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Dan Snow and Sian Williams visit the National Motor Museum in Beaulieu, where they get hands-on with some of the most luxurious and elegant cars ever made.

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Tonight we are celebrating 125 years of the motor car, everything


from this glamorous Mercedes worth �2 million to the fastest most


iconic vehicles ever, from the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu,


welcome to National Treasures Live. APPLAUSE. Good evening, welcome to


National Treasures Live from a beautiful setting in the heart of


the New Forest. It's gorgeous. This is Palace House, it's it's family


seat of the Montagus and Lord Montagu started what was to become


one of our largest and most important motoring collections.


This place is more than a petrolhead's dream. The cars give a


snapshot of life throughout the last century. Look at this one,


exclusive luxury of 1909 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost, considered by


many to be the the greatest car of its time and isn't it? Stunning.


Arguably its modern equivalent, the Ferrari Enzo, I spotted a man here


who would like to drive one. Absolutely, I would love one.


wouldn't fit the kids in, that's the problem. No back seat. To this


modest, no less exciting car of recent times, this is the Ford


Anglia and what's so exciting about this car. Harry Potter flew in it.


He did indeed. Well done, thank you guys. Tonight we will hear the


human stories behind these rather beautiful cars. We will see Sir


Malcolm Campbell's record-breaking Bluebird, his grandson himself a


motoring record-breaker, will explain why this place is so


special to his family. Also on the anniversary of his first murder, we


get exclusive access to the original police files on Jack the


Ripper and I have my work cut out trying to explain to Michael


Douglas why the Romans came here in the first place.


If you have any questions of your own for Dan about the Romans or


anything else, then do get in touch with us. Here is our e-mail address.


You can follow us on Twitter. We will put him on-the-spot later.


least favourite part of the show. We start 150 years ago before cars


even as old as this this one were a regular sight on our roads. Larry


Lamb heads back that way to look at how people entertained themselves


long before the days of the soap opera.


What I love about it's East End of London is around every corner


there's a hidden historical gem to discover. Just like here, near


Whitechaple. Behind this facade of five Victorian terrace houses lies


one of the city's best kept seek Ritz. Built -- secrets.


It's now one of our most important This is Wilton's Musical, the


oldest surviving musical in the world. It's a bit haunting coming


in here, it's shraoeubg a time -- it's like a time capsule. Takes you


back to what some would call the good old days.


Evolving from pub sing-a-longs from the 1860s the music hall was the


most popular entertainment of its day, a mixture of crowd-pleasing


songs, comedy and speciality acts, its legacy has been celebrated on


both film and television. Carol Zeidman is the chief tour guide at


Wilton's. What was it like when it was open in the 1860s? Very lively.


In John Wilton's day we have witness accounts there were 1300


people in here with extra chairs put in. Must have been on each


other's shoulders or something. must have been pretty packed.


Structurally it was much as you see now. It was the decorations that


were different. The walls were pale blue and salmon pink. The walls


were covered with mirrors. The balcony fronts were made of papier


mache reinforced with plaster. Of all the gas lights, the most


spectacular was a great big sunburner lamp and the whole thing


was covered in a solid mass of 27,000 pieces of richly polished


glass and feathers, spangles and spires. Who was the most famous act


ever billed here at Wilton's? was George Leybourne, Champagne


Charlie. He would sing his song Ladies and gentlemen,... Michael is


an author and chairman of ceremonies who believes that the


pop song has its roots in music hall. How important was music, did


it sort of achieve a style of its own? The songs themselves began to


reflect the lives of the people who were coming to the halls. It was


about the mother-in-law, and troubles with the wife. In the


earlier days there wasn'tle much of a chorus as we understand it and


the emphasis began to move from the verses to the choruses. Where


everybody joined in. The rather more jolly style of song began to


emerge. There were thousands of songs


written to feed this thirst and hunger for this kind of song, which


reflected work and family life. What would you say were the overall


causes of the demise of the music hall? It all actually got a bit


tedious after 30 or 40 years. It tended to be the same subjects time


after time. The other thing was the influence of American music which


was so much more sophisticated. Unfortunately, now the decline of


the music hall era is mirrored in the decline of these buildings.


