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Posing as a fisherman in my ultimate country kit, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
I walked through Somerset on this crisp morning | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
looking for my lunch, which I hoped would be pike in a creamy red pepper sauce. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
Sounds delicious, doesn't it? | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
Notice I scan the water like a heron for the signs of a shoal of roach, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:23 | |
and where there's roach, there'll be pike. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
I've got more chance of being struck by lightning than catching pike. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:02 | |
So rather than go hungry, I've enlisted some specialist help. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Here we go. This is the tense bit, isn't it? | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
You can easily drop it, you see. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
When are you going to give him the gum? You have. My goodness, it's big fish, isn't it? Yeah. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
Boy-oh-boy-oh-boy. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
You aren't going to believe this but this is not set up in anyway. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
It's real, we're actually catching fish. It's unbelievable. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
That's his head. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
You don't seem to be applying any... You're letting him tire himself out. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
You're not forcing him to do anything, is that the technique? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
Well... You're letting him go back a bit. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
I'm anxious to land it, it's me first pike this morning. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Ooh... Oh, yes, indeed. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
Try and make a special effort to land him... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
HE MUTTERS | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Just keep him... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Wind up. Wind up. Straight up. Wow. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
Yes, that's 10lbs, 11lbs. It may be more. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Well done, well done! | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
That could be, that could be 12 or 14lbs. Splendid. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Well, this one's going to have quite dangerous teeth. He's very... | 0:02:37 | 0:02:43 | |
How nice. That's splendid. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
This fine specimen is far too big for my lunch. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
I haven't got the heart to kill a fish of that size. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Let's put it back and catch another. This is my biggest pike, 16.5lbs. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
We'll put him back to fight another day. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Mind you, our French neighbours aren't so sentimental. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
They'd have had that beauty skinned and pounded into quenelle | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
before you could say, "Bon appetit!" | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
And even the medieval monks would not have been | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
so compassionate, for on Fridays, they feasted on fish. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
Refectory tables groaned with pewter platters piled high with | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
braised carp, fried perch, steamed tench, stewed eels and baked pike. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:34 | |
You all thought I was a complete and utter poser | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
but I have actually caught one and you can't do any better than that. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
It is quite... Whoops! | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
Let it go a bit, right. Such a little fish. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
How can they say that to me on the first ever pike I have caught? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
Colin is saying it is only a little one. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
It is a Jack, isn't it? Like the first one actually. Yes. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
But they are very lively. Yes, they are. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
I do think he is ready to come in actually. Ah! I have lost him. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:05 | |
Argh! He is gone! Oh, dear! My absolute moment of glory is ruined. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:11 | |
I want to go home! I hate fishing! Oh, I have had enough! Cheerio! | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
Oh, heavens above. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
I will just have to show you a photograph of a pike at this rate, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
which, by the way, is on page 27 of my new cookery book. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
He is definitely taking it though. He has run across to the other side. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
I think we are about ready now. Mind your head. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
There is another one moved over there. There's another one we just disturbed. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Well, well, well. This is called playing the fish, isn't it? | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
You tire it so that you don't bust... It's only a small one. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
Yes, because what would be the biggest one you could expect to get? | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
We have had them 20lb. What is this one going to be, about 4-5lb? | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
This is about 4lb. Maybe four or five. What a handsome-looking thing. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:12 | |
But they are evil, aren't they? They can be, yes! | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Put your hands anywhere near their mouth, yes, they could do a lot... | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Oh, possibly six. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
A little bit bigger than I thought he was actually. Well, well, well. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
Is there a size limit that you can... Yes, there is, yes. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
21 inches long. So that is well over... Nose to the tip of the tail. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
So he is well over... Yes. ..the limit for taking. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
Great! Thanks to Colin and Malcolm's skill, we have got the lunch | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
and the right size too. What a fine morning it has been. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
The excitement and the fresh air have given me quite an appetite. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
I think it is time for a spot of breakfast | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
and a glass of cider or two before I get back to the hot kitchen to cook. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
Are you both married by the way? Yes. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Do you get into trouble with the wives? No, I think we are both fortunate. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Glad to have us out the way sometimes. Yes! | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
Colin and I get out regularly. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
