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Today, our heir hunts travel far and wide | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
in a bid to discover long-forgotten families. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
On there and you might be able to find a death. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
In London, a family home goes up for auction... | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
£170,500. Sold. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
..but have the team found anyone to inherit the cash? | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
While another team are working on a case | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
which reveals a story of true love born out of war. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
It was a romance that lived a long time | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
and I believe that they were still happily married | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
when she passed away. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
With cases pulling at both heart and purse strings, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
it's rarely a smooth ride for the heir hunters. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Today is an important day for case manager Mike Pow | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
and the team of heir hunters | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
at London-based probate genealogist firm Fraser & Fraser. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
-Go on and find... -Shall we have a look? -Yeah, we could check. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
They're bringing to a close a case they began some months ago - | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
that of Enid Sykes, a retired department store worker from Leeds. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
I'll let you know if I hear anything. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
Enid was born on the 4th of June 1928 | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
and died from pneumonia aged 86 on the 5th of December 2014. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:27 | |
With no known next of kin and leaving no will, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
it's Mike and the team's job to track down her beneficiaries, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
or her assets will go to the state. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
So, I wasn't 100% certain. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
Enid's estate included her house, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
which is going under the hammer today. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
We are offering you a vacant three-bedroom semidetached house. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
This has a guide price of £135,000. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
£136,000. Thank you. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Enid had lived in her home for several decades | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
and lovingly tended to her roses. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
It was shared passions which drew her to her neighbours. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
When I said, "I'm a keen gardener," | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
she was delighted and we just became friends from there. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
She absolutely loved animals. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:14 | |
-She loved animals and gardening, especially dogs... -Yeah. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
..and...and politics. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
She was a very petite, very frail-looking woman. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
However, her strength of character shone through enormously, didn't it? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
Enid's case was brought to the attention of the heir hunters | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
via a private referral. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
Even though it came to them directly without being advertised | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
on the government's unclaimed estates list, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
Mike and the team have to act quickly | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
as there could still be competitors hot on their heels. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
The first thing that we did, as we do with any case, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
is to see if she owned the property that she was residing in, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
which it turned out she did. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
And then from then, we'd obviously try and find the next of kin | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
as quickly as possible. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
Travelling researchers hitting the road is a great place to start. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
On every estate that we look at, it's imperative that we get | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
as much information about the deceased as early as possible. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
The best way that we can achieve that is by sending | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
one of our travellers to make enquiries at the property | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
of the deceased. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
We can get an awful lot of information | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
that may help with our research from that. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
She was fabulous. As I say, she was a very interesting woman. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
She very, very rarely said anything about herself. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
She talked about animals, she talked about television | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and the programmes she'd watch. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
-She'd talk about politics and she'd talk about gardening. -Yeah. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Other than that, she was a woman of mystery. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
From the traveller's enquiries, he didn't really find out much, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
although she was a single woman that was living on her own. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
It turns out, in this case, that she'd never married, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
and she was born Enid Sykes on the 4th of June 1925 | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
in the Leeds registration district. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
It was because Enid's surname was the same | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
on both her birth and death records | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
the team were able to confirm she had never married. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
The next step was to order her birth certificate | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
to find out who her parents were. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
From Enid's birth certificate, she's Enid Sykes | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
born to Bertie Henry Sykes and Edith Sykes, formerly Dixon. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:19 | |
The next step is to identify her parents' marriage | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
and then also see if she's got any siblings, as well. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
When searching for children of Bertie and Edith, only Enid came up. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
Our next step is to go back a generation | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
to see if we can find any aunts and uncles | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
and also cousins of the deceased. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
As an only child with no siblings | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
and an unmarried woman with no children, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Enid's family tree would need to broaden in the search for her heirs. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
-In that quarter. I mean, that age. -Well, that's... | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Any living aunts or uncles would be entitled to inherit her estate | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
and if they had passed away, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
it would go to their children - her cousins. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
The next job was to locate Enid's parents' marriage certificate. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
They married on August the 18th, 1923. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
Edith Dixon was 22 and a spinster at the time of marriage | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
and her father was John William Dixon. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Bertie, on the other hand, he was 27 at the time of marriage. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
