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Today, the race is on to find heirs to a six-figure fortune. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
So we literally need to find every single one? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
A family's history reveals a tragic international love story. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
They didn't have very much in common at all, apart from the child. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Different races, different classes. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
Which has the power to surprise a new generation. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
We had so many secrets in our families, and this was obviously, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
I would imagine, one of the secrets. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Across the country, the hunt is on. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
We're going to have a look into this. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
Hi there, I was just wondering whether you were free to do a visit for me this morning? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
It's 2pm, and in London, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
heir hunters Finders International have a fresh estate to work. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
So, I've just had a new case in. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
The information we've got is that it's the estate of | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
Eveline Ward Southall. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
The team must find out as much as possible about Eveline | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
and her estate to establish if it's worth taking on. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
We know that she's left approximately £100,000. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
And the team always have to be aware of any competition | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
in the race to find heirs. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
It's been referred to us by a firm of solicitors. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
As Eveline's estate has been handed to them directly rather than being | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
advertised publicly, the team could be ahead of the game. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
We would hope that they're not competitive, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
but one of our competitors might get it from another source and so... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
..as we progress, we might find that we've got some competition. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
So case manager Suzanne gets to work | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
finding out as much as she can about Eveline. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
We know that she was born on the 19th of October 1920, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
and she passed away on the 15th of December 2015. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
-Do you want any biscuits? -Yes, please. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Eveline Southall lived the last years of her life | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
in a Birmingham care home. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Eveline was here for about two years. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
She used to be very independent when she was here,... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
-..trying to do everything for herself... -And her hair, wasn't it? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
Very much so, yeah. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
She was very proud of her hair and liked to do her own hair. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
And she was quite private, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
she didn't really speak to us a lot about her family. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Or her past life. She only mentioned her husband a few times. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Eveline's husband, Sidney, had passed away in 2007. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
But she said she missed her husband, Sidney, very much. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
Take some biscuits, too. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
But Eveline still enjoyed her time at the care home. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
She was a very bubbly lady, always smiling. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
She was just a generally nice person to talk to, wasn't she? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
I'll leave it on the side there for you. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
When Eveline passed away, it was discovered she'd left no will, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
and didn't have any known close family. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
So the hunt was on to find her heirs. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
Could you look for this lady? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
In the office, Suzanne has established | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
that Eveline and her husband never had children, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
and she was an only child. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
So this means we now have to look into | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
both the maternal and paternal side, to see if we can find some heirs. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
Maybe get in contact with some cousins? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Suzanne needs help to work both sides of the family as quickly as | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
possible, and recruits researcher Ellie to get the hunt underway. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
So, just got the certificates in, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
which would help us out with this case, to get it going. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Suzanne knows Eveline's parents were Arthur Shaw and Marion Manning, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:53 | |
who married in Birmingham in 1919. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
We've got a bit more information now, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
-we can look at the census and start doing some research. -OK. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
The team find Arthur Shaw's parents, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Eveline's paternal grandparents, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
George and Mary Shaw, on the 1911 census. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Living in Birmingham with Arthur and his siblings. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
But there's a surprising twist when they study the census closer. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Now, it says that they ended up having 15 children in total. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
It's a huge family. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Arthur Shaw had 14 brothers and sisters, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Eveline's paternal aunts and uncles. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
So Suzanne will have her work cut out tracing every one of them. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Now, that's a huge, huge number, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
so in terms of work, you think, you know, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
it's going to be a really, really big case. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Suzanne will need all the help she can get | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
it if she is to find all the heirs, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
and fellow case manager Ryan sees if he can lend a hand. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
What are you up to with this one? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:52 | |
So, we've looked back at all the censuses. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
So there's quite a few, there's 11 on this one, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
so we sort of don't really know who's alive. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
After early census records showed Eveline's father, Arthur, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
having 14 siblings, Suzanne's now discovered that on the 1911 census, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
the majority of them have vanished. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
It's all happening in Birmingham, so basically you guys | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
-are looking into these lines? -Yeah, at the moment. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
With such a huge family and so many relatives missing, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
the team are up against a difficult heir hunt, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
and need to use every resource at their disposal. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
OK, once we're into the top lines, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
