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Good morning!

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The weekend is here and we're live

with 90 minutes of the very finest

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food and plenty of fun.

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I'm Michel Roux, and this

is Saturday Kitchen Live!

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Welcome to the show.

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Cooking with me today

are two fantastic chefs -

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Florence Knight and Andy Oliver.

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Welcome to the show, good morning.

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And Olly Smith is in

charge of the drinks.

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Good morning.

Great to have you

here.

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Florence, welcome back.

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Since you were last on the show

you've left Polpetto,

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had two babies and become

the official Sunday Times chef -

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you've not been too busy, then!

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No!

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Tell us, what are you cooking today?

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A beautiful pan-fried pollock with a

puddle of almond 's puree and some

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poor Tate sea purslane.

A puddle of

almond puree, I love that idea. I

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want to jump in, feet headfirst.

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Andy, great to have you back.

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You've been instrumental

in bringing about a Thai food

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revolution in the UK,

so I'm pleased to see that you're

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making a Thai dish for us today.

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Absolutely. I am cooking a dry pork

curry from the south of Thailand,

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classic Southern Thai flavours like

black pepper, fresh to Muric, dried

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chilli, lemongrass and caviar lime

leaf. It is quite spicy so there is

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cooling vegetables and herbs.

Not

easy, spice with winds?

I think you

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need loads of fruit in the wind, but

I think I have found the perfect

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wine from Alsace. We will be

travelling from France to Australia

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and beyond.

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As always, we've hunted

through the BBC archives to bring

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you some classic moments

from your favourite foodies

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including Rick Stein, Raymond Blanc,

The Hairy Bikers and Nigel Slater.

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Our special guest is a national

treasure, known to millions

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for playing Dorien Green,

the middle-aged, man-eating

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neighbour from hell in the brilliant

Birds of a Feather.

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She recently showed off her high

kicks in Strictly and has just been

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nominated for an Olivier.

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Please welcome the one

and only Lesley Joseph!

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APPLAUSE

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Oh!

You had to say the word middle-aged,

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didn't you?!

Yes.

Thank you for

that. This is my idea of heaven, to

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be cooked for by so many people.

This is my idea of heaven, you don't

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know how excited I have been to have

the one the show. I have been

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looking forward to it all week. And

Olivier, isn't that amazing?

It is

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the first time I have been nominated

for anything on stage, which I have

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done all my life

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done all my life since the age of

21, I had never been nominated. On

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Tuesday I found out I was nominated

for Young Frankenstein for Best

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Supporting Actress In A Musical. So

I am on cloud nine.

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So, Lesley, at the end of the show

I'll be cooking your food

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heaven or food hell.

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What's your idea of food heaven?

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Smoked salmon. I have it every day,

all my life, every day. I love

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vegetables, any vegetables.

Cauliflower, courgettes. I have

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become a bit obsessed with at the

moment, and I think it has healing

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properties, it might not, is ginger.

I love ginger. I have a ginger shot

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every day before the show, it works

for me.

I like ginger, too, on

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anything.

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And your food hell?

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Not a fan of blue cheese.

Stinky

blue cheese?

No, thank you very

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much! Please do not votes for food

hell. And chocolate in something. I

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like chocolate, but I find it too

overbearing at the moment. The

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thought of those two together...

Yes, chocolate.

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So if the viewers give you heaven,

I'll serve you three

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of your favourite things - salmon,

courgette and ginger.

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I'm going to smoke some salmon

for you right here in the studio

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and serve it with some home-made

blinis with a refreshing courgette

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and ginger salad on the side.

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I think you also like those little

pancakes.

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You'll never go back to shop-bought

smoked salmon again!

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Never!

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But if Lesley gets hell,

it's going to be a stinky blue

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cheese and rich chocolate number.

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Yes, I'm afraid I'm going to ruin

two perfectly good pears

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for you by stuffing them with mouldy

blue Stilton and roasting them,

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before then adding insult to injury

by smothering them in a dangerously

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rich and dark chocolate sauce!

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Can I leave now?!

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But you'll have to wait

until the end of the show to find

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out which one the viewers vote for!

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So everyone, just go

to the Saturday Kitchen website

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before 11 this morning

and get voting!

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We also want your questions.

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You can ask our experts anything,

just dial 0330 123 1410.

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Get dialling now!

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As always, you can also comment

on what's cooking on social media.

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Florence, we are cooking.

Let's get

cooking.

We have some beautiful

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ingredients.

Beautiful pollock. Do

you use pollock much?

I love it, I

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think it is a great fish.

It is a

really good sustainable choice,

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lovely alternative to cod. You will

crack on with the...

Chopped

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shallots.

I have toasted almond is,

you can buy them toasted or put them

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in the oven, 160 for about ten or 15

minutes. I will soak them in almond

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milk.

So you soak the toasted

almonds in almond milk, to give more

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almond flavour.

It would be

fantastic if you could take some of

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the sea purslane.

And then you need

to get the fish in the pan. So you

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need to soak the almonds for a fewer

hours?

Just to soften them.

We had

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severe letup in southern. The

pollock will be pan roasted in oil

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and finished with butter. Everything

tastes better with butter.

That is

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true. Season the fish are nicely all

over. It is good to have a dry skin,

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otherwise you cannot get the crisp.

It crisps up with dry skin. Tell us

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about the inspiration behind this

dish and your food philosophy?

It is

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taking away rather than adding, it

is important not to overcomplicate

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people plasma palates too much. If

you have really good ingredients,

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why start adding more and more and

more and more? That is my

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philosophy, I suppose.

There are

very few ingredients.

What is great

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about this dish, it could work in a

restaurant or it could be a

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wonderful alternative to have at

home. You can see how simple it is.

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So grab your shallots. Thank you

very much. We will go in here,

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ideally we will cook these nice and

slowly. A good pinch of salt, and a

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lid on for around ten to 15 minutes

until they are soft. Waste not.

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Waste not, want not. So you laughed

Polpetto a couple of years ago, are

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you missing much?

Really. I had my

team for two years, I was very

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lucky, wonderful and was still in

touch daily on what's upcoming

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hearing what they are doing. I am

like a proud mother finding out what

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is going on. Yeah, no, it is...

Are

you yearning to get back into the

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kitchen?

I am, I am very excited to

hopefully be opening my very own

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restaurant with a cafe, a garden and

even a shop the groceries. It is

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very exciting but very early stages,

so I cannot say too much today.

But

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there is something in the pipeline,

possibly? Good.

Your weekly column,

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if I had to come up with the recipe

my kitchen would look like a

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tornado. Can you talk us through

where you draw your inspiration

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from?

It starts with the season, the

column theme I am working around,

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then I always started the

ingredients, really. My family are

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my guinea pigs.

That is often the

case.

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case.

I test recipes over and over

and over and I want them to be

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perfect and then I get very

frustrated when they are not exactly

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how I want them, and then I am

constantly critiquing myself, this

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is not right and my family is like,

it is delicious!

Are they honest?

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They are amazing, sometimes too

honest, but that is how I like it.

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This is going in here blended, I

have removed the bay leaf.

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have removed the bay leaf. I will

put the almond oil and the cream in

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here.

Not roasted almond oil, just plain,

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and a little bit of cream? That is

for the richness of the puree? You

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are making the Polpetto puree.

It

will make it really silky, you

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wanted lovely and smooth, a velvety

texture.

That takes quite a while,

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so we have some already made,

otherwise we would not be able to

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talk with the noise in the studio.

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Remember if you'd like to ask us

a question, then give us a call

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now on 0330 123 1410.

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Calls are charged at your

standard network rate.

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I am picking some purslane here.

It

is lovely and plump, it has a

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wonderful seasonal taste. It is

natural from the sea, where it

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grows, the coastlines.

You could use

some fire?

Samphire is available in

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most shops these days. I will turn

the fish, it is a bit pink in the

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middle. I don't like cooking the

fish too much.

Wow, lovely.

A few

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lumps of butter.

Everything tastes

better with butter! Some better to

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finish off, then you will baste it,

which is therefore a reason, it

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really helps.

I will save on my

washing up, I will simply throw in

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the chilli and the sea purslane in

one pan, and let the fish rest next

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to it. I love it when you pick them

in little couples and they hang

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beautifully, it can be quite sandy

so you need to be careful.

If you

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can get purslane samphire?

Sage

works really nicely, crisp sage

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leaves.

-- if you cannot get

purslane or samphire. It has gone a

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beautiful colour, lovely and golden.

Can I steal some sea purslane,

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sorry?

And some lemon as well. And I

hear you are writing a second book?

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It is following up from my first

book, I am working to... I suppose

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connect the dots, working on menus

and kind of exploring social dining

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as it is now. I think it is so much

more now than just a dining

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experience, which is very exciting.

This smells lovely.

Florence, what

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is this I hear about the Hulk in

your kitchen?

Who tells you this?! I

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have been known to have a little bit

of a... A hothead occasionally. But

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I would say I am quite fair, it is

more of a three strike rule I always

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had, it someone asks me millions of

times, occasionally I will lose my

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temper a little. It is quite

Mediterranean, I go quite crazy and

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then I am over it. It is like, I am

fine. And everyone else is still

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horrified. And they don't expect it

from me, because I am short and then

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suddenly I go... And they go, my

God, she is crazy.

I love the puddle

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of almond puree. Tell us what we

have?

A lovely pan-fried pollock

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with almond puree, sea purslane and

chiili.

Smells and looks divine.

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My goodness.

Wait until you taste

this, Lesley. It is absolutely

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superb. And the textures are lovely.

Velvety smooth, and the crunchy fish

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on top.

My goodness, look at this.

And it is all mine!

No, it is not! I

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am diving in.

My goodness, that is

really superb.

Thank you.

I am going

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in again.

But so simple.

It is

gorgeous.

You say that, but it is

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technique.

Well cooked fish, with

beautiful...

It is so quick.

The key

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is that you have your prep sorted.

Would you like some?

Andy is looking

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lovingly. What have we got here?

I

have chosen XanaduChardonnay from

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Western Australia. If you're

thinking Aussie Chardonnay is huge

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and lots of boozy flavours, think

again. It is sharp Chardonnay, a

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natural permanent, not filtered.

Going for lots and lots of

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fresheners. Texture is a big deal in

wine, it goes beautifully with this

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screen is but the sharpness, the

definition, that comes from Margaret

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River, Ocean influence climate which

allows the grapes to preserve their

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thing.

