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-Today... -Hang on, let me get stuff up. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
..the race is on to find heirs to an enormous fortune. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
I knew she had a lot of money, but I didn't think it was 1.3 million. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
A family's history reveals the ordinary women | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
who changed the face of Britain. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
They did something amazing, incredibly brave. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
And in Cheshire, the heir hunters tackle a 25-year-old case. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
So this is good. We're getting closer now. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Across the country, the hunt is on. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
With millions of pounds waiting to be claimed, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
It's 2pm in Merseyside | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
and heir hunter Saul Marks has an urgent mission | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
in a hunt for heirs. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
The case we're working today is Edith May Percival. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
She was from north-east Cheshire. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
The case is one of the toughest Saul has ever tried to crack. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
We actually started work on the Percival case nearly 18 months ago | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and, for one reason or another, it's been quite difficult. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Saul is part of Celtic Research, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
an heir-hunting company with offices around the UK. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Hi, this is Hector Birchwood. I'm returning your call. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Edith Percival's case was started by colleagues in London | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
but as Saul is local to where she was born, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
it has fallen to him to try and crack it | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
and today, Saul has a critical lead on Edith's family. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
We're going left here. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
And he's racing to the local archive to check it out. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
"No access to Bridge Street." Fine, all right! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Saul is feeling the pressure, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
but he's also excited to be doing some old-fashioned research. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
You've got a little mystery here and it's quite sort of romantic, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
in a way, that there are some things which you still can't get online | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
and you've got to come and do the actual work, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
um, in the actual archives and touch history and feel history. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:08 | |
Love it! Fantastic stuff! | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
Edith May Percival was born on a farm in rural Cheshire in 1918 | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
but retired to nearby Knutsford in the 1970s. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
I'd lived here, next door to her, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
for probably about 12, 15 years. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
Edith was a pleasant but shy neighbour. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
She be spending time in the front garden | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
but she always kept the hedges well-trimmed | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
and just kept herself to herself. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Very private, very quiet. You hardly used to see her, really. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
You'd hardly hear that she was there. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Edith passed away in 1991 | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
with no will or any close family to inherit her estate. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
The case passed to the government's legal department, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
where it remained for 24 years, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
until Saul and the team picked it up. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
If a case remains unclaimed for 30 years, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
it can then be claimed by the Crown indefinitely. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
So, there's a certain cut-off point | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
and you find yourself working cases that are old, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
thinking, "We've not got much time left to crack this | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
"or it's all going to go to the government." | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
And time pressure wasn't the only incentive. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
The team believed the case was worth at least £60,000. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
Which means it's a fairly high-value case and, if we can solve it, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
there'd be plenty of money for the heirs. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Today, Saul is heading to the Cheshire archives | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
to dig deeper into Edith's maternal family. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
Edith's mother was Hannah Scarisbrook Foster | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
and she was the youngest in a family of Fosters. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
She actually had three brothers. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Saul has hit a dead end for these brothers, uncles of Edith's, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
whose descendants would be her heirs. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
But Saul has a trick up his sleeve. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
He thinks the Cheshire newspaper archive from 1928 | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
will have vital clues about one of her uncles, James Davies Foster. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
James, on his death certificate, it showed that he died of meningitis | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
but that there was a postmortem with an inquest. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Now, hopefully, that inquest will have been covered by the local press | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
and the idea is that, hopefully, we'll find a nice report | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
which will mention his two surviving brothers and where they lived. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
No-one had been able to successfully trace these three uncles | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
over the last 20 years, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
so any new information about them would be crucial. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Saul's mission is to find out if any of them had any children | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
who could inherit Edith's estate | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
or whether all three died without heirs. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Right, it's just down here on the left. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Right, let's go to work. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
But there is no guarantee Saul will find what he needs at the archives, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
making today's work a complete gamble. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Hi, I reserved some newspapers. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
-You've got a booking, haven't you? -I have. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Many people don't realise the amount of risk involved. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
We can take them over to where you can look at them. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
There's an awful lot of time that we put into cases | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
which, quite often, comes to nothing. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
That's huge! | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Saul is looking for any mention of James Davies Foster | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