What fuels your sort of enthusiasm for preserving halls like this?


Well, there isn't another hall like this and it's also the music hall


that had the first performance of the can-can, which is a good enough


reason to preserve it. Old time music halls were like the careers


of the stars in them, brilliant but brief. They're now a part of our


entertainment heritage, not just historical monuments and some of


them like Wilton's are working museums so we should cherish them


while we can because that is show show business.


Certainly is, isn't it. Good old days. A great show, ran for 30


years. It was and a treat for me because I was a boy who never


really had been to the theatre, so to see the audience watching that


stuff that my Gran grew up on, the songs she taught me, it was a treat.


You remember the good old days? Yeah? You see, long memories and


your granny was a huge fan? She was a Marie Lloyd fan, she was her


favourite. I am going to take you to your own good old days if you


don't mind, because this is a huge collection of cars, we know you


like your cars and we found this. 1938 Morris 8. Why do you know this


in particular? Because this was actually my first car, not this


model, I have to say, but this was the first car I ever owned. Was it


really? My key to freedom, yeah. How much was it, can you remember?


I do, pfs -- it was �29. -- �39 but it represented a lot of money to me,


it was all the money I used to earn the weekends working on a market


stall but I had to have a car. I passed my driving licence as soon


as I could. I went out and almost lost it immediately. You are happy


in it now. Don't go anywhere but you can sit there. The smell is


wonderful. From Larry's first car to one of the earliest surviving


vehicles to drive on the roads of Britain now.


I am in Heaven. Look at this. This is the Grenville steam carriage. It


looks like a steam locomotive engine and smells like it, trust me


on this one, and sounds like one. Instead of running on tracks, it


runs on wheels, on the road. Revolutionary. Victorian roads were


full of horses and carts and bicycles and everything so


parliament in a bout of health and safety enthusiasm insisted a law


was passed where you had to wave a red flag and a maximum speed limit


was 4mph in the countryside, twomph in the city. That's pointless,


isn't it. We are going slowly. pretty slow. In having this car,


the British motoring industry it didn't really take off. In Germany,


though, no such health and safety laws and a man called Karl Benz


came up with this, this is really the father of all modern cars. It's


got a engine, runs on gas gasoline. Not for the last time, German cars


dominating the British market. Not this one, though. This British


car, I think, outshone them all, a beautiful Rolls Royce. While cars


were still a rare sight on the streets of London in the 1880s


something more sinister was grabbing the headlines. It's 123


years to the very day since Jack the Ripper claimed his first victim.


Forensic anthropologist Zanthey Mallet has been given exclusive


access to the original files. He emerged from the shadows in 1888,


watch watching stalking, the autumn of terror had begun. Over the neck


three months Jack the Ripper murdered five women in Whitechaple,


slitting their throats and mutilating their bodies. Then


Britain's most famous serial killer melted back into the shadows, his


real identity never revealed. But now, more than a century on, with


the help of a top murder detective I hope to unveil his true face.


Despite the intervening 123 years, this case is very much alive. In


that time over 200 suspects have been named, from royalty and


artists to Queen Victoria's own surgeon Sir William Gull. This list


of suspects continues to lengthen because of the incredible trerb


trove of original documents and it's some of these that the London


Metropolitan archives have given me privileged access to. As a forensic


anthropologist I have looked at cold cases before but to get a


chance to review the most famous cold case ever is very exciting. At


the time the police and newspapers received many letters supposedly


from the killer. OK, this one is a postcode and it's made out to the


city of London police and it's actually stamped with the 4th


February 1889 and it says: Dear boss, be on the look out as I am


coming to visit. It's signed Jack the Ripper. I am actually allowed


to take this one out: Dear boss, the police will not get me. They


think they will. I hope they do. I will rip some more up soon. Jack


the Ripper. I am hopeful the clues to unlocking


his identity are lurking somewhere inside these very documents. I have


asked ex-murder squad detective Trevor Maret, an expert on the


archives, to explain his latest theories. What can we pull out of


these letters that may be relevant to this investigation? I think one


thing you should look at is one letter that refers to the removal


of organs. I like to find them nice parts. What is the relevance of


body parts? For a time the police believed that the killer could have


possibly been a surgeon because these organs that were removed from


the victims were apparently removed by someone with some anatomical


knowledge. Trevor believes this isn't necessarily the case.