Would it be all right if I

have a set that this time in the

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morning with two shows coming up?

Would I be allowed?

I give you full

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permission.

Good evening, thank you

very much!

A tiny bit over the lips.

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That was lovely. Great choice.

Remind us what you are cooking

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later, Andy?

A dry pork curry from

the south of Thailand with lots of

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fresh turmeric and lemongrass. Fresh

vegetables and herbs.

Turmeric is

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also good for your health. Ward away

those nasty bugs.

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Don't forget, if you want to ask us

a question this morning,

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just call: 0330 123 1410.

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Lines close at 11am today.

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You haven't got long

so get dialling!

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Or you can tweet us a question

using the hashtag #SaturdayKitchen.

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And don't forget to vote

for Lesley's food heaven

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or hell on our website.

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Now let's catch up with Rick Stein

on one of his Long Weekends.

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He's in Lisbon sampling some

of the best bites the city has

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to offer before rustling up some

salty cod fritters.

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Supermarkets have

taken their toll here.

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There's only the fish keeping

the last market I went to alive,

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and it wasn't very long ago before

this place was dead on its feet.

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But look at it now!

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It's full of people cooking food

and customers eager to eat it.

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What's good about it is you can

wander around, see the sights,

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smell the smells and decide

what you really want to eat.

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I'm really liking this place.

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It's part of half of

a market here in Lisbon.

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The markets are dying.

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It's the same in a lot of cities.

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People prefer going to

supermarkets, I guess.

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But here, this guy's got this idea.

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He worked for a famous

travel magazine.

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He got this idea of getting really

good chefs here into this market.

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Over there you've got

classic Portuguese dishes.

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There's chefs down there.

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You've got hamburgers, Asian food,

sushi, ice creams over there.

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You've got a magnificent

wineshop up there.

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And then just next to it, there's

a fantastic demonstration area.

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There's a cook shop and it's

absolutely filled with all

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the right sort of people.

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Apparently you can still get a meal

here at two o'clock in the morning.

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It's just a great idea and I think

it's possibly the future

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for central markets anywhere.

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This is a fabulous dish.

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It is the cheeks from the famous

black pig braised and served

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on a bed of mashed, sweet potato.

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This is, I think I am right

in saying, the favourite dish

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of Susana Felicidade.

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I'm going to try this

sweet potato first.

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OK.

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Oh!

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What do you think?

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Beautiful.

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The best, huh?

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The best.

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It is?

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A little bit of cinnamon

in there, is it?

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No.

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Nutmeg!

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You're right.

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Now you know.

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It's beautiful.

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And now for the pork, the cheek.

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The cheek, the pork,

what do you think?

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Oh!

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That pork is so dark.

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Yes.

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I'd have said almost...

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it's as full-flavoured as beef.

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It's fantastic.

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Iberian pork doesn't mean just

Spanish pork, does it?

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It means Portuguese as well.

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I hope so.

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It certainly does, it's

absolutely beautiful.

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Because the pork is Portuguese,

the chef is Portuguese, everything

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in that plate is Portuguese.

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Fabulous.

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It's early days, and I

hope this idea works.

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If it does, I hope it spreads

because it's so good to see these

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old markets still centred around

food and not on tatty

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suitcases and tattier trailers.

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Salt cod fritters,

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they are as common in

Lisbon as custard tarts.

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You find them everywhere

and they are delicious.

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Light brown and crusty and filled

with salt cod and coriander.

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This is bacalhau, dried, salted cod,

and this is a really good piece,

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actually because the sort of thicker

and the moister-looking,

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the better the quality.

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the better the quality.

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And this is what the same

piece of cod looks like

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after 48 hours' soaking.

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It's quite interesting,

I think people are much keener

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on salt cod and bacalhau

than they used to be and I suspect

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that is through holidays in places

like Spain and Portugal.

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The flavour, I think, when you first

come across it is quite difficult,

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but it's one of those tastes that

after you get used to it,

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you can't have enough of it.

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It's like a lot of things.

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I remember as a child

eating olives and thought,

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"Those are horrible,"

but after a while, those things that

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taste a bit off-putting first time

can often be the things

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you really, really like.

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I suppose the Portuguese have

probably got a salt cod recipe

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for every day of the year

but I love these fritters.

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I had them at the airport

when I was leaving the last

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time I was in Lisbon.

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I thought, "That is the best

fishcake I've ever tasted."

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I like to hand-chop my

parsley and coriander.

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I could put it in the mixer, but I

like the smell as I'm chopping.

0:20:450:20:49

There we go, and now just

to mash these potatoes.

0:20:490:20:54

Again, I could have put those

potatoes into the food processor,

0:20:540:20:57

but I find when you try and mash

potato in a processor it goes

0:20:570:21:01

a bit sort of gluey.

0:21:010:21:04

And now just adding the parsley

and coriander on top of that

0:21:040:21:10

and then tumbling out my cod,

olive oil, garlic and parsley

0:21:100:21:13

and just mix that all together.

0:21:130:21:17

Now, just a little bit

of egg to bind all that,

0:21:170:21:20

so I'm just whisking this egg.

0:21:200:21:21

I may not need to add it all.

0:21:210:21:26

I want to get the mixture

exactly right,

0:21:260:21:28

so about half in there.

0:21:280:21:30

And now some pepper.

0:21:300:21:31

Quite a lot of pepper.

0:21:310:21:33

No salt because there

is still plenty of salt

0:21:330:21:35

left in the soaked cod.

0:21:350:21:38

There we go, now that's ready

to mould up and fry.

0:21:380:21:44

I'm enjoying this, making little

moulds with two spoons.

0:21:440:21:47

They just look very nice

when they come out of the fryer.

0:21:470:21:52

Incidentally, you don't want to put

too many in the fryer,

0:21:520:21:56

because you drop the temperature

of the oil and they will

0:21:560:21:59

start falling apart.

0:21:590:22:00

They're looking really nice.

0:22:000:22:01

So, I thought long and hard

about what dishes I should cook

0:22:010:22:04

for my long weekend and this,

I think, is probably

0:22:040:22:07

the most important.

0:22:070:22:08

I'd go as far as to say the most

popular snack in Lisbon

0:22:080:22:12

and it's pretty damn good.

0:22:120:22:20

Thanks, Rick.

0:22:220:22:24

Now, it's not just the Portuguese

who love salt cod.

0:22:240:22:27

I've also got a recipe,

which uses it.

0:22:270:22:29

It's called Brandade de Morue,

and it's a Provencal speciality.

0:22:290:22:35

First thing, it has been soaked in

water for 24 hours to remove the

0:22:370:22:42

excess salt and it goes into a pan

of milk with a bay leaf and a bit of

0:22:420:22:48

rosemary and some chopped garlic.

The best way to remove the salt or

0:22:480:22:52

reconstitute the caught is in a

toilet cistern.

Is it?

Absolutely!

0:22:520:23:02

It is clean water and you flush it

several times a day so it changes

0:23:020:23:08

the water.

When I next come round I

am checking your sisters.

Is this a

0:23:080:23:16

starter or a main course?

It could

be that, it could be any, it could

0:23:160:23:22

be a snack will stop you like salt

cod?

Yes.

And artichoke.

That almost

0:23:220:23:34

went on my food heaven list, you are

doing it right this morning.

I am

0:23:340:23:42

getting lots of brownie points. We

need to talk a little bit about, you

0:23:420:23:49

have got two shows today.

I just had

some wine and that was heaven. I

0:23:490:23:54

have got two shows but we do eight

shows per week. I am on the most

0:23:540:23:59

amazing journey, I have been doing

it since last July and I had three

0:23:590:24:04

and a half months working with the

genius that is

0:24:040:24:10

genius that is Mel Brooks. I keep

wondering, is it real? People say

0:24:120:24:22

the older you get it gets more

difficult as an actress or performer

0:24:220:24:25

but for me it's been the other year

around, the last five years have

0:24:250:24:29

been fantastic.

Who are you playing?

For some reason, this was from the

0:24:290:24:41

movie, every she says her name

foresees

0:24:410:24:49

foresees horses winning. Mel Brooks

said it was meant to be the German

0:24:490:24:51

word for glue which I don't think is

true but that is how I think of it.

0:24:510:24:55

She is the housekeeper at the

Transylvanian character that Victor

0:24:550:25:00

Frankenstein used to make as

monsters. The wonderful Hadley

0:25:000:25:06

Fraser plays young Frankenstein who

comes back to create another

0:25:060:25:10

monster. It is wonderful, it is mad

and I think the one thing Mel Brooks

0:25:100:25:16

said, to do this you have to enter

Mel Brooks's world which means

0:25:160:25:23

anything and everything can happen

but to us it's a completely normal

0:25:230:25:26

world. So we play it with the

intensity that you would any other

0:25:260:25:31

performance but it is mental and mad

and glorious.

It sounds fantastic,

0:25:310:25:37

and you sing.

Dance. Move, I move a

little.

0:25:370:25:46

little. We have been nominated for

best new musical which... Really

0:25:460:25:53

exciting.

How did you get the part?

I don't know. I was doing Strictly

0:25:530:25:59

Come Dancing in 2016 and when it

finished I had an e-mail from my

0:25:590:26:03

agent saying they wanted to see me

for a young Frankenstein. I did not

0:26:030:26:07

take it seriously that I was about

to meet Mel Brooks so I went for a

0:26:070:26:12

workshop with an associate director

and did a two-hour workshop and then

0:26:120:26:16

they sent a tape over to Mel and

then a week later I got a phone call

0:26:160:26:25

from my agent saying Mel Brooks

rhythm is not coming over, so I

0:26:250:26:28

thought I hadn't got it but then he

said they wanted to offer me the

0:26:280:26:31

part. I kept seeing for about a

week, what you mean they are

0:26:310:26:37

offering me the part? Do you mean I

am going to work with Mel Brooks? I

0:26:370:26:41

could not it in. Then we worked with

him for three and a half months.

0:26:410:26:47

Part of which was the most traumatic

thing I've done in my life. Ross

0:26:470:26:54

Noble, we met Mel Brooks and one of

the producers in the Savoy and I'm

0:26:540:27:00

afraid I had a bit too much

champagne cocktails.

As you do.

I

0:27:000:27:05

know because I was doubly nervous,

he is a legend.