There is this big secret you are keeping from me | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
about how you can spend so much time fishing. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
I take it you are just millionaires. THEY CHUCKLE | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
No. That would be the job of the century that! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
Poor as a church mouse. Yeah, we know... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
We are just enthusiastic about our hobby. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
Other things have got to take a back seat. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
It is not a hobby, it is a passion with you then. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
It is. Very much a passion. It has to be. We cannot resist a nice day. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:46 | |
What is your dream? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
You must have lots of sort of ambition in this | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
for the biggest pike, the biggest tench. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
It is not necessarily the biggest, you are not hunting the biggest, are you? | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
What is it that you dream of doing? It is the company, it is the environment. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
You are with nature, you are competing your wits against nature. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
We have been fortunate today, but days can be when you won't | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
catch fish, they just don't want to feed and they won't feed. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
I think you are being modest. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:15 | |
I think you have then watching the river very carefully, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
watching the migration if that is what roach do. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
You are using years and years of country lore and understanding, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
aren't you? Even that side of it alone... It could still fox you. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
Yes, it could still fox you. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
I think that you, for me, have relived some of my most | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
important and imagined boyhood moments. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
I told you earlier that I spent months and years trying to | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
catch a pike when I was 12, 14, 15 in this area and I never did. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
You have brought back for me all the wonderful memories that are | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
associated with fishing - farmhouse cheddar cheese and cider and stuff. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
For my part at least, I'd like to say to you both, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
thanks very much for a really wonderful day. It has been magical. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
We have enjoyed it. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:03 | |
It seems to be a terrible thing to do to your family, but I always | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
wanted my mother-in-law on one of my programmes | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
and it's taken me 25 years to catch her, actually! | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
When I was a small boy I tried to catch a pike. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
I didn't. It's taken all of this time to catch this fish. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
In the Loire, in France, pike is an esteemed gastronomic delight. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
A beautiful pike - brochet de cannelle, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
or pike steamed with paprika sauce. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
What do we do with it? Practically nothing, although my fine fisherman friends eat it all the time. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
I'm going to show you how to cook this magnificent beast, and the first thing to do is cut him. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:45 | |
It's already been gutted. We're going to take a superb fillet off. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
Run the knife, hopefully, up the bone... I'm sorry. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
I have just done that completely the wrong way round. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
You must always fillet a fish from its head and run with the flow of the fish. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:05 | |
This is actually a live programme. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
We do borrow kitchens, we do come in, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
we don't take things out of the oven and say, "This is already cooked." | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
In the passion of the moment, I made a rick. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
But I'll do it properly from here on in, and before I do that, I'm going to have a little slurp. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
I'm nervous, hot, tired and making mistakes. Please excuse me. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
Anyway, all that said, I've now got the fillet we're looking for, OK? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
A perfect fillet, cut from the flow of the fish. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
The telephone's ringing, but that's because we're in a real restaurant | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
and people are booking tables. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
The other ingredients I'm going to use are red peppers, onions, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:54 | |
garlic, fennel, fresh parsley, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
my veloute - it's a kind of a roux really. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
It's butter and flour thickened with a little water. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
I'm going to use that to thicken my sauce, which is going to be made from my fish stock here, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:11 | |
which is made from the head of the pike poached in water. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
And my red pepper sauce, which is peppers poached in a little fish stock and liquidized. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:21 | |
I did those in advance to make this a sensible lesson. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
I'm going to finish off the sauce with some double cream - you know what that looks like - | 0:10:25 | 0:10:31 | |
and supreme egg yolk at the end. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
OK. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll go over to the stove and start cooking. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:41 | |
I do want you to forgive me for doing the unforgivable and cutting the fish the wrong way round. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:48 | |
So, there we are. I'm back at the piano, which is what we gastronauts call a cooker. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
Sorry for the cock-up earlier, but now to the business of the pike, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
a fish which some people just throw to their cats, or even throw back into the river. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:13 | |
If you'll come back to the stove, I'll show you what we're doing. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
As with all fish, if you're poaching them, the liquid must be still. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
This is cooking, it's not bubbling away. Bubbling destroys the fish. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
