like you said, go with your heart and my heart says UK. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:16 | |
Why have you chosen New Zealand? | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
In my heart, I do feel that if we really wanted to give it a go, we could find the perfect property. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:24 | |
And I have enjoyed this experience so much that it's going to be really hard, I think, for me to walk away. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:34 | |
I really do. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:35 | |
There are no easy answers in choosing a future that's right for your family | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
and after experiencing the highs and lows of emigrating, the Stirks still have some thinking to do. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:49 | |
But with Viv well and truly won over, I don't think this story is quite over yet. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:54 | |
We wish them all the best. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
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