or his two brothers, which could give clues | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
to whether they married or had children. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
There you go. July 28th. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
He zones in on newspaper reports | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
which would have covered James's death in 1928. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
In this edition is a report, hopefully, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
of the coroner's inquest, but the print is so small, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
it's going to take us a while to go through this. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
They got a lot of words in these old things, didn't they? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
But having examined the whole page, Saul becomes disheartened. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
There is no mention of James Davies Foster. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
I would have liked... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
I would have hoped, really, that it was on this page, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
and it's not, so I'm going to move over to this page | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
but I'm a bit...mm. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
You never know, you never know. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
All is not lost yet. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
But suddenly, a new clue leaps out of the pages. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Ah! Now, hang on! | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
Right... | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
I'm going to read this cos it's relevant. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
"The tragedy of a Crewe Railway works employee | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
was investigated by Mr HAW Hastings, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
the deputy coroner at Ford Lane Police Station on Thursday week." | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
This is very encouraging because HAW Hastings was the deputy coroner | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
who carried out the inquest on James Davies Foster. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
So, if the inquest that we want | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
isn't covered in this edition of the paper, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
it might be in the following week's edition. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
But, either way, they are covering his work, that coroner's work. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
We're getting closer now. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
What have we got here? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
But after going through all the available editions | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
for James Davies Foster, Saul hits a dead end. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
I'm getting quite stressed now cos I haven't found it. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
There are two things that I'm stressed about. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
One is that it might not be here | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
and the other one, that it IS here and I've missed it. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Because, after all, despite being a professional, I'm only human. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Which means I've got to go through this again. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Saul can find no mention of James Davies Foster's inquest. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
His trip looks like it may have been wasted. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
But, as the record office is about to close, the archivist notices | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
an intriguing detail on James Davies Foster's death certificate. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Right, this death certificate, it actually says that he died | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
-at an institution, Bexton Road, Knutsford. -Right. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
-The institution could well be the workhouse. -OK. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-The Altrincham Bucklow workhouse, but we can check that. -OK. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
If you could, that would be great. Thank you. Brilliant! | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
The archivist recognises the address | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
of where James died as the local workhouse. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
Workhouses were an early form of the welfare state | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
and National Health Service. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
They provided shelter, food and medical treatment | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
for those who had fallen on hard times. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
As James had been struck down by meningitis, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
if he couldn't afford a private hospital, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
the workhouse would have been his only hope. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
If the archivist's hunch is correct, Saul may have a new and vital clue | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
in the hunt for the information on James Davies Foster. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
The workhouse is actually in Bexton Road in Knutsford. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
-Right, so he died at the workhouse? -Yes. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
-Are there any workhouse records? -Yes, there are, actually. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
We have, for the Altrincham and Bucklow Union, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
we have admissions and discharges, which is 1908 to 1940. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Would that include family members, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
like someone who booked him in, as it were? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
Yeah. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:23 | |
-So, I need to order some stuff, don't I? -Yes. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
There may, therefore, be workhouse records | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
which might possibly give information | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
about this gentleman's family, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
which is what I haven't been able to find here. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Let's hope tomorrow brings some better luck. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
But the archive is closing, so Saul will have a tense wait overnight | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
until he can see the records. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
That was a bit of a rollercoaster. Hmm... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
Right... | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
All we need is something like, "Brother - Frederick Foster", | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
and such and such an address. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
Then we can go to electoral rolls, censuses, the 1939 Register. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
Then we'll find him and his wife and then we'll find their marriage | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
and their children and it'll be wonderful! | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
But when he returns to the archive, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
will Saul find the crucial clue he's been looking for? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
So close and yet so far. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
When heir hunters open a new case, it can reveal hidden fortunes. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
It can be fascinating. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
You never really know what you're going to find. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
It can be an emotional rollercoaster for all involved. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
It is a jigsaw puzzle where you get the first piece | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
and I still get butterflies every time. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
And it can uncover life-changing sums for the heirs. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Some people genuinely need the money and I like to call those individuals | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
