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Today, our heir hunters uncover long-forgotten tales of families | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
reshaped by conflict. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
From there, you might be able to find a death...on mortality. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
The first case has its roots planted firmly in London's East End. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
It looks, at the moment, like that stem is dead. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
And a second unearths family members who were heroes of war. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
I feel very proud of my father because... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
he went through such a lot to give us what we've got today. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
It's a tough life on the front-line for the heir hunters. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Today, heir hunters at London-based probate genealogist firm | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Fraser & Fraser are working on a case advertised | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
on the government legal department's unclaimed estates list. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
When someone dies with no obvious next of kin, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
and without leaving a will, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
the search begins for beneficiaries to inherit their estate. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
So, you end up with more than one. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
We might be lucky. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Anne Harris was born on 10th August, 1916, in East London, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
and she died on 26th March, 2013, in Tooting, aged 97. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:22 | |
Anne spent most of her life in the East End, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
so travelling researcher Ewart Lindsay has been sent | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
by the team to her last known address in Stepney to see | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
if he can find neighbours who knew her | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
and who can provide clues to her life. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
First of all, I'll speak to immediate neighbours... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
to...to where Mrs Harris lived. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
Then I'll extend it out to neighbours, you know, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
beyond where she used to live. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
Talking to neighbours can give you an insight to the background | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
of the deceased. It's a two-edged sword | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
because sometimes you could get information which might be | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
a bit misleading. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
But, invariably, a neighbour who knew | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
the deceased for a number of years would have snippets | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
of information that, initially, would be really helpful to us. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
HE KNOCKS ON DOORS | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
She lived at number 21? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
Anne Harris, who worked as a shop assistant, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
was born into an immigrant Jewish family. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
They were very much East Enders | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
and, with a thriving Jewish community in London's East End, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
would have felt very at home on the local streets. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Anne, growing up in East End, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
would have seen an awful lot of changes over her life. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
She was born in Poplar in 1916. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
That area was booming when she was born, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
but it's went from boom to bust. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
But, through the tough times, locals stuck together. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Anne living here would have enjoyed... | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
Well, a sense of community. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
The East End is well-known for its camaraderie. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
It's a place where people mix, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
where migrants from all communities get together. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
There was a very big Jewish community here because | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
in the north part of this Beaumont Square | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
was the London Jewish Hospital | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
and that would have attracted an awful lot of the community to there. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
There was a synagogue there. There was kosher kitchens. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Nearby, Ewart's had little luck with his research | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
in the block of flats that Anne used to call home. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Fingers crossed, I really do hope I get a neighbour to speak to. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
He's not giving up. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:32 | |
After 25 years on the road, he knows that patience is a virtue. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
How long have you been living here? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Finally, Ewart's found a neighbour who remembers Anne's family. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
She's just provided him with a vital piece of information. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Anne had a brother, Jack, who lived with her in this block of flats. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
Take care. All the best. Thank you. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
To us, it's a massive help. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
I mean, she's given us a brother, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
the name of the brother, you know... | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
And he lived here as well, so it's... | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
..it's good information to us. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
On the whole, it's been a good day, you know. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
I think we're nearer to finding family now... | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
..which is the main objective. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
In the office, case manager Gareth Langford has been hard at work | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
trying to crack Anne Harris' case. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
With just a few clues from Ewert | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
and a relatively common surname to deal with, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
the job of tracking down the right person is a tricky one. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
So, when the government legal department released | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
the information, they gave us some basic details. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Anne Harris, passed away in 2013. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
We know that she'd been married | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
and we know that her maiden name was Myers, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
but we're obviously still dealing with a Harris surname. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
The first task is to locate Anne Harris's marriage certificate, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
so the team can begin to build her family tree. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
We know that she was married to Norman David Harris, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
but we're not too interested in him. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
We're really interested in Annie. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
And she's known as Annie Myerovitch and she's 32 years old, a spinster. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
She's living in...in the Poplar area | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
and she's the daughter of Lewis Myerovitch, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
who's a lost property dealer. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
