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Today...

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We need someone. It's urgent.

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Heir hunters race the competition to find beneficiaries

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to an unclaimed estate.

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It's quite a considerable sum of money, so time is of the essence.

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Family members hope to be reunited...

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It would be lovely to see her again.

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That would be one of my last wishes.

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Glass... I think that says bottle-maker.

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..while others are shocked to find new family.

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My first thought was, "Wow! Is this real?"

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Look for him, because we can't find the family in the 1911 census.

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-Yeah, I've done that.

-Maybe just stick to marriages, 1911 up.

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It's 10:45AM

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and London heir-hunting firm Finders are working on

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a brand-new case from the government's Bona Vacantia list.

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This is a case that's just come into us.

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It's the estate of Shirley Diane Street.

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There's just three ads on the list today,

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so I would anticipate this one's going to be quite competitive.

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Thank you, bye.

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Shirley passed away, aged 83, on the 23rd of September, 2015,

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without leaving a will.

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Born in the north-east of England, she worked in London,

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before retiring to the beautiful seaside town of Folkestone in Kent.

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A lot of people move to Folkestone, especially people from London are known to move to Folkestone.

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Weather's always very good here and there's lots of places

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for the elderly to walk along. Some really beautiful places.

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In Shirley's 23 years of being here, she would have seen a very warm

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and friendly town. We all get on very well.

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It's a lovely, friendly, happy place to be.

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In the office, the heir hunters have some initial clues,

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which mean they need to check carefully, to see if Shirley had any close family.

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Shirley was married to a gentleman called

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Patrick Dennis Collins-Street. He passed away in 1994, so they'll find that,

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when she married Patrick, whether they had any children together.

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Shirley's case also has an extra level of urgency.

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We've roughly valued the estate at £200,000.

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It's quite a considerable sum of money, time is of the essence.

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-Pulling this up?

-Yeah.

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With Bona Vacantia cases, we have to work very quickly.

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Not only to find out whether there's any competition that maybe

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would have reached the beneficiaries before we do,

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we also find it helps generally to make initial contact with

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the beneficiaries before anybody else who may be working on the case.

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Ryan needs help, to work the case fast,

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so pulls in case manager, Amy Cox.

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-Could you have a look at her birth family, please?

-Mm-hm.

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They know from the government list

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Shirley's maiden name was Charnock, but records have thrown up

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some interesting previous history for Shirley and her late husband.

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I think he married previously and I think she married previously,

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because she didn't marry under Charnock, so whilst I just

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run over whether there's any children, could you...

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If Shirley married twice,

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it opens up more possibilities for closely-related heirs.

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I just need to figure who they were married to,

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whether Shirley had any children from her first husband.

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Any children found from this marriage would also be entitled.

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And Ryan quickly has his answer.

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She previously married a chap called Anthony Brian,

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I can't find any children to that marriage, so it appears there's not

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any children of the deceased who would be entitled to inherit from her estate.

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Having found no children who could inherit from either of Shirley's marriages,

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the team check to see if she had any brothers or sisters.

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(How's it going, Coxy?)

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-I've got the parents...

-OK.

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-..and I know that she's an only child.

-OK.

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Amy has discovered that Shirley's parents were Clarice Wintersgill

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and Herbert Charnock, who married in May 1929.

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And with no siblings of Shirley to inherit,

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the team need to now go back a generation

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and look at her grandparents on her mother's and father's side,

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to find her aunts and uncles or their children,

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who would be her heirs.

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Means we've got Charnock on the paternal side and Wintersgill on the maternal side,

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so I'll be nice and let Coxy choose whichever side she wants and then we'll see

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how big each side of the family is and then we'll devise stems.

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-Um, I'll take that.

-OK.

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-All right.

-Thanks.

-Good luck.

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With Amy researching Shirley's mother's family,

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she quickly discovers Shirley's grandparents were

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John Wintersgill and Hannah Smith.

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And when she finds them on the census with their children, it looks

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like they might have a mountain to climb, in terms of research.

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-The maternal side's quite big.

-Is it? How's it looking?

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Eight... Well, seven stems.

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With a large family looming and seven maternal aunts and uncles

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of Shirley to find, Ryan steps in to help.

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OK.

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-14...

-OK, so what're we going to do, how should we split this?

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-Shall I take Suzanne and you take Camilla?

-OK.

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It's always good for us in the office to have a few people

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onboard when we're researching a case, when a family tree does

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get a bit out of hand, and we can divide it amongst people in the

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office and also if you're stuck on a bit of research, there's someone

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else that can just cast fresh eyes over the research that you've undertaken.

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You can find this one, then, because I couldn't find her.

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Everyone gets roped into researching one of the seven maternal

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aunts or uncles on Shirley's mother's side of the family.

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Josh, I'm going to leave this with you.

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This is the main tree, this is the other stem.

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-Yeah, I'm thinking, leave that page up and open a new one.

-Yeah.

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Just started doing the first stem of the Wintersgill family, which is

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a John Wintersgill. He died in 1964. He had two children.