What was he like to

0:27:050:27:15

work with?

We had a couple of weeks

rehearsing before he came and then

0:27:150:27:19

we had a read through and

practically every other line it was

0:27:190:27:23

no, that's not how you do it, this

is what I want! I started my song

0:27:230:27:30

five times, no, you are killing it!

This was in front of a whole company

0:27:300:27:36

and I thought my goodness. I had

heard, true or not, that sometimes

0:27:360:27:41

if he does not like you he can make

a phone call the next day and say

0:27:410:27:46

get rid of horror. I like to think

that is apocryphal. Look at my

0:27:460:27:50

hands, just talking about it, I am

clasping my hands thinking about Mel

0:27:500:27:55

Brooks. It turned out to be the most

glorious tee and a half months of my

0:27:550:28:01

life. Susan Strowman herself is a

Broadway legend. We can see that as

0:28:010:28:07

a boarder Belshaw, there is a lot of

music and it's like a musical

0:28:070:28:14

tradition. It is fast moving and

wonderful sets and costumes.

I have

0:28:140:28:19

to interrupt for a moment, vital

ingredients and things going on over

0:28:190:28:23

here. The salt cod poached in the

milk, flaking like that. I am going

0:28:230:28:31

to add to that the garlic cooked in

here, not the bay leaf or anything,

0:28:310:28:37

just some of the garlic.

Garlic is

supposed to be really good for your

0:28:370:28:43

blood?

Absolutely. Always eats and

garlic every day. Wonderful

0:28:430:28:48

especially with ginger. A splash of

olive oil.

It's a gorgeous colour.

0:28:480:28:55

Then some of the milk, just a little

bit of the milk to let this down.

0:28:550:29:02

Then we get the wooden spoon and

really mash it up and eat it in. The

0:29:020:29:07

name of this dish comes from the

French word which means shaking

0:29:070:29:13

vigorously. You are beating and

beating this until you break it down

0:29:130:29:17

and emulsify. Sometimes it's super

smooth and fine, that's because it's

0:29:170:29:24

been blitzed in a food processor but

I like it when it still got some

0:29:240:29:29

texture.

Does it matter if it has

texture?

I like a bit of texture. It

0:29:290:29:35

brought together like this, emulsify

and then you can add lots of olive

0:29:350:29:39

oil if you want it wet or more milk

but I like it...

And that is a good

0:29:390:29:45

exercise for bingo wings.

Funny you

should say that. We are going to the

0:29:450:29:51

gym later.

0:29:510:29:52

Young Frankenstein has been

0:29:580:30:00

Young Frankenstein has been extended

until September?

Until September.

0:30:000:30:05

You had to come and see it.

I

promise I will. And would you hope

0:30:050:30:10

that it will maybe be Broadway, or

take a...

I do not know if it'll go

0:30:100:30:18

back to Broadway, I would love to do

it in Australia, Ross Noble who

0:30:180:30:22

played it originally lives over

there and Birds of a Feather is

0:30:220:30:26

shown in Australia, so that would be

a dream come true. Or maybe an

0:30:260:30:29

American tour. If I do nothing else

than this it is enough.

I will put

0:30:290:30:35

some bread crumbs on there, bake it

in the oven to give it colour and to

0:30:350:30:40

heat it through and here they come,

just like this. You will find these

0:30:400:30:45

in the South of France especially,

in the likes of the charcuterie or

0:30:450:30:52

the marketplace, you take them home

and pop them in the oven. It is a

0:30:520:30:56

little ready meal. I will take the

one that is a little bit... This

0:30:560:31:02

one. Bake it in the oven like so,

these are piping hot so be very,

0:31:020:31:06

very careful. Knife and fork to the

ready. I have a little bit of the

0:31:060:31:13

Castrol Franco, which is a gorgeous

colour.

Are you quite fussy about

0:31:130:31:19

the aesthetic on the plate, so it

looks beautiful with the colours on

0:31:190:31:22

the way it is a range question

I

think it is important.

I do, too.

0:31:220:31:32

Olly, quite difficult, salty and

artichoke?

For me I would be

0:31:320:31:37

thinking a Provencal rose. A

beautiful wine with a savoury edge

0:31:370:31:44

which is perfect to pick up on the

artichoke.

A nice rose du Provence,

0:31:440:31:49

that would be lovely. A feud leaves

around it to dress it up -- a few

0:31:490:31:55

leaves. It looks quite pretty. Be

careful, Lesley, it is piping hot.

0:31:550:32:01

Really very hot. Bon appetit to.

0:32:010:32:06

Everybody is waiting to see what I

think. I will be honest.

I know you

0:32:110:32:15

will be!

0:32:150:32:20

will be!

Say no more.

I'm happy.

It's beautiful.

0:32:210:32:24

So what will I be making for Lesley

at the end of the show?

0:32:240:32:27

Will it be her food heaven - hot

smoked salmon and a refreshing

0:32:270:32:31

courgette and ginger salad?

0:32:310:32:32

I'll smoke my own honey and soy

glazed salmon and serve it

0:32:320:32:34

warm on some freshly-made blinis and

serve

0:32:340:32:36

them up with a zingy

courgette and ginger salad.

0:32:360:32:38

A heavenly trio of delights.

0:32:380:32:40

But if Lesley gets hell,

then it's a devilish duo of blue

0:32:400:32:42

cheese and rich, dark chocolate.

0:32:420:32:47

It is hot, be careful!

0:32:470:32:49

I'm going to roast some pears

and fill them with an especially

0:32:490:32:52

ripe and mouldy Stilton along

with some celery and walnuts

0:32:520:32:54

and then smother them

with the richest, darkest chocolate

0:32:540:32:56

sauce you could imagine!

0:32:560:33:01

Don't forget, what she

gets is down to you!

0:33:010:33:03

You've only got around 25 minutes

left to vote for Lesley's food

0:33:030:33:06

heaven or food hell.

0:33:060:33:08

You've got the power!

0:33:080:33:10

So go to the Saturday Kitchen

website and have your say now.

0:33:100:33:15

We'll find out

the result at the end of the show.

0:33:150:33:18

Now, it's over to Raymond Blanc

for some of his Kitchen Secrets.

0:33:180:33:21

He's making a perfect winter

salad with beetroot,

0:33:210:33:23

pumpkin and sauteed mushrooms.

0:33:230:33:31

I've got my beetroot already done

which is brilliant, fantastic.

0:33:560:33:59

They're marinating nicely here.

0:33:590:34:00

Now serve them tepid.

0:34:000:34:01

Write that down on the

recipe - serve tepid.

0:34:010:34:03

Raymond's final dish

is a celebration of seasonal

0:34:030:34:05

vegetables, a winter salad.

0:34:050:34:10

Steamed beetroot sits atop pumpkin

puree, garnished with sauteed

0:34:100:34:12

mushrooms and pan fried mini

pumpkin, all drizzled

0:34:120:34:14

with red wine essence.

0:34:140:34:22

It's a beautiful dish really just

for a lovely winter day.

0:34:240:34:27

It celebrates these

wonderful vegetables

0:34:270:34:28

which are being so underused.

0:34:280:34:36

OK, so now let's cut it.

0:34:360:34:38

Voila.

0:34:380:34:39

Look at that.

0:34:390:34:40

The colour of the flesh

tells me that you've got

0:34:400:34:42

a very ripe pumpkin here.

0:34:420:34:43

Now, I'll move this beautiful

treasure aside here.

0:34:430:34:45

Chunks of peeled pumpkin will make

up two elements of the dish.

0:34:450:34:50

Voila.

0:34:500:34:51

Circles of pumpkin cut with a pastry

cutter will be fried until golden.

0:34:510:34:58

So you've got a nice little pumpkin,

mini pumpkin so to speak.

0:34:580:35:02

And from the trimmings,

Raymond will make a pumpkin puree.

0:35:020:35:08

Put the pumpkin trimmings in olive

oil for five minutes.

0:35:080:35:12

Put this in here.

0:35:120:35:13

Oui.

0:35:130:35:17

That's flavour.

0:35:170:35:18

What I'm extracting here is flavour.

0:35:180:35:21

The right smell already tells

you exactly where we are, OK?

0:35:210:35:26

Cover and leave to soften

on a gentle heat for ten minutes.

0:35:260:35:30

Meanwhile, pan fry

the pumpkin circles.

0:35:300:35:34

Very simple here, I want to brown

them on one side to a lovely colour

0:35:340:35:38

and then I will turn them around

and finish them off in the oven.

0:35:380:35:44

The pumpkin is better to overcook it

than undercook it because you get

0:35:440:35:50

the flavour through cooking,

so if you undercook it,

0:35:500:35:52

it's not very nice.

0:35:520:35:57

Now you've got the right colour.

0:35:570:35:59

It's not beige like English

cuisine of of the 70s.

0:35:590:36:02

It's really appetising,

it's dark, it's alive.

0:36:020:36:06

Season the pumpkin circles and put

them in the oven for seven minutes

0:36:060:36:09

at 170 degrees centigrade.

0:36:090:36:15

Once the pumpkin trimmings

have softened...

0:36:150:36:17

Oh!

0:36:170:36:18

The hot pumpkin!

0:36:180:36:20

..liquidise to make a puree.

0:36:200:36:24

That one is just right.

0:36:240:36:25

No added liquid, just as it is.

0:36:250:36:27

Salt, pepper, dash of

lemon juice and puree.

0:36:270:36:33

We've got a very fine puree here.

0:36:330:36:36

Just lovely.

0:36:360:36:38

Add olive oil and for a nutty

flavour, a dash of hazelnut oil.

0:36:380:36:41

Oh.

0:36:410:36:42

What a lovely smell.

0:36:420:36:45

I have got my pumpkin puree here,

which is ready, just still warm.

0:36:450:36:49

On top of the puree will be bite

size pieces of beetroot.

0:36:490:36:54

Raymond has already steamed

the beetroot and marinated it

0:36:540:36:58

in olive oil and balsamic vinegar.

0:36:580:37:00

Now he reheats to

develop the flavour.

0:37:000:37:03

Adam, where are the small leaves?

0:37:030:37:07

They're here, Chef.

0:37:070:37:09

Then afterwards it's up

to you what you want to add.

0:37:090:37:12

I've found some lovely

little wild mushrooms,

0:37:120:37:14

lots of wild mushrooms,

girolle, chanterelle

0:37:140:37:16

and black trumpets.

