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-Today...

-Do you want to find parents?

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I'll try and find marriage information.

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..heir hunters race to find family

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on one of their most valuable cases ever.

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It's going to be a highly competitive case,

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with a large family tree to be looking into.

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It's going to be a lot of work.

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Heirs receive potentially life-changing sums of cash.

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To find that you're part of an inheritance is quite a shock.

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And the bravery of unsung heroes in wartime Britain is discovered.

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The men up in the front line

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were doing a dangerous job in a dangerous place.

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In London, heir-hunting firm Finders have been working

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on a new case worth hundreds of thousands of pounds

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from the government's Bona Vacantia list.

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There was quite a high value to the estate.

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Could you just give them a call just to confirm?

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A property in London, sort of the Holy Grail of cases,

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you've always got a lot of competition on these ones.

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We've got to make sure that we work really quickly, really accurately.

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-Could you just give us one and let me know?

-Yeah, sure.

-Thanks.

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When we picked up on the case, we didn't look at the surname

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and think it would pose us many problems.

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But Ryan soon learnt he was being overconfident.

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We were left scratching our heads

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because we couldn't find any record of them.

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The estate was that of Barbara Lillian Irene Kirk,

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who was born in 1929 and passed away in London in June 2015.

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She lived in Hampstead Garden Suburb, an area she loved,

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having lived there for over two decades.

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I understand Barbara Kirk was here for over 20 years.

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To live in Hampstead Garden Suburb is regarded by most of the people

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who live here as something special.

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People do tend to stop and have a chat.

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It is a friendlier area

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than most, I think, in London.

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So, from that point of view, it's a good place to live.

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Barbara also worked as a pathologist

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at a Central London hospital for over 40 years.

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She would have had a wide range of roles,

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helping in the diagnosis and maintenance of the patient.

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Barbara is likely to have started her job at the very foundation

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of the NHS in 1948,

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where openings for women in the workplace were expanding rapidly.

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This was not somebody who just went in as a young girl

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and sort of stayed doing the same job.

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MLSOs - medical laboratory scientific officers -

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began to have a career progression.

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There would have been training courses.

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Barbara appears to have taken hold of these new opportunities

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with both hands,

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but it would have taken a certain type of character

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to perform her crucial work.

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Well, I think you have to be methodical

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because it's really important.

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People's lives depend on getting the right blood, for example,

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in a blood transfusion.

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Barbara played a vital role in patient care in the NHS,

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but she appeared to have passed away without a will

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or any close relatives.

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Do you mind just pulling this up?

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Case manager Holly Jones was tasked with finding her heirs.

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It appears that she wasn't married,

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so we'll probably be looking for a wider family.

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It's not going to be a close kin tree.

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A large family tree to be looking into.

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It's going to be a lot of work.

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Cheers. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

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The area Barbara lived in meant her case was a priority.

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So we valued Barbara's estate at roughly £800,000.

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Quite a large estate.

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This is definitely up with some of the larger ones that we work on.

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With such a large amount of money at stake,

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the team sent a travelling representative out

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to uncover what they could about Barbara's life from her local area.

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Neighbours often know a lot more about the deceased.

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Peter George is a seasoned travelling rep

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and knows how valuable his work can be to the office.

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You'd never get to know that merely by looking at a computer screen.

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So it's important to try and speak to as many neighbours as you can.

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I like being out on the road.

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You know, I've never been based in an office anywhere.

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And I enjoy meeting the public, talking to people

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and making enquires. That's what this job's all about.

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Peter doesn't seem to have much luck.

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Often, people are very suspicious of cold callers.

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But people are right to be suspicious

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cos there are a lot of people out there to...to con people.

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Obviously, that's not what we're about.

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We are genuine and we're merely trying to trace relatives

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that can inherit from the estate.

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Having gleaned no helpful information about Barbara's family,

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the pressure is on the office team to unlock the case themselves.

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Having established she never married or had children,

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the first step is to find Barbara's parents

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to see if she had any brothers and sisters.

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And to do this, they need Barbara's birth record.

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Kirk isn't a particularly unusual name,

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which has plusses and minuses for us.

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If you're working with a really common name such as Jones or Smith,

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obviously, it can make your research work much more difficult -

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you have to go through many more records.

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Kirk falls somewhere in the middle of that, I suppose.

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In this instance, Barbara had two middle names -

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Irene and Lillian -

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so that was helpful in narrowing down our Kirk searches.

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Some surnames are going to be harder to work,

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you would imagine, from the outset.

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It depends, often, on the combination of forenames

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and whether dates of birth, etc, are easy to identify and confirm.

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When we search for Barbara Kirks being born in 1929

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in England and Wales, there are about seven results.

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However, there's only one with middle initials I and L.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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When Barbara's birth certificate does come through,

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the team are hoping

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it will kick-start the search for her parents.

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From Barbara's birth certificate,

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we can also see her mother's name - Helen Kirk.

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It has her profession as a housemaid or a nursemaid.

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Thanks so much, Jean. Cheers. Bye-bye.

