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The members of the jury reached a verdict. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
We, the jury, find the defendant guilty | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
of first-degree murder of Derek William Reginald Haysom | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
and Nancy Astor Haysom | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
and fix punishment and imprisonment for life. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
-Why didn't you say anything? -Do you still say you're innocent? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
Anything else? | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
All right, everybody out of the way. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Move it, please. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
Get back on the sidewalk. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
I was the investigator for the Sheriff's Office. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
It was around three o'clock that Wednesday afternoon we got the call, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
it came over the radio. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
'Ricky was there, too. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
'Ricky and I worked side-by-side, hand-in-hand.' | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
Chuck Reid and I lived this case. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
It was the amount of overkill that was involved and the amount of blood | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
that was there. It was just... | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
I'd never seen anything like that before. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Stepped inside and it was like stepping inside of a slaughterhouse. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
You know, "What gang of people did this?" | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Mr Haysom was lying face up, just inside the door. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
I had to step over him and go into the dining room, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
and it was covered in dried blood. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
And on the kitchen floor, Miss Haysom was lying deceased. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
Upstairs, in Miss Haysom's room, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
we found some photos of Elizabeth, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
her daughter, in the nude. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
She was kneeling down at the side of her bed like she was praying. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
In front of her was a Shakespeare book. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
The photos were taken kind of from the side. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
We just had heard, you know, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
the kind of relationship between her and her mother. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Miss Haysom, you refer to yourself as Lady Macbeth. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-Yes. -Your Shakespeare is certainly much better than mine, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
but it seems to me, if I recall, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:57 | |
Lady Macbeth encouraged old Macbeth to commit murder, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-didn't she? -Yes, she did. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Miss Haysom, in the police sentencing reports, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
you make some statement that you had a full-blown sexual relationship | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
with your mother at one point... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Could you answer that, please? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
You did state you had | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
a full-blown sexual relationship with your mother? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
I didn't put it that way, no, sir. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
-How did you put it? -Well, the investigator asked me about | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
photographs that my mother took of me. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
Miss Haysom, your mother has been butchered. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
-Yes, she has, sir. -You called her a liar and an alcoholic. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
-I did not call her an alcoholic. -Was she a sexual abuser? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
Did she sexually abuse you? | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
If she didn't, for God's sake, clear her name now. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
She did not sexually abuse me. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
Thank you. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
-Hey! -Hey, Chuck. -How are you all doing? -Great to see you, man. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-Good to see you. -Yeah, come on in! | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
The last time I was in here, it was a mess. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
Mr Haysom was here. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
He was laying right here. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
Miss Haysom was right here, her head was right here. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
She was laying like this. And, supposedly... | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
..Jens was supposedly over here | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
and got up and walked around behind Mr Haysom. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
And cut across his throat this way. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
-The thing that came up is Haysom abusing Elizabeth. -Mm-hm. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
We found five or six pictures of Elizabeth... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
totally in the nude. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
Supposedly, her mother did that. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Jens Soering, he was so possessed over that girl, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
she did nothing but use the boy. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
She used him... I think she used him to get to her parents. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
-I call it the way it is and the way I see it. -Mm-hm. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Then you can decide for yourself. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
I'll never forget the night we luminoled it. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
If you know what luminol is... It's a spray. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
If you bleed on this table, someone can come in here, wipe it up, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
six months from now, come in and spray luminol on it | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
and you'll see a greenish, bluish glow. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Ricky was upstairs and all of a sudden, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
bluish-green footprints you could see just step outside the door, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
just started appearing and going across the grass. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Derek WR Haysom and his wife Nancy | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
were stabbed to death in their home Monday. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
The bodies were discovered at their Holcomb Rock Road home. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Haysom is a Canadian resident and a prominent Nova Scotia businessman. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
No motive at all has been determined. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Paul Freifeld, News 13. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
"My dearest Jens, the days go slowly. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
"It is time to risk all for the truth. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
"You will not forgive me. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
"Hate me, hit me, whatever. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
"But please, hug me when we meet. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
"Promise me, Jens, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
"whatever it takes now, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
"promise me you will not let me ruin your life. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
"I have seriously fucked up on mine, don't let me destroy yours. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
"This is the first real and good thing I have ever done. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
"I would kill myself if I discovered | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
"that you were compromising yourself for me. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
"Don't do it. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
"I love you. Elizabeth." | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Where did you go to school? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
I went to Wycombe Abbey in England. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Wycombe was considered one of the most prestigious schools in England. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
How much contact did you have with your mother and father? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
They never came to... | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
..to my... | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
successes or failures while I was at school. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
They never saw me play a lacrosse match. They never saw me perform. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
I started having some problems at school. My father adored me. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
And...he saw me as being perfect. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
'I was a reporter with the Richmond Times-Dispatch newspaper' | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
and I covered western Virginia. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
When we heard about the Haysoms' double murder, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
at that time, they thought it was just a random killing. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
And the story began for me right there, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
starting with the mysterious murder | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
of two very well-known, prominent people. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
It was a big, big story in Virginia, and Elizabeth is... | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Number one, she was a very unconventional beauty. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
I mean, she wasn't your standard beauty. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
And I think she had a way of speaking and a charm about her | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
that attracted a lot of people. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
And I don't know exactly what that charm was. It was a bit of... | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
When she walked into a room, you straightened your spine a bit, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
because she just seemed like she knew a lot. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
She was very worldly, very articulate, smart, obviously. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
I spoke to my parents about changing my A-level subjects. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
And my father said it was nonsense. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
-I'm sorry, your father said what? -It was nonsense. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
I... I completely overreacted. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
I... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
I threw everything up, I ran away. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
I was using drugs extensively. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
What types of drugs were you using? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
A lot of LSD, and I was doing a lot of heroin. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
-What...? -Heroin. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
'At the same time, you could tell that she lied.' | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
She was a good liar, she lied, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
but you could tell simply that she was used to lying. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
And she'd been a drug addict, which she admitted, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
and, of course, drug addicts often learn how to lie very well | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
and often can't stop themselves. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
So I think the number one thing I would take away from it is that, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
for her, she was a beautiful, charming liar. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
I wrote a poem for my mother. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
She always wanted me to write poems about her or to her. For her. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
And I was now falling into this role | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
of again playing the perfect daughter, of being... | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
..social and charming. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
And I was being taken around and exhibited. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
I wanted to find out what was going wrong with my life and instead, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
I was... I was paraded. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
They controlled every aspect of what I was doing. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
My mother would turn up at odd hours of the day and night | 0:11:25 | 0:11:32 | |
in my dorm room to check on me and what I was doing. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
And I know she was doing it out of love, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
and she was concerned. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
And I suppose I took it the wrong way. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
I was resentful of this attention. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
What is your first recollection of Jens? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
I met him...the... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
..the very first day I was there. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
It was a barbecue for the scholars in the evening, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
and I was introduced to him. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
And, um... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
..my very first thought of him was that he was very rude, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
he was very hostile, he was very aggressive. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
But he was also very brilliant. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
He was introduced to me as the Jefferson Scholar and as a German. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
And I think...that appealed to me. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
Some writing that you made, is that right? | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
Yes. It's a letter in diary form, I suppose. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
Where was this written? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
This was written at Loose Chippings in Lynchburg. Holcomb Rock Road. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
-That's your home? -Yes. Writing is the way I express myself. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
I expose my heart on paper. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I shared everything with him, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
