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Across the country, empty properties that could be homes

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are waiting to be brought back into use.

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I'll be finding out why and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself.

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And I'll be doing some digging of my own to find out more

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about our housing stock,

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our heritage and why we should both be reinventing and preserving Britain's empty homes.

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When it comes to property hunting,

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I think it is fair to say most of us are looking for a bargain.

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One way to achieve this is to seek an empty property and renovate it.

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Of course, that takes hard work and careful budgeting,

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and it's not really just about saving money,

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it's also about saving a piece of history.

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You could revitalise a home for many years to come.

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'On today's show, I'll be meeting a pair of novice renovators

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'who have taken a leap of faith with a building they love.'

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Wow!

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It's huge, and quite a challenge.

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Some people are scared by these big open spaces.

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'I'll be showing them a finished church with all the mod cons.'

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Now, that is thinking outside the box!

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And we'll be following the property detectives

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who track down the owners of forgotten homes and bring the buildings back to life.

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Somebody has tried to take the copper piping.

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The ceiling has obviously come down as they've ripped the piping out.

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When Diana Christie and her electrician partner Rowley Belcher

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set eyes on this 20th century Roman Catholic church in Guildford, Surrey,

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it was love at first sight.

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When we saw the church, it was just beautiful.

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It's white, it's a lovely design.

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It's a huge empty hall with beautiful light coming through the windows.

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We went up to the balcony upstairs

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and we just looked across the expanse of the church

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and we were just blown away by it, weren't we?

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Beautiful on the outside and beautiful on the inside.

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It was a no-brainer to have a go.

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I just hope we've made the right decision.

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Having lain empty for five years, when it was put up for auction,

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there was its usual amount of interest from the local community.

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Half of Surrey wanted the property.

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It was really of interest to lots of people.

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But we thought we'd offer the full price before it went to auction

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so we could be sure of getting it.

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Diana and Rowley were so eager to have the church,

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they bought it without planning permission.

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One of our biggest concerns is that we have to get change of use for the property.

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We are concerned that if we don't get that, we'll have to move

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to plan B, and we will have to think of what plan B will be.

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The couple are moving into rented accommodation until they obtain planning permission,

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then they intend to live on a caravan on site once the build begins.

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The huge opportunity to create something wonderful

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out of a structure that is already there is amazing.

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We've just got a clean canvas to paint a picture on

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that we want to paint.

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There's no question, we just have to do this.

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I've come to Guildford to meet Diana and Rowley to find out more about their plans.

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-Hi, guys. I'm Joe.

-Rowland.

-Diana, how are you?

-Hi, Joe.

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Loads to talk about. I can't wait to see the space.

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-Let's pop inside, shall we?

-Let's, yes.

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The couple spent £495,000 on the building

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and plan to spend 150,000 on the renovations.

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Wow.

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It's huge. I can almost hear the echo.

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It is an unusual building. Quite a challenge.

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Some people are really scared by these big open spaces.

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What attracted you to this place?

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Buildings have to have a wow factor, don't they?

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And this has a wow factor without even doing anything to it.

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So, we just wondered through the door and it was wow,

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and then it was, oh, what have we done?

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-Yes, there's the wow factor and then there's the challenge.

-Yes, it is so huge

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and it's a big opportunity but it's also a big risk for us, too.

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'The plan is for the church to become a five bedroom home,

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'large enough for Diana's two grown-up sons to come and stay.

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'The couple also hope to add a mezzanine level

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to maximise the extensive headroom.

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The only downside to that is where we place it, in terms of the windows

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so that we've got enough headroom above.

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It might mean breaking the windows at some point.

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That's a really tricky one.

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The windows have got these lovely stone frames to them,

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they're an original feature.

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We wouldn't change that, but it's just doing it sympathetically.

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Exactly. That's quite a challenge.

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So, the big issue is planning, I suppose.

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It's quite scary to think about what we would need to do

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if we don't get change of use, and it IS a big gamble.

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-One you're aware of.

-Absolutely aware.

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That's what keeps me awake at night.

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While they wait to hear from the council,

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Diana and Rowley are optimistically developing their plans

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to turn the church into a home.

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The downstairs will remain open plan

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and become a large family living area with electrician Rowley

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doing a lot of the work himself

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to make the most of their modest budget.