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But there's something missing.

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Barbara's birth certificate didn't have any father entered on it,

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and she was illegitimate.

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It changes the way that we would do our research

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compared to if she were born within a marriage.

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Typically, when a person is born out of wedlock,

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there'd be no father's name on the birth certificate.

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So you then have to consider that the mother,

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single at the time of birth,

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may then have married and had further children.

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With only one side of the family able to be researched,

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the office team face an uphill struggle.

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They concentrate their efforts to see if Barbara's mother, Helen,

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had any more children.

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We knew from research of the marriage indexes

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that Helen never married,

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therefore there wouldn't be any half-blood siblings to Barbara,

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who were born in wedlock.

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Once we'd established that Barbara was an only child,

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we then needed to go back a generation and focus on

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any brothers and sisters that her mother might have had.

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To do that, we can look at the census.

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Census records are a great resource tool for us

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when we're doing the research into the family trees

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because it's a snapshot of the family.

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They do capture the family at ten-year intervals,

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so very useful but very important.

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There is potentially a few children there.

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Potentially. I really don't think...

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Once located, Barbara's family's listing contained a surprise.

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It appeared her family were from Beverley in Yorkshire.

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Here we have Helen's parents as well as her brothers and sister,

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so we have an instant family tree.

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The records showed Barbara's grandparents -

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Robert Kirk and Mary Smith -

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had four children other than Barbara's mother, Helen.

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So there were aunts and uncles whose children,

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if found, could be heirs.

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But when the team received Robert and Mary's death certificates,

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they could see that fate had taken a terrible toll on the family.

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We actually found out that tragedy struck the family in 1903

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with Robert passing away,

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followed by his wife the year afterwards,

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due to complications with tuberculosis,

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and that left Helen and her brothers and sisters as orphans.

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Tuberculosis was one of the most infectious diseases

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which had reached epidemic proportions across the UK

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at the beginning of the 20th century.

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Well, the symptoms of TB are, first of all, persistent cough.

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A cough that perhaps lasts for three or more weeks.

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Sometimes, people cough up blood.

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The disease is also known as consumption.

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And it does, it consumes the body.

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So you lose weight, often have night-time sweats,

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and literally just waste away.

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Barbara's grandparents, Robert and Mary, would have known

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tuberculosis was almost certainly a death sentence.

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There was very, very little that could be done for TB

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at the beginning of the 20th century.

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There were some surgical procedures for TB,

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but in terms of a medicine, preventative, nothing very much.

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Robert was the sole breadwinner for the family

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as a poorly paid stone breaker,

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so they would have struggled to afford effective treatment.

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You might not even have a doctor, you might not have a regular doctor

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because it was expensive.

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What most people would do, would probably go to the chemists

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and get a tonic of some kind.

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So things like cod liver oil

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or beef and iron tea were very popular at that period

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because there was not very much rational medicine for anything,

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let alone TB.

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If you couldn't afford to take the time off work

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and to go into a hospital or a sanatorium,

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then what option did you have?

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There was very little in the way of sick pay or anything like that

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in the working conditions for most people,

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so most people would have had to carry on.

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And sadly, Barbara's grandparents' circumstances meant one person

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with tuberculosis was a disaster for all of them.

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They were all crowded together, so the infectious agent,

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which is spread by...in the air,

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was passed very easily from member to member.

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So, yes, quite common for whole families to be infected.

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With Robert and Mary dying within a year of each other,

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their children were orphaned in a time

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before the welfare state existed to help those in dire straits.

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Given that four of the youngest Kirk children were very young

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when their parents passed away,

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and this meant that they were orphaned

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prior to reaching the age of 15,

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in retrospect, it looked as though their futures

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would be very challenging from that point.

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But as the team were to discover,

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for two of the orphaned Kirk children -

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Barbara's uncles Robert and Leonard -

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life was about to take a very surprising turn.

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I think, for the boys going out,

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it would have been a big adventure when they got on board the ship.

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Sometimes, cases the heir hunters work

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can reveal unsung heroes hidden in family trees,

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with stories that cross continents and decades.

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One such case was that of Philip Charles Horseman.

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He was born on the 25th January, 1940

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in Islington in North London,

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and spent much of his life living in Kent.

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I would say he was a friendly sort of a person, you know.

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If you happened to be out in the front when he went out,

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you know, he'd say hello.

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When I did have a chat to him, it was mostly about the garden.

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Philip had worked most of his life in the building trade,

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and in retirement, he was famous for his love of routine

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and enjoyed the company in his local community pub every day.

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He used to virtually go to the pub 12 o'clock.

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Half-past two to three o'clock, he'd be back.

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But one lunchtime, Philip didn't make it to his local.

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On the day, I look at my watch and think,

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"Hello. Phil's a bit late going round to the pub." You know.

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You know, that was it. He was gone.

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It is sad. Very, very sad, yes.

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Yeah, very, very sad.

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Philip passed away at home on 22nd of August, 2014,

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without a will or any obvious close family.

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His case was picked up in London

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by senior assistant case manager Amy Cox.