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John's two children were Sidney and Kathleen.

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And when they check the military records,

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the team discovered something interesting about Sydney.

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In 1941, as Britain was about to feel the full force

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of Germany on her own territory, Sidney was an RAF pilot.

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This was a very much still in the early stages of World War II.

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We'd been through the Battle of Britain,

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but the country was now coming under prolonged aerial assault

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from the Luftwaffe. It was the Blitz.

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As RAF crew in a bomber squadron, Sidney's role was vital.

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The Bomber Command Offensive was really the only way that we

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could strike back at the heart of Germany.

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So there would have been a real sense that Britain

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was fighting back, we weren't just sitting and soaking up the punishment.

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Sidney was the co-pilot in a Wellington bomber.

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Sidney's job would be very demanding.

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Many nights, he would be getting into his aeroplane with his crew

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and flying off to raid German ports and German shipping.

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He would have been physically very tired, there would have

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been the constant threat of German anti-aircraft guns and the

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German night fighters, so you're constantly worrying about being shot at.

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And also, when you get back to base, every time you return,

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probably some of your squadron mates haven't come back.

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Of course, over a long period of time, it is going to

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take a psychological toll.

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After facing danger so many times, one summer evening,

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Sidney's luck ran out.

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On the 12th August, 1941, his squadron set out from his RAF base

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in Suffolk to bomb German ports.

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It's very difficult to know exactly what happened that evening,

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but fundamentally, the aircraft didn't come back.

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The strong likelihood is that it was shot down by flak,

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by anti-aircraft guns, or maybe shot down by a German night fighter.

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Sidney's entire crew perished that night,

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but their bravery has not been forgotten.

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Sidney could be proud of the contribution he made.

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He gave his life as one of 56,000 Bomber Command aircrew

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who also died in that conflict.

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And for much of the war, Bomber Command was the only way that

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Britain could take the fight to the enemy.

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Back in the office, Amy is checking if Sidney had any children

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before he was killed in action.

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This is Sidney's death record. That he was the son of the Reverend

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John Wintersgill and Ethel A Wintersgill of Lancashire,

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so we're going to take from that that he never married,

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because if he had a wife, then it would have her listed there.

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With Sidney's trail appearing to run to a dead end,

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Suzanne's been working up the line of another uncle, Leonard.

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So, we found that he passed away, married,

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and that he had two children and I've just found addresses

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for them and possible telephone numbers,

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so I need to give them a call.

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-Have you found any heirs yet?

-Suzanne has.

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Suzanne makes a call to the first potential heirs,

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children of Leonard Wintersgill.

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Yeah, he had brothers and sisters, didn't he?

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OK. When would be the best time to speak to her?

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All right, thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

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-Sounded like it went well?

-Yeah.

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-Have you not heard from anyone else?

-No.

-Where's she based?

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-She is in Ormskirk.

-OK, so it's Lancashire.

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Have you already put a warning out to reps in Lancashire?

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I managed to speak to one of the beneficiary's husbands

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and he confirms that it was the correct family.

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So, I've organised for one of our representatives to go round

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and see them about 4pm today.

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With some heirs found,

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Ryan can breathe a sigh of relief as they appear to be ahead of the game.

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Hello, is that John?

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Hiya.

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But out on the road, they've got nobody in the area to make a visit.

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And they know the competition is not far behind them, in terms of research.

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Now, it's really urgent for us to try

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and get some people out to see the beneficiaries. I know we're struggling so far.

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When heir hunters look into family trees, they can uncover distressing cases

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of loss and separation, tempered with heart-warming stories

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of generations united by a skilled, but forgotten, trade.

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The case of George Douglas Clarkson proved to be one such case.

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He was born on the 21st of July, 1926, in Castleford, West Yorkshire,

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but lived for many years in London,

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before retiring to Honiton in Devon.

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George Clarkson would have enjoyed living in the area.

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It's a beautiful place to be. Devon itself has the rolling hills

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and it's a lovely, green area.

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His next-door neighbour would have been on hand, as well,

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as the local people, the farmers and the community there,

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would have been there to help with anything that he needed.

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George passed away on the 24th of November, 2004, without a will.

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But it was almost a decade until

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his estate was advertised by the government as being unclaimed.

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Hi... That's OK. Are you free to talk or...?

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Case manager Richard Fryer, from heir-hunting firm Hoopers,

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picked up his case.

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It's not unusual for a fair amount of time

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to lapse between a person passing away

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and their estate being advertised by the Treasury Solicitor.

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It should arrive today, hopefully.

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But in George's case, there is an unusual circumstance

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which led to his estate being advertised so long after his death.

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The team discovered he'd shared his property with a female companion.

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There was no romantic involvement,

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they just, we think, enjoyed each other's company.

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This carried on until George's death in 2004, after which

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we understand that the lady was allowed to

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live in the property, as long as she maintained its upkeep.

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And it was only upon her death some years later that the matter then

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had to be referred to the Treasury Solicito, as the property was empty.

