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Today, the Heir Hunters battle | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
with one of the biggest cases they've looked at. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
We've exceeded the length of the table and this is one third of that family tree. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
But could all their hard work be for nothing? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
If there's a will in there, then I will personally | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
be absolutely devastated. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Whilst the search is on for a missing son... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
We now had a serious theory that Richard Camden was the same man. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:30 | |
..they make a horrific discovery. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Sometimes you can find that a family has been affected by tragic chapters | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
in world history. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
It's all in a day's work for the Heir Hunters. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
All right, thank you very much for your time. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Take care, bye-bye. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
Heir Hunters at firm Fraser & Fraser are working on a case | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
that has snowballed into a scale that has rarely been seen before. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
In 20 years, I would say this is either the biggest | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
or the second biggest family that I've ever dealt with. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
It's certainly up there. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Who's free? Anybody? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
Researchers from both the London and Edinburgh offices have spent | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
the last two and a half years trying to crack the case of David Brown, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
who died in 2014, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
leaving behind an estate worth an estimated £150,000. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
I have lost heart with this case a few times, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
because it seems like an insurmountable challenge. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
Today, case manager Karen Johannesson | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
is on her way to revisit David Brown's house | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
to carry out a search that could make or break the case. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
We'll have a good look around and we'll look and see if there's | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
any personal effects, any personal letters. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
There's the possibility of unearthing something that could mean | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
all of Karen's efforts over the last two years have been for nothing. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
If there's a will in there, then that changes absolutely everything. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
I will personally be absolutely devastated, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
because I've worked so hard on this case. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
That's it there. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Thanks. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
This house, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
situated in the small Scottish fishing village of Pittenweem, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
was originally David's parents' home, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
and his grandparents before them. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
-Oh, wow. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
As the sole asset in this estate, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
it's a relief to see the house is still in one piece. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Yep. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:42 | |
There's still water running. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
If not in need of some TLC. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
So much dust. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
This is the only known photograph of David Brown, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
taken at a business conference. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
David passed away on 20th February 2014. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Although little is known about his life, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
David never married | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
and in his final years, he became something of a recluse. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
He kept very much himself to himself. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
He was, um, a smiley man. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
He always had a nice smile. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Neighbour Sarah McLeod's family has owned the house next door | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
to David's for over 100 years. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
But he spent much of his time working away. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
He was a sort of travelling salesman. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
He had worked in England most of the time when I was growing up, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
so I got to know him when he was a retired man. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
Sarah was with David during his final days. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
I popped in to see him, and he was in bed, bedridden, couldn't speak, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
but we did make eye contact, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
and I touched his hand and stuff, and that was the last time I saw him | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
and I think that was... he died the next day. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
I felt sad, because the nurses told me nobody had been in to see him. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
It's believed David didn't leave a will. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
But at his house, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
Karen needs to double-check that nothing was missed | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
last time she came. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
Something special. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
Ah, right. The big bedroom. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
This one's got a fireplace. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
-A working fireplace... -INDISTINCT SPEECH | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
With no sign of any will, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
Karen's search for David's relatives is more important than ever. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
It's Karen here. How are you doing? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Today's house visit is the latest stage in a case that first landed on | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
Karen's desk in October 2014, having been advertised as unclaimed. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
I was interested immediately because it was on the high street | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
in Pittenweem, and I guessed from that | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
that he would probably own that property. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
The hunt to find David Brown's heirs was now on. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
What's his mother's maiden name? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
Heir Hunters work on commission, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
taking a pre-agreed percentage of the estate. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
But although David Brown's property is worth a healthy £150,000, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
there are no guarantees the commission | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
will be enough to cover their costs. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
The biggest gamble for our work is that when a case | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
first lands on my desk, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
I don't know if we're going to end up with a single beneficiary | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
and a £1 million estate, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
or 180 beneficiaries and a £20,000 estate. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
It's a massive gamble for us to start work. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
It was a gamble Karen was willing to take. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
She already knew David died a bachelor | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and didn't have any children. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
We're thinking about, does he have siblings? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
We knew that the Brown family were in Pittenweem, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Anstruther and Cellardyke, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