0:37:160:37:19

Raymond sautes beetroot leaves...

0:37:190:37:22

Oh, pardon.

0:37:220:37:23

..and mushrooms with

a squeeze of lemon juice.

0:37:230:37:29

OK.

0:37:290:37:30

So now I'll add the girolle.

0:37:300:37:33

Tres bien.

0:37:330:37:39

The sauce, which will be

drizzled over the dish,

0:37:390:37:42

is a reduction or essence of red

wine and ruby port.

0:37:420:37:46

And I'm using the port to cut

the harshness of the wine.

0:37:460:37:50

The pan is hot.

0:37:500:37:53

Add 100 mls of port

into a hot frying pan.

0:37:530:37:58

When it is reduced by half,

add the same amount of red

0:37:580:38:01

wine and star anise.

0:38:010:38:05

Just that much.

0:38:050:38:10

That will set up the

pumpkin beautifully.

0:38:100:38:13

When the essence is reduced

to a syrupy consistency,

0:38:130:38:15

leave it to cool.

0:38:150:38:17

Look at that beautiful colour.

0:38:170:38:19

That flavour will be

really stunning, too,

0:38:190:38:24

and now with my little essence here.

0:38:240:38:26

We are now ready to serve the dish.

0:38:260:38:30

First, pumpkin puree.

0:38:300:38:33

Tres bien, very simple.

0:38:330:38:35

The beetroot leaves,

a few beetroot leaves,

0:38:350:38:39

I'm going to add for

a nice chew.

0:38:390:38:40

OK?

0:38:400:38:43

This is wonderful beets.

0:38:430:38:48

Then add your cooked

pumpkin circles.

0:38:480:38:50

OK, so lovely.

0:38:500:38:52

Next the warmed marinated beetroot.

0:38:520:38:54

They're a bit on the hot side

but you can cool them

0:38:540:38:57

down on the dish, OK.

0:38:570:38:59

Tres bien.

0:38:590:39:00

Oh, so lovely.

0:39:000:39:05

Then the sauteed mushrooms.

0:39:050:39:10

And the dish is ready.

0:39:100:39:12

You can make it as simple

or as complicated as you want to.

0:39:120:39:16

Raymond tops off the salad

with crunchy parsnip ribbons...

0:39:160:39:20

You can either dry them in the oven,

OK, or deep fry them.

0:39:200:39:25

..and deep fried sage leaves.

0:39:250:39:27

A burst of little flavours, of sage.

0:39:270:39:29

Look at that.

0:39:290:39:31

It breaks like glass.

0:39:310:39:34

Finally, drizzle the salad

with the port and red wine essence.

0:39:340:39:37

This is the dish that represents

all that I believe in -

0:39:370:39:40

the celebrations of the seasons.

0:39:400:39:48

Merci, Raymond!

0:40:000:40:01

A true celebration

of winter veg, there.

0:40:010:40:07

You worked with Raymond, didn't you?

Yes, and Robin Gill. It was

0:40:070:40:12

wonderful.

Good experience with

Raymond? Got fantastic, a true

0:40:120:40:18

inspiration. He is inspirational.

But look delicious. Still to come...

0:40:180:40:25

Find out how

Radio 1 DJ Chris Stark got

0:40:250:40:27

on when we sent him off to meet

the chefs behind

0:40:270:40:30

award-winning kebabs.

0:40:300:40:31

He's one happy man!

0:40:310:40:32

It's almost omelette challenge time!

0:40:320:40:33

That means it's time

for some puns - So, Lesley,

0:40:330:40:36

without FEATHER ado, here they are..

0:40:360:40:39

I can't believe you are laughing!

I

can't believe you said that!

0:40:390:40:44

Florence and Andy,

0:40:440:40:45

you are both FLEDGLINGS when it

comes to this challenge,

0:40:450:40:48

but I don't want it to be a BIRDen,

you can just WING it.

0:40:480:40:52

But avoid any FOWL language.

0:40:520:40:57

Thank you for laughing!

0:40:570:40:59

Will Lesley get her food

heaven - hot smoked salmon

0:40:590:41:01

with a courgette and ginger salad?

0:41:010:41:03

Or her food hell - roast pears

stuffed with blue cheese,

0:41:030:41:05

served with a rich chocolate sauce?

0:41:050:41:08

There's still a chance

for you to vote on the website,

0:41:080:41:10

and we'll find out

the results later on!

0:41:100:41:13

Right, on with the cooking.

0:41:130:41:14

Andy, what are we making?

0:41:140:41:15

Andy, what are we making?

0:41:150:41:20

Come over here, chef. We have some

magnificent ingredients. A quick

0:41:200:41:25

whizz through and let's get

cracking?

I am making a dried pork

0:41:250:41:29

curry from the south Thailand, it

involves me pounding a curry paste,

0:41:290:41:34

which I will start now. If you could

start on the vegetables, we will

0:41:340:41:38

serve them on the side to cool it

down, and some sprigs of herbs, take

0:41:380:41:42

them into the iced water.

Will do.

You are getting cracking on what she

0:41:420:41:48

will be putting in the mortar and

pestle, the base of the dish. Your

0:41:480:41:54

restaurant, Somsaa, I think it is

magnificent. I have had a couple of

0:41:540:41:58

meals there. I have always wondered

what Somsaa means.

It is a wow Thai

0:41:580:42:04

citrus fruit used in old-style Thai

could agree. It is a nice metaphor

0:42:040:42:09

for what we do in the restaurant,

old-style, uncomplicated recipes.

0:42:090:42:14

And it is just a nice word and a

lovely ingredient.

You get

0:42:140:42:19

ingredients flown direct from

Thailand?

We order a week in advance

0:42:190:42:24

and we get some amazing stuff the

following week. We are able to order

0:42:240:42:28

stuff as it comes into season in

Thailand and use really unusual

0:42:280:42:32

stuff that is hard to find even in

Thailand sometimes.

You the trouble

0:42:320:42:37

to Thailand a lot?

Every year.

--

you travel to Thailand a lot?

Try to

0:42:370:42:46

taste the food, go to a different

region every time and explore some

0:42:460:42:49

of the food out there. Tah something

new, each time try to get out of the

0:42:490:42:54

beating track and cook with locals.

It is a really important part of

0:42:540:42:58

what we do and keep close to the

food and keep your taste aligned

0:42:580:43:03

with the Thai taste and seasoning.

Why Thai food, why did you get

0:43:030:43:11

interested in that style of cooking?

I always gravitated more towards

0:43:110:43:15

Asian food than Western food, I

found it more exciting, I love the

0:43:150:43:20

ingredients and the flavours. Even

when I was young I was picking up

0:43:200:43:24

cookbooks and more picking out

Madhur Jaffrey plasma cookbooks,

0:43:240:43:27

Vietnamese cookbooks and Thai

cookbooks more than Delia Smith etc.

0:43:270:43:32

I love all food around the world,

but particularly Asian food.

The

0:43:320:43:37

disciplines must be radically

different, the foundations?

One of

0:43:370:43:44

the exciting things about the food

is it breaks all the western rules

0:43:440:43:48

and cookery. You learn things you

should not do in Western food, then

0:43:480:43:52

you learn that in Thai food lots of

those rules are smashed out of the

0:43:520:43:56

water, which is really exciting.

Some super fun techniques. You might

0:43:560:44:01

salt a fish and smoke it for an hour

and deep fryer to 20 minutes, at the

0:44:010:44:05

end of it is this crazy crispy thing

which does not represent fish that

0:44:050:44:09

you know in western cookery and

breaks of French cookery, but the

0:44:090:44:18

end product in a salad with a really

zingy dressing, it is amazing and

0:44:180:44:21

make sense.

The fried fish in your

restaurant is amazing, it is so

0:44:210:44:24

crispy you can eat all the bones. A

quick week up?

Lemongrass, fresh to

0:44:240:44:30

narrate, Thai shallots, garlic,

black pepper, dried chilies, which

0:44:300:44:34

are quite spicy, and shrimp paste.

The pork will go with the curry

0:44:340:44:38

paste. It is almost getting dry

fried out. I will put the tiniest

0:44:380:44:43

splash of oil in. The name of the

dishes Kua Kling, which means to dry

0:44:430:44:49

fry without oil. This

0:44:490:44:56

fry without oil. This is not an oily

dish.

I can see there is hardly any

0:44:560:44:59

oil, and it is a dry mints.

Not too

much fat.

And it smells beautiful,

0:44:590:45:03

so fragrant. How is your Thai

language? Do you speak a bit?

I

0:45:030:45:09

would not like to exaggerate how

good my social Thai is, but my

0:45:090:45:13

kitchen and food Thai is pretty

good. I spent six months working in

0:45:130:45:17

a restaurant in Bangkok where you

had to do servers in Thai, so it was

0:45:170:45:22

a Thai speaking kitchen, so I did

cook a re-dot-macro sorry, not

0:45:220:45:27

cookery courses, language courses

every day before work to get up to

0:45:270:45:31

speed, I had to do service in Thai.

I can talk to people about food,

0:45:310:45:37

which is really important and really

helps you.

0:45:370:45:44

In a social circumstances get by

with the basics but not much more

0:45:440:45:48

than that.

You can order your food

and a beer, that is the most

0:45:480:45:52

important thing.

I can walk around a

market and asked people how they do

0:45:520:45:56

things and you learn a lot more.

Do

you still find new ingredients out

0:45:560:46:00

there?

Absolutely, the food is so

diverse and sophisticated, it is as

0:46:000:46:07

big as French or Italian food and

you only realise it as you travel

0:46:070:46:10

around, you get out there and

realise, you thought there was one

0:46:100:46:14

variety of something but there is

actually 500 varieties with

0:46:140:46:22

different techniques, a truly

rewarding.

Can you talk is how the

0:46:220:46:26

other regions differ?

They are

really different. Often influenced

0:46:260:46:32

by the country's next to them.

North-east Thailand is next to Laos,

0:46:320:46:41

down on the site you have Malaysian

influences and the Obama it's an

0:46:410:46:48

Indian influence. In Bangkok it's a

melting pot but a lot of Thai

0:46:480:46:52

Chinese food. Often influenced by

neighbouring countries, a real

0:46:520:46:58

melting pot.

Talking about

ingredients, I have never come

0:46:580:47:04

across this before, white turmeric?

