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Across the country, empty properties that could be homes | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
are just waiting to be brought back into use. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
I'll be finding out why, and what you need to do to rescue a house for yourself. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:13 | |
We'll be following the Empty Property Officers | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
whose job it is to track down the owners of these forgotten homes | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
and get them brought back into use. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
And I'll be doing some digging of my own | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
to find out more about our heritage, our housing stock, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
and why we should be both preserving and re-inventing Britain's empty homes. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
On today's show, a couple taking on a run-down period cottage | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
ins the Shropshire countryside. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
That's incredibly bold. I know. May I say? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
I think it's a mid-life crisis! | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
The regeneration of a forgotten malt house in Staffordshire. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
We're going to preserve this building going into the future for many years. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
So it's great to give it a new, proper lease of life. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
And one of Britain's Empty Property Officers | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
who's on a mission to bring empty properties in Kent back into use. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
It's been a few years since anything was carried out on this property. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
It's such a shame! | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
It could be a lovely family home. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
When Ian and Eleanor Usher were searching for their dream home, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
they never envisaged they'd end up taking on a complete renovation project. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
But they've done just that, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
having recently bought a dilapidated three-bedroomed period cottage in rural Shropshire. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
It's got no central heating. We're going to be freezing. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
It's got a downstairs toilet. That's not going to be very convenient, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
and the kitchen's horrible! | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Yeah, in lots of ways, it didn't tick any boxes that we'd decided on! | 0:01:42 | 0:01:49 | |
"When we move, we're going to have a beautiful four-bed detached house | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
"with a wonderful kitchen." | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
We've got a long kitchen! Yeah! But we're working on it. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
But we did come away feeling like, "We can do this." | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
And positive, really. Really. Yeah. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
Nearly 100 years old, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
the cottage was built by the Duke of Sutherland | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
to house tenants on his estate. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
What we know about the history of the property is that it was built in 1915. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
It's a Duke of Sutherland house. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
It's had two previous owners. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
One owned it for 50 years, and I think he gave it to his son. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
And then the previous owner to us, he owned it for 48 years. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
But it's been, according to neighbours and the estate agent, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
it's been empty most of that time. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Ian and Eleanor won the property at auction for ?220,000. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
Forced to bid right up to their limit, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
they have nothing to spare for the renovation. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
We're going to do a lot of work ourselves. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
We've basically spent our money on the property. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
And so we're going to do it at a slower pace | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
to our own convenience. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Ian is a self-employed carpenter. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
They're hoping his DIY skills will save the day. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
Rather blase. "Oh, it's only like being at work!" | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
But since we've looked at it again, there's a lot to do here. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
The cottage comes with a substantial 150-foot garden, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
with a stream running along the boundary. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
However, there's a lot of hard work ahead | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
before it's an idyllic retreat. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
The estate agent opened up a tool store at the back of the property, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
so I grabbed a rake and I was hacking things down | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
trying to find where does the garden end? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
It's just massive, isn't it? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
We were finding sheds in amongst all the greenery out there. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
"There's a greenhouse in here!" | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
I was dead excited! | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
The couple are letting their current home | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
in order to buy the cottage. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
So despite the seriously run-down state of the place, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
they'll have to live in it whilst they do the work. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
We're going to be moving in straightaway. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Our two children are moving in with us. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
And I think it's going to be a pretty crazy adventure, really! | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
It's going to be quite exciting. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
I think we are... We're a bit concerned about the winter. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
Cos there is no central heating in here. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Apart from an Aga. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:14 | |
So we've said it's all onesies and hot water bottles, really. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
We're going to be wrapping up and walking around, wondering what we've done, probably! | 0:04:18 | 0:04:24 | |
Yeah. It will be fun. It will be fun. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
They've only just got the keys, and the reality of what lies ahead has started to sink in. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
Hopefully, I can help them with the next step. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
This is yours, now. You've won it at auction. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
How do you feel about it at this point? | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
