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OJ SIMPSON: I'm ready to retire. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
For the last couple of years I've gotten very busy on the off-season. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Mainly because, early in my career, I had those rough years in Buffalo. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
I sort of told myself then I would put my energies | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
into something that was going to sustain me and last. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
I knew then that I would have trouble adjusting | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
to not being a football player. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
So, I said, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:31 | |
"Hey, I better start preparing myself for... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
"for, you know...now." | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
I want to tell you that, over the years, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
I've heard your applause and I've appreciated your cheers. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
And I want you to know... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
that I already know it's what I'm going to miss most. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
Thank you all, very much. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
Growing up in Brentwood was really a wonderful experience. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
It's very quiet. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
It's very affluent. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Very safe. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
And very white. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Burglaries were very rare. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Violent crime almost non-existent. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
You could leave your door unlocked. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Never have to worry about anything. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
I graduated the academy in 1975. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
And then transferred to West LA 1978-79. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
West LA, the whole division, Bel Air, Brentwood, all... | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
it's loaded with stars. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
And I'd sit back and go, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
"Man, am I really getting paid for doing this?" | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
When I first got there, OJ had just moved from around Mulholland | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
over to Rockingham. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
OJ Simpson living in Brentwood was really an anomaly. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
He'd be one of, like, maybe three black people | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
in the entire community. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
Los Angeles is unlike other places. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
If you're a celebrity, you have no colour. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
People enjoy having you in their neighbourhood, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
especially if you're a celebrity like OJ, where everyone's husband | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
worshipped him as a sports hero | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
and couldn't wait to shake hands. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Once I found out he was living on Rockingham, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
I decided I'd go by there and, you know, and let him know... | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
"Hey, you know? OJ, I'm here. This is where I work." | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
OJ was great. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
He'd always referred to the LAPD guys as "the boys". You know? | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
"How's crime today? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
"Hey, Shipp, what's going on in my area, man? | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
"Is you keeping the peace?" | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
You know, stuff like that. I'd be like, "Hey, man, everything's good." | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
70%, 80% of the people in the city of Los Angeles, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
were thinking LAPD does a great job, we don't have crime here. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
They thought out in the Valley or West Los Angeles, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
"Hey, man, they're great. They smile. They wave. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
"They're always around when you need them." | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Well, that wasn't how other parts of the city were being treated. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
On January 3rd, 1979, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
two members of the Los Angeles Police Department | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
shot and killed Eulia Love at her home, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
in a dispute over a 22.09 utility bill. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
She died on her front lawn | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
before the eyes of her own children. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
There is no single event that had a more profound impact | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
in LAPD history up to that point in time | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
than the shooting of Eulia May Love. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
This is where Mrs Eulia Love stood the day the shooting took place. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
There was an officer here, an officer there. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
She held a knife in her hand, there was a scuffle, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
the knife was knocked out of her hand, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
she reached for it and, as she threw it, the officers opened fire. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
This was a big deal. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
This is a woman who has had a tough time. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
And she was desperate. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
So there was a lot of empathy going out to her from the community. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Once again, we have a member of the black community dead, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
under circumstances that are highly questionable, at best. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
It has been determined that the evidence does not warrant | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
the filing of criminal charges. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
This was a justifiable homicide, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
committed by the officers in their own self-defence. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
As far as LAPD was concerned, it was just an event. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
And everybody was supposed to accept it. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
This was on the lips and minds of everybody in the community. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
The people are going to get justice and it's going to be in the street. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
It didn't help that you had a police chief who behaved poorly | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
and, in many ways, irresponsibly. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
And I've commented on the media squeezing out the last, er... | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
tear of emotion in this situation, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
where they talk about a 22 gas bill. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
It doesn't make any difference, but it was, er... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
a 69 gas bill. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
Gates was Gates. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
He's going to be fully supportive of his officers. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I guess they don't think I have any sympathy for anyone, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
other than police officers, and that's simply not true. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
I have great empathy and sympathy for Eulia Love and her family. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
Deeply sorry that it happened, but it did happen. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
I... | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
was a big fan of Daryl Francis Gates. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Gates introduced the SWAT model of law enforcement, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
introduced the DARE programme to all of law enforcement. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
So he was an innovator. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
But he was also a controversial guy. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-GATES: -We have officers out there doing the job. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Attempting to make good judgment, based on the information they have, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
protecting themselves | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
and protecting the people of the city of Los Angeles, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
that we go to hell for. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
He loved LAPD. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
He loved his officers. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
And there were times that I believe that his love for his officers... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
and the law enforcement mission... | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
..conflicted. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:02 | |
-TV PRESENTER: -OJ Simpson and Elizabeth Montgomery | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
are two police detectives who have a problem. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
They're falling in love and it's breaking all the rules. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
But you are a married man and your conduct is supposed to be exemplary. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Would it make any difference if I was a white cop? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
-TV PRESENTER: -It's a bittersweet story | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
of two people caught between their emotions and their actions | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
in A Killing Affair. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Sunday at 3:00 on Channel 9. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
Life for a black person, in a way, unfortunately, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
is different than for white people. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
And especially for black people who attain great success. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Is there pressure from your community | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
for you to really walk the straight and narrow? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
I know that you are currently dating a white woman. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
I wouldn't be asking this question | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
if we were living in different times, but we are | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
and there seems to be this sort of dichotomy here. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
How do you answer it? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
Well, I rebel against images because, then, erm... | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
you know, people tend to expect things from you. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
I think I created an image by being me. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
When I get into these arguments with people of the bla... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
of my community, the black community, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
I say, "Hey, I've accepted Jesus Christ" | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
"and I try to do unto others as, you know, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
"I would have them do unto me. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
"And after that, hey, my life is mine." | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
And I do what is morally right and acceptable to me. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
I am not prejudiced in any form. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Obviously, I got a white girlfriend. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
I admired his celebrity status. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
We thought he had accomplished quite a bit. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
To move from an athlete... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
to a position of celebrity | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
and loved by all the people, not just black folk. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
GOSPEL SINGING | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
I invited OJ here, early on in the '80s. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
He didn't come as often as I thought he should. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
But he did come to church. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
I think he was very in tune with who his mother wanted him to be. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
She wanted him to be honest, to be religious. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Just to rise above a lot of the things | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
that he saw growing up. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
His mother was a staunch Christian. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
And she had embedded within him the tenets of Jesus Christ. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
I would talk to him about having achieved money and fame. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
But all that came from God. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
And there are times when you should... | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
respond to how good God has been to you. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Now, some days, depending on his mood, he would agree. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
But he was not out there publicly, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
fighting for African-Americans. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
I think each person who is in the limelight | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
has an obligation | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
to make things better for the last, the lost, the least, the left out | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
and the looked over. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
And I thought he should have done more. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
If we, as black people, do not take on the responsibility | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
to do something for ourselves, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
we really should be scorned in the eyes of the world. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
In my circles, there were not a lot of people | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
who were preoccupying themselves | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
with getting to OJ or believing that OJ could be turned around | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