so we did our birth searches in those areas | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
and I was satisfied that he did not have any brothers or sisters. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Establishing David Brown was an only child meant | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
that any hopes of a quick resolution fell by the wayside. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
We know that we're going to be doing a case involving cousins, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
which most of our cases usually are. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
So that means we're going to do his mother's family tree | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
and his father's family tree, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
and find out any of his cousins and their descendants. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Searching for cousins can involve a lot of research, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
but Karen was about to make a surprising discovery. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Mr Brown had no heirs in the class of cousins, or their descendants. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
It was bad news for the team, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
and if David Brown had died in England, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
the case could've stalled there and then. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
But David died in Scotland, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
which meant there was a glimmer of hope for Karen. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
In England, once you've exhausted the class of first cousins and | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
their descendants, the estate will then fall to the Treasury. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
However, in Scotland, we have the option to work back | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
to second cousins and their descendants. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
But going back an extra generation to look for second cousins | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
meant this case could snowball into one of the biggest | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
the firm has ever dealt with. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
The time taken to do research obviously is massively extended, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
and the time taken to contact and, er, hopefully get a contract | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
from all the beneficiaries is extended even further. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Thank you, bye. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
And with no guarantee of finding any heirs, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
the team had a big decision to make. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
You have to make that judgment call. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Was it worth going back another generation | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
and potentially unleashing four new family trees? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Despite the risk, the team was determined to crack this case. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
But the sheer size of the research meant that Karen needed the full | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
resources of the team in London. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
File number four, which is the current file... | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
Case manager Gareth Langford would lead the research in London, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
and he started by looking into David's maternal grandfather, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Andrew Anderson. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
And all their fears about the scale of the research were realised. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
Just opening up the family tree on one branch, so the Anderson branch, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
we've exceeded the length of the table, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
and this is one third of that family tree. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
The research costs were now spiralling out of control, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
but more worryingly, there was still no sign of any heirs. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
I don't think we despair when we're looking at cases. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
When we start a case, you know, the entire | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
objective is to locate all the beneficiaries. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
So, you know, if you start a case, you've got to finish it. Otherwise, what's the point? | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
In Scotland, things weren't looking any better. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
These are big families. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
Euphemia married Mr Gardiner and had seven issue. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Elizabeth married Mr Gardiner's brother, Philip Gardiner, and had four issue. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
But it wasn't just the size of the families that was causing problems. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
As Karen began to establish the all-important second cousins, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
she hit another stumbling block. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
All the second cousins have passed away, and so we're looking | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
at their descendants, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
and sometimes we're coming down three or four generations. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Now, this is really complex, even for professional genealogists. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
With the research snowballing, the case was looking like a bigger | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
and bigger gamble for the team. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
I'll be surprised if we break even. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Erm, but, you know, as we often say, once you start a case, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
you've got to finish it. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
Hi, this is Hector Birchwood, I'm returning your call. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Many estates stay unclaimed for many years on the Bona Vacantia list, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
and sometimes new information comes to light, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
and hopefully, that is what allows us to break through the case. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
The Heir Hunters team at firm Celtic Research is trying to wrap up | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
one of those cases. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
Well, he was entitled to a share in an estate. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
When they first looked into the case of Jacqueline Rubin in 2011, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
they had no idea it would prove such a tough nut to crack. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
It can be very frustrating when a new case comes out | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
and there's very little information. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
So, sometimes, if we can't make a breakthrough, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
the very best we can do is just hope for something to come through | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
maybe later on. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
Jacqueline Rubin died a widow in 2008. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Very little is known about her life, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
other than that she grew up in north-west London, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
where she worked as a dressmaker. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Jacqueline didn't make a will, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
so her £31,000 estate was first advertised as unclaimed in 2009. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
But three years later, no potential heirs have come forward | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
and Hector Birchwood thought it was worth a closer look. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
I noticed that Rubin was a Jewish name, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
and we have our own in-house Jewish specialist, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
and so I decided to send it to him. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
We trace the next of kin of people who have died intestate. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
That specialist was case manager Saul Marks. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
As with most cases, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Saul began with trying to establish some basic facts, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
and it was immediately clear he was facing an uphill struggle. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
In this case, we could find no birth or marriage listing for Jacqueline, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
so we didn't know whether Rubin was her maiden name, or whether she | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
was married and it was her married name. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
