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Heir Hunters spend their lives tracking down families of people who died without leaving a will.

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They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives who had no idea about their windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's show, a 17-year-old who disappeared from his family home.

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He just walked out.

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Leaving behind a trail of mystery.

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Not really noticeable. Just dressed plainly as if he wanted to fade into the background.

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And the story of a miner whose difficult life brought a windfall to his descendants.

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He died in '76, and 30-odd years later...

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you get a phone call to say you may inherit some money.

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It was quite a shock, to be honest.

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Plus a list of unclaimed estates worth over £125,000.

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Could you be due to inherit some money?

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Every year in Britain, over 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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When no family is found, their money goes to the government. That's when the heir hunting companies step in.

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Using birth, death and marriage records, they race each other to find any long-lost relatives

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entitled to inherit.

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But finding these relatives is easier said than done.

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Sometimes people they investigate are so private that parts of their life will always remain a mystery.

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This block of flats in North London was home to Alan Fisher for many years.

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He died in 2006 at the age of 75.

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His neighbour Nelly remembers him.

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He must have moved in about 13 years ago,

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but we didn't get to know him. He liked to be on his own,

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didn't like any noise, would go out in the evening when it was quiet.

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Perhaps he was happy like that,

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but he just seemed so quiet. That was his name, the Quiet Man.

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That's what we all called him.

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But it seems that even though Alan Fisher was retiring in life,

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he can't escape notice in death.

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His name is on the Bona Vacantia, the weekly list of unclaimed estates published by the government.

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It's 8am on a Thursday morning in Central London.

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At Fraser and Fraser, a large heir hunting firm, tensions are running high.

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Today the list of estates is released. Alan Fisher is one case the heir hunters are looking at.

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Right. I'll see if I can get Ewart to go to Enfield.

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At this stage, they know little about Alan Fisher.

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So senior case manager David Pacifico despatches Ewart Lindsay to North London

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to collect Alan's death certificate. He knows this will tell them where he was born.

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We need more information so it's the obvious thing.

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To assist them in tracking down the clues, they employ a crack team of travelling researchers.

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These mobile agents spend their Thursdays primed to chase down clues

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and get a head start in the race against rival companies.

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This formula works because, after 30 years in the business,

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Frasers have tracked down over 50,000 heirs with estates totalling more than £100 million.

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It's mid-morning and in Enfield Ewart's already proving his worth.

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-Hello, Ewart.

-I've got the death certificate.

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He was of Flat 15, Holly Lodge.

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They're hoping with Alan's address they'll be able to find out the value of the case.

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Frasers work on commission and their overheads are high. The case must cover their costs.

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If Alan owned his flat outright, it's a good indication of the estate's value,

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but the death certificate yields other information.

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He was born 16th May, 1931. Guess where.

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-Don't tell me - up north.

-Cumberland.

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That puts the cat among the pigeons.

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The first rule of heir hunting is that people rarely move far from where they were born.

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Alan lived in Enfield, but is likely to have family up north.

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They'll have to search in Cumberland but the question is why did Alan live so far away from home?

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And, more importantly, do his family even know he's died?

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For now, they need to find out the value of the case. Ewart will check at Alan's old address

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to see if he owned the property. Asking the neighbours is a good way of getting background information.

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Hello. Sorry to trouble you. I'm from Fraser and Fraser.

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I'm enquiring about your neighbour.

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And in the office David asks case manager Marcus to investigate another avenue.

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The death of Alan Fisher. We didn't know anything about him.

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-We've now got his address.

-Yeah.

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The researchers get on to checking the property registers.

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If Alan Fisher owned his flat, it will be listed.

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But it takes time. In Enfield, Ewart has already found out a wealth of information.

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I've just spoken to a lady at number 18. She moved in to the property around 1981.

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And he was already here. He's probably been here for a number of years.

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She doesn't think he was ever married, no children. And it's a council property.

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It doesn't look like Alan owned his property. Bad news for Marcus.

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It doesn't look very good, actually. It appears to be a council flat.

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I think, really, we'll have a look to see if the deceased had any close kin.

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We'll talk to them and it might be something we can resolve quickly.

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If we do and it's still worth a modest amount, we'll sign people up.

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There is a glimmer of hope, however.

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If Marcus can trace any siblings for Alan Fisher, they might know if he had assets.

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The first step to finding out is to find Alan's family.

