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The clocks are back and so are we. We are live on Sunday, 30th October.

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Joining us today is a man who brings a sense of humour to being a

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entrepreneur, millionaire and Dragon, Peter Jones.

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And bringing some rock, are the Generation Terrorists, Nicky Wire

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and James Dean Bradfield from the Manic Street Preachers. The gadgets

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will be next. And of course a look at next week's telly. This is

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Something For The Weekend. Good morning. Welcome to Something

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For The Weekend. The last one for October. If you follow Peter Jones,

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he had a competition on Twitter he got them to decide whether he would

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be wearing blue, option two, brown trousers, stripy socks. He went for

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came on the show wearing sneakers - trainers. This is the tallest show.

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Nicky and Peter Jones. How tall are you? Six seven. How tall is Nicky

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Wire? Six 'four. I don't know. We will be back in an -- the clock

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wound back an hour. We decided to go out last night and have some

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cocktails because we had an extra hour. What are you drinking? Whisky

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sour. The barman put it in, was it copper? A copper vessel. Was it a

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good night? Boys on the town! Stroke morning! What have we had,

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an hour? Not even that. Did you leave the bar and come

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straight here? That's it. Hard core! That's what we did. Are you

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well? You are off last week? you're making me cough. I might

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cough slightly through the show, so I do apologise. I couldn't miss

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another week. Yesterday Jimmy Saville died. There he is.

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Obviously one of the big stars of our country. Did you ever write to

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Jimmy? No. I didn't. Louise, you didn't? I didn't either. I didn't

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but I always, Jamie told me he wrote to him to say could he train

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with the England team? He ended up getting his dream come true? A few

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years on! He wrote to Terry Venables! Terry, can I have a run

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out with you and the boys? What are you involved in? Because we have

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gained an hour today, there is a campaign, basically the aim is to

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encourage you to send an hour of your time to teach somebody who has

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no concept of the internet or doesn't know how to use it to get

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online and see the joys it holds for you. So, if you dominate

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somebody you would use. I would use my dad, who does not use the

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internet, to show them how to communicate with their grand kids,

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do the shopping online. It is a great campaign. Teach them how to

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use Twitter and can take over your life. Sit online and take over your

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life! It is good to see your relatives abroad. We take it for

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granted. It is a campaign aimed at people who don't have any concept

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of that magical world. My mum struggles just with a mobile phone,

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so the thought of my grandparents on a computer, they will struggle.

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My daughter taught my mum and dad how to text. Now they text like a

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14 year old girl. They use all the abbreviations.

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Nick and Nicky from the manic street preachers are here to talk

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about being in the band. The new album and the gig where they will

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play their complete back catalogue of 38 singles.

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I was talking to James. And they are doing a set. It will take them

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three-and-a-half hours, something like that. They'll have to have a

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break between. People will get their money's worth when they go in

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and see everything. I listened to it. Obviously it goes on forever,

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it is amazing to see the body of work they've done. What a great

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band! Peter Jones has made a new series exploring how the most

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successful British millionaires have made their money. He will

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hopefully share with us what he found out. Is he your favourite

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Dragon? Yeah. Is he yours? I like him, Theo, Deborah. Who's the new

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one - I like her as well. When we.... That's good! She wears

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the best jackets. When we pitch to get funding for our Olympic

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vehicle.... Who would you go for? I've had a word with Mr Jones

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already. I am into my finger extensions that I pitched to

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Deborah or puffy skin, I might invent a disease and invent a cure

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that does not exist. I was off this day. Do you remember when Deborah

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came on. I couldn't have taken that seriously. Invent a disease that

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women want. They like having things. Puffi deprbgs ermis. -- -

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Puffidermis. If I say to you, you have puffidermis, you will say,

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"Give it to me." This is how we make money. We have a normal

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chocolate bowl, all about how good it is for you and that would be it.

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Just chocolate? Ordinary chocolate. We wrap each individual square, so

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you actually allocate that as part of your calorie-controlled diet. It

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helps with "Puffidermis." I Have I made that up?

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It is better stp you have -- if you have!

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Any questions for the Manics or requests to Peter Jones, via the

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website or Tweet us so we can read I heard you cooked some fantastic

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food last week. Was it the best? Is this week quoing -- going to be as

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good? I thought I would not bother this week now you are back. We

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start off with salmon tikka wraps. It is a nice way to serve them.

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Tikka is dead easy to do, salmon works well with it. Then it is game

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season. Pheasant season starts, so we are doing a roast pheasant with

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celeriac and bacon. That says autumn. Desert, now everyone this

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afternoon will carve pumpkins to put in their window tomorrow. What

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do you do with the middle of the pumpkin? We make a pumpkin and

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coconut loaf. That is a great idea. We are doing savoury tarts. No

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reason they cannot be savoury. That is what we're doing.

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Head to our website to find all those recipes. This is what else

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you can look forward to on today's show.

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Grayson Perry is on his bike. One, two, three, push.

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We have Him And Her. Dean, the new guy makes you down a

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pint of wine! There's no stone unturned in Frozen

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Planet. Without a good-looking nest, a male will be unable to attract a

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in bed. He was not in bed an extra hour, he was out partying. I hope

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the cocktails will be good! I'm still going. I had a nice hall

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low wen drink. And this one where you get this lovely mist of vapours.

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He knows all the cocktail men. We could only dance on the tables, he

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was sliding down the bar, going like this.

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I liked the waist coat he was wearing. He got away with his

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sparkly shorts. What are we cooking? Salmon tikka.

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It is a standard marinade, we have some cayenne, garam masala. Some

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flour, egg, yogurt, cheese, which is unusual, but it softens the

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flavour. Ginger, garlic and lime. Salad bits we will serve.

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First things first. For the marinade, Lou, if you would like to

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put the yogurt, put the egg in, stick in all the spices, stick in

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the flour. Tim, you can great the ginger and the garlic. Then you can

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zest the lime and squeeze the juice. Is this all going in together?

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Everything in there. What was wrong with you, did you have bronchitis?

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Yes. Really poorly. I always get bad coughs.

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Put it there. No. Isn't that where you just

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grated? So are you two tick or tweeting

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this week? I am tomorrow. Neighbours, we'll be around!

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I don't know if I am old and miserable...: It is good. I love it.

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Around my way it goes mad. We all get dressed up. Go out.

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is better than fireworks now. The kids love it. They are dead

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excited. I know it is all American, I don't think it matters. I think I

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am miserable. We have American families where we live. They go for

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it. They invite you into their front door and do the whole of

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their house. It is a massive holiday for them.

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They go for it. The kids love it. Up my street they have started

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decorating. They have to be grated? The cheese has to be grated as well.

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What was that? How? I've got stuff in it. Wash it. I can't wash it up.

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Excuse me - can I just say, that's Tim's idea of grated. What is that?

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I didn't put that in there, did I? It's like a wedge!

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It's been a long night. We've not had any sleep.

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So you great all the ginger. It's - - you great all the ginger grate

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all the ginger. We need another greating machine.

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This one is not -- grating machine. This one is not good.

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Everyone was happy in rehearsal. Look it's happening. The cheese is

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not something you would associate with it.

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Give that a stir around. What cheese is this? Cheddar. Just

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a bit of cheap Cheddar. It doesn't need to be anything more than that.

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It softens off some of the acidity in the spices.

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More often than not you get it when you have a chicken tikka. It tends

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to work well with the chicken, but also with the salmon. Stick the two

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pieces of salmon in there. Move it around with your hands so you get

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in as much of the marinade in as you can. Why are you laughing at

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No we go. Do it with the spoon then. What you do is let this marinade

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for as long as you can. The more the flavours will develop. Two

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hours is a minimum, I would say. you want me to get them out.

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hours for a minimum. Cover it and put it in the fridge. What we end

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up with is we have this lovely marinade. What happens of course is

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a little acidity in there. That begins to cook the fish as well.

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are not cooking it? We do. Tim, fish out the two bits of fish. Give

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it a shake to get rid of the excess from there. Pop them on the tray.

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You want marinade, but not too much of it.

