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Today, the heir hunters get stuck at the first hurdle. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
We're struggling to find births for most of the aunts and uncles. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
And doors just keep closing. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Not having a lot of joy at the moment. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
The beneficiary isn't in and the near neighbours aren't in either. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
While, on another case, common names cause a major headache. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
I've gone from Scott to Smith and from bad to worse. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
And even basic information proves illusive. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
He didn't even know his exact date of birth. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
He simply stated his birth was circa 1903. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
It's all in a day's work for the heir hunters. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
In London, it's all go at heir hunting firm Finders International. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
It's going to be highly competitive. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
If I can get you on the road as soon as possible. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
The government's Bona Vacantia division has just released | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
a new list of unclaimed estates. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
There's a relatively big list on the Bona Vacantia website today. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
The team have trawled through the list | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
to try and establish which cases have value | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
and the estate of a man called Kenneth Arthur Mead | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
has immediately jumped out. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
This case that we've picked, we have roughly valued it at about £300,000. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
This is because we know that Kenneth Arthur Mead | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
owned his property in Beckenham. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
On a high-value case like this, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
competition between heir hunting firms will be intense, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
so the team need to drop everything and work together | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
to try and find heirs as fast as possible. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
It's important for us, when we're starting off, to reach the person | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
before the competition, so it can be quite frantic. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Kenneth Arthur Mead passed away on 11th August, 2016, aged 81, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:57 | |
having spent much of his life living on this quiet residential street. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
He was a popular figure in the local community | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
and neighbour Pauline remembers him as a proper gentleman. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
He introduced himself as I came through the door. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Very pleasant, very tidy-looking man, very dapper. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
But Kenneth wasn't always the quietest person | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
to live next door to. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
Indoors, he was a very noisy man. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
He liked his dance music. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
That was always going on. He always had the radio. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
He'd shout at the telly now and again. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
Sadly, though, one day the music stopped. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
I'd been on holiday, I'd been away for a week. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
And I came home, and it was so quiet and Ken's car hadn't moved, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
and I just thought, "Oh, this is really funny." | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
And the next morning, I said, "I'm going to ring up the police." | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
And, yeah, they did find him. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
So, it was quite sad that he was up there on his own. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Kenneth hadn't left a will and with no known next of kin, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
his estate was passed to the government's legal department. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
And in London, the search for his heirs is on. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
So, it's back on that side of the family that we've been looking into. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Case manager Ryan only has very basic information to start with. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
We've got date of birth and date of death. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
And the first step is to try and establish | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
if Kenneth had any immediate family. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
We've confirmed he was a bachelor. It's always best to double-check | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
cos that's a key bit of information that we'll need, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
in terms of looking for entitled heirs. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Having ruled out a marriage or children for Kenneth, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
the next step is to try and identify who his parents were | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
to see if he had any siblings. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
And Ryan has the information. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
His father was Arthur George Mead. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
His mother was Lily Mead, formerly Woolcott. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
His parents married in 1930 in Southwark. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
But when it comes to finding records for Kenneth's father, Arthur, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
Ryan hits a snag. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:01 | |
For Kenneth's father, there's a couple of possible births | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
that tie in with a death in Croydon in 1979. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
There's one in Southwark which would, obviously, tie in | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
with the area where the parents married. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
There's also one in Bethnal Green, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
which is east London instead of south-east. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
So, we're going to go with Southwark for now. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
It's a bit of a guess, but it's an educated guess, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
based on the area where the parents married. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
But although Ryan's confident | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
he's identified the correct Arthur George Mead, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
he can't be certain. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
Without actual certificates in hand, we're never 100% sure | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
whether a bit of research we're doing in 100% correct. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
It's a bit of a punt, but it's something we have to do | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
when we're researching an urgent case. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
If Ryan's got it right, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
the team have a good chance of beating the competition, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
but if he's picked the wrong Arthur Mead, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
all their research will be for nothing. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Were you able to get certs from Southwark? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
Working from the marriage in Southwark, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
the team establish that Kenneth was an only child. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Can I leave these with you? | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
-When Dee's off the phone, see if she can order them locally. -Yeah. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Next, they need to find out | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
if Kenneth's parents had brothers and sisters. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Researcher Holly focuses on his father, Arthur, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