Really excited, aren't we? Really excited. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
We can't wait to move in and just do stuff. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Let's go and see what you're moving in to, shall we? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
'The brick and tile cottage is structurally sound, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
'but, as a Duke of Sutherland property, it has its own set of unique challenges. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
'No insulation, no central heating, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
'and now there's damp in the bedrooms and the kitchen.' | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Wow, look at this. That's the first thing I'm drawn to as we come in. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Looks a bit old, bit of an antique? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
It is an antique, I think, but hopefully it'll work! | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Because between that and the two fires, that's the only heating here. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
OK. Interesting. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
Let's start at the beginning. This is a small room. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Talk me through the layout of this plan. I can see a tiny kitchen there. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Long, but very, very thin. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
It's described as a galley kitchen. It's like you get in a submarine! | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Amazing! | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
What state is this place in? What problems are you dealing with? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
I would suggest the roof, looking from the outside, is a bit wavy. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
So there's a few rafters that are a bit bent or rotten, and something needs... | 0:05:43 | 0:05:49 | |
I would think there's no felt, no insulation. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Do you know how you're going to transform this? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
I presume it's not right for you as it is. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
No, we don't know how we're going to transform it at the moment. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
It's a bit bewildering, really, you know. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
We're just going to live in it, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
We know it needs to change. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
We need to paint it and carpet it. And tidy it up and clean it. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
New clean. And then kind of take a breath. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
And work out what needs doing first, and prioritise it. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
So you are going to move into this place as is. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
Yeah. We're going to kind of bring it on! | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
That's how it goes. That's incredibly bold! | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
I know! | 0:06:29 | 0:06:30 | |
I think it's a mid-life crisis! | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
OK, I understand what you're dealing with down here. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
Shall we look upstairs? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
'Upstairs, it's clear that Ian's concern about the roof is justified. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
'Getting it sorted and water-tight is their first priority.' | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Immediately here I can see some of the challenges, I guess. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
Is this water coming through from the roof? | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
It looks like it is. We're going to have to take some of the boards off, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
strip this side down and investigate what's going on up there. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
That's an important job to get done sooner rather than later. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
Yeah. And you don't think there's any insulation there, or not much, anyway? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
I don't think there's any insulation in there. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
How much can you do yourselves here? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
The majority of the work is going to be OK. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
It's just obviously I need a hand with the sheer scale of the jobs. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
We'll work together and plan to get things done. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Rope the kids in as well, you know! | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Eleanor, are you practical? Can you work together as a team on this? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
No, I'm not! | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
I'll do whatever Ian asks me to do. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
I can lift and carry and stuff, and paint, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
but I can't cut in or... Fine. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
But you're in this together. You're not saying, "I can't manage this. Ian, you're on your own." | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
You'll be working as a team. Yes, I'll support Ian. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Is it quite daunting? It is a bit, to be fair. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
We're making light of it. We're in the position, so we've kind of got to make it happen. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:03 | |
OK. Let's continue having a look round, shall we? Yeah. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
'Looking at the amount of work in store, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
'it's understandable that Ian and Eleanor feel overwhelmed | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
'and a little bewildered by the scale of their project.' | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
The project is a big one. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
It's not a small place and it needs a lot doing to it. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
But I think it'll good for you to see another property that's had a full renovation, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
and it's a very good match, a very similar property. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
And also a similar couple! In some ways, it's a vision of the future. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
You are them a few years ago. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
You can see what they've done, and hopefully, there'll be some great advice on offer. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Sounds good? Great! Yeah. Excellent. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
It's really nice to meet a couple so excited about taking on an empty property. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
They really can't wait to get started. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
But because of that, I think they're putting a brave face on things. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
This is a huge project, full of problems. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
Therefore, it'll be great for them to meet a couple who've been through this before, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
they've taken on a property very similar to this, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
they've lived on site while renovating it, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
and they've done it on a very small budget. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
And that is the key here. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
So hopefully, they'll have some great advice. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
Sadly, not all of Britain's forgotten buildings | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
are rescued and brought back to life. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