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-Right.

-Thanks.

-Good luck.

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The case of Philip Charles Horseman came to us via a referral.

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We receive a number of these throughout the year.

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And so while we didn't have an exact value,

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we knew that it's likely that there were going to be funds there

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to be distributed to beneficiaries.

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Amy's team quickly got to work on the case.

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Thank you so much for letting me know. Thanks. Bye.

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First of all, the most important thing to do

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was to check whether or not

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Philip Charles Horseman was ever married.

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So we're typing in "Philip Charles Horseman."

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We know that his date of birth was the 25th of January, 1940.

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We're able to see that Philip never married,

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and then you can assume that he never had any children.

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-Right. Shall we find out parents, first of all?

-Yeah.

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And then try and find a marriage for them.

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Do you want to find parents and I'll try and find marriage information?

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Yeah, that's fine.

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Having established that Philip definitely had no close family,

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Amy needed to expand the search.

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Using his death certificate, we could find a birth entry for him.

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His birth entry gave us his father's surname

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and also his mother's maiden name.

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These are absolutely crucial information that you need

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in order to get the case off the ground.

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Philip's father was Thomas Charles Horseman,

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and he married Ellen Hayes on the 21st of January, 1939.

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With the details from the parents' marriage and their forenames,

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we were able to search to see if there were any further children.

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When we did the search, it turned out that Philip was an only child.

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This meant the team would have to find Philip's grandparents

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on both sides of his family

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to locate any aunts and uncles, or their children,

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who could be potential heirs.

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Starting with the paternal side of the family,

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the deceased's father was a Thomas Charles Horseman.

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He was born on the 6th of February, 1905.

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His parents are a Frank Horseman and a Ruth Carbis.

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And on Thomas's birth certificate,

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his father, Frank, is listed as a coal miner.

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But when we started doing our research online,

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we came across a photo of Frank and it looks as though,

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at one point, he had quite a different career.

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Records showed that Philip's paternal grandfather, Frank,

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was a private in the Royal Army Medical Corps

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during World War I,

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but he appears to have had a deep interest in army medicine

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long before war was declared.

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Frank Horseman was a really interesting soldier.

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His original service number

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was number 60. Six, zero.

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That's an incredibly low number.

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And what that says to me

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is that Frank was probably in the volunteer force before 1908,

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so gave up some time in the evenings and at weekends

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to learn those skills.

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The Royal Army Medical Corps was formed in 1898,

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and all its members were highly skilled.

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They were incredibly well trained,

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and that went right from the top with their officers,

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who were trained as doctors and surgeons -

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and very often had been those roles in peacetime -

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right the way down to the stretcher bearers who, again,

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were capable of stopping the bleeding, doing basic first aid,

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to actually get the men off the battlefield in one piece

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and to the hospitals further back.

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But while the medically trained soldiers

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would have been on the front line facing the enemy,

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they would've had no means to defend themselves.

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The Royal Army Medical Corps weren't armed.

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Specifically, they wore the Red Cross armband,

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the Cross of Geneva.

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As part of that, they agree not to bear arms.

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So the job of the infantrymen around them was to protect them

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while they went onto battlefields

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and get the wounded from the battlefield

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and evacuate them as quickly as they could.

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A lot of Royal Army Medical Corps personnel were killed or wounded

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in exactly the same way as the infantry soldiers.

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The men up in the front line were doing a dangerous job

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in a dangerous place

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and suffered exactly the same as everybody else.

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But during World War I,

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Frank wasn't sent to the trenches and mud of Western France.

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He was part of a huge British and Commonwealth army in Egypt

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that invaded Palestine in 1916,

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then held by the Ottoman Turks, allies of Germany.

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The scorching deserts of the Middle East made

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Frank's job of helping the injured even tougher.

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It was very dry, it was very dusty.

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Men wounded on the battlefield would very often lie out

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for several days with no water,

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and they were very, very dehydrated when they were finally brought in.

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The campaign to invade Palestine which Frank was part of

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was overshadowed by the mass slaughter of the Western Front.

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But it was vitally important to the war effort.

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It was one of the most successful campaigns of the entire war.

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It was fairly long, drawn out.

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They'd been fighting right the way from 1915 onwards.

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But the final year of the war, through 1917 and 1918,

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saw a lot of advances through the desert.

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They were building pipes for water.

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They were building railways, roads

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to transport this massive army forward,

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to take on the Turks.

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And in December 1917,

0:18:430:18:45

the British Army captured Jerusalem from the Turks,

0:18:450:18:48

something which may have been especially significant for Frank.

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For a fella who'd spent all of his life in the Valleys, in Wales,

0:18:520:18:55

it must have been quite a thing to see.

0:18:550:18:57

You know, this is the Holy Land.

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It was a big thing to an awful lot of soldiers to actually go places

0:18:590:19:02

that they'd just read about.

0:19:020:19:04

In 1919, Frank Horseman's war ended and he returned home to his family.

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-If you can get the birth certificate ordered, that would be useful.

-OK.

