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Good morning. Welcome to the show. It's 10.00am on Sunday, the 14th of

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August. Simon, Amanda and myself are joined in the studio by one of

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Britain's shrewdest businesswomen and a dragon to boot, Deborah.

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Mercury Prize nominee and music sensation Katy B. They'll be here

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for some cocktails and a look at next week's telly. This is

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Something For the Weekend. Good morning. Welcome to Something For

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the Weekend. I have just gotten back from my holibobs. You were...

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Camping. It was a fantastic holiday. I thought you would have gone

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glamping. Barbara Windsor wasn't there. She might have been actually.

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I thought I saw her in the choos. Were you chasing after her -

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# Duh duh duh # That best Carry On scene... Is it

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going to happen in Babs like that. Where were you? Dorset, swimming in

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the sea. Isn't that a bit cold? It's all right. It's summer.

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Really? It was brilliant. I loved it - a bit of cloud, a bit of rain,

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a bit of sun, fantastic. I loved it. Were you glowing, Tim? Really good

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fun. I can't recommend camping enough. Did the girls like it?

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loved it. That must be the danger. When we were away, "Oh, it's a bit

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cold." I know, we get a bit Mony. "Do some star jumps!" Do the

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Barbara Windsor thing. We have an interesting little clip here

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because we love the forces here on the show. We have some - did you

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see this? Because I was away this week. I have seen it. I didn't know

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all the riots were going on, and I didn't have any communication. I am

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strange. I am addicted to 24-hour news. It was strange having things

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drip fed to me. I would go out to the car. Did you not go to the

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toilet? Yeah, I did go to the toilet, but there is no TVs. What?

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He didn't take a break, 24-hour news. Keep with it, Simon. This is

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apparently in the papers last week, that these lads were part of the

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Seven finks Commando. Easy for you to say. These are the lads in the

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Army doing Glee. Really funny. # Anything but roll the dice

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# Strangers waiting # Up and down the boulevard

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# They're shadows # Searching in the night

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# Duh duh # Don't stop believing!

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# Hold on to that feeling # Streetlights #

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LAUGHTER Good bods there, aren't they? Good

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bods on the lad. I love that. is not a single body hair on that

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don't tell me the forces are like our footballers - they're not

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taking hair strairtners out there and shaving their chests? I think

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if you enrol, you have to have no body hair. Because you run faster.

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Be like Beckham! We need our forces to be manly, don't we? You work

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your chest, don't you? Needless to say - that would absolutely kill me

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to do that. I have a hairy old chest. Now, let me tell you what

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guests we have on here. Following her album success, Katy B, the girl

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from Peckham with her brand of dance music, is here to talk about

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festivals, fame, and the possibility of winning the Mercury

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Music Prize. Very prestigious. And here to tell us about her life as a

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celebrity businesswoman is Deborah Meaden. Definitely not here to roar.

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Do dragons roar? They breathe fire. Spew. And the new one - Hillary - I

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like her. Good shoulder pads. shoulder pads! Brilliant. I have

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two ideas to pitch to Deborah. Are you going to ask for them on air?

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tell you what, we're going to be millionaires, all of us. Do you

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want in? Yeah. Please. We'll take over the world. Do you know what's

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sad? I have known you for five years, and you and I when we go out

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constantly have this discussion of the great business ideas we have.

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Funnily enough we haven't done any of them. You wait until you hear my

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ideas. You'll love them. This is from Debra, "A device that's built

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into your car so when you can't find it in the car park, you shout

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its name. It shouts back, 'I'm over here.'" the problem is we all know

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what we think about people who name their cars - losers. Do you name

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your car? I don't have a car. do you get around? I take the tube,

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and I take the bus. I do. Right. You - you're a driver, Simon. Now -

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I'm environmentally friendly. you drive, though? Yes. You don't

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have a car? No. I don't make as much money as you, Tim. You wait!

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Yes! Then you can buy as many cars as you like. This is an idea for

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Deborah, "Shoes with heated soles so you don't slip on ice." You

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would have to walk really slowly. Your feet would be really sweaty -

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horrible. Get your pitches in to Deborah, also, anything about

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business - she's great with talking about things like the recession.

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Get your views in on those. She'll answer anything. Get it in. Katy B

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is here as well, so if you have Please remember to tell us your

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name. What are we cooking today? Today it was starting with beetroot

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pancakes with king prawn - nice. Look at that. That looks really

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yummy! What's the herb you've got on there? A bit of dill. Beetroot,

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dill, prawns all works together. The main course - one of the things

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we featured before is rose veal, which is very much coming into

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prominence in Britain. Everyone goes - oh, veal! But the way the

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animals are treated is very humane. We should eat more because it

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actually uses the beef cashes more so than they would be destroyed -

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carbs. Dessert is plum and ginger trifle. I haven't had that for

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years. Proper old school - delicious. Do you have those

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sprinkly thingys? You can't have trifle without the hundreds and

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thousands. I used to go to the supermarket, take it, eat it all

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the way around, then put it back at the end. What? When I was a kid!

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You're the reason the country is in the state it is in. I think I

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should make a citizens' arrest. It's gone past seven years. You

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can't. Really? No, I just made it up. It's in Ireland. An Irish law.

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A non-car-driving criminal. That's me. Finally, courgette fritters

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with bloody mary tomatoes - courgette, sweet corn, a bit of

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carrot in there, then vodka, horseradish and tomatoes, delicious.

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All our recipes can be found on our website, bbc.co.uk/Something For

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the Weekend. Here is what else is happening on today's jam-packed

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show. We're going deep into the world of ocean giants. It's like

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jumping into six lanes of traffic! Elija Wood meets Will Friday.

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any DVDs? It's all going Harry Potter in Who Do You Think You Are.

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He's certainly risen in his profession. Some top TV to

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fleerkward to and hopefully top cocktails. Wayne? We have savoury

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drinks if you have that kind of palate. We have a twist on the

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brunch drink bloody mary called a canary mary. You do like to rhyme

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things, don't you? Using what? Yellow tomato juice. Is that unripe

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tomato juice? Golden tomatoes. have not had a yellow tomato.

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You're missing out. Can I have one on standby? Thanks, Wayne. Let's do

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some cooking - beetroot. The big effect of the riots is Wayne and I

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were supposed to go out Monday night, and the gig he was doing in

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Manchester got cancelled. Come up and see you anyway? So we didn't go

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out, no. Gutted. We're doing... was away with the riot - were the

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riots everywhere in the country? They hit hot spots. Manchester,

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Birmingham, London, obviously, a bit of Liverpool, a bit in Bristol.

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They didn't hit Scotland and Wales? It's an Irish riot. It's done,

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though, completely. We hope. We're going to do beetroot pancakes with

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king prawn. So for our pancakes we have butter, bacon powder, lemon,

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egg, raw beetroot, some milk and also some flour, then we have

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prawns, lime, paprika, dill and butter. Amanda... Yes, Simon Rimmer,

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to be sure. Stick the baking powder into there. I have got - where are

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our gloves? Hold on a second. Before we start gracing the

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beetroot we have to get the plastic - unless you're not... I am not

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bothered. Grate some beetroot into there. Then Tim, in the meantime,

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you can - milk, butter and egg into there. Whisk that together. Get a

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little bit of lemon zest. Whisk it until it comes together. It doesn't

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need to be fluffy or anything. a bit splashy, the old beetroot,

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isn't it? It is the greatest ingredient, though. I juice

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beetroots and drink the juice. anything? It tastes of earth.

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tastes of beetroot, actually. I mix it with carrot, cellry and a

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bit of apple juice. That's all right. I ain't no diva.

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When I was out camping all we had was barbecue facilities or cook on

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an open fire. Yeah. I love that, though. So I produced - I sent

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pictures to you, didn't I, because I was proud of myself. Because

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you're in a camp site doesn't mean you have to just eat rubbish. I had

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Chinese marinated steaks and sauteed cabbage. So it was glamping.

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No, that's what I made. He sent me pictures. It was brilliant.

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sends you pictures of everything he cooks? When he's proud of it, yeah.

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I go, "Look what I am doing on the barbecue," sauteed cabbage. I went

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into a supermarket and thought - because I like eating vegetables,

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and I can't eat too much continual meat, bread and potatoes. I thought,

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I am there for a week. What can I do? Sauteed cabbage. When I turned

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up to do it, everyone was just sniggering at me, "What the hell

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are you doing?" But everyone liked it! Everyone liked it. It's all

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about education. Amanda or doesn't matter who really - little by

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little - you probably need two- thirds... We do wet to dry?