So straight away, the whole thing stalled. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
Saul was beginning to understand why the case had been unclaimed, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
but although he put it to one side, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
he was determined not to be beaten by it. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Sometimes when the research on a case is stalled, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
you've got to really hope that there's a piece of information | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
which comes to light which allows you to move forward again, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
and this can be a whole variety of things, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
but sometimes you're just looking for one big breakthrough. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
And over two years later, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
the breakthrough Saul desperately needed finally arrived. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
When the Treasury Solicitor's Department actually reformatted | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
the way that they publicise unclaimed estates, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
for Jacqueline's estate they included a maiden name of de Good. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
So suddenly we now knew that Rubin was her married name, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
and de Good was her maiden name, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
and we could get on with working the case at last. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
For Saul, the race was now on. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
We could then look for a marriage certificate | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
for a de Good to a Rubin | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
and there was only one. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
It's actually Simon Rubin marrying Jacoba de Good. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
Now, Jacoba and Jacqueline are obviously different names, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
but her age on the marriage certificate | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
ties in with the age that we believe Jacqueline would be. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
So this had to be her. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
With no time to waste, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Saul began searching for the next of kin | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
and he very quickly found exactly what he was looking for. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
They had a son, named Bernard Leon Rubin, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
on 12th July 1929. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
The parents' names match up and that's fine. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
However, Saul's excitement was short-lived. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
So the next task was to try and find Bernard. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Problem was we just couldn't find him. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
He just vanishes off the face of the Earth. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Jacqueline's son Bernard could be the sole heir to her estate, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
but the major problem was Saul didn't know | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
whether he was dead or alive. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
So it's very important to try and find the closest kin, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
but that's not always very easy. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
It's actually quite difficult at times to prove | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
that someone did or didn't have very close kin. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Unable to trace son Bernard, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
Saul had to decide whether he should take a risk and search for | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
potential heirs in the wider family. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
The problem is... | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
you might commit a lot of time and resources to tracing the cousins | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
and finding all these potential heirs - | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
we're still left with this mystery of what happened | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
to Jacqueline's son, Bernard. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
If we could find him, he would inherit | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
and none of the cousins would. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Saul and the team decided to take the risk | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and began his search for Jacqueline's relatives. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
OK, thanks very much. Bye. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
He suspected Jacqueline's maiden name, Jacoba, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
may originate from Holland. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
In yet another twist to this case, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Saul's search for heirs had now gone overseas. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
The firm's Dutch agents started building a family tree, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and they soon discovered some crucial information. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
The name was actually Hijman and it did come from Holland. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
We'd established that Jacqueline's only sister hadn't had any children, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
so there were no nieces and nephews. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
The Dutch agent now started looking for Jacqueline's extended family | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
on the paternal side, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
and established she had six aunts and uncles | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
that were living in Amsterdam in the early 1940s. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
But nothing could prepare Saul for what the Dutch agent | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
was about to discover. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
Sometimes you can find that a family has been affected | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
by tragic chapters in world history. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
At the start of the Second World War, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
there were over 140,000 Jewish people living in Holland. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
But as Hitler's troops swept across Europe, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
the lives of these Dutch Jews were about to be placed in peril. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
After only five days, the Netherlands surrendered, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
the royal family fled to the UK and Amsterdam was occupied | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
by German forces. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
In 1941, Hitler ordered all Jewish people in Holland | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
to declare themselves and the segregation began. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
A number of measures was put in place to discriminate | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
against the Jews. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
Jewish officials were dismissed from their jobs, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
forced labour measures were put in place | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
and Jews were being arrested and interned. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
Many tried to flee the country. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
Others made attempts to hide. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Martin Stern was a young Jewish boy living in Amsterdam. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
One day, my father disappeared and my mother | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
wouldn't tell me where he was. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
And still at the age of three, not long afterwards, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
my mother stopped me from playing with children in the street. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
It was too dangerous for people to know that there was a little boy, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
the son of a Jew, living in that flat. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
By 1942, the deportation of Jewish people had begun. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Martin and his youngest sister were taken to Westerbork, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
a Dutch transit camp in north-west Holland. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Creosoted wooden huts, barbed wire, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
watchtowers and the first thing I remember being told | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
is, "Don't go anywhere near that barbed wire - | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
"the soldiers in those watchtowers have got guns | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