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Back in the office, Amy had discovered

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how many children Frank and Ruth had had together.

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With the mother's maiden name, we could do a birth search,

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and there were five other births.

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After Frank and Ruth had married in August 1902,

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they'd had six children.

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But Amy discovered another child who almost fitted in with the family,

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but who had been born before Frank and Ruth got married.

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Ruth Carbis had given birth to a daughter.

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And when we got the birth certificate for that daughter,

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there's no father listed,

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so it would appear that she's illegitimate.

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Illegitimate births are notoriously difficult for the heir hunters.

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They were uncertain whether to include Edith

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as part of the Horseman family, but decided to take a gamble.

0:20:040:20:08

Although Edith was born illegitimately,

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she was born on the 15th of February, 1902,

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which is a good six months before Frank and Ruth actually married.

0:20:130:20:17

It's likely that he was her father,

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but he would have been left off the birth certificate

0:20:200:20:23

because they were unmarried when she was born.

0:20:230:20:25

We had to find either that she was thought to be

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or known to be included as a family member of equal status

0:20:290:20:33

to the other uncles and aunts.

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-These two?

-Mm-hm.

-OK.

-Thank you.

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Amy and the team looked further into Edith's family history,

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and their gamble paid off when they received some vital documents.

0:20:410:20:45

We later discovered that Edith was using the maiden name Horseman

0:20:450:20:49

when she married David Morgan in 1919.

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She also then uses the Horseman surname

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on the birth of her three children.

0:20:550:20:57

And it also then appears later on her death certificate.

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So, for us, that was enough to prove entitlement

0:21:000:21:04

and her children and grandchildren were the heirs to that stem.

0:21:040:21:08

With Edith's children's entitlement confirmed,

0:21:090:21:12

the team had found their first heirs.

0:21:120:21:14

But with another five aunts and uncles still to investigate,

0:21:140:21:18

the hunt was on to find more.

0:21:180:21:20

Thanks, bye.

0:21:200:21:22

And in the next generation of the Horsemans,

0:21:220:21:24

the heir hunters were to uncover another family member

0:21:240:21:27

who'd risked his life to save others.

0:21:270:21:29

He would have witnessed some horrendous sights

0:21:290:21:32

of badly burned air crew crashing back on airfields

0:21:320:21:37

in their fighters.

0:21:370:21:38

Every year in Britain, thousands of people

0:21:450:21:48

get a surprise knock on the door from the heir hunters.

0:21:480:21:51

Good morning.

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But there are still thousands of unsolved cases

0:21:540:21:57

where heirs need to be found. Could you be one of them?

0:21:570:22:00

Today, we've got details of two estates

0:22:010:22:03

on the Government Legal Department's Bona Vacantia list

0:22:030:22:06

that are yet to be claimed.

0:22:060:22:08

The first is Margaret Lee-Ying,

0:22:090:22:12

who died on the 25th of March, 2005,

0:22:120:22:14

in Eastbourne, East Sussex,

0:22:140:22:16

at the age of 76.

0:22:160:22:18

She'd travelled thousands of miles in her lifetime,

0:22:180:22:21

as Margaret was born on the 26th of January, 1929, in China.

0:22:210:22:25

She married in 1955 on the Royal Air Force base Changi

0:22:250:22:30

in the Far East,

0:22:300:22:32

so it's possible Margaret married a British airman

0:22:320:22:34

and moved to the UK with him.

0:22:340:22:36

But do you know exactly why Margaret came here?

0:22:360:22:38

Does she have family in Britain or is her family still in China?

0:22:380:22:42

The next case is that of Alide Kand,

0:22:440:22:46

who died on the 9th of May, 1997,

0:22:460:22:49

in Leeds, West Yorkshire, aged 89.

0:22:490:22:51

Alide was born on the 10th of September, 1907, in Estonia.

0:22:510:22:55

Information suggests she worked as a cook on merchant ships

0:22:550:22:59

before settling in the UK after World War II.

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Do you know anything that could help solve the cases

0:23:020:23:04

of Margaret Lee-Ying and Alide Kand?

0:23:040:23:07

Perhaps you could be the next of kin.

0:23:070:23:10

If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way.

0:23:100:23:13

It's not many miles away, is it? But it just doesn't fit together.

0:23:200:23:23

In London, heir hunters are searching for beneficiaries

0:23:230:23:26

to the estate of Barbara Kirk...

0:23:260:23:28

It'll be a cold call. Just play it by ear, see how you get on.

0:23:280:23:31

..who lived most of her life in the north of the city

0:23:310:23:34

until she passed away in 2015.

0:23:340:23:37

Richard Wiseman is part of the community in which Barbara lived.

0:23:380:23:42

Barbara Kirk lived here for over 20 years.

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She would have continued to be familiar with her neighbours

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because, on the whole, people don't move much.

0:23:510:23:55

Once you're in the suburb, you tend to stay here.

0:23:550:23:57

And I think a number of her neighbours

0:23:570:24:01

were on the lookout for her well-being.