So, there's quite a lot of information there. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
We've got an address that will be really useful to us, but, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
most importantly, we've got some new names. The next step, really, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
was locating that all-important birth certificate. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
What made this search tricky was the fact that | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
her name is Anne Myers, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
but, erm...Myers is obviously anglicised, so Myerovitch, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
so the family may switch between Myerovitch and Myers, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
so that makes the search that much harder. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
So, finding her birth is a lot harder because you need to do | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
several searches rather than just one straight search. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
So, I found her birth. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
She was actually born in the September quarter of 1916 | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
in Mile End. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
And, on the birth certificate, Anne was registered as Annie. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
We have a great deal of difficulty when families change their name | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
in identifying not only their original surname, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
but often the first names as well | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
because they often will anglicise the first name. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
This is especially the case with Jewish families who, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
during the wars, often changed their name | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
so the names appeared more...British, I'd say. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
So, with Anne's name confirmed, and her birth certificate found, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
the next step is to locate her parents' marriage. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
And, from this, the family tree can grow. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Once found, it showed that Anne's father had also | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
anglicised his first name on her marriage certificate. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
They married in Mile End in December quarter of 1915. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Her father was Lazarus Myerovitch and her mother was Kate Maginsky. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
Armed with both Anne's parents' names, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
the next step is to find brothers and sisters for her. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
And after Ewart's initial detective work, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
the team verify that she did have at least one brother - Jack Myers. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
He was born in 1923 and we couldn't find any other records for him. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
We couldn't find a marriage record, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
but what we did locate was his death record. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
He passed away on 13th February, 2009. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
Again, living in Tower Hamlets, so he hadn't gone far. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Doesn't look like the family have moved anywhere, really. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Jack Myers was an East Ender through and through. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
And, as the team delve deeper into his past, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
they discover that, as a young Jewish lad, aged just 13, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
he had become embroiled in a clash with antifascist demonstrators | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
on his home turf, spurred on by the terror Jews were facing in Europe. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
It was the mid-1930s. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
There was high unemployment, and poverty, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
and people were turning to extreme political parties. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
In Italy, in Germany, fascists had taken power. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
In Spain, there was a bloody civil war going on with fascists | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
struggling to take power there. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
And, in Britain, the British Union of Fascists, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
a new fascist political party, was set up by Sir Oswald Mosley. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
Mosley was a British politician and a close ally of fascist Italy. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
Aged 22, he became the youngest MP in the House of Commons. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
He formed the British Union of Fascists in 1932 | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
and wasn't a fan of multicultural Britain. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
There were immigrants in East End from all over Europe, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
from Germany, from Italy, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
and there was a big population of immigrant Jews in the East End, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
and these were the scapegoat for the British union of Fascists. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
They blamed the Jews for the economic problems that were | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
hitting the East End so very hard. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
The final straw was in October 1936, when the British Union of Fascists | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
planned a march through the streets of the East End. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
It was a deliberately intimidatory act. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
It was October 4th and 100,000 counterdemonstrators came | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
to the streets of the East End to protest against the fascist march. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
There, they blocked Cable Street in an attempt | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
to bring the march to a halt. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:21 | |
There were 10,000 policemen on duty that day to try to force a way | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
through for the fascists to march because they had a right to march - | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
that was their legal right. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
But Jack Myers and his fellow protesters | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
were successful in their mission. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
Eventually, the police realised that the popular feeling in East End | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
was against this march | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
and they re-routed it, and the march fizzled away. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
But the march left around 175 casualties in its wake | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
and the unruly events of that day have since been dubbed | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
the Battle of Cable Street. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
It was a historic day for the East End | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
because it was the first time that people came together | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
from all different communities, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
young and old, Protestant and Catholic, Jew and non-Jew | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
came together to defend the streets of the East End | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
as a place where people must live and could live together. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Back in the office, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
the hunt for Anne Harris's relatives was continuing. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
The team were looking further into Jack's life to see | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
if he had provided any heirs. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
From the information on his record, we know that he was a market trader. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
And... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
..that it didn't look like, from the death record, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