He was a grocer and his father was John William Sykes | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
who happened to be a motorman. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
With this information in their grasp, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
the team continued their search | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
with Enid's father Bertie's side of the family. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
It turns out that his surname was quite common at the time | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
in the North of England, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:44 | |
but luckily, the combination of his first and middle names | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
were rather more unusual. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
The fact that he was called Bertie Henry | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
is quite a good combination of names, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
which led us onto his birth record relatively easily. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
From Enid's father Bertie | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
and mother Edith's marriage certificate, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
the heir hunters establish that Bertie was born in 1896. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
With this information, they were able to locate his birth record, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
which led them to his parents, Enid's grandparents - | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
John William Sykes, a domestic coachman, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
and Mary Tryphena Sykes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
Having found Enid's grandparents, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
the heir hunters could then start branching out | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
to find her aunts and uncles. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
This is the marriage certificate of the paternal grandparents. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
They married on the 12th of December 1895. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
John William Sykes was 23 and a bachelor. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
His rank was a groom. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
Mary Tryphena Leach was 20 years old at the time of marriage. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
She was a spinster. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
The certificates that were being uncovered | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
revealed more than just Enid's relatives' names. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
They also showed the steady rise of her paternal grandfather's career. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
Living in or near the countryside, as John did, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
working with horses was a popular choice of profession. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
John, when he was a groom, would be responsible for grooming the horses, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
turning them out, making sure their feet were picked out, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
that they got the shoes on... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
If they lost a shoe, they wouldn't be going to work | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
and as they say, "No foot, no horse." | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
..and preparing it in that way. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
And then harnessing up and getting yourself ready to go. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
In 1896, just one year after John William Sykes' marriage, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
his son Bertie, Enid's father, was born. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
His birth certificate gives more insight | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
into John's career progression. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Here is Bertie's birth certificate. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
John William Sykes is the father and the occupation is coachman domestic. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
So, after much hard graft in tough conditions, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
John was rising through the ranks. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
A coachman then is actually driving, is in control of the horses. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:59 | |
Whether he is a professional coachman | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
working for a private family... | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Like the Duke of Devonshire | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
or the Duke of Northumberland or anybody | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
would have their own professional coachman | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
and that was quite a high status symbol. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Coachmen may have been respected, but their job wasn't an easy one. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
In John's era, it would be a hard life | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
because you're out in all the elements. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
As a rule of thumb, really, for thinking how long | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
he might have been driving in a day, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
40 miles was a good day's work for him. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Very long hours cos when you got in at night-time, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
you've still got the horses to see to. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
Undo the rein and work your way up. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
But the hard workers would have reaped the rewards of their efforts | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
in a valued profession. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
If they were a professional coachman working for a big establishment, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
they were very well looked after and he would have a really nice house, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
good livery, good food. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
His pay would be good. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
Not only did Enid's family's birth and marriage certificates | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
give an intriguing insight into her grandfather's career, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
but with her grandparents' names both confirmed, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
the team could now check if they had any other children | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
in addition to Enid's father Bertie. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
We tried to locate them on the 1911 census, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
which we then discovered as John being the head of the household | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
with his wife and also living with Bertie, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
the father of the deceased, and he had two sisters - | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
a Florence Ethel Sykes and a Hilda Sykes. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
The heir hunters were slowly moving in | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
and Enid's heirs were now in striking distance | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
with two aunts found. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
And as they advanced further, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
another fascinating fact about her grandfather | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
John William Sykes came to light. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
On his son Bertie's marriage certificate, dated 1921, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
his profession is down as motorman. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
And by 1927, on his daughter Hilda's marriage certificate, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
he'd risen to chauffeur. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
John William Sykes evidently worked hard and moved with the times. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
We'd seen that the father of the deceased | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
had gone from working with horses | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
all the way up until working with cars, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
which shows the transition in that period of time. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
At the auction, Enid's Leeds home is up for sale | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
and causing quite a stir. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
The guide price is £135,000 | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
and the latest bid is already considerably higher. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Third and final time, then, are we all done at £155,000? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Ooh! That was late, wasn't it, sir? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