0:24:010:24:03

So, from that point of view, it's a good place to live.

0:24:030:24:06

Unfortunately for the heir hunters,

0:24:070:24:09

their man on the ground in Barbara's old neighbourhood

0:24:090:24:12

hadn't been able to find anyone who could help with their research.

0:24:120:24:15

My name's Peter George.

0:24:150:24:17

But the heir hunters are having more luck with online records.

0:24:190:24:23

-Leave that page up and open a new one.

-Yeah.

0:24:230:24:25

They discover that both Barbara's grandfather

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and grandmother died in their early 40s from tuberculosis,

0:24:270:24:31

leaving four of their youngest children to fend for themselves.

0:24:310:24:34

Annie was only 13,

0:24:370:24:38

her brother Robert was ten,

0:24:380:24:40

Leonard was five.

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And then Helen, Barbara's mother,

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was actually only aged two when she lost her parents.

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In reality, the only option available

0:24:470:24:49

was for them to be fostered.

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But without an effective welfare state to re-home them,

0:24:530:24:56

the children could have been abandoned on the streets.

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If you were homeless and a young child,

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your ability to feed yourself would have been,

0:25:010:25:04

you know, almost impossible.

0:25:040:25:06

You would've had to beg on the streets.

0:25:060:25:08

Life would've been terrible

0:25:080:25:10

for a child out on the streets at that time.

0:25:100:25:12

But help was at hand,

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and records show that the four youngest Kirk children

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appeared to have been helped by the Barnardo's charity.

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For the Kirk family, coming into Barnardo's would have been,

0:25:220:25:25

you know, that would've been the best thing for them,

0:25:250:25:28

especially after their parents had died.

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They would've been looked after, they would've been well fed,

0:25:300:25:32

they would've been educated, they would've had a warm bed

0:25:320:25:35

and they were safe.

0:25:350:25:37

Dr Thomas Barnardo had set up the charity in 1866.

0:25:400:25:45

Barnardo wanted to make sure that children were kept safe

0:25:450:25:48

and that they were away from harm.

0:25:480:25:50

So by bringing them in, offering them employment,

0:25:500:25:53

offering them training,

0:25:530:25:54

providing them with a skill so that they could go out,

0:25:540:25:57

earn money and support themselves, that was his main goal.

0:25:570:26:00

Back in the office,

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the team need to find exactly what happened to the Kirk children

0:26:060:26:09

after they were taken in by Barnardo's

0:26:090:26:12

in order to track down any heirs.

0:26:120:26:14

Holly uses the census records to trace their movements

0:26:150:26:18

and discovers why Barbara ended up living in the south of England.

0:26:180:26:22

From the 1911 census, we can find Barbara's mother, Helen,

0:26:220:26:26

living down in Hertfordshire.

0:26:260:26:29

It appears that she'd been moved from Yorkshire,

0:26:290:26:32

in a foster home, in a Barnardo's children's home.

0:26:320:26:35

Previously, if we thought they stayed in Yorkshire,

0:26:350:26:38

we might have restricted our searches to that area.

0:26:380:26:41

So being able to track their movements

0:26:410:26:43

through these later censuses is really important.

0:26:430:26:46

But despite working out what became of Barbara's mother, Helen,

0:26:460:26:50

the whereabouts of Barbara's uncles,

0:26:500:26:52

the two boys - Robert and Leonard - remained a mystery.

0:26:520:26:55

We were left scratching our heads

0:26:550:26:57

because we couldn't find any record of Robert and Leonard.

0:26:570:27:00

We couldn't find them on the 1911 census. But beyond that,

0:27:000:27:03

we couldn't locate a marriage which looked likely for either of them.

0:27:030:27:07

The death search was proving negative as well.

0:27:070:27:10

It could be that they've ended up in another part of the country.

0:27:110:27:14

If their surname has changed,

0:27:140:27:15

then they would've been almost impossible to find.

0:27:150:27:18

But we needed to go through the processes in order to ascertain

0:27:180:27:21

whether got married and whether they had children

0:27:210:27:23

because, potentially, any children they did have

0:27:230:27:26

would be entitled to inherit from Barbara's estate.

0:27:260:27:28

With two sources of potential heirs mysteriously disappearing,

0:27:280:27:32

the team were stumped,

0:27:320:27:34

until they discovered Robert Kirk on shipping records from 1904.

0:27:340:27:38

We found out that the reason why he wasn't tuning up

0:27:380:27:41

on the 1911 census records here was because he actually went to Canada

0:27:410:27:46

with Dr Barnardo's, the children's home,

0:27:460:27:49

along with around 200 other children.

0:27:490:27:52

In 1907, Robert's brother Leonard also went to Canada with Barnardo's,

0:27:570:28:03

but it wasn't a holiday they were being treated to.

0:28:030:28:06

The child migration scheme was actually a government initiative

0:28:060:28:09

set up by both the British and Canadian government

0:28:090:28:12

to basically populate Canada,

0:28:120:28:15

which before then was very much a dying society

0:28:150:28:18

of old men and railroad workers.