or, someday, was going to come to his senses | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
and embrace all of the things that have the values that we had, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
in terms of really, really doing something demonstrative | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
for the black community. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
OJ was just one of those things that you just kind of dismissed, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
"Oh, that brother's a lost cause." | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
His voice was mute | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
on any issues that related to black people and our salvation, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
police brutality, all of those things. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
He was just a non-entity. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
I don't know that he felt that he was sacrificing | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
what other people thought he was. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
But you're sacrificing who you are. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Who you are raised to be. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
How does one sustain that over that period of time? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
How does one bend one's soul to that degree of denial? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
See, he's laying on the ground, bleeding to death. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Is that what makes you happy? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
HE SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Did you hear? Did you see what was going on? | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
Did he see everything happening in South Central? Yeah. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Did he want to take that home with him? | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Did he want that to be who he was? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Who he identified with? No. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
He stayed in Brentwood. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
When you live in South LA... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
I mean, you live here, this is where you breathe, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
this is where you occupy your space. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
I'm not sure if, you know, a lot of people even know where Brentwood is. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
That's just the reality of black America and white America. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
Two totally separate worlds. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
ORCHESTRA PLAYS RAGTIME MUSIC | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
He's somebody who learned how to live with, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
be totally accepted by a white world. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
MUSIC CONTINUES | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Underneath that, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
he learned all of the indignities of the black world. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
Although it's impossible to believe that he's that brilliant an actor, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
I think he was always kind of "on" when he was in a white world | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
and he weren't when he was in a black world. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Which makes him the right soul for Coalhouse Walker. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
He very much wanted to be cast in EL Doctorow's Ragtime. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
And he worked hard | 0:13:20 | 0:13:21 | |
on trying to get that part. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
He saw the part as being something | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
that he could go into a new dimension as an actor. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Let's go to your acting career for a moment. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Why did you want the role of Coalhouse Walker Jr? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Well, first of all, it, erm... | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
it was the only part thus far | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
that I've ever actively went after and didn't get. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
So, I'd consider it my only failure in film. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
Thus far. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
Good afternoon. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
I wonder if you might be able to help me. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Er...what do you want? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Well, I'm looking for a young woman of colour called Sarah. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
Er,...who are you? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
Oh, I'm sorry. My name is Coalhouse Walker Jr. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
When I read the book, I could identify with this guy so much. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
He was a black man at a time | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
when you were supposed to know you were black. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
You were supposed to know you had a place. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Would you please wait around the back? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
I was raised in the sports world, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
where you're only judged by your abilities | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
and, you know, what you have to give. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Who is Coalhouse? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
Well, he's a guy who created himself. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
And destroyed himself, ultimately. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
ANGRY SHOUTING | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
He was a guy who, among other things who was very prideful and suffered. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Suffered for his pride. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Mr Walker, let me give you some advice. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
You spend the money on your wedding. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Build yourself a home and a family where you can find some comfort. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
And just forget that some damn white man caused you offence. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
I can understand exactly what he felt. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
When he walked in a room, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
he gave no credence to the fact he was black | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
and he wasn't supposed to say things or be treated any differently. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
And, er...that's the way I've tried to look at my life. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
So I felt I was the right person for that role. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
I felt that I was today's Coalhouse Walker. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Just forget it? Is that it? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
I've spent my whole life forgetting. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
You're a young man. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
You'd better start learning now. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Learning what? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
How to be a nigger? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
You know, there was some tragedy in your life in the last 10 years. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
You lost a child. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
I want to talk about how it changed you. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
The baby drowned in a swimming pool. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
On Rockingham, there. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
He was away. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
You know, he was always gone. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
Four, set! | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
I don't know how much it changed me. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
I've always tried to live my life to the fullest and, er... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
I used to be so busy. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
And I was on the road so much that, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
in a sense, it partially cost me a marriage. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
When I lost my daughter... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
I was gone. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
When my first daughter was born, I was gone. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
When you lose a child, it's very hard. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Three weeks before Aaren drowned, my son drowned in a pool, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
that Boys' Club in San Leandro, California. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
So the tragedy affected us both. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
It still affects me. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
So I know how it affects him. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
He didn't bring it up and we didn't talk much about it. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Hey, OJ! | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
I think it's the single most horrible thing in the world. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
I think what you learn in the streets | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
is how to bury things. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
And he blamed Marguerite. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
He got rid of that memory when he got rid of that wife. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
He just compartmentalised it... | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
..and got them out. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
If anything, I made up my mind that I would be around. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
And, er... it's nice to be loved by everybody. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
But there's some people that love you a little more. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
So I guess, if anything, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
I just want to be a little more loving | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
and be there a little more to the people | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
that have chosen to share their lives with me. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
And now by the authority committed unto me | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
as a minister in the church of Jesus Christ | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
and according to the laws in the State of California, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
it gives me great delight, OJ and Nicole, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
to pronounce you husband and wife. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
MUSIC: Uptight (Everything's Alright) by Stevie Wonder | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
We love "Juice" like my brother. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
I'm thrilled he's my partner and we're just... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
totally knocked out that he finally took the step. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
MUSIC: Jump (For My Love) by The Pointer Sisters | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
They had a great wedding. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
Of course, they had amazing music. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
And it was all, you know, Cristal champagne, all you could drink. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Where are the drugs? No, I'm just kidding. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
It was a great party. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
And they made a really strong, gorgeous couple. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
I just felt that they were the ideal couple. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Because it seems like to me, from what I saw, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
it seemed like they just had so much fun all the time. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
I'm married! I don't believe it! | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
I'm married! I really don't believe it. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Nicole was funny and she was fun to be around. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
She was a very good friend. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
When Nicole came into my life at, what for any athlete, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
is a very difficult time, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
it was at the end of my career. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
I was also going through a divorce at the time and, er... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
all my life, I wanted to be a father. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
I never really thought about being a husband. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
And I thought I had given up... | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
the opportunity to watch my kids grow | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
until you came into my life and made this house a home, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
brought my kids in. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
You brought love into my house. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
He was really proud of her. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
And she had definitely taken over. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
I mean, she was running the show at Rockingham. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
Rockingham, it was his Graceland. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
It was all of their Graceland. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
We never said, "I'll meet you at OJ's house." | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
It was always, "I'll see you at Rockingham." | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
It was what brought all of us together. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
It was a special place. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:43 | |
I mean, you never knew who was going to be there. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
He gravitated toward celebrities. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
In any field. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
And that's the glue that bonded him to Los Angeles | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
and also made Rockingham that castle. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
You'd have the greatest athletes in the world show up. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Some of the most interesting politicians, you know? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
The entertainment world. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
And everybody always had a wonderful time | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
because it was "The Juice". | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
I've always had a large, what I call "family". | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
A large circle of friends, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
and you need them more, I guess, in your life. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