Yeah, really exciting, it is often,

0:47:040:47:11

you needed role. It has an almost

medicinal, very earthy flavour.

When

0:47:110:47:19

I received your recipe I was reading

the ingredients list and some things

0:47:190:47:26

stood out, most dropping chilies?

I

am being polite.

It was something

0:47:260:47:34

else!

It's a literal translation.

Most dropping Chile, because they

0:47:340:47:42

are that size, they are about the

size of a

0:47:420:47:55

size of a mouse to. A pinch of Chile

and some fish sauce.

It is so

0:47:550:48:01

aromatic it is wonderful.

0:48:010:48:05

And if you'd like to try

Andy's recipe or any

0:48:050:48:07

of our studio dishes then

visit our website

0:48:070:48:09

bbc.co.uk/saturdaykitchen.

0:48:090:48:10

While you're there you can vote

for Lesley's heaven or hell!

0:48:100:48:15

Are you getting this?

We are.

You

have got fresh green peppercorn as

0:48:150:48:25

well as lime leaves, we will put

some lemon grass.

You have another

0:48:250:48:33

restaurant on the go maybe?

Yes,

working on a second restaurant, it's

0:48:330:48:41

early days, exciting ideas about

what we want to do in terms of

0:48:410:48:44

locations, it is early days, trying

to focus on keeping things amazing.

0:48:440:48:52

It is your second year.

Yeah, it

feels great to get towards a second

0:48:520:48:59

birthday, it's when you start to

feel like it might be a restaurant.

0:48:590:49:03

It's not just a flash in the pan.

You feel like people are coming

0:49:030:49:09

back, customers are regulars.

Wonderful. He got the fiery heat of

0:49:090:49:16

the pork stir-fry.

Then that over

the top. And alongside a nice

0:49:160:49:25

selection of these crunchy

vegetables straight out of the ice

0:49:250:49:30

which cools down, the food in South

Island is pretty spicy but eating

0:49:300:49:38

these fresh vegetables...

Take this

leaf and did a bit of...

Yes, wrap

0:49:380:49:47

it up or chase it afterwards and it

cools the palate down. You need this

0:49:470:49:52

with rice and vegetables it all

makes sense.

Some of the white

0:49:520:50:00

turmeric, I will munch on that.

Looks smashing. What have we got?

It

0:50:000:50:10

is Pinot Gris, a dry pork curry from

Thai. -- it is Kua Kling, a dry pork

0:50:100:50:21

is Pinot Gris, a dry pork curry from

Thai. -- it is Kua Kling, a dry pork

0:50:210:50:22

curry from Thailand.

The aroma is

just amazing.

You put it in front of

0:50:220:50:28

me?

Of course.

Is it wrong to eat

with your hands, I love eating with

0:50:280:50:36

my hands. I think it is wonderful.

It is very fiery and I know you are

0:50:360:50:42

not...

I'm a bit nervous.

Try the

white turmeric.

And this has

0:50:420:50:51

medicinal properties, everyone says

it.

It tastes like it is good for

0:50:510:50:55

you.

So what wine do we have?

Lots

of fruit required because spice can

0:50:550:51:03

make wine feel dry, this is a Pinot

Gris from Alsace in France, the

0:51:030:51:09

grapes have a longhand time so...

How is the spice going? You need a

0:51:090:51:15

drop of Pinot Gris!

LAUGHTER

220 odd growers getting together to

0:51:150:51:27

make a wine which is peachy, a

pretty number, with spicy food, have

0:51:270:51:34

mine...

I literally had a tiny, oh

my goodness.

It is hot but you need

0:51:340:51:43

belief to go with it.

This afternoon

's performance could be interesting,

0:51:430:51:51

cheers! I blame you!

If it turns

into a pantomime it is my fault.

0:51:510:51:57

Sorry.

LAUGHTER

That is lovely. I think it is

0:51:570:52:05

wonderful. Will it be on your menu?

It has been on and it is one of

0:52:050:52:12

those things we will probably put

back on as well.

0:52:120:52:15

Now let's catch up with Si

and Dave, the Hairy Bikers

0:52:150:52:18

on their Asian Adventure.

0:52:180:52:19

They're on a quest to

discover what's on the

0:52:190:52:21

breakfast menu in Hong Kong

before learning the art

0:52:210:52:23

of the heritage noodle.

0:52:230:52:31

Hundreds of thousands

of people are hurrying

0:52:540:52:56

into the Central District for work

in the skyscrapers.

0:52:560:52:59

But we're here to find

out what Hong Kongers

0:52:590:53:01

eat in the morning.

0:53:010:53:02

I like the look of this

for breakfast, Si.

0:53:020:53:04

Oh, it's fabulous, isn't it?

0:53:040:53:05

Yeah.

0:53:050:53:06

It smells of Asia!

0:53:060:53:07

Fish.

0:53:070:53:09

I can smell fish.

0:53:090:53:10

Can you believe it?

0:53:100:53:11

A quarter of locals here

have their morning meal out

0:53:110:53:14

at least five times a week.

0:53:140:53:16

And Dave and I have heard the locals

are rather partial to a good

0:53:160:53:19

old-fashioned fry-up.

0:53:190:53:21

There's Suzie.

0:53:210:53:22

Hey!

0:53:220:53:23

There she is!

0:53:230:53:24

Hey, Suzie.

0:53:240:53:28

I've been waiting

for over two hours.

0:53:280:53:29

You cannot be.

0:53:290:53:30

You haven't got a watch on.

0:53:300:53:32

So, if you want to eat?

0:53:320:53:33

I'm starving.

0:53:330:53:34

Yeah.

0:53:340:53:35

All you two need is a fishing rod!

0:53:350:53:37

You have to help me down.

0:53:370:53:39

Oh, I love you!

0:53:390:53:43

Hong Kong celebrity Suzie Wong

is going to show us how

0:53:430:53:45

she likes to start the day.

0:53:450:53:48

This place is called

a cha chaan teng.

0:53:480:53:50

A load of them opened up

in colonial times and they're

0:53:500:53:53

still popular today.

0:53:530:53:55

It's as close to a greasy

spoon as you'll get here,

0:53:550:53:58

serving mixed-up comfort foods

to locals who want a taste

0:53:580:54:01

of Western grub on the cheap.

0:54:010:54:04

There's a Spam noodle.

0:54:040:54:05

Spam noodles?

0:54:050:54:07

Yes!

0:54:070:54:08

Spam noodles.

0:54:080:54:09

# Spam, beautiful Spam!

0:54:090:54:10

# Beautiful Spam...

0:54:100:54:13

This is brilliant.

0:54:130:54:14

Wow.

0:54:140:54:15

Egg sandwich.

0:54:150:54:16

Oh, egg butties!

0:54:160:54:17

Corned beef?!

0:54:170:54:18

Corned beef!

0:54:180:54:19

It's white bread, sliced,

with the crusts off.

0:54:190:54:21

Fundamentally, that's a corned

beef savoury sandwich.

0:54:210:54:23

This is a Pot Noodle

with Spam and a fried egg.

0:54:230:54:27

Yeah.

0:54:270:54:28

It's very westernised.

0:54:280:54:29

Are you going to have a try?

0:54:290:54:31

I'll give some to you.

0:54:310:54:34

Have a bite.

0:54:340:54:40

Aw, look at this, Kingy.

0:54:400:54:41

It's a Hong Kong

breakfast club sandwich.

0:54:410:54:42

Corned beef, egg, four

slices white processed.

0:54:420:54:44

Double-decker, dude.

0:54:440:54:45

Class.

0:54:450:54:46

SI AND SUZIE LAUGH

It's not bad.

0:54:460:54:48

Isn't it?

0:54:480:54:49

No.

0:54:490:54:50

It's interesting.

0:54:500:54:51

It's not full of expats in here.

0:54:510:54:53

No.

0:54:530:54:54

I thought it'd be full

of crusty old colonels that

0:54:540:54:57

had been left behind,

having their bully

0:54:570:54:58

beef and egg butties.

0:54:580:54:59

It's fascinating, isn't it,

that you have these kind of echoes

0:54:590:55:02

of the cuisine of the past...

0:55:020:55:03

from 100 years ago.

0:55:030:55:05

Hmm.

0:55:050:55:06

You can see how important to a lot

of nations Hong Kong was,

0:55:060:55:10

and from that, you get these multi

layers of food from different

0:55:100:55:13

places around the world,

different influences brought in,

0:55:130:55:17

and kind of mish-mashed together

in this mad city cuisine.

0:55:170:55:19

It's nuts!

0:55:190:55:21

Come on, let's have a go.

0:55:210:55:22

Yeah.

0:55:220:55:25

It is, um...

0:55:250:55:26

How do you like it?

0:55:260:55:27

It's strange, because the luncheon

meat is quite kind of economy

0:55:270:55:31

luncheon meat, and the noodles do

seem to be quite kind of instant.

0:55:310:55:36

Yeah, it is instant noodles.

0:55:360:55:39

Trust the British to leave a legacy

of corned beef and egg sandwiches,

0:55:390:55:42

spam and egg noodles...

0:55:420:55:45

God bless 'em!

0:55:450:55:49

It's interesting that

in the same way we Brits have

0:55:490:55:51

westernised Chinese cooking,

the people here have

0:55:510:55:52

adapted our food for their tastes.

0:55:520:55:56

Well, that's not what you call

an Asian treat, is it?

0:55:560:55:59

No.

0:55:590:56:00

I mean, it's interesting, it's

a legacy that we Brits left behind,

0:56:000:56:03

but I did feel it's come back

to haunt me.

0:56:030:56:05

It's still coming back

to haunt me, I tell you!

0:56:050:56:08

That's wrong.

0:56:080:56:09

I wanted Asian adventure,

not an egg sandwich.

0:56:090:56:11

We need to go and find

something local.

0:56:110:56:13

Something bright.

0:56:130:56:14

I've got just the thing - noodles!

0:56:140:56:19

Of course, Hong Kong's the place

that brought us Brits this key

0:56:190:56:22

Cantonese ingredient.

0:56:220:56:26

And we've wangled a rare

invite into the back room

0:56:260:56:30

of the Lau Sum Key noodle house

in Kowloon to learn

0:56:300:56:32

the secrets of making

the ultimate heritage noodle.