But local councils are taking action, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
and it's the job of Empty Property Officers to track these buildings down | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
and work to bring them back into the community. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
Shepway Empty Property Officer Ian Cobby | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
is checking up on a three-bed semi-detached house | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
that's been empty for over seven years. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
This property has been a nightmare for many years now. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
I don't know what I'm going to find when I get here. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
The property is now overgrown. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
There's piles of rubbish | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
and it looks an eyesore. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
At the moment, there's not a lot we can do | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
until such time as probate has been granted on the property. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
The legal process of handing over ownership of a house | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
when a homeowner dies is called a grant of probate. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
It can often mean a building is left empty while the new owner is located | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
and the title transferred. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:17 | |
If someone hasn't left a will, the process can take a number of years. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
This house has attracted many complaints from neighbours, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
but Ian's been unable to get a resolution. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
It's such a shame. This has been a nice property in the past. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
As you can see, most of the window frames have rotted away. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Some of the hanging tiles are missing. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
Guttering is missing. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
It's been a few years since anything was carried out on this property. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
The garden is totally overgrown now. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
It could prove harbourage to rats and mice. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
It's such a shame. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
It could be a lovely family home. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Ian knocks on the door of a neighbour to see if he's seen people or pests at the house. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
Hello, Mr Cobby. Good afternoon, Malcolm. How are you? Very well, thank you. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
Come to sort next door out? Hopefully, yes. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
I was just about to ask you if you'd seen anything at all from anybody going in there? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:19 | |
Or any rats and mice that you've seen in the back garden at all. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
I've not seen anybody for six months now. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
I've seen a couple of rats, but that's what my cats have brought in. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
OK. Other than that, nothing. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
I'm going to have it test-baited, next door, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
just to see if there are any rats or mice. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Obviously I know your cats are probably controlling it, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
but I need evidence, obviously, before I can serve notice. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
Right. OK. Lovely. Thanks. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
No problem. Bye. Yep, all right. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Ian's next step is to find out who will be taking responsibility for the house. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
If probate hasn't moved forward, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
he'll have to serve a legal notice to get the garden cleared. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Ian calls the deceased owner's daughter to get an update. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
I'm just ringing you to ask you how it's going, probate-wise. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
It's good news. The daughter is now in a position to sell the house | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
and Ian doesn't need to serve notice. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
He goes back next door to give Malcolm the update. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Hello? Hello? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Got some good news. What's that? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
She can actually sell the property. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
So that looks pretty good news. Brilliant. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
So hang on in there! | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Yeah. Brilliant. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
I've been working on this property for seven years, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
and so this is a conclusion, a hopeful conclusion, at the moment. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
I can see a family moving into that within six months. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
If you've noticed abandoned properties in your area | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and fancy the challenge of taking one on, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
try contacting estate agents, neighbourhood watch groups and local shop owners | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
to see if they have any information. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Or get in touch with your local Empty Property Officer. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
In 2010, we visited Richard and Angela | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
while they were four years into their renovation. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Now, three years later, they've achieved a fantastic family home, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
but it's not been without its challenges. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
We were looking for something that needed some work | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
and we could put our own stamp on it. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
When we first saw the place, it had been empty for a while. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
It needed a lot of work. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Despite no experience, Richard planned and project managed the entire build himself, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
much to wife Angela's consternation! | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
My biggest issue was that I knew Richard wasn't a builder, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
had no history of building or interior design or designing. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:53 | |
He was a banker and I thought he should stick with what he knew best! | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
But immense enthusiasm. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
So we did clash on this | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
because I just thought, "This is not your field." | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
I was told two kind of rules to building or renovating. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
The first one I was told was to plan the build, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
and the second was to build to the plan. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