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into dry. And a little - whisk it together so it starts to get gloopy.

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You want this to be smooth. This is the danger now, obviously, and

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because we have bits of beetroot in it is making sure - make sure you

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get the side bits in. Do we have enough beetroot in there? You can

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never have too much. You can have much, much moor. Look at the pink.

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Look at the colour. It's beautiful. So pretty, Simon. Nice, isn't it?

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That's why beetroot is so great, not only does it taste nice -

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beetroot is good in risotto. Had cod with roasted beetroot and a

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salad. You're so proud of yourself, aren't you? Hang on. Considering I

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used to eat frozen food for years. Everything I had came in... Was it

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when you started on this show? For the first year of doing this

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show, I was just not interested at all. Well, that's not helpful on a

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cookery show, is it? But I started thinking after awhile, you know

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what? Some of this food is quite good. Now I think it's just easier

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just to make everything. It's all about practise, isn't it? Simon is

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- I still don't do loads of sauces and things. Did you say the food is

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quite good? I don't know what I said. I think you said Simon's food

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on the show is quite good. His food is great. That's better. We have

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cooked together in his house! getting a little bit concerned

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about you boys. "Honey, look what I cooked!" It was good. This is the

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way to do it - get a full spoonful. As it goes in, tip it up like that.

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That's how we'll get nice circles. Oh, it's me. Yeah, go for it.

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You're now on those duties. Tim, here, what you're going to do now -

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we need you to chop some garlic, zest, a little bit of lime, and

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we're going to fry off the prawn. That'll probably do you. It's going

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to be weird because it means we're going to have an even number on the

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plate, but - which always makes you feel a little bit weird. Shall I go

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really like even numbers. It was weird, because when Amanda Hart net

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was on here, she produced four on a pleat. Angela, sorry. You've got me

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on the brain. She always put things into threes. Is it a chef thing?

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it's just me. I think three balances a bit better. It's the

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magic number. On television everything is in three. It's my

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lucky numbers. Tim, so we have... A bit of butter. The garlic can go in

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there. Amanda, hopefully now... I need to flip these? No. Get the

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spatula and flip. Where am I zesting it, into the pot? Straight

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into there, with the juice as well. Meanwhile we chuck in our prawns.

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I'm not doing very well, Simon. Hang on a second. Nice work. Five.

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Lovely. We also add a bit of paprika. From a flavour point of

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view, talking about the balance of flavours, we've got the earthy

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flavour of the beetroot and now we've got the garlic and paprika.

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It is quite nice everyone being around the stove. I think there are

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too many chefs in the kitchen. Or maybe it is many hands make light

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work. Or too many chefs spoil the broth. Tim, put some dill into

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there. We are on fire this morning. Those are pretty much done. If you

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don't like beetroot you can leave it out. We are making a savoury

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American-style pancake, a breakfast pancake. You can add chilli. Is it

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goes into the pan? Yes. There is our stack of amorphous-shaped

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pancakes. Our mix is slightly on the thin side. It works. But if you

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get to the that point it is like, that sift a bit of flour on the top.

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If you tip that in, it might be a lit lumpy but in a sieve you can

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add it lightly. It is exactly the same colour as your top. I co-

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ordinate all my food with my outfits during the week.

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Tim, Those are big prawns. And then we have a stack of our beetroot

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pancakes. And then our prawns. Loads of garlic, deliberately.

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We've got a big contrast of flavour. Lots of garlic, lots of prawns. And

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the dill gives it that bit of freshness, which works beautifully

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with the beetroot. The beetroot gives us our earthiness. We spoon

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over this delicious garlicky butter. A touch of sour cream on the top

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just to give us some acidity. are dying to get the dill on.

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dressing. Beautiful. Amazing. you go. So it is really gar licky,

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Simon, is it? I think these boot root pancakes, I would happily eat

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those on their own or with bacon if it is for a breaky thing. Loads of

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garlic. Paprika works well in it. Dill, lime. Pancakes. Absolutely

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stunning. What are we making for main course? Rose veal with a

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Romesco sauce: absolutely delicious. You can get all of the recipes on

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our website - bbc.co.uk/somethingfortheweekend.

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Very good. This is so fascinating, this show - not this show, the one

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we are about to show. This one is quite good. This is just mildly

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entertaining. LAUGHTER Sometimes. No more Hobbits for Elijah Wood. He

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play as failed lawyer who strikes up on unusual relationship when he

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meets his next door neighbour's dog, I know we've just met but I'm

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totally desperate. The exterminator is on his way and I didn't make

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arrangements for my dog. He said he was going to kill them. Sit OK if

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he stays in your yard until I get back from work? Huh? It's OK.

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Wilfred, come here boy. You like dogs? Yes. Great. Here's a few of

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his toys and snacks. Be a good boy. Very nice. Some sofas it's

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impossible to get comfortable. Not this one. Ryan is it? Yeah. Got any

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DVDs? A few. I like Matt Damon. he's good.

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It's my sister. Just pretend I'm not here.

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You can follow the first episode of Wilfred, which is a bit mental, on

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Tuesday at 10.30pm on BBC Three. want one of those dog suits.

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want a dog suit? So much fun you could have with that. Each to their

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own. Since last August our first guest has been on a mission to

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storm the charts with her dubstep sound. Three European hits and a

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tour and a Mercury Prize nomination under her belt, she looks set to do

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just that. # I keep on moving with the lights

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# So you can scan me with the lights on #

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# It's not that easy # These days can't find a man to

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please me # Their lines are far too cheesy

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# No boy's on a level, believe me # # I know we all make mistakes

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# But you're holding every breath that I take

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# This is more fake... # Brilliant music. Welcome to

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Something for the Weekend Katy B! It's been a whirlwind of a year for

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you hasn't it? Yes. Straight out of uni. Yeah, the Katy On A Mission

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video I did at uni, at the end. So at least I wasn't unemployed.

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you wrote it while in uni, not taking attention to your studies?

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Yeah, basically. Kind of. I was at uni and I was writing an album at

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the same time. It took a time, I was three years there. It took a

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while. I wish I went to uni later in life so I could have proper

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focused on it. When you say uni, I don't mean business studies, you

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studied pop, flight Yes, everything that comes under that umbrella,

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from folk to blues to, you know, song writing. Country and western.

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You can mix and match. They had a classical course as well. What did

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you stphrern But learn -- what did you learn? Pop music, there's a

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reason for it. All the social aspects of it of how genres are

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create, from punk to hip-hop. There's reasons for them starting.

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A lot of my tutors have written books on it. Did you come out with

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a degree in popular music? I did more of the practical side. I tried

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to avoid writing essays. So there's a practical side to the course as

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well,? Definitely. The choir was amazing. There was a singer called

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Esther. She is amazing. She is incredible. She was the choir

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teacher there. That was probably the best thing I got from going to

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uni. It is not the only school you went to, is it new went to this

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apparently famous BRIT School. There's only a couple of people

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who've come out of that famous aren't there - aderblgs Jesse, just

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a couple. -- Adele, Jesse, just a couple! What's going on? There is

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lots of different aspects to the school. There's dance, theatre,

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design, radio, media. I guess if someone is studying music and they

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want to go into the music industry, there is probably a chance they are

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going to do that. Whenever anyone is interviewed and they went to the

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BRIT School, they say it is like a normal school but we do other

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lessons. Is it like a normal school? I wept there when I was 14.

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Di my GCSEs there. I guess it was like my other school. I enjoyed my

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secondary school, but you went out at lunch time. A lot more freedom

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there. You still did normal lesson there is. -- lessons there. When it

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was full-time music, I loved it. And Adele and Jesse J were there

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with you? They were a year above. What about the success rate at your

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school? There must be loads in your year who haven't made it. In my

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class there wasn't all just female singers. My bass player in the band,

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he went to the BRIT. Not everyone wants to be a recording artist.

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They go into song writing or production or do something

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completely different really. got a record deal pretty swiftly, a

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year after leaving university, you released an album. That's pretty

:26:24.:26:32.

swift. I had my first sort of is 12 inch vinyl out when I was 17. I'm

:26:32.:26:40.