0:56:320:56:37

This place opened in 1931

and the family business has been

0:56:370:56:41

handed down from father to son,

ending up today in the hands

0:56:410:56:44

of noodle artiste Jason.

0:56:440:56:52

JASON SPEAKS IN OWN

LANGUAGE

0:56:520:56:53

How many?

0:56:530:56:54

About 30, 35.

0:56:540:56:55

35?

0:56:550:56:56

30?

0:56:560:56:57

Duck eggs are going to make it

really rich, aren't they?

0:56:570:57:00

The colour of those yolks

is going to go through the noodles.

0:57:000:57:02

Fabulous.

0:57:020:57:03

It's good to see you

get cracking, Kingy.

0:57:030:57:05

Did you have to?!

0:57:050:57:11

All that's in these

noodles is eggs, flour and water.

0:57:110:57:14

Not mixed, but pressed into a dough.

0:57:140:57:16

How old were you when you

started making noodles?

0:57:160:57:18

11 years old.

0:57:180:57:19

11?

0:57:190:57:20

Yeah.

0:57:200:57:21

Do you like making noodles?

0:57:210:57:22

I like doing this now,

but when I was young

0:57:220:57:24

boy, I don't like this.

0:57:240:57:27

THEY LAUGH

So far, so normal.

0:57:270:57:31

Having worked the dough

to activate the gluten,

0:57:310:57:35

it's time for Jason's party trick.

0:57:350:57:38

OK.

0:57:380:57:45

THEY LAUGH

Well, I can honestly say

I've never seen a rodeo technique

0:57:450:57:48

of noodle making before.

0:57:480:57:49

Yee-ha!

0:57:490:57:52

Saddle up, cowboy!

0:57:520:57:56

The pressure of kneading

with the bamboo and Jason's body

0:57:560:57:58

weight makes for a denser noodle

with a springy texture...apparently.

0:57:580:58:02

Once the dough's been ridden

to within 3mm of its life,

0:58:020:58:05

it's on to grandad's original

cutting machine

0:58:050:58:07

for noodle formation.

0:58:070:58:09

Wow!

0:58:090:58:10

Wow!

0:58:100:58:13

It's a really, really strong

dough, isn't it, Kingy?

0:58:130:58:15

Yes, mate.

0:58:150:58:16

And that means you can

cut it really fine.

0:58:160:58:21

And long may the bamboo-pole method

of noodle making continue.

0:58:210:58:26

I'll second that, Kingy.

0:58:260:58:32

That is hilarious.

0:58:370:58:39

I too have never seen

noodles made rodeo style.

0:58:390:58:42

Might try it in my restaurant.

0:58:420:58:47

Maybe not! Let's take some calls

from our viewers. Pamela from

0:58:470:58:51

London?

Hi, Michel. I would like to

ask the chefs for a recipe using

0:58:510:59:03

kumquats, I love them.

Did you say

Mitchell?! I have been called a lot

0:59:030:59:09

worse! Kumquats.

I fried muscles in

some semolina, semolina salt, fry

0:59:090:59:17

them and slice the kumquats and have

some rosemary and Mendes I fried

0:59:170:59:22

mussels.

0:59:220:59:27

mussels.

Thank you, Pam-eela! I told

you we would have fun today.

0:59:300:59:35

mussels.

Thank you, Pam-eela! I told

you we would have fun today. Lesley?

0:59:350:59:36

I am not sure I can speak after

the... Sarah says everybody tastes

0:59:360:59:42

better with butter, but which type

of butter is best?

For me, I always

0:59:420:59:48

cook with unsalted and I never

skimp, so it has to be quality. I am

0:59:480:59:53

French so I usually go for the

French butter. But for my toast in

0:59:530:59:57

the morning, salted butter with

marmalade. Salted for your toast.

0:59:571:00:05

Good morning, guys, I have some

beautiful black pudding and I would

1:00:051:00:09

like a different way to cook it.

Thanks.

In the autumn I love to do

1:00:091:00:16

caramelised apples with pan-fried

black pudding, delicious. Crumbled

1:00:161:00:19

Warner 's. -- crumbled walnuts.

And

a lovely Beaujolais from France.

1:00:191:00:28

British black pudding is quite firm,

French black pudding is crumbly and

1:00:281:00:32

then the Spanish one... Thai, do

they do black pudding?

They have a

1:00:321:00:40

little blood cake that goes into

soups, and they'd use it in some

1:00:401:00:44

mince dishes, they add blood while

they cook and it adds richness.

Our

1:00:441:00:49

next caller is a net from

Eastbourne.

I always cook a rabbit

1:00:491:00:56

in a stew with tomato soup and

mushroom soup and vegetables, I

1:00:561:00:59

would like a different way of

cooking it.

Rabbits, a great way of

1:00:591:01:07

cooking it is poaching it and then

picking it down off the bone

1:01:071:01:12

afterwards. You can join to the

rabbits, cook the different sections

1:01:121:01:17

according to... Boulogne takes not

very long, the legs take longer.

1:01:171:01:26

very long, the legs take longer. --

the loin takes not very long. Then

1:01:261:01:28

you can put it in a pie, a curry or

a wood glue.

And a nice confit in

1:01:281:01:39

oil.

1:01:391:01:41

That is it!

1:01:411:01:42

The heaven and hell

vote is now closed.

1:01:421:01:44

Lesley's fate is sealed!

1:01:441:01:45

And we will reveal the results

at the end of the show.

1:01:451:01:47

On Monday it's the British Kebab

Awards, a celebration of everything

1:01:471:01:50

and everyone kebab related.

1:01:501:01:56

So who better to send

on a fact-finding mission

1:01:561:01:58

than self-confessed kebab fan

BBC Radio 1's Chris Stark.

1:01:581:02:04

Over 1.3 million kebabs are sold

across the UK every day. There are

1:02:041:02:09

no 20,000 Kabaddi clips, selling a

massive 2.5 point 5000 tonnes of

1:02:091:02:15

chicken and lamb done every week. --

selling a massive 2500 tonnes.

1:02:151:02:22

Judging by the pictures you have

been sending in, you guys absolutely

1:02:221:02:26

love kebabs, just like me.

1:02:261:02:28

How are you, Russell?

You all right?

Tell me why you're Kabaddi is so

1:02:351:02:41

popular?

It is fresh meat, we use

English chicken and lamb, everything

1:02:411:02:48

natural.

I bet you have seen a few

things? Ago people eating boxes

1:02:481:02:52

instead of the kebabs. Have you

served footballers?

Yes.

Should they

1:02:521:03:00

be eating it?

It is good food, fresh

salad, fresh lamb, fresh chicken.

1:03:001:03:08

Could I please try some of the

second Mark Roe doner. We are joined

1:03:081:03:15

by the founder of the British Kebab

Awards. Tell us more?

I have worked

1:03:151:03:20

in this industry since I was 14, I

realise there is nothing to

1:03:201:03:25

celebrate the hard-working people of

this country.

All this talk of food

1:03:251:03:28

is making me very hungry. Oh, my

goodness! Take a little bit of that.

1:03:281:03:37

That is so good. It is not just

kebabs than serving up quality

1:03:371:03:42

kebabs, there is a growing trend of

fine dining restaurants. Ebrahim, I

1:03:421:03:47

am jealous. You can finish up. I am

going to eat another kebabs.

1:03:471:03:56

Do you think the kebabs has a bad

reputation, would you say?

I would

1:03:561:04:02

say so, unfortunately. People

usually associate kebabs and doner

1:04:021:04:06

after the pub, but there is so much

more to it and that is what we're

1:04:061:04:10

trying to showcase.

You have to talk

to me about this. Is this even

1:04:101:04:15

kebabs?

Yes. It is on a skewer.

Anything on a skewer, kebabs?

You

1:04:151:04:21

can call kebabs. We have prawns,

wild Alaskan salmon... Salmon,

1:04:211:04:28

monkfish.

It is beautiful, it is a

work of art. It is sexy.

We do Waygu

1:04:281:04:39

B.

In kebabs?! It is really

expensive.

It is. We will cook the

1:04:391:04:47

Waygu today.

Are you watching,

Michel Roux? These are my knife

1:04:471:04:51

skills, if you ever need somebody in

your kitchen. It will be the best

1:04:511:04:55

parsley you have ever had chopped.

It is a work of art. Isn't that

1:04:551:05:01

amazing?! Oh, can you hear that!

That noise alone just makes you

1:05:011:05:09

hungry.

1:05:091:05:15

hungry.

These are fermented

mushrooms, dehydrated. The Army

1:05:151:05:17

flavour. And sunburnt onion or

should.

You are like the Picasso of

1:05:171:05:23

kebabs.

1:05:231:05:28

kebabs.

-- and some burned onion

ash.

My word, that might be the best

1:05:281:05:32

thing I have ever eaten.

Thank you

very much, Chris.

You are the man!

1:05:321:05:39

I had eaten so much kebabs. Can I

just say thank you so much, Saturday

1:05:391:05:45

Kitchen, for sending me to do this?

It has literally been one of the

1:05:451:05:48

best days of my life. Now what is

for lunch?!

1:05:481:05:55

Good knife skills, Chris. You would

be welcome in any of my restaurants.

1:05:571:06:00

Welcome to the show, Berg. You are

up for two awards. Best fine dining

1:06:001:06:08

kebabs and...

Best fine dining

restaurant and chef of the

1:06:081:06:15

kebabs and...

Best fine dining

restaurant and chef of the year.

It

1:06:151:06:17

is extraordinary. Turk in. We have

to try this. You are here because we

1:06:171:06:24

want to try it. Tell us exactly what

they are?

Batters the Waygu, on a

1:06:241:06:32

bed of hay smoked strained yoghurt

and barbecued aubergine pays to --

1:06:321:06:39

that is the Waygu. Then we have the

ocean kebabs, monkfish, salmon,

1:06:391:06:44

prawns, octopus on a bed of fennel

salad.

This does not look like your

1:06:441:06:51

normal kebabs.

But you do the

regular kebabs?

We do not do it on

1:06:511:06:56

the spit, that the regular skewer, a

la signature dish, the

1:06:561:07:07

the spit, that the regular skewer, a

la signature dish, the lamb shish.

1:07:071:07:10

Do you enjoy a Kabaddi Saturday

night? But not just on a Saturday,

1:07:101:07:14

it is by every night of the week!

And what about you, Florence? You

1:07:141:07:19

have your mouth full.