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Right, this is the business end of the church.

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Plenty of original features - you've got the altar, you've got the stained-glass window.

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And two rooms off either side. What would these have been?

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This was where they did all the baptisms and at the other side was the confessional.

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So, if you've got anything you want to tell us, you can tell us in there.

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Will you use these rooms? Obviously, you will.

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The initial idea is to have that side for the kitchen

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and the other side, possibly as a formal lounge

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or somewhere we can relax in.

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So, the only bit we haven't seen is upstairs.

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I suppose, if we go up to the mezzanine there, is that an organ loft?

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It used to be the organ. They didn't leave it behind.

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-OK.

-I'd have loved to...

-No tinkling!

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-But we can get a sense of what it's like to be on a first floor.

-Yes.

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OK, let's go up there.

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Right.

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Actually, this is really useful

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to visualise the height of the building.

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It feels great up here. It feels like you've got plenty of headroom.

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So, you know a mezzanine floor can fit in, for a start.

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And this works perfectly, doesn't it?

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Your side windows might not do you favours

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-but from being up here now, you know this works really well.

-Yeah.

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We envisage this being the main bedroom,

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one of the master bedrooms.

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And the mezzanine floor gives you a good idea of where that might fall

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to make use of the space.

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But it also makes it real to see how big the building is.

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-Yeah, exactly.

-It's huge.

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To help you with this, later, we're going to see a similar property

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that's been through all sorts of planning complications and battles.

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I think it's a really good example for you to look at.

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But also, I want you to meet the guy who has been through it.

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He is you a couple of years down the line, so hopefully,

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he'll have really useful tips and some practical advice for you.

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Fantastic. We're really looking forward to meeting somebody

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who's done what we'll be doing in the future.

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And to know that he survived the experience and lived another day.

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Yes. A positive outlook there, as well.

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Well, the church is a stunning space.

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You can see why Diana and Rowland were captivated by it.

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A really exciting project from that point of view and I think

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the guy we're going to meet later might just have a few wise words.

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Across Britain, there are many places like this

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just waiting to be discovered and brought back to life.

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When you notice an empty property, you often ask yourself,

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Why is it abandoned? How long has it been like that? And who are the owners?

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Well, it's the job of empty property officers to answer those questions

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and more importantly,

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to oversee the process of bringing neglected homes back into use.

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Sue Lee is the empty property officer

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for Amber Valley, where she deals with over 1,000 empty homes.

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When I see a really dilapidated empty property, I like to see potential -

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potential for the owner, potential for a family home,

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potential to improve the appearance for the local community.

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Today, Sue is on her way to an unusual case,

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a new-build home that was nearing completion when its owner

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fell into financial difficulties and abandoned the project.

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Since it was left empty, Sue has managed to track down the owner

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and has been working with him to get the home finished and lived in.

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So, I'm here today to see if the owner has actually done

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what he said he will do.

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This will be the moment of truth. If not,

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I'm going to have to get a bit tougher with him.

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After a quick survey of the front of the property,

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first impressions aren't very encouraging.

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Well, the owner has done bit and bobs I've asked for.

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But there's still the more difficult things that are outstanding.

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Covering up a smashed window. Putting the downpipe in there.

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And the guttering over there that is still smashed.

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-Does it attract any problems at all to the area?

-Well, certainly.

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It's effecting the value of all the properties in the area.

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Myself, I've had the house on the market before and people were just driving away.

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Also, we've had vagrants.

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Youths with rolled up sleeping bags.

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So, it has attracted quite a lot of problems over the last few years,

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yes, yes.

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Unhappy with the progress and determined to get this

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wasted home lived in, it's time for Sue to get tough.

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What I need to see from the owner is that there is a time-bound plan

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to do the work that I've asked.

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Sue has now spoken to the owner who is also keen to get

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the property lived in and has agreed to carry out the necessary works.

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Finding an empty home in the right location at the right price

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can be just the beginning of a long and arduous journey

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but with a good amount of imagination and hard graft,

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really, anything is possible.

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Back in 2003, retired businessmen John Hondle

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was looking for a renovation project to put his heart and soul into.

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When he saw this Grade II listed Georgian manor house

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with stunning views over Warwickshire, it ticked every box.