And a third one was later added, which was build to budget. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
Unfortunately, I didn't follow any of those rules, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
and I just went with whatever I thought was suitable at the time. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Richard didn't let Angela's lack of enthusiasm or his lack of know-how | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
get in the way of his grand designs to double the floor space | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
to 8,000 square feet. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
I actually wanted a swimming pool underneath the house. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
But I was persuaded by others that it's not such a great idea. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:49 | |
Probably better to put the pool in the garden and use the space for something else. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
So I've built a gymnasium and a wet room and a gym complex as such. | 0:14:54 | 0:15:01 | |
Which is fun! | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
I felt that I might not complete it on a couple of occasions. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
But doggedly just kind of continued. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
And, um, the best feeling of it all | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
was when it was completed | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and lying on a pool lounger, just looking up at it, and thinking, "It's nice that it's finished." | 0:15:19 | 0:15:26 | |
After eight years and a substantial amount of money and sacrifice, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
the family have achieved an astounding transformation. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
It's something that I visualised and thought it's exactly what we needed. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
And it is, I can't really fault it now. It's amazing. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
I'm really proud of it. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
I think the space is second to none, really. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Obviously I enjoy the kitchen. I'm in there all the time. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
It's a very sociable house. So for entertaining, anything like that, it's brilliant. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
I would do it again, yeah. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Probably bigger, though! | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
I don't know. I don't know, actually. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
But you didn't build it! No, I didn't, but I lived through it, and that's just as bad! | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
Empty buildings can blight an entire neighbourhood, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
so it's very much in the local community's interests to try and get the best out of them. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
But places that have been empty can be notoriously tricky to turn around. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
It often requires someone with a vision | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
and plenty of energy to get things going. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
There are over 16,000 empty buildings in Staffordshire. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
And many are remnants of the county's industrial heyday. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
The Maltings in the brewery town of Stone is one such building. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Derelict for decades, it's a local landmark | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
and is located on one of the town's busiest roads. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
But architect Carl Croft is determined it's worth saving. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
Carl, tell me about this building. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
It looks like a big red brick barn, but it was something to do with the brewing industry, was it? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
You'd be surprised how many people think it's a barn or something like that. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
But originally it's a maltings building dating back to the 1780s. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
So it goes back 230 years or more. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
What would have been around here then? Not a main road? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Absolutely not, no. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
You've got to remember that a maltings building was a completely agricultural process. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
It would have been surrounded by fields. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Let's go and look inside, and see what you're dealing with. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
'The Maltings was used for soaking, sprouting and drying grain to create malt, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
'a key ingredient in brewing beer. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
'It fell into disrepair, lying vacant until the '60s and was scheduled for demolition. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
'But a Grade II listing due to its heritage saved it.' | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
What's the plan for this space? There are a lot of possibilities here. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
Yes. What we're proposing to do | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
is to create two retail units, small shop units, in this space. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:59 | |
Upstairs, we're proposing three duplex apartments | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
so that families or professionals alike | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
could live in quite a nice space. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
The shop at the end is going to include the kiln area. Yeah. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
And that's the reason for the listing, essentially, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
that and the fact that, by and large, you can tell that this is still a malting building. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
So you have to be really careful to keep those features. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
So you can't just open out the kiln area. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
If it's going to be part of a shop, it has to be preserved the way it is. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
Essentially, the kiln itself is sacrosanct, yes. Yeah. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Let's have a look upstairs, shall we? Great. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
'Retaining the historic features is a key reason | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
'why Carl's vision was approved where others failed. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
'And upstairs, the plans for the apartments | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
'incorporate the unique beams.' | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
This could be a great space. It's all the rage to have warehouse apartments and that kind of stuff, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:50 | |
but this is the genuine article! Yeah. A lot of history to the building. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
What is it about this building you find so attractive? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
It's got a real potential to kind of improve the town. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
And we're going to preserve this building | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
going into the future for many years. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
So it's great to give it a new, proper lease of life. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
You must hope to see this quite soon. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
After all your work, it'll be great to see it realised. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
We're chomping at the bit to get this one going! | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