and finds six siblings. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Three of the stems died as infants, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
so it looks like it's going to be quite small on this side, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
and it looks like two of the stems married and had no issue, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
so we're relying on one stem to get an heir on this side at the moment. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
While Holly cracks on with the paternal side, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Ryan is looking into the maternal side. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
First record we found, which is most useful for us, is the 1911 census. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
The records show that Kenneth's maternal grandfather, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Charles Woolcott, had a very unusual career. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
He worked as a gas lamplighter, patrolling the streets at dusk, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
ensuring roads and pavements were properly illuminated. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
The actual first gas lamps that we got, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
they were installed on 31st December, 1813. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
There was 25 lamps installed on Westminster Bridge. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
The main difference back from 1890, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
when Charles was looking after the lamps, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
was it was far more labour-intensive back then from what it is now. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
The lamp attendant would have had to go round, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
manually pulling them on and off all over London. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
Now we've got clocks that do it for us on a pilot light, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
so it's all automated, so it's not anywhere near as labour-intensive | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
as it would have been back in Charles's day. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
When gas lamps were introduced to the city streets | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
in the 19th century, it was little short of a revolution. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Lighting before gas | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
was oil and before oil was candles. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
The main benefits, really, were that you could have | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
a continuous source of supply and a continuous light. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
Obviously, both candles and oil run out. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Gas lighting suddenly gave an ability to cleanly light the streets | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
to start with, and quite a lot later, for the interiors of houses. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
Today, there are fewer than 2,000 gas street lamps in the country. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
But in Westminster, Iain and Gary are proud to keep up | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
the daily tradition of lighting them up. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
So, what Gary's doing now is a bit of maintenance on it. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
The pilot light needs adjusted on this one. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
The mantles are very, very fine. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
When they heat up, they become very brittle, like silk, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and that's what gives it that lovely soft, calming light | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
that the gas lamps give and that's what the people of London love. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
25 years Gary's been doing this. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
He's become a bit of an expert, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
so the pressure's on for him not to damage any of the mantles, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
and certainly not to damage this globe, which is thousands of pounds. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Beautifully executed. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
He may have played a fascinating role in lighting up London, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
but in the office, Ryan has discovered Charles passed away | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
aged just 48, leaving behind a large family. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
Lily's parents had had ten children together, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
one of whom had passed away prior to 1911 so, therefore, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
we have nine top lines, including Arthur's mum, Lily. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
With so many Woolcott siblings to research, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Ryan has to think strategically | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
if he wants to stay ahead of the competition. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
When were researching a big family tree, it's a mixed bag for us. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
There's going to be times | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
when we're not going to be contacting everybody | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
before the competition. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
They could be researching a different part of the family tree. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
But the flip side of that is there's an awful lot of research | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
for us to do in the office. The bigger the family tree, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
the less likely it is that we'll be able to contact everybody first. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
And the team soon hit another problem | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
with the Woolcott side of the family. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
He marries as Woollcott with a double L. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
His first two born are Wollcott with a double L, but without a double O. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
Cool. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
We are very well aware that people do change their names. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
More unusual surnames, if you like, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
they have a tendency to deviate over time. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
This could be further back, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
if we're talking about the literacy of someone. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Maybe if they're filling in forms, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
there could be spelling discrepancies, variations. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Likewise, people may just choose to tweak the spelling of their names | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
and, for us, it does mean that we have a bit more work to do. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Another search, using the alternative spelling of Woolcott | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
has thrown up a curveball. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
So, we've got two more full-blood aunts. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Right, OK, so, yeah, we need to go back to those really. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
With even more research needed, now the team must divide and conquer. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
Senior researcher Camilla takes the line of Kenneth's aunt Florence. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
She was born in 1897 and I couldn't find anything for her past 1911, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:50 | |
so I looked on immigration records | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
and it looks like she potentially moved to Canada | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
in, I believe, the '20s. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
She's single and she's a cook. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
So, after that, we can't find much about her. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
It's yet another setback for the team, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
as tracing relatives in Canada could be a slow process. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
I'm not too sure if she ever married or had any children in Canada. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Obviously, it's important that we look into it and see what happened. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
And worse still, the team have now identified | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
that four of Lily's sisters died without having children. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