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The team put together his family tree. They can trace the growth and the decline of the tree

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and see who is in line to inherit.

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The good news is that they already have one vital piece of the puzzle.

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From the death we've been able to identify birth and he was born in Cockermouth, in the northwest.

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We've also identified the parents' marriage. The father is brilliant. His name is Younghusband Fisher.

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Rather superb. He was one of about nine or so children.

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The name Younghusband is solid gold as it is so unusual.

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It's a real boost to the investigation.

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He married Alan's mother Mary in 1911 and they had nine children.

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Alan was the youngest of these, so Marcus may have his work cut out finding any siblings alive.

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So the researchers are on the hunt for death records for Alan's siblings,

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but it's highly likely another firm will be on the same track. Marcus needs to work fast.

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Luckily, he's had an inspired thought.

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He's going through the list of probates to see if any are listed for Alan's brothers and sisters.

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This could really shortcut the hunt. There's a chance Alan may have had an inheritance in the past.

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If he has, that could mean the case IS worth pursuing.

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It seems Marcus made the right call.

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We just got the probate for John Octavious Fisher, the brother of the deceased.

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He died intestate.

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John Fisher died in 2006. He left no will.

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As he had no children, his siblings are heirs.

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That means Alan was due a share of his brother's cash, but they need to confirm how much.

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Now they have two things to speak to the family about -

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who Alan Fisher's heirs might be and how much he inherited from John.

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Thank goodness for the probate. It lists a key piece of information.

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The two people mentioned are Charles William Morland and Annie Mary Hails Morland.

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I've just been told that the sister of the deceased was an Annie M Fisher.

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We've got a marriage of an Annie M Fisher to Morland. So this is definitely right.

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This is a breakthrough.

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Because they have a name and address for Alan's sister, Annie Morland,

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Marcus is quick to find her number,

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but something's concerning him.

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She's in her late 80s.

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The problem with that is that we don't normally immediately contact people of that age.

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We try to contact their children. I'll just be extremely gentle with her and see how it goes.

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Another worry is that he might be the one to break the news of her brother's death.

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Mrs Morland? I'm ringing from a company called Fraser and Fraser.

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We're probate researchers. Yes, it concerns the Fisher family.

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I'm rather hoping that you would be the daughter of the late Younghusband Fisher.

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And you had quite a large number of brothers and sisters.

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I have to tell you...

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I'm afraid to say it is your brother Alan who has actually died.

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-We were trying to find his next of kin.

-Often the heir hunters won't reveal who's died,

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but as Annie is close kin, Marcus bends the rules.

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Thank you so much for your time. Hopefully we'll speak again. Bye.

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The conversation has provided Marcus with some intriguing information.

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Alan apparently left the family home when he was 17. Nobody ever heard from him from that day to this.

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This is the first that she knows about Alan having recently died.

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She had no contact with him for years.

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The interesting thing for us is his brother John Octavious Fisher who died a couple of years ago,

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Alan would have been entitled to share in his estate

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and his share was worth about £40,000.

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So...

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this estate has gone from being worth a little bit more than five grand, but not very much more,

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to plus 40 grand on top of that.

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The good news is that the £40,000 sitting dormant in a bank account

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is one step closer to finding its rightful owners, but knowing they hadn't heard from Alan for 55 years

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leaves a big question mark over the case.

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The problem with this estate, although we now know the full extent of the family,

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because the family came from the northwest and the deceased ended up living down in London,

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it may well be that between the northwest and London he married once, twice, three times,

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had any number of children who would have a prior claim over other members of the family.

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Coming up: with the news that Alan Fisher left at least £40,000,

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-the race is on to sign his heirs.

-Mr Barlow?

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-But the question is: will they find them?

-I'm trying to trace a lady called Janet

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who would have been Fisher? Is that yourself? ..It isn't.

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Thank you for your time. So sorry to trouble you, anyway.

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Many cases the heir hunters tackle involve people with large estates who have lost contact with family.

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Finding someone's relatives can be a daunting task. Perhaps you could be due an inheritance?

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Dorothea Alice Williams lived in Telford, Shropshire.

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She was 88 years old when she passed away and left £27,000.

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Are you related to Dorothea? If so, you could be due her estate.

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Mini-Francis Marsh died in Clapton, London, in March 2004.

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She was 86 years old and left an estate of £20,000.