so in this case, the dad's brothers and sisters, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
it should be relatively easy to figure out with the census. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
The 1911 census is good | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
because it tells us how many children are in the family | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
and how many have passed away. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
The 1911 census says seven out of Arthur's 14 siblings have died. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
But, crucially, the census doesn't tell the team | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
which seven out of the 14 have passed away. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
It's really, really tricky. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
How are we going to figure out exactly who's who? | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
-I thought it would be quite an easy one. -Hmm... | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
They'll now have to try and cross reference every available record | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
to see if they can work out which siblings have survived, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
moved to a different household, or passed away. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
There could be more living somewhere else. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
In 1901. That's going to be the thing. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
Do we ever have them all together? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
That says 1891. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-Is this the most complete one? -Yeah. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
It's a numbers game, though, isn't it? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Everybody that's passed away is going to be as important as... | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
To figure it out. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
Suzanne gets to work. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
So, it is quite complicated, first of all, to get your head around it. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
With all these names on each census. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Obviously, you have to sit down and go through and number them | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
to work out exactly what lines we need to work. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Suzanne does a detailed crosscheck of records. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
So, we literally need to find every single one. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
What I'm going to have to do for you is find possible deaths, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
and then we'll have to order the deaths and just see who the informant is, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
to find out if the parents are on there. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Ryan and Suzanne discover five of Arthur's siblings died as children, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
and two died as adults without having children. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
But it still leaves seven paternal aunts and uncles to trace - | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
a mammoth task. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
So Suzanne gets the whole team involved | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
to track them and their families down. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-So, are you able to take a look for me at George? -OK. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
Ryan has a plan of attack. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
So, Camilla, Suzanne and Holly, they're looking into the lines of the family | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
where we know the children survived to a time where they may or may not | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
have had kids, so they're going to be the easiest lines to work with. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
It appears most of the family stay in one area, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
which can help the team track the family down quicker. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-Well, as long as they all stay local, that's going to help. -Yeah. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
So what registration district is it? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Do you know? Is it all Birmingham M, Birmingham S? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-Or just Birmingham? -He was born in Birmingham. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
OK. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
-They married in Birmingham. She was born in Birmingham. -OK. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
But as they look at each sibling of Eveline's father, Arthur Shaw, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
they realise it's more difficult than they anticipated. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
You just can't do a blanket birth search for Shaws. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
There's just so many. The only problem is now, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
-is just the number of Shaws there is, it's holding us back. -Yeah. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
The fact all the Shaws stayed in Birmingham turns out to be | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
a double-edged sword. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
So, we're just having a look at the Shaw surname. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
It's a lot more prevalent than I thought, personally, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
so it's going to be tough, I think. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Suzanne's got her work cut out with the Shaw family. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
It's turned out to be a lot harder than expected. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
I didn't realise that Shaw was such a common name in Birmingham. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
It's really a case of ordering certificates, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
waiting for them to come in, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
and then we can pick it back up. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
To have to wait for those certificates, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
we may have to wait 24 hours. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
That can be incredibly frustrating. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Once you're involved in the research, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
you really just got want to keep going and finalise it. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
You want to reach the end result, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
contact any heirs that might be there. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
With the paternal family looking like a major headache, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Suzanne's only hope of finding heirs today | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
rests with the maternal Manning side of the family. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
We're now just starting to look into the maternal side of the tree. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
The paternal side has turned out to be | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
a lot more trickier than we first thought. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Eveline's mother was Ada Marion Manning, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
and Suzanne has traced some of her siblings - | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
aunts and uncles of Eveline. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
And we've managed to find them on the 1901 Census. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Um, however, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
it looks like all the children are born across the country, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
so there's some in Wales, some in Staffordshire, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
-and... -Some in Derby. -Derbyshire. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
So, again, I think it's going to be a lot trickier than | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
when we first sort of looked at the case initially. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
The team have invested an entire day trying to find heirs | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
to Eveline Southall's estate | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
and they've struggle to make any meaningful progress. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
But when they finally do contact a family member, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
will it turn out their hard work has been for nothing? | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
-She's found wills? -Yeah, I don't understand what she was saying. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
In the course of their investigations, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