and...I shared this with him. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
"My dearest Jens. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
"A day of raining loneliness. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
"This morning, I built my father a desk for his computer. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
"I didn't smoke. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
"My parents began to drink." | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
I think I was trying to tell him that... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
I was unhappy. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
He always described how unhappy he was at home, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
and I was describing to him that we all have strife at home | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
at various times. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
I expressed this. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
"I bought cigarettes. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
"My father fell down. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
"I prayed." | 0:15:34 | 0:15:35 | |
I got carried away on many occasions. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
It all becomes very surreal. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
Would it be possible to hypnotise my parents, do voodoo on them? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
-"Do voodoo on them." -Will them to death. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
"Will them to death. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
"It seems my concentration on their death is causing them problems. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
"My father nearly drove over a cliff. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
"And my mother fell into a fire. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
"I think I shall seriously take up black magic." | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
I expressed this very cruelly, very forcefully. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
"I want to be with you, around you, in you, through you, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
"tied to you forever and ever. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
"Please, my darling Jens. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
"Oh, I love and miss you. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
"Elizabeth." | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
Larry, this is Carlos Santos with the Fluvanna Review. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
I'm trying to interview Elizabeth Haysom. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
If you could help me get a request in to her, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
I'd appreciate the return call. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
She'd be on our cover, I'll tell you that. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Thanks, bye. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
I'd love to talk to her. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
I'd run down there in a heartbeat. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
The whole motive never made sense. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
When you set up your theory, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
you see things in the light of those theories. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
And so something like what Elizabeth said, you know, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
"We both belong here." She didn't say he belonged in prison, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
she said, "We both belong here." | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
You know, there's a ring of truth to that. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
He was angry with my parents that... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
they weren't providing me with sufficient funds and they were | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
supposed to be so incredibly wealthy, which is not true. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
He wanted to go down to my parents' home and to sort it out with them. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:44 | |
What did you say? | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
That I could kill them. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
At the bottom of page six, would you refer to that, please? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
"Dear Liz. I love you. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
"Je t'aime. Ich liebe dich. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
"How do you feel about a couple of drinks back at my place? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
"I have this new Jacuzzi - wild, baby, wild. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
"It's me again, the Jens, lying in his bed at 22 minutes past midnight. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
"Ghosts dancing all around." | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
"Were I to meet your parents, I have the ultimate weapon. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
"Strange things are happening within me." | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
"I'm turning more and more into a Christ figure. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
"I believe I would either make them completely lose their wits, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
"get heart attacks, or they would become lovers of the world. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
"Love is a form of meditation, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
"and the ultimate weapon against your parents. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
"My God, how I've got the dinner scene planned out. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
"In the meantime, I love you as totally as I can for right now. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
"Your Jens." | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
What did you do after he left? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
As soon as he was gone, I went to a bar next door. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
I bought some drinks and I scored a couple of grams of heroin. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
The fact that I hated my mother so much, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
I feel responsible for that hate and pulling Jens into it. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
Allowing him, in a sense, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
as I feel now, to have killed my parents. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
-Did you go to Lynchburg? -Did I go to Lynchburg? No. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
CHEERING | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
-ALL: Y! -What's that spell?! | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
ROCKY! | 0:19:25 | 0:19:26 | |
When Jens returned to Washington that Saturday night, what did he say to you? | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
I was at The Rocky Horror Picture Show, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
and I came out of the show and I waited on the side. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
He drove up - he was on the other side of the road. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
And I crossed through the traffic. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
And when I opened the car door, the light inside the car came on. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:55 | |
And he was... | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
wearing some kind of white sheet, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
and he was covered in blood from head to toe. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
So I got into the car, we drove back to the Marriott Hotel, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
and he said that he'd killed my parents. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
I was stunned by the situation. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
It was so huge, so overwhelming, so definite, so final. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
It's extraordinary. I mean, Jens is just... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
He's a wimp. You can't imagine him doing something like that. It's extraordinary. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
Jens Soering was mad. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
He hated the Haysoms. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
He says that he went there trying to reason with them, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
because she had filled his head with all these ideas about how much | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
she hated her parents | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
and that he couldn't have anything to do with her, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
and he wanted that more than anything. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
He wanted that more than a Jefferson Scholarship, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
he wanted that more than anything. He wanted Elizabeth. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
# In a little honky-tonky village in Texas | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
# There's a guy who plays the best piano by far... # | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
I was hired by an attorney by the name of Gail Ball. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
She didn't think that Jens Soering was guilty of this. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
And I felt there's a lot of things missing. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
And this is the footprint. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
It says, "University of Virginia Police Department". | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Oh, my dear. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
This is a sad one. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
This is Mrs Haysom's, what she was wearing. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
'Richmond FBI.' | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
Uh, yes, ma'am, this is Chuck Reid. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
I'm trying to contact a former agent of yours, Ed Sulzbach. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
He was doing a profile for me on a murder case. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
'Uh-huh.' | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
I got a phone call from the Sheriff in Bedford County. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
And the different sheriffs and chiefs around the state of Virginia | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
knew me and knew that I was a profiler. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
And I drove out to Bedford County. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
My mission was to study the crime | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
and come up with possible suspects. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
And Mrs Haysom was wearing her nightgown with a robe, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
and it occurred to me that Mrs Haysom would never entertain | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
strangers in such attire. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
Who might be close enough to her that she would feel comfortable entertaining in a nightgown, a robe? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:50 | |
We're dealing with, uh... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
somebody who's close to these people. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
And that, I suggested to the investigators. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
'I settled on a daughter, because Mrs Haysom was a very proper woman. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
'And I came to the conclusion pretty quickly that it was someone they knew very well.' | 0:23:04 | 0:23:10 | |
Ed, did you all do any paperwork on that? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
You and another agent did a psychological profile for us. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
'Yeah. I remember that well. Contact the Richmond office. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
'They can pull the file. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
'Person I suggest to talk to is Debbie Propst - P-R-O-P-S-T.' | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
Dave, this is the letter from Bedford County Sheriff's Department. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
-Uh-huh. -In reference to the FBI criminal profile, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Major Ricky Gardner insisted there was no profile conducted. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
And it's official letterhead. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
-Hello? -'Hi, man.' -Ricky, how you doing? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
'Chuck, they're coming back now. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
'Chuck, we never did an FBI profile. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
-Yeah, we did. -'No, we didn't.' | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
It was Ed Sulzbach and another special agent. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
See, that's how I got to know Ed. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
Chuck Reid absolutely misspoke | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
when he said there was never any profile done on this case. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
There was never a profile done in this case. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Now, I don't know how nobody ever wrote anything down... | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
'Chuck, if we had done one of those, that would have been exculpatory evidence.' | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
To be honest with you, I have a copy of some old field reports and stuff. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
'But, obviously, there was nothing mentioned in the...' | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
-The profile... -'The profile.' | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Yeah, yeah, it's in there. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
It's stating that Special Agent Ed Sulzbach did the psychological profile | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
and came back to a female acquaintance, and... | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
It's four or five different things that's in there. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
'So you think they have thrown one out?' | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Yeah, I know they have. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:41 | |
The FBI never throws anything away. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
It's somewhere in the FBI's vast... | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
'It's still there somewhere.' | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Thank you, John. Ms Haysom. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
You went there and cleaned up the blood, didn't you? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
You went to the house to mop up the... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
I never wiped up any blood in the house. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Professional cleaners mopped up the blood. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
But the fact is, Ms Haysom, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
that you insisted on going back to the house and cleaning yourself. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
That's not correct, sir. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
If Howard Haysom, your brother, said that that is indeed the case, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
-would you disagree with him? -Yes, I would. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Did you also make the statement that as you were cleaning round the fireplace, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
that one of your friends heard, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