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Are you related to Mini? Could her cash belong to you?

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Arthur Ronald Sergant Slade passed away in Birmingham at the age of 77.

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He left £20,000.

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If you have any information to help solve these unclaimed cases, then take a look at our website:

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The heir hunters handles thousands of cases like Alan Fisher's every year,

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about people who die having lost touch with their families.

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Occasionally they come across a case that is about the bigger picture,

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where the very act of claiming the inheritance is a statement for the greater good.

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When case manager Bob Smith first encountered the file of Oswald Bowley, seen here at a wedding,

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he knew it would be different.

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This is an unusual situation.

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Normally we deal with people's estate, which is their house or money in the bank.

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-In this case it was compensation due to Oswald.

-Oswald was a miner who died in 1976 aged 64,

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but it wasn't until several decades later that Frasers took on the case.

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Oswald was due compensation for health problems caused by his occupation,

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-but it could only be paid out to his heirs.

-I'm led to believe the compensation is £6,000 or £7,000.

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It's not life-changing amounts, however, it is recognition of Oswald and the suffering he endured.

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Worksop, Nottinghamshire, 19 miles southeast of Sheffield, once the heart of coal mining country.

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The mines dominated this area for over 100 years.

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At one point, tens of thousands of men worked these pits.

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Oswald was a miner for many years. Gordon Flint remembers his fondly.

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I'm Oswald's step-grandson, but to me he was the only grandfather I knew,

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so he was always Granddad Mick to me. Everyone called him Mick.

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No idea where it comes from.

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I have very fond memories of him spending time with me as a child.

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Oswald had married Gordon's grandmother Ida in 1950.

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They were both on their second marriages. They set up home in this house in Worksop.

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Gordon remembers that Oswald was always larger than life.

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He got me and himself into trouble, bought me pets when I don't think my parents were expecting them.

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And quite a bit of a character. Spent quite a bit of time in the pub, I seem to recall,

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from comments by my grandmother.

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But a very generous and kind person.

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A group of Oswald's drinking buddies from the colliery remember him fondly.

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He was a good bloke to talk to, have a chat to.

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"What are you doing, George?" That's all I can remember. I don't remember a lot.

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I was a manager and I remember the name Bowley.

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I think he had a nickname Ozzy.

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As far as I can recollect, his job was as a packer.

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Ron Booth, an ex-miner and local historian knows just what Oswald's day would have been like.

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His job would be to come on shift after the coal was stripped off.

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He'd build these packs, built with bits of stone that fell down, in-between,

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coal, and he'd build this pack up to the roof with all the old rubbish and that stopped subsidence.

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Coal mining was hard and dangerous work.

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Ron remembers all too well what life was like underground.

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You'd walk down 3-4 miles to the coalface.

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You'd scramble through, two or three times a day, on your knees.

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What happened down the pit was you stripped off to the waist. You just had shorts on.

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And your pit boots. It was hot, really hot.

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I mean, it were a good job for slimming.

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They shovelled all that coal, which was probably 12 tons.

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It would be a tough life, sweating,

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breathing dust, noise, clank, clank.

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You can't believe the noise you had. It was terrible.

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But it was the coal dust that created the biggest problem.

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You couldn't see. Especially when you were jibbing in and put your hand here.

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You couldn't see your hand.

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Rudimentary safety equipment was provided,

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but its use was never enforced.

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Remember them dust masks?

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Oh, yeah. What did you call them? One lad used to put these masks on in the pit bottom.

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We laughed at him, but did he know something that we didn't?

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-I wish now I'd put mine on.

-Yes!

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Miners' health now, most of them have got breathing problems.

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A lot of them are terrible. They can hardly walk.

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They were on their knees 6 or 7 hours a day.

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30 years down the pit on your knees.

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And white finger with holding pneumatic drills

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and shaking your wrists. Day after day after day.

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It shattered the nerves in the wrist.

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Oswald became a victim of some of these hazards and it changed his life dramatically.

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I do remember him not being able to walk very fast. His breathing was shocking.

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He could hardly breathe at times and this got worse and worse as he got older.

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He became quite disabled, couldn't walk very far.

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He used to come up to my parents' on a moped.

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That's the lasting memories of him, coming into the house with his old-fashioned helmet on.

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After a lifetime of breathing coal dust, the soft tissue in Oswald's lungs was dying,

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making it impossible for him to breathe.