22 now. That was five years ago. you are so old! I'm getting old now.

:26:40.:26:46.

It wasn't an overnight thing. Making the album was definitely, on

:26:46.:26:51.

a mission, it took nearly three- and-a-half years to make it.

:26:51.:26:57.

your first 12 inch any good? have to do a bit of research.

:26:58.:27:05.

dig it out and have a listen. Your new single a Witches Brew.

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# Come see what I got for you # All the others can be

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misunderstood # Come with me

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# I will make you feel so good # Come with me

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# I will make you feel so good # Oh, oh, oh, oh

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# I need tow feel it too # All the others will be

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misunderstood # Come with me I will make you feel

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so good # Come with me I will make you feel

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so good # . That's a little bit scary. What's

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the idea behind the video? I guess, my whole album is quite real. I

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guess it's from while I as at uni partying there were all different

:27:49.:27:52.

situations. I think Witches Brew was the one song on it which was pa

:27:52.:27:57.

bit of a fant S it is still about really liking someone and them not

:27:57.:28:02.

liking them back and you wishing cue put a spell on them to make you

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theirs or whatever. It is definitely more of a fantasy tune,

:28:06.:28:11.

so I wanted the video to be more like... I don't know. The video at

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the end, I felt like I was on the set of Thriller. Your album's

:28:18.:28:21.

nominated for a Mercury Prize, which I think is the most

:28:22.:28:25.

prestigious of the awards. It is great isn't it? A lot of great

:28:25.:28:31.

bands in it this year. You all have to play live in front of each other.

:28:31.:28:37.

Are you nervous about this or excited? I'm definitely excited.

:28:37.:28:42.

I'm just happy to be nominated. It is great it is an award for the

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album. In this day and age when you can go on iTunes and buy individual

:28:47.:28:52.

tracks and everything, I guess to recognise the album in its entirety

:28:52.:28:58.

is a nice thing. Especially as you are so new. If you don't win, who

:28:58.:29:02.

do you want to win? I remember saying on the day I wanted a girl

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to win because there had only been three girls that had won it so far.

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I'm rooting for the girls. I went on tour with Tinie Tempah. He's

:29:12.:29:17.

great. I think James Blake will win it, if it is not you. Do you want

:29:17.:29:26.

to put bets on? He was in my class at uni. Was he! He went to

:29:26.:29:30.

goldsmith's. What happened to bands coming from pubs and stuff. I did

:29:30.:29:40.
:29:40.:29:43.

Are you going on tour? When are you off? I am going on tour in October-

:29:43.:29:47.

November, so I'll be all over the country. Festivals left, right and

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centre as well - you're a busy little girl. It feels like I have

:29:54.:29:58.

been to every festival, but it has been amazing, brilliant. Katy will

:29:58.:30:02.

be with us to run our eye over some gadgets and to cook a pudding with

:30:02.:30:08.

myself and Simon, so if you want to ask her or our Dragon Deborah a

:30:08.:30:13.

question, e-mail us or Tweet us. Please remember to send in your

:30:13.:30:17.

name. OK. This one is going to sort out the men from the boys - do we

:30:17.:30:22.

say "the girls from the women?" We don't. We should. This one is going

:30:22.:30:26.

to sort out the girls from the women. We're going to give you a

:30:26.:30:29.

song, some headlines and a classic TV show. All you have to do is give

:30:29.:30:36.

us the year they all have in common. Good luck with that one.

:30:36.:30:46.
:30:46.:30:49.

# Huh, huh, huh, huh, huh # I know this much is true

:30:49.:30:54.

The new law on the wearing of seat belts came into effect a month ago.

:30:54.:30:58.

All the signs are it's brought a dramatic reduction in deaths and

:30:58.:31:04.

serious injuries. The BBC's Breakfasttime, Europe's first

:31:04.:31:07.

regular breakfast TV service received more than 1500 calls of

:31:07.:31:11.

congratulations within an hour of going on air for the first time

:31:11.:31:14.

this morning. The compact disk player is in the shops today. It

:31:14.:31:18.

works with a laser beam, and it will cost at least �450, but the

:31:18.:31:22.

experts reckon it's a "sound" investment.

:31:22.:31:28.

# I bought a ticket to the world # But now I've come back again #

:31:28.:31:38.
:31:38.:31:50.

James, where did you get this Get up to your room. Get ready for

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bed. Go on. Now! Right. Any of those headlines, memories, ring a

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bell? '85. I think it's earlier than that. It's '85. You reckon?

:32:07.:32:16.
:32:17.:32:18.

Absolutely - no idea - absolutely '85. It's I'm going '82. '82 I am

:32:18.:32:26.

going. I was trying to think of the Spandau Ballet clothes - True. In

:32:26.:32:31.

the end of the night we had slowys at the end of the night in a club.

:32:31.:32:35.

Yeah. We should reintroduce you. Once you got a girl, you kept hold

:32:36.:32:39.

of her because it was so hard to actually go to telephones and phone

:32:40.:32:43.

people. It was embarrassing. There was no texting, cheating -

:32:43.:32:50.

communication with a girl, "Hello." Equally at the end of the week you

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would go around drinking - that's me off. Friday night sport. Time

:32:58.:33:04.

now for your versions of our dishes starting with the Netherlands, the

:33:04.:33:09.

sisters who made the lemon and pistachio cake. This is Chris

:33:09.:33:13.

Mottram from Solihull with his dog Roxie, stuffed courgettes from his

:33:13.:33:18.

own garden and he served them with homemade blackberry yogurt and

:33:18.:33:26.

honey. Nice swirl. Do you know how to do one of those? With a smoon.

:33:26.:33:31.

Shall we try them it? Fine. Clearly big Man City fans. We have Naomi,

:33:31.:33:37.

Colin, Ben and Amanda from left to right, and they made the coconut

:33:37.:33:43.

chicken curry. Swansea today for them. No, Monday, Monday night.

:33:43.:33:48.

Finally, a couple of forces guys - it'ss forces themed - Private

:33:48.:33:54.

McKelvey and Lance Corporal Burton out in Afghanistan, great, love

:33:54.:33:57.

these pictures. Come on, the forces!

:33:57.:34:01.

If you're going to send us in pictures if you're in the forces,

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tell us what you're cooking with and tell us all about what foods

:34:05.:34:11.

you're eating out there. Also, I'm competing again against Army chefs

:34:11.:34:18.

the 29th of September in Santo, so Army chefs, I need tips with what

:34:18.:34:27.

to do with the rash pack stuff e- mail us or Tweet us to get yourself

:34:27.:34:35.

on the fridge. So what are we making now? We're doing rose veal

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with a Romesco sauce. We can't be eating veal! Ingredients first -

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butter, garlic, the sauce, tomatoes we have charred over the flames so

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the skinned fall away, British rapeseed oil, some peppers we have

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roasted and peeled, a relatively smiled chilli pepper, lots of

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garlic, macadamia nuts and hazel nuts. Macadamia is supposed to be

:34:59.:35:04.

the King of nuts - always expensive, but always delicious, quality every

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time. Then with it a warm potato salad, British potatoes, parsley,

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butter and a bit of white wine vinegar. We have some breadcrumbs,

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egg and flour. Here is the fella himself, a lovely piece of rose

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veal. Veal is one of those things - it's a very contentious issue we

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have always shied away from it. British rose veal is a humane

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product. It's recommended by the British Meat Council as a really

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good product to eat. Basically, what happens is if you have beef

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carves, the vast majority - to be honest, the minute they're born,

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they're destroyed. What we have now with rose veal is they're kept for

:35:43.:35:53.
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six months, the same as you get for a lamb or a pig, kept in humane

:35:54.:35:59.

conditions. They're allowed to move around. This is completely

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different. What you get is a beautiful tender cut of meat and

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it's humane. It's say. You get it in lots of supermarkets now, and

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it's recommended eating. OK. First things first, what we're going to

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do is batter this out. On to there - bash it out - not with the

:36:17.:36:23.

knobbly bit, but the flat bit. No, not the knobbly bit. I looked at

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that and went - oh! Oh, dear. again, you know exactly what to do.