"and they will shoot you dead." | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
The rest of the camp was disgustingly crowded, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
which meant people were fighting each other over space. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
And the food consisted of vegetables | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
that a normal person would throw in the bin. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Over 100,000 Dutch Jews passed through Westerbork, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
where they were destined for extermination camps | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
in Poland and Germany. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
When they were full, the trucks were full, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
the doors were shut and sealed with steel wire. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
And even in my ignorance at the age of five, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
I knew that wasn't normal for a railway journey. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
I realised what was happening. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Martin and his youngest sister's names were never called. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
They were amongst the few that survived. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
Saul tragically discovered | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
that 31 members of Jacqueline Rubin's family were not so lucky. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
The case of the Rubin family appears to be extreme, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
with 31 members of one family being murdered during the Holocaust. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
The discovery of such horrific news now meant that once again, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
Saul's search for Jacqueline's heirs was thrown into jeopardy. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
Looking at the almost total decimation of this family | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
in the Holocaust in Holland, it really made us wonder, well, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
maybe the maternal side suffered a similar fate. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
If the elusive son Bernard cannot be found, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
the big question now for Saul and the team | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
was were there going to be any heirs? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Every year in Britain, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
thousands of people get a surprise knock on the door | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
from the Heir Hunters. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
That's good news for you. You can order the Ferrari. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
Well, hang on a minute, we haven't found the will yet! | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
As well as handing over life-changing sums of money, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
the Heir Hunters can bring long-lost relatives back together. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
I'm so lucky because I've met up with all of you! | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
But thousands of estates have eluded the Heir Hunters | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and remain unsolved. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Today, we've got details of two estates yet to be claimed. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Could you be the person the Heir Hunters are looking for, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
or know someone that is? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
The first case is James Finnegan Noone, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
who was born on 4th October 1929 in southern Ireland. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
And died on 22nd September 1990 in Bromley in Kent. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
James died a bachelor but it is believed | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
he may have had several siblings in Ireland. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Is there a chance you could be related or know someone that is? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
The next case is of Winifred Flude, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
who was born Winifred Clarke on 14th July 1899 | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
in Irchester in Northamptonshire. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
And died on 7th May 1988 in Wellingborough. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
She was the wife of George Flude and also had a brother, Reggie Clarke, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
who died in Tunbridge Wells in 1987. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Do you know a Flude or a Clarke? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
If so, you could be in line for a surprise windfall. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
I'm calling from a company in London. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Heir Hunters at firm Fraser & Fraser | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
had taken on the case of David Brown, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
who had died in the Scottish town of Pittenweem in 2014. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Need to be in Pittenweem at about 11 o'clock. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Having initially thought there were no heirs, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
the search for living relatives had now snowballed. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
The size of this family, it grew and grew | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
and the more I researched, the more I realised how big this family was. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
Scottish law had allowed the team to go back an extra generation | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
to look for second cousins, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
sending the team's workload through the roof. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
But if they didn't find any heirs, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
all the time and money spent on this case would be for nothing. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
It means constant pressure on us, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
not just to find the beneficiaries but find them as quickly | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
and as efficiently as possible. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
We knew there weren't going to be any surviving second cousins, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
so it was going to be in the class of their descendants. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Karen and the team in London | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
faced one of the biggest challenges in the firm's history | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
as they now had 26 stems of David's great aunts and uncles | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
to investigate across four family trees. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
It's research that could take years to complete. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
But the size of the families wasn't the only challenge | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
Karen had to overcome. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
The deceased David Brown was an engineer, as was his father. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
His father was also David Brown | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
and his paternal grandfather was David Brown. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
Some of the unique traits we find with Scottish research | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
is how a name can be passed down through generations. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
We often find one, two, three, | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
sometimes four generations of people, all with identical names. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
And it wasn't just names David and his ancestors shared. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
His paternal grandfather, David Brown, was a fisherman | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
in the town of Cellardyke and from there, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
when we did all that research into that part of the family, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
the Browns were almost entirely involved in the fishing industry. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Pittenweem Harbour, where the deceased David grew up, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
is still one of the most active fishing ports | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
on the east coast of Fife in Scotland. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
It was first recorded as a fishing port in 1228 | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
but it wasn't until the latter part of the 19th century | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
that the fishing industry hit its peak, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
as the world's appetite for Scottish herring was at an all-time high. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
Well, this boat would have been seasonally involved | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
in the herring fishing. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