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Finally, in 1976, Oswald passed away.

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His death certificate lists emphysema as one of the causes, known to miners as black lung.

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If Oswald had the chest disease, I'm not surprised.

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You imagine coal cutters cutting the coal, the dust,

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loading it onto conveyor belts, one to another, until it gets to the loading point.

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All that dust was all over the place and most of the old lads had this chest disease

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and there was no compensation.

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In 1998, 22 years after Oswald's death,

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it was recognised that British Coal should have provided better safety for their workers.

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A compensation deal was struck and backdated to 1954.

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Even though it was nearly 20 years after Oswald's death, he qualified.

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It took another decade before Fraser and Fraser became involved.

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Bob Smith worked the case.

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'We were contacted by the solicitors administrating Oswald's estate.'

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There is compensation due to him, but that cannot be paid to his estate

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unless we find a family member to administer the estate and benefit from it.

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When Bob and his team began the research, they found it was fairly straightforward to track his heirs.

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We established that Oswald had been married twice with no children from either marriage.

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We therefore found Oswald's parents and also established that Oswald had five brothers and sisters.

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Four of those, unfortunately, died as small children, but one sister had survived.

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She married and had two children,

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so we were able in this case to find people that could benefit from Oswald's estate and his compensation.

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It seems that Oswald's sister Ellen had two children, James and Alan.

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James had three children and they are all heirs to Oswald's estate.

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Susan Greenwood is his great-niece, a pub landlady in Reigate.

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She was amazed when she heard she would have a share of Oswald's £6,000 compensation.

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It's very surprising that it's come to light now.

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Obviously, he died in '76 and 30-odd years later...

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you get a phone call to say you may inherit some money,

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so it was out the blue and it was quite a shock, to be honest.

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It's just a shame that he didn't get it for himself because it would have helped him more.

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For mining expert Ron Booth, the compensation was a matter of principle.

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I think they're worth every penny they've got for it.

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People say, "Oh, miners," this, that and the other.

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If you've never worked down a mine, you don't know what you're talking about. It's hard work.

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People say it's mechanised. It's still the same dangerous job.

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Because Oswald's step-grandson Gordon wasn't a blood relative, he is not in line to inherit.

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He thinks it's a shame Oswald didn't get the money in his lifetime.

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He never earned a lot of money and what he did have, he tended to spend fairly easily.

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A very generous man. And certainly in his latter years, he was very short of money.

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My parents helped him out a lot and looked after him.

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It would've been nice for him to have it, I would have thought.

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It's Day 2 and travelling Heir Hunter Ewart Lindsay is on the quest

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to find the heirs to the estate of Alan Fisher.

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The family knows nothing about him. He walked out when he was 17 and didn't return.

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Apparently, he's got about £40,000 coming to him from his brother's estate.

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We've got to tie up the loose ends on this case.

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You know, in terms of trying to find out about his marital status.

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Alan lived in this block of flats for more than a decade,

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but even his neighbour Nellie didn't know much about him.

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I don't think he had anybody else. He never had any visitors. Very small. He wasn't big.

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Not really noticeable. Just dressed plainly and...

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Just as if he wanted to fade in the background.

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Now he's at the forefront of the Heir Hunter investigation.

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Yesterday, they found out that Alan had eight siblings, but something is bothering Case Manager Marcus.

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The worrying thing about it is because the deceased was born in Cockermouth, then died in Enfield,

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you've got anywhere in between he could have married and the worry is that he may have married.

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We've not found anybody that knew if he had been married or not.

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There's a possibility that there is somebody else that's entitled before the heirs that we've got.

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If Alan Fisher did marry and have children, they would be the first to inherit Alan's cash.

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And with an estate of £40,000 in the balance, it is likely that rivals will be hot on their heels.

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The race is on.

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In order to ensure they have all the heirs,

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Marcus needs to find every marriage listed for an Alan Fisher in the UK

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and then eliminate them one by one.

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And the name Alan Fisher is not exactly unusual.

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His father was Younghusband Fisher - what a brilliant name!

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He was plain Alan Fisher, so it makes it a bit more difficult.

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We've got a long list of marriages for Alan Fisher all over the UK. He could have stopped off anywhere.

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220 miles north of London in Bolton, another mobile agent Dave Mansell has been pulled on to the case.