and let them know that the money's on their way. OK, thank you. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Fraser & Fraser case manager Ben Cornish | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
came across one such estate in March, 2016. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
The case of Jean Walley was a private referral. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Jean had passed away on 24th February, 2016. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Her friends had called the team | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
to see if they could track down relatives. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
When we were given the details that Jean had passed away, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
we knew that she was married to a Mason Harwood Walley. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Mason only died in 2015. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Jean had inherited her husband's estate, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
but she, herself, hadn't left a will. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
But before Ben could search for her family, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
he needed to check if there was any value in the estate, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
so he looked at Jean's last address. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
I checked the land registry documents | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
to make sure she owned it | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
and she was the sole proprietor of the property. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Average property prices in Jean's street were around £300,000. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
I just want to clarify with you if we're on the right track or not. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Ben needed to work fast now. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Although it was a private referral, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
her estate could have been made public at any time. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
If it's actually worth pursuing, you know you've got to speed up | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
and make sure you get there before anyone else. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Ben needed more information, so spoke with neighbours of Jean's. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
She lived in the Romford area for almost four decades | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
and was well-known by everyone on her street. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
I moved here about five years ago. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
The neighbours across the road there | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
used to take great care of Jean and her husband. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Alan also helped Jean out where he could. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
My interaction with Jean was much more limited | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
to cutting this hedge here. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
I used to do that about twice a year. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Jean was a well-loved member of the neighbourhood. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
It was very common to see her sitting there | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
in her chair in the window, and we used to wave to her. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
So, she was very well looked after in this little small community here. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:52 | |
Jean died only 11 months after her husband, Mason, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
and close friends were able to tell Ben and the team | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
they never had children. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Hang on, let me get stuff up. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
If Ben was to find heirs to Jean's estimated £300,000 estate, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
he needed to search back through her family history. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
We found out that she married in 1953 | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
and her name, at marriage, was Jean Biggar. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
When we looked for Jean's birth record, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
we discovered she was born in 1928 in Carlisle. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
On her birth record, it showed that her mother's maiden name was Nixon. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
With this information, Ben quickly discovered Jean was an only child, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
so moved on to locating her parents. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
We did a marriage search | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
and a John Robert Biggar married a Lilian Nixon in 1927 in Carlisle. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
And from that, we started our research. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Go on, then. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Ben needed help to look at their families, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
so recruited research manager Isha Adams to start looking | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
at Jean's mother's family in Carlisle. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
We knew that her mother was called Lilian Nixon | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
and she was born 24th December, 1904. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
So we had a look at the births and there was a birth in Carlisle, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
so we knew that was our Lilian. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Just start from the beginning. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Now the team could look for Lilian's siblings and parents | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
on the 1911 census records. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
I've got a confirmation. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
And they quickly had success. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
We found a 1911 census of a Lilian Nixon, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
born around 1905, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
but, luckily, it was in Carlisle, so we knew we were on the right track. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
The 1911 census showed | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Lilian's parents were James Nixon | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
and Mary Blackburn, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
a hatmaker and a housewife, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
both born in Carlisle. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
It also had the vital information Isha was after - | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Lilian's three siblings. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
We knew we had Lawrence, John and Matilda, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
who are uncles and aunt of the deceased. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
The next step, we were looking into the aunt and uncles | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
to see if we could find any heirs. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
The team had made quick progress. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Thanks, bye. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
But they were about to hit a major stumbling block. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Although Nixon may not seem like a very common name, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
unfortunately, when looking for the aunt and uncles of the deceased, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Nixon is a very common name in the north, especially in Carlisle. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
The team took a deep breath and started with Jean's youngest uncle. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
Keep that just in case. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
We're looking into a John Nixon. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
John is a very, very common name, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
so it was a bit tricky trying to find his family. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
The team combed through records in Carlisle | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
for John Nixon marrying and having children... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
..and eventually came up trumps. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
We went on to find a marriage for him to a Mary Winifred Wilkinson, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:02 | |