"There's Pop's brains, just cleaning up Pop's brains"? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
It's rather inaccurate. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
It was not around the fireplace, it was around a door. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
Excuse me, I'm not interested in where it was, I'm interested in whether... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Well, we're supposed to be dealing here with accuracy. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
What happened, what did not happen. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Thank you, then. You did make the statement nevertheless. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
What I said, and what happened... | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
I was doing some cleaning and there was... | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
several hairs from my father's head on the door. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
And I was sick. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
So we drove to Charlottesville to talk to Elizabeth at the University of Virginia Police Department. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
I asked, I said, "How can we get a hold of this Jens fella? | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
"We need," you know, "we need to talk to him." | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
I'll never forget sitting in the office the day that Sunday | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
that Ricky and I was interviewing him. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
In my mind, I'm thinking to myself, "This boy... | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
"There's no way this little boy could've done something like that." | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
So when he left that day, he told me, he said, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
"Look, let me go back to university. I'll think about it." | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
And on Wednesday, the 9th, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
October the 9th, he said, "I'll give you a call | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
"and let you know what I've decided to do." | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
I got a call about ten o'clock Sunday night. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
The same time Ricky did. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
That we needed to get to Charlottesville, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
that Elizabeth and Jens had skipped the country. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
I was working at that weekend in which Jens's father called me. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
Jens is the same age as my middle child. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
They were in prep school in Atlanta. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
The boys were about 11 or 12. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
Jens's father was a high government official | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
in the German consular court in Atlanta. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
He said, "I have a problem, would you pick me up at the airport?" | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
I said, "Of course I will." | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
-VOICE CRACKS: -It was an awful day. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
We travelled to the University of Virginia from here, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
which is about an hour and a half. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
I'm sorry for this. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:38 | |
But we got to the University of Virginia, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
and on the way over, he told me what had happened. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
"Dear officers Reid and Gardner. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
"I'm certain that sooner or later, you'll become involved in whatever | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
"investigation may be made into my disappearance. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
"I tried to save you some effort by including photocopies of the letters | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
"I'm leaving for family and friends. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
"But undoubtedly, you will travel extensively through my belongings anyway. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
"Please try to leave them in a decent state | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
"and return them to my parents. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
"They may want to keep them. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
"I assume that especially you, Mr Gardner, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
"will be very excited by now, which is why I hate to disappoint you. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
"Unfortunately for you, I really am leaving, for the reason | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
"I discussed in my letter to my parents. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
"I suggest that you continue your investigation as before. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
"Undoubtedly, you will find who you're looking for. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
"From what Liz has told me of what you discovered at Loose Chippings, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
"I can only say that I'm incapable of such a thing. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
"There's still much to do, so I must say goodbye. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
"Try to be kind to my parents - they're going to have a tough enough | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
"time without you gentlemen. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
"Sincerely, Jens Soering." | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Jens had left the University of Virginia, and I saw Klaus collapse. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
He essentially dissolved. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Because at that point, he realised how terribly serious this was. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
"Dear Mum, Dad and Kai. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
"I'm writing you to tell you that I sincerely love you, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
"and that the pain I'm probably causing you is also causing me great suffering. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
"As you know, I've not been happy at school for a very long time. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
"There's a fundamental and deep difference between me and almost everyone else here." | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
His mother was shattered. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
I mean, you would have to think of glass. Just crumbs. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
"I love you and I will be in touch, though probably not soon. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
"The car keys are in the brown business folder in Liz's bedroom." | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
Jens said it would become clearer to his father shortly | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
why they had left the University of Virginia. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
"There's a chance that certain officers, Reid and Gardner, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
"will interpret my leaving as being connected with the death of Liz's parents. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
"It is for their benefit that this letter is in English. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
"They have a voyeuristic tendency to read other people's personal mail anyway. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
"I can almost certainly guarantee you that I did not do what they may think I did. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
"And Kai, take the Scirocco and the two accounts and find yourself a good college. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
"And for Christ's sake, don't become a dentist." | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
His father is a broken man. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
His mother's dead. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
His brother has essentially divorced him. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
He has nothing left. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:44 | |
According to Scotland Yard, they questioned the 23-year-old | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
Haysom girl and 19-year-old Jens Soering today | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
at the Richmond Police Station in south-west London. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
The two were arrested for writing about 6,000 in bad cheques. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
Haysom and Soering may also be involved in drug trafficking. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
May the 25th of 1986, I received a telephone call | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
from a detective constable, Terry Wright, in London, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
and he asked me if I had any interest in Jens or Elizabeth Haysom. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
And I said, "Sure, I do." | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
And the second question he asked me was, he said, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
"Are her parents dead?" | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
And I said, "Yes, they are." | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
And he said, "Well, let me ask you, were they murdered?" | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
And I said, "Yes." | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
And he said, "Well, perhaps you might want to fly over to London. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
"I believe we have the murderers locked up here and you may want to come over and talk to them." | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
You know, I'm not believing this is happening. I said, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
"You stay right where you are and I will call you back within an hour. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
"Don't move, don't leave the phone, I will call you right back." | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
You know, "Who are you again?" | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
So I drove up to the courthouse, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
to Commonwealth's Attorney Jim Updike's office. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
And I started telling him, "I just got off the phone | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
"and he told me Jens and Elizabeth are in jail in England and we've got to go over there." | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
Today, we've presented indictments on both Jens | 0:34:46 | 0:34:52 | |
and Elizabeth for murder of their parents. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
We landed at Heathrow Airport early Tuesday morning | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
and the detective constable and a sergeant met us. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Within five minutes, they started pulling out the letters. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
So over the next couple of days, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
we interviewed Jens and Elizabeth four or five times. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
"Dear sweetie, I love you so very much. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
"The first chunk is the long promised dirty letter to get you in a good mood. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
"The room is lit only by two candles. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
"And with my best Nazi voice, I slowly say, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
" 'You are going nowhere, my liebchen. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
" 'Tonight, you're my prisoner of love.' | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
"We kiss each other deeply now, our tongues playing with each other. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
"I move to your clitoris | 0:36:26 | 0:36:27 | |
"and you let out a small moan as my tongue massages | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
"the flesh between the clitoris and the vagina." | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
"Sweetie pie, I can't wait to get you all to myself. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
"I want to sit on your lap and feel your finger. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
"I love you." | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
"The nasty in our past could be too much to block out. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
"But you will overcome this experience, because you want a good, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
"strong fuck and a two-hour licking from the guy who loves you. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
"You are in a horrible position, more horrible than mine. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
"Let me clear a couple of things up. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
"Erase all written evidence of Bedford. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
"Cross it out. That's all I have time for, sweetie. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
"Always trust me, always love me." | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
"I've been upset, scared, lonely, worried. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
"You won't leave me to take the rap alone. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
"If I go to Germany and get convicted, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
"I will go away for only a few years and your trial will not be | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
"a hyped up publicity thing, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
"since the star attraction, me, is missing. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
"Your parole board will give you an early parole, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
"especially when they take my early release into consideration. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
"So in a few years, we will hopefully both be out and together. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
"Trust me and go with the flow. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
"Forever yours, Jens." | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
When Sergeant Beever confronted me in the cell with | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
Jens's statement, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
he was very careful to tell me | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
a couple of details | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
about Jens's statement. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
My response was anger that Jens had let me down. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
While I was... | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
continuing to cover up for him. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
So you were mad at him, | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
so you just decided to put him in it a little bit deeper? | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
After they had confessed in London, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
she wrote Jens a letter. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Elizabeth wrote Jens a letter severing their relationship | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
and she said, "Look, I'm going to go back to Virginia. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
"I'm going to admit to my part in my parents' death. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
"I don't love you any more." | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
You know, "You're on your own." | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
Elizabeth Haysom has told prosecutors | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