heir hunters can come across cases which are completely unique. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
Every day, it's different, and that's one of the things | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
which I think everyone involved in this industry love. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Their detective work into families' histories can uncover stories | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
which span decades and cross continents. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Any one estate could take you anywhere in the world, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
and it often does. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
Case manager Gareth Langford came across one such estate - | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
that of Edwin Howard from the government's Bona Vacantia list. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
So the original information that we had | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
from the government legal department was pretty sparse. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
We had date of death, date of birth and a place of birth, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
being Fulham on this occasion. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
Edwin died in June 2012 in west London, aged 97, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:28 | |
but sadly, no photos of him seem to survive. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
With competition very likely on this case, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Gareth and the team quickly got to work | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
to see if Edwin had close relatives he'd lost touch with. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
So we needed to see if the deceased was married, if he had any children. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
It turned out, looking at the research, that we don't think | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
the deceased was married and certainly didn't have any children. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
The next step was to look for wider family, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
but first the team needed to make sure there would be some value | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
in the case and checked to see if Edwin had owned any property. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
Records show that throughout the '80s and '90s, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Edwin lived at Sullivan Court in Fulham, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
a major housing estate built shortly after the war. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
There's plenty over there where the houses are, look. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
Edward has lived there since the 1970s, and although he doesn't | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
remember Edwin, he's seen huge change in the area. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
Fortunately, we've got a flat on the sixth floor, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
which means that I look over all the other flats on the estate. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Everybody thought they were very lucky to come in Sullivan Court. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
In the 1980s, residents like Edwin and Edward were given the chance | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
to purchase their properties | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
under Margaret Thatcher's Right to Buy scheme. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Edward bought his and it's proved a wise investment. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
In 1990, it was valued at £71,000. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
But now it's about £200,000, £300,000. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
Some of them are still going now | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
and they're selling for £500,000, by the way. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
But the key question for the heir hunters was whether | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Edward's neighbour Edwin had made an equally shrewd investment. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
I just wanted to check with you two things. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
They weren't sure, but they decided to take a punt anyway. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
But it's enough for the competition | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
to be looking at it and there's always that thought | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
in the back of your mind when you're looking at any case, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
is there going to be competition? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
Gareth's next step was to find Edwin's parents and see if he had | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
any brothers or sisters. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
With an estate that could be worth several hundred thousand pounds, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
the team couldn't hang around. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
But when they looked for a key piece of information, they were stumped. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
So the first thing we need to do on any case that we look at | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
is find the birth certificate of the deceased. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
It's the vital information that we need. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
And in this particular case, that was our stumbling point. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
We literally could not find the birth certificate of Edwin Howard. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
It was a frustrating setback. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Without that, it's extremely difficult to even start the case. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Gareth needed more help, so called in experienced researcher Alan, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
who looked at new ways of discovering the record of Edwin's birth. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
I backtracked the address that the deceased had been living at | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and those in the area through various sources that we have. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
If you're looking at an estate with no birth certificate, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
we have to trawl through the other records that are available for us. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
Alan traced back through the addresses they had for Edwin | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
until they found him in 1939 living at Rumbold Road in Fulham | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
when he was 24 years old. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
So I came across a number of addresses. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
On one of the addresses where there was an Edwin Howard living, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
there was another lady that showed, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:50 | |
so I made the assumption it was his wife. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
At Rumbold Road in 1939, Edwin was living with a Grace Howard. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
All right, then. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
It was the first potential family member they had found for Edwin, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
and could be a vital way of solving the mystery of Edwin's wider kin. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
But Alan was in for a surprise | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
when he looked further into Grace's own history. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
And I found a death for her and I applied for a copy of that death | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
and when it came back, it actually turned out to be his mother | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
that he was living with. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
This was even better news for Alan. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Having Edwin's mother's name of Grace Howard led him closer to | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
finding both parents, the key to starting the heir hunt properly. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
But as Alan dug deeper into the records for Grace and Edwin Howard, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
he was in for another shock. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
I was considering going back on the previous addresses for the deceased | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
and the house that they were living at, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
on one year, they showed up with a completely different surname. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
The name of Qutab. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
This case was getting strange. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Between 1938 and 1939, Edwin and his mother, Grace, decided to change | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