that he had any family, or certainly no children. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
So, the trail for Anne's heirs had reached a dead end, with both | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Anne her brother Jack passing away with no immediate next of kin. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
But it wasn't long before a new clue came to light that would bring | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Anne Harris's case back to life. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Initially from our research, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
we believed Jack was the only sibling of the deceased. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
But, looking at the records, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
and the information that was coming through, it transpired that there | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
was, in fact, another sibling of the deceased, Barnett Myers. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
Up and down the land, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
heir hunters are on the trail of beneficiaries of people who | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
have passed away with no apparent next of kin and leaving no will. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
In an attempt to collate clues and grow family trees, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
they hope to be led to their living heirs. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Hello? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
It's the case of retired factory worker Lesley Palmer | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
that the team from Finders in London are working on today, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
after it came to them via a private referral. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
THEY CHAT INAUDIBLY | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Lesley sadly passed away in a care home | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
in Hatfield in Hertfordshire aged 85 in 2009. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
Ryan and the team have limited information to kick off | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
their search for potential heirs. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
In the instruction, we received his date of birth, date of death | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
and his last known address. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Yes, that was a long shot anyway. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
We thought he owned his property, and we were working | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
on the assumption that the estate was worth over £100,000. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
But since Lesley died over six years ago, it would mean Ryan | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
and his colleagues would have to work a little bit harder | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
to unearth more clues. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
No, on there, you might be able to find a death...on mortality. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
It can cause some issues for us in terms of trying to find out | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
more information on the person. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
This can be because the staff have moved on from the care home | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
that the person was resident in, or it may be as simple as neighbours | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
have moved away from the area that the deceased person had lived. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
While Ryan and the team are hard at work in the office, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
travelling researcher Howard Kleinberg hit the road on the hunt | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
for new information about Lesley Palmer from his neighbours. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
It's the team on the ground who can bring in invaluable clues | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
when the team in the office are faced with a tricky case. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Sometimes, you may know where someone lives. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
But unless you're confident of their name, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
you can't actually find out a phone number, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
so knocking on the door is always the best bet | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
to try and confirm that. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
And neighbours and people in the local area who may know them. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
Howard's been pounding the streets in Hatfield | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
where Lesley Palmer lived, but to no avail. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
We've been to the address which he did live at. No-one at the address. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Knocked on a couple of neighbours' addresses. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Not too many people knew much about him, to be honest. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
He was a bit of a loner. Wasn't aware of his marital status, really, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
and weren't aware of visitors that he was having. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Although the job of a travelling research is a crucial one, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
it doesn't always bear fruit. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
It's a bit sad inasmuch that the guy was obviously known... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
but people are either reluctant to talk about him | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
or he wasn't that well-known. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
After his tour of the neighbourhood, Howard is none the wiser | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
about the life and circumstances of Lesley Palmer. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
This lands even more weight square on the shoulders | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
of the search back in the office. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
The first step for us was to find his birth entry. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
There were none in Hertfordshire, so we had to look further afield. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
We knew that he was born in the December of 1923. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
However, he was born right at the end on 24th December - | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
that's Christmas Eve - | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
and I imagine they would not have been able to register his birth | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
until the following year. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
We jumped to the March quarter of 1924. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
We saw that there were three Lesley Palmer's born | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
in the March quarter of 1924 without a middle initial. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
There was one in Barrow, one in West Ham and one in Bristol. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
We narrowed it down to the one in West Ham, as Lesley | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
passed away in Hertfordshire, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
and this appears to be the closest location. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
The birth certificate is the key to unlocking the door | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
to Lesley's past and to getting the search well off the ground. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
When Lesley Palmer's birth certificate came through, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
we were able to see that his father was Enoch Palmer | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
and that his mother was Julie Palmer, formerly Robinson. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
The occupation of his father was a bootmaker. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Finally, the heir hunters had set off on the road which would | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
hopefully lead them to Lesley's heirs. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
They now knew that he hailed from the East End of London, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
and could start building a picture of his life and where he grew up. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
I think the area was, back in those days, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
was a very tightknit community. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Everybody down the street used to speak to each other and say hello, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
know everybody's names...and, yes, it was a good community to live in. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:03 | |