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George had fully owned the property,

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so there would be a substantial sum for potential heirs to inherit.

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Richard got stuck into working out George's

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circumstances in the later years of his life.

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Although we've had indications early on that he was a bachelor,

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nevertheless, we had to check the marriage records thoroughly

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and we found no trace that the deceased had ever married.

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-Yeah.

-Of course, OK.

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The team couldn't find any children of George's, either.

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So with no immediate family to inherit, the team would now need

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to find George's parents from his birth certificate,

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in order to work out if he had any siblings.

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George's parents were Thomas Clarkson and Alice Gilfoyle

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who married on Christmas Eve, 1921, in Pontefract.

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The team called in Jonathan Wright to help, one of their most

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experienced researchers, who's been an heir hunter most of his life.

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I was 18 years old and I decided I'd work for a year,

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have a, kind of, a gap year and I decided I rather liked the job

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and I'm still here 25 years later.

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Jonathan quickly got to grips with George's case.

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Fairly early on, we identified in the birth records

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a brother of George Clarkson,

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Johnny Clarkson, but he didn't actually survive infancy.

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So, of course, it meant that chances are,

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we would be looking further afield, to more distant,

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extended family members.

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Today, Jonathan is visiting a registry office, to pick up

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records of George's grandparents

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which will help them to find any aunts or uncles

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who would be in line to inherit.

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We found out that the maternal grandparents were

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Thomas Arthur Gilfoyle, who married an Ellen in Ireland.

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According to the census records,

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the Gilfoyle family came over to England in the early 1900s.

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Quite typically, Irish families at that particular period of time

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do tend to be more likely to be on the large side.

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We quite like the challenge of investigating a large family,

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but it can be frustrating, if we find that is difficult.

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But, equally,

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it can be very rewarding.

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It turns out our original assumptions were correct.

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The family was sizeable, to say the least.

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Thomas and Ellen Gilfoyle had a total of 11 children.

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We knew at this stage that there would be a lot of work ahead of us,

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so everyone every last one, however many,

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would need to be found and accounted for.

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Of Thomas and Ellen's 11 children,

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ten of whom were George's aunts and uncles,

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eight of them went on to have 36 children between them,

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many of whom would be heirs or whose children would be heirs.

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The heir hunters were absolutely swamped with people to trace.

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We couldn't believe just how big

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this part of the family tree had become.

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We did have to establish, furthermore, that various

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parts of the family had moved abroad.

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And not only that,

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but because George Clarkson had died quite a long time ago, in 2004,

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it transpired that a number of heirs in the matter

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had since that date passed away themselves.

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Case manager Abigail Rising

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was drafted in to help research the case.

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This is one of the biggest family trees that I've ever had to work on.

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This culminated in many, many hours of research for us.

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-Is there anyone else outstanding?

-I don't think so.

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As the team tackled the huge job of contacting heirs,

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they looked at one of George's cousins, Catherine Taylor.

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Catherine Taylor herself had been married.

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She married a Denis Evans in 1936

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and, in turn, had three children of her own.

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Catherine passed away in 1987,

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meaning her three daughters were now beneficiaries.

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As the team tried to locate the three potential heirs,

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their research revealed that one of them, Kathleen Evans,

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had a glamorous job in the 1960s,

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as a private chauffeur of luxury cars.

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It would have been very unusual to be a female chauffeur in the 1960s.

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Almost all the chauffeurs that I'd ever heard about were men.

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And the car Kathleen drove wasn't just for anyone.

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The kind of people who bought a car like this would have been

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probably very well off and they probably would have wanted to

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show their status to everyone who was keen to see it.

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So it would have been businessmen, primarily,

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politicians, possibly, but also

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people in the media industry and entertainment.

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And this was the sort of car you might have bought yourself

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as a reward for doing well, no matter what you did.

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And being one of only very few women doing her job,

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she could have been hand-picked by whoever she was driving.

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I mean, a female chauffeur in a car like this would have been,

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possibly, very much in demand with 1960s celebrities

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in the music or film industry.

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I can imagine a chauffeur like Kathleen being

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taken into the confidence of the person she's driving around.

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I mean, the car is quite intimate.

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If it's been a hard day filming, maybe,

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or a hard day recording, this car is a bit of an oasis.

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I mean, you look at the really comfortable, warm leather interior,

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the nice environment

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and then somebody like Kathleen to drive you home.

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I think this car would have been just the kind of thing that

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somebody who did work hard in the media would have enjoyed using.

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Kathleen and her sisters would be George's cousins, once removed

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and, therefore, heirs to his estate.

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But the heir hunters couldn't find any trace of Kathleen,

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and when they located her estranged sister, Marion,

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they discovered a second astonishing fact about this unusual woman.

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Kathleen was about 30

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when I last saw her

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and she telephoned me to say, where did my parents live?

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I always remember because she said, "Where do your parents live now?"

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Not 'our parents', which seemed a funny thing at the time.

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Because they moved and I told her

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and I think she stayed overnight that night

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and the next morning, I saw her at my parents' house,

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and that was the last time I ever saw her.