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We have plenty, so you can pack it full. You can put it in a plastic

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bag rather than a bowl. Works well. Smells nice. So you have the fish

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which is cooked through with this acidity. Then we grill them for

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about six to eight minutes. Smells to be. Whatever kind of salad

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things you want. If you wanted to serve it with, I don't know rocket

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or whatever, that's fine. Equally you don't have to do them in wraps.

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We're doing this as a serving suggestion. When they come out,

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this is what you end with, these beautiful, beautiful salmon fillets.

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You can serve this with a bit of rice would be delicious. That would

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be lovely! You get this lovely flavour. This is butter with lemon

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juice in. It gives some more delicious extreminess to it.

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dropping the cucumber. We're all over the place today, aren't we?

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know. Chop a bit of lettuce. We're going to stick them in a wrap. We

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have our tortillas. Shall we bring this over? Stick them on my board.

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Thank you. Lovely. I'm going to throw them on there. We've got our

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wrap. Can you do whatever you want. Wrap them and enclose them, let's

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do a bit of that. That's nice the tortilla stuff, because it's quite

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good, easy, quick and easy. Dead easy. It changes something that's

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quite ordinary like a piece of salmon into something delicious.

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you have kids that won't eat fish, it's a nice disguise. Do you want

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to try that, it's very hot. I find if my children say they don't want

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to eat anything, I leave it there and they either eat it or go hungry.

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You so don't. It seems to work. you believe him? No. They eat

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everything now. That was their choice, eat that or nothing. I'm

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not made of money, Simon. I think it's the best way. It's what

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happened when we were kids. Absolutely. Then we wrap up our

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tortillas like that. That's delicious. It really is good.

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this down the middle like that. Have a bit of that, Tim. Lovely bit

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of tortillas, then lovely jalapenos, fresh mint, which works beautifully

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well. How are we tasting this? going to pick it up. Bit of mango

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chutney. A little bit of sour cream or yoghurt. Go for it. A bit of the

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fish on there, if you want a bit of fish. It works with salmon,

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monkfish and cod as well. Cod ticka is so nice. It's nice isn't it.

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Because the salmon is quite fatty, somehow that adds to that delicious

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flavour. I struggle with some fishes but that is really easy.

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Perfect. What are we cooking for main course? A bit of roast

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pheasant, lovely bit of game season. Bbc.co.uk/Something For The Weekend

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is the place you need to go to find out all our recipes. It's like a

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salmon kebab, isn't it? Great thing to have, if you've had a couple of

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drinks, like last night! actually only had one drink. That's

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what they say. There's a new series of BBC Three's most successful

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sitcom ever, set entirely in Steve and Becky's flat. This is Him And

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Her. Today, what are you doing? I have

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important news and Paul's got to be back at one. Can I do a wee? No.

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you're more than five minutes late from lunch, Dean, the new guy,

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makes you down a pint of wine. of wine? Yeah. Let me just do a

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of wine? Yeah. Let me just do a quick wee. No. Ridiculous. First

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things first. We've chosen a choir for the wedding. Oh! We've been E

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mailing the vicar and he's given us the website of a choir made up

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entirely of blind people. Seriously can't see a thing. It's very

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generous of you. It's an act of charity and a tribute to Paul's

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uncle who is himself blind. Is he? Yeah, he got stabbed in the eyes.

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We want something upbeat like they have at black weddings, but sls

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something with a heart. Something about baby Jesus. Exactly. I want a

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veryer is reen ceremony, like when Diana died.

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Really? And you can watch Russell Tovey and Sarah Solemani who will

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be our guests next Sunday, excellent, I love Russell Tovey.

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And Him And Her is on Tuesday at 11.20 pm on BBC Two. Our first

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guest is big in the world of business, a big golfer, does deals

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worth big, big money and has a big new show on BBC Two and at 6'7" is

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well just... Big. Huge. He's huge. He became to most of us as a dragon

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in the den. HE RAPS I HAVE MORE CHANCE OF MAKING MONEY

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WITH THIS Money than with your ticket. �600 to hire for a day? I'm

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never going to call you again because it doesn't work. All of the

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money in return for 45% of your business. I wish you the best of

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luck, but I'm out. Big him up as we welcome him to

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Something For The Weekend, Peter Jones.

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Great show I love Dragon's Den. It just will keep on going forever.

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People love business, they love the inventions and the ideas. You don't

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know what's going to come up the stairs. That keeps it fresh. We're

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talking about your new show in a minute. We have a few tweets coming

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in. First from Jack Spears, "What is the best product on Dragon's Den

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ever?" Everybody knows Reggae Reggae Sauce, Levi Roots. Don't

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keep on saying it, because you're not allowed to. What Levi Roots.

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Yeah, but he was a big personality as well. Great character. Something

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you can really market. That's what it's all about. Do you get a gut

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feeling when they first start talking or can they win you over?

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With Levi I had to see. His product was just a sauce. I say just a

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sauce, it wasn't maidge orly complicated. It was him. Could I

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see him making that business a success? Probably not. But I could

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see him the marketing quality of the business. How successful has it

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been? Mega. He's a multimillionaire. I think he's the most successful

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man ever to appeared on television through a competition. He's a

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multimillionaire several times over. Wow. Good for him. Which means

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you're making money as well. Yeah. Do you bring that up into the other

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dragsons face? Another one, "Have you invested in anything that has

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been a turkey?" A lot of people have asked about the band, Hamfater.

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What happened to them, where are they now? I was sad about Hamfatter

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because I thought it could work. It's a great example that even with

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money and when you invest in something, you have to have a bit

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of scer tease. I knew nothing about that -- expertise. I knew nothing

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about the marketplace. I think I didn't help them as best I could.

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It was a band you thought could be successful. I thought they were

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great. I had friends in the music business who might be able to help

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me and they didn't help. It's ongoing though. Anything like that,

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it's all right getting one or two plays on the radio, but it's

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ongoing, it's consistently pushing, which I imagine is hard for you.

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You phoned your mates "Hello. Sorry line's breaking up." I called Chris

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Moyles. And he went what "Ham splatter?" No, Hamfatter. Lots

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don't work. That's business. Tell us about the new show. We're in the

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middle of a recession, people are struggling. You've found people

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whose businesss are thriving at the moment. Yeah the new show is how

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they made or how we made our millions. It's about a couple of

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individuals, Michelle Mone, who owns Ultimo and Richard Reed, who

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owns Innocent, the smoothy drink. I'm trying to get into their minds.

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I think everybody is saying, "How do I make it today?" You mention

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the recession, we're clearly in one, at least it's very difficult. I

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want to get into their mind set. What is the psyche of a millionaire.

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Is there such a thing? I've tracked two individuals, asked them the

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most detailed questions trying to get into their mind set. It was

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quite an interesting journey for me. We have a little clip here. We call

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this the smoothy wheel of fortune. Sometimes if we can't make a

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decision, we put the options on there and let the wheel of fortune

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decide for us. You put the ideas in here and whichever it turns to is

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the one you use? Exactly. That's the one you go for. You make

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decisions on a wheel of fortune? Yeah, basically. Would you die for

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your brand? Oh, I've got kids, but put it this way, when I tell you

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the story about how we almost went bust, I almost did, yeah. We go

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from here to hell for Ultimo. I read a book once, I've read a few

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books, I can't remember which one it is, which said that a lot of

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business is about being in the right place at the right time. That

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makes you think like Bill Gates, a bit of luck. Is that true? Yeah, I

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really do. I think that I've had more than my fair share of luck.