People didn't move, in those days, didn't move too far away | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
from where their... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
where their parents and grandparents were born and brought up. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
Now they knew who Lesley's parents were, the team could put | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
the information to use to find out if they'd had any other children. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
First, they had to find a record of his parents' marriage. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
There's an Enoch Palmer marrying a Julie Robinson | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
in the September quarter of 1912 in West Ham. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
Given that Lesley's parents were married in 1912 | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
and he was born in 1923, we would anticipate there may have been | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
some children born within that timeframe. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
But, given the First World War, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
there may have been a gap prior to Lesley being born. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
There maybe wouldn't have been as many children to that marriage | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
as there would have been at any other time. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
World War I disrupted families, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
as fathers were enlisted to fight for their country - | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
exactly what happened to Lesley's father | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
nine years before he was born. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
At the war's root was Britain and the Allied forces going | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
head-to-head with Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Enoch Palmer enlisted in the army and, after only four months | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
on the front line, he was taken captive by the Germans. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
He was held in an allied prisoner of war camp | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
called Giessen near Frankfurt. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
He was captured on 12th February, 1916, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
when the enemy mounted a large trench raid | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
against the position that his unit was holding north of Ypres. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
He was one of 39 men captured on that day. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
They were the lucky ones. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
A number of their comrades perished. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
Prisoners of war were not uncommon in these times, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
and, although the men were glad to be alive, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
life in captivity was tough. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
The conditions in the prisoner of war camps | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
generally were fairly harsh. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
Little food, little comfort, men were living in unheated huts | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
and that sort of thing. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
Luckily for Enoch Palmer, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
his time as a prisoner of war wasn't as bad as it could have been. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
The accounts of Giessen show that it's one of the better camps of all. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:17 | |
Very large. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
Huts were built to accommodate the men, thousands of men. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
But, over the years, other facilities were added which | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
at least gave some social life to prison camp day-to-day existence. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
Even so, as the war continued, conditions deteriorated. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
Germany itself also began to struggle economically | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
as the war went by, with increasing shortages of food, in particular, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
and, naturally, this feeds down to the prison camps. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
If the population around is not eating, then you can bet | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
the prisoners of war are going to feel the sharp end of that shortage. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
Not knowing how Lesley's father was, the worry for his mother Julia | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
and the rest of the family was unimaginable. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Enoch would have been able to communicate with his family | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
only very infrequently. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
There was a possibility of sending letters home, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
but he knew full well that there was a censorship regime going on | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
and what he was allowed to say was going to be very limited. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Some men managed to escape, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
but, for those who didn't, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
their liberation came with the end of the war, on November 11th, 1918. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
In many, many of the cities, towns and villages of the country, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
civic receptions were held to welcome them home. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Little parties, street parties, things going off in town halls | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
and the like to welcome the prisoners of war back. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Enoch's nearest and dearest were thrilled to have him home | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
and he slipped back into family life. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Although a picture was coming alive of Lesley Palmer's father, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
it didn't help the heir hunters | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
in their quest to find his living relatives. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
The search was still on for any siblings. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Maybe get us a couple of certs and see. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Once we had Lesley's parents' marriage certificate, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
we established that both of his parents were aged 25 in 1912. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Using that, we knew we had a definitive end date | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
to the birth search for any siblings of Lesley. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
That took us to 1932, so we were really seeing | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
whether there was anybody else born in West Ham within that timeframe. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
In 1932, Lesley's mother Julia would have been 45, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
so the search for siblings of his continued. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
And, as investigations rolled on, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
some surprising new facts about his family history came to light. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
Interesting for us that we found out that Lesley's father | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
and his brother both fought against the Germans but in different wars. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
What he's seen in those five or six years... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-Yeah. -..must have been terrible. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
Every year in Britain, thousands of people get a surprise | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
knock on the door from the heir hunters. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
You tend to sort of think to yourself, "Well, I'm not sure | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
"if this is real or not." So it was quite a surprise. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates on the | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Treasury Solicitor's Bona Vacantia list that are yet to be claimed. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
The first case is that of Constance Sylvia Burleigh Martin, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