anatomy kwrabgt abelieved doctors and medical students to go to


mortuaries and freely take organs for research purposes. The idea


that someone else had taken the body parts seems to be borne out by


documents relating to the fourth victim, Catherine Edows. If you


look at the inquest report and the time of the PC who found the body,


he went into the square at about 1.30 and then says at about 1.44 he


came back and found the body of Catherine in darkest part of the


square. That leaves less than 14 minutes and clearly, in my


estimatation, that's not sufficiently long enough for


someone to kill somebody, to mutilate their body, to then remove


a uterus and kidney in almost total darkness with what was described as


Trevor began to focus on the records of travellers.


investigation turned towards the a German seaman employed by a German


fleet. They had vessels in London on all the dates of the murders bar


one. Why is he your top suspect? was arrested and executed in New


York for a ripper-like murder and he suffered from a diseasey so


often manifested itself and forced him to kill and mutilate women. So


putting together with all the other things in connection with the man,


must make him one of the top suspects. No picture of him exists.


So Trevor has put together an e-fit. We may be looking at the face of


Jack the Ripper? Yes it is a possibility. At the moment, it is


just a theory. But it is chilling to think we could finally be


looking at the word's most infamous serial killer. It is amazing we are


still talking about this almost 125 years later. Now, have a look at


these cars. There is a bit of history in each one. This is the


car that started it all. A 1903 deDion Boutin. You like it. It is a


beauty. You with tpwhro horn if you want. Promise? Yes. It does have


history. It has been in the Montagu family for 100 years and it was the


car that started the collection F I take you inside and tell you more


about it. Nearly 60 years ago, the current Lord Montagu opened the


doors of this house to the public and invited them to see his car


collection. And the collection was housed in the museum. And this is


the start of the museum. Here? Interesting place for a museum.


might think so. A beautiful hall. It is the front hall. It was a bill


yard room. There were five cars in here. And if we look at it in 1952


it was a squash to be honest. There were five cars here and then Lord


Montagu decided hef going to expand the collection. He was doing it for


his father. His father was a motoring pioneer. It is in the


family? Yes. He moved the cars. Hello! To the pantry and the


kitchen. And it smelled so badly of oil, the women said it is us or the


cars. Come and clean this up again. So he took the cars outside and


that is how it started. 250 cars later. Kept the cars and kept the


wife. Yes. Well done. Now Dan is with a personal with a connection


to the cars. We have come into the main collection. This is one of the


most incredible collections anywhere. We have everything from


the model. The Ford and the thing I'm most excited about are some of


the fastest British cars produced. This was christened the Bluebird.


What is the story behind this name? My grandfather had a series of nick


names for the cars mp one day he was a play called the Bluebird of


happiness and bought tin of blue paint and painted the car blue and


christened it Bluebird and won his first race. It became his Bluebird


of happy ps. Here is footage of it breaking the record. In those days


he did 125mph. All these cars followed it, break records. We have


the Sunbeam and these are not your family vehicles? No, but my


grandfather had a great British battle in the 20s and 30s to be the


fastest man in the world. It is a shame that sea grave was killed.


Your uncle Don cap bell got the record in this beast. Another


Bluebird. What is the difference in horsepower? This is a massive 4,100


horsepower, the other was 350. You needed to get that speed. That was


the record, in 1964. This is quicker than the McLaren F1 there?


Yes it is the fastest car built by a Briton. It is more powerful.


have set records with electric cars. What is going on with your family?


It is something my grandfather started and this thr is this


wanting to go fast and we have got it. Good luck. I expect to come


back in a few years and see Morecambe bell cars lined up.


hope to have an electric car that can do 500mph. Good luck. Yes good


luck to dorn. Now Dan and Michael have been raying around in their


own special vehicle, -- racing around in their own vehicle. But it


won't break any record. After last week's visit to Preston, Dan pushed


it too far. It didn't like that hill. # If you leave me now # You


take away the biggest part of me! Please don't go # I just want you


to stay! It will take more Nan a broken van to keep those boys down.