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The house was originally built in 1792 for a local dignitary.

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It was empty for two years

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before John fell in love with its antiquated charm.

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When we first viewed the house, it was pretty horrific.

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Very, very neglected.

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But that's exactly what we were looking for.

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John paid £930,000 and had a budget of 500,000

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to spend on this ambitious restoration.

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The beauty of it, as a challenge,

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is that although it had been badly neglected,

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it was clear that there were still many significant features there

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such as the wood paddling in the dining room, the chandeliers,

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the ceiling roses, etc,

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it had obviously been a very, very beautiful house in the past.

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We tried to retain as many of those features as we could

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but tried to wean it off the 19th century and into the 21st century.

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For John, this restoration is an ever evolving process.

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You don't have to think of a project like this as having

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a beginning, a middle and an end, it's ongoing.

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There's always something to do in a house like this.

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There is always a little improvement that you can make.

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But it's great, it keeps you interested

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and the more you do,

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the more you wrap the house around your own character

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and your own being and the more it becomes a part of you,

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and that's wonderful.

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After six years of hard work,

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John is now enjoying the fruits of his labour.

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I love all the rooms, I love every part of this house,

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I guess my favourite is the master bedroom.

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A 30-mile view over to Birmingham and Worcester beyond. Wonderful.

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And it looks like John has got the restoration bug.

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Would I do a similar project again? For sure.

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Across rural Britain,

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there are hundreds of remote buildings lying empty and abandoned,

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many, the relics of a different age in British farming,

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a reminder of where people lived and worked the land.

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Today, I've come to the Brecon Beacons National Park in Wales

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to meet a couple who are looking to take their passion

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for rescuing derelict buildings

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and preserving local architecture to a whole new level.

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Roger Mears and Joanie Speers are husband-and-wife founders of

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a new building preservation trust, Adfer Ban a Chwm, or ABC for short.

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Concerned with the lack of housing for young people in the area and

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intent on preserving traditional agricultural buildings,

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they've come up with a radical solution that will both

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rescue these beautiful structures and help ease the housing crisis.

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These buildings are here for the time being

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but they're not going to last for ever.

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Once they are gone, they are gone.

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It's getting to last hours on so many of them, we've got to get them now.

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And how involved are the community in that process?

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Is this you coming in with a couple of builders you've sourced

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or is it a bigger process than that?

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No, no, it's very much bringing the community with us.

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Our first meeting,

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was on April 1 two years ago.

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-No joke.

-Middle of lambing season, no joke,

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middle of lambing season, farmers are lambing -

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we haven't got time to do anything else! 50 people turned up.

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-That's a small community, so that's pretty good.

-Half the community.

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In a world where so many developments are developer led,

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how are you different to that?

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At the end of the day, when we finish repairing the building,

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we're going to pass it on to a housing association

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who will manage it and keep it within the affordable market.

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But we're going to have to raise more money than we're going to get at the end of the day

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and that's where the conservation gap or the funding gap is,

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-and that's the real challenge.

-And that's why you're a charity.

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You're not developers, you're going to do this at huge cost,

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which you have to raise, and then sell it at another huge cost,

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you lose money on it, it's not a money-spinner in any sense.

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But you passionately believe it's worth it

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for the legacy that these buildings can bring?

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We believe that the time spent in this should really repay itself...

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-Over time.

-..of people actually being able to stay within the community

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and live in buildings that their forbears lived in. It's wonderful.

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A daunting challenge but let's finish with some good news

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because you have had some encouragement with your funding applications?

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Yes, we've just heard a couple of days ago

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that the Brecon Beacons National Park Sustainable Development Fund

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is wanting to support us and will support us.

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This will be subject to our being successful with a really big bid

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that we put into the Heritage Lottery Fund which we'll hear about in a few weeks.

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Wish you the best of luck. It's a very brave thing to do but ultimately,

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a very worthwhile thing, as well.

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-So, really, good luck.

-Thanks.

-Thank you very much.

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I've got great admiration for Roger and Joanie's determination

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to change the fortunes of buildings like this.

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Really heart-warming to think it could once again be a family home.

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And yes, of course, it's an extremely long term aim

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but if anyone's got the passion

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to change that vision into a fantastic reality,

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I think it might just be them.