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You create your own luck to be fair. You're working hard, you have good

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breaks. It's like anything, you have to be good at what you do, but

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you need luck along the way. Do you think it's going to be harder for

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youngsters now to get those opportunities to go outs there and

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be entrepreneurs and make businesses work? Because

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everybody's so conscious of what they spend at the moment. I mean,

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it's going to be tough. It's really tough. The biggest problem is we've

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got to realise there is an education gap in enterprise in this

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country. We are so far behind. For every young person today that wants

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to become an entrepreneur, only 5% ever will. The reality is because

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they don't have the knowledge. That's why I set up an academy

:26:11.:26:16.

network, which we have 16 colleges up and down the country teaching

:26:17.:26:19.

individuals enterprise. There's a qualification now for the first

:26:19.:26:22.

time, which we've created. That's what needs to happen. People need

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to be taught. And everybody believes oh, you're born an

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entrepreneur, it's a load of rubbish. What are the similarities

:26:31.:26:35.

between you, Michelle and Richard? There's been residing similarity,

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there's a lot of things about us all, and there's a certain facade

:26:39.:26:44.

that we try to portray. We want to show that everything's OK.

:26:44.:26:47.

Sometimes it isn't. So there's a huge insecurity in entrepreneurs

:26:47.:26:51.

that we don't ever talk about. I know from my own feelings of losing

:26:51.:26:55.

everything, knowing what it's like to come back, I've been pretty

:26:55.:26:58.

lonely and insecure. But it's something we don't talk about.

:26:59.:27:02.

give us a really quick what happened? I made really bad

:27:02.:27:06.

decisions and I lent, it's lending people money, when you sell product

:27:06.:27:09.

to companies and give credit. I did it in the last recession. I lost

:27:09.:27:14.

everything. I wents from owning everything, the Porsche, the cars,

:27:14.:27:18.

the house, I lost the lot and ended up sleeping on a floor for six

:27:18.:27:21.

months. I've had this conversation with your wife, literally a

:27:21.:27:27.

mattress on the floor. How is she still your wife? She does talk

:27:27.:27:31.

about that story. It's very inspiring actually. Was it most

:27:31.:27:36.

exciting making it first time or second time? Second time for sure.

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Absolutely. You're holding onto it this time. Definitely. It's great

:27:39.:27:43.

now. But it still doesn't stop. You're on that tread mill. It's

:27:43.:27:48.

difficult. You don't ever want to get off. But I love it. It's about

:27:48.:27:51.

encouraging other people to do it now. How due make the money first

:27:51.:27:56.

time and then second time? I did a tennis academy to start with. Then

:27:56.:28:01.

I built computers. I thought I could be the next Michael Dell. I

:28:01.:28:05.

was clearly wrong. Then I started again in telecoms. Now it's just a

:28:05.:28:08.

broad spectrum of loads of different things. Do you encourage

:28:08.:28:11.

your children to get into business and understand business and the

:28:11.:28:15.

value, I know you install the value of money. That's interesting.

:28:15.:28:19.

interesting because it's difficult, what do you do with them? And how

:28:19.:28:22.

do you keep them grounded? Because the worst thing is you don't want

:28:22.:28:25.

some cocky little child coming in that really doesn't know what true

:28:25.:28:29.

life is all about. The reality is I'm kind of living a life that

:28:29.:28:34.

sometimes isn't real. How do you keep them grounded? We've set up a

:28:34.:28:37.

thing where when they inherit, if they go and get a job, they get

:28:37.:28:41.

double the money each year. If they go and help somebody, for example,

:28:41.:28:44.

go to do charity work, we'll pay for all of that and they'll get

:28:44.:28:47.

four times the amount they get. Charity work unfortunately is

:28:47.:28:52.

pretty low pay. I'm trying tone courage them to do good things.

:28:52.:28:57.

Talia for example, what's interesting is that she will ring

:28:57.:29:06.

me up thinking the television is wrong, asked me why I didn't invest

:29:06.:29:10.

in this or that. They're into pitching the ideas. I often give

:29:10.:29:14.

her my business plans. She'll read them out at nine years of age,

:29:14.:29:18.

saying dad I don't think this organic stuff is going to work.

:29:18.:29:21.

They aren't into it. They want low cost, good quality. She's already

:29:21.:29:26.

getting. It's feeding them. It's like real life, that movie Big with

:29:26.:29:31.

Tom Hanks. Get the kids in. It's great though. We have run out of

:29:31.:29:37.

time. Who is your favourite dragon to invest with? I've always had a

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problem with Duncan early on. I'm in business with Theo. I love him.

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It's hard. I have to be honest I love them all. As much as we fight.

:29:47.:29:52.

Hillary? One of the nicest people I've ever met. She's a real sweety.

:29:52.:29:56.

She's becoming the nation's favourite (in a deep voice) I have

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to say thank you to everybody on Twitter for dressing me today. Alan,

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Julie, Mike, everybody, thank you for making me who I am today.

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that fashion, I'm out. Peter is staying with us. Simon is making a

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pumpkin and coconut loaf. And would you cast your expert eye over

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gadgets with us? Yeah OK. I want to get a question to put to Peter or

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James and Nicky from the Manic Street Preachers, e-mail us or send

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us a tweet. Don't tell me you have never seen this before. We neeld

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the year for all these pieces it's Deja View.

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50 found out about the new scheme when they discovered clamps fitted

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century, the giant claw from a dinosaur, until now, unknown to

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How's the kid? Fine. What to doing walking by your

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lonesome on the street. None of your business. Look at my nose.

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Cruise there what year? '82. '83. Around them. If there's football in

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there we get it every week. Maybe they should throw it in for us.

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Then it might be embarrassing if we don't. Time for your versions of

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our recipes. We asked you to send in pictures of you naked. Little by

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little we are getting there. We If you are offended look away.

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Starting here this is Helen from South Yorkshire. She made the

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sherry braized chicken breasts. Hello, Helen!

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She said the presentation was poor, but it tasted delicious.

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She braised her breasts with sherry. She had been foraging. She said....

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Louise is shocked. I have one week off and they get women to send in

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naked pictures! What's going on? One for the ladies, Lou. Check this

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out. This is Kieron Willis from Cambridge. He made the apple and

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appropriately passion fruit pie. He made it for his girlfriend. That is

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the work of genius. I love it! And just to show.... If we keep doing

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this the ratings will go up. That is a Dundee football shirt.

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You don't have to send in naked pictures. But you have more chance

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of getting on the fridge if you do. Do send them via the website, or

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you can tweet us at SFTW. It is brilliant. Gets better every week.

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So....? We are doing pheasant. I don't think we have done it

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I don't think we have done it before. We did quail once. Is the

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main aim to make it so the bird doesn't dry out? Yes. The thing

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with game birds, the thing is, it is true with chicken, if you had a

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chicken this size it would dry out. We are cooking celeriac. We have

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fried up some bacon. Taken it out of the pan. All the uses are in

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there. We have a bay leaf. This is our pheasant. Streaky bacon. The

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stock is cider, cream, thyme. We have a selection of vegetables. We

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have garlic, carrots, mushrooms, onions and leeks. Your first job is

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to chop that up. We'll make a base for the bird to sit on. This is

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true of any bird you cook really. I did goes last year. It doesn't --

:35:15.:35:25.
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of the bird going through it. It is a simple thing to do. You get nice,

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delicious flavour. Thyme, sprinkle that on it. The garlic, we don't

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need to chop it at all. When you get a pheasant has it been shot?

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Yes. Do you have to check it for shots? Do the butchers, the shops

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do that? It depends where you buy it from. These days it is more

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accessible game. You would only buy it from a butcher and it would be

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hanging up. They tend to be packaged up, read wri to go, so you

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don't have the worries, which is why the sales of pheasant and all

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game has gone up. Is it true it is not native to our country. North

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America is where it originates from. We want moisture in this. We have

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butter. That will go into the cavity, like that.

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I want to start the sauce, actually. While I do that - I want to talk

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football, Tim. I don't want to mention the Chelsea

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3-, Arsenal, five result yesterday, but you playing football with Andy

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Murray. Is that true I went up to the national tennis player. They

:36:49.:36:52.

wanted someone to play tennis. I didn't know he was playing tennis.

:36:52.:36:57.

He came and played. He's pretty handy with his feet. Every time he

:36:57.:37:00.

got the ball I didn't want to tackle him because I thought, the

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last thing you want to be doing is injuring our greatest tennis player

:37:07.:37:17.
:37:17.:37:18.

for the last how many years? Since Virginia Wade, '77. She was the

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last British person. Everything happened in '77. Queen's jubilee.