It's been on for a little while. Stick your finger in. It's firm. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
We can go over to the sauce now, which is the most important bit. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Our little red pepper sauce. Add in a teaspoonful... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
You've got to come close here | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
because the director always makes us do it again if people aren't seeing what's happening. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
Our veloute is thickening that sauce. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
You'll notice throughout the shows that sometimes we use veloutes | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
and sometimes we use egg yolks to thicken sauces. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
Today, we're going to use the veloute and enrich it with the egg yolk. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:07 | |
The gas is low. No real bubbling must take place otherwise it's going to separate. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
Stir it round. OK, we can let that reduce a little. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Now, if only one of my assistants - they've gone away - can find my... | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
BANGING AND CRASHING | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
That noise was just the cameramen tripping over their equipment. It's a very hot, tight kitchen. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:28 | |
We're going to take out our fillet, slip it into this elegant plate. I always insist on white things. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:34 | |
The fish is the star, the plate is the extra. I'll say that a lot. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
Taste the sauce. Coming quite good. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:45 | |
Actually, it is nice, but it needs to be reduced a little more. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
A little grind of pepper for seasoning purposes. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
And now I've got to turn it down because we're going to add the egg yolk, not for thickening, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
but for flavouring this particular dish, and that mustn't bubble, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
otherwise you'll get scrambled eggs. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
So, one egg yolk in. Plop! Come on in. Then whisk like mad. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
Don't give it chance to congeal into lumps. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
You don't want scrambled eggs. You want a smooth sauce, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
which, I'm pleased to say, we've achieved. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
We'll, what the French would call "nappe", which is a lovely word, we're gonna coat the fish. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
And you see the importance of the right plate here. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
That beautiful light pink... | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
salmon pink sauce, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
covered with a little bit of parsley. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
And there, my freshwater gastronauts, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
you have what the French call, "brochet a la canotiere," | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
which means, "the pike cooked by the wife of the pike fisherman." | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
Isn't that pretty? And what a wonderful way to celebrate spring. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
What a wonderful way to celebrate fresh-water fish. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
You can do this with perch, trout, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
you can do it with carp, with pike. You can do it with anything. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
There's only one thing to do. In one little mouthful... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
For you fishermen, who might catch a pike and throw it back or feed it | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
to your cat or say it's inedible as it's full of bones, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
you are wrong. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
This fish is almost as fine as a bass. And that is saying something. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
It's a beautiful firm-fleshed fish, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
with this delicate sauce I prepared. I almost caught the fish myself. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
I can tell you, you can have a fine gastronomic delight. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
MUSIC DROWNS SPEECH | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
'OK, we take the point, Floyd can't cast. Most people can't afford to eat salmon let alone fish for it. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:19 | |
'I've got it all here on the River Exe. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
'And Derek Bowdler, unlike my producer, is a courteous man who explains everything with patience.' | 0:15:21 | 0:15:27 | |
Perhaps years trying to catch a salmon and they lose it in a minute. Yesterday, we were pike-fishing, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:34 | |
and we actually caught pike and today we've got salmon. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
As it comes back towards us, wind. Keep bending the rod and wind. This is just so exciting. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:45 | |
Now, so that we don't have any problems with this, I want to get this as quickly as possible. OK. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:52 | |
He wants to run. You keep a good bend in the rod, keep it up, now he's off again. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:58 | |
He's like a train, an express train. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
Look at that! You'll have to move, cameraman. Keep the rod down, that's right. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
Wind. Wind...hello. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Your clutch has slipped a little bit. That's it. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
There we go. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
We're in trouble now. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Could I just take it for a sec? Yeah. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
There we are. I think we'll get him back just to get him under control. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
He's a bugger, isn't he? He's a fighter, oh, he's gone. Damn! | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
We did our best. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Well, I'll be damned. Isn't that a shame? He's broken that. He's broken the lot. Good God. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:42 | |
That was a big fish too. Yes, it was. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
OK, let's have a bash then. Right. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
I know a lot about salmon from an eating point of view but fishing... | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
and catching them is where I'm entirely in your hands. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
I've never put wadders on! We must be careful as we wade. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
Actually we should point out that wading can be dangerous. Yes. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
A quick slip and you've had it, haven't you? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
Is this really... | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Is salmon fishing really for a privileged few or is that a myth these days? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:21 | |