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It's making sure it's a nice, even bashing out. How thin do you want

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it? You want it to come out so it's quite thin, really. You want to

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cook this relatively quickly. good start to the football season

:36:42.:36:48.

for your boys? You know, yesterday, when it was halftime and Liverpool

:36:48.:36:52.

were beating Sunderland 1-0, I thought, this is exciting. Then we

:36:52.:36:55.

fell away in the second half, but I thought we looked exciting. Did you

:36:55.:37:01.

see us on Match of the Day? I did. I think Kenny Dalglish - I would

:37:01.:37:06.

like Liverpool to do well because I like Kenny and Steve Clark. They're

:37:06.:37:11.

playing good football now. I think they'll get there. It was quite

:37:11.:37:15.

exciting. It was tough being a Chelsea fan because we don't play

:37:15.:37:21.

until today, so I had to sit there yesterday watching all you lot play.

:37:21.:37:24.

It's shame the first day of the season isn't like the last day of

:37:24.:37:33.

the season when everyone play at the same time. So everybody plays

:37:33.:37:37.

at 3.00pm... Yeah, we should do. we all get involved in it. You have

:37:37.:37:44.

Stoke today, haven't you? Stoke. am good friends with young Timmy.

:37:44.:37:49.

wouldn't speak to him tonight. He'll be a very disappointed man.

:37:49.:37:52.

Do you think? I reckon we'll have won the League by the end of

:37:52.:37:58.

January. Predicting - I know you don't like predicting - you at home

:37:58.:38:05.

or away? Away, 6-0 to us. I am getting carried away - 5-0. Oil,

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butter, potatoes in the pan. We're going to Chriss those up. Now,

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we've got the veal beautifully battened out. Is that what we're

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looking for? Perfect. Then we go into the flour, pat it off, into

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the breadcrumbs, a little bit of salt on there as well. Did we not

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season the flour? The flour is already seasoned. We're double

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seasoning? Yeah. There we go. Pat the excess off there. Into the egg.

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Are we only making one of these? Yeah. It's just going to be

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beautiful because we're going to cook it in realtime. The joy of

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this, of course, is it's a really simple, fast thing to do. You don't

:38:46.:38:51.

have to batten it out. You could cook it as a lovely cut of meat. A

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warm pan, not too hot, because you don't want to burn the breadcrumbs.

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Lovely, and we cook away. So the potatos are cooking away

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beautifully. I have chopped a bit of parsley. Once these have a

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little bit more colour on them we're going to add in some white

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wine vinegar. Are these - these are not boiled or anything? Yeah, yeah,

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they're cooked. Cooked and fried in wine and parsley? Wine and parsley

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and vinegar - oil, butter, potatoes, white wine vinegar. So we get that

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acidity. Romesco sauce is a beautiful sauce, a sauce

:39:30.:39:33.

traditionally always associated with seafood, but you can do it

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with anything, and I think it works well with strong-flavoured meats.

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It is a Catlin dish. All you do for it is the tomatoes we have chard,

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take off the skins, the peppers we have charred, take off the skins

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from that, then you fry a little bit of chilli, but it needs to be

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mild. It shouldn't be spicy, spicy. It should be a warm spice, so it's

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a builder rather than one of those that goes, raa! It shouldn't be

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fiery. We toast off those ingredients. We could use olive oil,

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but I don't want that big flavour. It doesn't smell of anything.

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doesn't. It was always said rapeseed oil is going to be our

:40:17.:40:20.

version of olive oil. I don't think that's true in the slightest. I

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just think it's a good, quality oil and works in its own right. I am

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just going to drain off this butter into there. This is a classic

:40:31.:40:34.

combination of potatoes and meat, and then we flip over that little

:40:34.:40:38.

bit of veal like that - beautiful. Do you have to cook veal through

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or... No. It can be pink. A little bit of butter goes into there now -

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only got it on one side. I am trying to taste this. Maybe I'll do

:40:48.:40:53.

it this way. There you go. I'll taste it. You decide what you think

:40:53.:41:00.

it tastes like. Tastes like car oil - no, it doesn't. It doesn't taste

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of anything. No. It's got slightly more after-taste than a veg oil.

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There is a little bit of pepperiness just at the end. No?

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You not getting that? Not really. OK. In goes the parsley with the

:41:15.:41:19.

vinegar, so that's delicious, OK? Now our Romesco sauce... Sorry. I

:41:19.:41:22.

didn't listen to the answer about cooking this through. Do you have

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to cook this through? No, it can be rare. All of this we roast together,

:41:27.:41:30.

puree it, then we end up with this absolutely delicious sauce. You

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have a little taste of this on its own, and it's glorious. You'll see

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it's got a little bit of warmth in it but not tonnes. That's delicious.

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Shall we do a smudge? Let's do it. What we need to do is get a little

:41:46.:41:50.

bit of sauce on the spoon. Stand the spoon upright with the sauce on.

:41:50.:41:53.

I am not going to do that now. Tell me the whole thing. I'll show you

:41:53.:41:58.

the move without any sauce on. So you do sauce on, down like that

:41:58.:42:05.

then the back of the spoon, you'll swirl it back. Not bad. Not bad.

:42:05.:42:13.

But if you do it - when you put it on if you go in and then... Oh, you

:42:13.:42:16.

didn't say that! LAUGHTER

:42:16.:42:18.

And actually, mine is more attractive.

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LAUGHTER And then to serve, we have our

:42:25.:42:32.

delicious sweet-and-sour potatoes. There we sit, our lovely piece of

:42:32.:42:37.

veal on there, have a touch more sauce with it. It is so delicious.

:42:37.:42:42.

There we go - a bit of a messy plate that one. We're done. Good to

:42:42.:42:48.

go. Ladies, would you like to try some veal? That's an amazing smudge.

:42:48.:42:58.
:42:58.:42:58.

Do you like that smudge? Amazing. Have you had veal before, Katy?

:42:58.:43:02.

We should not be afraid of it. We should eat more of it because it's

:43:02.:43:07.

actually good for... What about the pudding? We're doing a delicious

:43:07.:43:14.

plum trifle. Do you like the veal? First time for everything. All our

:43:14.:43:19.

recipes are on our website. It is the same address if you want to e-

:43:19.:43:24.

mail questions for Katy or Deborah Meaden. Or Tweet us and send us

:43:24.:43:27.

your name. John Bishop is always welcome on our TV screens,

:43:27.:43:30.

especially doing the stand-up he does best. This week he's talking

:43:30.:43:40.
:43:40.:43:42.

People in their 40s, we were introduced to the world of the

:43:42.:43:44.

animal kingdom through David Attenborough. And the problem is if

:43:44.:43:48.

you have ever watched one of those wildlife programmes with your

:43:48.:43:53.

partner, you always end up getting compared to it. Like I have been

:43:53.:43:57.

married now for 18 years - on and off, and always -

:43:57.:43:59.

LAUGHTER Always what happens is you sit

:43:59.:44:02.

there, you're watching a a wildlife documentary, and all of a sudden

:44:02.:44:05.

she thinks that reflects our relationship. There was a

:44:05.:44:09.

documentary on about six months ago about these emperor penguins that

:44:09.:44:16.

go down to the South Pole, and they're there in the Antarctic,

:44:16.:44:20.

they're there in sub-zero temperatures, and the female

:44:20.:44:25.

penguin will lay an egg, and the male penguin then has to stand on

:44:25.:44:30.

the egg for three months - three months - on the egg, standing there

:44:31.:44:38.

in minus 50 degrees while the female penguin is out with her

:44:38.:44:39.

mates clubbing! LAUGHTER

:44:39.:44:44.

Or whatever female penguins get up to, and then come back three months

:44:44.:44:50.

later, at which point he's nearly dead and he goes to get something

:44:50.:44:54.

to eat. We're sitting there on the couch, she's going, "Three months.

:44:54.:44:59.

You wouldn't do that for me, would you?"

:44:59.:45:06.

"I babysat for you last week." "You wouldn't do that for me."

:45:06.:45:13.

"I am not a peng win! You lay an egg, I'll sit on it!"

:45:13.:45:18.

You can experience more of his scouse charm on BBC One and BBC One

:45:18.:45:28.
:45:28.:45:31.

HD. I am getting ready to pitch. Our next guest is from the Dragon's

:45:31.:45:41.
:45:41.:45:47.