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About 47 years since I last saw her.

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With Kathleen missing for almost half a century,

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when the heir hunters contacted Marion, her hopes were raised.

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When Hoopers came on the scene, I thought,

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"Oh, they're bound to find her now."

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So, I was very thrilled about that.

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I was more thrilled about that than the inheritance.

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But the heir hunters struggled to shed any light

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on Kathleen's whereabouts.

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When you hear from a family member that someone hasn't been

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seen for that long, then your heart does start to sink

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and you wonder how difficult it will be to find them.

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And even the National Crime Agency's Missing Persons Bureau

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struggle to find people who have disappeared

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almost half a century ago.

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In more modern cases, you'll have DNA fingerprint evidence

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that can be retrieved from a home,

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which will help you find somebody

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or help you identify somebody,

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but in the older cases, it's actually very, very difficult

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and people's memories fade about what the person was like

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and how to describe them.

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And without that true detail of the person,

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it's very difficult, then, to find someone later.

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Kathleen's disappearance has deeply affected her family.

0:20:000:20:03

My mother was very ill with cancer and I remember her saying she would

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have loved to have seen her before she died.

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And then, my father died about 12 months afterwards.

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And he would have loved to have seen her, too,

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but it was just impossible to find her.

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I would love to find her.

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I would love to see her. I would love to contact her.

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Marion and the heir hunters are hoping someone with

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information about Kathleen will someday come forward.

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Until then, her inheritance will remain in trust.

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Right, and as far as we know, she's the only one.

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-Yes.

-Right, OK.

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Other than Kathleen and her sisters,

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the team had found an incredible 74 heirs to George's £230,000 estate

0:20:520:20:58

on his mother's side alone.

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Oh, hello, Malcolm. It's Mike.

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But there were still potentially

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more to uncover on his father's side of the family.

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After the sheer volume of research on the maternal side,

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we were hoping that perhaps the Clarkson side

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might be slightly smaller.

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But a rare twist of fate would mean

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the heir hunters' hopes were misplaced.

0:21:230:21:26

Oh, that's... No, there's no urgency, at all.

0:21:260:21:30

Our collective hearts probably sank slightly

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at the thought of there being not just one,

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but two very large families.

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Every year in Britain, thousands of people

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get a surprise knock on the door from the heir hunters.

0:21:450:21:48

Good morning.

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But there are still thousands of unsolved cases,

0:21:520:21:55

where heirs need to be found.

0:21:550:21:56

Could you be one of them?

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Today, we've got details of two estates on government

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legal department's Bona Vacantia list that are yet to be claimed.

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The first is Edith Alice Bolton who died on 13th April, 1990,

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in Ashbourne, Derbyshire, at the age of 87.

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Edith was born on 25th November, 1902, in Stoke-on-Trent,

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and her mother's name was also Edith Bolton.

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But do you know a Bolton family from the Staffordshire area?

0:22:250:22:29

The next case is that of Dorothy-Violet Bruce-Ambrose,

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who died on 8th November, 1988, in Lewisham, London, aged 71.

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Dorothy could have been born in Scotland in 1917

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and she married a Robert Bruce-Ambrose,

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who died in 1963.

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Her maiden name appears to be Dorothy Sherborne-Dutton.

0:22:480:22:52

Do you know anything that could help solve the cases

0:22:520:22:55

of Dorothy-Violet Bruce-Ambrose or Edith Alice Bolton?

0:22:550:22:59

Perhaps you could be next of kin?

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If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way.

0:23:010:23:05

Camilla, do you mind just ringing Bristol Registry Office

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-and seeing what the process is for getting certs locally?

-OK.

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Back in London, at heir hunting firm Finders,

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Ryan and the team are on the trail of the relatives of Shirley Street.

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Amy and Suzanne are tracking down heirs on Shirley's mother's

0:23:260:23:29

side of the family.

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Ryan, there wasn't an answer.

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Do you regret taking the maternal side now?

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Meanwhile, Ryan is researching Shirley's father's

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side of the family.

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Her father was Herbert Arthur Charnock,

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born in 1900, who Ryan thinks he's found on the 1911 census,

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living with his parents and siblings.

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We are left with six children on the paternal side living in 1911,

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and one of those is the deceased's father, obviously.

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Then, we're looking at five stems on the paternal side.

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So, it is not too bad.

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We just need to find out exactly what happened to each of them.

0:24:020:24:05

The 1911 census is one of the key census records we look at.

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It has some extra information that the previous ones don't

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and also, it gives us how many children the couple have had

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and how many have subsequently passed away.

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So, it's a snapshot of the family, but, for us, we can go and fill

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in some of the gaps on the family tree just by taking a look at it.

0:24:230:24:28

Camilla, I might need you to just send a line for me.

0:24:280:24:31

But with five potential aunts and uncles of Shirley's to find,

0:24:310:24:34

Ryan recruits researcher Camilla to help.

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-So, could you see if you could find this family on 1901?