I think that's a myth these days. A few years ago, yes, it was, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
but today, there is salmon fishing available almost right through the southwest waterside. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:32 | |
They've got a stretch of fishing down below. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
That agonises me, the fact that you don't hit the trees on the other side. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:43 | |
The essential part is... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
is to put that mineral right across in front of his nose. Yes. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
That's not going to drive the fish away? No, it doesn't seem to disturb them at all. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:56 | |
I think, if you get into a small pool that... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
you must separate wading and fishing because they're two different things. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
If you disturb the water too much, then you're going to drag the fish. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
That is one thing you've got to be very careful about. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Well, I hope that had a few casts on it. Would you like a go? Well...um... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:21 | |
I'd rather have a go of watching those trees being uplifted | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
but the equipment's a bit expensive to lose! | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
Right. We will try here a little bit. OK. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Eek! Can you feel it getting deeper? Yes, I can. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
I should just keep out slightly | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
because it does shove away quite deep. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Oopsie. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Once I had lost that salmon and whatever | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
he thought Derek didn't tell me, though I heard him mutter something | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
about a turnip top - I imagine some kind of fishing expression - | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
we all knew that we had lost the golden opportunity for the day. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
We didn't get another bite and I, like so many other fishermen before | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
me, had to resort to the fishmonger to complete the day's schedule, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
and a cognac here in Dartmouth, purely for medicinal | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
reasons of course, after being up to my neck in the Exe, calms the nerves that are | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
still tingling from the thrill of that salmon going like a train AWAY. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
They say that salmon is the king of fish, so to cook the king of fish, we ought to ask one of the queens | 0:19:22 | 0:19:28 | |
of British cookery, and I'm sure foodies will need no introduction | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
to Joyce Molyneux here, who is one of the best cooks in the land. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
She's operating in Dartmouth. What are you going to do with the salmon? I thought we'd do it two ways. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:45 | |
A classic way, served simply with Hollandaise, cooked with a little white wine and seasoning, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
which is just a very simple, classic way of cooking it. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
The other alternative is salmon in pastry, which is an old favourite of the Perry-Smith family of cooks, | 0:19:55 | 0:20:02 | |
and I think it's a delightful way as well. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
Incidentally, I'll tell you how to make the sauce because we've got it ready to make life easier. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:12 | |
We'll let you know how that happens. What are you doing now? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
A bit of salt and pepper on these, tossed lightly in butter, pour a little white wine on, cover and cook, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:22 | |
as lightly as possible. Fine, you go ahead with that. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Do you think that salmon of all fish needs to be slightly undercooked? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
There's been a revolution in cooking, which came from France and is now firmly with us here. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:37 | |
And fish needs to be slightly undercooked. Yes. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
It is preferable to be slightly undercooked, it's just nice to eat, you get more of a taste of the fish. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:47 | |
I've got a little melted butter in a copper tray there, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
on a solid hot stove. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
And that's going to cook away for... Just very gently start it off. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
I shall turn them over with a fish knife, pour a little white wine over then put them in a cool oven. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:06 | |
Do you find that here by the sea, you've got access to every kind of fish, do people appreciate fish? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:12 | |
Yes, they do indeed. I think they actually appreciate unusual sorts of fish but we're most happy of course, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:19 | |
to serve the salmon that comes out of the Dart river here. It's lovely. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
You feel that every salmon you serve has just come out of the river. Driven past the front of the shop. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:30 | |
It's gone past us! You may not have seen it, but there it is, it has gone past us. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:37 | |
A little white wine on that. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
And some tinned foil. If you may. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Did you see that all right? That's just a drop of white wine. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
There's a huge myth that you've got to swamp things in white wine. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
You're just using wine there to get the natural juices from the fish to combine with that. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
That juice is lovely to eat with the fish. You could just finish the juices off with cream. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:04 | |
It's nice to have the natural juices because you have the lovely salmon flavour with the Hollandaise sauce. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:11 | |
We'll cover that with tinfoil. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
And we're just going to pop it in the oven here. There's been a radical change towards cooking and eating | 0:22:15 | 0:22:21 | |
throughout the country in the last ten or 15 years. People are more interested but I have a feeling | 0:22:21 | 0:22:28 | |
that they're over-complicating things and they're not following the basic principles. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
They're too eager about having a piece of salmon just because it's salmon, then covering it with cream, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:39 | |
when in fact, they would be better off with a very simple but fresh herring. Yes, indeed. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
There isn't anything nicer than fresh herring, it's so lovely and moist. I think it's absolutely delicious. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