Den. Welcome back to the show, Shall we start with two? They are

:45:47.:45:56.

both lady things. The first one women like having cosmetic problems,

:45:56.:46:02.

so what we do is we invent a skin disease maybe. Which doesn't exist

:46:02.:46:08.

but we put fictitious things in papers and journals and we invent

:46:08.:46:17.

the cure. The cure is a placebo but women love buying cosmetic pills,

:46:17.:46:24.

so we invent something that doesn't exist and we invent a cure which

:46:24.:46:29.

doesn't exist. Could you be arrested for that? Technically that

:46:29.:46:35.

is - illegal. That's the word. Did you see my face trying not to

:46:35.:46:43.

smile? That's not a good look. other one, ladies like things don't

:46:43.:46:50.

they, enhancements. They like... What are we doing here? They like

:46:50.:46:56.

fake tan, fake teeth, everything. Ladies do? Yes, I've seen nit

:46:56.:47:02.

magazines. All ladies like long fingers, I've heard, so we invent

:47:02.:47:07.

finger extensions that glue on, so all ladies can have long fingers.

:47:07.:47:13.

That came into the Den once, but for cats. False fingernails for

:47:13.:47:17.

cats. That came into the Den. I didn't think that was a very good

:47:17.:47:22.

idea either. So is that potentially the most ridiculous pitch you've

:47:22.:47:28.

heard or have there been worse? think that definitely ranks with

:47:28.:47:33.

false fingernails for cats. They are great ideas. I will do it with

:47:33.:47:42.

Duncan. You could well get Duncan to invest. But he's never invested

:47:42.:47:46.

a Pakistani! He's saving it up for fingernail extensions. How is the

:47:46.:47:56.
:47:56.:47:59.

show going, are you enjoying it? is the 9th series. We have a new

:48:00.:48:04.

drag gone. It is the first time in nine series we have had more than

:48:04.:48:10.

one woman. Is there a bit of rivalry or is it better, less of a

:48:10.:48:13.

boys' club? It is neither. We are all competitive. It is not about

:48:13.:48:18.

whether you are a man or a woman in dragon's defpblt we are all

:48:18.:48:27.

competitive. Having a new person, we all up our game She looks scary.

:48:27.:48:35.

She made her money through haul snadge Indeed. She has a -- she

:48:35.:48:42.

made her money through haulage? Indeed. She has a haulage business.

:48:42.:48:48.

You need people in the Den who are prepared to put her money where her

:48:48.:48:53.

mouth is. Hillary has got stuck in there. On seven series, how much

:48:53.:48:58.

have you invested in? 26 businesses and over �2 million. Which is

:48:58.:49:01.

interesting, because when you ask people, they think I never invest.

:49:02.:49:07.

I don't know how that works. team up a lot with other Dragons.

:49:07.:49:12.

Do those partnerships work well? Very well. I've done a lot of

:49:12.:49:19.

businesss with Theo. It worked well and we know how it works. He knows

:49:19.:49:26.

what he does and I know what I do. They all want your personal input.

:49:26.:49:31.

You've got 26 businesses of your own. There must be a time when you

:49:31.:49:37.

think, I can't do any more work. They are all in different phases.

:49:37.:49:45.

Some of them are baby business, and others... I have had two failures.

:49:45.:49:50.

They are all in different stages. And then I've got the really good

:49:50.:49:57.

businesses. Who has made the best investments out of the Dragons?

:49:57.:50:04.

Is there any dragon you wouldn't co-invest with? Peter maybe.

:50:04.:50:09.

there are different businesses for different reasons. One of my best

:50:10.:50:15.

investments, Facebook for foodies website, My Dish. That's one that

:50:15.:50:20.

Peter did not get. Sometimes you think, I wouldn't invest with you

:50:20.:50:25.

anyway, because I don't think you will add anything as a dragon. Not

:50:25.:50:30.

only am I choosing the right entrepreneur but the right dragon.

:50:30.:50:36.

Duncan is down with the kids. He invested in a band. No, that was

:50:36.:50:42.

Peter. Anything that you didn't invest in that you think you should

:50:42.:50:46.

have? I'm not a regret kind of person. I work hard to get that

:50:46.:50:49.

investment. If you don't get it on the terms that you are happy with,

:50:49.:50:56.

there is no point regretting. I suspect I might have missed Reggae

:50:56.:51:05.

Reggae Sauce. Je ne regrette rien. We had him on here and he must have

:51:05.:51:11.

said that a thousand times. We've got a funny clip hire. Peter Joans

:51:11.:51:17.

can rap. # Testing. We are going to do a bit

:51:17.:51:24.

of rap. I said a hip-hop # You don't stop the rocking

:51:24.:51:31.

# To the bang bang boogie... # How long are the pitches that you

:51:31.:51:36.

do? The longest one I've been involved with was three-and-a-half

:51:36.:51:41.

hours, so when people see us go from nought to furious in 30

:51:41.:51:45.

seconds flat, it could be three hours. And the shorths one I think

:51:45.:51:50.

has been 11 minutes, which is as long as it takes for them to do

:51:50.:51:55.

their pitch and us to say, "We're out." A lot of people have been

:51:55.:51:59.

asking, is it a good time at the moment to start up a business? Our

:51:59.:52:04.

country is in recession. Europe is collapsing financially. Is it a bad

:52:04.:52:09.

time to get involved in business? If you've got a good business

:52:09.:52:12.

proposition that's relevant now, you've got to think if it was

:52:12.:52:18.

relevant last year it may not be relevant now. But it could be a

:52:18.:52:24.

good time for business, because space clears. Businesses that

:52:24.:52:28.

survive because people are spending money, people are very careful how

:52:28.:52:34.

they spend their money in recession. It is hard to get a loan from a

:52:34.:52:42.

bank, isn't it? It is. But there are ache el investors that you can

:52:42.:52:47.

go to. If you have something edgy or risky, they are your best bet.

:52:47.:52:51.

With your businesses, are you worried about what's going on?

:52:51.:52:54.

Different businesses, different things. I would like to think we

:52:54.:53:01.

spotted, you know this, hasn't just hands. I sold my main business,

:53:01.:53:07.

West Star Holidays in 2007, just before the collapse. Because you

:53:07.:53:12.

knew it was going to collapse? thought, now is my moment. I had to

:53:12.:53:18.

do it when the market said it was ready. That's part of my reason for

:53:18.:53:21.

exiting. Businesses have to look forward and think, how is this

:53:21.:53:25.

going to affect my business? It might be a positive business. If

:53:25.:53:29.

you are offering a good service and people trust you, you will do well.

:53:29.:53:32.

That's what people are looking for. Very good advice, Deborah. Thank

:53:32.:53:40.

you for that. Time has run away and for that reason, I'm out of this

:53:40.:53:44.

interview. Deborah is staying around to invest in a dish with

:53:44.:53:50.

Simon. E-mail or tweet if you have any questions or weird pictures.

:53:50.:53:58.

Nothing as weird as Tim's please. There's lots more to encourages

:53:58.:54:04.

including Wayne's cocktails, Lucy's gadgets, and all of this.

:54:04.:54:10.

BBC is diving with the ocean giants. It's like jumping into six lanes of

:54:10.:54:17.

traffic... Simon is cooking crispy corn

:54:17.:54:23.

fritters. And JK Rowling asks, who do you think you are? He has risen

:54:23.:54:31.

in his profession. Mercury Prize nominee Katy B has

:54:31.:54:34.

Mercury Prize nominee Katy B has joined me and Simon to cook a

:54:34.:54:44.

pudding. I go to the mercury often. There is so much disappointment in

:54:44.:54:52.

the room. I hate to say that. It is the one thing where no-one really

:54:52.:54:57.

knows. It is an independent judging panel. They sit and bang through

:54:57.:55:03.

the albums and they only decide on the night, don't they? Really?

:55:03.:55:12.

is often a surprise, the Mercury. can't remember who won last year. I

:55:12.:55:22.

can't remember. Anyone know? And apparently when you win, your

:55:22.:55:27.

record sales go whoosh. Apparently. Did you cook? I can boil an egg,

:55:27.:55:34.

fry an egg. I can't poach an egg. You can't poach an egg! We'll teach

:55:34.:55:41.

you that before you leave today. it is all eggs, is it? Steamed

:55:41.:55:49.

vegetables. If you don't cook a lot, what do you eat? Eggs? Mashed

:55:49.:55:56.

potato. I like chicken. I like spicy chicken. Have you got your

:55:56.:56:02.

own flat? No. I still live with my parents. So your mum cooks all the

:56:02.:56:07.

food. She cooks really good food. Your mum is sitting at home going,

:56:07.:56:13.