It's against you at the far back of the room. It's here at 161. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-I'm looking to you, sir, for 162. -161,500. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
162, sir. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
162 and a half then? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:40 | |
-163. -Good. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
It's fine. It's here, then, at 164,000 for the first time. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
-164,000 for the second time. -166. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
166. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
169 now, sir. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
170, may I say? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
And a half. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
It's £170,500, then, at the very back of the seating. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
For the first time. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:58 | |
170,500 for the second time. This is it, sir. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
You're going to lose it. It's going to go. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
For the third and final time at £170,500. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Sold... Well done, sir. ..at £170,500. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
That's over £35,000 more than Enid's house's guide price, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
gone to the highest bidder in the room. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
With a sale in the bag and more cash than expected, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
all the team need now are heirs to inherit Enid's estate. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
He fought everyone else off and he won it | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
and that went for a good price, I think. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Up and down the country, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
heir hunters are on the trail of beneficiaries of people | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
who have passed away with no known next of kin and leaving no will. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
By gathering clues, they can grow family trees | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
and be led to living heirs. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
Hello? | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
In London, heir hunting firm Finders have taken on the case | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
of retired store manager Cyril Desborough. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
I think it might have been that one that I printed out. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Cyril was born on the 22nd of June 1923 | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
in South London | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
and died in Bognor Regis on the 31st of October 2013 aged 90. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
His last years were spent in a care home | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
where he was much loved. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Cyril had a very dry sense of humour. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
He was a very private person... | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
..but there was a little twinkle there | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
that he would really sort of get you going | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and you'd realise that he was having a joke with you. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
Yeah, he was quite a little character in his own way. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Cyril lived in a bungalow in Bognor Regis | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
before he moved to the care home | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
and his neighbour Roger remembers him fondly. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
I only came to know Cyril when we bought the bungalow | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
next door to him in 2002. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
And even then, we didn't get to meet him straightaway. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
And it wasn't until his garden was very overgrown in the front | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
and I went out and cut the grass down | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
and pruned his roses for him, which he was very pleased with. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
And then we started getting talking to him | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
and at that moment, he said he'd like us to call him Des | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
rather than Cyril, which is what we did. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
And then he started to... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
In payment for doing the gardening, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
he used to leave big bags of bananas and tubs of ice cream | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
on the back doorstep after he'd been shopping, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
so I used to thank him. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:49 | |
It was up to Ryan and the team | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
to find the missing pieces of the jigsaw | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
that made up Cyril's past, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
create his family tree | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
and begin the search for any living beneficiaries to inherit his estate. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
His case arrived by private referral, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
but as it also appeared on the government's unclaimed estates list, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
other heir hunting firms could also be on the trail, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
so the race was on for Ryan and the team to find heirs. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
The main job of an heir hunter once we have a new estate in | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
is really just to get cracking | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
on finding the correct links | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
between people and tracing the beneficiaries. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Ultimately, if we can't find any surviving heirs, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
the estate would pass to the government. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
In the information that was provided to us, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
we knew that the approximate value | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
of the estate was £100,000. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Because the case was a referral, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Ryan was fortunate to have a head start | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
and a relatively unusual name to aid his research. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
So, with a gift of a name on his side, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
it didn't take long for Ryan to locate the first vital record. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
So, we consulted the marriage indexes | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
that we have access to in the office. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
We didn't see anything that really jumped out at us. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
We did see a possible marriage entry for a Cyril S Desborough | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
marrying in Italy. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
The information that we got from Cyril's marriage certificate | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
was that he had been in World War II in Italy. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Cyril spent eight years representing his country | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
on more than one continent. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
On the 16th of February 1942, in the middle of World War II, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
Cyril enlisted in the army, and two months later, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
joined the Royal Army Ordnance Corps | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
and was posted to North Africa the following year. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Here, the Allied forces were regaining territory | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
captured by Germany and their allies. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
This is actually one of the critical and pivotal battles | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
of the Second World War. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
It's the first substantial British victory against the German army | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
and by depriving Hitler's forces | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