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Punk. A lot happened.

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What am I doing? With the sauce, what we're doing. Now we've added

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the bacon. We have reduced the moisture. Then we add a glug of

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cider in there. Some nice flavour in this. Reduce that down a little

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bit. Reduce it down to almost nothing. Let's assume that has

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happened. Then we add stock into there. And a good strong stock.

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We've got good flavour in the pheasant. You could use chicken

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stock. Make sure it is a rich flavour. If you can get game stock,

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even better. We reduce that down. Then we add a glug of cream into

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there. This will be reely -- really rich. You could finish with creme

:38:14.:38:17.

fraiche. Bubble that away to thicken it. You could do all this

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with the bird. We have butter inside. Now rub butter all over the

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top of this. We are looking to get lots of moisture so it will not dry

:38:27.:38:31.

out. So you are really working it. Is this too much? That is perfect.

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We want there to be plenty of moisture on there. Then a good bit

:38:36.:38:42.

of seasoning. In the cavity as well. It is good, you can be messy with

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this and then wash your hands. Get yourself in there. You can see with

:38:46.:38:52.

this sauce, very quickly it start toss reduce down. There's a high

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fat conant -- starts to reduce down. There's a high fat content.

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With the bacon, one, we have flavour from the bacon. Two, we

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have a lot more fat in there. As it cooks you've got the fat that will

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actually keep it nice and moist. Lie a bay leaf on top of that and

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sit it on top of our veg. Give your hands a bit of a wash. Sit that on

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top, then we roast this for 55 minutes or so. What will happen is

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we've got the delicious fat from the bacon which keeps it moist. We

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have lots of flavour. The butter will keep it nice and rich. Lots of

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juices will come out. If you wanted to you could use all this veg.

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pheasant expensive? It is not too bad. It's the season for it. It's

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at its best. It will not feed a lot. That is for two. No, it isn't. One

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thing you notice straight away is that obviously we have loads of

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moisture, all the delicious butter we've had in there has gone into

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the veg. The veg is lovely. Take all that veg out. Puree it. Pass it.

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And you have the basis for a lovely gravy. What we're going to do with

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this fella - look at that - smells lovely! It is a richer smell,

:40:18.:40:24.

richer flavour than chicken. If it's not pheasant season....

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don't you do the vegetables along side it? You can if you want to do.

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Tim, we will do that. We will absolutely do it. I thought you

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said it was a sauce. The cream makes the sauce. What we've got is

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here is our veg contact. We have one half of that and then we will

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scope out some of your vegetables. Put them on there as well. Peter,

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do you want to come over and try this? Then we sit our lovely

:40:59.:41:05.

pheasant on top. What do you do? We carve it. Give

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it a slice up. You are tall, aren't you? I feel

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slightly insignificant here. Did you play basketball? I didn't.

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Was it just tennis? Is it too late now? Did you play tennis? Tennis

:41:31.:41:36.

was, there was a big advantage being tall with tennis. When you

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get to drop shots, - not so good. Smells lovely!

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It has that delicious sort of flavour of crispiness and

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Christmassy flavours. It looks Christmassy.

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Very nice! What is Peter going to be cooking with you next? A pumpkin

:41:59.:42:05.

loaf for us. I like the sound of that.

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So pumpkin and coconut loaf for desert.

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OK. That is it. If you look at our website, alongside all of today's

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-- at SFTW. Artist Grayson Perry, best known

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for cross-dressing is curating an exhibition at the British Museum.

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He is embarking on a peace and reconciliation tour to Germany with

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D The pilgrimage was to depart from Chelmsford and end at Chelmsford's

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twin town. Alan is on his throne. He was given to me 50 years ago

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close to this spot. I was born in the hospital up there. St John's

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hospital. That is where I first met Alan. The mayor - fantastic! Thank

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you very much for coming. The send- off turned out to be a gathering of

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all of the Alans. With his mission given an official stamp of approval

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by Chelmsford's mayor. Keeper of all good qualitys. A leader, a

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fighter, a sports man, a father. This is a personal message from

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myself, the Mayor of Chelmsford to take with you and present it to him.

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We will. Alan, we need to push it.

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Won't need much of a push. Oh, it OK and you can take a ride with

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Grayson Perry: The Tomb Of The Unknown Craftsman on Tuesday

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10.35pm on BBC One. During their rock careers our next guests have

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played through acid house, Manchester, grunge, hip-hop, they

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have survived five British Prime Ministers. Their album is out

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tomorrow, including all singles, including these classics.

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# A design for her life # Just like before

:45:16.:45:21.

# It isn't far enough # If you tolerate this, then our

:45:21.:45:31.
:45:31.:45:31.

children will be next # And if you tolerate this, then

:45:31.:45:35.

your children will be next # Will be next, will be next, will

:45:35.:45:41.

be next # Welcome back to Something For The

:45:41.:45:45.

Weekend James and Nicky from the Manic Street Preachers. You're

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doing all 37 singles, does that mean you're splitting up? No.

:45:50.:45:56.

at all. Jesus, I'd go into therapy for the rest of my life if you told

:45:56.:46:02.

me we were splitting up. We are institutionalised musicians. What

:46:02.:46:08.

made you put all the singles on an album. We're completists really. If

:46:08.:46:13.

there's a next phase, it's drawing a line in the sand. We'll go and

:46:13.:46:16.

what way and come up with something. You're going to put this out and

:46:16.:46:23.

then you're going to take a couple of years off to re-jig the band.

:46:23.:46:29.

Recalibrate. What does that mean, are you going to try and find a new

:46:29.:46:37.

sound? Jazz! Welsh punk jazz. Don't know if the world really needs that.

:46:37.:46:41.

We just got our studio in Cardiff, which is kind of like a youth club

:46:41.:46:46.

for the over 40s really. We are just going to retire to there for

:46:46.:46:49.

the next few years and see what we're going to come up with. There

:46:49.:46:55.

are not so many guitar bands with hit singles. You said it would be

:46:55.:46:59.

your last single and just release albums after this. I think. So we

:46:59.:47:04.

can't be expected to keep up with all these whipper snappers. It's

:47:04.:47:10.

all you have to do to promote as well. When we started it was just

:47:10.:47:14.

one, but now there's five digital versions of the same thing. Let's

:47:14.:47:23.

have a lock at the same -- new single. What made you do this?

:47:23.:47:33.
:47:33.:47:35.

got a Mel colic victorious feel in it. We loved this song from when we

:47:35.:47:40.

were young. Matt Johnson from The The, not easy to say, he was one of

:47:40.:47:50.
:47:50.:47:55.

our heroes. # The sunburns into your eyes

:47:55.:48:01.

# This is day your life will surely change

:48:01.:48:11.

# This is the day when things fall into place #

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So the footage there, the video is footage of you throughout the years,

:48:16.:48:21.

even with Fidel Castro. Does it make you feel emotional watching

:48:21.:48:28.

all that stuff? It did. When we finished it and me and my brother

:48:28.:48:33.

edited it together, it put a lump in my throat. A tweet here from

:48:34.:48:37.

Lindsay saying "Highlight of the 25 years, was there one moment when

:48:37.:48:43.

you thought wow?" There's a couple. There was staying in B&Bs, sleeping

:48:43.:48:48.

in the same beds together and kind of transit van stuff. And things

:48:48.:48:52.

like Millennium Stadium and winning the Brits. Yeah that early day

:48:52.:48:57.

stuff. It's almost corny last gang in town thing. You're in a transit

:48:57.:49:00.

and scraping money together for a burger and chips to share. It was

:49:00.:49:04.

always about chips really. Don't you think it's unusual that you've

:49:04.:49:11.

never split up though. The Stone Roses what do you think about them

:49:11.:49:15.

getting back together again? Roses and Pistols they deserve it.

:49:15.:49:18.