but we couldn't find any children off that marriage. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
It was a dead end for the team, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
so they hoped for better luck with Jean's youngest aunt, Matilda. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
Matilda married a William Pendergrast, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
which is a really good name to research. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
We then found one issue, John Pendergrast, born in 1932. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:23 | |
So, looked into that and, literally, couldn't find | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
anything for John past his birth. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
They just seemed to disappear. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
This was a huge problem for the team. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
John would be an heir and they couldn't just leave him untraced. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Ben picked up the research and looked further afield for John. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
We start looking through the cases where people would emigrate to, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
so you're looking at the Australias, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
you're looking at the Canadas, the States. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
These two are alive as well. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
They could be anywhere in the world | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
but the records aren't like they are in England and Wales. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
They're not a centralised record database. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
They change from province to province and state to state. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
But the team's hard work wasn't in vain. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
When we cast the net a bit wider, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
we discovered that John Pendergrast actually emigrated to Canada | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
and sadly passed away in 2012. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
But they still needed to check if John had any children, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
so Ben had to do some transatlantic detective work. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
We found the funeral home who dealt with his funeral | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
and managed to get hold of his daughter through marriage. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
This step-daughter of John's could be an heir, if John had adopted her. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Adoption is one of these special rules we have to know about. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
The same as having a blood transfusion, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
you become part of your adopted family. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Ben needed more information about John's step-daughter. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
He brought this individual up since she was one | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
but, sadly, she was never formally adopted, | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
which means she's not going to be entitled to benefit from his share. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
OK, cool, I will. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
With only one uncle left to trace, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
the team were running out of options that might lead to heirs. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Lawrence was really our last hope. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
If I didn't find anything from him, it would not look good. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
But the team's determination would pay off. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
We found a marriage. He had three children. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
The team had finally found potential heirs | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
on the maternal side and set about contacting them. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
But they still had the paternal side of the family to crack | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
and, as Ben looks deeper into Jean's family history, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
he will make a discovery about her estate | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
that will raise the stakes even higher. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
I knew that she had a lot of money, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
but I didn't think it was 1.3 million. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
Every year in Britain, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
thousands of people get a knock on the door from the heir hunters. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
I was quite shocked because I didn't realise | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
that there was anybody in the family that we could inherit from any more. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
But there are still thousands of unsolved cases | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
where heirs need to be found. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
on the government legal department's bona vacantia list | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
that are yet to be cracked. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Could you be the heirs they are looking for? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
The first case on the list is Walter Alderdice | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
who died in Weymouth, Dorset, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
on 5th May, 1994, aged 80. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
Walter was born in Poole, Dorset, on 9th March, 1914. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Despite Walter appearing to live on the south coast most of life, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
Alderdice is a name with Scottish origins. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Are you related to an Alderdice | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
and have connections with Scotland or the south coast? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Could you be the person the heir hunters are looking for? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
The next case is Mary Ahern, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
who died in 2002 in Hampstead, north London, aged 76. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
She was born on 16th December, 1925. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Could you be a relative of Mary's? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
Do you know anything that could help solve the case | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
of Walter Alderdice and Mary Ahern? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Perhaps you could be the next of kin. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
Celtic Research case manager Saul Marks is engaged | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
in a desperate hunt for heirs of Edith Percival, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
and he's struggling to find descendants | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
from three of her maternal uncles. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
It's vital for us, in our job, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
to make sure that we've covered every line of the family. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
We've either got to prove that there are no heirs | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
or prove that there ARE heirs. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
We can't just leave them untraced. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Edith's estate has sat unclaimed for 24 years, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
so doing research into such an ancient case is a huge gamble. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
I should actually file this in the correct order. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
One of the risks of picking up an old case | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
is that you're going to duplicate work | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
which, perhaps, other companies have done. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
So, I might put a lot of work in on a case | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
and just be rehashing work which another company did ten years ago. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
Right... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Saul has already spent the previous day | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