She would have had a crew of eight men and a boy on board at that time. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
David Brown's grandfather would have worked on a similar boat | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
to this one, which is over 100 years old. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
It's a year-round industry, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
particularly for people in this kind of community. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Undoubtedly a tough life and a hard life and a dangerous one. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:20 | |
But in the early 20th century, the herring industry was in decline, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
so many local men forged more stable careers | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
outside of the traditional family trade, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
including David Brown's father, who became an engineer. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
If you had a son, you would be wanting your son | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
to have a better life | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
and they wouldn't want him to be involved with the fishing. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
The younger David Brown distanced himself even further | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
from the family trade, opting for a career in sales. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
I don't think there would have been any difficulty about, you know, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
disloyalty to the industry, as it were, by opting out. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
But it was David's fisherman grandfather | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
that was about to give the team a breakthrough. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
We found that on the paternal grandfather's family, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
there were only two lines that required our research | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
and on one of those lines, we came down to James Barclay. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
But the burning question was, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
had Karen finally uncovered one of David Brown's heirs? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
He is a second cousin to the deceased, three times removed. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Karen wasted no time contacting James, who's known as Jim, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
to break the news. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
I didn't recognise the name. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
It didn't really mean anything to me until I started digging | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
in my father's old albums and suchlike | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
and I saw there was a great... | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
his great grandfather was a David Brown. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
Jim lived in Pittenweem, the same village as David Brown, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
until he was ten years old. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
Despite his family only moving to a neighbouring village | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
24 miles further up the coast, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
he has no recollection of any contact with the Brown family. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
My grandmother was Maggie Reid | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
and that's my granny at seven years old in 1896 | 0:27:27 | 0:27:33 | |
and she was the offspring of a marriage between Adam Reid | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
and Elizabeth Brown and that's where the connection | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
with the Brown family comes in, a couple of generations ago. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
So, that's why we're sitting here today. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Since researching his family history... | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
I've got quite a few photographs on the walls through my hidey-hole. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
..Jim's discovered his grandparents | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
were also from a family of fishermen. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
The Reids were long-time fishermen, going back to the 1700s. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:09 | |
This was Adam Reid's boat. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
That's his son's boat, the younger Adam Reid. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
Back in London, the search for other beneficiaries was gathering pace | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
and it was becoming clear | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
Jim wasn't going to be the only heir in this case. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
Our first beneficiary is here and if we open up the family tree, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:35 | |
it'll eventually lead to our last beneficiary. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
This is actually really difficult. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
We've already exceeded the desk and I'd say I'm a third, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
a third through the first family. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
I knew that I was going to be looking at four family trees | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
because he had no cousins | 0:28:51 | 0:28:52 | |
but I just didn't anticipate how big this case was going to be. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
At the house, Karen has invited heir and keen family historian Jim | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
over to have a look through some of David's heirlooms | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
in case they're relevant to the search. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
Come on in. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
So, here it is. I guess this was the more, the more casual front room. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
That'll take me back a bit. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
This just takes you straight through to the kitchen. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
I guess it's a scullery, isn't it? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Just so funny to think of Mr Brown living here, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
right up till he passed away two years ago! | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Upstairs, there's one particular item Karen wants Jim to see, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
a family record book known as a family Bible. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
Parents' names, David Brown, born November 28th, 1828. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:44 | |
-And that's his wife. -That's David Brown's grandfather then, that's... | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
I would think so. Yes, that's his grandfather, isn't it? | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
People used books like this to keep a record of family births, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
deaths and marriages. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
John Brown, drowned at sea April 8th, 1890. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
-Drowned at sea, is that what it says? -Yes. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Family Bibles were quite the...quite a thing. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
It's a really good record, isn't it? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
It's a great way to keep in touch, especially in a bigger family. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Certainly interesting. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
There's nothing in the record book that changes Karen's research. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
But for Jim, it's been an enlightening afternoon. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
It's intriguing to see an old house like that, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
just with hardly any changes from the year dot, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
you know, it's all very interesting. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Karen has just one more piece of business at the house. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Hi, is it Eric? | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-How are you doing? -How are you doing? I'm Karen. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
-Hi, nice to meet you. -Great to see you. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
-I'm really glad you could come down today. -You're welcome. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
She's invited antique clock expert Eric Young round | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
to value the two grandfather clocks that belonged to David. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
This clock was made by George Lumsden from Pittenweem. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
David's property is estimated to be worth £150,000 | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
and the clocks could add value to his estate. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
And I'm dying to ask you, how much do you think these clocks are worth? | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