The worst-case scenario would be if we didn't find any heirs at all. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
We may spend a lot of time researching a case, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
possibly days or weeks, possibly research overseas, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
then if we find out, actually, the family has no living relatives, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
therefore the money is going to remain with the Crown. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
With options fast running out, Ryan focuses on Grace, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
who was the twin sister of Kenneth's mother, Lily. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
So, I know her date of birth because it will be the same as Lily's. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
We have that already. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
Grace married Albert W Sullivan in 1930 in Southwark. They had a son. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
It could be a major breakthrough as, if correct, Grace's son, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
Roy Sullivan, would be the team's first heir. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
That son, I think, is living out in Essex. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
I'm just about to give him a call and, hopefully, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
he'll be able to confirm if he's correct. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Ryan has found a number for what he's hoping | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
is the right Roy Sullivan. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
When you're really to a stage where you're starting to think | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
you are going to contact a beneficiary, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
it's quite a tense time for you as a case manager. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
The ideal scenario is that you ring someone, they're in, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
you can speak to them, you can verify the family. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
Ryan gets through to Roy's wife. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
I wondered if you might be help me cos I'm calling from a firm | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
of heir hunters and we're looking into the Woolcott family tree. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Was Roy's mother called Grace? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
No? It's a different family? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
Maybe his parents are a different Woolcott and Sullivan. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
It was the wrong Roy Sullivan and Ryan's hopes are dashed. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
The lady I spoke to had the same surname | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
as the chap we're looking for. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
It would have been good to talk to him because he's a cousin, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
was a cousin of the deceased, | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
so he would have, presumably, known more about the family. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
But across the office, Camilla has also been looking into Roy | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and she's made an important discovery. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
He's died. He passed away in 2011. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Having thought they were tantalisingly close | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
to their first heir, the team now have a whole new branch to research. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
We just need to find out whether or not he had any children now, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
to find out if there are any heirs. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
With the team facing setback after setback, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
will they be able to find any heirs before the competition? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
This one might potentially die out. I have no-one. Holly has no-one. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
Um, well, you know...have faith. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Hi, this is Hector Birchwood. I'm returning your call. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Sometimes, cases take on a surprising twist | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and reveal communities steeped in history. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
When heir hunting company Celtic Research took on the case | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
of Myra Kushia, they had no idea what they would unearth. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
The estate of Myra Kushia was advertised | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
by the Treasury solicitor in 2016. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
We started to work on it straightaway, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
once we knew that she had a property worth £90,000. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Hector quickly came across an obituary for Myra | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
and, crucially, it mentioned the name of a sister. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
So that, combined with the surname Kushia, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
made it an attractive case to work. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
Initially, the case seemed rather easy. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
We had a potential sibling and a very unusual name. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
Myra Kushia passed away on 13th January, 2016, aged 83, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:40 | |
in a hospice in Newcastle upon Tyne. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I met Myra | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
when I took her sister's funeral, Margaret, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
in mid-August, 2015. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
I got to know her perhaps more deeply than one would otherwise. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
Myra was quite a short and forthright lady. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:03 | |
Er, she was also good fun with a good sense of humour as well, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:10 | |
quite a wicked sense of humour. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
My understanding is that Myra had been | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
a delivery driver in her earlier years. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
She looked after the car, she was a practical woman. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
She could tinker with the car | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
and the car was her pride and joy as well. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
But Margaret's death took its toll. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
I think, to be honest, she was... | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
..preparing herself to be reunited, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
that life wasn't the same without her sister. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
Myra had never married and didn't have children, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
but she was liked among the local community, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
and her neighbour Yasmin enjoyed living next door. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
Last year, we picked some apples and we took some apples for Myra | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
and she was very happy and she said she will make apple pie. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
If the weather is nice, they used to stand next to their gate | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
and always say hi, hello, with people | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
and she was kind and, like, she had good heart. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:19 | |
She is also fondly remembered by Yasmin's son, Ashat. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
What I miss mostly is her kindness, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
like when she used to throw the ball over. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
She used to give us sweets sometimes | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
and she used to try to get it over the fence to give it to us. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Myra was also well-known for her green fingers. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Her garden is dry now. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
Whenever we look, I can from here, or from our back garden, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
it is so sad. It is always remind me Margaret and Myra. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
Who will look after that garden? Like, it's not nice like before. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