who died in Newport on the Isle of Wight on 29th June, 1993, aged 77. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:39 | |
She was born on 21st July, 1915, in Plumstead, London. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:47 | |
Interestingly, she had two aliases - | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
Constance Sylvia Gingell and Constance Sylvia Burleigh Gingell. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
Her parents were Londoners, Lancelot Augustus Hand Gingell, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
who died in 1954 in Sydenham, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
and Dorothy Martin, who died in Lambeth. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
The next case is that of Peggy Lisney, who died on 26th June, 1993 | 0:22:11 | 0:22:17 | |
in the London Borough of Sutton. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
She was born in 1924 in Hendon, which was then in Middlesex, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
on either 15th July or 3rd August, with the name Daisy William. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
She was informally adopted and given the name Peggy Lisney. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
As this was before the 1926 Adoption Act, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
it was carried out without legal sanction | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
and adopted children did not have the rights of natural children. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
However, it also means adoptive relatives | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
can benefit from her estate. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
If you think you might be related to either of these people, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
you would need to make a claim on their estate | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
through the government legal department. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Once again, the names of the cases we are trying to solve | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
with your help today are... | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Heir hunters from Fraser & Fraser in London are searching for | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
beneficiaries of the late Anne Harris' estate. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
Anne was the daughter of an immigrant Jewish family, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
and was born and bred in London's East End. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
When she sadly passed away in 2013, she was 97 years old. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
All the people who are migrating anywhere would have | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
arrived in London and that's because it's close to the docks. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
And, like most migrants, would not have travelled very far, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
so they would have settled not far from the docks. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Anne's parents owned a tobacconist and sweet shop in Poplar, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
but, when World War II broke out in 1939, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
they knew their London life was going to change forever. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
It was in 1940 that the war really hit Anne's family | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
and their fellow East Enders. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
Before then, times were tough, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
but Londoners' lives had not been in danger. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
That all changed when Hitler decided to drop bombs on the capital | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
and the Blitz commenced. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
When the air campaign by the Luftwaffe to bomb London commenced | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
on 7th September, the East End really was their target. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
The East End at that time was the home of the London docks, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
really one of the major, major docks in the world. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
It was also the home of many key industries, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
so the Luftwaffe really saw this as a key strategic target and, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
for the first week of the Blitz, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
they really kept their focus on the East End. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
Residents had to take action to stay safe. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
The government supplied around two million tin shelters, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
called Anderson shelters, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
for people to use in their own homes to protect themselves. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
Around 27%-29% of people had their own shelters outside their home. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
Around 4% of people used the underground | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
and I think many people will be familiar with images of people | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
queueing up to go into underground stations, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
people sleeping on underground station platforms. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
The most surprising thing is that over 60% of Londoners | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
preferred to stay in their own beds during raids. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
But for those who decided to seek safety within the shelters, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
conditions were cramped, dark, cold and damp. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
This shelter would be much, much more secure | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
than simply staying in your own bed during an air raid. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
If we look inside the shelter, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
you'll really be able to see how small it is inside there. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
People really were packed in. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
People would take their own heating with them | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
but there wouldn't be electricity supplied to these shelters. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Living in the heart of the East End, Anne's family home and shop | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
were in the area targeted by bombs. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
The family was evacuated to High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
where they were safer. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
And, after eight dreadful months, the Blitz ended. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
May 1941, when the Germans decided that they would invade | 0:26:05 | 0:26:11 | |
the Soviet Union, as it then was, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
and so the bombing fleet was required for that operation, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
and then London had a relatively calm experience | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
for the next two or three years. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
And Londoners concentrated on recovering | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
and rebuilding their lives, their homes and their city. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
In the office, the team was still hard at work trying | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
to piece together Anne's family tree. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
After learning she had a younger brother, Jack, who had passed away, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
leaving no children, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
the search was going to move back a generation in the hope | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
of finding uncles and aunts who might provide cousins and heirs. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
It was at this point that a crucial new piece of evidence | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
came to the surface. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
It came to light that the executor of Jack Myers' estate, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
when he died in 2009, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
was a Neil Myers. Sharing the family name, who was he? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
The obvious thing for us to do was locate Neil and speak to him, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
try and find out how was he connected to the deceased. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