They never had the chance to cash in really. Some other bands, it

:49:18.:49:23.

seems like more of a career move. They are like classic old

:49:23.:49:28.

footballers who missed out on the money. You came out of the old

:49:28.:49:30.

fashioned way of music, like clubbing together to buy a burger

:49:30.:49:35.

and chips on the way back from a gig. What do you make of the

:49:35.:49:41.

current music industry where people are catapoulted is quickly into

:49:41.:49:47.

being stars. They have such short careers. Would you have take than

:49:47.:49:52.

route? I'm glad we grew up when we did. It was so much more fulfilling

:49:52.:49:55.

and enjoyable. We didn't tell millions of albums until our fourth

:49:55.:49:59.

record. You know what you're doing by then and that's the great thing.

:49:59.:50:05.

It didn't stop us meting up. feel, I suppose, thaw bring your

:50:05.:50:10.

best work to the table. This thing with like guitar bands you don't do

:50:10.:50:15.

your best work until your third album. Now bands don't a chance to

:50:15.:50:19.

get to their second album. We were lucky to be a band when we were,.

:50:19.:50:24.

We were lucky that I was in school with James since we were four.

:50:24.:50:31.

That's 38 years together. That's slightly unnatural I know! My band

:50:31.:50:35.

career started on the football field when he'd stand with his

:50:35.:50:43.

hands on the hips. He would tell me what to do. You're doing a gig with

:50:43.:50:49.

this, yeah? All the way to the, all 37 singles. How long with that

:50:49.:50:52.

take? I think we'll have an interval for the crowds to have

:50:52.:50:56.

something to eat and drink and for us to have a massage and some

:50:56.:51:01.

steroids. It's going to be a tough thing, 27 tracks. It's tough to

:51:01.:51:05.

remember all the words. Are you going to have them written down?

:51:05.:51:14.

could go down the route to have a teleprompter like Ozzy Osborne.

:51:14.:51:19.

could just sing it twice. The album is called National Treasures is

:51:19.:51:22.

that because you are national Welsh treasures or British treasures?

:51:22.:51:28.

There's a bit of irony involved in that. At the start there was a nice

:51:28.:51:32.

balance of pure hatred and doe vogs. There's always been that with us.

:51:32.:51:40.

You know I know nothing about rugby, and you're huge fans - And football

:51:40.:51:44.

fans. What did you think of Wales? Painful and heart breaking and

:51:44.:51:48.

amazing. It was a funeral pyre of emotions. My wife, it's the first

:51:48.:51:52.

time she's experienced that kind of emotion in Wales where we were just

:51:52.:51:56.

walking around the streets, it was like, you know, like zombies

:51:56.:52:01.

walking around after the game. She couldn't believe it. As you

:52:01.:52:04.

represent Wales and Welsh sport at the moment, what do you think of

:52:04.:52:08.

the GB teams. Wales FA have said they don't want to be involved.

:52:08.:52:12.

Gareth Bale will see. I've got no problem with. It I love the

:52:12.:52:16.

Olympics any way. I'm a sport obsessive. I'll be watching the

:52:16.:52:20.

archery at 3am from Sydney. I love the Olympics. I don't think it

:52:20.:52:24.

means we lose any identity or UEFA are going to strip us of all that

:52:24.:52:28.

kind of stuff. Just go with it, for once. I was kind of against it at

:52:28.:52:32.

first. When I saw the shot of Gareth Bale with a prospective top

:52:32.:52:37.

on I thought, that makes sense. plays for Spurs and also Welsh, one

:52:37.:52:41.

of the best players in Britain. He will be definitely playing. I read

:52:41.:52:48.

that you were Tottenham fans. Is this true? Yes. I am. That's nice

:52:48.:52:52.

to hear. He was always going on about champagne football when we

:52:52.:52:57.

were young. Why Tottenham, being from Wales? My dad took me to see

:52:57.:53:02.

Cardiff. I went to Newport county as well. Seeing Glenn Hoddle

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changed my line. Just the most gifted player of his generation.

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One of the best. Him and Gazza. Both Number Ten. All I have in my

:53:12.:53:22.
:53:22.:53:23.

mind is rod any Marsh having a run out. -- Rodney. This is not a

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football show come on. You're cooking our final dish, if you want

:53:30.:53:40.
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to tweet [email protected] or e-mail us. is also all to come today: Pick up

:53:43.:53:48.

a pebble in Frozen Planet. impressive property demonstrates

:53:48.:53:58.
:53:58.:54:01.

your worth as a mate. Simon's creating savoury custard tarts.

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Louis Theroux meets America's Most Dangerous Pets. I don't want to

:54:04.:54:10.

touch her bum that much is one of the things.

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Peter Jones is in the kitchen with us. Are you as good at cooking as

:54:15.:54:21.

spotting a great idea? No. I love it. Sometimes when I'm at home I do

:54:21.:54:25.

mess things up. I have a go. I'm willing to get in. That's good.

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Have you always cooked? Not really, no. Packet stuff, microwave. Yeah,

:54:32.:54:36.

I'm with you. It's that prep work. Time is a big thing. This is quite

:54:36.:54:40.

a nice thing to do. This is a pumpkin and coconut loaf. Tell me

:54:40.:54:45.

this, because I know mums are going to be saying right, when we emptied

:54:45.:54:49.

this out to do our face it doesn't look like that, it's smashy. Is

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that OK? That's fine. We have peeled the pumpkin and then roasted

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it and cut it into cubes. It doesn't matter. If all you have is

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big bits, fine, it will roast. Because we're pureeing this it

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doesn't matter how it looks. This is a pumpkin cake? A pumpkin and

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coconut loaf. Here's the pumpkin that we've roasted. We have flour,

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bicarbonate of sodya, nutmeg, cloves, cinnamon and ginger. Then

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desiccated coconut, water which we may or may not need, then eggs,

:55:24.:55:26.

may or may not need, then eggs, butter and light brown sugar. The

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first job is to cream that together. In we go. Mind the velvet jacket.

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Go for it. See that's nice. While Peter is doing that, we've roasted

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this off so it's soft. This is one of those things because this is

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going to be a puree in our cake, you're besting overroasting rather

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than underroasting this. You want it to be nice and soft. Just not

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burnt. No. Cover it with foil. If you're worried about that, put it

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into a roasting tray and then cover it and roast it until it's nice and

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soft. Blend that until it's good and smooth is what we want it to be.

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A bit of texture not too much of a problem, but you know, the more the

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merrier. When do you know this is done? Basically, as we keep

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whisking it - that will do - it will come together and be smoothish,

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but it's not crucial. Next job is to simply spoon all of that into

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there. Is that me? Let's spatulate it. I'm I'm doing that in here

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right? Yeah, beautiful. Nice. Have there been many food businesses on

:56:43.:56:49.

Dragon's Den? Simon's got an idea. I've loads! Would you come into the

:56:49.:56:54.

Den and pitch it? Wouldn't you love to do that. I would love that.

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We're not all that bad you know. You just have to get the numbers

:56:58.:57:02.

right. That's the one isn't it. come up with a good idea and you've

:57:02.:57:07.

got to be a bit scared coming p the scared. It's that whole thing, you

:57:07.:57:10.

look at, that's always the one that people fall down on. Even if you

:57:10.:57:14.

like the idea, if you don't think the numbers work, with a few

:57:14.:57:18.

notable exceptions, then it falls down. Or equally, if they can't

:57:18.:57:22.

guarantee numbers, a lot of people make it up, do you think? When they

:57:22.:57:26.

make the numbers up, you're like, well, it doesn't add up. You'll be

:57:26.:57:30.

amazed the amount of people that have clearly watched the show, but

:57:30.:57:35.

still come in, "What's your turnover in the first year? I don't

:57:35.:57:39.

know. What does your product do? I don't know, but it looks good."

:57:39.:57:43.

It's amazing how they haven't got a clue. I really love the show. The

:57:43.:57:47.

first couple of years it was quite difficult. I was having to deal

:57:47.:57:51.

with much older friend Duncan Bannatyne, that was hard. But now

:57:51.:57:56.