Thank you for showing me round. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Great plans, and very exciting, so I hope it comes off soon. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Brilliant. Thank you. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
So it looks like there's finally fresh hope for the maltings. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
The difficulty here is being sensitive to the building, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
preserving its heritage and its characteristics, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
while making it suitable for modern living. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
But it looks like these plans do just that, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
so let's hope they're put in place soon | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
so this old building can once again be central to the community here in Stone. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
'Back in Shropshire, I'm with Ian and Eleanor, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
'who've taken on a dilapidated cottage they want to transform into a family home. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
'They're at the very beginning of the project | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
'and with plans still up in the air, they've got lots of questions. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
'I'm going to introduce them to a couple who've done something very similar.' | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Right, here we are! | 0:20:05 | 0:20:06 | |
So this is the place I've brought you to see. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
Any thoughts? I know it's big, but is it familiar? | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Yeah. The little dormer roofs, and it just has a feel similar to ours. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
Perhaps it won't surprise you it's also a Duke of Sutherland property? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
It's been completely changed by Matt and Christina, who you'll meet in a second. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
The thing about these two is they did a lot of the work themselves. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
And they lived on site for a lot of the build | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
which will make them quite interesting to talk to for you guys. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Shall we go and say hello? Yeah. Yeah. Good. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
'Matt and Christina took on not one but three run-down cottages. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
'They were also former tenants' homes on the Duke of Sutherland's estate. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
'Matt immediately saw the potential to create an ideal family home | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
'and set about convincing his wife, Christina.' | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
He brought me up one of the days to have a look from the outside. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
And I thought how nice it was, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
not knowing what it was like on the inside! | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
The buildings sit on a three-quarters-of-an-acre plot | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and despite their neglected state, there was high competition from other buyers. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
The person that was selling the property had been left the house in a will. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
And she'd come over from Australia. So I took the time to meet her. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
She had higher offers than us, but because she knew it was going to be a family house, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
she let us have it. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
And we're still in touch now. She comes over and visits. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
The couple snatched up the cottages for a total of ?300,000. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
To save money, the family made the bold decision | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
to live in the ramshackle cottages whilst the renovation was ongoing, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
presenting a number of challenges. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
There was no insulation, no damp course. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
The insulation was more of an issue with trying to live in it at the time because it was so cold | 0:21:45 | 0:21:52 | |
in the house. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
So we would have log burners burning 24/7 to keep heat in. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Half the time we were living in the open air | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
because although we had the roof above our head, one of the walls would be out. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
Matt did the majority of the work by himself. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Progress was slow, and the first winter on site was a real eye-opener. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
It was one of the worst winters we've ever had. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
It was really, really difficult. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
We were sweeping a foot of snow off the scaffolding | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
to then carry on that day's work. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
I fell off the scaffolding the one day twice, or fell off the roof twice, in a day. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
I had to climb back on and carry on. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
That was a bit difficult. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
If we'd had roofers in and carpenters in, it would have taken a couple of weeks. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
It took me about four or five months to finish the roof | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
because I was doing it all myself. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Christina pitched in, saving themselves thousands of pounds | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
cleaning all the bricks from demolition for re-use. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
We couldn't have done it without Christina. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
She didn't just clean one or two, she cleaned 10,000 bricks! | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
She had hands like a navvy by the end of it. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
She worked winter, summer, cleaned them in the snow. Everything. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
The hard work and sacrifice has paid off. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
And four years down the line they've achieved a wonderful family home. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
I've forgotten all about it, to be honest. It's funny. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
You forget about all the bad things when you get to this stage | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
because you see it all come together and all that fades into the background. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
I'm hoping that meeting Matt and Christina | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
and seeing just what they've achieved | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
will help Ian and Eleanor feel less daunted | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
and more inspired by the journey ahead. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
It's lovely to meet you. Thanks for having us in your home. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
As you walk in here, what are your first impressions? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
It's a pretty big kitchen diner. Yes. Amazing. Wonderful. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
What was it like to live here on a building site during that time? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