Unfortunately for us, he was living in the United States | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
and we couldn't actually track him down, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
but what we were able to do was find a birth record for him. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
And from that birth record, we noted that he had brothers and sisters. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
And, from that record, we could start working backwards | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
and tie in his family to our deceased. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Neil Myers' birth records revealed that his father | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
was one Barnett Lionel Myers, also known as Myerovitch. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
With these two surnames listed, the heir hunters surmised that | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Barnett must have had a connection to Anne. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Next, the team had to locate his birth record. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
The reason we had trouble trying to locate the birth record | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
of Barnett was it comes back down to variants of the names. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
Not only were we dealing with a variant of the surname, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
but also the maiden name. In fact, quite dramatic variants. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
So, on the normal search, he wouldn't come up. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
But now we had his Christian name, Barnett, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
we could look at all the variants and really do a detailed search. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
And, eventually, we found his birth record in Whitechapel in 1919. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
And with Barnett's birth record in hand, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
the team managed to trace his parents. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
They discovered they were none other than Lazarus Myerovitch | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
and Kate Maginsky. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Barnett was Anne Harris' brother. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
It was already known that Barnett had one son, Neil, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
so the search had finally borne fruit | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
and an heir of Anne's had been found - | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
something that was a happy surprise for everyone. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
Well, to be honest, I pretty much thought the job was dead | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
because it looked like there was no-one else | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
in the family still alive. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
With one heir finally discovered, next, the team | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
needed to find out if Barnett had any other children | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
in addition to Neil, as they would also be Anne's beneficiaries. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
But the marriage certificate for Barnett couldn't be located, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
so the search had once again hit a brick wall. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
There wasn't anything coming up in England, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
so I decided to have a look and do a world search of the marriage. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
Given Barnett is quite an unusual first name, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
luckily I came up with a marriage in Egypt. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
I discovered that Barnett Lionel Myers married Miriam Moreno. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
They married on 29th January, 1945, in Cairo. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
At 23 years of age, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
while his family were suffering in the Blitz in London, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
Barnett Myerovitch was a sergeant in the RAF, stationed in Cairo. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
There, he met a Jewish Egyptian girl called Miriam Moreno | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
and, in 1945, they were married in Cairo. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
With this vital piece of information, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
the team could find out if Barnett and Miriam had had any more children | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
in addition to Neil, who would also be heirs of Anne's. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
We established that there were four children | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
from the marriage of Barnett. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Neil, who was the one bit of the jigsaw that cracked the case. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
Anne's niece Zoe remembers her aunt very clearly. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
Anne was the elder sister of my father. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
We always called her Auntie Anne. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
She was a very diminutive woman, like her mother. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
I think maybe not more than 4'9", 4'10" maximum. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
My mum said she was quite a stunning woman in her day | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
because she was blonde, and had deep blue eyes, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
and, in a Jewish community, my mum said she could have had her pick. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
Although she was tiny and very fragile, she was extremely tough | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
and tenacious at the same time. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Growing up in a troubled part of London, residents had to be | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
thick-skinned and, as a family, the Myerovitches stuck together. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
Zoe remembers tales of Chalky's, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Anne's father, her grandfather's shop. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
Back in the day, it was very well-known locally. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
It was a sweet and tobacconist's. I don't think it sold newspapers. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
People used to queue around the block for Chalky's Penny Wafers. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
And then, I think, my father went off to war | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
and the shop got bombed out. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
Zoe's father, Barnett, died in 2006. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
Sadly, his death signalled the end of her relationship | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
with her auntie Anne. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
After I lost my father and my mother, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
I tried to...stay in touch with her | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
and offered to make some sort of regular visits to ensure | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
some of her wellbeing, and... | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
she wasn't really open to that suggestion. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
So, unfortunately, as a result of that, we lost touch. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
What started off as a wild goose chase had now come full circle, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
and four nieces and nephews had been found to inherit | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Anne Harris' estate, thought to be over £5,000. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
Quite satisfying, really, that we got to the heirs eventually. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
Today, Zoe is glad to be reunited with memories | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
of her long-lost aunt and of days gone by. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
It is a bittersweet thing because sometimes I would see | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
glimpses of someone that I was really fond of. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
I don't have a large family. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
I was quite keen on the idea and the notion of aunts and uncles, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
and I used to quite like the way she mothered me. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
For some of my childhood, she did figure quite highly. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