their name from Qutab to Howard. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
But why Edwin and Grace changed their surname remained a mystery. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
So as a result of that, I then looked for the birth of the deceased | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
under this name of Qutab, and I found it. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
The team was delighted. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
The birth certificate matched with the details they already had | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
for Edwin Howard. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
So this is the crucial document for our case. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
The most important part of this, really, is the date of birth. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
The date of birth shown on this record is the 7th of May 1915, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
and that's the same date that's given on the death certificate. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
The birth certificate also had more details on Edwin's birth family, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
most importantly, his father's name. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
His father is Aziz Qutab, and then the mother, Alice Grace Qutab. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
The father is stated as a law student and he registered the birth. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
Knowing Edwin's mother and father's names meant they could confirm | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
he was an only child. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
There would be no brothers and sisters to inherit Edwin's estate. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
OK, thank you. Bye. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
So the hunt was now on to find his aunts and uncles on both sides of | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
the family. With this flood of new information on Edwin's parents, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Alan got stuck into looking at his father. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
I then found him coming into England in about 1909, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
and it also said he was from the Punjab, which is in India. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Edwin's father Aziz's journey to Britain wasn't that unusual, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
as at the time, India was still the jewel in the crown | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
of Britain's empire. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Britain was the ruling power, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
and had been, through the East India Company, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
for about 300 years. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Aziz had a ready-made Indian expat community in London. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
He certainly wouldn't have been a rarity, particularly in London. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
There were a fair number of Indians coming over, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
certainly before World War I, to study law. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Aziz would have come from a very distinct part of Indian society. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
He would be from a wealthy background, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
and I should imagine a westernised background, too. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
Aziz himself would've been welcomed by English high society. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
Indians at that time were generally fairly well accepted, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
and there are several reasons for this. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Obviously if you've come here to study law, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
you're going to come from a wealthy family, and it's a question of class | 0:18:33 | 0:18:39 | |
rather than race. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
So if you're upper-class, as Aziz obviously was, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
then he's going to be accepted. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
Race really played no part in it. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
And his liaison with Edwin's mother Grace, a working-class English girl, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
wouldn't have been out of the ordinary. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Many Englishmen of this period, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
particularly working-class Englishman, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
were the kind of people Grace probably imagined she would marry. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
By comparison, a tall, young upper-class Indian is going to be | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
very, very attractive indeed. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
But if we assume that Grace was a pretty young woman | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
and Qutab Aziz was a handsome young man, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
I think you can see how it happened. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
But it's unlikely Aziz considered the relationship with Grace | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
would be one which would last. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
It wouldn't have been a mix of social equals. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Very, very opposite to that. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
It certainly wouldn't have been frowned upon by upper-class society. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
They would've just winked because, let's face it, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
English upper-class society were doing | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
exactly the same kind of thing all the time. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
I should imagine that Grace's father wasn't at all pleased, actually. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
So, frowns from Grace's family and winks from Qutab Aziz's friends. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:58 | |
Hello? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
But Aziz's relationship with Grace appeared to have been | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
more than just a brief liaison. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
The way the birth was registered, it implied that the parents | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
were married, although I couldn't find one. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
As both Grace and Edwin had the second name Qutab, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
it seemed Aziz may have married Grace, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
but they needed a marriage certificate. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
The marriage record is crucial for any estate that we look into. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
The reason being is it has so much information about the family on, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
particularly the deceased parents. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
So if we're looking at a marriage certificate, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
we've got the full names, the ages, and their parents' names, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
and that's crucial for finding the family. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
They searched high and low, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
but there was no record in the UK of any marriage between Grace and Aziz. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
Whether or not she's filled it in herself | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
and just stated that she was married, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
but I thought it was a bit strange. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Gareth's started to lose hope. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
One of the potential reasons that we can't find a marriage is | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
obviously maybe they never actually did get married. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
But as the team looked deeper into the family, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
shock revelations will lead the heir hunters further than ever before | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
in the hunt for Edwin's heirs. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
He does then show up in the 1950s in Africa. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
I tied it down for Nairobi, which is Kenya. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
Were they going to be able to track down heirs to Edwin's estate? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Every year in Britain, thousands of people get | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