Very cold! Upstairs was particularly bad for us | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
because we're in such an exposed spot here. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
There was no insulation. Because the roof is your ceiling. Yes. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
You've got no protection whatsoever. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
So we had the gale force winds coming in through the uninsulated windows | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
and obviously there was no insulation in the roof, so it was very cold. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
These guys are having that issue as well. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Because the ceiling's right in the roof, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
what do you do? Insulate between the joists? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
You use blocks of insulation between the roof joists. 100ml. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
And then you use a 75ml block again just underneath. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
Then you screw your plasterboard onto that joist as well. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
It's a hell of a job, to be honest, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
because you're drilling the insulation and holding up the plasterboard. But it's worth it. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
OK. The kitchen is absolutely amazing. Can we look at some more? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
Yes. Help yourself. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
Matt and Christina knocked through the three cottages | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
and extended upwards to create two properties - | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
their four-bedroomed family home and a two-bed guest house next door. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
This is originally the area that we lived in. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
This was our bedroom, my daughter's bedroom, the bathroom and the hallway, all in one! | 0:24:54 | 0:25:00 | |
It was everything! That's now just your bedroom. Yeah. This was the house, basically. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
How much of this work did you actually do yourselves? | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
I'd say about 80% myself | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
and calling in favours to either do the work for me or show me where I'm going wrong | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
and then keep coming back to make sure I'm doing it right. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Specialist tools, as well. Hiring equipment and tools. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
The cost can escalate so much in scaffolding and professional tools. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
Rather than renting them, I was buying them off auction sites. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Had you thought of that? No, not at all. That's a really good idea. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
It's a bit of money up-front, but in the long term, it could save money. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
And what about materials, as well? | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
How do you stretch your budget? Were you looking to recycle materials | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
or asking for people's old materials? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
If you spot a building site, a small-scale building site, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
that's nearing completion, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
there's always a lot of left-over materials. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
You can generally meet the site agent and do a deal and buy the left-over materials | 0:25:53 | 0:26:00 | |
rather than them being chucked away. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:01 | |
I suppose if you don't ask, you don't get. That's the principle here. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Any final advice on the order you do things in? Where your priorities are? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
The main one is the roof and windows, to make it watertight. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
That will allow other trades to follow on. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
Then, because you want to live in the house, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
you've got to make a bedroom nice and tidy for you to relax. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Somewhere to watch TV, somewhere to cook. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
When you went to work on the place, presumably you stripped it out? | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Yes, it was all completely cleared out. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
It was just an empty property. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
So they could just gut it then and get on with what needed to be done. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
I think we might have to consider doing that | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
and kind of transferring furniture around the house. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
Definitely something to bear in mind. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Guys, thank you very much for showing us round. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
It's been wonderful. It's quite a mammoth project. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
You've achieved an awful lot. And thank you for your advice today, as well. It's been great. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
Thank you. Our pleasure. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
How have you found it today? | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Really beneficial. Yes, totally. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
It has really been an eye-opener. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
I feel like if they can do all of this, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
we do stand a chance of being able to do our much smaller project. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Their ideas are really good, really relevant. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
They've been really helpful. Totally. Shared... Good money-saving tips. Yeah. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
Shared so much advice. Yeah. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
You're in exactly the same position. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Matt did about 80% of the work, exactly what you're looking to do. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
Yeah, so it is just being bold, asking, begging favours from trades and that kind of stuff. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:31 | |
And they show it can work. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
I think you'll be just fine. Good. It's a great place. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
It's a wonderful location. Good luck. I hope you're having people round for barbecues next summer! | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
Let's hope so! Yeah! Thank you very much. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
This really has been the ideal place for Ian and Ellie to see today. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
A very similar building to theirs | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
and loads of great ideas for them to take away. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
But it's also been about advice. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
Everything from insulation to sourcing building supplies | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
and I think it's given them great reassurance. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
They really can do this. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
So they come away from here full of belief | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
that they can turn their little cottage into their perfect place in the country. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
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