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Earlier, I met Diana Christie

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and Rowley Belcher who bought an empty church in Guildford

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with the hope of turning it into a family home.

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With lots of renovation and planning questions on their mind,

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I'm taking them to meet a man who realised his dream

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and turned a forgotten church into it quirky, modern bachelor pad.

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Well, guys, this is it.

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-First impressions, quite a match, huh?

-Wow.

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Angel Guerrero picked up this 200-year-old empty church

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ten years ago for £160,000.

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When this real-life guardian angel first opened the church's doors,

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it was dark, dank and desperately in need of someone with vision

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and drive to bring it back to life.

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When I originally got the place, I was told it had been empty for about nine years.

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It looked like a spooky old building from one of those horror movies and

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I thought, wow, this is lovely, you could really do something with this.

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And the good thing is four solid walls, the roof needed

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a little bit of work and the rest is what you wanted to make of it.

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I thought, wow, knock everything out and just start from a big empty space.

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Former car salesman Angel had no experience of property renovation

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but was up for the challenge

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and completed the entire build by himself,

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hiring in manual labourers only to help him with the heavy lifting.

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To do the floating platform, that was, I think, the biggest challenge.

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I've got four steel beams that I had to bring in through the front door

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and they weigh about two tons each.

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So, with trolley jacks,

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a little winch and stuff,

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we brought them in.

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And then, to lift them up, that was another feat in itself.

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But we got there in the end.

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The entire renovation took him eight years to complete.

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Nothing is rocket science in the building trade.

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It's just, er, finding out how to do stuff on the internet

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and working out how to make it.

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But doing it himself meant he saved thousands of pounds

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that he would have spent on tradesmen.

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The staircase I was quoted £14,000 for.

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I ended up buying the wood, I think the wood came to about £360

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and it worked out well.

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And starting afresh gave Angel

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the freedom to let his imagination run wild.

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I just love making things that are weird and wonderful and different.

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It's not something that you can do in a normal house.

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The result is a bespoke, fun living space,

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completely unique to its owner.

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After all this hard work,

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it's an amazing place to come home to at night.

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It feels like home.

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It's taken a long time to get to feel like home

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but it's there now and I love the place.

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Angel worked alongside an officer from English Heritage

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to safeguard the original features of the church,

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preserving the exterior that dates back to 1837.

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Inside, he's married the old with the new,

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introducing a floating platform,

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installing multicoloured fluorescent lighting and making the most of

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the ample headroom to showcase his vintage motorbike collection.

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Come through and see this.

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Wow-wee!

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This is amazing.

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Isn't it something. Step into this space, see how it feels.

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Including the bike.

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Bikes, kitchens, altars, it is amazing, isn't it?

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Crikey. It certainly is.

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Dare we touch on the dreaded subject of planning?

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The biggest problem is every time I put plans in,

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they would take nine months to say no.

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How did you get around that? Is there any practical advice,

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in terms of trying to make the planning application process

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as efficient as possible, from your side of things?

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You've got, I think, eight weeks before you can put in an appeal.

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The day after, I'd put in an appeal. I wouldn't even wait two days.

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So, if you haven't heard, you're saying,

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challenge the process slightly by putting the appeal in to make it maybe rise up the priority list?

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Go in and see them, have a chat with them. That's the best way.

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One of Angel's major planning achievements was being granted

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permission to change the stained glass for clear panels

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and to glaze a section of roof, allowing natural light

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to stream into the building for the first time.

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The amount of light you get in here, it must be a joy.

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Yeah, it is, it's lovely.

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So, how does it feel when you're cooking and looking out on that?

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It's great. It's an inspiration to do more cooking.

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On the practical side of things, how do you stop a whole church

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steaming up when you make pasta or something?

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Well, it's quite simple.

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You just flick the switch and the extractor comes up.

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Now, that's thinking outside the box.

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That's really clever. It shows you, as well,

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you're going to come up against all sorts of problems

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but you don't have to suddenly think, I've got to have a big extractor.

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You can find a solution. It's a good time to be doing this.

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There's a lot of technology that can help you

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get out of some tricky situations.

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And it's also a good use of the time spent waiting for planning,

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you can start researching the detail of what you want to do.