she would be willing to testify against her former boyfriend, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
Jens Soering. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:13 | |
Virginia prosecutors are still trying to get Soering back | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
to Virginia to face capital murder charges. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
When I came over here, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
I believed that if I was convicted of this murder with Jens, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
that he would also have to be convicted | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
and that he would not be able to get a second degree murder conviction. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
And worst of all, I stayed with him. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
And worst of all, I stayed with him willingly. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
What I want you to realise is that Jens acted of his own free will. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
He had a choice. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
He had a choice. He had a full hour drive. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
I never believed he would do that to my parents. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
I still can hardly believe it. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
No matter what I said to him, no matter what I had written to him, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
he had a choice whether he killed my parents or not. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Welcome to Larry King Live! | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Is Elizabeth Haysom a beautiful and intelligent murderer? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Or the victim of an obsessive relationship | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
with a cold-blooded killer? | 0:42:34 | 0:42:35 | |
Our guests are Dr Robert Showalter, psychiatrist, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
and Ken Englade, author of the new book, Beyond Reason, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
the story of the shocking murder in a sleepy Virginia town. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
You think what of her? | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
She probably developed symptoms that we call | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
clinically borderline personality disorder very early in life. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:57 | |
Elizabeth kept telling us over and over again, | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
"I was never allowed to think for myself. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
"I could never do anything for myself." | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
She could not even socialise. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
If she were invited to a party, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
she will be escorted to the party by a chauffeur, left off, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
picked up in 30 minutes. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
-This gets bizarrer and bizarrer. -Oh, it's incredible, yeah. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
Long Island, New York, hello? | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
Was there sexual intercourse between you and this man | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
who had butchered your parents, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
and after you had attended their very own funeral? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:29 | |
You go to the funeral, you take Jens Soering with you and Christine Kim? | 0:43:29 | 0:43:34 | |
Yes. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:35 | |
On the very night of the funeral, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:36 | |
you and Jens Soering make love, don't you? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
I was in a separate room, in a single bed, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
sharing that room with Christine, my roommate. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
Jens came to me and he said that he needed me | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
and that he was lonely, he was scared. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
And I went with him and, up until this time, | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
he had been completely and totally impotent. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
And I got into bed with him, and I woke up, sir. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
He was making love to me. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:05 | |
Making love to you. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:08 | |
Why did your parents die? | 0:44:26 | 0:44:27 | |
My parents died... | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
..because Jens and I were obsessed with each other. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
And he was...jealous of anything else in my life. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
While all of the testimony is shocking, | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
the biggest shock of the day came when Haysom's two brothers, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
Richard and Howard, took the stand. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
She has lied to me in the past. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
And...and, frankly, continues to lie. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
I personally am not satisfied with the explanation | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
that her guilty plea provided. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
I think Elizabeth was in the house at the time of the crime. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
We have an obligation to society | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
to show to people what the consequences of such a crime are. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
I, therefore, would want to see... | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
..the most severest penalty possible. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
I cannot imagine a crime more vile | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
than participating in the killing of the very people | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
that gave birth to you, that raised you, that cared for you | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
when you couldn't care for yourself. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
I have been on the bench for 22 years. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
Most of the time, cases do not bother me too much. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
But I have lost some sleep over this one. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
Many of Elizabeth's accusations against her parents, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
particularly her mother, were the product of fantasy. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
She helped create a fertile field for rumours. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
Elizabeth Haysom has pled guilty to two offences | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
which each carry maximum life sentences. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
Miss Haysom, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
I sentence you to 45 years in prison on each charge, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
the sentences to run consecutively - a total of 90 years. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
If my sister had been convicted of capital murder, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
I could have... | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
loved her, hugged her and kissed her, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
and walked her to the electric chair if that was what the law called for. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
Jens's father, Klaus, said, "I need to get Jens a lawyer." | 0:48:10 | 0:48:15 | |
The key lawyer had already been hired by Elizabeth. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
I got the names of three major criminal lawyers in Virginia. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:23 | |
Each of them, as I recall, said | 0:48:23 | 0:48:24 | |
about a half a million dollars - US, cash, upfront. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:29 | |
I never heard further, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
until Klaus called and said that he had hired Richard Neaton, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
who was a Detroit lawyer. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
Mr Neaton had been referred to the Soering family | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
by somebody at the consulate. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
I did not know Mr Neaton. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:45 | |
The defence will call its witness. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
Call Jens Soering. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:54 | |
Raise your right hand. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony that you shall give | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
I do. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:06 | |
Prior to today, have you had any opportunity to testify under oath | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
about the events of that day? | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
No, I haven't. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:18 | |
I'd like to call your attention to that day. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
Did you go to the home of Derek and Nancy Haysom | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
and kill Mr and Mrs Haysom? | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
No. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
MURMURING | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
On March 30, 1985, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
were you Washington, DC? | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
Yes, on a Saturday. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
Elizabeth had basically gotten into debt with a person both of us knew, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
called Jim Farmer, who she'd been buying drugs from at UVA, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
and she told me that Jim Farmer had asked her to pick up a package | 0:49:44 | 0:49:49 | |
from somebody he knew in Washington, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
and drive back down to Charlottesville. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
Jim Farmer's parents also lived in Lynchburg | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
and she told me that the families knew each other socially. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
Her parents were very worried about Elizabeth using drugs, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
because she'd used a lot of drugs in the past. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
At that point, she said the only way I can help her | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
would be for me to function as her alibi. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
Hmm. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
Yeah. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:36 | |
James Farmer. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
There you go, right here. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
He's got a criminal record. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:42 | |
But it's probably traffic. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Oh! No. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:47 | |
Possession of a controlled substance. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
He got jail time, too. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:52 | |
Did she ask you to do anything specific? | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
Well, she asked me... | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
You'll have heard already, | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
to go and buy two tickets to a film, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
and then meet her at the hotel afterwards. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
Hello, my name is Dave Watson. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
I'm trying to get a hold of Mr James Farmer. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
You say your son is ill, do you know how I can reach him? | 0:51:31 | 0:51:35 | |
Back in the '80s, I was a police officer up in Northern Virginia. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Right. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:41 | |
You were a judge, where, in Bedford? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
What I want to do is talk with him to see what his relationship was | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
with this girl, Elizabeth. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
You know what I'm talking about, or...? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
OK. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
Jens Soering testified that Elizabeth was going to meet Jim that night. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:02 | |
I think that was part of her alibi. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
That... OK. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
All right. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:09 | |
Is there any way that I'd be able to talk with your son? | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
PHONE HANGS UP | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
His son did give her a ride to Lynchburg one time. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
He was friends with the Haysoms, the parents. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
We knew that Elizabeth had gotten a ride home with him. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
But on the weekend that they were murdered, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
Jim Farmer's name was never mentioned in any...in any scenario, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
until the trial of Jens Soering in... Five years later. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
So how could we have asked him anything | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
if we didn't know it at the time? | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
I mean, this is coulda, shoulda, woulda hindsight. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
Jens and Elizabeth rented a car! | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
Jim Farmer's name was not on the rental car. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
She never said anything about it. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:03 | |
He never said to me, Jim, well, that was... I... | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
Jim Farmer drove... | 0:53:06 | 0:53:07 | |
When did...? | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
I don't know, I mean... | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
After you agreed to do this, did she drive off? | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
Well, we got in the car, and she just drove me down to the theatre | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
that was playing Witness. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
-How many tickets? -I bought two tickets, as per plan. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
And approximately what time of the afternoon was this? | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
About five o'clock. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
After the film was over, what did you do? | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
Caught a taxi back to the hotel. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
I cashed a cheque at the front desk of the hotel, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
using the credit card as a guarantee. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
They write the number on the back, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:37 | |
and that guarantees that the cheque will be paid. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
Did you sign for it? | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