I've got to know him, actually I quite enjoy it. I do. Didn't you go

:57:56.:58:05.

over the -- to the States to do a show? Yes the American inventor

:58:05.:58:10.

show. Was you on that over there? It's something I came up with, it

:58:10.:58:16.

wasn't, I thought wouldn't it be great to have people with just

:58:16.:58:21.

purely inventions coming to pitch with a panel of people. It was

:58:21.:58:28.

myself and George Foreman, a guy called Pat Crouchy and Sarah

:58:28.:58:34.

Blakely, the lady who did Spanx. There were four judges N Chicago

:58:34.:58:41.

alone, we had nearly 10,000 people queuing up. And what was there

:58:41.:58:46.

anybody that was successful that has gone on that we would know

:58:46.:58:52.

about? There was one a spherical car seat for a child, which will

:58:52.:58:58.

come out in years to come. But this car seat is an enclosed capsule and

:58:58.:59:01.

one of the things about children when they're in their car seats,

:59:01.:59:05.

when you have an accident, it is still quite dangerous for them.

:59:05.:59:11.

They have very soft bones. The car seat goes around and moves in a

:59:11.:59:14.

different way. Really it takes the inertia of everything. That's great.

:59:14.:59:19.

Last year, we had the winner was a fireman who came up with one of the

:59:19.:59:24.

biggest things and problems at Christmas was house fires, caused

:59:24.:59:28.

bit trees. He came up with the house present which was basically a

:59:28.:59:32.

guardian angel that goes at the top of the tree and it's all water

:59:32.:59:38.

based F there's a fire, the tree is covered in water in seconds. He won

:59:38.:59:42.

$1 million. What can we come up with? Now it's all the dry bits.

:59:42.:59:47.

Tip in the flour and desiccated coconut and all of the spices. Then

:59:47.:59:53.

gently fold that in. All that can go in together. Were the Americans

:59:53.:59:58.

better at pitching than the British as a general rule? The Americans

:59:58.:00:01.

are quite, they are more, they're less reserved. They go for it.

:00:01.:00:06.

That's what, I think that's what we need to encourage here is we have a

:00:06.:00:09.

bit of an education when we're brought up, we're a bit reserved

:00:09.:00:14.

aren't we, us Brits. We have to step out of that. We lack

:00:14.:00:19.

confidence in presenting ourselves in a confident way. We like to play

:00:19.:00:21.

everything down. Do you feel there's an embarrassment about

:00:21.:00:25.

money, in this country, it's almost vulgar to talk about money, saying

:00:25.:00:29.

I want this to make money. Whereas the Americans it's a capitalist

:00:29.:00:32.

culture, they go, you know what, I'm going to do this, because I

:00:32.:00:36.

want to make money. When I lost my business I went to the banks to try

:00:36.:00:43.

to get more money. They said, "You've got to be kidding. You've

:00:43.:00:47.

failed." Whereas in America, they think you're never going to be

:00:47.:00:50.

successful until you've failed a few times. I was in the States

:00:50.:00:53.

pitching something for one of the businesses that I have, I was

:00:53.:00:56.

amazed when we were speaking to guise over there how much

:00:56.:01:00.

everything is about like, where is the revenue from this. You see it

:01:00.:01:04.

loads of times in Dragon's Den, people seem to have good ideas, but

:01:04.:01:08.

they've not thought about it in a commercial way particularly. They

:01:08.:01:18.
:01:18.:01:23.

almost want you, you're the dragon Good, perfect! This doesn't look

:01:23.:01:28.

massively attractive, but what we're getting in this is some

:01:28.:01:34.

texture you have your flours, eggs, baking powder in there. When it

:01:34.:01:39.

cooks and Peter made one before.... I don't know if putting it in your

:01:39.:01:47.

hands is allowed! I washed them before.

:01:47.:01:50.

That took me longer. It is looking great. This really,

:01:50.:01:55.

this is a cake that you would have a cup of tea, cup of coffee. It's

:01:55.:02:00.

not a desert cake, as such. What you get is this lovely,

:02:00.:02:05.

delicious.... If you think of things like banana bread, that kind

:02:05.:02:12.

of thing, it's too -- that kind of idea. We have lovely figs. There's

:02:12.:02:22.
:02:22.:02:28.

a lovely richness around. Would you like to try my cake?

:02:28.:02:38.
:02:38.:02:43.

is called pumpkin cake, but we are renaming it, "Dragon Cake." That is

:02:43.:02:47.

really nice. Did I really make that earlier?

:02:47.:02:57.
:02:57.:02:59.

What is next? Savoury custard tarts. Bonfire Nights and Hallowe'en

:02:59.:03:08.

cocktails - but first your second D # Who am I to disagree

:03:08.:03:12.

# I travelled the world and the seven seas

:03:12.:03:18.

# Everybody's looking for something Just over an hour ago the House of

:03:18.:03:22.

Lords voted in favour of televising Parliament. The decision could put

:03:22.:03:27.

pressure on MPs in the Commons to follow suit. The Metropolitan

:03:27.:03:31.

Police today began a clamp down, quite it will lalry on parking

:03:31.:03:38.

offenders. Nearly 50 motorists discovered the new scheme.

:03:38.:03:42.

Surrey plumber who dug up a dinosaur's toenail has made one of

:03:43.:03:47.

the most important finds of the century. It was over a foot long. A

:03:47.:03:53.

giant claw from a giant dinosaur, until now, unknown to science.

:03:53.:04:03.
:04:03.:04:03.

# Some of them want to be used by What are you doing?

:04:03.:04:09.

I dropped my eggs. Dropped my spoon. I wouldn't believe that if I didn't

:04:09.:04:14.

see it in the paper. Tell me, what's it like being a hero? What?

:04:14.:04:24.
:04:24.:04:32.

A hero man, like a bit shoty! OK, what do you think? I went '84.

:04:32.:04:42.
:04:42.:04:43.

'83, '84. I auditions for that!

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What have we got? Nice drinks for Hallowe'en and one for Bonfire

:04:48.:04:53.

Night as well. A twist on a hotted toy. We will

:04:53.:05:02.

make a drink called "Devil in disguise." We'll have black vodka.

:05:02.:05:11.

Black vodka. It is coloured, and is from Asia. Doesn't taste any

:05:11.:05:18.

different. As a gimmick or? Gimmick. Great for hollow wean. Would it be

:05:18.:05:22.

popular with some people all year around? You see it in a few bars.

:05:22.:05:30.

It is weird if you ask for a vodka and tonic and it comes up dark.

:05:30.:05:36.

always appealing, but now, Hallowe'en, works a treat. Sherry

:05:36.:05:42.

brandy in there. Lime. Nice, simple flavours. You want a nice purple

:05:42.:05:51.

hue to this drink. What is the juice? Christian berry?

:05:51.:06:01.
:06:01.:06:01.

Yes. A nice Hallowe'en -- cranberry. Yes, a nice Hallowe'en drink.

:06:01.:06:06.

you fancy another drink after last night?

:06:06.:06:13.

Had some lovely drinks. People wondered if you were drinking out

:06:13.:06:21.

of Aladdin's lamp? I had a copper cup.

:06:21.:06:27.

Now I have this chilli stick. Load it up.

:06:27.:06:34.

Where do you get it from? Online. It is a gimmicky tool to put as a

:06:34.:06:41.

stirrer in your drink. What's in it? Dry ice, like in here.

:06:41.:06:47.

Very, very cold. You load it in. Two or three pellets and away you

:06:47.:06:57.
:06:57.:06:58.

go. So you have Devil In DisGuise. Can I put -- in Disguise.

:06:58.:07:07.

Can I put my nose in the smoke? Hubble-bubble!

:07:07.:07:12.

It tastes lovely! It is a nice simple drink. A great

:07:12.:07:20.

drink for Hallowe'en - Devil In Disguise.

:07:20.:07:26.

I like the bubbly bits. It would be nice if someone turned up to your

:07:26.:07:33.

house on Hallowe'en. You would be like, "Welcome!" Do you think you

:07:33.:07:43.
:07:43.:07:44.

should go into a dance routine? Yeah, where's me mic and knee pads?

:07:44.:07:51.