It is sad. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
In London, the search for Myra's heirs was under way. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
Do you know what family that was from? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
And Hector decided to pass the case on to colleague Robert Linford, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
who is based in Essex. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
I started looking in the births, marriages and deaths. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
I was obviously looking for Myra's birth, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
which would have been 1932, and I couldn't find it. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
With nothing showing up for Myra, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Robert tried searching for a birth for her sister Margaret, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
but that drew a blank too. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
Fortunately, I managed to locate a family friend | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
who explained to me what had happened. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
In actual fact, Margaret and Myra were not sisters, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
they were old friends. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
The team were right back to square one. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
But the family friend had revealed one more vital piece of information. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
Myra actually did make a will, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
but she still appeared on the Bona Vacantia list | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
of people who've died intestate. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
This is because the person she made the will to, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
her old friend Margaret, was someone who'd pre-deceased her. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
And no-one else was specified in the will, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
therefore she died technically intestate. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Myra's £90,000 estate was likely to have caught the attention | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
of rival heir hunting firms, so the pressure was on. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
But Robert was still faced with the major problem | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
that he couldn't find any record of Myra's birth. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Without this, the research would stall before it had even begun. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
It didn't appear to have been in the birth registers at all, um, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:45 | |
so I decided that it was time to look in the adoption registers | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
to see if she'd been adopted and, in fact, she was. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
This was the vital breakthrough they needed. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
Once somebody's adopted into a family, their birth family, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
their natural family no longer plays a role | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
in determining whether somebody has a right to inherit an estate. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
So, really, at that point, we only look at the adoptive family. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
Robert now needed to determine who Myra's adopted parents were. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Here we see the adoption certificate of Myra Kushia | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
and it confirms that Bag and Isabella are her adoptive parents. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:27 | |
Bag and Isabella Kushia adopted Myra on 4th March, 1938, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
when she was six years old. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
I would imagine that she'd always been called Myra | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
for as long as she could remember | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
and probably just the surname was changed. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
Myra's father, Bag, had been born in India, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
during the era of the British Empire. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
But, by the time of the adoption, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
he had settled in the north-east of England. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Bag is living in Maxwell Street, South Shields, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
and he is a marine donkeyman which, apparently, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:02 | |
is a kind of foreman in the merchant marine. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Bag had first arrived in Britain whilst working in the merchant navy. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
With booming trade between Britain and the Empire, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
a major shipping route emerged between India, the Yemen | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
and the north-east of England, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
with South Shields as a prime destination. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
This would have been one of the busiest ports in all of Britain | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
at the time because, essentially, coal came from Newcastle, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
the ships would have come here to bring ballast | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
and would have also taken away the coal to ship it all over the world. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
And South Shields was that port. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
They used to say that you could literally walk across this river | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
from ship to ship to ship and reach the other side. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Bag would have been one of hundreds of foreign sailors | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
to arrive in the UK during that time. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
And, crucially for the heir hunters, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
he had stayed in Britain and got married. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Bag is 24, Isabella was 25. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
It takes place in a register office, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
so there wasn't a religious aspect to it. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
And this marriage takes place in South Shields | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
and Bag is living in East Holborn, which is right by the River Tyne. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
Heir hunters often prioritise their research | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
based on how easy or difficult a name is to investigate. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
The more common the name, the harder it is. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
But when an uncommon name like Kushia is combined with a county | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
the size of India, it brings with it a whole set of challenges. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
As soon as we realised that Bag was from India, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
we knew it was going to be a very difficult case. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Unfortunately, this difficulty was compounded | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
because from the same source of information, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
we were told that he came from both Punjab and Kashmir. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
These are two totally different states in India. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
What makes this even worse | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
is that he didn't even know his exact date of birth. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
He simply stated his birth was circa 1903. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
With the paternal line looking untraceable, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Robert's only option was to examine the maternal tree | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
of Myra's mum, Isabella Scott, who came from a mining family. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
Her mother, Annie Reay, married William Scott, in Gateshead, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
in 1885, and had eight children. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
Three were eliminated, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
as they didn't appear to have had any children. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
But the remaining stems were about to cause Robert a major headache. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
Unfortunately, Scott is a fairly common surname. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