0:28:180:28:20

So it was an opportunity for the governments to, one,

0:28:200:28:24

provide somewhere for the vast, growing number of children

0:28:240:28:27

who were homeless in the UK,

0:28:270:28:29

but also give them an opportunity to have a different life.

0:28:290:28:33

For Robert and Leonard, it would have been

0:28:350:28:37

quite an adventure going to Canada.

0:28:370:28:39

They probably would have put their hand up and volunteered to go,

0:28:390:28:42

been told a little bit about life in Canada,

0:28:420:28:45

about the snow and about the summers

0:28:450:28:46

and, you know, life working on a farm.

0:28:460:28:49

The migration scheme in Canada ran till 1939,

0:28:500:28:54

and 100,000 children were actually sent to Canada,

0:28:540:28:57

the vast majority of which went prior to the First World War.

0:28:570:29:00

And by the time Britain declared war on Germany in 1914,

0:29:030:29:07

Robert and Leonard were 21 and 16.

0:29:070:29:10

They both responded to the call to arms from their motherland

0:29:100:29:14

and joined Canadian forces

0:29:140:29:16

who were sent to the Western Front in France.

0:29:160:29:18

But Ryan uncovered a tragic end

0:29:180:29:20

to Robert and Leonard's great adventure.

0:29:200:29:23

Robert Kirk was actually killed in action in France in 1916,

0:29:230:29:27

and his brother Leonard sadly passed away a year later,

0:29:270:29:31

but back in Canada, in a military hospital.

0:29:310:29:33

Both never married and therefore our research was focused

0:29:330:29:36

onto the other lines of the family.

0:29:360:29:38

So have you got his address?

0:29:400:29:42

With no heirs from Robert and Leonard,

0:29:420:29:45

the team were running out of options,

0:29:450:29:47

so they focused on their two surviving sisters -

0:29:470:29:49

Barbara's aunties, Annie and Ethel.

0:29:490:29:51

Helen's sister, Annie Kirk,

0:29:510:29:54

actually died in 1910,

0:29:540:29:56

unmarried and without children,

0:29:560:29:58

and from tuberculosis.

0:29:580:30:00

Again, it's quite sad that she didn't have any children of her own

0:30:000:30:04

after she came out of Barnardo's.

0:30:040:30:07

We were running out of options

0:30:080:30:10

if we were going to find any beneficiaries,

0:30:100:30:12

so all our hopes were really pinned on the line of Ethel Kirk.

0:30:120:30:16

Oh, perfect.

0:30:170:30:19

That is... That's great.

0:30:200:30:22

And the team were in luck this time.

0:30:220:30:24

OK, bye.

0:30:240:30:25

Ethel Kirk, Helen's sister,

0:30:270:30:29

married in 1904 to a George William Gillyon.

0:30:290:30:34

Because they married in 1904, it meant we could look for them

0:30:340:30:39

on the 1911 census, and we found them.

0:30:390:30:42

They were living together

0:30:420:30:44

and they'd already had several children.

0:30:440:30:46

Ethel Kirk and George Gillyon had six children,

0:30:460:30:49

four of whom survived to adulthood.

0:30:490:30:52

And the team were able to track down all of their descendants,

0:30:520:30:56

finding a total of 17 heirs to Barbara's estate.

0:30:560:30:59

John Maw is the great grandson of Ethel Kirk

0:31:000:31:03

and is Barbara's cousin twice removed.

0:31:030:31:06

He still lives in the same town of Beverley in Yorkshire,

0:31:060:31:09

that Barbara's grandparents lived in at the turn of the 20th century.

0:31:090:31:12

It was a knock on the door,

0:31:120:31:15

and there was a chap there...

0:31:150:31:18

John remembers the moment he found out he would be inheriting

0:31:180:31:21

from Barbara Kirk - a name he'd never heard of before.

0:31:210:31:25

I basically didn't believe him.

0:31:250:31:27

I think my words to him were, "You're joking."

0:31:270:31:33

I was gobsmacked.

0:31:330:31:35

It wasn't until he gave me some further details

0:31:350:31:38

that I realised that he wasn't one of these scammers or what-have-you,

0:31:380:31:44

-and I invited him in.

-HE CHUCKLES

0:31:440:31:47

Once John's surprise subsided, he was left with more questions.

0:31:470:31:51

Well, to find that you're part of an inheritance is quite a shock.

0:31:510:31:56

The name Barbara Kirk means absolutely nothing to me at all,

0:31:570:32:01

and it doesn't mean anything to the family either.

0:32:010:32:05

I think when you first find that you've got a relative

0:32:050:32:08

who's left something,

0:32:080:32:12

it does make you wonder,

0:32:120:32:14

what's the story behind that particular person?

0:32:140:32:17

But the windfall will also be of some practical use for John.

0:32:170:32:21

If I got a reasonable inheritance,

0:32:210:32:24

I do need a new roof on my bathroom.

0:32:240:32:28

So it will certainly come in handy there

0:32:280:32:32

because roofs are not...cheap.