They're heading north in search of the Romans. Well the van's gone. It


blew up. Michael's gone to get me another one. Here he is. Oh you


have got to be kidding. Is this a joke? She is called Dougall. This


is rubbish. You broke the other one with your massive feet. Where are


we going? One of my fundamental periods of history. The Romans. The


first people who came here and left any written record and left a lot


of archaeology and this is an incredible site. Look at it. Yeah


it is incredible. What will we find? We could find wood. That is


treasure. Roman wood. No gold? Do we learn anything from these


digs. Are they worth it. Or do you just find the same stuff? Possibly


the highlight of the site is the tower. There is not much of it left.


There is none of it left. There is the found weigh. If you were Italy,


why would you come here? It is freezing! The weather's rubbish.


Michael wants to know why they came here. It is a difficult question.


It is one of the biggest questions in history, why do people invade


other lands. If I show him some of the remains that has survived 2,000


years, maybe he will get a sense of what Roman Britain was about.


surprised they bit it so close to a met way. The old road was behind


there. The amount of times I heard the Romans gave us the roads.


Before then we didn't go anywhere. We couldn't get past a tree. What


is the deal with Romans and roads? The Romans... Come on! They made


incredible roads that survive to the present and for 2,000 years


almost remained usable. Finding a bit of bone or a pebble. I want to


find body, a man with an axe or gold. I'm not interested in every


pebble, but I see family that have come to a hostile land and tried to


survive and protect themselves. This is a human story. If you put


it like that. Why didn't you say that at the beginning? Out of all


of Britain this is the most Roman bit? Out of north of Britain it is


the most important Roman place, yes. It is nothing to do with the Romans.


But it was the site of power here. It could have been cool. This is


the Roman Emperor Billy Connolly Constantine. He declared -- the


Roman emp or the Constantine. He declared he was the efrpl erEmperor


of all Rome. I still don't know why you could come here. We should head


north and you may change your mind. How is this van faring? Better than


you one you broke. There is Hadrian's wall. It is only two foot


high. Look at it. You could jump over that. We're getting close to


one of the great sites of the briel. This is called House Steads. That


is an archaeology site. That is the best thing you have shown me.


the wall was attacked, they could respond to any attack. You know I'm


Scottish. Mad people like you. is this? You see this looks like a


jumbled pile of rocks. But it is a hospital built to lack after the


guys. Kitchen here obviously. Under floor heating. Central heating.


Crystal Maze. Look at this, the highlight. Look at these what


treens. -- lat Reens. Why did they come here? They came because of the


age old reasons for prestige, to show they were the great e and to


pillage the land, there were slaifrs here, good agricultural --


slaves here and good agricultural land and for all these reasons. You


think about our guys in Afghanistan today, they're in fortified camps


serving miles from home in a hostile land. That is what is


exciting about history. These buildings change, the landscapes


change, but the human beings in them don't change. They're just the


same? Yes. It is amazing. Nice new wheels. I like Dougall. It is the


lesser of two evils. I know it is an interest to you, the romance.


Are there any specific foods stuffs that the romance brought with them


that have stayed on through the time? Larry. That is a difficult


one. The Romans brought everything. It was the first era of


globalization. And when they left, that trade got shut off. We went


back to eating what we had here. So nothing. What about wines? Would


wines have been here? Yes they brought wines. And planted vines.


Yes. He knows a lot. Get a tweet in. How effective was the wall at


keeping out the Scottish? effective enough! Terrible. It was


effective. But it was about stationing troops that could attack


over the wall and they were aggressive themselves. They did


well. If you want to find out more, head to our web-site. There are


activities you can do. You make a Roman Villa out of card board. And


the web-site address I on screen. And later Larry is in who do you


Dan Snow and Sian Williams visit the National Motor Museum in Beaulieu. They get hands-on with some of the most luxurious and elegant cars ever made, whilst special guest Larry Lamb takes a trip down memory lane with a visit to the world's oldest surviving music hall.

Also, Xanthe Mallett explores the incredible treasure trove of surviving documents from the original police investigation into Jack the Ripper.

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