of access to North African oil, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
it had a long-term impact on the final outcome of the war itself. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:11 | |
Although Cyril wasn't a fighting soldier, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
his job was a crucial one. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
The Royal Army Ordnance Corps really does deal with the logistical issues | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
of getting supplies to the front line. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
So, we're looking about division of the army | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
that is going to deliver everything | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
from the individual bullets all the way through to tanks. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
So, it's a critical support role | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
that Cyril would have been involved with. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
After little more than a year serving in North Africa | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
and enjoying Allied success, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
the troops moved across land and sea to Italy, one of Germany's allies. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
Cyril and his colleagues would have been involved | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
in the land invasion of Italy. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Based from North Africa, there was engagements with Sicily | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
and then onto the toe of Italy itself. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
Mustering an army to take on the Italians from North Africa | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
took a great deal of planning | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
and it meant that the execution at every level | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
had to be done precisely. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
Getting the supplies where they were needed was critical | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
as part of that process. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
And at this time, Italy made an about turn. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
What has happened is that Italy has agreed | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
to actually surrender to the Allies... | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
..meaning that, to a certain degree, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
German forces are now in a "hostile nation." | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
Although embroiled in the heart of the war, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Cyril did manage to have some breathing space | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
and socialise with the locals. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Cyril and his colleagues in the ordnance supply | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
would have had one advantage - | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
they would have been sufficiently distant from the front lines | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
to actually have time away from camp | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
to actually participate in the communities a little more freely | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
than might otherwise be the case. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
And I think the interesting thing from Cyril's records | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
is that he's been able to pick up Italian in three years. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
Being able to interact with those you are working with | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
outside of an army environment, you know, it makes it home for you. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
Italy had turned its back on Germany and its fascist regime tumbled. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
Cyril met his Italian sweetheart Anna, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
and remained in the country for some years. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It's quite common to see armies stationed overseas | 0:18:31 | 0:18:37 | |
developing relationships with the locals. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
Anna may well have found Cyril an interesting prospect | 0:18:42 | 0:18:48 | |
as a Brit who, by that time, spoke Italian reasonably well. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:54 | |
Someone who had the prospect of taking her away | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
from a war-torn country | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
and the opportunities of starting anew back in London. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
Cyril and Anna were wed on the 2nd of August 1947 in Italy. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
It says that he was in the army and was a bachelor | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
before he got married at 24. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
His wife Anna was 17 and she was also a spinster. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
This marriage certificate was useful for our research | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
as we were able to then check whether or not Anna and Cyril | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
had any children from this marriage. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
After they married, the happy couple moved to England together | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
and Cyril left the army later that year, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
but enlisted as a reserve some years later. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Although his army records gave clues to his whereabouts | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
during the war years, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
there was no hint as to whether he and Anna | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
had gone on to have children after they wed. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Given that we didn't really know anything about Cyril | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
before this case came into us | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
and accompanied by the fact that he married an Italian lady, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
there's always a strong chance | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
that he may have had children over in Italy. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Now, having children in Italy is not something | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
that we would have been able to search from the office quickly | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
during the initial investigations, so we'd have to come back to it, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
carry on with whatever we could do from the offices in London | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
and that meant, when we were coming back | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
to search the indexes here in England, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
we had two rather unusual surnames to be working with. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
We had the surname Desborough | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
and then the mother's maiden name of Mattiello. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Now, we didn't actually come across any children | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
in the searches that we undertook | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
and therefore that meant we were going back | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
to look at Cyril's birth family. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
-See if you can get this. -Yeah. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
And while the team in London | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
were continuing to look into Cyril's past, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
they handed over the search in Italy to an Italian agent | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
to delve into Anna's early life. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
So, the Italian researcher was able to tell us | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
that Anna was born in Naples in 1930. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
It appears that she moved to Orsenigo in 1945, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
just after the war. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Unfortunately, she was actually not living with family in Orsenigo, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
so therefore we couldn't find out | 0:20:59 | 0:21:00 | |
whether or not they had had any children there. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
However, it appears that this is where she would have met Cyril. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
It turned out Cyril and Anna had no children in Italy | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and the search for heirs returned to the UK, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