0:32:320:32:35

But it's also quite sad that this person has obviously

0:32:370:32:42

left...left money and I don't know that person.

0:32:420:32:47

For all concerned, it's been a satisfying and interesting case

0:32:490:32:52

to be a part of.

0:32:520:32:54

As much as there are some things we'll never know about Barbara Kirk,

0:32:540:32:57

looking at her family tree, we can build a picture

0:32:570:32:59

and really see how she rose through adversity.

0:32:590:33:02

She'd lost both her mother and her grandparents at a very young age,

0:33:020:33:07

and she didn't seem to let that dampen her spirits.

0:33:070:33:11

She went on to have a very successful career,

0:33:110:33:14

and this was something that we could see as we developed

0:33:140:33:17

the story of the family tree but also on our journey

0:33:170:33:20

to find the heirs to Barbara's estate.

0:33:200:33:22

And for heir John,

0:33:220:33:24

his newly enlarged family tree is a welcome surprise.

0:33:240:33:27

We've got a story there that I didn't know existed.

0:33:270:33:31

That, to me, is probably as important,

0:33:310:33:34

more so, than money.

0:33:340:33:37

Philip Charles Horseman passed away at home in Kent in 2014

0:33:450:33:50

without a will or any known next of kin.

0:33:500:33:53

Neighbour Edward Jarman used to help Philip look after his property.

0:33:530:33:57

Most of the talk we had

0:33:570:34:00

was really about the garden, you know, like being a neighbour.

0:34:000:34:04

I did go round there with weedkiller

0:34:040:34:07

and did cut all the brambles as best I could, you know.

0:34:070:34:12

Just go round and just do it, don't worry about it, you know.

0:34:120:34:15

And one day, he was gone.

0:34:170:34:19

It is sad. Very, very sad, yes.

0:34:220:34:25

Yeah, very, very sad.

0:34:250:34:27

Heir hunters Amy and Camilla had picked up Philip's case

0:34:360:34:39

and found heirs to the estate from his eldest aunt, Edith,

0:34:390:34:42

on his father's side.

0:34:420:34:44

But the paternal side was quite large

0:34:440:34:46

and Amy continued to investigate his five remaining aunts and uncles.

0:34:460:34:50

Both William Henry Horseman

0:34:500:34:52

and Annie Mary Horseman, they never had any children,

0:34:520:34:56

so with regard to those two stems, they've died out.

0:34:560:34:59

Laura married twice and she had one child,

0:34:590:35:02

but unfortunately, he passed away as an infant.

0:35:020:35:05

It looks like the paternal side of Philip's tree

0:35:050:35:07

was going to have only a handful of heirs,

0:35:070:35:10

despite there being at least six aunts and uncles to look at.

0:35:100:35:13

But the final few branches of the family tree were to bear more fruit.

0:35:130:35:18

Alice Doreen Horseman, she married a John Morris Howard in 1934,

0:35:180:35:22

and they had one child who's a beneficiary.

0:35:220:35:25

That left the youngest of Philip's uncles,

0:35:250:35:28

Albert Vernon Horseman.

0:35:280:35:30

And when the team looked into Uncle Albert,

0:35:300:35:32

they discovered something interesting.

0:35:320:35:35

On this marriage certificate,

0:35:350:35:36

we can see that Albert Vernon Horseman

0:35:360:35:38

married Ruby May Boakes in 1945.

0:35:380:35:42

It lists that he was in the RAF.

0:35:420:35:45

However, it says that he was not a pilot.

0:35:450:35:48

Records show that Albert was listed as an ambulance driver

0:35:490:35:52

in the RAF in 1945.

0:35:520:35:55

But he'd already performed this role in a civilian capacity

0:35:560:36:00

earlier in the war,

0:36:000:36:01

during one of the most dangerous and destructive periods

0:36:010:36:04

of World War II on mainland UK - the London Blitz.

0:36:040:36:09

He was later drafted into the RAF

0:36:090:36:11

and given a dual role of ambulance driver

0:36:110:36:14

and plane mechanic on an airfield in Kent.

0:36:140:36:17

Albert would have been frantically busy -

0:36:170:36:19

repairing aircraft engines,

0:36:190:36:22

maintaining aircraft engines,

0:36:220:36:24

keeping the squadrons operational

0:36:240:36:26

at a time when Britain really was fighting for its life

0:36:260:36:29

against the enemy.

0:36:290:36:31

The way it tended to work, if you were on ambulance duty,

0:36:320:36:35

was that you would continue

0:36:350:36:37

with your normal, day-to-day occupation -

0:36:370:36:40

perhaps maintaining aircraft engines -

0:36:400:36:42

and if the crash alarm went off on the airfield,

0:36:420:36:45

you then dropped everything,

0:36:450:36:47

sprinted to your ambulance, jumped in

0:36:470:36:49

and got to where the problem was.

0:36:490:36:51

Although he was a driver, he would no doubt have had to do

0:36:560:37:01

whatever was required of him in order to recover aircrew

0:37:010:37:05

from wrecked airplanes, get them to hospital,

0:37:050:37:08

look after them on the way.