Yes, I did, that was the point. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
Did you stay in the room? | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
For a while, yes. But not very long. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
Because in case she didn't come back, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
I should then continue with this alibi production business. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
When you got back to the hotel, was she there? | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
No, she wasn't. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:26 | |
It was around two o'clock, I guess. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
She came to the room, knocked, stormed past me into the room. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
She started basically repeating the same things over and over again. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
"I've killed my parents, I've killed my parents." | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
You know, "It wasn't me, it was the drugs that made me do it." | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
"You've got to help me. If you don't help me, they'll kill me." | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
I had to protect her. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
I could not turn her in. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
Were you in love with her then? | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
Well, of course. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:00 | |
And... | 0:55:00 | 0:55:01 | |
I loved the girl. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
And I almost saw her as a sort of third victim of this...tragedy | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
that apparently had happened. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
It is a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
We basically expected the police to arrive within the next few hours. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
And we thought, we have to make a decision now, come up with a plan, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
how I would have done it, and what for me to tell the police | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
to make the whole story believable. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
The script of what had happened that day. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
Give the jury an example of how that conversation took place. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
For example, what happened at the house, what was her mother doing? | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
Your Honour, I asked the defendant what his position was. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
His position, as far as what happened, and, Your Honour, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
he maintained the position throughout, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
and his position was that he killed Derek and Nancy Haysom. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
And he admitted that. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
And I feel, Your Honour, that that's improper. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
That you cannot take a position earlier in a legal proceeding | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
and then later take one that is entirely different. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
It's not proper and it's not honest. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
October 4, 1986. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
You state that there came a point when you became angry. | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
That you stood up, Mr Haysom pushed you back into the corner, | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
and that you bumped your head? | 0:58:05 | 0:58:06 | |
That's what I said here, yes. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
That you grabbed a knife, and that you came around behind Mr Haysom? | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
That's what I said. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:13 | |
And that you cut him across the neck, left to right. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
-You stated that? -That's what I said here, yes. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
You know, it's very well-known that people have confessed to crimes | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
that they didn't commit. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
He felt he had that diplomatic immunity, | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
and she was such a manipulator to that young boy that, yes, | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
he would take a rap for her, knowing that, well, if I get caught, | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
they'll send me back to Germany, I'll pull a couple of years | 0:58:33 | 0:58:36 | |
and I'm out of it, and then me and Elizabeth will be back together. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:40 | |
If you look at those, | 0:58:40 | 0:58:41 | |
do you recognise them as some correspondence that was obtained | 0:58:41 | 0:58:45 | |
from a flat in England, April of 1986? | 0:58:45 | 0:58:49 | |
Love is a form of meditation, | 0:58:51 | 0:58:53 | |
and the ultimate, quote, weapon against your parents. | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
What it says right here is love, our love. | 0:58:56 | 0:58:59 | |
Elizabeth's love for me and mine for her. | 0:58:59 | 0:59:01 | |
That was supposed to be the quote, unquote, weapon against her parents. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:06 | |
This business about her father being cold and unfeeling | 0:59:06 | 0:59:08 | |
and her mother being very cruel. | 0:59:08 | 0:59:12 | |
I loved Elizabeth, and I believed that my love for her | 0:59:12 | 0:59:16 | |
had become more mature, real love. | 0:59:16 | 0:59:18 | |
That's how I felt about it, anyway. | 0:59:18 | 0:59:21 | |
The motion hearing will resume tomorrow morning at 9:30, | 0:59:21 | 0:59:24 | |
when witnesses will include British authorities | 0:59:24 | 0:59:26 | |
who also questioned Soering in England. | 0:59:26 | 0:59:28 | |
Judge William Sweeney will then decide whether or not | 0:59:28 | 0:59:31 | |
incriminating statements made by Soering will be used against him. | 0:59:31 | 0:59:34 | |
Pam Windsor, News Centre 13, Bedford County. | 0:59:34 | 0:59:37 | |
-State your name, please, sir? -Kenneth Beever. | 0:59:40 | 0:59:43 | |
Your profession, please? | 0:59:43 | 0:59:44 | |
I'm a Detective Inspector at the London Metropolitan Police. | 0:59:44 | 0:59:47 | |
Very good. | 0:59:47 | 0:59:49 | |
Look at those. | 0:59:49 | 0:59:51 | |
The items of correspondence were inside, sir, this diary. | 0:59:52 | 0:59:56 | |
Where were those items recovered? | 0:59:56 | 0:59:59 | |
They were recovered at a flat in London. | 0:59:59 | 1:00:01 | |
And, in fact, Mr Soering took me to the flat. | 1:00:01 | 1:00:05 | |
On that day, sir, he had a reddish-coloured hair | 1:00:05 | 1:00:08 | |
and he was wearing a false moustache, | 1:00:08 | 1:00:11 | |
somewhat similar to yours, sir. | 1:00:11 | 1:00:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:00:13 | 1:00:15 | |
My name is Terry Wright. I'm a Detective Constable. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:19 | |
At that particular time | 1:00:19 | 1:00:20 | |
I was attached to Richmond Police Station in London, England. | 1:00:20 | 1:00:23 | |
What led you to make the phone calls to Virginia? | 1:00:23 | 1:00:26 | |
Yes, sir, there was a photocopy of a letter | 1:00:26 | 1:00:28 | |
which was actually addressed to Officers Reid and Gardner. | 1:00:28 | 1:00:30 | |
Ooh! | 1:00:33 | 1:00:34 | |
-Hello? -Gail, David. | 1:00:36 | 1:00:39 | |
Yes. What have you found out? | 1:00:39 | 1:00:42 | |
Farmer is deceased. | 1:00:42 | 1:00:45 | |
Oh, goodness. | 1:00:46 | 1:00:48 | |
He passed away two weeks ago. | 1:00:48 | 1:00:49 | |
If he was involved in this thing he carried forever, | 1:00:50 | 1:00:55 | |
can you believe that no detective went and talked to him? | 1:00:55 | 1:00:59 | |
Oh, my dear. | 1:00:59 | 1:01:01 | |
I'll let you look. | 1:01:01 | 1:01:03 | |
This letter is in handwriting | 1:01:04 | 1:01:06 | |
that I recognise as belonging to Elizabeth Haysom. | 1:01:06 | 1:01:08 | |
"My dearest Jens. | 1:01:08 | 1:01:10 | |
"I think I shall seriously take up black magic. | 1:01:10 | 1:01:12 | |
"My father has put Vera Lynn on, and her first song was Lili Marlene." | 1:01:12 | 1:01:17 | |
# Underneath the lantern | 1:01:21 | 1:01:24 | |
# By the barrack gate. # | 1:01:24 | 1:01:26 | |
"My mother begins her sixth gin, | 1:01:26 | 1:01:28 | |
"and then on her ninth gin, Jim Farmer calls. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:31 | |
"A party, he says, | 1:01:31 | 1:01:33 | |
"breaking my concentration on the many murder stories I have read. | 1:01:33 | 1:01:38 | |
"An unshaven homosexual having a drink with my parents." | 1:01:38 | 1:01:42 | |
"My father calls, like an alarm clock. | 1:01:46 | 1:01:48 | |
"I must turn him off and put him on snooze. | 1:01:48 | 1:01:52 | |
"The scene of a feckless dinner party. | 1:01:52 | 1:01:54 | |
"William Styron, (Sophie's Choice). | 1:01:54 | 1:01:57 | |
"I'm sitting in the bath with lots of bubbles. | 1:01:57 | 1:02:00 | |
"It makes me sleepy, and I've drunk lots of beer. | 1:02:00 | 1:02:03 | |
"The days go slowly. | 1:02:03 | 1:02:05 | |
"Why don't my parents just lie down and die? | 1:02:05 | 1:02:07 | |
"I despise them so much." | 1:02:07 | 1:02:09 | |
"We can either wait until we graduate and then leave them behind, | 1:02:15 | 1:02:19 | |
"or we can get rid of them soon." | 1:02:19 | 1:02:21 | |
-And your objective here? -Was to tell the truth. | 1:02:41 | 1:02:43 | |
And to convince these jurors that you didn't do anything, correct? | 1:02:43 | 1:02:46 | |
That's the truth, yes. | 1:02:46 | 1:02:48 | |
You are capable of doing that, right? | 1:02:48 | 1:02:51 | |
Of telling the truth? | 1:02:51 | 1:02:52 | |
If you are capable of lying to protect yourself, | 1:02:52 | 1:02:55 | |
then you are almost certainly capable of lying to these people | 1:02:55 | 1:02:59 | |
-to avoid these charges. -But that's not what I'm doing. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:01 | |
Aren't you capable of doing it? | 1:03:01 | 1:03:04 | |
Theoretically, because in one case I'm lying to protect Elizabeth, | 1:03:04 | 1:03:07 | |
and here I'm just telling what happened. | 1:03:07 | 1:03:09 | |
At this point, you can't do anything to Elizabeth any more. | 1:03:09 | 1:03:12 | |
Jens was very bright. | 1:03:12 | 1:03:13 | |
He was a Jefferson scholar and an Eccles scholar. | 1:03:13 | 1:03:17 | |
The incidence of those scholarships being visited upon one person | 1:03:17 | 1:03:22 | |
is beyond rare. | 1:03:22 | 1:03:23 | |
She, too, was academically a very talented person. | 1:03:23 | 1:03:29 | |
And it was the proximity of their IQs | 1:03:29 | 1:03:33 | |
that seemed to bring them together, at least initially. | 1:03:33 | 1:03:36 | |
-Is it an intellectual challenge for you? -No, it isn't. | 1:03:36 | 1:03:40 | |
Is it...? It certainly wouldn't be a challenge for you | 1:03:40 | 1:03:42 | |
with your intellect to outwit me, would it? | 1:03:42 | 1:03:46 | |
Well, I think, so far, you've been outwitting me. | 1:03:46 | 1:03:49 | |
There is a burden that comes with being so bright, | 1:03:49 | 1:03:52 | |
and there's some folks don't like you very much because you're bright. | 1:03:52 | 1:03:56 | |
And sometimes bright people don't hide their brightness | 1:03:56 | 1:03:59 | |
or mask it very well. | 1:03:59 | 1:04:01 | |
And so, to a certain extent, Jens had... | 1:04:01 | 1:04:05 | |
..some challenges. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:08 | |
I just can't understand, sir, | 1:04:08 | 1:04:09 | |
why you, at times, are sitting up there under these circumstances, | 1:04:09 | 1:04:13 | |
on trial for murder, laughing. | 1:04:13 | 1:04:15 | |
I'm not laughing. | 1:04:15 | 1:04:17 | |
Haven't you laughed, didn't you laugh just a few minutes ago? | 1:04:17 | 1:04:19 | |
I smiled because you're trying to mislead the jury. | 1:04:19 | 1:04:22 | |
Well, I would like to discuss that with you a little bit more. | 1:04:22 | 1:04:26 | |
You have to recast this situation | 1:04:26 | 1:04:31 | |
in such a way that we appeal to the humanity, | 1:04:31 | 1:04:36 | |
and that is why I have initiated the pulling together | 1:04:36 | 1:04:39 | |
of a small group of people to look at this case | 1:04:39 | 1:04:42 | |
differently from how they have looked at it in the past. | 1:04:42 | 1:04:46 | |
-Good morning. -Good morning. Hi. | 1:04:46 | 1:04:48 | |
Good to see you all. Hi, good morning. | 1:04:48 | 1:04:52 | |
Hi. | 1:04:52 | 1:04:53 | |
This memo is from Virginia citizens interested in the release | 1:04:53 | 1:04:56 | |
and repatriation of Jens Soering. | 1:04:56 | 1:04:59 | |
The Virginia Parole Board considered his parole eight times before today. | 1:04:59 | 1:05:04 | |
I have known Jens Soering since he was 11 years old. | 1:05:04 | 1:05:07 | |
I would accept him to live with me right this minute. | 1:05:07 | 1:05:11 | |
As long as he wants to. | 1:05:11 | 1:05:13 | |
I've been involved in prison ministry for over 35 years. | 1:05:13 | 1:05:16 | |
I got a letter from Jens Soering asking for help to get a priest. | 1:05:16 | 1:05:21 | |
He'd had this crisis in faith. | 1:05:21 | 1:05:23 | |
His grandmother wrote a letter to him that the honourable thing to do | 1:05:23 | 1:05:27 | |
would be to commit suicide. | 1:05:27 | 1:05:29 | |
So we started meeting regularly once a month. | 1:05:29 | 1:05:32 | |
And have been ever since then. | 1:05:32 | 1:05:35 | |
27 years in prison, he has absolutely no infractions. | 1:05:35 | 1:05:39 | |
And, to my knowledge, | 1:05:39 | 1:05:41 | |
there is no-one in our prison system that has a record like his. | 1:05:41 | 1:05:45 | |
So that convinced me that he never had the ability | 1:05:45 | 1:05:52 | |
to act the way those crimes happened. | 1:05:52 | 1:05:55 | |
It's just not... | 1:05:55 | 1:05:57 | |
This is not part of his make-up. | 1:05:57 | 1:05:59 | |
There is absolutely no risk to society. It's in your power... | 1:05:59 | 1:06:03 | |
I was in the Attorney General's Office for eight years. | 1:06:03 | 1:06:06 | |
A friend of mine in the office was a friend of Jens's father, Klaus. | 1:06:06 | 1:06:12 | |
And he said, I have a very interesting case, | 1:06:12 | 1:06:16 | |
I would like you to try to help this young man, | 1:06:16 | 1:06:18 | |
who had a very unfair trial. | 1:06:18 | 1:06:21 | |
So I brought all the files in. | 1:06:22 | 1:06:25 | |
And I read all the police reports. | 1:06:25 | 1:06:27 | |
And I looked at everything in the case. | 1:06:29 | 1:06:32 | |
And I said, "This man is innocent." | 1:06:32 | 1:06:34 | |
"We've got the wrong man, this man didn't do it." | 1:06:35 | 1:06:38 | |
-State your name please, ma'am. -Annie Robertson Massie. | 1:06:41 | 1:06:45 | |
Could you just briefly describe the circumstances that led you | 1:06:46 | 1:06:50 | |
to go to the victim's house? | 1:06:50 | 1:06:52 | |
Elizabeth had telephoned from Charlottesville | 1:06:52 | 1:06:55 | |
that she had not been able to reach her parents, | 1:06:55 | 1:06:58 | |
and asked if I knew where they were. | 1:06:58 | 1:07:01 | |
And I told her, no, I had been trying as well. | 1:07:01 | 1:07:04 | |
-What did you do then? -I telephoned my husband. | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
We planned to go directly to the house. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:09 | |
I opened the door. | 1:07:09 | 1:07:11 | |
And what did you see? | 1:07:11 | 1:07:13 | |
I saw Derek, dead. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:14 | |
Where was he? | 1:07:16 | 1:07:18 | |
He was lying to the left of the door. | 1:07:18 | 1:07:20 | |
The body had not been moved. | 1:07:23 | 1:07:24 | |
So Bill and I drove to Charlottesville | 1:07:26 | 1:07:29 | |
to tell Elizabeth in person about the deaths of her parents. | 1:07:29 | 1:07:33 | |
Did you see the defendant while you were there in Charlottesville | 1:07:33 | 1:07:36 | |
-on that occasion? -Yes, I did. | 1:07:36 | 1:07:38 | |
The family were gathering. | 1:07:38 | 1:07:40 | |
And I also invited her roommate, Christine Kim. | 1:07:40 | 1:07:44 | |
And so we brought the three back. | 1:07:44 | 1:07:47 | |
Mrs Massie, I'd like to ask you some questions | 1:07:49 | 1:07:52 | |
of a rather sensitive nature. | 1:07:52 | 1:07:54 | |
Had Nancy Haysom ever shown you any nude photographs | 1:07:54 | 1:07:58 | |
of Elizabeth Haysom? | 1:07:58 | 1:07:59 | |
No, Nancy had not. | 1:07:59 | 1:08:01 | |