-Yes.

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So, probably look for John and Jane, the paternal grandparents.

0:24:410:24:45

Surname Charnock. Let's get cracking with trying to find some heirs.

0:24:450:24:48

Despite being tantalisingly close to finding heirs,

0:24:500:24:53

Ryan is faced with a problem.

0:24:530:24:56

Do yours have middle names?

0:24:560:24:58

Yeah.

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There's quite a few John Charnocks born in around the same time.

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They're all from Lancashire.

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-She doesn't have a middle name, does she?

-No.

-No.

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Camilla's looking into the line of Jane Charnock.

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Jane is not such a common first name as John, that I'm looking into.

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But we're working around it.

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Quite often for us, it's better if you have at least one middle name,

0:25:260:25:29

so we know who you are!

0:25:290:25:31

Distinctive middle names are really useful for us

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when we are conducting an heir hunt

0:25:340:25:36

and doing the family tree, simply because it helps us

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set the records apart from any other variations that may be correct.

0:25:390:25:44

Actually, Camilla, I'm just having a think about this whole situation.

0:25:440:25:48

And something is troubling Ryan about the middle names.

0:25:480:25:51

I just need to go back to what we know,

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because the dad was Herbert Arthur H Charnock.

0:25:530:25:56

I need to just figure out we've got the right census.

0:25:560:25:58

It would be unusual for no-one else to have middle names

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and then for him to have two middle names.

0:26:010:26:04

-If you can go back to stage one...

-OK.

0:26:040:26:06

..just make sure you've definitely got the right census.

0:26:060:26:09

Ryan suspects they might have been

0:26:090:26:10

looking at the wrong family entirely.

0:26:100:26:12

-I'll have a look as well and see if we can see anything else.

-OK.

0:26:120:26:15

Shirley's father's full name was Herbert Arthur Charnock

0:26:150:26:19

But the Herbert Ryan has been looking at

0:26:190:26:21

has no middle names, at all.

0:26:210:26:23

-Different census?

-Yes.

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And then, Camilla has a breakthrough.

0:26:260:26:28

-Herbert A H?

-Yeah.

-Oh, cool.

0:26:280:26:31

So, he's just got one sister, Marion, at that point.

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That changes it completely, yeah. OK. Right.

0:26:340:26:38

Camilla has discovered another Herbert Charnock

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on a different census.

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Have we got them in 1911?

0:26:420:26:44

This Herbert Charnock matches Shirley's father perfectly

0:26:440:26:47

as he has the correct two middle names.

0:26:470:26:51

We just found a different census entry for the deceased's father.

0:26:510:26:57

It's a much smaller family.

0:26:570:26:58

The deceased's father was one of three, instead of one of six.

0:26:580:27:03

We now know we're on the right track

0:27:030:27:04

and it should be a lot easier for us.

0:27:040:27:06

From the census,

0:27:060:27:07

they can see Shirley's grandparents were actually William Charnock

0:27:070:27:10

and Elizabeth Jones.

0:27:100:27:13

As well as Shirley's own father, Herbert Charnock,

0:27:130:27:16

they had two other children, Marion and Rhoda.

0:27:160:27:20

With precious time lost on the wrong family,

0:27:200:27:23

Camilla and Ryan will have split the research.

0:27:230:27:26

-Camilla, who do you want to look into?

-I like Rhoda.

0:27:260:27:29

Ryan makes short work of finding Marion Charnock.

0:27:290:27:33

She married Horace Hall. They had a child called Horace.

0:27:330:27:36

He was born in 1925 and I think he is still living.

0:27:360:27:41

I found out, actually, his address is sheltered accommodation

0:27:410:27:44

for senior citizens, so I can give them a call.

0:27:440:27:47

Hello, good afternoon. I wondered whether you could help me, actually.

0:27:500:27:53

I'm calling from a firm of heir hunters

0:27:530:27:55

and we trace missing beneficiaries to estates.

0:27:550:27:58

Now, we're working on a Hall family tree and I believe

0:27:590:28:02

you may have a resident at your home by the name of Horace Hall.

0:28:020:28:07

Yeah, he was born in 1925, married to Constance.

0:28:070:28:11

Oh, right, OK.

0:28:110:28:12

I'm sorry to hear that. When did he pass away?

0:28:120:28:15

Yeah, you've been very helpful. Thank you very much.

0:28:160:28:19

Cheers. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

0:28:190:28:20

The gentleman I spoke to confirmed

0:28:220:28:23

that, actually, Horace has passed away.

0:28:230:28:25

He couldn't confirm exactly when, but he did confirm that Horace

0:28:250:28:30

has a son, so we need to now trace that son.

0:28:300:28:34

And Ryan quickly tracks down Horace's son, John Hall,

0:28:340:28:38

who would be Shirley's first cousin, once removed.

0:28:380:28:41

We had a gentleman on our family tree who

0:28:410:28:44

I believe was your father, Horace Arthur Hall.

0:28:440:28:48

Oh, are you? Oh, right. OK.