And my house... I mean, I have to be successful | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
to pay for the soft drinks and the beer | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
that the guys drink at the house on the weekends! | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
He flew a flag at Rockingham every day. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
He loved America. He loved the red, white and blue. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
He loved that feeling that you get, you know, on the 4th of July | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
and see jets fly over. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
During the Olympics, when he carried the torch, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
that was a big thing to him. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
That was one of the things we talked about for years after. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
How perfect the world was then. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
I want to say to the Hall of Fame members here, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
I mean, as a kid, I watched these guys | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
and, well, I must have done something good | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
or something right to be here. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
And I just want you to know that I'll never let you guys down, man. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
I'll live up to the honour of being in this Hall and being on your team. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
The most unique aspect of OJ Simpson | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
is that you're one of the few people | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
who've not only been successful in athletics, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
but that success has really carried over to life after football. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
Well, it's real exciting for me to be back here. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
You know, on the field where I had so many thrills | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and to experience these Buffalo Bills fans. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
And, believe me, Howard, they're in rare form tonight. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
Well, he certainly tried to be a commentator. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Peyton following Matt Suhey. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
It's a testament to Walk... Walter's conditioning. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
This guy works out harder than anybody and he... | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
He very much was involved in corporate America | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
and being on boards. | 0:21:58 | 0:21:59 | |
I think he was trying, very intelligently, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
to parley his fame into wealth. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
By the '80s, OJ really was a businessman. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
His new friends were all super wealthy, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
powerful white men. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
And I think, really, the reason he surrounded himself | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
with all these big, successful entrepreneurs | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
is because he saw himself as one, too. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
I've always been, sort of, an inquisitive person. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
And I have friends who do a lot of different things. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
And I've made it a point to find out | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
what the people around me were doing. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
He called me a lot. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
"Now, Frank, I have this opportunity for HoneyBaked Hams." | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
Or, "Frank, this friend of mine | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
"is doing some storage things in California." | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
I didn't always know those answers. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
But I guess I enjoyed the fact that he trusted me enough to do that. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
I introduced him to the business world. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
I took him places | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
where I think very few black men had ever been. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
The Pine Valley Golf Club. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
The number-one club in America. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I got him into Arcola. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -He was the first black member of the club, no? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Oh, yeah, by a long shot. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
This one time, he brought Sidney Poitier. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
And, of course, the whole club was circling around the two of them. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
Even the bigots thought that was terrific. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
They loved him. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Because he'd just fit in. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
He could schmooze around and get ingratiated, cos he was "The Juice". | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Street-smart, this man was an Einstein. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
He could cunningly and calculatingly | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
figure out exactly what these white people were thinking about. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
But he was also that way with black people. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
It was almost magnetic, they were just drawn to it. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
And I don't care who was there, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
when he got to the room, it was, "The Juice is here." | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Here's the man whose smile is more dazzling | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
than all his golden awards. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
Sportsman, actor, all-around wonderful | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Mr OJ Simpson! | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
I always told him he had delusions of grandeur. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
He thought he could do certain things in business | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
that he wasn't capable of. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
-AUDIENCE: -Three! | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
One day he was going to run Paramount or 20th Century, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Warner Brothers... | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Now, I mean, he believed things like that. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, another winning performance | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
from Mr OJ Simpson! | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
There's something deep-seated that I think a lot of people like myself | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
have to face up to | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
about what created this complex character. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
It wasn't just him. It was part society. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
We were looking for a celebrity. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
And I...don't think we wanted an all-white cast any more, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
as we did for the Police Squad TV show. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
This was something that, you know, kind of looked better for us. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
He was still in the public eye but, yet, he was economical, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
because I don't think he was in demand for movies. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
Police! | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Throw down your guns! | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
OJ was fine for Naked Gun. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
There was nobody better. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
GUNFIRE | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Urgh! | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
SIZZLING Argh! | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Oh, no! | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Naked Gun surprised me... | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
HE SCREAMS | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
..how funny he was. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
He's a funny man. I mean, he was always a very funny man. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
And he was always a selflessly funny man. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
-Nordberg! -Hiya, buddy! -Hey! | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
The doc says I should be on my feet and as good as new in a week! | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-And back on the force. -Nordberg, that's wonderful! | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
-Whoa! -Oh, Frank! | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Everyone should have a friend like you! | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Argh! | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
I used to take a lot of cops over to OJ's house | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
and I would never tell them who we were going to meet. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
And I just loved looking at the expression on my partner's face | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
when they looked and saw OJ opening the door | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
and it was just like looking at... | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
You know, cos some of these guys, you know, macho cops. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
"Hey," you know, "I'm LAPD." | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
And you could see them melt like little kids around this guy. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
Everybody loved OJ Simpson, all the cops. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
If you asked him for an autograph, you asked him for whatever, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
I mean, he was just really, like, your best friend. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Now, let's take a look at today's black culture | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
in the city of Los Angeles. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
The most important point that should be considered | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
in a law-enforcement setting involving blacks | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
is the matter of respect. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Everyone should be treated in a respectful manner. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
-POLICE RADIO: -OK, 4-23, you see that male black. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
He's walking on the north side of the street there on your right side. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
That's one of the suspects. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
POLICE RADIO CHATTER | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
People who have been abused by the police have no regard for them. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
They don't believe that the police comes to protect them, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
comes to serve them. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
That would be an unfortunate error in judgment | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
for you to conclude that all persons of a particular group | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
are similar to the few you have contact while you are working. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
We're sorry, but, you know, it's our job, too, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
that we've had to do this. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
We just can't let you go. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
'Look how I look.' | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
I'm light, bright, but damn sure not white. OK? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
But the reality is, when I'm stopped by the police, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
you know, they treat me like a nigger. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
OK, let's roll and let's be careful out there. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
In 1978, Los Angeles police chief Daryl Gates apologised | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
after saying some Hispanic officers | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
don't advance in the ranks because they are "lazy". | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
And now an NAACP official is calling a comment by Chief Gates, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
"so horrendous that it's laughable." | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
-TV: -It all started when he first defended controversial chokeholds. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
A number of African-American suspects had died after being | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
subjected to a chokehold. And Gates was asked about it | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
and he said the problem was that | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
they didn't respond the same as normal people. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
The chief needs some time off to remove his foot from his mouth | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
and LAPD's chokehold from the necks of black people. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
When I started covering the Police Department, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
you could feel the residue of that comment. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
In fact, police officers used to refer to the cars, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
which normally people would call "black-and-whites", | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
they called them "black-and-normals". | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
And they would call them that in front of a reporter, by the way. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
So it's safe to say that it was a sort of easy, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
call it racial insensitivity, call it racism, within the department. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
I moved to LA in 1988. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
I had a really good friend who lived there, and she said, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
"I have to give you the black man's guide to survival in LA. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
"Whatever you do, don't fuck with LAPD." | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
POLICE RADIO CHATTER | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
In Los Angeles it was a day filled with tension in many communities, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
because of the current wave of gang warfare. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
I feel like a prisoner on the streets. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
This city has vowed to stop gang violence but, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
as police hunt the people responsible, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
they must follow a trail of bodies. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