Was there ever an incident at Loose Chippings | 1:08:03 | 1:08:07 | |
when you complimented Elizabeth Haysom on her physical appearance | 1:08:07 | 1:08:10 | |
and tweaked one of her breasts? | 1:08:10 | 1:08:13 | |
Objection, your honour. | 1:08:13 | 1:08:14 | |
Well, I... | 1:08:14 | 1:08:16 | |
Have you ever talked to Elizabeth Haysom | 1:08:16 | 1:08:18 | |
about whether she was there on the night of March the 30th? | 1:08:18 | 1:08:21 | |
No. | 1:08:24 | 1:08:25 | |
-No? -No, I asked her once. | 1:08:25 | 1:08:29 | |
Objection. | 1:08:29 | 1:08:30 | |
The question has certainly started off wrong. | 1:08:30 | 1:08:32 | |
I don't know how it would have ended up, | 1:08:32 | 1:08:34 | |
but based on the way it started off, I sustain. | 1:08:34 | 1:08:36 | |
Mr Neaton had been a friend of Jens's father, Klaus. | 1:08:36 | 1:08:41 | |
He was not from Virginia. | 1:08:41 | 1:08:43 | |
And Virginia has some very... | 1:08:43 | 1:08:46 | |
peculiar rules about procedure, default rules, | 1:08:46 | 1:08:50 | |
so that you can lose your opportunity to make a certain argument | 1:08:50 | 1:08:54 | |
if you don't do it procedurally, exactly the correct way. | 1:08:54 | 1:08:57 | |
You know, some facts would suggest that Elizabeth Haysom... | 1:08:57 | 1:09:00 | |
-Objection. -Mr Neaton, that's an improper question. | 1:09:00 | 1:09:03 | |
I sustain the objection. You're an experienced trial lawyer. | 1:09:03 | 1:09:07 | |
It's going at it a different way. Sustain. | 1:09:07 | 1:09:09 | |
With reference to item 11B, | 1:09:12 | 1:09:14 | |
a hair sample obtained from the bathroom sink. | 1:09:14 | 1:09:18 | |
Did you have the occasion to compare this | 1:09:19 | 1:09:21 | |
with the defendant's hair sample? | 1:09:21 | 1:09:24 | |
Yes, sir, I did. | 1:09:24 | 1:09:25 | |
The head hair was dissimilar to the submitted head hair sample | 1:09:25 | 1:09:29 | |
reportedly from Jens Soering. | 1:09:29 | 1:09:31 | |
-Any further questions? -No, sir. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:38 | |
The witness may step down. The witness is excused. | 1:09:38 | 1:09:41 | |
Mr Young, you were submitted fingerprints | 1:09:42 | 1:09:45 | |
for comparison purposes. | 1:09:45 | 1:09:47 | |
Item 17LR, which would be the liquor bottles over here. | 1:09:47 | 1:09:52 | |
Yes, sir, there were 14 fingerprints developed on these bottles. | 1:09:52 | 1:09:56 | |
Nine fingerprints of Derek Haysom. | 1:09:56 | 1:09:58 | |
Two that were later identified as whose prints? | 1:09:58 | 1:10:03 | |
Those were identified with | 1:10:03 | 1:10:04 | |
the submitted fingerprints of Elizabeth Haysom, | 1:10:04 | 1:10:07 | |
which were lifted from the Absolut Vodka bottle. | 1:10:07 | 1:10:10 | |
So, nine of the prints were Derek's, | 1:10:10 | 1:10:12 | |
two of the prints were Elizabeth Haysom's. | 1:10:12 | 1:10:15 | |
The other three were not identified | 1:10:15 | 1:10:18 | |
with any of the submitted fingerprints. | 1:10:18 | 1:10:21 | |
This interview is taking place in Bedford, Virginia. | 1:10:21 | 1:10:23 | |
The person being interviewed is Charles Reid. | 1:10:23 | 1:10:25 | |
-Chuck Reid. -Chuck Reid. Former... | 1:10:25 | 1:10:28 | |
I was a criminal investigator for the Bedford Sheriff's Office. | 1:10:28 | 1:10:31 | |
And that was you, Ricky Gardner... | 1:10:31 | 1:10:33 | |
You see, Ricky had just came in. | 1:10:33 | 1:10:35 | |
That was the first murder case Ricky had worked, | 1:10:35 | 1:10:37 | |
let me put it to you that way. | 1:10:37 | 1:10:38 | |
We took over 1,000 pictures. | 1:10:38 | 1:10:40 | |
The way the bodies were laying on the floor, | 1:10:40 | 1:10:42 | |
their heads were pointing in a northerly direction. | 1:10:42 | 1:10:45 | |
I don't think Elizabeth alone did it, by no means. | 1:10:45 | 1:10:47 | |
There's no doubt in my mind some other people to be involved. | 1:10:47 | 1:10:51 | |
TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: | 1:10:51 | 1:10:54 | |
Still, to this day, after 30 years, there's a question in my mind. | 1:11:09 | 1:11:13 | |
The physical evidence was not there. | 1:11:13 | 1:11:15 | |
They were just overwhelming convinced with that sock print | 1:11:15 | 1:11:18 | |
found in the house, and blood. | 1:11:18 | 1:11:20 | |
By observing the form of this foot, LR3, | 1:11:36 | 1:11:42 | |
and Jens Soering's walking impression, | 1:11:42 | 1:11:45 | |
I could not make an elimination | 1:11:45 | 1:11:47 | |
that this foot could not have made that impression. | 1:11:47 | 1:11:50 | |
Well, in the first place, this man was not a sock print | 1:11:50 | 1:11:54 | |
or a footprint expert - he was a tyre expert. | 1:11:54 | 1:11:58 | |
And he should never have been allowed to have an opinion. | 1:11:58 | 1:12:01 | |
If that is the suspect print found at the scene, | 1:12:01 | 1:12:06 | |
and if this is Jens Soering's footprint, | 1:12:06 | 1:12:09 | |
and you lay them on top of one another like that | 1:12:09 | 1:12:12 | |
and it fits like a glove... | 1:12:12 | 1:12:14 | |
You pull that out, and it matches, and it fits like a glove. | 1:12:14 | 1:12:18 | |
This was so out of professionalism or any expertise. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:23 | |
This is senseless. This is not science. | 1:12:23 | 1:12:26 | |
This is ridiculous. | 1:12:26 | 1:12:28 | |
Nobody can tell anybody's foot from a... | 1:12:28 | 1:12:31 | |
A smeared sock print. | 1:12:31 | 1:12:33 | |
The footprint basically is what, | 1:12:33 | 1:12:35 | |
besides his statement of admitting to it, | 1:12:35 | 1:12:38 | |
put him where he's at. | 1:12:38 | 1:12:39 | |
75% of the people that are in jail today, their mouth put them there. | 1:12:39 | 1:12:44 | |
It's not the evidence, it's their mouth. | 1:12:44 | 1:12:47 | |
And that's exactly what put Jens where he's at. | 1:12:47 | 1:12:50 | |
Mr Gardner, did you have information that the shoe print | 1:12:55 | 1:13:00 | |
that was left in the Haysom house was consistent | 1:13:00 | 1:13:03 | |
with a woman's size 8-8.5 shoe? | 1:13:03 | 1:13:07 | |
I'm not certain, Mr Neaton, | 1:13:07 | 1:13:09 | |
because I don't know when we got the report back | 1:13:09 | 1:13:12 | |
from the lab in Richmond. | 1:13:12 | 1:13:13 | |
Mr Gardner, you were present during Elizabeth Haysom's interviews, | 1:13:13 | 1:13:17 | |
-is that correct? -Yes, I was. | 1:13:17 | 1:13:19 | |
And at that interview, did Elizabeth Haysom tell you that her shoe size | 1:13:19 | 1:13:23 | |
-was a size eight? -Objection, your honour. | 1:13:23 | 1:13:26 | |
The jury either be excluded or we open up this area entirely. | 1:13:26 | 1:13:31 | |
Well, I think this is a matter that we need to send the jury out. | 1:13:31 | 1:13:34 | |
Members of the jury, I'll ask you to go to your room, please. | 1:13:34 | 1:13:38 | |
Lynchburg Cablevision presents same-day coverage | 1:13:42 | 1:13:45 | |
of the Jens Soering trial from the Bedford County Circuit Court, | 1:13:45 | 1:13:48 | |
brought to you as a public service by Lynchburg Cablevision. | 1:13:48 | 1:13:52 | |
So, let me make sure, from Baker's report, | 1:13:56 | 1:13:59 | |
somebody said the shoe type was, what, a New Balance? | 1:13:59 | 1:14:02 | |
Size... Is that correct? | 1:14:02 | 1:14:04 | |
Yes, sir. | 1:14:06 | 1:14:08 | |
And that it was a women's what size? | 1:14:08 | 1:14:10 | |
It was an 8.5 shoe, woman's size. | 1:14:18 | 1:14:21 | |
8.5 in woman's size. | 1:14:21 | 1:14:24 | |
So that tells me there are other people to look at here. | 1:14:24 | 1:14:27 | |
Was a profile requested by your department? | 1:14:27 | 1:14:32 | |
Ed's back. He and another individual came in and did the profile. | 1:14:32 | 1:14:36 | |
But, see, that wasn't brought up in court. | 1:14:36 | 1:14:39 | |
It was not. | 1:14:39 | 1:14:41 | |
Gardner said it didn't happen. | 1:14:41 | 1:14:43 | |
The existence of a profile | 1:14:43 | 1:14:46 | |
not provided to the defence? | 1:14:46 | 1:14:49 | |
That's a pretty high bar. | 1:14:49 | 1:14:51 | |
Sit down. | 1:14:51 | 1:14:53 | |
Would you tell the jury your name? | 1:14:56 | 1:14:58 | |
I'm Jean Bass. I lived on Holcomb Rock Road, | 1:14:58 | 1:15:01 | |
just beyond the Haysom house. | 1:15:01 | 1:15:04 | |
Do you recall driving by the Haysom house that night? | 1:15:04 | 1:15:07 | |
Yes. | 1:15:07 | 1:15:09 | |
It was either Saturday night, Sunday night or Monday night. | 1:15:09 | 1:15:12 | |
It was just getting dark. | 1:15:12 | 1:15:14 | |
We saw every light inside and outside of the house on. | 1:15:14 | 1:15:19 | |
And we saw cars parked | 1:15:19 | 1:15:23 | |
on the driveway, all the way up that driveway as far as we could see. | 1:15:23 | 1:15:28 | |
I would say there were at least five or six cars. | 1:15:28 | 1:15:31 | |
I just want to make sure, there were cars all the way down the driveway? | 1:15:33 | 1:15:36 | |
The end of the last car was within two or three feet | 1:15:36 | 1:15:38 | |
of Holcomb Rock Road. | 1:15:38 | 1:15:40 | |
-And all the way up the driveway? -Yes, as far as we could see. | 1:15:40 | 1:15:43 | |
Why would she rent the car in her name, | 1:15:47 | 1:15:50 | |
but yet let him drive it back over there and kill some people | 1:15:50 | 1:15:53 | |
when anybody could take a chance | 1:15:53 | 1:15:55 | |
to see that and recognise that car there that night? | 1:15:55 | 1:15:57 | |
So who's to say that she didn't rent it and he stayed in DC? | 1:15:59 | 1:16:02 | |
She comes back in the car, parks the car somewhere else | 1:16:02 | 1:16:05 | |
and get with some people in another car and goes to the crime scene. | 1:16:05 | 1:16:08 | |
If another group of people in a different car commit the crime, | 1:16:08 | 1:16:10 | |
go back and get in the rental car, | 1:16:10 | 1:16:12 | |
then they can trace the car back to her. | 1:16:12 | 1:16:15 | |
I'm just saying, hey, you know, anything is possible. | 1:16:15 | 1:16:18 | |
Can I ask you about Jim Farmer? | 1:16:18 | 1:16:20 | |
I knew his dad, the judge. | 1:16:20 | 1:16:23 | |
Farmer was a general district judge in Bedford. | 1:16:23 | 1:16:25 | |
So, you were in Washington on Saturday. | 1:16:27 | 1:16:29 | |
And Elizabeth Haysom says to you, | 1:16:29 | 1:16:31 | |
I've got to take some drugs back to an individual in Charlottesville? | 1:16:31 | 1:16:35 | |
That's correct. | 1:16:35 | 1:16:36 | |
She was supposed to pick up drugs in Washington, DC, | 1:16:36 | 1:16:39 | |
with the person that she told me was her drug dealer, Jim Farmer. | 1:16:39 | 1:16:42 | |
Why are you so interested in attacking that individual? | 1:16:42 | 1:16:46 | |
I haven't asked you about him. | 1:16:46 | 1:16:48 | |
I mean, it's what she said to me. | 1:16:48 | 1:16:52 | |
Jens, had Elizabeth ever told you | 1:16:52 | 1:16:54 | |
that she had purchased the 10:15 ticket? | 1:16:54 | 1:16:58 | |
No. Elizabeth basically got the times confused, | 1:16:58 | 1:17:01 | |
because she wasn't there when I bought the tickets in DC. | 1:17:01 | 1:17:04 | |
Just like I got the position of the bodies confused | 1:17:04 | 1:17:07 | |
because I wasn't in Lynchburg. | 1:17:07 | 1:17:08 | |
OK. Can you step down? And we're going to have to do some explaining. | 1:17:08 | 1:17:12 | |
When Elizabeth went to clean up the house with her brothers, | 1:17:12 | 1:17:15 | |
she wrote me a letter in which she said | 1:17:15 | 1:17:17 | |
that the house was different from when she'd left it | 1:17:17 | 1:17:20 | |
and somebody else must have come after her to the house. | 1:17:20 | 1:17:23 | |
She said the bodies were aligned along the same axis. | 1:17:23 | 1:17:27 | |
See, this is the living room, right? | 1:17:27 | 1:17:29 | |
Now, when she said to me in the doorway, | 1:17:29 | 1:17:30 | |
I naturally assumed that she meant in the doorway like that, right? | 1:17:30 | 1:17:34 | |
Which is wrong. | 1:17:34 | 1:17:36 | |
What she meant in the doorway was that Mr Haysom was lying like that, | 1:17:36 | 1:17:39 | |
blocking the doorway. | 1:17:39 | 1:17:41 | |
And that's why I changed Mrs Haysom's body from that | 1:17:41 | 1:17:44 | |
-to that. -OK, we can resume this statement. | 1:17:44 | 1:17:46 | |
What happened to that letter? | 1:17:47 | 1:17:49 | |
I threw that away. Because I thought | 1:17:49 | 1:17:51 | |
this letter made it quite clear that she had killed the Haysoms. | 1:17:51 | 1:17:54 | |
But it didn't occur to me that somebody else | 1:17:54 | 1:17:56 | |
was part of a conspiracy to kill her parents. | 1:17:56 | 1:17:59 | |
Here it is. This is from inside. | 1:18:15 | 1:18:18 | |
Elizabeth is a very good writer. | 1:18:19 | 1:18:21 | |
She wrote for this little paper from prison. | 1:18:22 | 1:18:25 | |
Everyday Issues, by Elizabeth Haysom. | 1:18:28 | 1:18:31 | |
"When I first arrived at Fluvanna in 1998, | 1:18:32 | 1:18:35 | |
"I got my head stuck in my four-inch window. | 1:18:35 | 1:18:37 | |
"My day consists of being told to sit, stand, go faster, go slower, | 1:18:37 | 1:18:41 | |
"be quieter, be louder, | 1:18:41 | 1:18:42 | |
"of spending my entire 20-minute lunch breaks | 1:18:42 | 1:18:45 | |
"being told to tighten up, hurry up, finish up and get up. | 1:18:45 | 1:18:48 | |
"I live a few feet from Death Row in segregation, | 1:18:48 | 1:18:51 | |
"which is a reminder of the thin line I walk. | 1:18:51 | 1:18:53 | |
"My green dog reminds me that dreams | 1:18:53 | 1:18:55 | |
"and opportunities don't always arrive in quite the way we expect. | 1:18:55 | 1:18:59 | |
"This is a punishment, it's meant to be tough." | 1:18:59 | 1:19:02 | |
REPORTER: Two weeks of testimony from numerous witnesses. | 1:19:02 | 1:19:05 | |
Tomorrow, Elizabeth Haysom will take the stand. | 1:19:05 | 1:19:07 | |
It will be the first time that Haysom and Jens Soering | 1:19:07 | 1:19:10 | |
will face each other since both were returned to the US. | 1:19:10 | 1:19:12 | |
Pam Windsor, News Centre 13, Bedford. | 1:19:12 | 1:19:14 | |
-Good morning, Miss Haysom. -Good morning, sir. | 1:19:57 | 1:20:00 | |
If you need a break at any time during the questioning, | 1:20:00 | 1:20:03 | |
indicate to me and we'll take a break. | 1:20:03 | 1:20:06 | |
Elizabeth is beautiful. | 1:20:07 | 1:20:09 | |
She's a beautiful girl. | 1:20:11 | 1:20:12 | |
Miss Haysom, before Mr Soering left Washington... | 1:20:14 | 1:20:18 | |
..did you provide him with any information concerning | 1:20:20 | 1:20:23 | |
-the location of...? -INDISTINCT | 1:20:23 | 1:20:26 | |
-Yes, I did, sir. -How was that? | 1:20:26 | 1:20:28 | |
-I drew it on a map. -You drew him a map. | 1:20:28 | 1:20:31 | |
He's very well-dressed. | 1:20:31 | 1:20:33 | |
And we'll always remember him by his large glasses. | 1:20:33 | 1:20:37 | |
After I'd been interviewed by the police the first time, | 1:20:37 | 1:20:41 | |
Jens and I got together with my roommate, Christine, | 1:20:41 | 1:20:44 | |
and we created a packet of our alibi. | 1:20:44 | 1:20:48 | |
Christine wrote the document out. | 1:20:50 | 1:20:52 | |
We sort of dictated it to her. | 1:20:52 | 1:20:55 | |
I'm not quite sure why we had her do it. | 1:20:55 | 1:20:57 | |
Maybe to have a third person involved. | 1:20:57 | 1:21:00 | |
So, we created this alibi in diary form, | 1:21:00 | 1:21:05 | |
going from the Friday up until the time | 1:21:05 | 1:21:07 | |
that we stayed with the Massies. | 1:21:07 | 1:21:09 | |
And did both you and Jens Soering then dictate this to Christine? | 1:21:09 | 1:21:13 | |
-Yes, we did. -Christine Kim? | 1:21:13 | 1:21:15 | |
Yes, that's correct. | 1:21:15 | 1:21:16 | |
PHONE RINGS | 1:21:16 | 1:21:19 | |
'This is Global Tel Mate. | 1:21:19 | 1:21:20 | |
-'I have a prepaid call from...' -Jens Soering. | 1:21:20 | 1:21:24 | |
'..an inmate in Buckingham Correctional Centre. | 1:21:24 | 1:21:27 | |
'Dial zero now.' | 1:21:27 | 1:21:29 | |
'Your call is being connected.' | 1:21:30 | 1:21:33 | |
-Good morning. -Good morning. Yes. | 1:21:33 | 1:21:35 | |
We still have that beer that we're going to have in Germany | 1:21:35 | 1:21:38 | |
when you get out. | 1:21:38 | 1:21:39 | |
I'm coming over and you're going to show me around, OK? | 1:21:39 | 1:21:42 | |
I wanted to say something about the fact that, | 1:21:42 | 1:21:45 | |
in the trial in 1990, there was this document that was kind of a timeline | 1:21:45 | 1:21:50 | |
for what happened on that weekend. | 1:21:50 | 1:21:53 | |
There was some thought that I might have written this document | 1:21:53 | 1:21:56 | |
and that was clearly not the case. | 1:21:56 | 1:21:59 | |
-ELIZABETH: -Friday, March 29th. | 1:21:59 | 1:22:01 | |
16-19, Washington trip, arrived at 7pm. | 1:22:01 | 1:22:05 | |
19-22, checked into hotel, room service, sex. | 1:22:06 | 1:22:11 | |
Saturday, 22-24, Stranger In Paradise. | 1:22:11 | 1:22:15 | |
0-2, Rocky Horror Picture Show, late. | 1:22:15 | 1:22:19 | |
2-3, drunken encounter. | 1:22:19 | 1:22:21 | |
Turn left on Cadys Alley Northwest. | 1:22:22 | 1:22:25 | |
Monday, 11:30-3am, E called our parents after movie. | 1:22:26 | 1:22:31 | |
Wednesday, E called Massies. | 1:22:31 | 1:22:33 | |
Call-back 11:10. | 1:22:33 | 1:22:35 | |
And then it has "Massie's" written underneath. | 1:22:36 | 1:22:39 | |