0:28:480:28:50

Are you at that address today?

0:28:500:28:53

OK, fantastic.

0:28:530:28:55

All right, well, I'll let you go and then we'll give you

0:28:550:28:57

some paperwork later on today

0:28:570:28:59

and, obviously, everything will be explained in there in more detail.

0:28:590:29:02

OK, fantastic. Thanks.

0:29:020:29:04

Cheers, Mr Hall. Bye-bye.

0:29:040:29:05

That's good.

0:29:080:29:09

We've spoken to the only beneficiary on the line

0:29:090:29:12

of Marion Charnock.

0:29:120:29:15

He's confirmed the stem that he's on.

0:29:150:29:17

A nice conversation. He wasn't too fazed by our phone call.

0:29:170:29:22

We just need to arrange a rep to go and see him.

0:29:220:29:24

He's actually up in Lancashire today, where the family are from.

0:29:240:29:28

With at least one heir found, Ryan checks in with the rest of the team.

0:29:280:29:32

No other heirs?

0:29:320:29:33

And finds out they are having difficulty getting

0:29:330:29:35

an available travelling researcher.

0:29:350:29:37

Everyone else is going to voicemail.

0:29:370:29:39

Not good enough, quite frankly. Not good enough.

0:29:390:29:43

If we can't find anyone else, we'll...

0:29:430:29:46

You've got three heirs.

0:29:460:29:47

Potentially, four. I'm finding her.

0:29:470:29:49

Just going to try and get an idea of how many heirs there is.

0:29:490:29:52

-THEY LAUGH

-Everyone's just dying.

0:29:520:29:54

It's quite a small family.

0:29:540:29:56

There's not too many heirs, actually.

0:29:560:29:58

In terms of competition, we haven't really come across any yet.

0:29:580:30:01

So, again, it's, kind of, all going quite well.

0:30:010:30:04

But Ryan's confidence is misplaced.

0:30:040:30:07

Hello, is that John. Hiya.

0:30:080:30:11

Oh, really?

0:30:110:30:12

There's usually a couple of companies

0:30:160:30:18

that look into these things.

0:30:180:30:20

Essentially, it will be down to you...

0:30:200:30:22

It appears another company has called John minutes before Ryan has.

0:30:220:30:27

Thanks, bye-bye.

0:30:270:30:28

It would be the first whiff of competition we've had in this case.

0:30:300:30:33

So, now it's really urgent for us

0:30:330:30:35

to try and get some people out to see the beneficiaries.

0:30:350:30:37

We need someone. It's urgent.

0:30:380:30:41

I don't mind sending someone if they're just a couple of hours away.

0:30:410:30:45

Yeah, I get that, as well.

0:30:450:30:46

We send out a representative to visit the person.

0:30:470:30:51

If someone's on holiday, we can know straightaway.

0:30:510:30:53

If they've recently moved, again, we can know straightaway.

0:30:530:30:56

OK, cool.

0:30:560:30:57

Ryan finally gets visits booked in and he can breathe a sigh of relief.

0:30:570:31:01

We had a slight panic, because we couldn't get

0:31:010:31:03

anybody in Lancashire, but we're just sending someone

0:31:030:31:06

from a bit further afield

0:31:060:31:08

and everybody that's due a visit, will get a visit.

0:31:080:31:11

And we've made first contact with everyone

0:31:110:31:13

we've spoken to and we've completed

0:31:130:31:15

the majority of work into the family tree.

0:31:150:31:18

So, it's all been a really good team effort today.

0:31:180:31:21

All in all, the team identified ten heirs

0:31:240:31:26

on Shirley's mother's side of the family.

0:31:260:31:28

But John Hall, Shirley's cousin once removed, is the sole heir

0:31:310:31:35

to Shirley's estate on her father's side,

0:31:350:31:37

and he was shocked to find out

0:31:370:31:39

his small family was larger than he thought.

0:31:390:31:42

The day that the heir hunters got in touch with me,

0:31:420:31:45

it was an absolute, complete surprise.

0:31:450:31:48

Shirley Street is a bit of a mystery to me.

0:31:480:31:52

Everything that I've learnt about Shirley Street

0:31:520:31:55

has come from the heir hunters.

0:31:550:31:57

And, indeed, I wasn't even aware

0:31:570:31:59

that my grandmother Marion had a brother,

0:31:590:32:02

who Shirley is descended from.

0:32:020:32:06

And John is still dazed by the revelations.

0:32:060:32:08

The whole experience in the last

0:32:080:32:10

three weeks has been quite bizarre.

0:32:100:32:13

To think I could be inheriting some money

0:32:130:32:17

from someone I didn't even know existed.

0:32:170:32:21

And while they didn't sign all the heirs to the estate,

0:32:210:32:24

Brian is happy to have helped John Hall receive his inheritance.

0:32:240:32:28

Given that he's the sole paternal heir,

0:32:280:32:30

and he's due a fifth of the estate,

0:32:300:32:32

it's not too bad, and we'll now move forward with that information,

0:32:320:32:35

to ensure that everybody who's entitled will receive their share.