looking for one of Edith's uncles, James Davies Foster, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
in newspaper archives, without any result. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
But today, he has a new lead, back at the archives, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and it's his last resort in his hunt for Edith's mysterious uncles. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
I'm really hoping that the records are going to tell us a bit more | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
about James Foster and, hopefully, lead us directly | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
to Edith Percival's next of kin. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Saul has been forced to take such an unconventional route | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
due to the extreme mystery surrounding Edith Percival's family. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
She was an intensely private person, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
as her neighbour Jeff Tenner remembers. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
What we did know was she'd spend time in the garden | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
but always kept herself to herself. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Jeff lived next door to her for over a decade in the 1980s, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
but never gleaned any information about her family life. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
I think, conversation-wise, we would never have had more than, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
in all those years, half a dozen conversations. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Edith passed away in 1991, without close family or a will, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
and her money has sat | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
with the government legal department ever since. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
While Saul is struggling to locate Edith's maternal uncles, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
he's already had just as much trouble | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
on Edith's father's side of the family. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Right, this is the paternal side. This is the Percival side. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
Edith May Percival's father was Thomas Percival. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
Edith's mother's family and her father's family | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
were both farming families from the same district, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
so they're very much a localised family | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
from that part of north-east Cheshire. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
Marriage records showed Edith's father, Thomas Percival, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
married Hannah Foster in 1918... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Come on! This way! | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
..and was a dairy farmer. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
Farming was a very important activity | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
in Cheshire and, particularly, dairy farming, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
with its moist and rather wet summers, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
is a thriving, expanding industry | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
as a result of the growing demand for milk. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
But dairy farming 100 years ago was a tough, all-consuming job. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
Go on, budge up. Let's have you. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Milking is easier today than it used to be years ago. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
It would all have been in churns | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
and it would have had to be lifted manually onto the lorries, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
so a lot of hard work, lifting heavy churns of milk. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Stop fidgeting. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
Still a seven days a week job, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
half six in the morning till half six at night. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
It's not just something you do in your spare time. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Thomas Percival was also a potato farmer, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
as this photo of his actual farm in 1908 shows. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
To cope with the endless labour, Thomas's siblings, Lucy and John, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
would also have worked on the farm, leaving little time for love. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
You've got a hierarchical class structure, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
which means that it would be frowned upon | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
to marry outside your position in life. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
This meant Saul's hopes of finding heirs | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
from Lucy and John would be narrowed. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Because there were limited opportunities | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
to find someone to marry, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
you'd tend to find a disproportionate number of them | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
might finish up as bachelors, in the case of men, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
or spinsters, in the case of women. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
Saul's worst fears would be realised when he looked into Lucy and John, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
the siblings of Edith's father, Thomas Percival. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
His sister lived to quite an old age but was a spinster, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
so there were no heirs from her line. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
And his brother, Thomas and Lucy's brother, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
was sadly killed in World War I, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
and he hadn't married or had any children, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
so his line dies off as well. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
So, therefore, we were able to establish, definitively, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
that there are no heirs on the paternal side of the family. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
It was a devastating blow. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
It meant Saul's chance of solving the case were slashed in half. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
Only Edith's mother's side could now have heirs. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
You work one side of the family through completely, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
and you totally eliminate the possibility | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
of there being any heirs. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
The question is, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
are you going to find any on the side you haven't yet traced? | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
It means Saul's work in the archives on Edith's maternal uncle, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
James Davies Foster, is even more important. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
James died in the local workhouse, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
so now Saul needs to search the workhouse archives | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
for any mention of James and his family | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
to give him new clues to their descendants. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Hopefully, he's going to turn up in one of these. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
This is the last resort. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
A-ha! Inquest. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
"Mr CAW Hastings..." I thought it was HAW Hastings. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
"..deputy coroner, held an inquest on James Foster on July 25th. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
"A verdict of natural causes was returned." | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
What we have here is, indeed, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
a record of James Foster's death in the workhouse | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
that's a bit more information than just the death register. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