But I thought, at least there are four sisters | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
and maybe their names changed to something a bit easier to handle | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
once they're married. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
And lo and behold, Rose Scott, one of Isabella's sisters, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:42 | |
goes and marries a man called John Smith. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
So, I've gone from Scott to Smith and from bad to worse. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
Faced with two of the most common names in Britain, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
the seemingly simple case of Myra Kushia | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
was now looking harder than ever. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Would the team be able to find any heirs? | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
Each year in Britain, thousands of people | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
receive an unexpected knock on the door from the heir hunters. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
I found that amazing that I had that side of the family | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
that I didn't know existed. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
As well as signing over large sums of money, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
the heir hunters can reunite family members who have lost touch. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
-I'm so lucky. -Yeah. -Because I've met up with all of you. -Ah. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
Many cases have left the heir hunters scratching their heads | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
and remain unsolved. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Today, we've got details of two that have yet to be collected. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Have the heir hunters been looking for you all this time? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
First is the case of Charles Monk, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
who died in Islington on 13th April, 1988. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
He was a bachelor, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
which is why it's proving tricky to find any living heirs. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Does this name ring any bells with you? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
Do you know someone that could be related? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Next is the case of Annie Elizabeth Verrall, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
who passed away in Hailsham in East Sussex on 22nd January, 2005. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:13 | |
She was born in Australia and her maiden name was Clarke with an E. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
Both estates were advertised by the Treasury's Bona Vacantia list, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
but so far, no-one has been linked to either family. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
Can you help track down any long-lost ancestors? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
If so, a surprise windfall could be coming your way. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
Heir hunters Finders are racing against the clock | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
to find heirs on the £300,000 estate of Kenneth Mead. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
I'm trying to find his cousin. He might still be with us. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
With one branch of the family having gone to Canada, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
the team is desperately hoping | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
they'll find heirs in the UK before rival firms. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
She's born on the cusp of when they would have got married. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
But research into the brothers and sisters of Kenneth's parents | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
is proving very tricky. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
We're struggling to find births for most of the aunts and uncles. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
A couple of them passed away quite young. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
A couple do marry but never have children, by the looks of things. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Kenneth Mead passed away in 2016 at the age of 81. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
Over the years, neighbour Pauline had got to know Kenneth well. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
But it wasn't until she organised his funeral that she realised | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
just how active his social life had been. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
I tried to find out about people who might have known him. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
He played bowls, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
so he always would go out looking very smart in his bowls blazer. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
And, also, he did dancing. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Loads of people came to the funeral that we were really surprised about, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
so it was really nice. He had a nice send-off. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
One of Kenneth's biggest passions was ballroom dancing | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
and Wendy and Kay got to know him at their local club. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
We sat down the other end of the hall | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
because they already had their group of people at the top end. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
And Ken would come the whole length of the hall to dance with us. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
And it was a long hall! | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
He just used to like the company, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
-to be out with everybody. -Always looking smart, wasn't he? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
-Always had his white shirt on. -Yeah. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
It was a bit of a shock, wasn't it? | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
-Oh, dear. -He was always smiling, wasn't he? -He was, yeah. -Yeah. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
Did you find births for them | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
to confirm they're definitely half-blood? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
In the office, case manager Ryan is still on the hunt | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
for relatives of Kenneth's mother's twin, Grace, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
and he thinks he may have another lead. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
We know she married Albert Sullivan and previously, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
we thought we'd found her son, Roy. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
The team had discovered Roy had also passed away, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
but now they believe he had children who may be alive. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
When we've gone to Roy's eldest daughter, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
she married a couple of times, so it's a bit fiddly to track her down. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
But I think we've got a phone number and address for her. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
So, fingers crossed, we're the first people to contact her. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
It's a crucial call, as she could be the team's first heir. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
But she's not answering. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
We have another surname on this line of the family of Sullivan | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
and we're hoping this may have been your maiden name. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
If it is, or even if it isn't, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
if you could kindly give us a call back. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
Thank you very much. Bye-bye. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
With no-one answering the phone, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Ryan decides it's time to mobilise the troops. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Dee, could I have a visit for SE2? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
I'll do you copies of these so you can explain to the rep | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
-how they're linked. -No worries. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
The company has an army of travelling reps | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
based all over the UK | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
and they're on standby to make visits to potential heirs, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
something Ryan believes can be crucial. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