a surprise knock on the door from the heir hunters. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Inheriting it, well, it's surreal. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
I don't expect anybody to sort of leave me anything. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
But there are over 11,000 unsolved cases worth at least £5.5 million | 0:21:33 | 0:21:39 | |
where heirs need to be found. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Today, we've got details | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
of two estates on the government legal department's | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
bona vacantia list that are yet to be cracked. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Could you be the heirs they are looking for? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
The first case on the list is Alison Myrtle Dare, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
who died in Shepway, Kent, on the 27th of March 1988 at the age of 88. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:03 | |
Alison had been married to Alfred Julius Dare, and her maiden name | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
was Wheeler. Do you remember Alison and Alfred Dare in Kent? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
Perhaps you're part of Alison's birth family of Wheeler. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
The next case is William Richard Meacock, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
who died on the 18th of September 1994 in Luton, Bedfordshire. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
His date of birth, or age at death, aren't known. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Do you know where or when William was born, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
or where his family was from? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
Do you know anything that could help solve the cases of Alison Dare | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
and William Meacock? Perhaps you could be the next of kin. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
If so, you might have thousands of pounds coming your way. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
In London, heir hunters Fraser and Fraser were tussling with | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
the complicated riddle of Edwin Howard's family. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
He'd been born in 1915 to an English mother, Grace, and an Indian father, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
Aziz, in Fulham, west London, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
but the heir hunters couldn't find a marriage record for Aziz and Grace. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
If we believe an individual was married, but we can't find | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
an official record, there can be lots of reasons. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
First and foremost, that the marriage has taken place somewhere | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
where we're not looking or we're not aware of. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Alternatively, there's potential that the marriage | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
never actually took place. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
It was turning out to be a very intriguing case. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Some of the only information they had was that Edwin lived in a flat | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
in the Sullivan Court estate in Fulham from the 1980s until 2008. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
You can see Charing Cross Hospital in the mist. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
He would've lived near to current resident Edward. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
It's too misty today to see much. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Edwin would've witnessed great social change while living | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
in the flats, and being half Indian, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
he may have felt at home in the cosmopolitan environment. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Me, I've got people from Congo up above. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
We've got people from Serbia below. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
I've got a Polish chap next door. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
At the other end we've got French people, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
and below them we've got Portuguese. It's cosmopolitan! | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
That's just in this little bit. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
I just want to clarify with you if we're on the right track or not. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
But beyond knowing he lived in Fulham for over 40 years, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
the heir hunters had scant information about Edwin's life. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
Hang on, let me get this stuff up. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
The team had focused on his Indian father, Aziz Qutab, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
and they now believed Aziz hadn't married Edwin's mother, Grace, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
and had abandoned both of them at some point. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
They certainly weren't living together, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
according to the electoral rolls. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
But if the team could track down Aziz through other methods, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
they might stand a chance of finding paternal heirs to Edwin's estate. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
Researcher, Alan, kept up the hunt for Aziz. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
The deceased's father, Aziz, he actually didn't show up after 1915. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
Basically, he just drops straight off the radar, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
and he doesn't show again on the 1939 register. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
That might have been because he wasn't in England. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
But Alan had one final throw of the dice, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
and widened his search to cover an entirely new continent. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
He does then show up in the 1950s, in Africa. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
I tied it down to Nairobi, which is Kenya, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
which does have a very large Indian population. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
Alan had a good reason to suspect that, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
as an Indian lawyer trying to work in London, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Aziz may have left the UK and gone to Africa. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
I would have suspected that, given the obstacles that would have | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
stood in his way, being an Indian guy | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
trying to work in a very British establishment environment, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
he probably wasn't going to go very far, so, ultimately, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
he went off and got an opportunity to work in the colonies. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
He went to East Africa, I believe, Kenya. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
It would have been rare for Aziz to stay in England and practise law. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
There really weren't any Indian barristers practising in England. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
Or perhaps only a handful. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
We don't know what might have taken him to Africa. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
It might have been the promise of an even better job. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
It's a fairly unusual pattern, but it's not unprecedented. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
He would have owed a debt, both financial and moral, to his parents, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
who had invested so much in him. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
With Aziz under pressure to earn money, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
and giving the different social circles Aziz and Grace came from, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
it seemed their relationship was doomed. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
There's no reason why it should have lasted. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
It seems to mean they didn't have very much in common at all, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
apart from the child. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Different races, different classes. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
I can't see it lasting at all. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
In fact, I can't think of any examples | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