We're going to do whatever's necessary. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
And I told my people we're going to wage a war. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Operation Hammer, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
that was the belief that we overwhelm the community | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
with warrants where we believe that we had violent criminals, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
we could rid the problem. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
Ladies, down on the ground! | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
Put your hands down, kneel over there! | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
Over the past week or so, Chief Gates, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
how many arrests have you made? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Well, in the last month, we've made about 3,000 arrests. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
Just in the last weekend we made 1,400. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
You just have a culture of officers who felt that | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
the only way the world will survive | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
is if we neutralise these individuals as soon as possible. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
Hands down, man. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
And in the process of doing that, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
they debased and demeaned the community. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
You understand me? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
There was no conversation with the community about | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
how should we deal with this? | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
It was just hammer, hammer, hammer. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
SHOUTING | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
We have a war. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
We are going to be successful. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Whatever it takes, we will do it. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
I'd just put the kids into bed, and the next thing I know, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
they just came in with guns and were saying, "Get down." | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
He grabbed me by the back of my head and he threw me on the floor, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
then he kicked me and he hit me on my back | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
and he said, "Get down, bitch." | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
The kids were just hollering and screaming. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
Next thing I know they were just tearing the place up. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
1988. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
39th and Dalton. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
Not the best police practices. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
Not the best way to manage a, er...a warrant service. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
-TV REPORTER: -Everything was destroyed | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
as police batted and rammed their way from room to room | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
searching for drugs. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:01 | |
Much of what they found were screaming mothers and children. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
This is my bedroom over here. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
But they even broke all the mirrors and stuff out of the bed. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
They went in and literally destroyed the apartment | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
where, supposedly, a lot of drug activity was going on. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
-TV REPORTER: -All this resulted in three quarters of an ounce | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
of rock cocaine seized along with six ounces of pot. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
You wouldn't go to Beverly Hills and do that, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
even if you thought there was a mafia hang-out. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Even if you thought it was legitimate. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
I called my insurance and I told them what happened. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
He said he had never heard of the police doing this. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
When you don't live in the community, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
you don't think of them as human. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
In my wildest dreams, would have never thought the police | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
of the city of Los Angeles would treat someone that way. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
They started kicking me. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
-What did they tell you? -They didn't tell me nothing. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
They just started kicking me and hitting me on my ribs and stuff. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
-ALL: -Chief Gates, we're proud of you. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
We're proud to wear the PD blue. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
You'd go to the power of LAPD back then. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
They pretty much could do what they wanted to do. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
Hi, I'm OJ Simpson and this season on HBO, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
I'm going to be high-stepping right into your living room. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
All right, we'll do it again. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:37 | |
When OJ was at SC, in my generation, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
you didn't have the jerseys you could go buy, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
so I would take my T-shirts and write "Simpson", | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
and I'd put, you know, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
like, you know, his number, 32, and, "OK, I'm OJ." | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
Hi, I'm OJ Simpson and this season on HBO, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
I'm going to be high-stepping right into your living room. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
I just thought, "One day, I want to meet this guy." | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
OK, what's the next one? | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
And it was through Marcus Allen. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Follow me through training camp and I guarantee that I'll... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-Hey, Juice, I did hear my name. -Hey, man, this is my spot, Marcus. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
Well, I've got the ball now. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
I'd been marketing Marcus for a few years. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
And I told him, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
"OJ ever needs a manager, let me know." | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Training camp is a time to show what you can do. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
It's a time to show off your skills. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
You can prove yourself as a man. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
Blah, blah, blah... | 0:34:26 | 0:34:27 | |
I did public appearances, endorsements, TV commercials, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
autograph signings, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:32 | |
basically everything encompassing his image. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
This week in training camp... | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
This week in training camp... | 0:34:39 | 0:34:40 | |
No. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
This week in training camp... No. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
The big thing that has always been in everybody's head is image. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
Image is everything. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
Never do anything that is going to harm his image. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
Thank you, guys. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
I remember he had a little 100-yard dash with Marcus Allen one day. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
And he had bad knees, OJ, from all the running. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
And he beat fucking Marcus. I couldn't believe it. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
It's something inside of him. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
He wanted to win, no matter what it took. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Chopping through that swing. And look out. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
When he first started playing golf, he violated every rule. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -OK, he's gotta work on his balance a little bit. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
I played with OJ and this other friend, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
Little Joe Kolkowitz. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
OJ had the worst form of anybody on this planet | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
when he swung a golf club. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
One day, on the first tee, he hits this big drive | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
and it hooks into the trees, heavy stuff. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
So we go down the fairway, we're waiting and waiting | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
till Joe goes after him. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
All of a sudden, he finds his ball | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
after a place where we probably went over. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
He sees the ball sitting on a tee, and he says to OJ, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
"You can't do this shit, man." | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
I go, "Jeez, come on. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
"Do you know what the odds of the ball | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
"landing on a tee in this area?" | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
He totally was not going to confess to the whole thing. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
He definitely cheated. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
Yes. Yes. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
What he'd do, he had a ball in his pants | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
and he'd drop it out and then, "Hey, you guys, come on over here." | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
You know, "Here's my ball." | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
And he did that to the point where, finally, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
a bunch of guys got together and they hired a caddy. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
We called it The Juice Patrol. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
And so he'd follow OJ around in another cart, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
so he wouldn't cheat. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:46 | |
It was funny. It was, you know, it was like you couldn't get mad. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
It was very hard to get mad at him. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
One of the things you pride yourself in in being a golfer | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
is you don't cheat. | 0:36:58 | 0:36:59 | |
But people made a joke out of it, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
because they so badly wanted him to understand | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
the rules and regulations of this part of society | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
that didn't tolerate that type of behaviour. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
And yet he had that amazing charm | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
that you'd somehow let him get away with certain things. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
Whenever you went somewhere with him, like, doors would just open | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
and, you know, people would pick up checks. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
I'd say to him, "Hey, Juice, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
"how are we going to get in somewhere? | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
"We don't have any tickets." He would go like this... | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
He... That's his ticket. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
I think he became entitled. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
I certainly felt bedazzled by OJ and Nicole and their lifestyle | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
and I was very charmed by him. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
But I always did sense that part of it was not sincere. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
The other side is my better side, I think. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
Turn the other side for me. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
And I did feel that he took advantage of that. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
And if you allowed him to, I think he would, er...use you. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
All right, we're set here. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
My kissable lips, ooh. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
While he was married, his integrity was... | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
I mean, er... | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
..not as I would have it. I will put it that way. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
He was an incorrigible womaniser. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
He just never stopped. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:37 | |
He cornered me a couple times and tried to make, er... | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
sexual, you know, advance and, you know, I kind of pushed him off. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
I think OJ felt entitled to anything OJ wanted. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
And I think that he really needed that adulation from other women. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
She knew he had affairs and it drove her crazy. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Most of their big fights were about his affairs with other women. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
He went out of his way to almost rub it in her face. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
He'd be in Las Vegas at a show and be holding hands with another woman. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
She would be watching TV and, I mean, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
I don't know how she put up with it. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
He was pretty darn brazen. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
I think he even blamed his affair with Tawny Kitaen | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
on the fact that Nicole got fat when she got pregnant | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
and he didn't want to have sex with her. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
Something as superficial and cold as that. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
# On the hammock, taking a little swing. # | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
Look! See the trees? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
I told him, "Man, you're breaking the laws of God, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