All it gives, though, is the date of the inquest and the verdict. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
It doesn't mention James's brothers or anyone else in his family. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
It's a hammer blow to Saul's hopes of finding heirs from James. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
It's pretty frustrating to come here | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
and look through all these different sets of records | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
and get so close to finding information about James. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
So, yeah... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
So close and yet so far. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Saul has wasted hours of research | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
and, after a whole day in the archives, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
he's back to square one. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
I'm going to have to go back to the office | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
and look again at some different sources and see if we can try | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
and find these brothers some other way. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
While this stage of research draws a blank... | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
..all is not lost, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
as Saul has made progress | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
with another part of Edith's maternal family. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
Sometimes, you work a case for so long, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
it becomes this personal challenge to try and solve this niggling case. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:04 | |
You just kind of keep going. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
And Saul's persistence would pay off when he checked different records | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
for Edith's elusive three uncles. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
I ran a baptism search in the Cheshire baptism records | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
for members of this family | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
in the hope that I would find entries for James and Frederick. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
What I actually found, much to my amazement, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
was the baptism record of another brother. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
This is George Foster, who was another brother of Hannah's, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
who hadn't appeared on any of the census returns | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
that I'd looked at up to that point. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
After so many dead ends, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Saul finally had some information he could run with. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
Once I'd established that George Foster | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
was definitely another brother of Hannah Scarisbrook Foster, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
I was then able to go back to basic sources, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
like the censuses and birth, marriage and death indexes, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
and trace his family down. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Saul rapidly discovered George married and had a child, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
Hannah Foster, Edith's cousin. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
Hannah, herself, married, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
so Saul was tantalisingly close to finding a living heir | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
on this case which had foiled all the other companies | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
for over 24 years. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
But would Hannah have children? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Hannah had one daughter, named Margaret Swindells. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
Margaret was the only heir Saul had found. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
It was a monumental breakthrough on the case, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
but fate would deal Saul a cruel blow. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
Margaret died without children in 2003, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
though he wasn't giving up hope. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
If Margaret left a will, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:46 | |
then anything that Margaret would have inherited from Edith | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
would pass to the residuary beneficiaries of Margaret's will. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
It was a tense wait for Saul to discover | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
if Margaret died with a will when he searched the probate records. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Margaret left a will and she left the residue of her estate | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
to a friend of hers named Christine and a couple of charities. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
And Christine and those charities, finally, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
were the first heirs I'd found to Edith's estate. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
What you doing? There's a good boy. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Christine was one of Margaret's closest friends | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
and had inherited money from her when she passed away in 2003. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
Shall I get your ball? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
So, when Saul called her to say she may inherit from Margaret again | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
over ten years later, she was sceptical. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
I didn't believe it. I was suspicious of it, initially. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:50 | |
Christine had met Margaret in the 1960s, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
when she'd moved to Cheshire as a young mum. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I went to have my son and came home with him | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
and she came running out and said, "Can I have a peep, please?" | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
And...and that was it, after that. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:10 | |
They were the kids she never had. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
Christine looked after Margaret until she died | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
and inherited a third of Margaret's estate. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
The first lot that I inherited, I've not spent very much of it | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
and I've not spent it on myself. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
So, when Saul persuaded Christine he was legitimate, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
the idea of more money coming from Margaret's estate was a shock. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
I didn't know how much the money was and I was too much of a lady to ask. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:42 | |
And Saul had some good news on the size of Edith's estate. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
During the time we'd been working this case, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
we'd been under the impression it was worth approximately £60,000, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
which is a fairly sizeable estate. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
We've now heard from the Treasury that they believe, in fact, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
it's worth double that. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
It's worth, supposedly, about £120,000. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
Fido. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:05 | |
So, Christine will treasure | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
her inheritance from Margaret and Edith | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
and she won't be wasting it. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
It's a nice warm feeling because whatever's left when I go | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
will go to my two children, keep it in the family. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
In London, case manager Ben Cornish, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
at heir-hunting firm Fraser & Fraser, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