I love the

sources on the spices and the fruit,

1:07:191:07:23

pomegranate seeds. It brings its

allies -- I love the sauces and the

1:07:231:07:28

fruit.

After the show?

Occasionally.

I think it is amazing you have made

1:07:281:07:36

the humble Kabaddi to something like

that. Congratulations and good luck.

1:07:361:07:41

That is absolutely terrific.

1:07:411:07:43

Right!

1:07:431:07:44

It's omelette challenge time.

1:07:441:07:45

Andy and Florence -

neither of you are on our new board

1:07:451:07:48

and you've only done it once before,

but do you think you're going

1:07:481:07:51

to make it into the frying pan?

1:07:511:07:57

to make it into the frying pan?

1:07:571:07:57

Be careful at the plans, they are

smoking hot. -- careful with the

1:07:571:08:04

plans.

1:08:041:08:06

The aim is to make fast,

edible three-egg omelettes that

1:08:061:08:09

are good enough to feed

to our hungry crew.

1:08:091:08:11

CHEERING.

1:08:111:08:13

Or maybe me, I am still peckish.

1:08:131:08:16

But if they're not they'll

go in the compost bin.

1:08:161:08:18

BOOING.

1:08:181:08:20

So will it be crew or compost?

1:08:201:08:25

Three X.

1:08:251:08:27

Your time will stop when your

omelettes hit the plates.

1:08:271:08:31

Don't forget themselves and pepper.

Fast, furious. -- don't forget some

1:08:311:08:39

salt and pepper.

1:08:391:08:42

Let's put

1:08:421:08:43

the clocks on the screen.

1:08:431:08:48

Are you feeling confident? No quail

eggs hiding?

1:08:481:08:50

Are you both ready?

1:08:501:08:53

Go!

1:08:531:08:57

I see the technique. Straight in the

pan.

1:08:591:09:08

pan. And the whisk, OK. Here we go.

Florence shaking the pan. Some

1:09:081:09:18

seasoning would be nice.

1:09:181:09:24

Oh!

1:09:241:09:28

Oh!

1:09:281:09:31

It is a bit smoky in here.

It is not

my finest.

You are getting the

1:09:311:09:39

excuses in already.

It is the right

shape.

It certainly is a far better

1:09:391:09:43

shape than Matewan. There is

1:09:431:09:46

shape.

It certainly is a far better

shape than Matewan. There is still a

1:09:461:09:47

bit left in here. It is cooked. It

is the way I like my omelette. There

1:09:471:09:59

is a nice crunch of salt as well!

Right, now, Florence. There is a

1:09:591:10:11

little bit of goo.

That is butter.

That is butter, that is undercooked,

1:10:111:10:18

gooey egg. I am afraid that will go

into the compost bin.

I not one?!

1:10:181:10:25

Not that one. Look at it! Oh! Sorry,

guys.

1:10:251:10:36

Florence, you will have to come back

again. But you are in good company

1:10:361:10:40

down there. Andy's time...

1:10:401:10:48

down there. Andy's time... We have

31.88 seconds, that definitely puts

1:10:491:10:53

you, gosh... There is room for you

in that plan.

That deserves a round

1:10:531:11:04

of applause.

Maybe not the shape,

but it was cooked and tasty.

1:11:041:11:08

So will Lesley get

her food heaven - hot

1:11:081:11:10

smoked salmon with a

courgette and ginger

1:11:101:11:12

salad?

1:11:121:11:13

Or will it be a hellish

combination of blue

1:11:131:11:15

cheese and rich chocolate?

1:11:151:11:16

We'll find out after

Nigel Slater shows us another

1:11:161:11:18

of his simple suppers.

1:11:181:11:21

Part of the magic of allotments

for me is their location,

1:11:311:11:34

the fact that they almost have

to be hidden away.

1:11:341:11:36

You're driving along

through a very grey area,

1:11:361:11:38

with almost no trees,

and you turn a corner

1:11:381:11:40

and you've got a little Eden.

1:11:401:11:42

You go from factories

to sunflowers and beans

1:11:421:11:44

in the space of one turning.

1:11:441:11:50

This allotment in east London is hom

to Linden and her daughter, Nell.

1:11:501:11:55

So courgettes have

done well this year.

1:11:551:11:57

They've done really well this year.

1:11:571:11:59

In fact, we call it

the ubiquitous courgettes.

1:11:591:12:02

I've actually grown four different

varieties this year.

1:12:021:12:04

We've fed half of South

Hackney with them.

1:12:041:12:08

This little section here,

this is like your little ratatouille

1:12:081:12:10

section when you think about it?

1:12:101:12:11

Oh, someone had to say it!

1:12:111:12:16

LAUGHTER.

1:12:161:12:17

Mediterranean.

1:12:171:12:18

I'm fascinated by people's sheds.

1:12:181:12:19

Oh, it's so tidy!

1:12:191:12:20

I had a special tidy-up.

1:12:201:12:21

I was doing my housewife

number yesterday.

1:12:211:12:29

My own elderflower champagne that

I made from my elderflowers.

1:12:321:12:34

Thank you so much.

1:12:341:12:35

Thank you very much.

1:12:351:12:36

It's really fizzy!

1:12:361:12:38

You've got to be careful

when you open it.

1:12:381:12:39

We might have some later.

1:12:391:12:41

I want to cook a warming dish

from the crops that Linden

1:12:411:12:43

has grown this year.

1:12:431:12:44

I'm using squash, spring onions,

herbs and some garlic.

1:12:441:12:47

If I'd grown these, I'd be pretty

proud of myself, to be honest.

1:12:471:12:50

They're perfect!

1:12:501:12:51

They're completely perfect!

1:12:511:12:56

Ooh!

1:12:561:12:57

Smells lovely already.

1:12:571:12:58

Aren't they beautiful?

1:12:581:12:59

You've got a bit of garlic.

1:12:591:13:01

Can I have a bit of garlic in there?

1:13:011:13:03

Along with the garlic,

I'm going to pop in some rosemary.

1:13:031:13:07

Nell, you've got some chillies.

1:13:071:13:08

I have.

1:13:081:13:12

Have you tasted them, Nell?

1:13:121:13:13

Are they hot?

1:13:131:13:14

I haven't tried them

yet, so I don't know.

1:13:141:13:16

They've only just gone red.

1:13:161:13:17

I don't think it matters

whether they're hot or not,

1:13:171:13:20

because we've still got that

lovely chilli flavour.

1:13:201:13:22

If they are hot, well, great.

1:13:221:13:25

I think they'll have a bit

of a poke to them.

1:13:251:13:28

They should do.

1:13:281:13:29

Just a wee bit.

1:13:291:13:31

This is really easy dish to make.

1:13:311:13:34

Keep it simple, with one main

vegetable, but season it

1:13:341:13:38

strongly with garlic,

hot chilli, salt and pepper.

1:13:381:13:42

That's going to be nice

but not very substantial.

1:13:421:13:46

I brought a loaf with me.

1:13:461:13:48

A-ha!

1:13:481:13:51

There's a storm a-brewin'.

1:13:511:13:54

That is the most beautiful cloud

formation, but I think I know

1:13:541:13:56

what it's got in it!

1:13:561:13:58

Yes.

1:13:581:14:01

Do you think I've lost my heat?

1:14:011:14:03

Just tuck in, I think.

1:14:031:14:05

I can't wait!

1:14:051:14:05

I'll go for that one.

1:14:051:14:08

THUNDER RUMBLES.

1:14:081:14:10

Beautiful colours going on.

1:14:101:14:12

Mmm!

1:14:121:14:13

It's lovely.

1:14:131:14:15

Very hot, Nell.

1:14:151:14:16

Mm.

1:14:161:14:17

Mmm!

1:14:171:14:19

Lovely squash.

1:14:191:14:24

Really tender.

1:14:241:14:25

Crikey, ten minutes ago,

they were growing.

1:14:251:14:28

Can't get fresher

than that, can you?

1:14:281:14:30

You can't.

1:14:301:14:37

If I'm cooking with lamb

in the summer, I'll choose a nice,

1:14:421:14:45

lean little fillet

to put on the grill.

1:14:451:14:47

When the weather gets cold,

I'll choose a piece

1:14:471:14:49

of lamb with the bones.

1:14:491:14:50

There is so much flavour

and goodnes in not just

1:14:501:14:53

the bones, but all the sinews

and the cartilage and everything.

1:14:531:14:55

Tonight's dish is what I

like to call "a cheap

1:14:551:14:58

supper for a cold night".

1:14:581:15:00

Coat your meat in flour

to help it form a crust.

1:15:001:15:03

I'm using neck of lamb.

1:15:031:15:06

My stews and hotpots have a lot

of vegetables in them,

1:15:061:15:09

and I use the vegetables to actually

soak up some of the

1:15:091:15:12

flavours from the meat.

1:15:121:15:19

So as my meat browns,

it's going to leave lots of crusty

1:15:191:15:22

little deposits of goodness

on the pan, and I want

1:15:221:15:25

those into my stew.

1:15:251:15:31

So I'm going to stick some onions

in, even a few parsnips -

1:15:311:15:34

proper winter veggies.

1:15:341:15:37

That fat in the pan is already full

of flavour from that meat.

1:15:371:15:40

I'm not going to waste a little

bit of that flavour.

1:15:401:15:48

I'm also going to put a little

bit of garlic in there,

1:15:561:15:59

and I don't want it to taste very

strongly of garlic, so I'm

1:15:591:16:04

going to leave the garlic

in great big pieces.

1:16:041:16:07

I'm just going to halve the cloves,

because what you get when you cook

1:16:071:16:11

garlic in big pieces is a mildness.

1:16:111:16:14

It's only when you chop it very

finely that you get that pungency.

1:16:141:16:20

I need a herb in that, something

that will slowly give its flavour up

1:16:201:16:25

and won't dissolve to nothing.

1:16:251:16:28

For this dish, I'm using rosemary.

1:16:281:16:32

Pop the lamb back into the pan,

add some salt and pepper,

1:16:321:16:36

and to make this dish even more

of a meal, bung in

1:16:361:16:39

a few chopped spuds.

1:16:391:16:43

You can use any sort

of potatoes for this.

1:16:431:16:47

It's rather nice with little waxy

ones, or some big old floury main

1:16:471:16:50

crop potatoes as well.

1:16:501:16:51

Whatever you've got.