Thank you for reading that. If you can identify the handwriting... | 1:22:39 | 1:22:44 | |
Yes, this is Christine Kim's handwriting. | 1:22:44 | 1:22:46 | |
-JENS: -But the prosecution never asked Christine Kim | 1:22:46 | 1:22:49 | |
to testify at my trial. | 1:22:49 | 1:22:52 | |
Somebody told me that Christine Kim's | 1:22:52 | 1:22:54 | |
-some kind of -BLEEP -Professor at -BLEEP -University, maybe. | 1:22:54 | 1:22:58 | |
Hey, Dave. It's Gail. | 1:22:58 | 1:23:01 | |
-Hey, Gail. -Yes. | 1:23:01 | 1:23:02 | |
What have you found out? | 1:23:02 | 1:23:04 | |
Miss Kim left me a voicemail. | 1:23:04 | 1:23:06 | |
She said that if I came on the property of the university again, | 1:23:07 | 1:23:10 | |
she would call the police on me. | 1:23:10 | 1:23:12 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 1:23:12 | 1:23:14 | |
I have no idea why she would be reacting that way. | 1:23:15 | 1:23:19 | |
Miss Haysom, | 1:23:22 | 1:23:24 | |
I'd like you to read the highlighted portion | 1:23:24 | 1:23:26 | |
on page three of that letter. | 1:23:26 | 1:23:28 | |
"I hated my love for you for a long time. | 1:23:28 | 1:23:31 | |
"I had always believed that I made men fall in love with me | 1:23:31 | 1:23:35 | |
"so that I could screw them, physically and emotionally, | 1:23:35 | 1:23:38 | |
"and take out all the hatred I felt for them. | 1:23:38 | 1:23:40 | |
"I would make a man humiliate himself and, in the end, | 1:23:40 | 1:23:44 | |
"I would give him the best fuck he's ever likely to get | 1:23:44 | 1:23:47 | |
"and then walk out." | 1:23:47 | 1:23:48 | |
That's what you did to Jens, wasn't it? | 1:23:50 | 1:23:52 | |
No, I don't think that that's what I did to Jens. | 1:23:54 | 1:23:59 | |
Did you ever tell my client that Mrs Massie | 1:23:59 | 1:24:01 | |
-had somehow done things to you? -Objection, your honour. | 1:24:01 | 1:24:05 | |
I apologise, but I have to do it. I feel that it's my duty. | 1:24:05 | 1:24:09 | |
Did you ever tell Jens Soering | 1:24:09 | 1:24:12 | |
that your mother's good friend, Mrs Massie, touched you in any way? | 1:24:12 | 1:24:17 | |
-Yes, she did. -When you ask a question like that, | 1:24:17 | 1:24:21 | |
you've got to prove it. | 1:24:21 | 1:24:22 | |
You can't just ask questions and then not back it up with proof. | 1:24:22 | 1:24:25 | |
And if you don't, I'm going to strike the question | 1:24:25 | 1:24:27 | |
and I'm going to strike the answer. | 1:24:27 | 1:24:28 | |
There were rumours that there were... | 1:24:28 | 1:24:31 | |
I just don't think we ought to talk about the rumours, honey. | 1:24:31 | 1:24:34 | |
-Well... -I mean, really... I don't think that adds anything to it. | 1:24:34 | 1:24:37 | |
-None of them were true! -Well, I know that. | 1:24:37 | 1:24:39 | |
-All kinds of rumours. -Because that might involve other people, | 1:24:39 | 1:24:42 | |
and I just don't think we ought to go into that. | 1:24:42 | 1:24:44 | |
You said that your mother slept with you. | 1:24:47 | 1:24:50 | |
Yes, sir. | 1:24:50 | 1:24:52 | |
Objection, your honour. | 1:24:52 | 1:24:53 | |
That's not a relevant question. | 1:24:53 | 1:24:55 | |
She abused you, right? | 1:24:56 | 1:24:57 | |
Was that true? | 1:25:03 | 1:25:04 | |
Yes, sir, it was. | 1:25:06 | 1:25:08 | |
Well, when you testified at your guilty plea here, | 1:25:10 | 1:25:13 | |
in October of 1987, you said that was false. | 1:25:13 | 1:25:17 | |
You were asked, was she a sexual abuser? | 1:25:17 | 1:25:19 | |
If she didn't, for God's sake, clear her name now. | 1:25:19 | 1:25:22 | |
And have I said today that she sexually abused me? | 1:25:22 | 1:25:25 | |
You said yes today, right? | 1:25:25 | 1:25:28 | |
I said that she abused me. I did not specify that it was sexual. | 1:25:28 | 1:25:31 | |
Then you didn't lie to us? | 1:25:34 | 1:25:36 | |
No, I did not. | 1:25:36 | 1:25:37 | |
It actually is a mitigating circumstance | 1:25:45 | 1:25:50 | |
if you are abused and you're young | 1:25:50 | 1:25:53 | |
and who knows how long the abuse has gone on and why it all happened? | 1:25:53 | 1:25:57 | |
The prosecutor knows. | 1:25:59 | 1:26:00 | |
It's the key to everything. | 1:26:02 | 1:26:05 | |
I was there when Updike pushed her. | 1:26:05 | 1:26:07 | |
That was the nexus, | 1:26:07 | 1:26:09 | |
that was the crucible in which all of this was cooked. | 1:26:09 | 1:26:12 | |
I still see him talking with Elizabeth and discounting a motive. | 1:26:12 | 1:26:17 | |
And he said, "This is the chance to clear your mother's name," | 1:26:17 | 1:26:20 | |
and she said... She cleared it. | 1:26:20 | 1:26:22 | |
Your mother's been butchered. | 1:26:22 | 1:26:23 | |
-Yes, she has, sir. -You called her a liar and an alcoholic. | 1:26:23 | 1:26:26 | |
-I did not call her an alcoholic. -Was she a sexual abuser? | 1:26:26 | 1:26:29 | |
Did she sexually abuse you? | 1:26:29 | 1:26:30 | |
If she didn't, for God's sake, clear her name now. | 1:26:30 | 1:26:33 | |
-She did not sexually abuse me. -Thank you. | 1:26:33 | 1:26:35 | |
You said that to get a deal, right? | 1:26:38 | 1:26:40 | |
In order to try to get yourself a light sentence. | 1:26:45 | 1:26:48 | |
-You had the services of an attorney, Mr Rosenfield. -That is correct. | 1:26:55 | 1:27:00 | |
There are all sorts of promises that get made to prisoners | 1:27:00 | 1:27:03 | |
that induces them to plead guilty. | 1:27:03 | 1:27:07 | |
Sometimes a family member will not be prosecuted | 1:27:07 | 1:27:10 | |
because of a deal worked out. | 1:27:10 | 1:27:12 | |
That's a favourite one by prosecutors. | 1:27:12 | 1:27:16 | |
"If you plead guilty, we won't charge your mother." | 1:27:16 | 1:27:18 | |
And so, Elizabeth Haysom made a deal with the government that, | 1:27:19 | 1:27:23 | |
if she pled guilty and testified against Jens, | 1:27:23 | 1:27:27 | |
that the death penalty would be removed | 1:27:27 | 1:27:30 | |
because neither Elizabeth nor Jens | 1:27:30 | 1:27:32 | |
wanted to come back to Virginia and face the death penalty. | 1:27:32 | 1:27:35 | |
There's a certain irony that 27 years after that, | 1:27:37 | 1:27:40 | |
I was contacted by somebody acting on Jens' behalf | 1:27:40 | 1:27:44 | |
to get him transferred to Germany | 1:27:44 | 1:27:47 | |
and I attempted to get that accomplished. | 1:27:47 | 1:27:50 | |
-'I have a prepaid call from...' -Jens Soering. | 1:27:50 | 1:27:54 | |
'..an inmate in Buckingham Correctional Center. | 1:27:54 | 1:27:57 | |
'Your call is being connected. Thank you for using Global Tel Mate.' | 1:27:57 | 1:28:02 | |
-Hi, Steve. -Jens, how you doing? | 1:28:02 | 1:28:04 | |
Oh, peachy(!) And you? | 1:28:04 | 1:28:07 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:28:07 | 1:28:08 | |
I wanted to say something about the fact that the judge in this case, | 1:28:08 | 1:28:12 | |
Bill Sweeney, was a very close friend of Natalie Haysom's brother, | 1:28:12 | 1:28:18 | |
Rick Benedict. The Benedicts were a prominent Lynchburg family. | 1:28:18 | 1:28:22 | |
I think that is a really important component to all of this. | 1:28:22 | 1:28:26 | |
Back then, it was not common | 1:28:26 | 1:28:28 | |
to speak about child sexual abuse openly. | 1:28:28 | 1:28:30 | |
Both of them nude together in the bathtub | 1:28:30 | 1:28:34 | |
and had sex in the bathroom. | 1:28:34 | 1:28:36 | |
And the judge knowing Nancy Haysom when he was growing up | 1:28:36 | 1:28:39 | |
was obviously strong personal motivation. | 1:28:39 | 1:28:42 | |
These naked pictures was in her teenage years? | 1:28:42 | 1:28:46 | |
-Late teens. -Late teens. | 1:28:46 | 1:28:47 | |
And Nancy Haysom had shown those photographs | 1:28:47 | 1:28:51 | |
around to friends of hers. | 1:28:51 | 1:28:53 | |
So these photographs were placed under seal | 1:28:54 | 1:28:58 | |
and basically went into hiding. | 1:28:58 | 1:29:00 | |
You're still here in Virginia, right? | 1:29:00 | 1:29:03 | |
-ELIZABETH: -I guess so. | 1:29:03 | 1:29:04 | |
You came back to plead guilty, right? | 1:29:06 | 1:29:09 | |
-Yes, I did. -To tell the truth. | 1:29:09 | 1:29:11 | |
-Right? -To plead guilty. | 1:29:12 | 1:29:14 | |
That's different than telling the truth? | 1:29:16 | 1:29:18 | |
You said, on June the 8th, 1986, | 1:29:20 | 1:29:23 | |
you set up the alibi in the car and he said, | 1:29:23 | 1:29:25 | |
"Buy a couple of movie tickets," and that was a lie, right? | 1:29:25 | 1:29:28 | |
Sometime, early in the afternoon, Jens dropped me off at the cinema. | 1:29:28 | 1:29:33 | |
He left and I went to the movie. | 1:29:33 | 1:29:34 | |
Miss Haysom, on June 8th, 1986, | 1:29:34 | 1:29:38 | |
you testified that you didn't go to the movies, right? | 1:29:38 | 1:29:41 | |
You want to think about that for a minute? | 1:29:41 | 1:29:43 | |
Make sure you've got it straight? | 1:29:43 | 1:29:45 | |
What's your shoe size? | 1:29:45 | 1:29:46 | |
8.5-9. | 1:29:47 | 1:29:48 | |
It is possible, then, that somebody who was involved in the murders | 1:29:50 | 1:29:54 | |
is still at large. | 1:29:54 | 1:29:56 | |
There's no question in my mind... | 1:29:56 | 1:29:58 | |
'You have 60 seconds remaining.' | 1:29:58 | 1:30:02 | |
I would like to say that I'm looking forward to the end, | 1:30:02 | 1:30:05 | |
but I'll believe it when I step off the plane | 1:30:05 | 1:30:08 | |
and experience a German grey sky | 1:30:08 | 1:30:11 | |
with lots of drizzle and no sunshine. | 1:30:11 | 1:30:13 | |
-Can't wait. -'You have ten seconds remaining.' | 1:30:13 | 1:30:18 | |
I'll call back, all right? | 1:30:18 | 1:30:19 | |
Did you want him to kill them? | 1:30:25 | 1:30:28 | |
Yes, I did. | 1:30:28 | 1:30:30 | |
I was much more concerned that he would not kill them | 1:30:30 | 1:30:35 | |
-than that he would, because, er... -Why? | 1:30:35 | 1:30:37 | |
Well, the whole idea of Jens killing anybody is so oddly fantastic. | 1:30:39 | 1:30:44 | |
What happened next? | 1:30:44 | 1:30:45 | |
He came back. He said that he had killed my parents. | 1:30:45 | 1:30:48 | |
He said that my father just wouldn't lie down and die. | 1:30:48 | 1:30:52 | |
We go back up to the room, Jens took a shower. | 1:30:53 | 1:30:56 | |
-What did you do? -I was sick. | 1:30:56 | 1:30:59 | |
It is a very odd feeling to have somebody in the room with you who, | 1:31:00 | 1:31:05 | |
in a period of 12 hours, killed two people. | 1:31:05 | 1:31:08 | |
You start having odd thoughts like, | 1:31:09 | 1:31:11 | |
are they going to roll over and kill you, too? | 1:31:11 | 1:31:13 | |
He made a joke about how tired he was and that it was exhausting. | 1:31:13 | 1:31:18 | |
I said, "Well, I guess it is." | 1:31:18 | 1:31:20 | |
Did you say anything to the police officers | 1:31:21 | 1:31:24 | |
-about what you've just told the jury? -No, I did not. | 1:31:24 | 1:31:28 | |
I, erm... | 1:31:28 | 1:31:29 | |
I lied about some... | 1:31:31 | 1:31:33 | |
You know, what happened. | 1:31:38 | 1:31:40 | |
I denied it. I had nothing to do with it. | 1:31:41 | 1:31:44 | |
He told me to go down to the car and take a bottle of Coca-Cola with me, | 1:32:07 | 1:32:13 | |
and to clean the blood in the car. | 1:32:13 | 1:32:17 | |
With...a bottle of Coca-Cola? | 1:32:17 | 1:32:19 | |
With Coca-Cola, yes, because apparently Coca-Cola eats anything. | 1:32:19 | 1:32:23 | |
Then I returned back to the room and... | 1:32:23 | 1:32:28 | |
-..Jens had gone to bed. -He had gone to bed? -Yes. | 1:32:30 | 1:32:33 | |
She said Jens came back and he was in a bloody sheet, | 1:32:37 | 1:32:41 | |
and the car was filled with blood, | 1:32:41 | 1:32:44 | |
and they went back to the hotel | 1:32:44 | 1:32:46 | |
and he told her to go down and wash the blood off with Coca-Cola. | 1:32:46 | 1:32:50 | |
I went to Charlottesville and I luminoled the inside of the car - | 1:32:51 | 1:32:56 | |
the floor board, the brake pedal, the gas pedal, | 1:32:56 | 1:33:01 | |
where blood or anything could have been - | 1:33:01 | 1:33:03 | |
and never got the first hit off of it. | 1:33:03 | 1:33:05 | |
If it's that much blood, | 1:33:05 | 1:33:07 | |
why did I not find some in the rental car when I luminoled it? | 1:33:07 | 1:33:12 | |
State your name, please, ma'am. | 1:33:12 | 1:33:14 | |
-Sylvia Moore. -Miss Moore, where are you employed? | 1:33:14 | 1:33:16 | |
Texaco and National Car Rental. | 1:33:16 | 1:33:19 | |
Pertaining to the rental of a Tibet automobile, | 1:33:19 | 1:33:22 | |
rented on the 29th of March, returned on the 31st of March, | 1:33:22 | 1:33:27 | |
how badly did it need cleaned? | 1:33:27 | 1:33:29 | |
The car didn't need cleaning at all. | 1:33:29 | 1:33:31 | |
-It didn't need cleaning at all? -No. It was spotless. | 1:33:31 | 1:33:35 | |
I know they clean the cars up, but I'm going to tell you, | 1:33:35 | 1:33:38 | |
somebody had to spend some time cleaning it up. | 1:33:38 | 1:33:40 | |
If there was any blood whatsoever in that car, | 1:33:40 | 1:33:42 | |
somebody had to do some real cleaning. | 1:33:42 | 1:33:44 | |
A couple of years ago, a guy in Lynchburg | 1:33:50 | 1:33:52 | |
said they brought a car to him to clean up | 1:33:52 | 1:33:55 | |
that had blood in it and all this kind of stuff. | 1:33:55 | 1:33:57 | |
He's saying that Elizabeth and another individual, | 1:33:58 | 1:34:01 | |
not Jens Soering, | 1:34:01 | 1:34:02 | |
brought this car to his shop for them to clean blood out of it. | 1:34:02 | 1:34:06 | |
I wanted to come and listen, see what you had to say. | 1:34:16 | 1:34:19 | |
The car was in my parking lot. | 1:34:30 | 1:34:32 | |
Some college kids had it towed. | 1:34:32 | 1:34:35 | |
Apparently they was stuck, or whatever. | 1:34:35 | 1:34:37 | |
Right. | 1:34:37 | 1:34:38 | |
This is the girl, as far as I'm concerned, was in the shop. | 1:34:43 | 1:34:46 | |
They had to sit there in front of me for at least 30 minutes. | 1:34:46 | 1:34:49 | |
The guy who signed, his hair had maybe a highlight in it | 1:34:49 | 1:34:53 | |
or his hair was funny. | 1:34:53 | 1:34:55 | |
This is the guy I'm thinking was in the shop. | 1:34:55 | 1:34:58 | |
Looks like the guy that was in the shop. | 1:34:59 | 1:35:01 | |
He's got some kind of doo-doo in his hair there. | 1:35:03 | 1:35:05 | |
Like he had six cans of hairspray in it to make it stand. | 1:35:05 | 1:35:09 | |
You know, stand out. | 1:35:09 | 1:35:11 | |
-Dear Mr -BLEEP, | 1:35:29 | 1:35:30 | |
you may be aware that a witness, Tony Buchanan, | 1:35:30 | 1:35:32 | |
was shown a picture of you and he recognised you | 1:35:32 | 1:35:35 | |
as the person who came to pick up a car | 1:35:35 | 1:35:38 | |
that contained a bloody knife that was placed in the front seat. | 1:35:38 | 1:35:43 | |
-Jim Farmer, Ned -BLEEP | 1:35:43 | 1:35:46 | |
and Elizabeth were in the same club at UVA. | 1:35:46 | 1:35:51 | |
It was called the Gay Club. | 1:35:51 | 1:35:53 | |
They were friends and they had similar aspects | 1:35:53 | 1:35:57 | |
to their lives and activities. | 1:35:57 | 1:35:59 | |
And the fact was that Ned rented out a room | 1:35:59 | 1:36:03 | |
to Elizabeth and Jens the summer of 1985. | 1:36:03 | 1:36:07 | |
About how long was it after all this came out | 1:36:07 | 1:36:11 | |
that they came to your place? | 1:36:11 | 1:36:13 | |
It was after hunting season. | 1:36:13 | 1:36:15 | |
Bubba's Towing brought that car in on a weekend. | 1:36:15 | 1:36:18 | |
He had said that it had come from some college kids. | 1:36:18 | 1:36:21 | |
The knife was down between the console and the seat. | 1:36:21 | 1:36:25 | |
Later on that year, | 1:36:25 | 1:36:26 | |
the police department had a picture in the paper. | 1:36:26 | 1:36:28 | |
They said, "This is the guy supposed to have did the murder," | 1:36:28 | 1:36:31 | |
and all this stuff. | 1:36:31 | 1:36:32 | |
I said, "This ain't the guy that came by the shop." | 1:36:32 | 1:36:34 | |
I said, "I think somebody else is involved in this murder." | 1:36:34 | 1:36:38 | |
So I called, I said, | 1:36:38 | 1:36:40 | |
"I think somebody else's involved | 1:36:40 | 1:36:42 | |
"and this is the way to check and see." | 1:36:42 | 1:36:44 | |
-Right. -He was just trying to brush me off. | 1:36:44 | 1:36:48 | |
I've never talked to Tony Buchanan about a knife being in a vehicle | 1:36:48 | 1:36:51 | |
and blood all in the vehicle? | 1:36:51 | 1:36:54 | |
That doesn't make any sense at all. | 1:36:54 | 1:36:56 | |
Because I had long distance. | 1:36:56 | 1:36:57 | |
'He's lying. It didn't happen.' | 1:36:57 | 1:36:59 | |
I don't know what Buchanan's motivation is. | 1:36:59 | 1:37:02 | |
I don't know if he's trying to | 1:37:02 | 1:37:04 | |
get his five minutes of fame or whatever, | 1:37:04 | 1:37:05 | |
but I certainly don't appreciate him | 1:37:05 | 1:37:07 | |
trying to interject himself in a homicide. | 1:37:07 | 1:37:10 | |
Tony Buchanan has no credibility to me. | 1:37:10 | 1:37:12 | |
I wouldn't know Tony Buchanan if he walked in that door right now. | 1:37:12 | 1:37:15 | |
This information that you're giving out, if nobody follows up on it, | 1:37:15 | 1:37:19 | |
we possibly could still have a murder suspect | 1:37:19 | 1:37:21 | |
running around out here. | 1:37:21 | 1:37:23 | |
There's always two sides to a story. | 1:37:23 | 1:37:25 | |