was working the case of Jean Walley, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
which had already taken some dramatic twists and turns | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
to find heirs from her mother's family. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
You can never look at a case and say whether it's an easy case or not. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
-We've got that, haven't we? -Yeah. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
The heir hunters knew Jean owned her own property, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
so the case was worth an estimated £300,000. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
But they were about to discover the true value, which was much higher. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
So, if Ben and the team found heirs on her father's side, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
these people's lives would be transformed forever. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
If we can trace them as quickly as possible. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Brilliant, OK. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
Friends of Jean had given Ben and the team | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
a head start into Jean's family history. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
We were informed that she was married to a Mason Harwood Walley. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
Both her and her husband were originally from up north. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Although they were from Carlisle, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
by the 1960s, Jean and Mason had moved south | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
and spent their retirement living in Romford, Essex. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
So, she was a very chirpy, very dignified lady. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
She became a bit sad when her husband died, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
which was about a year to a year and a half before her, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
but she didn't give up. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
Jean had been married to her husband, Mason, since 1953, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
when he was a Petty Officer in the Royal Naval Air Service. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
But when he left the navy, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
he went to work at the Ford motor factory in Dagenham. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
The factory is still in production today but, back in the 1960s, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
it would have been a very different place. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
It would have been a site | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
that produced vehicles that were sold across the UK. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
It would have been far more labour-intensive, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
more semi-skilled work, and the environment itself | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
would have been much darker, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
probably a bit dirtier than you see today as well. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
Mason was also likely to have witnessed an amazing period | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
in the company and the UK's history. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Although the vast majority of employees at Ford were men, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
167 women had a vital role, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
sewing the upholstered seats for every car the factory made. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
That was the first car I worked on when I joined Ford. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
-These are beautifully made. -It is lovely. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
It brings back memories of what we done. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
During the 1960s, Gwen Davis and Eileen Pullen were sewing machinists | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
who worked alongside Mason Walley in the Dagenham factory. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
It was hard work at first but you got into it. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
We used to have to make 19 seats an hour | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
and you had to put your number on the seat | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
because, in case there were faults, then a seat would come back to you. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
You couldn't get away with doing bad work. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
But, despite doing a technically demanding job, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
the women were not rewarded for their expertise. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
Many of them had hailed from skilled jobs | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
in the rag trade in the East End of London. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
They knew that they were skilled. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
In this factory, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
they were paid at the very bottom of the pay hierarchy. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
Resentment grew when the female sewing machinists saw | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
that less skilled male colleagues got paid the same as them. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
The janitors, who were graded the same as us, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
sweeping up, they couldn't do the work WE were doing. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
The could never come off what they would do | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
and go onto another job because they didn't know how to do it. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
All they knew was sweeping. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
So, in 1968, the women, led by Gwen and Eileen, decided | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
the only way Ford would listen to them was if they took direct action. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
The moment we lay down our tools and said, "No more"... | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
-They didn't have no more seats. -Yeah, they lost, what was it, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
a week and a half? Then they ran out of seats. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
So, it showed our job was important. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
-You can't run a car without a seat, can you? -No, no. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
Production at one of Europe's biggest car plants ground to a halt. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
One of the very high representatives said | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
we either go back to work or he'd lay everybody off. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
But the women's strike couldn't be crushed, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
as it had caught the public's eye. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
They want to be understood as the skilled people that they were | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
and they wanted to be rewarded accordingly. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
Now, that got reinterpreted as an equal pay strike. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
The women marched on Whitehall to protest for equal pay | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
and to try to negotiate an end to their strike. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
The women public, I think, looked at these women | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
-as -I -did as a young woman, with a sort of quiet thrill. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
This was very exciting. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
After three weeks of strikes, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
protests and government intervention, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
the women won a pay rise, but not equal pay. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
Then we went back. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
I think it was a rise of about 7p or 9p on the hour, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
not nearly as much as we wanted. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
They never got their regrading. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
Took another, I think, 16 years. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
But Gwen, Eileen's and the other women's actions | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