"Come on!" I'm away a lot and my schedule is really busy, so she has

:56:13.:56:22.

learned not to cook for me any more. There were quite a few arguments.

:56:22.:56:28.

She eats really healthy. Have you got a sweet tooth. Definitely.

:56:28.:56:34.

We are going to make a plum and ginger trifle. Shop-bought ginger

:56:34.:56:43.

cake, apricot jam and rum. Plums, stewed. The custard, milk with

:56:43.:56:49.

flour, grated ginger, squeezed all the juice out, sugar and eggs.

:56:49.:56:58.

feels more like an autumn dish. British plum season is in July. We

:56:58.:57:03.

always associate it with winter- time. Do you know what I like at

:57:03.:57:11.

this time of year? A green gauge. Do you? Yes, very good. Anyway...

:57:11.:57:18.

What's a green gauge? A green plum. Sweet but really nice. Small season

:57:18.:57:24.

but really nice. Are they better than normal plums? You can't do

:57:24.:57:34.
:57:34.:57:35.

better. Apples are the Kings of fruit, in my mind. So... For the

:57:35.:57:43.

custard we add the milk. Whisk that in. At school there were lumps in

:57:43.:57:47.

the custard. We are making sure we don't get any. Whisk until it

:57:47.:57:53.

becomes a smooth paste. What did you eat at the Brit stkphool There

:57:53.:58:00.

was a canteen, but you -- what did you eat at the BRIT School? There

:58:00.:58:05.

was a canteen, but everyone went out. Some people went to the park.

:58:05.:58:12.

They were the naughty kids. Really? And there was a chip shop. You

:58:12.:58:18.

could get a chip roll. Or there was a canteen. They did alright food.

:58:18.:58:26.

Actually there was a kiosk and they did panini. What we need to do is

:58:26.:58:32.

get our catering up to the BRIT School, a little van outside.

:58:32.:58:40.

'n' roll food. They are arty types. We'll stick their sandwiches into a

:58:40.:58:47.

ciabatta and charge them an arm and a leg. We've whisked the ginger and

:58:47.:58:51.

the milk and the eggs. We are stirring so it doesn't catch or

:58:51.:58:56.

burn. After five minutes or so it becomes thick. We let it go cold

:58:56.:59:03.

and we end up with ginger custard. In here we've got loads of whipped

:59:03.:59:10.

cream. Katy, all of the cream out of there and into there, mix

:59:10.:59:14.

together. I read in the paper that food-related words that haven't

:59:14.:59:23.

made Steve Wright the Oxford English dictionary because of not

:59:23.:59:29.

enough use, spatulate is one. I want that to be a word that gets in.

:59:29.:59:34.

You could stick that in one of your songs. What does it rhyme with?

:59:35.:59:44.
:59:45.:59:52.

Hate. I rate. Regulate. Regulate, yeah. That's

:59:52.:00:00.

your challenge for next time you come on, Katy, what song has the

:00:00.:00:04.

word "spatulate" in. You're looking massively impressed by that. OK. So

:00:04.:00:11.

all of that mixes together. What you end up now is that beautiful

:00:11.:00:15.

creamy custard. This is almost like the cream you get in the middle of

:00:15.:00:20.

a custard slice. You actually look like you're quite enjoying that.

:00:20.:00:24.

It's very therapeutic. With all of your pop education, didn't they say

:00:24.:00:29.

to you, "One day you'll end up on a cooking show making trifle?" Might

:00:29.:00:36.

be able to learn a few things. is beautiful. You can taste that in

:00:36.:00:41.

its own right. I love ginger. Yeah, that's gorgeous, yeah. Now this is

:00:41.:00:47.

all about assembling it. You can either do these as individual ones,

:00:47.:00:53.

but it's far nicer to do bigger ones. This is where we need

:00:53.:01:00.

Generation Game music. We break it up and pop it into the bowl.

:01:00.:01:04.

Trifling is another word we can add a definition to - getting families

:01:04.:01:14.
:01:14.:01:17.

anymore, do they, Simon? No. All that goes in - chuck it in. This is

:01:17.:01:21.

the joy of trifling. We can be random with it. All of that goes in,

:01:21.:01:27.

then we add a good glug of rum on to there, then our lovely stewed

:01:27.:01:31.

plums, so what we do with our plums is pop them around the edge like

:01:31.:01:38.

that. We can do it with our fingers, so cut side up - this is not what

:01:38.:01:41.

you were imagining you were going to do today. Dig in. All of that

:01:41.:01:45.

goes around the edge like that. Just push them in. They go around

:01:45.:01:49.

the sides so it looks pretty. This is all about presentation. The

:01:49.:01:54.

flavour, you can slap it all in so it tastes delicious, but it would

:01:54.:02:00.

not look near as pretty as this is. This lovely plum-ginger juice we've

:02:00.:02:05.

got all gets poured in. We have no jelly, but traditional triefls

:02:05.:02:12.

don't have jelly in them. It's a modern invention. In goes apricot

:02:12.:02:17.

jam for flavour. Traditional trifles don't have jelly. They have

:02:17.:02:25.

jam? Yeah. Then spoon all of the custard into there.

:02:25.:02:28.

Lovely. This is all about building these things up. Then you need time

:02:28.:02:34.

for it to set, OK? So once all that goes in - you can slap it all in,

:02:34.:02:42.

Katy. All right. And then it will find its own level. Lovely. And

:02:42.:02:47.

then finally, we... Is that all right? Beautiful. That'll do. Then

:02:47.:02:56.

we add a big layer of cream once it's found its height, on the top

:02:56.:03:03.

and pop that in the fridge. Calorific. This delightful fella.

:03:03.:03:10.

Ooh! It sets really hard. We add a little bit of cinnamon which works

:03:10.:03:13.

beautifully with plums, then crystallised ginger, which works

:03:14.:03:17.

beautifully with the ginger in the custard. Finally, you can't have

:03:17.:03:21.

trifle without hundreds and thousands - like that. OK. So who

:03:21.:03:25.

would like to be mother? Tim, would you like to serve or would you like

:03:25.:03:31.

me to serve? No thank you. I want to shove my face in it, don't you?

:03:31.:03:40.

Wow! Less fruit, more cream, please! Katy, you first, as you

:03:40.:03:45.

made it. While you're doing that coming up, Wayne is going all

:03:45.:03:50.

savoury in cocktails, plus Deborah will be cooking the final dish.

:03:50.:03:54.

What is the final dish? Courgette and sweet corn it fromers. OK. A

:03:54.:03:58.

trip back in time now and a second chance for you to name the year

:03:58.:04:08.
:04:08.:04:10.

that all of this happened. How is it? Mmm. Lovely. Deja View.

:04:10.:04:20.
:04:20.:04:26.

# Huh, huh, huh, huh, huh belts came into effect just a month

:04:26.:04:31.

ago, and all the signs are that it's brought a dramatic reduction

:04:31.:04:37.

in deaths and serious injuries. BBC's Breakfasttime, Europe's first

:04:37.:04:40.

regular breakfast television service, received more than 1,500

:04:40.:04:43.

calls of congratulations from viewers within an hour of going on

:04:43.:04:47.

the air for the first time this morning. The compact disk player is

:04:47.:04:52.

in shops this morning. It works with a laserby. It will cost at

:04:52.:04:56.

least �450, but the experts reckon it's a sound investment.

:04:56.:05:06.
:05:06.:05:06.

# I bought a ticket to the world # But now I've come back again #

:05:06.:05:12.

What's wrong? The dog ran away. away? Yeah. He said he had to go

:05:12.:05:21.

away and for me to be a good girl. He gave me this.

:05:21.:05:31.
:05:31.:05:38.

one in this year, but how true is our guesswork? Debra, what year do

:05:38.:05:45.

you think that was, do you know? 1984. I went 5. What do you think?

:05:45.:05:53.

Definitely early '80s. '85? I went '85. For the first time I am 100%

:05:53.:05:58.

confident on this one. Don't say it. It was number one on a certain

:05:58.:06:08.
:06:08.:06:08.

birthday year. Whisper it to me. The 13th. The 13th he said - the

:06:08.:06:17.

birthday - that's not a secret. you can work out the maths, I am 43.

:06:17.:06:25.