We want to speak to people as early as possible | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
to confirm their identity, to verify the family tree, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
to find any other family members we might have missed from the research | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
so, for us, it's key, at least in the initial stages. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
But we're just trying to do everything we can | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
to get the best results in the quickest time possible. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
Today, Ryan has deployed his colleague, Peter George. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
I understand it is a competitive case | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
and there are other companies working on it, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
so we want to try and be the first, if we can. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
The lady we're going to see is a maternal cousin once removed. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:35 | |
This is a cold call, so she has no idea we're coming. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
Peter hopes the heir will be in and he can sign her up there and then. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
HE KNOCKS ON DOOR | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
But no-one is home and it's not looking good. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Not having a lot of joy at the moment. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
The beneficiary isn't in and the near neighbours aren't in either, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
so I'm just going to go and try some other doors. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Local knowledge is an heir hunter's best tool | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
and Peter eventually finds a neighbour to speak to. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
Does she work locally, do you know? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
-Yeah. -Any idea what time she might be back? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
It looks like it's been a wasted visit. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
I've just left a pack through the beneficiary's door | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
and now I'm off to Dartford | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
to see another beneficiary in the same case. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
And as Peter arrives at the address of another heir... | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
It's a block of flats, four flats. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
No answer from any of them, so I can't get access, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
so I'll have to put a pack through the main communal letterbox. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
It's a bit disheartening. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Hopefully, he'll contact the office when he gets the pack. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
It's another dead end. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
In the office, the team is starting to make headway | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
on the maternal side. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
This is the stem of Jane Judith Woolcott. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
She passed away in 1939, but she managed to have three kids before - | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
-four kids, sorry - before she passed away. -OK. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
-So far, these two are looking quite big. -OK. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
-So, I'm going to have a look at those two. -Have a look at these. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
It's not long before Peter is despatched once again. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
They've identified another beneficiary | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
who lives, well, not that far away. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
But they've got two different addresses for him, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
so they're not sure which one he's at. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
So, I'm going to go to the one that's in Leigh. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Will it be third time lucky for Peter? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
Well, that a wrong address. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
He hasn't lived there at least since May, 2015. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
But she does get correspondence for him at that address, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
but he hasn't lived there for 18 months, 2 years nearly. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
So, not a good day, unfortunately. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
A few days later, and the search for Kenneth's heirs is still ongoing. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
But there have been some unwelcome developments. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
It appears a rival firm has beaten them to heirs | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
on the paternal side of the family. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
Whenever we make a call | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
and we realise we're behind another company, it's never great. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
It's a bit demoralising. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
You have to pick yourself up and move on. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
But it's always nice for us if we can be that first call. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
On the maternal side of the tree, though, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
things are looking far more promising. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
Ryan and the team have made good progress | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
on the stem of Kenneth's aunt Jane. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
So, in fact, most of the beneficiaries | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
on the maternal side of the family | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
actually stem down from Jane Judith Reeves. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
She was obviously born a Woolcott. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
Jane had four children in total, all of whom have passed away. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:45 | |
But out of those four cousins, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
we have two, four, six, seven... seven beneficiaries. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
We've had three signed agreements | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
back from these beneficiaries so far. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
It's great news and means the team have their first heirs | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
but today, they're hoping to add to their tally. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
I think we go right here. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Travelling rep Stuart has been sent to see two more possible heirs. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
They're ready and we'll just turn up at the door and give them a knock. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
But will Stuart's visit be a success? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
-Morning. -Good morning. -I'm Stuart from Finders. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
Ron and sister Jacqueline are Kenneth's first cousins once removed | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
and have been expecting Stuart's visit. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
The office have been phoning you, I suppose, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
-and you know all about this, I would imagine. -I spoke to Ryan, yeah. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
You spoke to Ryan - great. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
And it's a tall order, but do you know the deceased person? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
-We did meet him, yeah. -Oh, good. -Yeah, when I was younger. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
What I did, is Ryan kindly sent me a family tree. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:47 | |
You'll get a posh one in the end. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
This is one I've just stuck together for you to have a look at now. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
-I think it's this end that might be... -That's us, yeah. -Yeah. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
-The papers, I believe they've sent you, by the look of it? -Yeah. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
That's great. Oh, you've already signed. Brilliant. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Nothing for me to do, just have a cup of coffee. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
Yes, it's been a very successful trip. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Everything went very well | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