altered Britain forever. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
It put the idea of equality on the agenda, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
so these women were an inspiration for the women's liberation movement. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
In 1970, the Equal Pay Act was introduced, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
prohibiting companies from giving women | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
less favourable treatment than men. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
I, personally, find it really inspiring | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
that, as a result of something that happened here, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
it led to a much wider change in society. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
The women's actions were so important, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
they've been immortalised in the movie and musical Made In Dagenham. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
They did something amazing, incredibly brave. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Mason Walley would have worked alongside the women in this new era | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
until he retired in the 1990s, as a senior manager at Dagenham. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
But when Mason died in 2015, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
his estate passed to his wife, Jean, who hadn't left a will. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
So, heir hunter Ben was trying to ensure her estate | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
-went to the rightful heirs. -All right then. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
With Jean's house worth at least £300,000, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Ben and the team were working fast, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
in case other companies got wind of it. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
When there's a property on a case, the stakes are high | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
because you know there's a value to the estate | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
and you know that you're going to get competition. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
Cheers. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Having already found three heirs on Jean's mother's side, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
he immediately got to work on her paternal family tree. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
On her birth record, it showed her surname was Biggar. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
This was great news for Ben. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Biggar was a fantastic name for him and the team to research | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
and helped them work quickly. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:33 | |
They found Jean's father, John Biggar, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
had been born in 1905 in Carlisle. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
Ben quickly traced John's parents, Jean's paternal grandparents. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
This is the family tree of Jean Walley. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
We've got Robert Biggar and Mary Elizabeth Carr. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
Ben found Robert and Mary with Jean's father, John, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
on the 1911 census. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
He discovered Jean's paternal grandparents | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
only had two more children. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
One of whom was a Mary Elizabeth Biggar, born in 1907 in Carlisle. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
She married a Robert C Douglas in 1930. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Ben could quickly trace their children, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
one of whom was Robert, who was still living in Carlisle | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
and who received a letter from Ben and the team. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Well, I seen this envelope come through the door. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
What's this? Who's wanting money off of us? | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
I'm sick of getting stuff through the door. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
And then I opened it again | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
and it was saying, "Estate of Jean Walley." | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
I says, "I don't know them!" | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
I says, "I better phone them and tell them | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
"they've sent it to the wrong address." | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
So, I got on the phone and he says, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
"Oh, yes, can you remember her husband being a petty officer?" | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
I says, "I know who it is! It's my cousin Jean." | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
I says, "I was trying to get in touch with her for ages | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
"and I didn't know where they'd all gone, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
"after their mother and father passed away, you know." | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
Robert has been left with a feeling of regret | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
for not being able to find Jean before it was too late, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
but he still has fantastic memories of Jean. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
She had a good head on her shoulders. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
She was always happy looking and always helping people, just like me. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
I just wanted to check with you two things. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
Back in the office, Ben and the team have almost completed | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
their hunt for Jean's heirs. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
The current status is that we've now completed our research. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
We've established who the rightful beneficiaries will be, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
so we need to market and sell the deceased's property | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
and collect in any other assets. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Ben found a total of eight heirs to share Jean's estate. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
But when he had done the sums for what the total value would be, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
it came as a surprise. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
The final value of Jean Walley's estate | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
was approximately 1.3 million. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
It was made up of the house price of £300,000, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
plus stocks and shares and other savings. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
I knew that she had a lot of money, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:07 | |
but I didn't think it was 1.3 million. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
As there's only eight beneficiaries, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
it's going to be a life-changing amount of money. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
It's shocking news for Ben, but one he will enjoy breaking to the heirs. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:21 | |
It's always nice to see, sometimes, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
when you get these cases where there are only a few beneficiaries | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
and they are in genuine need of the funds, it's a really nice feeling | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
for us to be able to give them something back from their family. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
Not only will Robert inherit a large portion of her estate, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
it's been pleasant for him to relive memories | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
of Jean and their shared childhood. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Always happy-go-lucky and she used to always be going to dances | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
and always, like, jolly. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
She was always jolly when she came, you know. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
She was always laughing and joking. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 |