where this kind of relationship did last. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Despite never marrying Aziz, Grace had clung to his name of Qutab | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
for over 20 years after Edwin's birth in 1915. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
It's interesting. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Why did she take his surname? | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Perhaps she wanted to give the child, Edwin, some status. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
It gives the boy a father. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
But, as the heir hunters had already discovered, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Grace and Edwin did change their surname, from Qutab to Howard. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
Think they might have changed their name in 1939, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
because it was a time of great uncertainty. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Foreigners were suspect and you don't really want to go around | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
with a foreign name when Britain itself is under threat. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
Edwin may have changed his name to Howard, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
but the search for his father, Aziz Qutab, was still ongoing. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
The problem we have here is simply a lack of records. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
There are no records that we can research, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
there are no records that we can look into, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
certainly in his case. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
So, what have we got? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
So, we are looking at the maternal side. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
While research into Aziz's family was a work in progress, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
on the maternal side, the team felt far more confident. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
especially when they studied the information | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
on Edwin's birth certificate. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
From the birth of the deceased, we know the mother's name - Grace Fell. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
What we needed to do next, really, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
is link the Fell family with our deceased. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
They quickly traced Edwin's mother's parents. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
In this case, her parents were William and Rebecca Fell. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
Rebecca and William married in 1870 in London. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
They lived in Fulham, and William was a builder and decorator, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
and Rebecca was a housewife. Gareth and the team finally had a family | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
to get their teeth into. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
So, once we'd identified the Fell family, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
we were able to locate the census records, the birth records | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
and we were really operating on quite safe ground now, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
and the initial problems that we had with this case, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
it was quite a relief, really, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:53 | |
in that it became normal research. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
But his relief would be short lived, when he noticed Edwin's mother, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
Grace Fell, had been born 22 years after her parents got married. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
There was a good chance they had children in those two decades. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Gareth checked the birth records with bated breath. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
We were able to locate quite a large number. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
In fact, a very large number. So, from the research, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
we discovered that William and Rebecca had ten further issue. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
It was a mountain for Gareth to climb, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
and he'd also discovered how much money Edwin had left. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
So, this case, it's not got any huge value - £27,000. But it's enough. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
It turned out Edwin hadn't owned his property in Fulham, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
but there was no giving up now. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
Gareth and the team were close to finding heirs. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
All cases have potential competition, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
and we have to work it as though other companies are looking at it. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
So he set about tracing William and Rebecca's children. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
So these are the maternal uncles and aunts of the deceased. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
-Sinead, that's the tree with what we've got so far. -OK. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
Research showed one of Edwin's maternal aunts, Jessie, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
had a daughter, Nora, who, in turn had a daughter called Jacqueline. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
After weeks of research, the team had finally found an heir | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
to Edwin's estate, and they set about contacting her. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
No problem at all. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Thanks. Bye-bye. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:21 | |
And for Jacqueline, the news was a bolt out of the blue. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
It was unbelievable. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
It came as a complete and utter shock. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
So I thought, "Oh, lovely, wonderful, whoopee! | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
"£1 million, here we come!" | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
It wasn't quite that! | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
With Gareth and the team likely to find many heirs, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Jacqueline's share of Edwin's estate would be low, but hearing about | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
Edwin Howard's life has been more than enough for her. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
It's definitely made me want to find out more about him. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
We have so many secrets in our families, and this was obviously, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
I would imagine, one of the secrets. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
And with Edwin and his mother having lived only 20 minutes | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
from Jacqueline's current home, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
regret had seeped in alongside her initial surprise. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
I think one of the saddest things, for me, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
is the fact that he was around. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
He died in London. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
-Keep that just in case. -Just in case. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
Back in the office, Gareth has rounded off the case. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
So we were able to locate a very large number of heirs, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
and we eventually ended up with 20 beneficiaries on this case. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
Heir Jacqueline is fascinated by Edwin's life and upbringing. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
In a way, I think I would rather have met him than receive money, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
just to know a little bit more about him, and... | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Because it's just... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
It's different. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
And she's keen to explore her family history further, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
and see what surprises it may have in store for her. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
And, yes, I'd like to do some research on the family. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Even possibly get in contact with the Qutab family. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:10 | |
Of course, they might be as shocked as I am! | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Back in London, heir hunters Finders International are looking into | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