There isn't anything nicer than fresh herring, it's so lovely and moist. I think it's absolutely delicious. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
Perhaps sometimes people feel that the more they add to fish, or the more they do with things, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:59 | |
the better it's going to become, and it isn't always so. It's like... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
You feel they're paying... particularly in a restaurant, that they're paying a lot of money | 0:23:03 | 0:23:10 | |
so they want something that's been very well worked on, whereas, what they should be paying for | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
is the best ingredients cooked simply. And a great deal of love. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
Love's the most marvellous thing. Fantastic, yes. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
I was shocked the other day, I was at a point to point and we were all talking about Range Rovers... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:32 | |
and I was talking to a young lady, the wife of a well-known actor, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
and she said, "The great thing was I went to cordon bleu, it was great," and I expressed my provocative views | 0:23:37 | 0:23:44 | |
about cordon bleu cooks. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
And I put the idea that she could have in fact learnt just as much or more from her mother, and she said, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:53 | |
"Girls of my class don't have mothers who cook, we don't do such things." It's appalling. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:59 | |
It is. I'm sure it couldn't happen in France where it's, as you know, quite different. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:06 | |
In general, people are more interested in food nowadays. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
This is a new thing. Before the war, one didn't talk about food. It was like not talking about sex. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:17 | |
Or death nowadays. Yes. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
These unmentionable subjects, but now everybody enjoys food much more. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
And perhaps it's gone to the other extreme with so many cookery books about. There's too much. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
Too many colour supplements telling how us how we ought to live without going into the nitty-gritty. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:37 | |
Nitty-gritty as you said is the freshness, and the cooking... We are cooking aren't we? We are indeed! | 0:24:37 | 0:24:43 | |
How's that going on? We're going to try and get this out the oven if you don't mind staying with us a bit. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:50 | |
The thing about meeting one of these super cooks like Joyce | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
is that... Not quite ready. Not quite? In again for a second? A couple of minutes. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
Can I show you what it means by "not quite"? That's a little too pink. You want it like that. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:08 | |
When it's all like that, it'll be ready. But a little pink in the centre. A little pink in the centre. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:15 | |
There we are. Another five minutes in the oven. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Joyce, you've done a marvellous job of that. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
You've put Hollandaise over it and a little fennel to give it a hint of aniseed... Yes. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
..which is nice. I'm looking forward to the first salmon of the season. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
Splendid. You eat because I've got to explain to my fans - | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
hello, gastronauts, haven't seen you for a while. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
The Hollandaise sauce is terribly simple, I do hope Joyce won't contradict me. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:45 | |
As long as you've got a food-processor, break in the yolks of three eggs into it, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:51 | |
whisk it up till they're frothy and then pour in a half pound pack of melted unsalted butter, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:58 | |
very slowly whizzing the food-processor the whole time. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
It'll turn into a nice thick yellow custard which you can pour over salmon, hard-boiled eggs, asparagus, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:09 | |
new-boiled potatoes, anything you like. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
It's a versatile sauce, very simple and it's brilliant. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
See you in a minute. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Mm. Mm! | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
I think you know me well enough by now after the last five weeks, for me to let you into a little secret. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:29 | |
I'll quote the Bard who said, "A surfeit of the sweetest things, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
"to the stomach a certain loathing brings." | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Fish, I've had enough. I could murder a steak and kidney pie or even sausage and chips. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
But Joyce, bless her heart, has made a wondrous dish of salmon and raisins and ginger. Oh, well. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:48 | |
Once more unto the breach, dear friends! | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
I'm glad you're enjoying it. Superb. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
How precisely did you make it? Lots of people will want to know. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
Good. The salmon is filleted and skinned and layered with a ginger and currant butter, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
and wrapped in pastry and baked. Can I interrupt? Is that powdered, whole, or crystallised ginger? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:12 | |
Crystallised ginger. Crystallised. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
Crystallised ginger or ginger out of syrup. It's an adaptation of a medieval recipe. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:21 | |
That's the origin of it. Wrapped in pastry and baked, then served in a herb and cream sauce, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:27 | |
which is delicious hot or cold. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
The... Sorry to interrupt, we need to get the cameraman involved. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
Clive, this sauce is too good to miss. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
While he's looking at that, can you explain how the sauce is made? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
A few shallots, sweated down in some butter, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
chopped tarragon, chervil and parsley added, a little flour, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
cream and finished off with mustard and lemon juice. Over a low heat? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
Yes. You've been very good camera, and haven't I been gentle to you? | 0:27:57 | 0:28:03 | |
We'll get on with our eating. I don't know what we're doing next week, something really good, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
probably tinned sardines. See you then. Bye now. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
So, they've gone away. I get so bored with the lights and the heat. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
You can't get on with the whole business, which is eating and drinking and enjoying yourself. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
Subtitles by Rebecca Rahman and Laura Cole, BBC Broadcast - 2003 | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 |