I have brandy butter, all spice. You have that clove character. I

:07:51.:07:58.

will squeeze the orange peel. Vanilla syrup and a good double

:07:58.:08:03.

measure of this blended smoky character to it.

:08:03.:08:10.

I have some hot cider. So toddy is hot water, lemon, cloves, honey.

:08:10.:08:15.

This is good if you are not well, you have man flu. You want to stay

:08:15.:08:22.

in for a few days. Order one of these from the doctor. Or you've

:08:22.:08:31.

had too many cosmopolitans. It is very silky and gives it a

:08:31.:08:36.

lovely feel. It is a version of a hot toddy. There you go, hot

:08:36.:08:40.

buttered toddy. It feels like you should have

:08:40.:08:46.

something like that. It's strong. Lovely! That would be lovely out

:08:46.:08:51.

when it's cold and.... It's lovely! That's good because it has a bite

:08:51.:08:58.

to it, hasn't it? Now Lady low wees, this is for you.

:08:58.:09:08.

This is called -- low wees. This is for you. This is called Lady Louise.

:09:08.:09:12.

And it's your birthday next week. Next week. Thank you. Pass me a

:09:12.:09:16.

straw. I have to serve it with some

:09:16.:09:24.

chocolates. Oh, look at me! And we have... And you have to have

:09:24.:09:33.

a birthday with a candle. I hold this candle for you, happy

:09:33.:09:39.

birthday, Louise. I won't hand it over in case anything goes wrong.

:09:39.:09:44.

It is an indoor sparkler, so it is safe. That is really good. That is

:09:44.:09:52.

your signature drink, Lady Louise. I have named it for you. Chocolate,

:09:52.:09:59.

sparklers and.... And Lady Louise. I should go out on a Saturday night

:09:59.:10:01.

more often. Those cocktails are on our website,

:10:01.:10:07.

bbc.co.uk/somethingfortheweekend. Thanks for that. What happens when

:10:07.:10:15.

penguins turn bad? You can find out on frozen planet.

:10:15.:10:20.

-- Frozen Planet. Over the coming months the few parts which are ice-

:10:20.:10:29.

free will be the stage on which five million will build their nests.

:10:29.:10:34.

To construct one they need pebbles. Without a good-looking nest, a male

:10:34.:10:40.

will be unable to attract a female - when they at last arrive. An

:10:41.:10:48.

impressive property demonstrates your worth as a mate.

:10:48.:10:53.

It takes stones of all shapes and sizes to build a decent nest.

:10:53.:11:00.

Finding ones which are just right is not easy.

:11:00.:11:10.
:11:10.:11:44.

So, some penguins turn to a life of The one who has been robbed seems

:11:44.:11:54.
:11:54.:11:58.

unaware that the thief is just over You can watch the pebble-pinching

:11:58.:12:05.

penguins on Wednesday at 9pm on BBC One. Lucy is here with her through

:12:05.:12:12.

new gadgets. What is the news. Phone shapes. I was at Nokia world,

:12:13.:12:18.

where they announce their leadest techs. It had come up with the two

:12:18.:12:25.

handsets made in association with Microsoft. The 800 is high end,

:12:25.:12:31.

gorgeous design. The 710s more budget. More plasticy. It has

:12:31.:12:34.

introduced the interchangeable covers... That noise, we are about

:12:34.:12:40.

to do a smoke alarm as a gadget. has come in too early. That is the

:12:40.:12:47.

news from Nokia. The smartphone powerhouse.... It

:12:47.:12:52.

has been announced it will be 17th November release date. One to watch.

:12:52.:12:57.

Will they compete against the iPhone? It has a good chance of

:12:57.:13:01.

competing. An awesome operating system. Awesome pictures. One to

:13:01.:13:08.

watch. So our first gadgt is a fire alarm. It -- gadget is a fire alarm.

:13:08.:13:14.

It works because you just heard it. If your house is about to go up in

:13:14.:13:18.

flames.... We have some smoke proving it works. There's the alarm.

:13:18.:13:22.

If your house is about to go up in flames you will be the first person

:13:22.:13:27.

to know about it. It will send a text to your phone and three others.

:13:27.:13:31.

Simple address that. Is that it?

:13:31.:13:39.

So the alarm goes off. There we go! It comes in, in capital letters, it

:13:39.:13:47.

is screaming at me "Fire at gran's house." How what happens? You make

:13:47.:13:55.

a mad dash over to your granny and try and save her.

:13:55.:14:00.

I like it actually. I think these things will be a way forward

:14:00.:14:04.

because what you're - it's an early warning system. Normally these

:14:04.:14:09.

systems are linked to your normal household systems which are in with

:14:09.:14:15.

ADT. Not everybody has it. Sims are low cost. Cheap to run every month.

:14:15.:14:19.

At least you know you can call the police or the fire brigade yourself.

:14:19.:14:25.

It is good if you have an elderly relative. Keep an eye on them.

:14:25.:14:32.

only offering you 10%, Peter! Or half a million!

:14:32.:14:38.

We have the HTC Rhyme. Unlike others this is mid-range. It is

:14:39.:14:41.

designed to give you that smartphone experience.

:14:41.:14:50.

Is this designed for ladys? It is designed for ladies. When it rings

:14:50.:14:55.

this happens. A charm you can hang out of your handbag.

:14:55.:14:58.

I was not going to mention it was for women. That is what

:14:58.:15:04.

differentiates it from the rest of the smartphones out there. We have

:15:05.:15:08.

these tangle-free headphones like the ones on the market. No tangles,

:15:08.:15:12.

no having to undo that in the morning. This is the best bit.

:15:12.:15:19.

comes with all this as well. Comes with a dedicated dock. It goes into

:15:19.:15:22.

landscape mode. Should go into land scope mode. You can use it as a

:15:22.:15:28.

desk top alarm. It is at the optimum viewing angle. You can play

:15:28.:15:34.

songs on it. Acts as a Speaker for your songs and movies. When they

:15:34.:15:38.

aim products at.... When they aim products at women, do you think

:15:38.:15:48.
:15:48.:15:53.

They're such an innovative company, but when you see the Alle -- apple

:15:53.:15:59.

4X it's not an Apple 5, it's a disappointment. When you have HTC

:15:59.:16:02.

with things like this, it won't take long for these guys to take

:16:02.:16:06.

market share away. I love this. People never believe it, but one

:16:06.:16:15.

day Apple won't be as dominating. It always changes. Samsung, HTC,

:16:15.:16:23.

great players. HTC comes out with amazing smartphones. Now the final

:16:23.:16:32.

one. This is a clever iPad app. You can get social, interact and

:16:32.:16:36.

immerse yourself in a TV show. So we have Something For The Weekend

:16:36.:16:40.

here. This is a Twitter feed. Can you see what everyone is saying in

:16:40.:16:44.

real time. It updates automatically. You have access to news links.

:16:44.:16:47.

you're watching TV and go on the page for Something For The Weekend

:16:47.:16:51.

and it brings all the things to you. It's a central hub to access

:16:51.:16:54.

everything related to the show. So Twitter feed, news, information

:16:54.:16:59.

about you guys, the presenters, you have related links here. You've

:16:59.:17:02.

seen cool recipes, you want to check them out. It takes you

:17:03.:17:05.

directly to Something For The Weekend website. It's a quick way

:17:05.:17:08.

to get the information thaw want. Let's say you're watching a film,

:17:08.:17:12.

"Who is that actress?" You get a quick link to that. It's really

:17:12.:17:17.

clever. On top of that, connect to all your friends on Facebook with

:17:17.:17:20.

the application. You can invite them to chat with you. You can chat

:17:20.:17:25.

about the show with its built in messenger. Can you tell people on

:17:25.:17:29.

Facebook you're watching the show. It's a great way to immerse

:17:29.:17:32.

yourself in a TV programme. If you love X Factor, getting all the news

:17:32.:17:36.

straight up in real time. Is that live, can it go within a site or is

:17:36.:17:40.

that just a separate site? It's a separate application. What they're

:17:40.:17:43.

going to try to do because I spoke to the guy earlier, they're going

:17:43.:17:49.

to get it so you're watching the TV show, you can watch it while you're

:17:49.:17:53.

doing it. What do you think of this? I think this is, no question

:17:53.:17:56.

it's the future. That's where it's all going. The fact you can get so

:17:56.:17:59.

much information all at once and it's contained, that's the great

:17:59.:18:04.

selling point of this type of product. It's a great time saver.