0:32:350:32:39

Thank you so much for letting me know. Bye.

0:32:390:32:42

In terms of research on family history,

0:32:450:32:48

I've not done any, whatsoever,

0:32:480:32:50

so I haven't actually quite got my head round it yet.

0:32:500:32:53

So, the more that emerges,

0:32:530:32:55

I think, the more fascinating the whole thing will get.

0:32:550:32:59

In London, the team at Hoopers heir hunting firm are investigating

0:33:090:33:12

the case of George Douglas Clarkson, who passed away in Exeter in 2004.

0:33:120:33:18

Although they have found an incredible 74 heirs so far,

0:33:260:33:29

the team had only uncovered half the family.

0:33:290:33:32

We couldn't believe just how big

0:33:320:33:34

this part of the family tree had become.

0:33:340:33:36

We did have to establish, furthermore, that various parts

0:33:360:33:39

of the family had moved abroad.

0:33:390:33:42

After the sheer volume of research, on the maternal side, we were

0:33:420:33:47

hoping that, perhaps, the Clarkson side might be slightly smaller.

0:33:470:33:52

The heir hunters started looking at George's

0:33:520:33:54

grandparents on his father's side,

0:33:540:33:56

to look for George's aunts and uncles,

0:33:560:33:59

with fingers crossed for a small family.

0:33:590:34:01

Moving over to the deceased's paternal family,

0:34:010:34:04

we identified the birth entry

0:34:040:34:07

for his father, Thomas Clarkson, in 1893.

0:34:070:34:11

Thomas Clarkson was the son

0:34:110:34:13

of Edward Israel Clarkson and Ada Smith.

0:34:130:34:17

But the heir hunters' hopes were drastically misplaced.

0:34:170:34:20

In total, including the deceased's father, they had nine children.

0:34:200:34:24

And we must make sure that someone, at least, has confirmed

0:34:240:34:29

the extent of the family tree, to back up all that.

0:34:290:34:32

Again, our collective hearts probably sank

0:34:320:34:35

slightly at the thought of there being not just one,

0:34:350:34:38

but two, very large families that would need to be accounted for.

0:34:380:34:42

This is one of these rare cases where all nine children, in fact,

0:34:440:34:47

did live well into adulthood.

0:34:470:34:50

So, it looked very likely that Thomas Clarkson's eight siblings

0:34:500:34:56

potentially could all have married and had descendants.

0:34:560:34:59

Bear with me. I'll just go and get the file.

0:34:590:35:03

The normal pattern with, let's take a Victorian family,

0:35:030:35:06

is that they would have a large family and the tendency

0:35:060:35:09

was for only a certain proportion of them to survive.

0:35:090:35:13

But, occasionally, we get cases

0:35:130:35:16

where they all survive, against the odds,

0:35:160:35:19

and that, obviously, means a lot more work for us.

0:35:190:35:23

And when they found the census record for George's grandfather

0:35:260:35:30

and uncles, the team came across a fascinating family occupation.

0:35:300:35:35

The 1911 census showed us that the deceased's paternal uncle

0:35:350:35:39

John Clarkson, as well as his father, Thomas,

0:35:390:35:41

all worked in the local glassworks in Castleford.

0:35:410:35:45

We have noticed that, in past times, certain trades

0:35:450:35:49

and skills were passed down from generation to generation.

0:35:490:35:52

It's an interesting way of linking the generations with that

0:35:520:35:56

same kind of occupation and also linking the area to that trade,

0:35:560:36:01

if it's particular to that area.

0:36:010:36:04

Further discoveries on the census also revealed that

0:36:050:36:08

one of George's glass-making uncles had gone on to have a family.

0:36:080:36:13

No, I think, again...

0:36:150:36:18

A couple of people I spoke to, they knew of him.

0:36:180:36:20

The deceased's paternal uncle, Richard Clarkson,

0:36:200:36:23

was married to a Mary Shepherd.

0:36:230:36:26

They had a son, Richard Roland Clarkson,

0:36:260:36:29

who was married to an Olive Liversedge,

0:36:290:36:31

and they, in turn, had four children of their own,

0:36:310:36:34

who would be cousins, once removed, of the deceased.

0:36:340:36:37

One of them, Richard John Clarkson, passed away in 2001,

0:36:380:36:42

but he had three children, who would be heirs to George's estate.

0:36:420:36:47

Oh, nice!

0:36:470:36:49

Susan McAuley is George's first cousin, twice removed,

0:36:490:36:52

who was shocked when she got the call from the heir hunters.

0:36:520:36:56

My first thought was, "Wow! Is this real?"

0:36:560:36:59

Other family members had had similar phone calls.

0:37:000:37:04

The accents of the people who were down in London

0:37:040:37:06

and the phone call matched with everything, so I had no doubts

0:37:060:37:09

it was genuine and it was just really quite exciting.

0:37:090:37:12

Obviously, the first thing you tend to think of is, which you do, is,

0:37:130:37:18

"Ooh, how much money am I going to get?"