"and nobody does it with immunity. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
"You're going to pay for it, man. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
"One day everybody's going to know everything that you've done, man." | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
POLICE SIREN | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
When you hear a call come out | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
and the 911 operator puts out on the call | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
that she can hear the woman being beaten in the background, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
that...that's serious. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
When I got there, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
I saw an electronic buzzer system, so I pushed the button. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
Almost simultaneously, a tall, female blonde | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
came running out of the bushes. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
She's wearing nothing but a bra and sweatpants covered in mud. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
She kept yelling, "He's going to kill me! He's going to kill me!" | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
When that gate opened, she ran up and just put her arms around me | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
and collapsed on me. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
She was so wet and cold | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
that you could feel her shivering to her bone. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
And I said, "Well, who's going to kill you?" | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
She said, "OJ." | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
She says, "You guys have been up here eight times before. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
"All you do is talk to him, you never do anything. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
"He's going to kill me." | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
Her face had already swollen. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
She actually had an imprint on one side of her face and her forehead. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
So I said, "Do you want him arrested for beating you?" | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
She said, "Yes." | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
About that time, OJ Simpson came right up to the fence | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
and he started yelling, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
"I don't want her in my bed any more. I got two other women. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
"I don't want her in my bed any more." | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
He's got a receding hairline, so you can see his forehead | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
and this vein was popping out, pulsating, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
and it was right up his forehead. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
I told him, "I'm placing you under arrest for beating your wife. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
"You're going to have to go get dressed so I can take you to jail." | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
He turned around and went back in the house to get dressed. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
Suddenly, I saw a Bentley pull out of the other driveway. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:40 | |
So I said, "Back up. He's trying to get away in a car." | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
And we backed out of the driveway | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
and I never caught him with that car. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
I never found him. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:50 | |
MARCHING BAND MUSIC | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
-TV COMMENTATOR: -Downtown Los Angeles, a little ocean haze. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
There is no smog today, everybody's taking it easy. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
Here at the 75th Rose Bowl game, score 7-3. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
1989, Trojans were in the Rose Bowl. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
I was privileged enough to have sideline passes | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
and that was actually the first time I'd ever been to a Rose Bowl game | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
on the sidelines cos, when I was a walk-on at USC, I never got to play. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
I was just having the time of my life. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
All of a sudden, one of OJ's really, really good friends | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
came up and tapped me on the shoulder. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
He said, "Hey, man, er, OJ had a problem last night, you know, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
"and, er, he really needs to talk to you." | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
-REFEREE'S WHISTLE BLOWS -It's over. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
When I called, he said, "Hey, man, I had a little riff. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
"The boys had to come out. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
"Right now, I feel like I'm a fugitive." | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
And he explained to me that they had an argument, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
and she got real physical with him | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
and he had to defend himself and grab her and hold her and... | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
The way he told me the story, I'm thinking, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
"Hey, man, no big deal. You know? You didn't hit her. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
"You know, you said she was aggressive, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:07 | |
"and you were trying to stop her from...from beating you up. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
"Erm, no big deal." | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
And when I got to work the next morning, it WAS a big deal. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
I got a call from downstairs, "Someone wants to talk to you." | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
And there's Nicole in the lobby. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
"Hey, Nicole, what's up?" | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
You know, she goes, "Did you hear about what happened?" | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
I said, "Yeah, I did hear what happened." | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
And she told me it wasn't the first time. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
Showed me the pictures from the past beatings | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
and I looked at those pictures | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
and my heart just, like, dropped. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
I was like, "Man, this guy is a typical batterer." | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
The '89 thing, the way I saw him act in Hawaii that Christmas | 0:44:50 | 0:44:55 | |
convinced me that, boy, there was something really, really wrong. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
He freaked out about Nicole sitting their little son | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
next to a homosexual in a restaurant they were at. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
I mean, he just freaked. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
And they fought all the way back. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:15 | |
The next day, I got a call that he freaked out on New Year's Eve | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
and he beat the hell out of her. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:22 | |
Nicole knew that I used to teach domestic violence | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
for the Los Angeles Police Department. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
And she asked me, "OJ's dad is gay. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
"Do you think this is why he beats me?" | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
And I was like, "I... You know, I don't know. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
"But a lot of that stuff has to do with their self-esteem." | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
OJ Simpson, that night, definitely got preferential treatment. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
Had that have been anybody else, you or me, we'd have gone to jail. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:02 | |
I did place him under arrest. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
I tried my best, but couldn't get to him. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
But when you tell someone they're under arrest, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
they are under arrest. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
If he flees, then, he's a fleeing felon. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
But the unique thing about OJ is it was OJ. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
Where can he go? | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
Where can he hide? | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
Where can he run to on the face of this earth? | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
Where can he go? | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
POLICE RADIO CHATTER | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
POLICE SIRENS | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
Now, the story that might never have surfaced | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
if someone hadn't picked up his home video camera. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
I can remember that moment like it was yesterday. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
I was laying in my bed, and I called out to my wife. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
I said, "You got to come see... You can't believe this." | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
How will the police justify this one? | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
How will they get out of this one? | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
-TV REPORTER: -Police say the man, 25-year-old Rodney King, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
was involved in a high-speed chase, wanted as a parole violator. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:55 | |
The Police Department says there will be no comment | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
until its investigation is complete. | 0:47:57 | 0:47:59 | |
As yet, no charges have been filed. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
This is what happens | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
when you take away a tool that would have ended this in ten seconds. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
Chokehold. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
Look how this thing looks. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
You can't justify that. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
I was the captain at Watts at the time. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Atten-hut! | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
The next day, we had a training day. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
I remember standing in front of all of the troops and I told them, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:37 | |
"The LAPD will never be the same again." | 0:48:37 | 0:48:42 | |
Oh, it was devastating, because there was going to be a belief | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
that if these guys do it, everybody else does it, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
those guys driving down the street in black-and-white do that, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
and that's just not the case. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
But that visual image, folks remember that | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
and they will take it to their grave. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
That home video showing a black motorist being beaten by a white | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
Los Angeles policeman has triggered investigations now by the FBI, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
the District Attorney there, and the Police Department itself. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
The media didn't give LAPD a break on this one. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
They showed that tape over and over and over. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
I mean, it wasn't just in Los Angeles, it was all over the world. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
Dimanche soir en Californie aux Etats-Unis... | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
I was embarrassed for Los Angeles. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
The real significance wasn't what you saw on the tape. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
That tape became exhibit one for every mishandled abuse | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
and excessive force incident that anyone had ever experienced. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:44 | |
This is an aberration. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
This is something that should never have happened. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
We had in place all of the procedures | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
that would keep it from happening. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
Those procedures fell down because of human error | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
and we will deal with that human error. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
I believe things like that do happen from time to time, | 0:49:58 | 0:50:03 | |
but they are anomalies. It's not what happens all day, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
every day, in the thousands of contacts that occur. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
I don't believe it, I'll never believe it. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
Daryl Gates started off saying it was an aberration. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:16 | |
And we said, "Daryl, don't you remember you're the law?!" | 0:50:16 | 0:50:21 | |
I think the thing that's most shocking about the King incident | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
isn't even what happens to King. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
It's the fact that all those officers go back to their police | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
divisions that night, none of them knowing that a videotape exists. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
They all file their reports and not one of them says, in any document, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:42 | |
that they saw anything go wrong. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
That suggests to me | 0:50:45 | 0:50:46 | |
a culture in which this wasn't perceived as something wrong. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
In Los Angeles today, four men were arrested, photographed | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
and fingerprinted. They were policemen, charged with assault | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
with a deadly weapon in the beating of a black motorist. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
Named in the indictment - Officers Laurence Powell, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
Ted Briseno and Timothy Wind | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
and their supervising sergeant, Stacey Koon. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
The FBI will investigate whether the federal civil rights | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
of the victim, Rodney King, have been violated. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
A story's not a story unless there's conflict. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