0:37:080:37:10

Working on an airfield would have been no respite

0:37:100:37:12

from the horrors Albert would have seen in Central London

0:37:120:37:15

during the Blitz.

0:37:150:37:17

He would've witnessed some horrendous sights

0:37:170:37:19

of badly burned aircrew crashing back on airfields.

0:37:190:37:24

It would've been quite a harrowing experience

0:37:240:37:27

for anybody involved in the whole medical emergency services

0:37:270:37:31

at that time.

0:37:310:37:32

Like his father Frank before him,

0:37:320:37:35

Albert served on a lesser known, unconventional battlefield.

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And he also wasn't trying to kill.

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He was trying to help and to heal.

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Both as a ground crew and as an ambulance driver,

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Albert was one of those unsung heroes of the war effort.

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I think Albert's family can be very proud

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of what he did in World War II.

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He wasn't a fighter pilot or a bomber pilot,

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but his role in the RAF was an important one.

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He made a real contribution.

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Back in the office, Amy's team were busy piecing together

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the family Albert Horseman and his wife Ruby Boakes had

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after the war to see if they could find any more heirs.

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But they had to approach it carefully,

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as any potential heirs could have known Philip well,

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as they would be his first cousins.

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We spoke briefly yesterday...

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You can have all the qualifications in the world,

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but it doesn't necessarily prepare you

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for the situation you could be faced with,

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whether that's talking to a relative on the phone,

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having to tell someone that someone's passed away

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or describing the family relationships

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to someone you've never spoken to before in your life.

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Thank you. Bye.

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The team discovered Albert and Ruby had four children after the war.

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Come!

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One of them is Stephanie Ives,

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who remembers meeting Philip several decades ago.

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My one meeting with Philip, I was about 17.

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He was, I think, about 35.

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He wasn't there initially,

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and he came back from work, and we met and we spoke.

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He seemed very laid-back,

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very sort of...nothing seemed to bother him a great deal.

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In fact, his mother and stepfather's nickname for him was Unconscious

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because he was just so laid-back and horizontal.

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That was the one and only time I ever met him.

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Hearing about Philip after so many years

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came like a bolt from the blue for Stephanie.

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The first contact from the heir hunters

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was a knock on the door on a weekday night, about five o'clock.

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So we took it from there, really.

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It is surreal to find you're, you know, coming into an inheritance

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from someone you didn't have a lot of contact with,

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even though they're part of the family.

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And the experience has reignited her interest in her own close family,

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especially her father Albert,

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and the memories he shared about his wartime experiences

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as an ambulance driver.

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I know he saw lots of awful things during the Blitz.

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He delivered lots of babies during the Blitz.

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And I've still got his scissors that he used

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when he was an ambulance driver during the Blitz.

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Finding Stephanie and her siblings

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had tied up Philip's father's side of the family.

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But heir hunters now needed to try and find any surviving heirs

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on his mother's side.

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The first step was to locate Philip's maternal grandparents

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through his mother Ellen.

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We looked into Ellen's parents,

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who were John Hayes and Catherine Costello.

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The team quickly found nine births related to Hayes and Costello.

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But as with the paternal side of the tree,

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the first child they found was problematic.

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The first birth that we could find was actually for

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a Mary Catherine Costello, who was born in 1899.

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The surname Costello means that she was actually

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an illegitimate child of Catherine.

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In a strange parallel of Philip's father's side of the family,

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his eldest maternal aunt was born out of wedlock,

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as had been his eldest paternal aunt.

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But there was a crucial difference in the timing of this birth

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and marriage of his grandparents.

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Rather than a matter of months between the two events,

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Mary Costello had been born nearly three years

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before her mother Catherine married John Hayes.

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In those situations, we might ask other family members

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if they remember the person by name,

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remember her being included

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in the overall family set-up.

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And therefore, there may be an argument for including her,

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or any of her surviving descendants.

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But the records quickly showed that Mary didn't appear to have been

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part of the Hayes family.

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We also found, on a 1911 census,

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that she was no longer living with the Hayes family,

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unlike in the 1901 census, where she was living with Catherine.

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We had to just conclude that the most that particular person could be

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would be a half-blood relative,

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and therefore, there would be prior claimants.

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The team did find eight births

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which came after John and Catherine's marriage in 1902...

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OK, will do. Thank you. Thanks, bye.

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..and were able to prove they were all correct,

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leading to a further 19 heirs to Philip's estate.

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The team did a fantastic job in identifying the heirs,

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and in total, there were 26 heirs identified

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across the maternal and paternal sides of the family.

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And for Philip's cousin Stephanie,

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it's been an opportunity to think more about her family.

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I think any of the family history, I'd be interested in,

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simply because I think you get to an age

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where you do wonder about other parts of the family

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that you just sort of don't deliberately neglect,

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but you just sort of imperceptibly drift away from.

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And you often wonder what happened to them

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and where they are now and what they're doing.

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That's probably more interesting

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than any small inheritance we might get.

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