In London, heir hunters from probate genealogists firm | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
Finders have been delving into the case | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
of retired factory worker Lesley Palmer. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
Although he was an East Ender, Lesley moved to Hatfield | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
in Hertfordshire, where he died aged 85 in 2009. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:57 | |
He left no will and had no apparent next of kin. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
Yep. If you want to add all of those three possible children to the tree. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:07 | |
The team have discovered | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
his parents were Enoch Palmer and Julia Robinson, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
and were now looking to see if Lesley had any siblings. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
First of all, we would look for other births between a Palmer | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
and a Robinson in the London area. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
We can see that Enoch and Julia had three more children. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
First of all, they had Violet Isabel, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
born on 30th September, 1914. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Once we had Violet's birth certificate, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
we could then do a marriage search for her, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
but also, given that we had her full date of birth, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
it could mean we could jump another step and go directly to | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
identifying a potential death cert for her. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
We can see that there is a Violet I Palmer born in 1914, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
who died in 1964. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
This would mean that she died as a spinster at the age of 50. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
With confirmation that Violet had passed away with no children, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
the search moved onto her younger sister, Gladys. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
We can see there is a Gladys Palmer, who passed away in 1976 in Newham. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
Gladys also passed away as a spinster at the age of 60 years old. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
So, with two sisters providing no nieces or nephews for Lesley, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
the family tree might need to be broadened to take in maternal | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
and paternal cousins, meaning a much bigger workload | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
for Ryan and the team. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
We knew that the Palmer family was very large and we knew... | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
Well, we know from experience that Robinson is not a very easy | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
surname to work with, so, at this point, we're slightly | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
concerned as to how this case may escalate out of control. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
But before they were forced to turn their search to aunts and uncles, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
there was one more name that came to light - | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
an older brother of Lesley's. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
If we were going to find any close kin who'd be entitled | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
to inherit from the estate, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
all our hopes really rested on the line of Ronald Enoch Palmer. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
A Ronald E Palmer's birth record was found on the birth index | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
and his birth certificate was ordered. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
This was how the team would confirm | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
if they had found the right Ronald E Palmer. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
He was born on 4th September, 1919. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
Again, confirming his parents names as Enoch and Julia. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:20 | |
It gives us Enoch's occupation as a boot repairer. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
From having Ronald's birth certificate, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
we then had a look to see if we could find any marriages for him. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Given his age and his father's military background, we had to | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
bear in mind that he may also have been involved in active service. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
Now, the good thing was, when we found his marriage entry in 1945, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
we could see that, luckily, he survived the war. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
He came back and married Hazel, who was about six years his junior. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
We could then hope they may have had children. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
If they had, they would be Lesley's nieces or nephews and his heirs. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
Luckily, we found out that himself and his wife had one son | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
called Brian in 1946 and another called David in 1949. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:06 | |
With the existence of Lesley's nephews confirmed, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
it didn't take long to track them down to Essex. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
My uncle Lesley was | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
a part of my life in the early part of my life. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
We had some holidays together, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
we had some nice times together. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Unfortunately, we drifted apart and had become estranged, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
so it was quite a shock out of the blue | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
when the heir hunters actually phoned me. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
When I was younger, I can remember him being caring | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
and wanting to talk to you, and everything. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
I can remember him being slim. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
Always in a suit and a tie. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
I suppose it was quite upsetting, really, that we found out | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
that our uncle Lesley had passed away. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
It would have been nice to talk to him, and for my family | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
to have met him, to have known | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
that he was part of our family as my uncle. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
After much hard work, the heir hunters were glad | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
they'd finally succeeded in finding Lesley's next of kin. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
Unfortunately, though, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
the early estimate of his estate turned out to be wrong. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
Lesley didn't own his property as they had believed. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
It was a few thousand pounds, but, obviously, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
this is still a welcome sum of money for anybody to receive. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
There was just two heirs. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
In terms of our involvement, it was still a successful case for us. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
The biggest reward that I feel is actually making | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
some sort of contact and put some extra links in the chain | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
of his existence with my own father, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
and the rest of the family. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Lesley's case has made Brian | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
and David consider their own family history. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
Their father, Ronald Enoch Palmer, died in 1993 and | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
at the forefront of their thoughts is his experience of World War II. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