You really want to say this is a felon speeding on the freeway | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
under the influence of a hallucinogenic and/or alcohol? | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
Or do you want to say | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
he's a motorist and he was stopped by these racist cops? | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
How do you know these cops are racists? They're not racist. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
The furore is only growing with the revelations of police | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
communications over their in-car computer terminals. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
An earlier message from the Powell-Wind unit | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
referred to a previous call as, "Right out of Gorillas In The Mist." | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
Has there been times when we've been brutal, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
used excessive force? Absolutely. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
The racist part is really tough to choke down, for me. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
During my 38 years there... I didn't see it. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
Civil rights organisations say the LAPD has a history of brutality | 0:52:03 | 0:52:08 | |
and misconduct that goes back a quarter of a century, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
including one incident that sparked the Watts riots. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
We want effective law enforcement in the city of Los Angeles. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
You take an oath to protect and serve, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
but when you come to the black community, all you do is abuse! | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
CROWD CHANTS | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
You can only take so many shots publicly before your reputation | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
is so soiled that it can be manipulated over and over again. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:37 | |
That will always be included in the argument to demonstrate | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
how brutal and insensitive and racist the LAPD is. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
It's like, you can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
We're outraged, we're disgusted, and let's close this one with... | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
-CHANTING: -No more, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more! | 0:52:54 | 0:53:00 | |
In comes Latasha Harlins. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
Coming to the counter with what she was going to buy in one hand, | 0:53:26 | 0:53:32 | |
money in the other. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
Altercation. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
Walks away. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:45 | |
Is shot in the back of the head. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
Latasha Harlins really hit home, cos my daughter was the same age | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
as Latasha Harlins. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:58 | |
Rodney King didn't touch me as much as Latasha Harlins, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
because this girl was killed. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
She was a little teenage girl | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
buying some orange juice. Mm-mm. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
That... That could have been my child. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
-TV REPORTER: -Up until Saturday morning, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:20 | |
Soon Ja Du was a Korean grocer in Los Angeles. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
Now she's an alleged criminal facing a first-degree murder charge. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:28 | |
Well, at this time she's looking at a maximum of 30 years to life. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
According to witnesses and security camera videotape, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Harlins never tried to steal the juice. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
Instead, investigators say Du angrily confronted the girl | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
and then shot her with a .38 calibre handgun. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
I hope and I know that justice will serve itself | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
and she will get what she deserve. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
Soon Ja Du had no respect for that young woman. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
The way they beat Rodney King, OK, her shooting Latasha Harlins, | 0:54:56 | 0:55:02 | |
it's the same PEOPLE, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
OK, that are being victimised. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
The recommendation of the people was maximum state prison. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
I think that the death of Latasha deserved that. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
The court decided otherwise. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
Mrs Du is placed on formal probation for five years | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
on the following terms and conditions - | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Mrs Du is to perform 400 hours of community service... | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
Get the cameras off! | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
No camera! Get the camera out of my face! | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
The judge called for peace... | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
How can you have peace when this is going on?! | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
What?! | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
This woman killed a child, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
she killed a child, and not getting any jail time? | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
I-I-I... | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
I haven't gotten over that, really. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
Wake up, Los Angeles! Wake up! | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
Let not her blood be in vain! | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
When Latasha was killed, our family was killed. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
-CROWD: -Yeah! | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
Racism is not the Korean killing her, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
racism is the court system that allows her to kill her! | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
SHOUTING | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
-REPORTER: -Chanting, "Karlin must go," | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
angry protestors stormed through security checkpoints | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
at the courthouse in Compton. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
They are still outraged over Judge Joyce Karlin's decision | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
not to send Latasha Harlins' killer to jail. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
They are willing to go to jail to get their point across. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
In a community, you go to jail for selling crack for 20 years, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
20 or 30 years. How are you going to kill somebody and get probation? | 0:56:33 | 0:56:38 | |
What kind of sense does that make? | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
What kind of justice is that? | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
39th and Dalton. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
Then Rodney King. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
Then Latasha Harlins. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
Three defining issues, in different ways. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
But the tension in the environment | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
and the disrespect shown to black life | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
was the theme. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:08 | |
..with the personalities and cover stories making news | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
in the world of sport. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
Now, here's your host - Roy Firestone. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
When you live your life so publicly and really almost with such ease, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:34 | |
it's hard to believe that there could ever be any rocky time. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
The reason I'm bringing that to light now | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
is not to dredge it up again, but more or less talk about | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
how things can get distorted to such a point that you are portrayed | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
as the bad guy. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
New Year's Eve. Had a little bit too much to drink. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
You know, actually, my wife and I have been together for 12 years | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
and when I look at it, it really wasn't that big of a fight, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
it's just that because of it being New Year's Eve, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
cos it's three o'clock in the morning, just finished a big party, | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
it got a little...got a little loud. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
Here's my point. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:10 | |
The point I'm making, Juice, is that it got to such a point that | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
you were portrayed in the press for a while there like a wife-beater. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
Well, yeah, and that bothered me. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
Obviously, it bothered my whole family. I mean, you know, the day | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
after this was over, we looked at each other - we had a fight, | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
we were both guilty, no-one was hurt, it was no big deal | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
and we got on with our life. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:29 | |
I had always suspected that they had violent fights. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:38 | |
The day of my wedding, I found out that Nicole and OJ | 0:58:39 | 0:58:43 | |
were not going to be attending. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
And he said it was because Nicole was having very bad cramps | 0:58:46 | 0:58:51 | |
from her period. | 0:58:51 | 0:58:52 | |
I thought it was a lie. | 0:58:53 | 0:58:55 | |
It was always Nicole's fault. | 0:58:57 | 0:58:59 | |
I mean, even the '89 thing when I cornered him. | 0:58:59 | 0:59:02 | |
He was sitting in a golf cart. I listened for nine holes - | 0:59:02 | 0:59:04 | |
everything that she did wrong to create what had happened. | 0:59:04 | 0:59:07 | |
"You think that she's bruised up? You should have seen my face." | 0:59:07 | 0:59:11 | |
You know, the whole pity thing that he always went through. | 0:59:11 | 0:59:14 | |
I think anybody that knew them... it was over. | 0:59:14 | 0:59:18 | |
Then it was a matter of when would Nicole have the fortitude | 0:59:18 | 0:59:22 | |
just to completely walk away? | 0:59:22 | 0:59:25 | |
She said, "Ron, if it wasn't for the kids, I'd be out of here." | 0:59:29 | 0:59:33 | |
And then I get a call from OJ. He says, | 0:59:34 | 0:59:37 | |
"You got to help me here, you got to help save this marriage, | 0:59:37 | 0:59:41 | |
"you got to talk to Nicole, tell her I'll never do it again." | 0:59:41 | 0:59:44 | |
I saw her start to soften. | 0:59:45 | 0:59:47 | |
Because, by this time, OJ is just doing everything with the kids | 0:59:47 | 0:59:51 | |
and they're just having a great time, he's taking them here, | 0:59:51 | 0:59:54 | |
he's taking them there, she's looking at me, going, | 0:59:54 | 0:59:56 | |
"Hey, Ron, he's really changing. | 0:59:56 | 0:59:59 | |
"He's really changing." | 0:59:59 | 1:00:01 | |
When it turned toward the domestic violence, | 1:00:04 | 1:00:08 | |
that was one that nobody wanted to hear. | 1:00:08 | 1:00:11 | |
The police didn't want to hear it, | 1:00:11 | 1:00:13 | |
most certainly Hertz didn't want to hear it, | 1:00:13 | 1:00:15 | |
NBC didn't want to hear it - nobody wanted to deal with that. | 1:00:15 | 1:00:19 | |
Back to you, Bob. | 1:00:19 | 1:00:21 | |
When we heard that, I thought that was it. It's over. | 1:00:24 | 1:00:28 | |
You know who called me to tell me that it was a false arrest? | 1:00:29 | 1:00:33 | |
Nicole. | 1:00:33 | 1:00:35 | |
Nicole called me and said, | 1:00:36 | 1:00:39 | |
"Frank, it didn't happen that way." | 1:00:39 | 1:00:41 | |
They'd had a terrible argument, | 1:00:42 | 1:00:44 | |
but he wasn't abusive, they just overreacted. | 1:00:44 | 1:00:48 | |
I certainly understand how she got involved with him | 1:00:51 | 1:00:54 | |
and I can understand how hard it would be to leave that. | 1:00:54 | 1:00:57 | |
There was a lot to leave. | 1:00:58 | 1:01:00 | |
Especially if it was to go back to your parents' house in Laguna Beach | 1:01:00 | 1:01:05 | |
and start over. | 1:01:05 | 1:01:07 | |
OJ was the income producer for the family. | 1:01:08 | 1:01:14 | |
For not only just Nicole and OJ, | 1:01:14 | 1:01:18 | |
but for Nicole's father, | 1:01:18 | 1:01:21 | |
mother, sisters. | 1:01:21 | 1:01:23 | |
He was the money man. | 1:01:23 | 1:01:26 | |
Nicole told me that she felt her family would side with OJ. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:32 | |
And that disturbed her a great deal. | 1:01:32 | 1:01:36 | |
Nicole was like a trophy to him, | 1:01:39 | 1:01:41 | |
you know, something that he possessed, | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
that he wanted control of, you know, | 1:01:44 | 1:01:46 | |
and, "You better do what I say, | 1:01:46 | 1:01:47 | |
"you better go along with this programme." | 1:01:47 | 1:01:50 | |
I totally believe he was concerned about his image. | 1:01:50 | 1:01:53 | |
What kind of public reaction did you get | 1:01:53 | 1:01:55 | |
and what kind of corporate reaction did you get, Juice? | 1:01:55 | 1:01:57 | |
Surprisingly...so supportive, it was unbelievable, you know? | 1:01:57 | 1:02:01 | |
So supportive, you know? | 1:02:01 | 1:02:03 | |
Most of the people I work with know us real well, | 1:02:03 | 1:02:06 | |
so they can see first-hand that our relationship was as strong | 1:02:06 | 1:02:10 | |
not only as it's ever been, but as strong as anybody's I know. | 1:02:10 | 1:02:14 | |
-So nobody dropped you from any contract? -No. | 1:02:14 | 1:02:17 | |
Another thing people don't realise about OJ is, | 1:02:17 | 1:02:19 | |
he is extremely well involved in the business community. | 1:02:19 | 1:02:22 | |
He doesn't want to do this, cos it's embarrassing to him, | 1:02:22 | 1:02:25 | |
but he's one of the owners of HoneyBaked Ham, Ramada Inn, | 1:02:25 | 1:02:29 | |
three Ramada Inns, | 1:02:29 | 1:02:30 | |
very involved, of course, with Hertz, | 1:02:30 | 1:02:32 | |
and when something like this happens, it takes a toll, it takes | 1:02:32 | 1:02:35 | |
a bite out of it, but you bounce back from something like this... | 1:02:35 | 1:02:39 | |
Once they really, really got back together, you know, | 1:02:39 | 1:02:43 | |
"We're still friends, I still love the guy and everything," | 1:02:43 | 1:02:46 | |
but, you know, he kind of had that attitude, | 1:02:46 | 1:02:50 | |
"I'm back. I knew I'd be back." | 1:02:50 | 1:02:52 | |
You know. "Hey, don't worry about it, everything's fine." | 1:02:52 | 1:02:57 | |
-REPORTER: -This is where OJ Simpson performed community service | 1:02:59 | 1:03:02 | |
as part of his sentence for beating his wife, Nicole. | 1:03:02 | 1:03:05 | |
For part of his punishment, Simpson went golfing. | 1:03:05 | 1:03:09 | |