It was number one. I heard it at a disco. We have a classic twist on

:06:25.:06:30.

the bloody mary. This one is called Canary Mary. The name comes from a

:06:30.:06:35.

bar in Shoreditch called the Breakfast Club. We have some of our

:06:35.:06:39.

usual suspects like pepper and sauces - a bit of white pepper

:06:39.:06:44.

first is coming in... How did this become a hangover cure is what I

:06:44.:06:50.

want to know? Sea salt. There is really no such thing as a true

:06:50.:06:55.

hangover cure. By drinking more! Hair of the dog, they say. A little

:06:55.:07:01.

bit of grated ginger goes in there, then we're going to have a good

:07:01.:07:11.

obligatory double measure of vodka going in, and then we've got our

:07:11.:07:17.

yellow tomato juice in from the Isle of Wight. The pressed tomatoes

:07:17.:07:23.

add a little bit of sweetness. like it. It's good. Are you partial

:07:24.:07:29.

to a drink, Deborah? Orange juice, yes, obviously. That looks like

:07:29.:07:36.

orange juice. No, it's tomato. Instead of red pepper, we have

:07:36.:07:41.

jalapeno sauce. It's like a meal. One little dash of Worcester sauce.

:07:41.:07:45.

What's your favourite tipple, then? What do you like? Probably - it

:07:45.:07:51.

depends what season it is. I do like a nice cider Shandy in the

:07:51.:07:57.

summer. Ooh. That sounds nice. lovely hot summer day in Somerset.

:07:57.:08:02.

Crieder with lemonade. Yes, sorry. You're looking - that's not right.

:08:02.:08:11.

He looks horrified. He always looks horrified. Don't worry. Sweet?

:08:11.:08:18.

not proper bitter jumppy... flat cider. With cucumber, like a

:08:18.:08:22.

Pimm's. I mean, how much do you want? We'll make some money out of

:08:22.:08:26.

that. I'll tell you what, we'll just stick cider in ice and resell

:08:26.:08:34.

it. Someone's done that. That was a great business thing. Do you know,

:08:34.:08:37.

that absolutely regenerated... went mad, didn't it? Make it look

:08:37.:08:44.

orange. That's all right, yeah. We've actually got some actual

:08:44.:08:49.

pictures. I'll put this one to you whilst you're trying that. Good

:08:49.:08:53.

manners... You have a sip of that. You might need it after the pitch

:08:53.:08:59.

as well, Deborah. That's lovely. you like that? This is from Barbara,

:08:59.:09:03.

"A phonetic dictionary, as you can't find a word in a dictionary

:09:03.:09:09.

if you can't spell it" - is that a good idea? How big would it have to

:09:09.:09:13.

be, this dictionary, because presumably however you pronounce

:09:13.:09:18.

the word, you could have it many different ways. That's delicious.

:09:18.:09:26.

What's in there that's different? Oh, it's the Hal peenio - that is

:09:26.:09:33.

absolutely... You notice I just rolled it without ice, mixed the

:09:33.:09:36.

ingredients. When you get watery tomato juice, it gets thin. It

:09:36.:09:44.

kills it, so rolling it, you keep that tixure. See, Wayne just said

:09:44.:09:54.
:09:54.:09:54.

"watered down" - you would spell that "daan". I have a little bit of

:09:54.:09:59.

fresh lemon juice, fresh pressed celery. Celery's juice is really

:09:59.:10:03.

good in drinks especially if you're going to complement it with drinks

:10:03.:10:08.

made from plants. We have agave syrup, which has a nice character,

:10:08.:10:15.

a shot and a half of silver tequila, 100% agave. You're selling this as

:10:15.:10:21.

a real natural drink. I like it. Really healthy! You can have one of

:10:21.:10:26.

these - two of these! I am in. about healthy beer, you know?

:10:26.:10:33.

going to polish it with these two! Apple lickure in there. Celery and

:10:33.:10:40.

apple is a classic combination. It works really well with the lemon

:10:40.:10:46.

and techealla, agave, to give it a bit of sweetness. I quite like,

:10:46.:10:53.

given the size of my heels this morning - "High-heeled shoes you

:10:53.:10:56.

can unscrew." That's a good idea, so you can go to work in your...

:10:56.:11:02.

These would turn into flats, then. Or you go out on a night out when

:11:02.:11:09.

you have had a few too many drinks you could waddle off. That sounds

:11:09.:11:14.

like a good idea but if you took the heel office that, they wouldn't

:11:14.:11:24.
:11:24.:11:27.

be flat. Have you noticed all ideas are for women because they're the

:11:27.:11:30.

ones that... They're all your ideas, for women. I am a bit worried about

:11:30.:11:38.

you, Tim. Cosmetic ideas. False fingernails for cats were put

:11:38.:11:48.

forward by a man. Have a try of this. That's absolutely gorgeous.

:11:48.:11:56.

You have celery, apple... Thanks. If you want to mix either of his

:11:56.:12:00.

savoury cocktails go, to our website to find them. 70% of the

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earth is covered with 376 million trillion gallons of water - feel

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like Professor Cox now. Where better to film a new landmark

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series? There you go - voiced by Stephen Fry, this is the courting

:12:14.:12:18.

chase of the humped-back whales. It's Ocean Giants.

:12:18.:12:24.

This hot pursuit can last all day and cover miles of ocean. To stand

:12:24.:12:34.
:12:34.:12:43.

a chance of catching the action, escalates to explosive shows of

:12:44.:12:47.

strength. Look at that. He's right in contact with him. You can see

:12:47.:12:53.

his peck fin. The other animal is colliding into him. Look at him

:12:53.:12:58.

pushing and shoving. See that flouk just flick over like this, and he's

:12:58.:13:05.

diving down, charging at somebody, pushing somebody away. For the dive

:13:05.:13:15.
:13:15.:13:49.

team, it's like jumping into six by at 20mph. A male upends into the

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:13:59.:14:17.

crucifix block, a tactic to stop a becomes more dangerous for the

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:14:27.:14:30.

Ocean Giants tonight at 9.00pm on BBC One and BBC One HD. It's gadget

:14:30.:14:36.

day. Lucy Hedges is here and Katy B is here to trial out the first

:14:36.:14:41.

gadget. What is it? The Paper Jamz promicrophone. It's basically

:14:41.:14:45.

designed to make everyone sound like a professional singer? Even

:14:45.:14:53.

me? Not a chance. This amp we have has a load of effects to multiply

:14:53.:14:58.

your voice to make it sing like you have year singers behind you. You

:14:58.:15:03.

can effectively sing back at yourself in imperfect harmony. Katy

:15:03.:15:08.

has so kindly agreed to do a little demo. Hello, hello. I am going to

:15:08.:15:18.
:15:18.:15:23.

That's really weird. I don't think that's enhancing your voice. Do

:15:23.:15:32.

chorus. This is like having a backing singer or choir behind you.

:15:32.:15:40.

# I can't go to bed with the lights on. #

:15:40.:15:45.

That works. Do you remember the big, pink microphones. I vaguely know

:15:45.:15:52.

what you are talking about and it echoed. Yeah! Like an ice cream

:15:52.:15:58.

cone. Yeah! No idea. And you can put songs in there? It comes with

:15:58.:16:05.

two tracks pre-loaded. We've got our song and you could sing over

:16:05.:16:10.

that. Exactly. And you can go to iTunes and

:16:10.:16:14.

download your tracks, three at a time. This is �35. What do you

:16:14.:16:21.

think of that? It is great. I would have loved that as a kid. What's

:16:21.:16:26.

have loved that as a kid. What's next? This is the the BlackBerry

:16:27.:16:32.

Bold 90906789 it's the first phone to sport the new OS7 operating

:16:32.:16:39.

system. Is it quicker? Night now backs a 1.2 gigahertz processor. It

:16:39.:16:45.

has liquid graphics display. Everything swipes and pans and

:16:45.:16:51.

zooms in a lot easier than before. If we go on-line, I can zoom in

:16:51.:17:01.
:17:01.:17:01.

really easily. It is fluid, smooth. A lot slicker than before. It has

:17:01.:17:07.