0:37:180:37:21

After that, your thought are that this relative was living

0:37:210:37:23

so far away, that I didn't know existed.

0:37:230:37:26

George Douglas was an unusual name and it got me

0:37:270:37:30

really interested in tracing the ancestry of the family.

0:37:300:37:35

The census 1911, where Edward Israel Clarkson was

0:37:350:37:38

eight on one of those, he's now 49.

0:37:380:37:41

And after some investigating,

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Susan and her family have discovered a link to George's past.

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Her father also worked in the glassworks of Castleford

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and appears to have been the fourth generation of Clarksons to do so.

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Glass founder. So we know that comes way back into our history.

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His children. Glass... I think that says bottle maker.

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The resemblance of the family just goes... I mean, he could be him.

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-Dad could be him.

-Yeah.

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Castleford in West Yorkshire was one of the pioneering

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areas of glass bottle production in the late 19th-century,

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which George's father, uncle and grandfather were all involved in.

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His grandfather, Edward Israel Clarkson,

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is likely to have begun when it was a skilled, handcrafted industry

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with individuals undertaking the risky business of blowing

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molten glass into bottle shapes, at temperatures of over

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1,700 degrees centigrade.

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Today, Susan, her sister and mother

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are visiting a glassworks run by Kate Jones...

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How are you doing? Welcome!

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..which still follows the traditional method

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Susan's great, great grandfather,

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Edward Clarkson, would have recognised.

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Well, we've been here 20 years

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and we've been blowing glass all that time.

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And we blow glass as it was made pretty much before

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the Industrial Revolution.

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How long does it take you to produce something like this?

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Something like this?

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About... Just over an hour.

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Maybe more, maybe less, depending on how well things go.

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Because glass-blowing, like any other process,

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once you've started, you can't stop and have a cup of tea.

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You've got to see it right the way through.

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And now, they can actually see a glass bowl made

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in the traditional method.

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You can feel the heat in here, can't you?

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You can feel how warm it is in here.

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The glass-makers have got to make sure

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they've got enough water on board.

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They're wearing quite light, minimal clothing,

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to keep their bodies cool.

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You get a tolerance, you know. You do get a tolerance.

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Basically, if you go to a dinner party,

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the glass-makers could hand all the dishes round.

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You go to a restaurant, they say the plate's hot,

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and we're like, "Give it here!"

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Yeah, Stephen's blowing a bowl.

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This is the first stages of making a bowl.

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-He's starting again.

-He's starting again.

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The colour's on the blowing iron

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and he's just gathered the glass from the furnace.

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He's blocking it and shaping it with paper, to cool the outside,

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so when he blows, there's some resistance

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and it's cooler at the bottom of the bubble.

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So when he blows, the bubble will be thicker at the bottom

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and thinner at the sides,

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which is where you want it for the structure of your bowl later on.

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And, of course, there's one way to get it right,

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and there's 1,000 ways to get it wrong.

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Twiddling it round, all the time, isn't he?

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Got to turn it all the time.

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If you stop turning, gravity will do its thing.

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-Make the sides go.

-It will just run to earth.

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Reconnecting with her family's past

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could open a new chapter in Susan's life.

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What a rewarding day, coming to see glass being made as it was made

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hundreds and hundreds of years ago.

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To actually see it going into a furnace,

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coming out of the furnace, molten on the end of a rod,

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seeing it cooled and seeing them actually blowing the glass,

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it's been absolutely amazing.

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I would love to have my own furnace and blow some glass.

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You never know!

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Susan's also thankful for the inheritance

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she's receiving from George.

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I would have loved to have known

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more about George Douglas Clarkson and his life.

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We've actually found a photograph on the internet

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of the house that he lived in

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and I would love to visit that house,

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to actually try to get a feeling for the person that he was.

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Back in the office, the paternal side of George Clarkson's tree

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was being wrapped up.

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Upon finishing the paternal side of the family,

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we found the total beneficiaries numbered to 16.

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This meant the whole case had over 90 beneficiaries in total.

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It's very difficult to account for every single individual

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on any case, let alone where there are 90 people.

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So, when you have a large number of beneficiaries

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and you are able to account for each one of them,

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it's very satisfying.

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All right, thanks, Mr Hadley. Bye-bye. Bye.

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There's still the outstanding case of Kathleen Evans,

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George's cousin, once removed, on his mother's side,

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who is still missing.

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But the team haven't given up hope of finding her.

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To do our work, first and foremost, you need to be a detective.

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You need to have tenacity, you need to have the belief that there

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is always an answer out there

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and, really, to never give up.

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And no-one hopes more than Kathleen's sister, Marion.

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I could never understand why or how somebody could not want

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to contact their sister.

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It would be very strange to see her.

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Whether she'd even feel like my sister after all these years.

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I don't think I'll ever see her again.

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She may not even be alive now.

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Even that, I would rather know, yet the mystery remains.

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For now, the search for Kathleen continues.

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