He spent his 120 hours of community service organising | 1:03:09 | 1:03:12 | |
a celebrity tournament. | 1:03:12 | 1:03:14 | |
Prosecutors in the case say they wanted him to go to jail. | 1:03:14 | 1:03:18 | |
Can you imagine if every time he did something violent like that | 1:03:23 | 1:03:27 | |
that a report would have been made? | 1:03:27 | 1:03:30 | |
When I got to the station, I checked the computer, | 1:03:30 | 1:03:33 | |
there would have been eight previous domestic incident reports on file. | 1:03:33 | 1:03:39 | |
Then I would have put that in my report | 1:03:39 | 1:03:42 | |
and sent it on to the prosecutor. | 1:03:42 | 1:03:45 | |
That, most likely, would have been filed as a felony. | 1:03:45 | 1:03:49 | |
Because it would have shown that a slap on the hand | 1:03:49 | 1:03:54 | |
is not going to cure this from happening again. | 1:03:54 | 1:03:57 | |
And that's why I hung onto the report. | 1:03:57 | 1:04:01 | |
I don't have a garage full of reports. I have one report. | 1:04:01 | 1:04:06 | |
One. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:07 | |
It was OJ Simpson's report. | 1:04:07 | 1:04:11 | |
Because I thought that the case might be mishandled | 1:04:11 | 1:04:14 | |
and I needed proof that it actually happened. | 1:04:14 | 1:04:18 | |
And I thought he was going to kill her. | 1:04:20 | 1:04:22 | |
A controversial case involving four Los Angeles police officers | 1:04:28 | 1:04:31 | |
goes to court today. | 1:04:31 | 1:04:32 | |
The officers face charges | 1:04:32 | 1:04:33 | |
stemming from the videotaped beating of a motorist. | 1:04:33 | 1:04:36 | |
The case has already raised accusations | 1:04:36 | 1:04:38 | |
of officially-sanctioned racism and brutality. | 1:04:38 | 1:04:41 | |
At issue is the use of force. | 1:04:41 | 1:04:44 | |
The question is whether their force was justified by King's behaviour | 1:04:44 | 1:04:47 | |
before the camera rolled. | 1:04:47 | 1:04:49 | |
I don't think that should have been prosecuted. | 1:04:51 | 1:04:53 | |
Those officers had about two seconds to make up their mind to do | 1:04:53 | 1:04:57 | |
something, and they did what they thought was right at the time. | 1:04:57 | 1:05:00 | |
When is too much? When is not enough? | 1:05:00 | 1:05:03 | |
Shouldn't have been going to trial. Definitely not. | 1:05:03 | 1:05:06 | |
On film, what you see was illegal. | 1:05:07 | 1:05:11 | |
There had to be a prosecution. | 1:05:11 | 1:05:13 | |
And if there isn't a legitimate reason for this, | 1:05:13 | 1:05:18 | |
there's jail time involved with this one. | 1:05:18 | 1:05:20 | |
I was fairly new to LA, | 1:05:22 | 1:05:24 | |
so I'm thinking, "We got them. We got them cold. | 1:05:24 | 1:05:28 | |
"This time, we'll get justice." | 1:05:28 | 1:05:30 | |
And there were people who had lived in those communities a long time | 1:05:30 | 1:05:34 | |
and they were saying, "Well, you know, maybe. I hope so. | 1:05:34 | 1:05:38 | |
"But it's not a done deal." | 1:05:38 | 1:05:41 | |
In a brand-new courthouse in a distant LA suburb | 1:05:41 | 1:05:44 | |
called Simi Valley, | 1:05:44 | 1:05:46 | |
the city's drama is putting a little town on the map. | 1:05:46 | 1:05:49 | |
The defence had the trial move from Los Angeles County | 1:05:49 | 1:05:52 | |
to this bedroom suburb. | 1:05:52 | 1:05:54 | |
This area is notably more white and conservative than LA. | 1:05:54 | 1:05:58 | |
It was a horrible decision. It was the worst possible decision. | 1:05:59 | 1:06:04 | |
A lot of LAPD officers live in Simi Valley. | 1:06:04 | 1:06:07 | |
The idea is you get a representative cross-section of the community, | 1:06:09 | 1:06:12 | |
that's what the Sixth Amendment talks about | 1:06:12 | 1:06:14 | |
and that people come in with different life experiences, | 1:06:14 | 1:06:17 | |
because you really do need people to come from different walks of life | 1:06:17 | 1:06:21 | |
so that you get a complete understanding of the testimony. | 1:06:21 | 1:06:25 | |
Completely in fear for my life, scared to death that | 1:06:25 | 1:06:27 | |
if this guy got back up, he was going to take my gun away from me. | 1:06:27 | 1:06:31 | |
Cases involving charges against police officers are rarely | 1:06:32 | 1:06:35 | |
slam-dunks, even when they're on videotape. | 1:06:35 | 1:06:38 | |
Did you believe that the actions of your officers, up to this point, | 1:06:38 | 1:06:42 | |
were having any affect on Mr King? | 1:06:42 | 1:06:44 | |
None at all. | 1:06:44 | 1:06:45 | |
This was a managed and controlled use of force. | 1:06:45 | 1:06:47 | |
It followed the policies and procedures | 1:06:47 | 1:06:49 | |
of the Los Angeles Police Department and the training. | 1:06:49 | 1:06:52 | |
Now, as the defence presents its case, | 1:06:52 | 1:06:54 | |
civil rights lawyers like Johnnie Cochran worry that | 1:06:54 | 1:06:57 | |
convictions are far from certain | 1:06:57 | 1:07:00 | |
because the prosecutors seem to lack experience dealing with cops. | 1:07:00 | 1:07:03 | |
Somebody with some experience has to stand up and say, | 1:07:03 | 1:07:06 | |
"Look, you can't get away with this. | 1:07:06 | 1:07:08 | |
"This isn't right and we're not going to let it happen." | 1:07:08 | 1:07:10 | |
The prosecution's strategy seems to be to let the violence | 1:07:10 | 1:07:13 | |
of the videotape speak for itself. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:15 | |
But nobody is certain any more what that tape is saying to the jury. | 1:07:15 | 1:07:20 | |
I had been telling my people at Time magazine, | 1:07:21 | 1:07:25 | |
"There's something going on. | 1:07:25 | 1:07:27 | |
"We need to pay attention. | 1:07:27 | 1:07:28 | |
"There's a story here beyond this trial." | 1:07:30 | 1:07:33 | |
I just sensed there was this unrest. | 1:07:35 | 1:07:38 | |
The day started like any other day, | 1:07:55 | 1:07:57 | |
but it really wasn't. We were waiting for the verdict to be | 1:07:57 | 1:08:00 | |
handed down in the trial of the four white police officers | 1:08:00 | 1:08:03 | |
that were charged with beating Rodney King. | 1:08:03 | 1:08:06 | |
How are you feeling? | 1:08:06 | 1:08:08 | |
No comment. | 1:08:08 | 1:08:10 | |
I got up that morning, I said, | 1:08:10 | 1:08:12 | |
"I got to go up there and see what's going on." | 1:08:12 | 1:08:14 | |
So I got on the freeway and start looking for Simi Valley. | 1:08:14 | 1:08:17 | |
It's an all-white town. I only saw white people out there that day. | 1:08:19 | 1:08:24 | |
And they wasn't that kind to me when I was asking for directions. | 1:08:25 | 1:08:30 | |
I wanted to be there to witness it. | 1:08:33 | 1:08:35 | |
And I guess I thought that my being there was going to change something. | 1:08:35 | 1:08:40 | |
We, the jury, in the above entitled action, | 1:08:40 | 1:08:44 | |
find the defendant, Laurence M Powell, not guilty... | 1:08:44 | 1:08:48 | |
COMMOTION | 1:08:48 | 1:08:50 | |
BLEEP! | 1:08:50 | 1:08:52 | |
Man, you got to be kidding! | 1:08:52 | 1:08:54 | |
We, the jury, in the above entitled action, find the defendant, | 1:08:54 | 1:08:58 | |
Theodore J Briseno, not guilty of the crime of assault | 1:08:58 | 1:09:02 | |
by force likely to produce great bodily injury with a deadly weapon. | 1:09:02 | 1:09:06 | |
This 29th day of April, 1992, signed by the foreman. | 1:09:06 | 1:09:11 | |
We, the jury, in the above entitled action, | 1:09:12 | 1:09:16 | |
find the defendant, Timothy E Wind, | 1:09:16 | 1:09:19 | |
not guilty of the crime of assault | 1:09:19 | 1:09:21 | |
by force likely to produce great bodily injury | 1:09:21 | 1:09:24 | |
with a deadly weapon... | 1:09:24 | 1:09:26 | |
I was sitting in the bureau the day of the verdict | 1:09:26 | 1:09:28 | |
with all of my white colleagues and friends. | 1:09:28 | 1:09:31 | |
And every time they said, "Not guilty"... | 1:09:31 | 1:09:35 | |
..Stacey C Koon, not guilty... | 1:09:35 | 1:09:37 | |
..what I heard was, "Fuck niggers." | 1:09:37 | 1:09:40 | |
"Not guilty." "Fuck niggers." | 1:09:40 | 1:09:41 | |
-HORNS HONK CROWD: -There's no peace! | 1:09:41 | 1:09:44 | |
No justice! | 1:09:44 | 1:09:46 | |
I was at Parker Center when the acquittals were announced. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:49 | |
And I recall some high-fives and some fist-pumping in the air. | 1:09:49 | 1:09:53 | |
I mean, there were clearly people who felt that the public | 1:09:53 | 1:09:55 | |
misunderstood them, | 1:09:55 | 1:09:56 | |
that the media misunderstood them and that the jury got it right. | 1:09:56 | 1:10:01 | |
Your reaction to what has happened? | 1:10:01 | 1:10:03 | |
Very happy. | 1:10:03 | 1:10:05 | |
COMMOTION | 1:10:05 | 1:10:07 | |
CROWD SHOUTING | 1:10:07 | 1:10:11 | |
-LAPD are out there protecting us... -No... | 1:10:11 | 1:10:15 | |
THEY ARGUE | 1:10:15 | 1:10:16 | |
I wanted to believe that the system would work for black people | 1:10:16 | 1:10:20 | |
in general, even though I knew often it doesn't. | 1:10:20 | 1:10:23 | |
But this time, it should work, and it didn't. | 1:10:23 | 1:10:26 | |
And all I felt, like, I just wanted to smack somebody white. | 1:10:26 | 1:10:29 | |
COMMOTION | 1:10:29 | 1:10:32 | |
Your skin colour determines | 1:10:32 | 1:10:33 | |
what degree of justice you have these days. | 1:10:33 | 1:10:35 | |
I don't think the community's going to take this lying down. | 1:10:37 | 1:10:41 | |
I don't think this is going to be good. | 1:10:41 | 1:10:44 | |
No justice in America, not for the blacks! | 1:10:44 | 1:10:47 | |
The justice is for the other man, not for the brother, man! | 1:10:47 | 1:10:50 | |
Pastor, your reaction after that first verdict was read? | 1:10:52 | 1:10:56 | |
Our reaction was almost universal. | 1:10:56 | 1:10:59 | |
Utter...pain. | 1:10:59 | 1:11:02 | |
-CROWD CHANTS: -Justice! Justice! Justice! | 1:11:02 | 1:11:05 | |
Rodney King did not have a choirboy's record, | 1:11:05 | 1:11:09 | |
but Rodney King had the flesh and blood of decency | 1:11:09 | 1:11:12 | |
and humanity in his heart. | 1:11:12 | 1:11:14 | |
What they were beating is every black person in America. | 1:11:14 | 1:11:19 | |
Don't lay down for this shit! | 1:11:19 | 1:11:21 | |
We had an understanding that the night of the verdict, | 1:11:21 | 1:11:25 | |
we would assemble at First AME Church. | 1:11:25 | 1:11:28 | |
We'd been meeting with the Mayor, to get ready. | 1:11:29 | 1:11:32 | |
This is some fucked up shit that happened, man. This is history. | 1:11:32 | 1:11:36 | |
We go to Westwood. Brentwood. Whitewood. | 1:11:36 | 1:11:38 | |
We were going to send out groups of young men to walk the streets | 1:11:38 | 1:11:44 | |
and keep everything...in order. | 1:11:44 | 1:11:47 | |
SIREN WAILS | 1:11:47 | 1:11:50 | |
I had spent weeks talking to black clergy, gang members, | 1:11:53 | 1:11:58 | |
and they were very up front about what they believed would happen. | 1:11:58 | 1:12:02 | |
"Yeah, there's going to be violence." | 1:12:02 | 1:12:05 | |
So we had everything prepared, we had the 'copter fully fuelled. | 1:12:06 | 1:12:11 | |
It seemed like the only people that didn't know there would be a riot | 1:12:11 | 1:12:14 | |
was the news media and the LAPD. | 1:12:14 | 1:12:16 | |
You're looking at a live picture here at Normandie and Florence. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:22 | |
There's been a mini riot at this location. | 1:12:22 | 1:12:25 | |
There's now been a tactical alert. | 1:12:25 | 1:12:27 | |
Officers have been ordered to stay out of this general area. | 1:12:27 | 1:12:32 | |
We're going to try to get you more information on that. | 1:12:32 | 1:12:35 | |
Even before the verdict, | 1:12:36 | 1:12:38 | |
Los Angeles Police Chief Daryl Gates was criticised for preparing | 1:12:38 | 1:12:41 | |
for an arrest in the event four of his officers were acquitted. | 1:12:41 | 1:12:44 | |
But when the rioting began, where were the police and firefighters? | 1:12:44 | 1:12:49 | |
SHOUTING | 1:12:49 | 1:12:51 | |
My most striking memory is members of the police commission desperately | 1:12:55 | 1:12:58 | |
trying to find Gates, which is just shocking, if you think about it - | 1:12:58 | 1:13:01 | |
the verdicts in the Rodney King case were coming down | 1:13:01 | 1:13:04 | |
and the Chief was not at Parker Center. | 1:13:04 | 1:13:05 | |
Gates had driven to this house in ritzy Brentwood | 1:13:05 | 1:13:08 | |
to campaign against a police reform initiative. | 1:13:08 | 1:13:11 | |
Fighting police reform. | 1:13:11 | 1:13:13 | |
That's what he was doing. | 1:13:13 | 1:13:15 | |
He abandoned his post | 1:13:15 | 1:13:18 | |
and left his troops in a shameful state. | 1:13:18 | 1:13:23 | |
SHOUTING | 1:13:23 | 1:13:26 | |
The LAPD response was tepid. | 1:13:28 | 1:13:30 | |
All of the media gets on the Police Department, | 1:13:32 | 1:13:35 | |
the people are screaming, "We have an occupying force." | 1:13:35 | 1:13:38 | |
"Well, gee, we don't want to look like an occupying force, | 1:13:38 | 1:13:41 | |
"so maybe we'll just sit here till it blows over." | 1:13:41 | 1:13:43 | |
That type of crap goes on. | 1:13:43 | 1:13:44 | |
And we were furious. | 1:13:46 | 1:13:47 | |
THEY SHOUT | 1:13:55 | 1:13:57 | |
Chaos at this particular location... | 1:14:01 | 1:14:03 | |
To see the very start of the violence was very troubling. | 1:14:04 | 1:14:08 | |
What made it really troubling was there was no police presence. | 1:14:08 | 1:14:12 | |
There's a van coming under attack. They're pulling the driver out | 1:14:12 | 1:14:15 | |
of the van and they're kicking the driver and beating the driver. | 1:14:15 | 1:14:18 | |
We captured what essentially became the bookend | 1:14:18 | 1:14:22 | |
to the Rodney King beating. | 1:14:22 | 1:14:24 | |
There's another driver badly beaten... | 1:14:24 | 1:14:26 | |
In the case of Reginald Denny, we had black gang members | 1:14:26 | 1:14:30 | |
beating a white man. | 1:14:30 | 1:14:32 | |
Oh, look at that. | 1:14:32 | 1:14:33 | |
Terrible! And there's no police presence down here. | 1:14:33 | 1:14:36 | |
They will not enter the area. | 1:14:36 | 1:14:38 | |
That was the most disgusting thing I've seen in my entire career. | 1:14:39 | 1:14:43 | |
Two blocks away, we had a platoon of Metro Division. | 1:14:43 | 1:14:46 | |
Could have cleared that intersection in a minute. | 1:14:46 | 1:14:48 | |
But the commander there didn't want to release them to do it | 1:14:48 | 1:14:51 | |
because of imagery, we're on live TV. | 1:14:51 | 1:14:53 | |
We're seeing a dark day here in Los Angeles. | 1:14:53 | 1:14:55 | |
The LAPD is nowhere to be found. | 1:14:55 | 1:14:58 | |
So we're sitting there in our uniforms watching this poor | 1:14:58 | 1:15:00 | |
truck driver get his head beat in. | 1:15:00 | 1:15:02 | |
Nobody's doing a damn thing about it. We're screaming. | 1:15:02 | 1:15:06 | |
Nobody would even move on it. | 1:15:06 | 1:15:07 | |
How are you this evening? | 1:15:15 | 1:15:17 | |
Angry. | 1:15:17 | 1:15:18 | |
They're trying to tell us we didn't see what we saw! | 1:15:21 | 1:15:24 | |
CHEERING | 1:15:24 | 1:15:25 | |
We've been the victims of police brutality | 1:15:25 | 1:15:28 | |
in this town for too long... | 1:15:28 | 1:15:30 | |
DROWNED OUT BY CROWD | 1:15:30 | 1:15:33 | |
-..who we are! -DROWNED OUT BY CROWD | 1:15:39 | 1:15:44 | |
DROWNED OUT BY CROWD | 1:15:44 | 1:15:47 | |
Marc Brown, Channel 7, waved at the monitor and said, | 1:15:49 | 1:15:53 | |
"The city's on fire. | 1:15:53 | 1:15:55 | |
"It's on fire." | 1:15:55 | 1:15:58 | |
And I looked at him and said, "My God!" | 1:15:58 | 1:16:00 | |
I had no idea it was right across the street. Literally. | 1:16:00 | 1:16:04 | |
The gas station was on fire. | 1:16:04 | 1:16:07 | |
What I didn't anticipate, personally and professionally, | 1:16:13 | 1:16:17 | |
was the response of the community. | 1:16:17 | 1:16:20 | |
I went on the streets and Western Avenue was in flames. | 1:16:23 | 1:16:27 | |
And this crowd is gathering. | 1:16:28 | 1:16:31 | |
And the police have now come. | 1:16:31 | 1:16:34 | |
And there's one guy and he's screaming his head off, | 1:16:34 | 1:16:37 | |
"Burn, baby, burn. How you like me now, Mr Policeman?!" | 1:16:37 | 1:16:42 | |
And I felt his pain. | 1:16:46 | 1:16:48 | |
I just didn't get it. | 1:16:53 | 1:16:55 | |
I just didn't understand burning down your own community. | 1:16:55 | 1:16:57 | |
I didn't get what it proved. | 1:16:59 | 1:17:01 | |
Here are people who feel like they have no statement, | 1:17:06 | 1:17:09 | |
nobody's paying any attention to them. | 1:17:09 | 1:17:12 | |
This is the only we way we can get any attention. | 1:17:12 | 1:17:15 | |
SHOUTING | 1:17:15 | 1:17:17 | |
As it got darker, | 1:17:20 | 1:17:22 | |
a crowd began to gather out in front of the Police Department. | 1:17:22 | 1:17:25 | |
It got increasingly unruly. | 1:17:27 | 1:17:29 | |
Someone grabbed me and tore my shirt and said something about, you know, | 1:17:29 | 1:17:32 | |
"You fucking newsman, why do you tell lies?" | 1:17:32 | 1:17:35 | |
It is the most physically frightening situation | 1:17:40 | 1:17:43 | |
that I've ever been part of. | 1:17:43 | 1:17:44 | |