1:16:511:16:55

To let the ingredients

speak for themselves,

1:16:551:16:58

I'm using water instead of stock.

1:16:581:17:02

I don't want to lose a scrap

of flavour so I'm going to cook

1:17:021:17:05

that with the lid on.

1:17:051:17:08

I'm even going to put a bit of paper

on top to keep everything in.

1:17:081:17:13

Cook at a low heat for an hour,

or longer if you can.

1:17:131:17:21

Apart from anything else,

this is really cheap food.

1:17:221:17:26

These are the cuts that go

for almost nothing at the butcher's.

1:17:261:17:32

This is where it's all really

going on, is in the juices.

1:17:321:17:37

All the goodies from

the bottom of the pan have

1:17:371:17:40

all dissolved into the juices.

1:17:401:17:43

It's the sort of supper that

you start with a spoon,

1:17:431:17:46

you carry on with a knife and fork,

and then you end up picking

1:17:461:17:49

the bones up and getting a bit

down and dirty with it.

1:17:491:17:57

Thanks Nigel - it's always good

to get down and dirty!

1:18:011:18:08

That looked delicious.

1:18:081:18:10

Time to find out whether Lesley

is getting her food

1:18:101:18:12

heaven or food hell.

1:18:121:18:16

Are you worried?

No, because I know

what ever it is it will be

1:18:161:18:21

brilliant.

1:18:211:18:23

Food heaven is a gift

of three of Lesley's

1:18:231:18:25

favourite foods - hot smoked salmon,

courgette and ginger.

1:18:251:18:27

Or food hell, a dreadful

duo of blue cheese

1:18:271:18:30

and rich chocolate.

1:18:301:18:36

58% of voters went for... Heaven!

CHEERING

1:18:371:18:43

That is my idea of hell as well,

blue cheese and chocolate together,

1:18:491:18:52

I know there are fancy...

It was

your idea to put them together, I

1:18:521:18:58

said them separately but you put

them together.

There are people out

1:18:581:19:03

there that make chocolate truffles

flavoured with blue cheese but I'm

1:19:031:19:05

not a fan. We have slices of salmon

I will hot smoke. If you can prepare

1:19:051:19:14

me a nice julienne of courgettes to

make the salad. We have got a bit of

1:19:141:19:20

garlic, lemon juice to make the

dressing and some chopped chilli. We

1:19:201:19:25

are off. The first thing I want to

do is make a little kind of

1:19:251:19:29

seasoning for the fresh, season it

with some honey and soy sauce.

Which

1:19:291:19:36

I both love.

I did not know that.

You did not, but this is all my

1:19:361:19:43

heaven.

I picked this on and it will

seize the fish and give it a depth

1:19:431:19:52

of flavour. I'll leave it on there

for about an hour or so. Maybe a bit

1:19:521:19:57

longer if you like. And that will

permeate and glaze the salmon and

1:19:571:20:03

give it a lovely taste. Here it is,

I'm going to pop it into the smoker,

1:20:031:20:10

the hot smoker.

I'm going to move

away from that.

Just put a bit of

1:20:101:20:17

oil, there we go. Pop them on top.

How lovely to have you cooking

1:20:171:20:25

especially for me. It's a rather

special treat.

And I will come and

1:20:251:20:29

see you and your singing dancing for

me. So, Birds Of A Feather

1:20:291:20:35

celebrating 30 years.

Yes, 1989 was

the first one, the first episode

1:20:351:20:41

went out to something like 13

million people. At 1.I think we went

1:20:411:20:47

out to over 20 million. It's a

strange because we have so many

1:20:471:20:50

digital channels, I cannot speak

after that curry...

LAUGHTER

1:20:501:20:57

FIM of this afternoon are no

pressure.

It is extraordinary, how

1:20:571:21:04

long it has lasted, we are still

great friends and I think there is a

1:21:041:21:07

magical chemistry between the three

of us which is given with long legs.

1:21:071:21:14

Have you watched it, do you know it?

I mean do you watch it?

Of course.

1:21:141:21:21

He is a massive fan, he was

genuinely excited in rehearsals. I

1:21:211:21:25

was going to ask how you met for the

first time, was their instant

1:21:251:21:30

chemistry?

We met at the Ritz and I

will always remember because Pauline

1:21:301:21:34

was wearing her trainers and we

asked for water in her champagne.

1:21:341:21:39

But they let her in. It was

nerve-racking because they had known

1:21:391:21:42

each other literally since they were

eight years old and I just came into

1:21:421:21:48

this duo which are very powerful

together. But immediately there was

1:21:481:21:52

chemistry which worked. Off-screen

and on-screen. It's still there 30

1:21:521:21:59

years later. I cannot believe we

came back and there we are. Looking

1:21:591:22:03

a bit older, a little bit older. A

lot older.

But still going strong.

1:22:031:22:11

It is, last year we did a lovely

Christmas special. I am really proud

1:22:111:22:15

because I don't know many other

programmes that have had that

1:22:151:22:19

longevity.

Will we see another one?

We are waiting to hear.

On the

1:22:191:22:26

anniversary you would think they

would do it?

It would be nice. What

1:22:261:22:31

have you just done?

Here we have the

Bellini mix. Normally he would leave

1:22:311:22:38

the yeast to rise a bit longer but

we don't really have the time.

1:22:381:22:42

Yeast, milk, two flowers, bread

flour and arrive flower but you

1:22:421:22:47

could use buckwheat flour, bit of

salt and sugar, what I'd do is

1:22:471:22:53

whisked the egg whites... Yell like

with your hand, you don't have a

1:22:531:23:00

thing you put in and do it for you?

I'm amazed. This is my work-out.

You

1:23:001:23:10

don't even have bingo wings. When I

do love Pavlova which is probably

1:23:101:23:15

the only dish I can make that people

say is amazing, I do it with the

1:23:151:23:22

machine which makes life a lot

easier.

Was the Pavlova on come dine

1:23:221:23:26

with me?

You had asked! I have done

it twice, the first one was a

1:23:261:23:33

complete disaster and then they

invited me back for a best of the

1:23:331:23:36

worst and I won the second time! I

had roast duck with creamed

1:23:361:23:42

cauliflower and garlic crisps and I

made the best Pavlova. We pretended

1:23:421:23:46

it was the last meal on the Titanic

and I hired a string quartet and

1:23:461:23:50

instead of them staying while we

sank the got up and left as soon as

1:23:501:23:54

I came in and I said the reason it

sank was because I came the captain

1:23:541:23:58

and it went down with the ship. It

was complicated.

Was the voice of

1:23:581:24:04

the programme kind to you?

He was

not. Do you know? Have word. The

1:24:041:24:10

first was a disaster because

obviously I took so much I been

1:24:101:24:14

turning on the knob and it broke so

I had to use scissors to turn it on,

1:24:141:24:21

I put the lamb in but did not turn

the knob enough so after four and a

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half hours the land came out

bleeding. It was a complete

1:24:261:24:31

disaster.

Is that typical of your

work in the kitchen?

I am not a dab

1:24:311:24:36

hand but I think after this morning

and I energised to take a cookery

1:24:361:24:40

course. I love entertaining. I am

already doing a Sunday lunch, that

1:24:401:24:45

is fine but day-to-day cooking, no.

But I can act well!

We can act the

1:24:451:24:54

Leave vouch for that. These little

blinis, you can make a big one but I

1:24:541:25:02

like the little ones. They look

cute. And you are a fan of pancakes?

1:25:021:25:08

IME Fuge van. I love going to

America to go to the diners. The

1:25:081:25:16

pancakes are ridiculous, the food

portions but the pancakes are the

1:25:161:25:21

best.

You can use these for savoury

or sweet, all either or. You can

1:25:211:25:32

pile them up with lots of berries

and maple syrup and cream.

That is

1:25:321:25:39

how I like them.

What do you eat

before a performance?

It is

1:25:391:25:45

difficult to know, excuse me. It is

hard because if you eat too much...

1:25:451:25:54

It is the smoker the curry or both?

I think it is both. I don't need a

1:25:541:26:01

lot before a show, I will have a big

breakfast, then today, I have a

1:26:011:26:06

matinee, I will not eat again before

the show because I've had all these

1:26:061:26:09

delicious nibbles but you eat

lightly.

The last thing you want is

1:26:091:26:15

to have something very rich and

heavy you are going to...

It is nice

1:26:151:26:21

to eat after when it is all over you

can relax with a glass of wine or

1:26:211:26:25

two or three...

LAUGHTER

And actor Babette!

And the kebabs!

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Yes.

Is there a role you would love

to play but haven't?

I would love to

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play some of the great ladies in the

Chekhov plays. There are some great

1:26:401:26:44

roles. That is what I would love. I

am probably the right age now. Look

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at this.

Let's have a few more. Then

I take out the salmon. Then I will

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just take that. And it should come

straight off.

This is indeed my food

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heaven.

Come hear you.

This is here

just in case you need it.

Be

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careful, it is hot, don't touch it.

And some chives on top. There we go,

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let me get you a spoon and fork.

What am I drinking?

£9 in Tesco,

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this is made from Mo Zak Chardonnay

and Shennan blanc.

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and Shennan blanc. It's a another

cooperative winery. I think they do

1:27:401:27:42

a fantastic job great idea for

Mother's Day if you're looking for

1:27:421:27:48

at, Blanquette de Limoux.

That is

absolutely... That is divine. Would

1:27:481:28:00

you like some?

Good luck, we all

have our fingers crossed for you.

1:28:001:28:11

There is nothing like being

nominated for an award apart from

1:28:111:28:13

winning one I suppose!

I think you

should have a little sip.

Can I say

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thank you for a delightful morning,

it's been a joy.

It has been a

1:28:221:28:27

pleasure, break a leg this

afternoon.

It has been a great

1:28:271:28:31

morning. Thank you to all of you.

Brilliant.

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That's all from us today

on Saturday Kitchen Live.

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Thanks to all our studio guests

Florence, Andy, Olly and Lesley.

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All the recipes from the show

are on the website,

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bbc.co.uk/saturdaykitchen.

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Hopefully lots of mums will be

spoilt with some of those recipes

1:28:471:28:50

on Mother's Day tomorrow!

Don't forget Matt Tebbutt

1:28:501:28:52

has got more Best Bites

for you tomorrow at 9.30am on BBC2.

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Have a great weekend.

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Bye!

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