where the team had to confirm Anna was no longer alive. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
We found out, actually, that Anna passed away in 1999. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
She passed away in Chichester, which isn't too far away from Bognor Regis | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
where Cyril was living, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
so we were pretty sure that this was going to be Anna's death record | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
and therefore there wasn't any spouse or any children | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
that would inherit from the estate. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
With close next of kin ruled out, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
plus confirmation that Cyril hadn't remarried after Anna's death, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
the team now had to widen the net on their search for his family. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
That's too old, that's too late, that's too late... | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-So, I think we have to just... -..that's too old. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
And when they threw the net out, they didn't expect to catch | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
the surprising information that came back. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
In reality, we almost missed out on half of the heirs because of this. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Every year in Britain, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
thousands of people are taken by surprise | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
when they receive an unexpected visit from the heir hunters. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
You tend to sort of think to yourself, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
"Well, I'm not sure if this is real or not." | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
So, it was quite a surprise. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
on the Government Legal Department's unclaimed estates list. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
The first case is McDonald Best, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
born on the 25th of August 1925, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
possibly in Georgetown, British Guiana. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
He was 85 when he died on the 7th of April 2011 | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
in London in the NW8 postcode area. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
McDonald Best was also known as St Clair McDonald Best. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Next, it's the case of Kamal Bhan. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
She was born on the 20th of August 1934 | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
in India, possibly in Goa, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
and died on the 26th of April 2011 in Barnet, Hertfordshire | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
when she was 76 years old. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
It is believed that Kamal was divorced | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and may have a brother living in India. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
If you think you may be related to either of these people, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
you would need to make a claim on their estate | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
via the Government Legal Department. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
And if you ARE their next of kin, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
you could have a windfall coming your way. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
In London, heir hunters from Fraser & Fraser | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
are investigating the case of Enid Sykes, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
a retired department store worker from Leeds. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Enid passed away aged 86 in December 2014 | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
and so far, no heirs to her estate have been found. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
She was a really intriguing person. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
For her absolute starkness and forthrightness, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
she had a real warmth about her. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
We loved her, I've got to be honest. We really, really cared about her. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
Enid's home went under the hammer at auction today | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
and it was rather a hot property. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
So, Stainbeck sold, in the end, for £170,500 - well over its guide. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:32 | |
In fact, we smashed its guide into smithereens. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
With cash in the bank, the team were now more determined than ever | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
to find Enid's beneficiaries to inherit her estate. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
After researching her father's family tree, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
two aunts had been discovered, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
one of whom - Hilda - had married. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
If she'd had any children, they would be Enid's heirs. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
And while research continued, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
the heir hunters were now also looking into | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Enid's mother's side of the family. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
The maternal side of the family was slightly more difficult, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
due to the fact that she had a relatively common surname in Dixon. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
We had to do the same as we did on the paternal side | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
and try and locate any brothers and sisters that she may have had. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Mike and his colleagues followed the same path as they had | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
when researching Enid's father's side of the family | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
and they discovered a sprawling family tree. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
-Check under these addresses... -Yeah. -..to see if it pops up. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
Enid's mother, Edith Dixon's parents, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
were John William Dixon and Jane Elizabeth Cockcroft. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
They'd had six children, including Edith. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
And see if we can fit a pattern together there... | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
Once we'd established the siblings, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
the next stage is to try and locate marriages for those siblings. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
And once that's done, hopefully try and locate | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
what would be cousins of the deceased. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
And by doing so, the heir hunters finally manage | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
to trace heirs of Enid's on her mother's side. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
Her aunt Emily had two children, Gordon and Norma, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Enid's first cousins. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
And from this branch of the family tree, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
the team found six heirs. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
John Henson, from Redcar in North Yorkshire, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
is Gordon's son and Enid's first cousin once removed. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
I do remember the road that she lived on | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
and her name was mentioned, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
but as far as seeing Enid Sykes, I cannot recall. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
John's parents and his four siblings emigrated to Australia in 1973 | 0:26:30 | 0:26:36 | |
when he was a young man of 20. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
He became estranged from his wider family, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
who remained in England, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
so the call from the heir hunters came as a big surprise. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
Then the inheritance that's involved, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
I feel as though it's a bit of a shock. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
Not speaking to Enid and not knowing her at all, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
I'm a bit confused what to do with the inheritance. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
If I get the money, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