He volunteered to join the Army to go and fight for his country. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
He served in Africa, North Africa. He dropped in Arnhem in a glider. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
He came out, fortunate to get out of Arnhem. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:13 | |
And then he went to Palestine. And, from Palestine, he was demobilised. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:19 | |
I feel very proud of my father because... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
he went through such a lot to give us what we've got today. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
With the memory books opened, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
Lesley's nephews have come to the Royal Artillery Museum in London | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
to learn more about their father's time spent fighting for his country. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
Paul Evans is the librarian here | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
and has access to Ronald Enoch Palmer's war records. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
So, what we have, originally, he enlists, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
and he goes to the 50th Anti-tank Training Regiment, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
so he was going to be an anti-tank gunner. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
So that's his first fighting unit, OK? | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
But that's in the United Kingdom. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
He was at Dover, Dover Castle, for a while. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
-Would that be the time he was at Dover Castle? -Yes. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
That would fit very nicely indeed. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
I think that's where he got a Defence Medal for that. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
There's the 39-45 Star, he gets the Italy Star, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
he gets the War Medal, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
the France and Germany Medal and the Defence Medal. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
So, we know, at some point, he's in Italy. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
We know, at some point, he's in France and Germany. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
And we also know he also does three years | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
defending the United Kingdom, so we know that. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
He then passes a trade test | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
-and is qualified for the appointment as an equipment repairman. -Yes. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
OK, so that's his job. He's now repairing all the equipment | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
that anti-tank regiment and battery are using. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
That's everything, from compasses up to guns. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
From 1943 to 1945, he's with the 1st Airlanding Light | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
and they are part of the airborne forces. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Now, air landing goes with the airborne forces, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
so by glider and by parachute. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
What else did he tell you? | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
He didn't actually tell us what his progress in his career | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
through the Army at all. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
He just came out with snippets. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
It's the development of the airborne forces, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
he's been involved in it from day one. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
But although Ronald Palmer was a member of the airborne forces, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
his wartime experience was not spent in the air, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
like David and Brian believed. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
We know he's an equipment repairman. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
He's not in the glider. He's not the assault troops, OK? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
He's going by ship, later. He's the support staff. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
On 17th September, 1944, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
Allied troops joined forces in the Battle of Arnhem. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
The largest airborne and glider operation in history | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
saw 5,000 aircraft descend on the Dutch city. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
Their aim was to advance into Germany and end the war. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
The combined air and land mission | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
was known as Operation Market Garden. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
Ronald Palmer was part of the operation and arrived by road | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
after the landings had taken place. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
So when we thought he landed in the gliders, he didn't. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
-He was trying to provide them with equipment. -That's it. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
He'd got Germans to the left and right of him | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
and everybody's shooting at him. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
-So where he thought he was, he wasn't. -He wasn't. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
Unfortunately, Operation Market GARDEN was not a success. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
The Allied forces failed and couldn't advance further. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
On the ground, Ronald and his fellow soldiers had arrived late | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
and were greeted with casualties of war. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
He's with the tanks trying to get there. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
-Trying to get through to the... -He's the rescue party at the other end. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
They didn't get there. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
They're the party that didn't get to Arnhem, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
but when they got there, he got there in time to get the survivors, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
so he did a vital role rescuing the survivors. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
They reckon that, if they'd have took Arnhem, that would have | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
-shortened the war, and it would have saved a lot of lives. -Absolutely. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
The mental pressure would be immense on him. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
It must have been really tough, really. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
-He has not had a good war. -No, he hasn't. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
What he's seen in those...five or six years... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
..must've been terrible. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
After the failed mission in Arnhem, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
the brothers know their father was posted to many more countries with | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
the 1st Airborne Regiment before the war ended and he was sent home. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
He found it hard to talk about. He wouldn't talk to us about it. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Yes, absolutely. He doesn't want to remember it. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Thanks very much for going through the history. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
-No problem, my pleasure. -Yes, thank you, Paul. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
And for putting it all together. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Not only had the sad event of Lesley Palmer's passing reconnected him | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
with his estranged nephews, but they'd also been given | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
the gift of adding to their own family history. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
It's all about memories, things that can... | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
we can look at, and see our uncle and our dad together. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
That'll be better for us to see | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
rather than what any money could give us, really. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 |