Guy pulls up and goes, "Whatever you do, don't go to the command post, | 1:17:55 | 1:17:58 | |
"go to the police station down the street, | 1:17:58 | 1:18:01 | |
"because it's very violent out there." | 1:18:01 | 1:18:04 | |
I looked at him, I thought, "What a coward he is." | 1:18:04 | 1:18:07 | |
Get in the car, make the first turn, | 1:18:07 | 1:18:10 | |
and the car gets lit up by gunfire. | 1:18:10 | 1:18:13 | |
So I go, "OK. Now I know what he's talking about." | 1:18:13 | 1:18:16 | |
So take my .45 out, I put it on my lap, | 1:18:16 | 1:18:19 | |
I took a big gulp of Copenhagen, | 1:18:19 | 1:18:21 | |
stuck it down my mouth, turned off the lights | 1:18:21 | 1:18:23 | |
and drove as fast as I could to the command post. | 1:18:23 | 1:18:26 | |
Hindsight, the overall management could have been done much better. | 1:18:30 | 1:18:35 | |
But once it got away from us... | 1:18:41 | 1:18:44 | |
..we were cooked. | 1:18:46 | 1:18:48 | |
-911 emergency. -Yeah, can you send someone to my house? | 1:19:11 | 1:19:14 | |
-What's the problem? -My ex-husband, or my husband, | 1:19:14 | 1:19:18 | |
just broke into my house and he's ranting and raving. | 1:19:18 | 1:19:20 | |
Now he's just walked out in the front yard. | 1:19:20 | 1:19:23 | |
Has he been drinking or anything? | 1:19:23 | 1:19:25 | |
No, but he's crazy. | 1:19:25 | 1:19:27 | |
-Is he black, white or Hispanic? -Black. | 1:19:27 | 1:19:29 | |
-What's he wearing right now? -Black pants and a golf shirt. | 1:19:29 | 1:19:33 | |
-And you said he hasn't been drinking? -No. -Did he hit you? | 1:19:33 | 1:19:36 | |
-No. -Does he have a restraining order against him? -No. | 1:19:36 | 1:19:40 | |
-What's your name? -Nicole Simpson. | 1:19:40 | 1:19:43 | |
-Your address? -325 Gretna Green Way. | 1:19:43 | 1:19:46 | |
-OK, we'll send police out. -Thank you. -Uh-huh. | 1:19:46 | 1:19:49 | |
When Nicole first decided to leave OJ, | 1:19:52 | 1:19:56 | |
she came to me. | 1:19:56 | 1:19:58 | |
She said, "I want to move out." | 1:19:58 | 1:20:00 | |
And at that time, I was doing real estate. | 1:20:00 | 1:20:03 | |
And then we had to sell OJ on the idea. | 1:20:03 | 1:20:06 | |
He was obsessed with controlling Nicole. | 1:20:06 | 1:20:09 | |
I said, "Look, OJ, we'll get her a lease." | 1:20:09 | 1:20:12 | |
He goes, "Three months." | 1:20:12 | 1:20:14 | |
I said, "We'll get her a year lease. It'll be right nearby. | 1:20:14 | 1:20:19 | |
"You can go to therapy and see if you can work things out. | 1:20:20 | 1:20:23 | |
"But she needs her space." | 1:20:23 | 1:20:26 | |
He really didn't want to do it. | 1:20:26 | 1:20:28 | |
I think, for the first time, she felt free. | 1:20:40 | 1:20:44 | |
It was like she just came into that sense of self, | 1:20:44 | 1:20:47 | |
that she was really ready to do life for her and her kids. | 1:20:47 | 1:20:51 | |
She responded great to being divorced. | 1:20:53 | 1:20:55 | |
She was really enjoying her life, | 1:20:57 | 1:20:59 | |
going out...and not being Mrs Simpson. | 1:20:59 | 1:21:03 | |
Being Nicole Brown. | 1:21:03 | 1:21:05 | |
She wanted to pursue her photography career | 1:21:05 | 1:21:08 | |
and she wanted to have a normal life again. | 1:21:08 | 1:21:11 | |
It was a beautiful day, and we skied down to the bottom of the mountain | 1:21:17 | 1:21:20 | |
and everybody's gathering on the deck, having a great time. | 1:21:20 | 1:21:23 | |
I looked across the deck and I said, "Wow, that is absolutely the most | 1:21:23 | 1:21:27 | |
"stunning woman I've ever seen in my life. | 1:21:27 | 1:21:29 | |
"I have to find a way to introduce myself to her." So I did. | 1:21:29 | 1:21:32 | |
When I got back to LA several months later, we spent more time together. | 1:21:33 | 1:21:37 | |
Her and her friends came by Mezzaluna one night. | 1:21:37 | 1:21:40 | |
We're having a good time, and all of a sudden, | 1:21:40 | 1:21:42 | |
I see the Bentley come screeching up to the front of the door. | 1:21:42 | 1:21:46 | |
Comes in. Walks straight over to our table. Slams his hands down. | 1:21:46 | 1:21:49 | |
Looks me straight in the eye and says, | 1:21:49 | 1:21:52 | |
"I'm OJ Simpson and she's still my wife." | 1:21:52 | 1:21:54 | |
I was sort of love-blind, so I didn't get up, I didn't run, | 1:21:56 | 1:21:59 | |
I didn't back down, I just stood my ground from day one. | 1:21:59 | 1:22:02 | |
And that's when she started to open up to me. | 1:22:02 | 1:22:05 | |
She told me about years of abuse at his hands. | 1:22:07 | 1:22:10 | |
He would beat her and lock her in closets at hotels | 1:22:28 | 1:22:30 | |
because she asked where he was at - | 1:22:30 | 1:22:32 | |
when he was out cheating on her. | 1:22:32 | 1:22:34 | |
She was told how to look, how to wear her hair, told how to dress, | 1:22:42 | 1:22:45 | |
told where to be, what time to be, how to be everything for OJ Simpson. | 1:22:45 | 1:22:50 | |
Kind of a reverse slavery thing, Yeah. Very odd. | 1:22:50 | 1:22:54 | |
"That's my property." He always used to say, "That's my booty." | 1:22:56 | 1:22:59 | |
The two sides of OJ. The OJ that everybody sees on TV... | 1:23:01 | 1:23:04 | |
..When the Cowboys brought in their big back, that they didn't make good | 1:23:04 | 1:23:08 | |
tackles on him, so the coach was on their cases to make better tackles. | 1:23:08 | 1:23:11 | |
As my family throw snowballs at me! | 1:23:11 | 1:23:14 | |
That's not the OJ that there was behind closed doors | 1:23:14 | 1:23:17 | |
and certainly not with her. And she told me that. | 1:23:17 | 1:23:19 | |
"Don't ever be left alone with him. | 1:23:20 | 1:23:22 | |
"You don't know what he's capable of." | 1:23:22 | 1:23:25 | |
He had her followed and he would plant people in our group | 1:23:27 | 1:23:31 | |
that would call him and tell him where we're going every night. | 1:23:31 | 1:23:36 | |
He would either show up or have a spy planted there at the club | 1:23:36 | 1:23:40 | |
so they could watch her every move. | 1:23:40 | 1:23:43 | |
He never relinquished control. He never would really let go. | 1:23:43 | 1:23:47 | |
He would tell me that Nicole tried to get him back, | 1:23:49 | 1:23:51 | |
that she was actually taking golf lessons at Riviera. | 1:23:51 | 1:23:55 | |
And he had a girlfriend, you know, | 1:23:55 | 1:23:58 | |
Paula, and he seemed enthralled with her. | 1:23:58 | 1:24:01 | |
OJ's personality had totally changed | 1:24:04 | 1:24:07 | |
and I didn't think it was just the divorce. | 1:24:07 | 1:24:10 | |
Because his womanising didn't change. | 1:24:10 | 1:24:12 | |
He was truly the most jealous person I ever met in my life. | 1:24:12 | 1:24:16 | |
He was as jealous as he was a good football player. | 1:24:18 | 1:24:20 | |
I saw the anger, I saw the rage in his face on several occasions, | 1:24:23 | 1:24:27 | |
at me, particularly, and at her. | 1:24:27 | 1:24:30 | |
There was an incident where we went over to the Roxbury, | 1:24:33 | 1:24:37 | |
a hot club at the time in LA, and we get in and she's dancing. | 1:24:37 | 1:24:41 | |
Maybe 20, 30 minutes go by and I see her coming back towards me | 1:24:41 | 1:24:46 | |
and she goes, "OJ's here." | 1:24:46 | 1:24:49 | |
And I go, "Great(!) Again." She goes, "Let's just get out of here." | 1:24:49 | 1:24:54 | |
I said, "I couldn't agree more." | 1:24:54 | 1:24:56 | |
So we drive back to her house on Gretna Green. | 1:24:56 | 1:24:59 | |
We go inside. | 1:25:01 | 1:25:03 | |
And we became romantic. | 1:25:03 | 1:25:05 | |
We were off in a private area, in one of the living rooms. | 1:25:06 | 1:25:09 | |
And the next day, he came over and pushed in the back door, | 1:25:13 | 1:25:16 | |
confronted both of us, and he wanted to talk to her alone. | 1:25:16 | 1:25:19 | |
She was trembling, standing next to me, holding my hand, shaking. | 1:25:19 | 1:25:23 | |
And she said, "Keith, I think you need to leave me alone with him | 1:25:23 | 1:25:26 | |
"for a couple of minutes." | 1:25:26 | 1:25:27 | |
I could hear him screaming at her, | 1:25:29 | 1:25:31 | |
using disparaging terms about her, and me. | 1:25:31 | 1:25:35 | |
They walked out and he was OJ again. | 1:25:35 | 1:25:39 | |
Shook my hand. "Sorry, dude, no hard feelings. | 1:25:39 | 1:25:43 | |
"I'm a very proud man." And he walked out the house. | 1:25:43 | 1:25:47 | |
And she turned to me and she was white as a ghost. | 1:25:48 | 1:25:52 | |
She said, "Oh, my God, Keith, he watched us." | 1:25:52 | 1:25:56 | |
And everything changed from that point on. | 1:25:59 | 1:26:03 | |
We realised we weren't safe any more. | 1:26:03 | 1:26:06 | |
We realised that nothing was off-limits. | 1:26:06 | 1:26:10 | |
I think she knew OJ was always a presence. She hated it. | 1:26:12 | 1:26:18 | |
She couldn't even explore being single again and free | 1:26:18 | 1:26:23 | |
and having fun, because everybody was still being manipulated by OJ. | 1:26:23 | 1:26:28 | |
When he found out that she had been with Marcus, that's... | 1:26:32 | 1:26:35 | |
That was a real issue. | 1:26:35 | 1:26:37 | |
It's the time you look the competition right in the face | 1:26:37 | 1:26:39 | |
and say, "Look, I'm better than you." | 1:26:39 | 1:26:41 | |
-I'm better than you. -You may be younger, but you ain't better. | 1:26:41 | 1:26:43 | |
-Who's starting? -And don't be taking my number, either. | 1:26:43 | 1:26:46 | |
-Besides, I'm better looking. -I'm tired of you trying to be like me. | 1:26:46 | 1:26:49 | |
I remember going with OJ to watch Marcus play at USC. | 1:26:49 | 1:26:52 | |
He was kind of like a mentor to Marcus. | 1:26:55 | 1:26:58 | |
They were extremely close. Extremely. | 1:27:01 | 1:27:04 | |
Marcus got married at OJ's house. | 1:27:04 | 1:27:06 | |
I think she always festered a crush for Marcus. | 1:27:08 | 1:27:11 | |
And he was the only person in her life that was as famous | 1:27:11 | 1:27:15 | |
and as strong as OJ. | 1:27:15 | 1:27:17 | |
And so I think she felt, in a way, that she was safe with him. | 1:27:19 | 1:27:22 | |
OJ said, "Marcus, we're SC guys. | 1:27:26 | 1:27:30 | |
"We don't do that to each other, what the hell's wrong with you?" | 1:27:30 | 1:27:33 | |
He was a younger version of OJ. | 1:27:35 | 1:27:38 | |
He was almost like the newer, bigger, better version. | 1:27:38 | 1:27:41 | |
I had no idea whatsoever | 1:27:42 | 1:27:45 | |
that they were carrying on some kind of affair. | 1:27:45 | 1:27:49 | |
I was a bit stunned. | 1:27:49 | 1:27:51 | |
Did you ever have a romantic relationship with Nicole? | 1:27:52 | 1:27:55 | |
No, I did not. | 1:27:55 | 1:27:57 | |
And no kind of sexual or romantic involvement | 1:27:57 | 1:28:00 | |
-did you ever have with her? -None whatsoever. | 1:28:00 | 1:28:02 | |
I really do not want to talk about that at all. | 1:28:04 | 1:28:07 | |
Sometimes I'll try to sing, but I'm not going to do it tonight. | 1:28:09 | 1:28:11 | |
I got this tequila in me. | 1:28:11 | 1:28:13 | |
The girl I came here with said to me, "Is this a blues place?" | 1:28:13 | 1:28:17 | |
I said, "Oh, no, no, no. This is rhythm and blues." | 1:28:17 | 1:28:20 | |
Speaking of that lady I was talking about... | 1:28:20 | 1:28:24 | |
I'm sweaty. Watch her sing. | 1:28:24 | 1:28:27 | |
Oh, my God... | 1:28:27 | 1:28:28 | |
We're live right now all across America. She is my woman. | 1:28:31 | 1:28:35 | |
I'm taking her tequila, that's why I'm not singing tonight. | 1:28:35 | 1:28:39 | |
When they initially got back together, | 1:28:40 | 1:28:43 | |
I was the first person she told about it. | 1:28:43 | 1:28:45 | |
He had told her, "I'm changed, I'm a new man, let me prove this to you." | 1:28:46 | 1:28:50 | |
She said, "We're going to date first and I'm not giving up my house, | 1:28:51 | 1:28:55 | |
"and we're going to see how it goes." | 1:28:55 | 1:28:57 | |
That was how they tried to reconcile. | 1:28:57 | 1:29:01 | |
She said all she really ever wanted was her family. | 1:29:01 | 1:29:04 | |
It's almost like she risked everything | 1:29:07 | 1:29:10 | |
to have that unit back together. | 1:29:10 | 1:29:12 | |
-911 emergency. -Can you get someone over here now to 325 Gretna Green? | 1:29:19 | 1:29:24 | |
-He's back. Please. -OK, what does he look like? -He's OJ Simpson. | 1:29:24 | 1:29:27 | |
I think you know his record. Could you just send somebody over here? | 1:29:27 | 1:29:31 | |
OK, what is he doing there? | 1:29:31 | 1:29:33 | |
-He's just drove up again... -SHE SOBS | 1:29:33 | 1:29:36 | |
Wait a minute, what kind of car...? | 1:29:36 | 1:29:37 | |
We were filming another Naked Gun movie, and it was the first time | 1:29:37 | 1:29:40 | |
I can remember him being just in one of the foulest moods ever. | 1:29:40 | 1:29:44 | |
And he said it was just Nicole bullshit. | 1:29:45 | 1:29:47 | |
First of fall, he broke the back door down to get in. | 1:29:47 | 1:29:49 | |
-OK, wait a minute, what's your name? -Nicole Simpson. | 1:29:49 | 1:29:52 | |
OK, is he the sportscaster or whatever? | 1:29:52 | 1:29:55 | |
-Yeah. -OK... | 1:29:55 | 1:29:57 | |
My ex-girlfriend approached him on the movie set | 1:29:57 | 1:29:59 | |
and said some very disparaging things about Nicole and myself, | 1:29:59 | 1:30:03 | |
so I knew that OJ was going to take it out on Nicole. | 1:30:03 | 1:30:06 | |
-911: -What is he doing? Is he threatening you? | 1:30:06 | 1:30:08 | |
He's fucking going nuts. | 1:30:08 | 1:30:11 | |
You're going to hear him in a minute. He's about to come in again. | 1:30:11 | 1:30:14 | |
-OK, just stay on the line. -I don't want to stay on the line. | 1:30:14 | 1:30:16 | |
-He's going to beat the shit out of me. -Wait, just stay on the line | 1:30:16 | 1:30:19 | |
so we can know what's going on till the police get there, OK? | 1:30:19 | 1:30:23 | |
It wasn't until years later that I actually sat down | 1:30:23 | 1:30:26 | |
and listened to the 911 call. | 1:30:26 | 1:30:28 | |
I knew different voices for Nicole, and she wasn't mad, | 1:30:28 | 1:30:32 | |
she definitely wasn't drunk. | 1:30:32 | 1:30:34 | |
She was terrified. And that was heartbreaking. | 1:30:34 | 1:30:37 | |
That was heartbreaking. | 1:30:37 | 1:30:39 | |
-911: -OK, Nicole? -Uh-huh? | 1:30:39 | 1:30:41 | |
-Does he have any weapons? -I don't know. | 1:30:41 | 1:30:44 | |
-OK. -He went home, now he's back. | 1:30:44 | 1:30:46 | |
The kids are upstairs sleeping and I don't want anything to happen. | 1:30:46 | 1:30:49 | |
OK, just a moment. | 1:30:49 | 1:30:52 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -When you hear OJ's voice, what do you hear? | 1:30:52 | 1:30:55 | |
Rage. | 1:30:56 | 1:30:57 | |
-911: -Is he inside right now? -Yes, yes. -OK, just a moment. | 1:31:07 | 1:31:10 | |
All units, domestic violence at... | 1:31:16 | 1:31:19 | |
SHOUTING OVER PHONE | 1:31:19 | 1:31:21 | |
OPERATOR AND NICOLE TALK AT ONCE | 1:31:21 | 1:31:26 | |
Is he upset with something you did? | 1:31:34 | 1:31:38 | |
A long time ago, it always comes back. | 1:31:38 | 1:31:41 | |
-Has this happened before? -Many times. -OK. | 1:31:43 | 1:31:46 | |
The police should be on the way. Just seems like a long time, | 1:31:50 | 1:31:53 | |
cos it's kind of busy in that division right now. | 1:31:53 | 1:31:56 | |
When she left him for good, she called me and she's like, | 1:32:02 | 1:32:07 | |
"Yep, this is it." | 1:32:07 | 1:32:09 | |
She said, "This is it. I'm done. | 1:32:09 | 1:32:12 | |
"I'm done. I don't even... I have no feeling for him whatsoever any more. | 1:32:12 | 1:32:16 | |
"It's just over." | 1:32:16 | 1:32:18 | |
She was free and she was happy without him | 1:32:18 | 1:32:21 | |
and I think he knew it was really over. | 1:32:21 | 1:32:25 | |
The day she changed, it was like a light switch. | 1:32:28 | 1:32:31 | |
He spiralled from that day on. | 1:32:31 | 1:32:34 | |
Everything was different - who he was, that persona, | 1:32:34 | 1:32:37 | |
everything was gone. | 1:32:37 | 1:32:39 | |
She wasn't chasing him any more. | 1:32:39 | 1:32:41 | |
And it spun him out. | 1:32:41 | 1:32:45 | |
Did we all believe, right toward the very end, when they had split up | 1:32:46 | 1:32:50 | |
after Mother's Day, that Nicole is not seeing Marcus again? | 1:32:50 | 1:32:54 | |
I absolutely believe that she was. | 1:32:54 | 1:32:56 | |
And OJ told Nicole, "You ever see Marcus again, I will kill you." | 1:32:56 | 1:33:01 | |
This was obviously, "I'm going to get back at you, OJ, | 1:33:03 | 1:33:07 | |
"I don't care what it takes, I'm going to humiliate you." | 1:33:07 | 1:33:10 | |
If she did it, it was more for her own personal rebellion. | 1:33:13 | 1:33:18 | |
It was more for her saying to herself, | 1:33:18 | 1:33:22 | |
"I'm going to date who I want, I'm going to go where I want, | 1:33:22 | 1:33:25 | |
"I'm going to be friends with who I want. I'm free. | 1:33:25 | 1:33:29 | |
"You have lost me, OJ. Watch me run." | 1:33:29 | 1:33:33 | |
I think there was something about her | 1:33:35 | 1:33:38 | |
that was almost unattainable to him. | 1:33:38 | 1:33:41 | |
Something that he couldn't quite control. | 1:33:43 | 1:33:46 | |
And I think that that was part of the attraction. | 1:33:51 | 1:33:55 | |
And I think, in the final analysis, that's what got her killed. | 1:33:55 | 1:33:59 |