it will probably go to charity and some of my family | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
and it will be mentioned to the family where it's come from. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
With John confirmed as one of six heirs | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
on Enid's mother's family tree, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
news came in about her father's side of the family and his two sisters. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
After locating the paternal aunts of the deceased, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
we established that Florence died a spinster without issue, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
but Hilda obviously married a Thomas Alfred Hamer, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
had children who led to the first beneficiaries on that side. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Hilda and Thomas had two children, Derek and Sheila, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
and from this branch of the family tree, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
three more heirs had been found. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
After concluding the research, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
it appears that, on the maternal side, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
we have quite a few beneficiaries. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
It looks like there's going to be one, two, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
three, four, five, six, seven, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
eight, nine, ten, 11, 12 in total. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
On the paternal side, we know there's three, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
so it looks like there's going to be 15 heirs to share the estate. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
OK, we're allowed to get someone to do that | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
if there's no-one to do anything today. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
It's been a tough case to crack, but the team have done it | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
and found Enid's rightful next of kin. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
It's quite a successful case in the end. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Obviously, we've located all the beneficiaries to Enid's estate | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
and also, at the end of the day, the auction went very well | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
and the property sold for about £170,000. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
So, John Henson will be one of 15 to inherit a share of Enid's estate. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
Since he received the call from the heir hunters, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
childhood memories are slowly beginning to trickle back. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Today, he's decided to take an emotional trip down memory lane. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
I'm now on my way to Stainbeck Lane, Enid Sykes' house... | 0:28:45 | 0:28:51 | |
..that she's lived there for many years. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
I'm 62 now, so I can remember visiting | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
when I was about eight, nine, ten, 11, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
but I'm sure it's down here somewhere. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
It's definitely on a hill, which I remember on the right-hand side. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:10 | |
And there it is, 172. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
I do remember, yeah. Definitely. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
Yeah, I can remember knocking on that door as a child. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Here we are. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
The sad event of Enid's passing | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
has reunited John with his long-lost cousin. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
That's the one. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:34 | |
Nice to be back after all that time. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
It must be 50 years, 54 years ago probably. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
52 years ago. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:42 | |
Aha. Here we are. I remember the rose bushes. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
I always seem to remember there was roses on the right-hand side | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
as you go through into the back. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
So, it'll be lovely to just have a look | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
and see if the roses are still there all this time. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
I'm sure they will be cos there's roses everywhere, yeah. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I'd hoped... | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Yes, we're getting in the back here. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
A year after Enid died, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
her garden sadly isn't as spectacular as it once was. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
Yeah, the roses were along here, you can see. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
Yeah, they're still here but they're everywhere. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
Now John's early memories have come flooding back, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
he wants to find out more about Enid in her later years. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -I'm John Henson. Here to talk about Enid. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
-I'm Stephanie. -Hello, Stephanie. -Hello. And I'm Sarah. -Hello. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
-A very petite woman. -Yes, yeah. -She was very robust. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
She used to walk up this hill, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:45 | |
-which is a killer of a hill sometimes. -Yes. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
But she used to walk with her little dog. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
-And she lost the dog - it died - and she really missed it. -Oh, yeah. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
And we had a Rottweiler at the time, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
and she used to want to look after it, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
so we'd take the Rottweiler down, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
-and it used to sit in the house with her. -Yeah. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
But she'd walk up and down the hill. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
Very robust, very independent. Didn't ever want help from anybody. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
-So, she was on her own for a long time? -A very long time. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
She once mentioned that she'd had a sweetheart. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
-That's the only thing she ever... -Yeah? | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Enid never really talked about herself, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
but every now and then, she'd give you a little snippet, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
and that was Enid. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
The thing is it seems as though she's had a happy life. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
That's nice to know. Nice to meet up with her neighbours. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
All the best, John. Take care. Safe travels. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
'Amazing to find out a lot more about Enid,' | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
and was a really happy lady till the end, from what I can make out. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
So, meeting them two lovely ladies today has been very interesting, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
and hope to meet them again | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
cos they were pretty special in Enid's life, by the sounds of it. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
In London, heir hunters from Finders are working on | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
the case of retired store manager Cyril Desborough from Bognor Regis. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
I might give them a call. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Yeah, do you want to give them a call? | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
Cyril was living in a care home, and he was 90 when he died in 2013. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:16 | |
He left no will and had no apparent next of kin. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
So far, clues to Cyril's past are thin on the ground, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
but the team do know that he met an Italian girl | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
when he was stationed in Italy during the war. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