And you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. | 1:37:26 | 1:37:28 | |
I don't see where that's beyond a reasonable doubt. | 1:37:28 | 1:37:31 | |
-Hi. -Hello. -I'm trying to locate a Ned -BLEEP -that may live next door. | 1:37:36 | 1:37:40 | |
-He's probably working at the hotel in town. -OK, thank you. | 1:37:40 | 1:37:44 | |
-I'm trying to contact Ned -BLEEP. | 1:37:59 | 1:38:02 | |
Is he here, by any chance? | 1:38:02 | 1:38:03 | |
-Not here today. -It's about a case where two people were killed. | 1:38:03 | 1:38:07 | |
The people that have been arrested and charged with that | 1:38:08 | 1:38:11 | |
are in prison for life and everything. | 1:38:11 | 1:38:13 | |
He won't know what it is about. | 1:38:13 | 1:38:14 | |
He is obviously not in any trouble whatsoever. | 1:38:14 | 1:38:17 | |
So, if he could give me a call, if I'm still in the area, | 1:38:17 | 1:38:19 | |
-I'll stop by, have a beer with him. -OK. | 1:38:19 | 1:38:21 | |
-Wasn't he a bird-watcher or something? -He's a bird-watcher, | 1:38:21 | 1:38:24 | |
yes, he is. All right? | 1:38:24 | 1:38:25 | |
I've been going through this crap all day long, you know? | 1:38:25 | 1:38:28 | |
All right. | 1:38:28 | 1:38:29 | |
He responded and he said... | 1:38:37 | 1:38:39 | |
"Mrs Ball, I have no intention of becoming embroiled in this matter. | 1:38:39 | 1:38:44 | |
"I know nothing about the murders | 1:38:44 | 1:38:46 | |
"and I have no opinion about the murders. | 1:38:46 | 1:38:49 | |
"I have nothing else to say in this matter. | 1:38:49 | 1:38:52 | |
-"Edward -BLEEP." | 1:38:52 | 1:38:54 | |
State your name, please, sir. | 1:38:54 | 1:38:56 | |
Klaus Soering. | 1:38:56 | 1:38:57 | |
You are the father of the defendant, Jens Soering? | 1:38:57 | 1:38:59 | |
-Yes. -I'd like to show you some documents. | 1:38:59 | 1:39:02 | |
These were among Jen's things which I took from his dorm. | 1:39:07 | 1:39:11 | |
The tickets to a movie, witness. | 1:39:11 | 1:39:13 | |
Yes. Same things. | 1:39:13 | 1:39:15 | |
You don't have to repeat it every time. | 1:39:15 | 1:39:17 | |
Mr Soering, then you began developing different plans | 1:40:03 | 1:40:07 | |
-as to how you were going to get out of this. -No. | 1:40:07 | 1:40:10 | |
-You did not? -No. | 1:40:10 | 1:40:11 | |
"If I go to Germany..." | 1:40:13 | 1:40:14 | |
It's about three-quarters of the way down. | 1:40:16 | 1:40:18 | |
"If I go to Germany and get convicted, | 1:40:18 | 1:40:19 | |
"I will go away for only a few years and your trial in the US will not be | 1:40:19 | 1:40:23 | |
"a hyped-up emotional publicity thing since the star attraction, me, | 1:40:23 | 1:40:27 | |
-"is missing." -Thank you. | 1:40:27 | 1:40:28 | |
That's why... I was hoping to go to Germany, like I said. | 1:40:28 | 1:40:31 | |
-You're the star attraction, Mr Soering? -Well... Yes, obviously. | 1:40:31 | 1:40:35 | |
Because you're the one who did it. | 1:40:36 | 1:40:38 | |
I was the one who SAID I did it, yes. | 1:40:38 | 1:40:41 | |
Down that same page, writing to Elizabeth, | 1:40:41 | 1:40:43 | |
"My optimism is well-founded, sweetie. | 1:40:43 | 1:40:45 | |
"Remember, I'm always the pessimist. | 1:40:45 | 1:40:47 | |
"Not you. Those yokels don't know what's coming to them." | 1:40:47 | 1:40:49 | |
-That's right, I wrote that. -And you wrote it right after you'd made | 1:40:49 | 1:40:52 | |
a reference to me, didn't you? Here's the actual letter. | 1:40:52 | 1:40:55 | |
Well... | 1:40:55 | 1:40:56 | |
Mr Updike, the reason why I wrote that is that I was personally | 1:40:58 | 1:41:01 | |
-surprised that we managed to convince you people. -Shut up. | 1:41:01 | 1:41:06 | |
-He's my client. -I know that, and I'm not criticising you for saying that. | 1:41:08 | 1:41:12 | |
I encourage you to say it any time you want. | 1:41:12 | 1:41:14 | |
So much of the case depends on whether jurors | 1:41:14 | 1:41:17 | |
believe Jens Soering's story or Elizabeth Haysom. | 1:41:17 | 1:41:20 | |
Attorneys from both sides will get one final chance to sway the jury | 1:41:20 | 1:41:24 | |
in closing arguments tomorrow, then the rest will be in their hands. | 1:41:24 | 1:41:28 | |
Pan Windsor, News Center 13, Bedford. | 1:41:28 | 1:41:30 | |
I have been asked by the parents of my client | 1:41:32 | 1:41:35 | |
to read a statement to the court on their behalf. | 1:41:35 | 1:41:38 | |
They are unable to be here today. | 1:41:38 | 1:41:40 | |
"We find it very hard to believe that our son could have committed | 1:41:41 | 1:41:45 | |
"such a violent crime. The killing of anything or anyone | 1:41:45 | 1:41:49 | |
"has always been so totally against his nature. | 1:41:49 | 1:41:52 | |
"We know that Jens loved Elizabeth Haysom very much. | 1:41:52 | 1:41:56 | |
"And he was blind to her obvious storytelling. | 1:41:57 | 1:41:59 | |
"However, despite our son's deep love for Elizabeth, | 1:42:01 | 1:42:05 | |
"we do not believe that Jens killed Elizabeth's parents. | 1:42:05 | 1:42:09 | |
"We also have some questions about the trial. | 1:42:09 | 1:42:11 | |
"Why did Judge Sweeney not remove himself from Jens's case | 1:42:13 | 1:42:17 | |
"after it became known that he had been a friend | 1:42:17 | 1:42:20 | |
"of Mrs Haysom's brother for about 40 years?" | 1:42:20 | 1:42:22 | |
Thank you. | 1:42:24 | 1:42:26 | |
I would only say, in my own defence, that the public is my judge. | 1:42:26 | 1:42:31 | |
A lot of people saw this case. | 1:42:31 | 1:42:33 | |
If they feel that the trial which I conducted was conducted unfairly | 1:42:33 | 1:42:37 | |
because of some relationship with one of the parties, | 1:42:37 | 1:42:40 | |
not a close relationship, then so be it. | 1:42:40 | 1:42:42 | |
The German Federal Government strongly promotes parole | 1:42:43 | 1:42:47 | |
and the subsequent deportation of Mr Soering. | 1:42:47 | 1:42:50 | |
Soering has shown excellent institutional adjustment | 1:42:50 | 1:42:54 | |
with absolutely no record of institutional infractions. | 1:42:54 | 1:42:58 | |
Soering has not had a history of violence before his arrest. | 1:42:58 | 1:43:02 | |
Germany stands ready to take Mr Soering back to our country | 1:43:02 | 1:43:06 | |
immediately and without any precondition. | 1:43:06 | 1:43:09 | |
And we know that Virginians believe in mercy | 1:43:09 | 1:43:11 | |
and we think that the time has come to have mercy with Jens Soering. | 1:43:11 | 1:43:16 | |
Thank you. | 1:43:16 | 1:43:17 | |
Members of the jury, you have a commonwealth that's saying | 1:43:17 | 1:43:21 | |
that Jens Soering did it alone | 1:43:21 | 1:43:23 | |
and you have a defence that says Elizabeth Haysom did it, | 1:43:23 | 1:43:27 | |
and more likely with one other accomplice at the scene. | 1:43:27 | 1:43:29 | |
He doesn't want to give any blood, | 1:43:29 | 1:43:31 | |
he doesn't want to give any footprints, | 1:43:31 | 1:43:32 | |
what Jens Soering wants to do is get out of the country! | 1:43:32 | 1:43:34 | |
On the tickets right here, the time is 10:15pm. | 1:43:34 | 1:43:38 | |
Elizabeth Haysom, who was supposedly the alibi, said, | 1:43:38 | 1:43:41 | |
"I definitely bought the last ticket | 1:43:41 | 1:43:43 | |
"at about four o'clock in the afternoon," | 1:43:43 | 1:43:45 | |
and, ladies and gentlemen, | 1:43:45 | 1:43:47 | |
you can't go to a four o'clock movie at 10:15pm at night. | 1:43:47 | 1:43:51 | |
That is a reasonable doubt in this case. | 1:43:51 | 1:43:53 | |
Now, he gets up here and he said, | 1:43:53 | 1:43:56 | |
"Elizabeth was up there buying the tickets, | 1:43:56 | 1:43:58 | |
"Elizabeth was doing this..." | 1:43:58 | 1:43:59 | |
All right, so he hauls it out of the country... | 1:43:59 | 1:44:04 | |
goes all over Europe and they get caught in England. | 1:44:04 | 1:44:07 | |
Now, at that point, ladies and gentlemen, | 1:44:07 | 1:44:08 | |
they write letters to each other again. | 1:44:08 | 1:44:10 | |
"All along, I made the mistakes." | 1:44:10 | 1:44:13 | |
He is writing this to Elizabeth Haysom. | 1:44:13 | 1:44:15 | |
It's cold-blooded, calculated, mean and violent. | 1:44:15 | 1:44:21 | |
This man can get on this stand, first-degree murder charges, | 1:44:21 | 1:44:25 | |
talk about this, try to put on a little performance | 1:44:25 | 1:44:28 | |
and laugh at times. | 1:44:28 | 1:44:30 | |
Cold. | 1:44:30 | 1:44:31 | |
This cheque, ladies and gentlemen, that Jens says that he cashed, | 1:44:31 | 1:44:36 | |
it's clearly cashed at the Marriot in Washington, DC. | 1:44:36 | 1:44:40 | |
It's his signature on it. | 1:44:40 | 1:44:41 | |
Elizabeth Haysom does not testify about any cheque being cashed. | 1:44:41 | 1:44:46 | |
Why? Because she didn't know that it was cashed, | 1:44:46 | 1:44:49 | |
because she wasn't there when it was cashed, ladies and gentlemen. | 1:44:49 | 1:44:53 | |
I say to you that there is stronger evidence at the scene of the crime | 1:44:53 | 1:44:57 | |
that suggests that Elizabeth Haysom was there | 1:44:57 | 1:45:00 | |
and she was with an accomplice who is still in Bedford County, | 1:45:00 | 1:45:04 | |
or some place in these United States. | 1:45:04 | 1:45:06 | |
Cold. | 1:45:06 | 1:45:07 | |
He needs to be convicted of first-degree murder, | 1:45:11 | 1:45:13 | |
sentenced to life imprisonment. | 1:45:13 | 1:45:15 | |
It's the only just punishment. | 1:45:15 | 1:45:17 | |
The burden of proof is on the Commonwealth. | 1:45:17 | 1:45:20 | |
Unless they can prove he was there beyond a reasonable doubt, | 1:45:20 | 1:45:23 | |
you have to acquit. | 1:45:23 | 1:45:24 | |
I think the fact he was not from that county | 1:45:24 | 1:45:28 | |
and she was | 1:45:28 | 1:45:30 | |
did play a role. | 1:45:30 | 1:45:32 | |
The jury had a choice of saying, | 1:45:32 | 1:45:35 | |
"Oh, this young girl who grew up right down the street from us | 1:45:35 | 1:45:38 | |
"killed her parents," or, "This outsider that we don't know did it." | 1:45:38 | 1:45:44 | |
It very difficult for a jury to... | 1:45:44 | 1:45:47 | |
..decide that a person actually killed their own parents. | 1:45:48 | 1:45:52 | |
That's a thought you don't even want to have in your own head. | 1:45:52 | 1:45:56 | |
Jens Soering, would you stand? | 1:45:59 | 1:46:01 | |
Jens Soering, do you know of any reason why this court | 1:46:07 | 1:46:10 | |
should not now pronounce judgment and sentence in your case? | 1:46:10 | 1:46:14 | |
-Yes, I do. -You may speak. | 1:46:14 | 1:46:16 | |
I'm innocent. | 1:46:18 | 1:46:19 | |
In accordance with the jury verdict, | 1:46:23 | 1:46:25 | |
the court sentences you to life imprisonment | 1:46:25 | 1:46:29 | |
in each of the two cases. | 1:46:29 | 1:46:31 | |
The sentences are to run consecutively and not concurrently. | 1:46:31 | 1:46:34 | |
That's all. The accused is remanded to jail. | 1:46:37 | 1:46:40 | |
CLAMOUR | 1:46:40 | 1:46:43 | |
-Do you still say you're innocent? -Anything, Jens? | 1:46:43 | 1:46:46 | |
I told you to back off of me. | 1:46:46 | 1:46:48 | |
Get back on the sidewalk. | 1:46:50 | 1:46:51 | |
She's been turned down for parole 15 times. | 1:47:59 | 1:48:01 | |
She has mandatory parole in... | 1:48:04 | 1:48:05 | |
..2032. | 1:48:07 | 1:48:09 | |
She'll be 68 years old. | 1:48:09 | 1:48:11 | |
And remember how young they were when they were... | 1:48:14 | 1:48:17 | |
..together. | 1:48:18 | 1:48:20 | |
They're both middle-aged now. | 1:48:20 | 1:48:21 | |
Jens Soering is still clinging to hope | 1:48:23 | 1:48:25 | |
that he's going to find something, something that will set him free. | 1:48:25 | 1:48:28 | |
Soering continues to maintain his innocence and tonight, | 1:48:28 | 1:48:31 | |
there is a new twist to his case. | 1:48:31 | 1:48:33 | |
A page right out of The Fugitive. | 1:48:33 | 1:48:35 | |
We ought to kick him out as soon as we safely can. | 1:48:55 | 1:48:57 | |
In this instance, we could safely do it with a guarantee | 1:48:57 | 1:49:00 | |
that he wouldn't come back | 1:49:00 | 1:49:02 | |
and I felt that was sufficient to make a recommendation | 1:49:02 | 1:49:05 | |
to the Justice Department. | 1:49:05 | 1:49:07 | |
I went down to visit him in Buckingham County | 1:49:07 | 1:49:09 | |
after it was announced that Kaine was going to have him deported | 1:49:09 | 1:49:13 | |
and, of course, he was ecstatic. | 1:49:13 | 1:49:14 | |
He was just crazy, here he was, he couldn't believe how free he was. | 1:49:14 | 1:49:19 | |
Because he felt that they were going to pick him up, throw him in a car | 1:49:42 | 1:49:45 | |
and take him to the airport and deport him. | 1:49:45 | 1:49:47 | |
And it was the happiest I'd ever seen him. | 1:49:47 | 1:49:50 | |
Please welcome Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell. | 1:50:00 | 1:50:03 | |
Thank you. | 1:50:03 | 1:50:04 | |
Then, of course, everything started to fall apart. | 1:50:29 | 1:50:31 | |
Good evening, my fellow Republicans. | 1:50:31 | 1:50:33 | |
When I was trying to have his | 1:50:53 | 1:50:55 | |
conviction overturned... | 1:50:55 | 1:50:57 | |
..the Virginia authorities threatened that, | 1:50:59 | 1:51:02 | |
if the conviction was overturned, | 1:51:02 | 1:51:04 | |
they would try him with the death penalty. | 1:51:04 | 1:51:06 | |
That was their threat, | 1:51:06 | 1:51:08 | |
that if the trial got overturned and we had to try him again, | 1:51:08 | 1:51:12 | |
all bets were off. | 1:51:12 | 1:51:13 | |
The system in Virginia... | 1:51:13 | 1:51:15 | |
..seems broken. | 1:51:17 | 1:51:18 | |
I will do what I can to make it right. | 1:51:22 | 1:51:25 | |
"I'm writing these lines Saturday morning at ten. | 1:51:28 | 1:51:32 | |
"Pretty much certain 2013 is another lost year. | 1:51:32 | 1:51:35 | |
"All outside rec is cancelled due to extreme fog. | 1:51:35 | 1:51:39 | |
"That's where I am this first day of 2013. | 1:51:39 | 1:51:42 | |
"It's just that it's so lonely. | 1:51:42 | 1:51:45 | |
"26 years, eight months, four days of this crap. | 1:51:45 | 1:51:48 | |
"And oh, so many more to come. | 1:51:48 | 1:51:51 | |
"Yes, last night I watched a movie made in 2011 | 1:51:51 | 1:51:54 | |
"about the making of Paul Simon's Graceland. | 1:51:54 | 1:51:57 | |
"I remember that album. | 1:51:57 | 1:51:58 | |
"It was a huge hit in 1986, the year I was arrested. | 1:51:58 | 1:52:03 | |
"The hair, the eyeglasses of that era, the last time I was free. | 1:52:03 | 1:52:07 | |
"And the music, of course, brought me back to that time. | 1:52:07 | 1:52:11 | |
"Seeing how Paul Simon aged | 1:52:11 | 1:52:13 | |
"just opened up inside of me a feeling of vertigo. | 1:52:13 | 1:52:16 | |
"Joy and happiness were not only possible for me in 1986, | 1:52:16 | 1:52:20 | |
"they were actually real. | 1:52:20 | 1:52:22 | |
"I remembered them even though I haven't felt them in 27 years. | 1:52:22 | 1:52:27 | |
"What I really wanted to write to you about is the next visit. | 1:52:27 | 1:52:30 | |
"When do you want to come? You last came on 11th December. | 1:52:30 | 1:52:34 | |
"Do you want to come on the 15th of January? | 1:52:34 | 1:52:36 | |
"I want to thank you so much for continuing to fight with me. | 1:52:37 | 1:52:40 | |
"You're doing so much, but also on an emotional level, | 1:52:41 | 1:52:44 | |
"I'm also glad you're with me. | 1:52:44 | 1:52:47 | |
"I regret losing my faith. | 1:52:47 | 1:52:48 | |
"It's not what I wanted to choose. | 1:52:48 | 1:52:51 | |
"I'm so tired of being alone. | 1:52:51 | 1:52:53 | |
"Thank you for everything. | 1:52:53 | 1:52:55 | |
"All the best and thank you again, yours, Jens." | 1:52:55 | 1:52:58 | |
-You ready? -Yeah. | 1:53:20 | 1:53:21 | |
# I put a spell on you | 1:53:25 | 1:53:28 | |
# Because you're mine | 1:53:33 | 1:53:37 | |
# You better stop the things that you're doing | 1:53:41 | 1:53:44 | |
# I ain't lyin' | 1:53:49 | 1:53:52 | |
# No, I ain't lyin' | 1:53:52 | 1:53:54 | |
# I just can't stand it, babe | 1:53:57 | 1:53:59 | |
# The way you always put me down | 1:54:00 | 1:54:03 | |
# I just can't stand it | 1:54:04 | 1:54:06 | |
# The way you're always runnin' round | 1:54:08 | 1:54:12 | |
# I put a spell on you | 1:54:12 | 1:54:14 | |
# Because you're mine | 1:54:18 | 1:54:21 | |
# I put a spell on you | 1:54:25 | 1:54:27 | |
# Because you're mine | 1:54:31 | 1:54:38 | |
# You better stop the things that you do | 1:54:38 | 1:54:41 | |
# Oh, Lord | 1:54:41 | 1:54:43 | |
# I know, I know, I know, I know I'm not lyin | 1:54:43 | 1:54:46 | |
# Yeah, you know I'm not lyin' | 1:54:46 | 1:54:49 | |
# I just can't stand it, babe | 1:54:51 | 1:54:53 | |
# No, the way you always runnin' round | 1:54:53 | 1:54:58 | |
# I just can't stand it | 1:54:58 | 1:54:59 | |
# Oh, no | 1:54:59 | 1:55:01 | |
# The way you always put me down | 1:55:01 | 1:55:04 | |
# I put a spell on you | 1:55:04 | 1:55:06 | |
# Because, because you're mine | 1:55:09 | 1:55:12 | |
# You gotta show me one time and I know | 1:55:12 | 1:55:15 | |
# I know you're mine | 1:55:15 | 1:55:16 | |
# I put a spell on you | 1:55:16 | 1:55:19 | |
# I just can't stand it | 1:55:19 | 1:55:20 | |
# I put a spell | 1:55:20 | 1:55:22 | |
# I put a spell on you... | 1:55:22 | 1:55:25 | |
# I put a spell on you. # | 1:55:31 | 1:55:33 |