Each clock would need to be | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
given a value of £5,000. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
-£5,000? -Yes, £5,000 without question. -For each clock? | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
For each clock, they are absolutely incredible examples | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
-of East Neuk clock-making. -Wow! | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
That is amazing, that really is amazing. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
Thanks so much, Eric. Take care, bye-bye. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
The clocks are a welcome addition to the estate. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
For the team in the office, their research is finally complete. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
In total, they found an incredible 192 heirs. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
The majority of the heirs are entitled to a 123rd of this estate | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
but there are beneficiaries that are more distantly related | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
and they're going to receive a 738th of the estate. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
So, although they're not going to receive any life-changing amounts, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
you know, it's where the money should go. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
After two and a half years of hard work, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Karen and the team in London are now tying up the loose ends. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Having uncovered a forgotten family's history, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
as well as 192 heirs, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
it's been nothing short of an incredible journey. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
In this case, I really do think it's going to pay off for the company | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
but even if it doesn't, it's been a massive learning curve for me | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
as a professional. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
I've really, really enjoyed working on David Brown's history. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
It's just been so fascinating. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
What we'd like to do, we send you a form | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
to allow us to put your claim forward to the estate. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
Heir Hunters at Celtic Research have been looking for beneficiaries | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
to the estate of Jacqueline Rubin, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
a Jewish lady who died a widow in London in 2008, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
leaving behind an estate worth £31,000. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
The parents' names match up and that's fine. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
Saul managed to track down Jacqueline's family in Holland, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
only to find they had been decimated during the Holocaust. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Which now raised the serious question, were there any heirs? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
Jacqueline did have a son, Bernard, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
but tracking him down was proving near impossible. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
We just couldn't find him anywhere | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
but we had to find him or eliminate him somehow. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
With Saul's search for Bernard at a standstill, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
the firm's Dutch agent began to investigate the maternal side | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
of Jacqueline's family, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
to see if any of them had survived the Holocaust. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
There were some problems with this because | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
Jacqueline's parents actually kept moving between London and Amsterdam | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
and they went back and forth quite a few times. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
The Dutch agent had their work cut out tracking the family's movements | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
but when they finally pieced it all together, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Saul was in for a huge surprise. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
Miraculously, there was one branch that survived. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
Thankfully, they had actually left Holland | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
and were away from Holland at the time of the Nazi invasion. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
The first time in this case, Saul had a positive lead. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
Jacqueline's mother was Esther Glasoog. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
She had a number of brothers. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
Her youngest brother was Samuel Glasoog. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
He came to this country and he became known as Samuel Glass. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
Jacqueline's uncle, Samuel Glass, married Frances Davis in July 1908 | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
and they had two children. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
One of those children, Rebecca Baldock, stayed in London | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
and had three children of her own and seven grandchildren. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Saul was on the cusp of finding his first potential heirs. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
With the elusive son Bernard, who would be sole heir if alive, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
still unaccounted for, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
Saul began trying to make contact with the people he'd found. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
One of them was Samuel's great-granddaughter, Barbara, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
whose mum Phyllis could be an heir. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
Do you remember when I got the phone call from Saul? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
Oh, yes, we were amazed, weren't we? We thought it was all a joke. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
Seven years after Jacqueline Rubin's estate had been advertised, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Saul had found a potential heir. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
Yeah, it was quite exciting. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
But we weren't told how much it was at that time. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
It just so happened Barbara was a keen amateur genealogist | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
who'd spent 15 years looking into her own family trees. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
This is him outside a tailor shop which he opened in New Zealand. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
And she was particularly interested | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
in her great-grandfather, Samuel Glass. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
This is a picture of Samuel in a boxing pose. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
Samuel was born in Holland and moved to London | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
when he was just a year old. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
By the age of 16, he'd joined a boxing school, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
and within a couple of years, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
he'd forged a reputation | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
as one of London's most feared bare-knuckle boxers. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
He boxed under the name of The Professor. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
He became welterweight champion, which is very interesting - | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
he only had one eye, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:19 | |
which was the result of an accident with a nail when he was a child, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
but he kept that secret. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
In the late 1800s and early 1900s, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
bare-knuckle boxing was still at the height of its popularity, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
with some bouts in London drawing crowds in their thousands. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
And not just from the working classes. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
Fighters in those days were owned by noblemen. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
So, you having a boxer, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
that was bragging rights, that you had the best fighter in your stable. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
So, you'd want to take him around, "Look, I've got the champion, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
"I've got the British bare-knuckle champion. He's my... | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
"This is my guy!" | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