There was a girl that used to run messages in between the camps, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
and he was saying she was very fit and she used to run for miles. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
She was only a teenager, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
and it turned out she later became his wife. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
But despite a marriage spanning over half a century, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
Cyril and his wife Anna never grew their family, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
and she passed away 14 years before him. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
So, with no spouse or children to inherit his estate, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
the team had to move on. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
So, the next step for us would be to go up from Cyril, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
find out more about his parents, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
find out, particularly, what their names were, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
when they married and then conduct a birth search | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
for any siblings of Cyril from that date of marriage onwards. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
And Cyril's birth certificate gave researcher Camilla | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
the information she needed. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
We are able to see that he was born on the 22nd of June 1923. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
His father was George Desborough, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
his mother was Ethel Helen Desborough, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
formally Judd. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
So, at the moment, I'm looking to see if I can find a marriage | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
between a Desborough and a Judd in Lambeth | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
as this was where Cyril was born. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
This confirms that George and Ethel were Cyril's parents, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
and therefore the marriage between a Desborough and a Judd, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
which we found in Lambeth, was the correct one. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
Having obtained a copy of Cyril's parent's marriage certificate, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
we knew that they were married on the 30th of June 1912. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Now, there's nothing really unusual about the details given to us | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
on the marriage certificate, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
but one interesting point to note was both of the parents | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
were living in a Peabody Trust property in 1912, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
and this was an early form of social housing. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Peabody Buildings was founded in 1862 | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
by George Peabody, an American banker, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
diplomat and philanthropist. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
His mission, which still stands today, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
was to provide a good home, a real sense of purpose | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
and a strong feeling of belonging to Londoners. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
He'd been born in Massachusetts | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
in 1795, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
but came to London to further his business career, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
settled in the city of London in 1837 | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
and made a great fortune. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
He decided to give money to good causes | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
in both Britain and America, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
and in London, the money he gave to his first five trustees, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
which eventually amounted to £500,000, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
was used to build model dwellings for working Londoners. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
The estates the trustees built | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
consisted of blocks of flats with shared facilities. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
The flats were cleaner and healthier than the slum dwellings | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
in which many of the people had previously lived. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
It was widely regarded as a privilege | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
to be living on a Peabody estate | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
and to have better accommodation and better prospects in life | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
than many of their contemporaries living in the surrounding streets. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
Residents were working people on low incomes | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
being offered affordable housing, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
but they had to be respectable tenants | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
and abide by the estate's rule book. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
There was quite a long list of rules which had to be strictly obeyed. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
The tenants had to take it in turns every morning | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
to sweep the steps and the entrance halls. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
They had to take it in turns also | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
to clean the windows of the laundry room and the bathhouse. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
It was on a Peabody estate in Stamford Street | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
near Waterloo in South London | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
that Cyril's parents Ethel and George's paths | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
most probably first crossed. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
They both lived there with their respective families. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
In 1911, Ethel was 22 and George, 21. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
By 1911, when we know that Ethel and her family | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
were living at the estate, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
although many of the older generation | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
were still following the manual occupations | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
that we find in the early tenants from the 1870s, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
the adult children were in, perhaps, slightly more elevated occupations. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:22 | |
They were working as shorthand typists, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
bank clerks, pupil teachers | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
or, like Ethel, a pianoforte teacher. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
George worked as a labourer. He probably worked long hours, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
but the fact that they both had occupations | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
meant they were well able to afford the rent for a flat on the estate. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
And their details can be seen in the original record book. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
This is the tenant register for the Stamford Street estate, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
which shows all the tenants living in each flat from 1875 onwards. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:57 | |
And it's open at the page for Flat 10 in Block M, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
which consisted of two rooms. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
The rent was four shillings per week. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
And on the 13th of March 1911, George Desborough became the tenant. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:13 | |
His occupation is shown as labourer. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
George Desborough's weekly wage was 27 shillings, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
and the family consisted of himself, aged 26, and his wife, aged 24. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:27 | |
By the time Cyril was born in 1923, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
his parents had left the estate | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
and had moved further south to Herne Hill. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
In the heir hunters' office, now Cyril's parents had been found, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
the search for any siblings of his could begin. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