and they've helped us no end with this case, which is good, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
so it was well worth the trip down here. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
For the heir hunters, it's been tough, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
but ultimately, a worthwhile case. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
And in total, they've managed to sign up four of Kenneth's heirs, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
each of whom will be due a share of Kenneth's sizeable estate. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
But for Ron and Jacqueline, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
the real value is being able to find out more about the family history. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
Just mind-blowing, really, so I want to try and find out some more | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
about...all these people that, really, I didn't have a clue. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:50 | |
I didn't have a clue about them. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Heir hunting firm Celtic Research was on the hunt | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
for an heir of Myra Kushia. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
So, that ties in, at least, with him, because he's a cousin of his. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
So far, the team had established that Myra was adopted in 1938 | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
by Bag Kushia and Isabella Scott. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
So, my task was to trace | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
the brothers and sisters of Bag Kushia and Isabella Scott. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:23 | |
Researching Bag's family tree was proving virtually impossible. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
We really didn't know where to go. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
We had to then focus on the maternal side because it was not possible | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
for us to determine which part of India Bag actually came from. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
Myra's mother, Isabella, was the daughter of William Scott | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
and Annie Reay, who had eight children. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
With a £90,000 estate at stake, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
the team needed to work fast to trace maternal cousins, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
but were stopped in their tracks | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
when they reached Myra's aunt, Rose Scott, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
who married a John Smith. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
We initially thought the case was going to be very simple, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
but when you're dealing with names like Scott or Smith, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
you're dealing with hundreds of possible permutations. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
Each one has to be then followed diligently, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
methodically and with great determination, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
in order to be able to find the ones that are right. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
So, we had to just be patient and follow each line through | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
until we got to the right families. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
But finally, they struck gold, when they spotted some unusual surnames. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:24 | |
I found that Rose had two daughters who actually married Yemeni sailors. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:30 | |
These daughters were Annie and Elizabeth | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
and they married Yemeni sailors who were in the merchant navy, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
sailing all over the world. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
Two of them put down roots here and married English wives. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
It's believed that between the late 1890s and 1930, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
up to 4,000 people from Yemen were living in South Shields. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
These people represented the first significant Muslim communities | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
to settle in Britain. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
Where we're standing right now is the Customs House | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
and Mill Dam area of South Shields. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
This is where the Yemeni sailors would have most likely come | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
on ships from Aden | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
because, essentially, boats that were running on coal | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
were not able to reach India without docking in Aden. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:21 | |
The captains of these ships would essentially hire the Yemeni men | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
because they were great workers. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
They would also be able to withstand intolerable heat, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
working in the coal furnaces of these ships | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
and being stokers or firemen. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Once the Yemeni sailors had finished on a ship, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
they would have stayed in the town's boarding houses, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
waiting to hear about their next assignment. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
The Yemeni men, when they came on shore, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
they were actually part of the community. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
And some of the men that had been on the ships settled | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
and they could settle because, actually, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
they were British subjects. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
So, some of them set up boarding houses | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
to cater for the other Yemeni sailors, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
some of them opened up cafes, restaurants, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
grocery stores, and the community flourished. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
The first known and recorded instance | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
of a Yemeni person in South Shields | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
is in the South Shields Gazette, and we find that in 1890. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
However, it's quite possible that they were here earlier. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
It's thought that many of the Yemeni sailors were bachelors | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
or had to leave loved ones behind. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
In the first waves of migration, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Yemeni men probably were single men at the beginning of their careers, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:39 | |
coming onto the shops, or, indeed, if they did have families, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
they would have left them in Aden. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Partially the reason for that | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
was the Yemeni government didn't allow the wives to leave. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
The reason for that is they wanted to imagine | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
that the sailors would bring that money back home to Yemen. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
So, the earlier waves of migration, from 1890 up until the 1950s, | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
the men actually had a lot of intermarriage | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
because, in one sense, it was so hard to travel. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
So, while they were in boarding houses in South Shields, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
the men really integrated. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:12 | |
There's definitely a sense | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
that these dashing, dark, Middle Eastern men | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
would have been really, um, a catch. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
And there's some accounts written in the Gazette | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
about how these women were defending their intermarriages, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
saying these men are good, they don't drink, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
they don't beat their wives, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