And all dressed up to the nines to go and watch bare-knuckle fights. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
In the early 1900s, when Samuel was at the peak of his career, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
the longest recorded fight had lasted over six hours. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
So, it wasn't for the faint-hearted. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
You had to be a pretty tough individual to be involved | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
in bare-knuckle fighting back then. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
You have to remember there were no paramedics. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
You were on your own. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
You were like, you would have to go fight...to the death. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
Samuel wasn't just a successful fighter. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
He was a huge influence on the sport. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
He was responsible for taking boxing to the Netherlands. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
After that, he was very active in the boxing world | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
and he was a coach to the boxing team that went to Berlin. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
Remarkably, Samuel only lost two fights during his boxing career, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
and finally retired at age 40. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
But it was what Samuel did outside of the ring | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
that would have an impact on the heir hunt. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
Samuel married here in London in 1908 and had two children. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
He then left and returned to Amsterdam | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
and married again in 1911 - that's only three years later - | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
to another lady and had two further children. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Samuel's second marriage to a female boxer | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
was something of a family scandal. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
He wasn't actually divorced from my great-grandmother, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
so it was a bigamous marriage. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
And they had two daughters together. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
It was mind-blowing, actually. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Sometimes in our research, we come across instances of bigamy, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
where a person has married a second time, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
having not been widowed or divorced from their first spouse. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Whilst that can cause all sorts of | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
social and psychological complications | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
for the families involved, from a genealogical research point of view, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
it doesn't actually have that much effect | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
because the descendants of both those marriages | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
would be entitled to inherit. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
The crucial thing for the whole family is that when Samuel | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
left for Amsterdam, his first wife, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
Barbara's great-grandmother, stayed behind. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
If Gran had gone to Amsterdam with him, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
would she have been a survivor of the Holocaust? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
We don't know. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:40 | |
Or would she have been able to get back to England | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
before it all started? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
Saul's research into Jacqueline's wider family was complete, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
and he found a total of 18 potential heirs. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
But there was still one unanswered question | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
that threatened to undo all of Saul's hard work. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
What had happened to Jacqueline's son, Bernard? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
Sometimes you might have done a lot of work to trace the cousins | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
and not got any further towards finding out | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
whether these cousins are actually entitled to inherit or not. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
But we just couldn't find him. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
There was no marriage listing for him, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
there was no death listing for him. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
He just vanishes and it was a real head-scratcher. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
But by looking through electoral records, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Saul was about to make a surprising discovery. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
I found them living in Maida Vale. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Jacqueline and Simon Rubin are listed there. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
But there's also a gentleman named Richard Camden. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
At this point, Saul didn't know quite how significant | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
the name Richard Camden was. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
I looked at some more records and I came across this. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:51 | |
This is a ship manifest | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
for a ship leaving London in 1960 | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
and one of the passengers is Richard Camden. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
His exact date of birth was 12th July 1929. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
Where had I seen that before? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
Only on Bernard's birth certificate. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
We now had a serious theory that Richard Camden, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
born on 12th July 1929, was the same man as Bernard Leon Rubin. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:25 | |
Saul set about searching American death records, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
looking for a Richard Camden. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
And he was in for a surprise. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
There was indeed a Richard Camden of the right date of birth | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
who died in Los Angeles in 1992. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
It was another tragic twist in the tale of Jacqueline's family. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
And it meant Saul's research had come to an end. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
So, thanks to this death certificate, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
we've been able to prove definitively that all those cousins | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
from all over the world are now unequivocally heirs | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
to Jacqueline's estate, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
and all the research that we did to find them | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
has not gone to waste after all. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
Phyllis, along with 17 other beneficiaries, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
is set to share Jacqueline's £31,000 estate. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
It turned out to be quite good, actually, you know, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
and we've learned a lot from it, haven't we? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
For Saul, it meant that eight years after the case was first advertised, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
the search for Jacqueline's heirs was finally over. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
There were a lot of problems and we had to put it aside | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
and we came back to it, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:38 | |
and the fact that we could then come back to it and solve it, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
and there are quite a number of heirs internationally... | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
We've worked well with our Dutch partner on this. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
I'm really quite pleased with how the whole thing has worked out. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
The fact that my cousins | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
are set to inherit some money, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
I think it's quite interesting. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
It's made me start delving again into my family history. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
I love it. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 |