the £100,000 estate of Eveline Southall. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
We managed to find three girls to this marriage. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
OK. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
But the team have discovered both sides of Eveline's family were huge, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
and had difficult surnames to trace. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
We had to order a lot of certificates to even get started | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
into descending each line, so we had to wait for those | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
to come back into the office before we could really begin | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
getting stuck into our research. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Suzanne and the team are hoping the certificate will set them | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
on the fast track to Eveline's heirs. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
And, since the first day of research, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
more information has come to light about Eveline's life and family. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
Her neighbour, Sue, remembers Eveline talking about her family. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
She used to tell me a lot about her mum and dad | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
who were brought up in Kingstanding, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
and she idolised her mum and dad. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
And from what I can believe, she had a good relationship | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
and they did a lot together as a family. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
Despite being close to her parents, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
it seems Eveline wasn't in touch with any extended family, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
so it was down to the heir hunters | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
to try and trace any living relatives. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
-So, do you want me to...? -George needs to be crossed off. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
Actually, who's the dad, as well? Is he one of these? | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
But the team had discovered Eveline had 23 aunts and uncles. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
Sorry, one, two, three, four, five. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
So there's two missing, so there should be two of these. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
In terms of research, it could be a mountain to climb. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
When you see there's so many lines to work, you often... | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Your heart sinks and you think this is going to be, like, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
months of work. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
Suzanne has had to order many records in order to trace | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
potential heirs to Eveline's estate. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Now, these are all certificates for the lines that have children on. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:18 | |
These really helped us to, you know, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
start research and descend each line down. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
But the certificates have revealed | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
some surprising information about the family. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
Now we've got the certificates in, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
we've actually worked out that although there were 15 lines | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
to start with on the paternal side, in fact only three of them actually | 0:34:34 | 0:34:41 | |
went on to marry and have children. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
Although the case was referred to them by a solicitor, there is still | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
the chance one of their competitors may also be searching | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
for Eveline's heirs. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
I wondered if you could look to see if you could find them. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
So Suzanne needs to work fast, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
and three of the team are helping track down Eveline's family. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
So, you know, just to go through it a bit more. Cool, thank you. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
It's all hands on deck. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
Holly is calling a potential cousin of Eveline's on her mother's side. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
Hi there, I'd like to speak to you about an inheritance matter. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
But Holly thinks she hears something | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
which could throw the whole case into doubt. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
So, you found a will listing... | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
If you let me just pop you on hold one moment, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
I'm just going to ask my colleague. Is that OK? | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
She said that she's found wills and things, and doesn't want to sell. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-What? -Basically, they're not interested. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
-She's found wills? -Yeah, I didn't understand what she was saying. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
Any mention of a will is alarming for the team, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
as it could mean all their work tracing family was for nothing. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
-Whose will? -Someone called Arthur. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
-Shall I just speak to her? -Probably best, yes. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
Oh, OK. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
But Holly confirms with the potential heirs | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
it's not Eveline's will. It's a huge relief for the team. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
However, Holly discovers a new problem. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
She said they looked into the tree, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
and I think they want to do it themselves. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
This potential heir wants to try and prove their claim | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
to Eveline's estate without Suzanne and the team's help. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
-It's a lot of work. -Yeah. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
-Because they're not that closely related, are they? -No. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
For Suzanne, it's yet another complication. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Holly's just spoken to a beneficiary. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
They're thinking that they might be able to do the research themselves. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
That's something that is absolutely fine for them to do, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
there's no reason why they shouldn't, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
but we do honestly point out to them the cost involved, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
with coming into some inheritance, and you may well eat up | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
any inheritance due in doing so. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
Hi, it's Suzanne, I'm calling in relation to the inheritance matter. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
But the team continue to make progress with other heirs, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
and start having more positive results. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
That's been very helpful, what you've told me. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
Suzanne is still looking for heirs on the maternal Manning side. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
She's found Eveline's mother had six siblings, one of whom was Alice. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
On the line of Alice Manning, a maternal aunt of the deceased, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:23 | |
she marries an Arthur Austins. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Now, I find it quite interesting to see that he was actually a gunmaker. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
Now, that was in 1915. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Looking at the occupations of family is a key element of any heir hunt, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
and is helping Suzanne trace potential heirs. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Alice and Arthur were living in Birmingham when it was a centre | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