:18:04.:18:08.

have a company that I invested in called Expanses.com. This would be

:18:09.:18:12.

great for them. I could see them using this. Isn't it brilliant,

:18:13.:18:17.

gadgets with you stood here getting your view. Can you come every week?

:18:17.:18:24.

Yeah, we need to have a chat. Thanks to Peter and Lucy. Thanks

:18:24.:18:27.

for your expertise. For more information on this stuff, e-mail

:18:27.:18:32.

us via our website and we'll get back to you. Louis Theroux is back

:18:32.:18:37.

on our screens, getting up close to America's Most Dangerous Pets.

:18:37.:18:41.

She's just going to grab you real close and want to you hold her.

:18:41.:18:46.

That's fine. She's not a bit aggressive. You feel her belt Reich

:18:46.:18:54.

here. Hold onto that. Like that? Yeah that's her harness. She's

:18:54.:18:59.

screaming over the mic. She doesn't understand that. Look at this, this

:18:59.:19:02.

is interesting. She's wanting to groom you. She's checking you out.

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It's quite a nice feeling. But there's something about her face

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that's a bit offputting. No, no. She will automatically scream when

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I go to get her back. She's getting nrveous when you get close and

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that's making me nervous. Why are you making her nervous. Because she

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wants to stay out. Sheems get ago tension. She loves the attention.

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don't really want to touch her bum that much is one of the things.

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You can monkey around with Louis Theroux, America's Most Dangerous

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Pets tonight at 9pm on BBC Two. James and Nicky are here. What did

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you cook last time? I was terrible. What did you cook? Some sort of

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chicken thing. Do you cook? I'm a good cook. My taught me when I was

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young. I had to learn what she was doing. What did you cook? I know

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how to do a good roast dinner, lasagne. Mackerel fish cakes are

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good. They're good. I can't remember whu were on and you did

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that one handed thing. You didn't connect with it at all. It was OK,

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I'd do a bit. I never go in the kitchen, except to open a packet of

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crisps. What are we making? Those sweet Portuguese tarts that we've

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all had. No reason they can't be savoury. We have creamy milk

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bubbling away. Mustard, cornflour, a bit of vanilla, a bit of perfume

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to it, eggs, using the yolks and to it, eggs, using the yolks and

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thyme and puffed pastry. First job, jaipldz, -- James, if you could

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separate the eggs. I need the yokes. I'm -- Yolks. I'm glad I'm not

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doing those. Eggs are the thing with our guests that are the ching

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thing. See the man knows what he's doing. Look at this. Whilst you're

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doing that, you've got a new book out as well, it's called, what is

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it called? Death of a Polaroid. I collected about 6,000 to 10,000

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Polaroids over the last 20 years and I've narrowed it down into this

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beautiful, it's like a family album, when I was growing up in the 70s.

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James looking particularly happy there. Sean looks miserable on

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every one of them. LAUGHTER

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You've put them all in a book. Polaroids are great. I bought them

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for my kids for a present. Because they're so immediate. Yeah. They're

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magic. I thought in the 70s it was like a magic trick when my mum and

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dad first had them, watching them develop in front of your eyes.

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They're expensive. They are. I dread to think how much money it is.

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I like the way they age. Exactly. They deteriorate. The colours, like

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memories, they go kind of seep yand blur. While -- Sepia and blur.

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have the yolks in there. Tip in the cornflour, the dijon and I'll do

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the thyme for you. Whisk it together. Flour in one go? Yeah,

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and then beat it together. Smile! No! This is the impossible project

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film, it doesn't work. Because the Polaroid went bust, see. What's

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come in between is very difficult. Mustard as well. Polaroid went bust

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did they? These films are going for �50, �60. Have they started

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remaking them or is that a rumour? These are remade ones, they don't

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work. Unless you go like this and put them in the fridge for two

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hours and stuff. They do work, but it will be an impossible picture.

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What are you saying They're not proper film. That's not Polaroid

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film. But it will still work? It's going really well. You can get

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them to work but it takes a lot of effort. Whereas the old ones you

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just snapped. See the passion that comes out of him when he talk

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abouts this James keep whisking and I will add, we're making the

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custard. We've warmed the milk, a bit goes in first of all so it

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makes a paste, so it loosens it. The rest goes in. Whilst you're

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walking around I have a question for you. This is from Dan, "Are you

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still, do you still have an obsession for Hoovering as you

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mentioned last time you were on the show?" I'm just obsessed with

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cleanliness. Yeah, it's next to Godliness.

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Andy says "Are you doing any more solo projects?" You've both had a

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stint at solo in your time? preferred life in the band you know.

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When I was doing the solo thing I was late all the time. That's

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interesting. You went off and did the solo and you didn't enjoy it

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really. It's better being in the band? It's much more fun being the

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three of us. It really was. We had arguments every day and there was

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no-one to argue with. We started arguing with ourselves. So, second

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stage... They don't work. No. is starting to thicken. We cover it

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so it doesn't get a skin on it. All the hard work is done. The next bit,

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what makes these little tarts interesting, James, cut that in

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half down the middle then lay one piece on top of the other. Does

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stkpwhr does it work if you put it in the fridge? This is my blue

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period. Stick it in the fridge and see if it works. Now do it like a

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sausage roll. This way? Whichever way. We're going to break down...

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We're going to break don the puff pastry so it won't rise too much.

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If you cook puff pastry it does the vol-au-vent thing. What we do then

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is cut this into about 12 pieces. We'll just do three. Then James,

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next job, as we've got, that give it a press down like so, sprinkling

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of flour on there and there. Just roll them into a circle that's big

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enough to fit into our little baking dish. They can be random

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like that. Got you. Just do those two or we will fall off air. Andy

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says "Do you prefer small gigs or stadiums? I find small gigs

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completely nervewracking because you can see people. Whereas bigger

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gigs you can close your eyes and pretend. It's just a sieging mass.

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That's fine. Just squeeze that in. Just spoon custard into the middle

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of those. I should have got my hands cold before working with that

:26:28.:26:38.
:26:38.:26:39.

pastry. You've done a great job. You can see a bit more. I can just

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about see the image. The film is made by this lovely company and

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they're trying to bring it all together, unfortunately it's very,

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it's a bit of a lottery. Some of the pictures work and some don't?

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Yeah. This is what we get. Because we've squashed the pastry, it

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doesn't turn into a great big monster. To serve it, all we do

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with these, little bit of rocket on there. We have got a bit of chutney.

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Use whatever you want on this. Spoon, spoon, spoon... Louise has

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news for us. If you'd like to come over now. Thanks, we can reveal

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that Deja View year Annie Lennox was belting out this song was what

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year Peter? 1983. '83. I was right. year Peter? 1983. '83. I was right.

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Peter we have some e-mails coming in. What can you advise people who

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have lost businesses in the recession? I don't know why I'm

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laughing, because that's horrible. What advice can you give to people

:27:47.:27:54.

at the moment, maybe people who haven't lost it: It's really

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difficult. When the last recession happened, we didn't have the

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internet. The internet is a great resource to sell any product. You

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can almost buy and sell products without owning them. So start a

:28:05.:28:09.

business, think about it online and start again. But most important

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thing is don't give up. Don't give up. Learn from your experience.

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quick question, Terry says "Is the money next to you in the den real?"

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No. Isn't it? No, it's not real. I've always thought they're sitting

:28:26.:28:32.

there amongst all that money. Colour photo copied. Is it? Another

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dream destroyed. That's it. There's no more today. Thanks to our guests

:28:36.:28:41.

Tim Lovejoy, Louise Redknapp and chef Simon Rimmer's guests are Manic Street Preachers and Dragons' Den's Peter Jones. There's cooking, gadgeting, cocktailing and previewing the best of next week's TV.