When looking up births for a Desborough | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
with the mother's maiden name Judd, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
we are able to see... | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
..that there were three possible births. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
First of all, Cyril, | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
then he perhaps has a brother called Kenneth | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
and also another brother called Leslie. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Next was the search for death records for the brothers, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
and when they were traced, there were marriage certificates to find. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
These, in turn, would lead to Cyril's nieces and nephews - | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
his heirs. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
Leslie passed away in the Lambeth area in 1976. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
He married a Hilda in 1945, and they had one son called David. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
Therefore, we had found our first heir to the estate of Cyril. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
Well, when they said that | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
Cyril Desborough had passed away, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
it immediately came to mind that I knew who he was - | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
my uncle Cyril. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:43 | |
My first feeling was, "Oh, what a shame," | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
because I hadn't known the guy for so many years. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
My memories were of a very nice chap and his wife. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
And for this to come out of the blue was quite a bit of a surprise. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
David also remembers Cyril's wife. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Anna, when I first met her, she didn't speak hardly any English. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
I think she was only about 15 when they met. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
But it was a romance that lived a long time, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
and I believe, as far as I'm aware, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
that they were still happily married when she passed away. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
So, when we found David, we were able to give him a call | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
and just really speak to him about the family tree. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
In this case in particular, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
it was very useful for us to have done that. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
Without speaking to David, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:38 | |
we wouldn't have found the extent of the family | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
that, eventually, we did. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
Next for the team was to research Cyril's other brother | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
to see if he had any surviving descendants | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
who would also be Cyril's heirs. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
We then started to look into Kenneth. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
He passed away in 2002 and married an Irene in 1942. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
He had four heirs to his estate. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
So, Cyril's family tree had now come alive | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
and sprouted new branches providing a total of five heirs. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
But after speaking to the heirs, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
Ryan and the team discovered that this wasn't the end of the story. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Having spoken to the family, they actually informed us that | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
there was a further three siblings that we'd missed | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
during the initial research. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
So, the names of the three siblings was Alice, Alfred and Ruby. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
Now, we were initially using the surnames Desborough and Judd, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
which were the surnames of Cyril's parents when they married. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
Now, the reason that we didn't pick up on | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
these three birth records initially | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
was because Cyril's mother was actually registering them | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
as her maiden name being Payne, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
and this left us wondering, "Why Payne and not Judd?" | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
I think the Desborough case highlighted the importance | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
of speaking to and questioning thoroughly the beneficiaries | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
because having established there were nephews and nieces, | 0:40:54 | 0:41:00 | |
we really had to be sure that they were either the only ones entitled | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
or that something hadn't been missed. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
It seemed that Cyril's maternal grandmother, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
whose married name was Judd, may have remarried a Mr Payne. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
So, it looked as though Cyril's mother Ethel | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
had switched between both maiden names when registering her children. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
The key information we use along with dates | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
when we do the research is surnames, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
so, you know, there was no reason for us to suppose | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
that we should be checking for Desborough Payne | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
as well as Desborough Judd. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
The team had all of the information they needed | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
to complete Cyril's family tree and locate all his heirs. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
This was a satisfying case to complete. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
We were able to identify and locate nine heirs | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
who will all be due to a share of an estate worth about £100,000. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
So, you know, it's really rewarding financially, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
but also really satisfying that we managed to overcome | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
the problem with the surnames and crack the case. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
And Cyril's nephew David | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
is glad to have been given the chance to remember his uncle. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
It would have been nice to have met him | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
and just to be able to shake his hand | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
and say, "Hello, old chap. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
"I'm the son of your brother Leslie." | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
But sadly, that can't happen now. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
I think he would have been happy | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
that the money has gone to blood family. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
It wasn't a huge amount. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
Probably worked very hard through his life to get what he got. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
And I spent what I got on a roof repair, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
so I put it to good use. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
I think Cyril was one of the residents | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
that we all remember for a long time | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
because it was just his own personality. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
He just shone, really, and so he really sticks in your memory. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:55 | |
Cyril may be gone, but he's not forgotten. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
I think this one's my favourite, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
where he's got that twinkle in his eye, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
which he never, ever lost. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 |