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I think we've learned from this kitchen - bold and modern

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can actually accentuate the old gothic style

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so I think that's something to bear in mind, especially with the style of your building.

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-Great. Shall we see some more?

-Yeah.

-Come on, then.

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Upstairs, the floating platform becomes Angel's main living area,

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complete with glass balconies to maximise the light

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and views of his grand refurbishment.

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Next door is one of four bedrooms he's created.

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-Right, so, I guess this is the master bedroom, is it?

-Yeah.

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My eye is immediately drawn to this. We've talked a bit about windows

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-but this is an example of where you had to cut the window in half?

-Yeah.

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I didn't have any options, really, to make the four bedrooms.

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I didn't want to cut any more windows than I had to so, two had to go.

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And from the outside, I made it look as narrow as possible,

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the cut, so the floor tapers to the end.

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As you get to the window, it goes down to about six inches and then,

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there's a stained glass window on the outside to disguise that, as well.

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-That's a good tip.

-A really good idea.

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Your windows are a little... well, a lot higher than ours but that's a really good way around it.

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These guys have it all ahead of them.

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Looking back on what you've been through,

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any kind of last advice you'd like to impart their way?

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Well, the lovely thing is you've got a blank canvas,

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you can let your mind run wild, you can do anything and everything.

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It's just coming up with ideas, so just keep on top

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and carry on going.

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We're really looking forward to it.

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Thank you for letting us see your lovely home.

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Pleasure.

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Back in Amber Valley, empty property officer Sue Lee

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is on a mission to save Britain's abandoned homes.

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She's on her way is to an affluent area outside of Derby

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to respond to complaints about an empty house.

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The empty has been on Sue's radar for five years

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but this is the first time she's received official complaints.

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I can see why the neighbours

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are concerned about the garden looking overgrown at the front.

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It just all adds to the view that it's not cared for,

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that nobody's been here for a while

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and that nobody's trying to maintain it.

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Sue's main objective is to check if the place is secure.

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Oh, gosh.

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I thought for one minute that was going to open.

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It must be locked at the top.

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But it's at the other side of the house

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that Sue discovers something of far greater concern.

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There's a window that has been smashed here.

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The back door is open so you can just wander straight into the house.

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As Sue continues to explore,

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it seems that whoever has broken in has not left empty-handed.

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Oh. Right. It looks like...

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..somebody has tried to take the copper piping at some point.

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The ceiling's come down as they've ripped the piping out.

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Because there are pipes still remaining,

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I really need to get this property secured and get that window bordered

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so there's no access again into the house.

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Having completed her investigation, Sue needs to decide

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on the best plan of action to make the house secure and to get it back into use again.

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What I need to do is go back to the owner,

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get them to secure the property,

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tidy it up,

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make it look a lot better in the interim

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before they bring it back into use.

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If the owner doesn't do what I ask voluntarily,

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then I'll be serving legal notices.

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If they don't comply with those, we'll do the work ourselves

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and we'll recharge that back to the owner.

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If the owner doesn't pay that, we'll be enforcing sale of it.

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Back in Surrey, Diana and Rowley

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have been visiting a converted church,

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getting inspiration for their own project.

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Ah! Well, today, that's quite a property to look around, isn't it?

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How has it been for you? Have you found it inspiring?

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It's been absolutely amazing, a wonderful experience.

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Seeing what can be done

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and the fact that he's done most of it himself is amazing.

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So, it's a hard act to follow but lots and lots of good advice.

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And with planning, it is going to be a battle for you but he is saying

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you can have the perfect home at the end of it if you do it right.

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I think that the buildings that he has and that we have

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are special buildings so, it's worth waiting for.

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So, we're prepared to wait and take as long as it needs.

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Guys, I wish you the best of luck from the bottom of my heart.

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-I'm sure you will do a great job. Hang in there.

-Thank you.

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Well, it's been delightful to show Diana and Rowland

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this incredibly unique place.

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Hopefully, it's going to help them overcome some of the big problems they face,

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namely, how you create and live on two floors in a building really only ever designed for one.

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Now, of course, it's going to take some careful planning

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and lots of hard work to get permission to change their church into a residential dwelling

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but fingers crossed they can get through that soon

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and quickly begin work

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on the home they desperately want to create together.

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