for the production of guns for the entire British Empire. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
The gun making in Britain has always been a proud part of our history, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
and it dates back to the mid-17th century. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
The military side of things, it really was only Birmingham | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
and London that were producing guns in any sort of numbers. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
At one of the oldest gunmakers in Birmingham, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
they make guns as they would have done in Arthur's time. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
The process of the gun making, the actual filing, the fitting, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
how the lock work goes together and the tools they make | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
actually haven't changed at all in over 100 years. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Gunmakers were highly skilled, and would handcraft guns | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
to exceptionally high engineering standards. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
Every gun is totally unique to its own component parts. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
But when Arthur was working as a gunmaker in 1915, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
it was during World War I, and the British Army needed more guns, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
and fast. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
In Birmingham, the Lee-Enfield 303, the infantryman's rifle, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
and also the submachine gun, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
was actually both made just down the road from here. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Over the course of the war, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
four million rifles were made and sent to the front line, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
but once the war ended, fewer men were needed as gunmakers. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Their skills were also very transferable - | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
they were very skilled engineers - | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
and also Birmingham paved the way for industrialisation in Birmingham, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
and other factories soon set up after they sort of copied | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
styles of manufacturing from gun making, like sewing machines, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
car manufacturing, and even bicycle manufacturing. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Arthur Austins followed this path and became a toolmaker in Birmingham | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
after World War I... | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
I've found him! | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
..which Suzanne has discovered, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
as she's traced the three children he had with Eveline's aunt, Alice. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Three cousins of Eveline all passed away, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
but two did marry and had children themselves. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
On Alice's stem, there's actually three living heirs in total. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
After a very difficult start, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
the case of Eveline Southall is finally starting to come good, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
and Suzanne is able to contact these three heirs. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Two of them are brothers, Peter and John, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
who were shocked to hear from Suzanne. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
You think, "God, what's this?" | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
"You're in line for somebody leaving you something. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
-"Who can that be from?" -MIMICS RIPPING ENVELOPE | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
"Ah, this is a bit of a scam," like, you know? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
But Suzanne convinced them it was real. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
-Is that all right? -Yeah. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
And today, travelling researcher Dave is visiting Peter and John, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
to explain the research in more detail. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Bit of a murky day, so I'm hoping the traffic's going to be good. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
Peter and John knew their cousin Eveline, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
but lost contact for most of their life, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
so they're now keen to know more about their family tree, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
as parts of it are still a mystery to them. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
We'll take the opportunity then of trying to find out the history | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
of the family. We know very, very little. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
-Hi, is it John? -Yeah, hello. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
Hi. I believe you're expecting me. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Yes, I am, come in. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
-Thank you. -Follow me. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
This is my brother, Peter. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
I think I've got a bit of an interesting story to tell you. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Oh, good. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:11 | |
The first thing I think you might find interesting is the stages | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
where we're up to at the moment with the family tree. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
So, as you can see, it spreads across... | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
..quite a bit of pages. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
-It's quite a big family. -It is, isn't it? | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
Peter and John are most interested in their grandfather, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
Arthur Austins, who they knew very little about. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Frankly, I didn't know that me grandfather's name was Arthur. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
Oh, right. That's a new one. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
We never met him. They died before we were born. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
Right. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
And Arthur's various jobs strike a chord with the brothers. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
So, there we go. And he's down as a toolmaker. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
He was a toolmaker. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
-You were a tool...? -I was a toolmaker, yeah. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
-What did you do? -Until we moved to Blackpool. In the motor industry. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
In the motor industry? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
Yeah, we made the dyes for making the cast skins, you know. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
Back in the office, the team have finally tracked down | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
almost all the heirs. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
The good news is that we've had all of the certificates in | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
that we need now, and we've spoken to family members, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
and it turns out that both sides of the family is correct, and we have | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
received some signatures back from the majority of beneficiaries. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
They found 34 heirs in total, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
a huge amount from a family who had ended up being so small. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
Heirs Peter and John are happy to have been reconnected | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
with their family history. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
It's actually solved a couple of minor mysteries, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
as to who my grandfather was, and it's very, very interesting | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
to find out. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:53 | |
And it's brought happy memories of Eveline flooding back. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
It was very, very nice to put a face to a name, and it was nice to say, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
"I knew Eveline quite well." | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 |