720 video. It allows you to balance your business and personal life

:17:07.:17:13.

from one account, called BlackBerry Balance. You can do that with

:17:13.:17:19.

corporate work and not affect your personal side. It is a great way to

:17:19.:17:23.

eradicate the need to have two phones. That's fantastic. Another

:17:23.:17:30.

great thing about on the back, this is a near-field communication panel,

:17:30.:17:35.

the same technology you get with Oyster Cards, so in theory you can

:17:35.:17:40.

use the phone to pay for your crisps or bus pass. It is not in

:17:40.:17:45.

the UK yet, but it is coming. The fact that the BlackBerry has it is

:17:45.:17:52.

exciting: at the moment it is on Vodafone for three on �41 a month

:17:53.:17:58.

contract. It is coming in December in all other shops.

:17:58.:18:07.

This is really cool. This is the App Blaster. It's a plastic gun

:18:07.:18:12.

designed to enhance your iPhone gaming experience. Katy, put your

:18:12.:18:19.

fingers on both triggers. What these two conductive pads do, they

:18:19.:18:25.

are connected to the Triggers. One will pertain to bullets and the

:18:25.:18:34.

other to missiles. Katy looks a little crazy. She is shooting

:18:34.:18:38.

aliens which you couldn't see at home. This is footage from earlier

:18:38.:18:44.

in the office. The idea is you are in the office. The idea is you are

:18:44.:18:47.

playing in real life? That's the beauty about augmented reality. It

:18:47.:18:52.

is about super-imposing graphics and images into real-life

:18:52.:18:56.

situations. It is pretty sawsome isn't it? It is good that you can

:18:56.:19:06.

shoot real people as well. How much is that? That's �20. And the app is

:19:06.:19:11.

free of charge. Thank you to Katy and Lucy. If you want more

:19:11.:19:15.

information, go to our website - bbc.co.uk/somethingfortheweekend.

:19:15.:19:21.

Now, she's the world's best-selling author but knows little about her

:19:21.:19:26.

Gallic ancestry. JK Rowling asks, who do you think you are? I feel

:19:26.:19:30.

this weird pull towards Louis. He left France to go to London, a

:19:30.:19:35.

massive city that's also a foreign city, so he is an immigrant. That's

:19:35.:19:40.

very gutsy. And then I found the letters so moving. This very young

:19:40.:19:45.

man writing to his English girlfriend. Marion has told me he

:19:45.:19:55.
:19:55.:19:58.

was a waiter who worked at the Savoy, so I'm going to London. Jo's

:19:58.:20:01.

great grandfather Louis arrived in London in the 1890s and worked in

:20:01.:20:08.

the City as a waiter, before and after the First World War. Louis

:20:08.:20:17.

was head wine waiter. And he got an award for it, a French award,.

:20:17.:20:23.

are joking. Not at all. It's a prestigious distinction. This was

:20:23.:20:31.

given to him in 1922. And here is his title in French. Fair play to

:20:31.:20:37.

him. For a working class Frenchman who has come to London, he's risen

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in his profession. Absolutely. And we are extremely lucky that the

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Savoy keep an archive of their former employees. This is Louis's

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card. The card contains his previous employment history.

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Ed you can see the creator of Harry Potter in Who Do You Think You Are

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on Wednesday at 9 on BBC One and BBC One HD would you ever delve

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into your family history? I'm not sure I would like what you found.

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I've got this image I've made up. I might stick with that. I think you

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have loads of skeletons in your cupboard. The more I get to know

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you... I'm cultivatingage edgy persona. Maybe. You can cook?

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only can't I cook, I don't. For 25 years I've managed to resist

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cooking and here I am, getting up early on a Sunday morning. The body

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language when Deborah walked in, and I know she doesn't cook. We are

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making courgette fritters. Celery salt, horseradish, Worcestershire

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sauce, cherry tomatoes. Flour, milk, spring onions, carrot, sweetcorn

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out of a tin, sugar, chilli point of order and eggs. Deborah Meaden,

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the first job for you. The milk the first job for you. The milk

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goes in there. The eggs go into there. I would hate my husband to

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get the impression I could crack an egg. We've had so many tweets from

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viewers with genius ideas. One of them is from Scott Richards. Egg

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yolk sauce in a bottle, because everyone loves an egg yolk on their

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chips? Do they? That was good timing. Half of the thing is in

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getting an investor on board is getting them whener in the mood.

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You have to work, Deborah Meaden. Whisk that and add to the flour.

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Can I use a fork? It is fine. It is delightful. Bless you, Deborah.

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There is always the worry that one week we will fall off air. This

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might be the week, Simon. Pour that into the floufrplt Legal pour?

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Literally pour. And then give it a whisk. Simon, have you got any

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ideas? Chefs always have grand ideas. I have mentioned on the show

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before, one of the things that frustrates me, when you have a food

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:23:45.:23:47.

processor... When you use a food processor. When you start them up

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and get them to move, it never quite does it. I think there's a

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market for a food processor that works on a track or a spiral. When

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it goes in you can press spatulate mode or whatever you might call it.

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Spatulate is not actually a word. I'm not understanding any of the

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words, so don't pick up on spatulate! Here is your processor.

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You have all the stuff in from and when you turn it on, it goes, glug,

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glug, so I think there should be something that has rails, some kind

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of motion that helps it move. Deborah? I think it sounds like a

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good idea. Only because I'm listening to an expert. You should

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always know who the expert is in a room. Simon knows what he is

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talking about. Well done. We've got another tweet here, from Kate.

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Pyjama bottoms from when women are asleep which exfoliate the hairs

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while you sleep. No more shaving. That is such... Can you imagine

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trying to sleep with sandpaper strapped to your legs? LAUGHTER

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I've done worse, Deborah. 350-50 -- 50-50 flavoured toothpaste, bacon

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and eggs one end and mint at night? Not quite. I think I read that

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somebody called you up and asked to borrow money from you or something?

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I get quite a lot of that. Do you? One of them was rather charming. It

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said, "I've got no business investment, can you just give me

:25:39.:25:43.

some money?" You do admire the cheek really. Did he get the money?

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No. Do people stop new the street saying, "Deb remarks I've got a

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great idea ?" Does it get annoying? I don't mind. I like that people

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have got good ideas. That doesn't bother me. That's a great reason to

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stop me and talk to me on the streets. Have I ever invested in

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anybody who has stopped me on the street? Not so much. Say for

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example my idea, it is fine, but to get that to the marketplace, it is

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masses of money, investment and chance. I can't tell you the amount

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of times I say there's a thousand miles between an idea which we all

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have, thousands every day, on our sofas, and a business proposition.

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I'm looking for business proposition. We can all come up

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with great ideas but you've got to have a reason why you would do it.

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You've got to enter the market, you have specialist knowledge, you've

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got to give me something to make it a business prop sifplgts So we

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:26:58.:26:58.

mixed if flour, -- proposition. So we mixed the flour, sweetcorn.

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These are our fritters. Our Bloody Mary tomatoes, in a hot panto

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seefrplt we add celery, sell -- in a pot pan to sear: we had celery,

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celery salt, horseradish and tomato juice. Shake. Pop in the oven for

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10-15 minutes until they are soft and we end up with glorious Bloody

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Mary tomatoes. Wow! We put a bit of rocket on the plate. You can use

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the cannery Mary that Wayne used in the came way. These cherry tomatoes

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with vodka, it is a simple pasta sauce. That would be glorious.

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is quite a drunken meal, vod characters tomatoes and a Balady

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Mary to wash it down with -- Bloody Mary to wash it down with. We are

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running out of time. We are done. Amanda, go for it. I can't wait for

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Deja View, the year. Over to Tim Deja View, the year. Over to Tim

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and Katy. The news headlines about the seat belt law, breakfast TV and

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the CD being launched. It was 1983. I was a couple of years out. I was

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closest. It was Wayne's birth day. Only a few more minutes. Alex

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Jackson says to you Deborah, do you have any good tips on successful

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pitching and presentation. If you were going to come into the den?

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honest. That's the single biggest thing. Be honest and be yourself.

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Don't try to go into this slick sales pitch and be somebody else.

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Be yourself and tell it as it is. If you have a good business

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proposition, it will come through. What we do is we pretend to be able

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to read people's futures through the stars or something, and charge

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them for finding out, maybe on a phone line. We just say nice things

:29:18.:29:23.

like, "You are going to meet a handsome man." It's aimed at women.

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LAUGHTER Women like that sort of stuff. They do. And make-up they

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like. You just study women all day long. I like kittens as well. I've

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got a handbag full of kittens. That's it. We are out of time.

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