they come home and give them their salaries | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
and that they were really honoured | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
to have these kind of ideal husbands. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
But their integration into the local community wasn't always smooth. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
With jobs scarce after the First World War, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
the National Union of Seamen started to become hostile | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
to the Yemeni sailors. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
It was a time of economic depression | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
and the Yemeni had actually already been there since the 1890s. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
In 1919, an amended Aliens Restriction Act was introduced, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
which restricted the employment rights of foreign workers. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
It had an especially big impact on foreign sailors | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
and in the Mill Dam area of South Shields, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
riots broke out between the Yemeni seamen and their white counterparts. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
Essentially, the riots was jostling, it was fights, it was bloody. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
There were police with truncheons. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
After the 1950s, the ships were no longer running on coal, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
so required less workforce. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Leyla Al-Sayadi's great-grandfather was one of the men | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
who migrated to South Shields | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
and was the chairman of the local mosque. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
The Yemeni community have done a lot for South Shields. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
They've intermarried, they've given themselves, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
they've given their lives, they've given their children. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
Some of them wanted to go back to Yemen but never did | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
and I think that's to South Shields's gain. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
But, on the other hand, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
I think that South Shields gave a lot to the Yemenis as well. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
People received the Yemenis largely very well | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
and the reason they were such a successful community | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
is because of their ability to make friends, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
to integrate, to connect to other people. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
And Yemenis are the type of people who can just adapt to anything. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
Along with Leyla's grandfather, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
two other Yemenis made South Shields their home | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
and married two sisters, who were Myra's cousins. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Annie Scott-Smith married Mohamed Nasir in 1928 | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
and they had a daughter called Ruth, but she passed away in 1941. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:39 | |
So, Robert was able to rule out any heirs there. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Next, he moved his attention to Rose's other daughter, Elizabeth. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
And Elizabeth Smith married Moosa Amar, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
who was a merchant seaman from the Yemen. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
And they had, ultimately, a grandson, Joseph Amar, | 0:39:53 | 0:40:00 | |
whom they adopted. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Joseph was born in 1953 in South Shields. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
I contacted Joseph and he told me | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
the interesting story of his own personal history. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
He, like Myra, had been adopted by his own grandparents. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:18 | |
This happened because the relationship | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
between Joseph's parents had fallen apart | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
and his grandparents stepped in. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
I seemed to be going round in circles. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
I started off with a deceased person who had been adopted | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
and now I had an heir who had been adopted. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
When Joseph received the phone call, he was completely shocked. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
They mentioned Myra Kushia | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
and I went, "Oh, my God, I forgot all about Myra." | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
Because I used to visit her with my grandma when I was a child. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
She was the cousin of my grandmother. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
I knew her well. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
We used to go regular, at least once a month. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
I was surprised, really, to tell you the truth. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
She just went out my mind completely till I got the phone call. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Joseph remembers Myra fondly. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
The images I have of Myra is quite a young, pretty girl, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
really beautiful, I would say. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
But she was very cheerful, very happy. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
I enjoyed going there. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
I looked forward to going. When my grandma used to say, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
"Do you want to come to Newcastle with us?" | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
and I'd say, "Yes, great." | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
It was as a young boy he found out he had more in common with Myra | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
than he first thought. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
Me grandmother told me one time on one of the visits, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
on the way back, on the journey back, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
she mentioned that Myra was adopted. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
I was very surprised because I thought they were her parents | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
and I found it very similar to my situation because I was adopted | 0:41:48 | 0:41:54 | |
and this gave me more connection to Myra, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
cos I would understand her feelings and what she was going through. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
It was really a surprise to me. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
I felt closer to her because of that. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
In the office, the team had finally found an heir | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
and were able to locate over 30 more. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
All in all, this was a very complex case. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
You opened one door and another door was there | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
and you had to open that | 0:42:26 | 0:42:27 | |
and the names were fairly difficult to deal with | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
and there were a lot of people on the tree. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
Sometimes I felt like I was going round in circles | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
but I'm glad I did it cos it's a very interesting case | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
with lots of interesting aspects to it. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
And it's Myra's kindness that will always be remembered. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
I think Myra, if she knew about the people | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
who are inheriting her estate, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
I think she would be pleased, I think she would be happy. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Joseph last saw Myra in 1979 at a family funeral. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
And as the years gone by...I've never really give it a thought, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
but it's sad that I could have kept in touch with her. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 |