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As he's up north, he'll be the one paying a visit to Stella, Alan Fisher's niece.

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He's just called her to confirm the appointment and he's had some marvellous news.

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He's keen to tell Marcus.

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Really? Good stuff. OK, mate. Speak to you later. Bye.

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Superb. That was Dave Mansell.

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He's made contact with a niece of the deceased.

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He's gonna see her at 12 o'clock.

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She'll pick her sister up at the same time and they'll be seen together.

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It looks like they have six heirs.

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Of the nine Fisher siblings, only two are still alive - Annie Morland and Sarah Fisher.

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Another sister, Barbara, who has passed away, has three children - Stanley, Barbara and Stella.

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Alan was their uncle, but there's more to find.

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Another heir they know of is Alan's niece Madeleine, Wilson Fisher's daughter, but they can't trace her.

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They hope a rival firm hasn't already contacted her.

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Dave Mansell is driving the 100 miles from Bolton to Cockermouth.

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He's off to see Alan's nieces Stella and Barbara.

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He gives Stella a call.

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I'm on my way. It'll probably be 12.30 before I get there. We've had a delay on the motorway.

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-'He's gone for my Auntie Sally an' all.'

-Brilliant. I'll see you in a while.

-'Bye.'

-Bye.

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Her husband set off to go and get her sister.

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And their auntie who is 95. So there'll be three people to speak to when we get to the house.

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It's a coup to see so many heirs all at once. He will see Barbara, Stella and her husband James...

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-Mr Barlow?

-Yes.

-David Mansell from Fraser & Fraser. I spoke to your wife earlier.

-Yes, come in.

-Thank you.

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And he is also seeing Sarah, Alan's 95-year-old sister who is a little camera-shy.

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-Do you know when your father was born, his date of birth?

-5th of March.

-5th of March?

-Yeah.

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He would've been 100 this year.

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-He would've been 100 this year?

-Yeah, he'd be 100 in March.

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-So that was 1908?

-Aye.

-Yeah.

-Cor!

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-How many times have you been married?

-Just the once.

-What do you mean, "How many?!"

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Whilst Dave does the paperwork, Stella reflects on his visit.

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Oh, I was surprised. It isn't every day somebody comes and tells you you'll get left some money.

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Just really surprised, yeah.

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I hadn't seen him since I was a lass. I didn't know if he was still alive or not

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because nobody had heard from him.

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Thankfully, now the family knows what happened to Alan.

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It's just after lunch and Marcus is on tenterhooks.

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Did Dave get there before any rival companies and did they sign to Frasers?

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I'm just about to phone Dave now and see what he's got.

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It's been long enough. How long has he been missing?

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About two and a half hours, it seems!

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-'Hello, mate, it's me.'

-Hiya, Marcus.

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-How are you doing?

-We've signed up four heirs.

-You've signed four?

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Yeah, three generations.

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-One of the girls. You know Madeleine and Linda? Linda's deceased.

-Right.

-We signed Madeleine as well.

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Dave's done a great job. That's two generations of Fishers in one sitting -

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Alan's sister Sarah and three nieces, Stella, Barbara and Madeleine.

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But the same old thought is nagging at Marcus.

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They are aware that they might not be entitled to anything if we find out he was married with kids?

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Yeah, I explained it all to them. They've not seen him for over 55 years.

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'Right. Could they remember the name of Joseph's daughter?'

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They thought it may be Janet.

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That's brilliant stuff, mate. Well done.

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So Dave beat the competition and Marcus can breathe a sigh of relief.

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So that's it. Good result.

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We still don't know if the deceased was married with kids, but a good result - four people in one hit!

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There is an added benefit to the Heir Hunters contacting the Fishers.

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They've been able to tell them where Alan was for the last 55 years.

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It's been nice for the survivors who are in their late 80s, early 90s respectively,

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it's resolved for them, before they die, before their life comes to an and,

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what happened to their baby brother.

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When you get a big family like that, the youngest one is always the one everyone feels protective about.

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But he just walked out. He didn't come back one day. Now they know.

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Signing four heirs is a masterstroke, but they're not out of the woods yet.

0:31:290:31:37

They need to press on and find more of Alan's family.

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From Dave's meeting, Marcus now has the name of another niece.

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We've got a possible name, John, for the daughter of Joseph and Evelyn - Janet.

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I'll go and check that.

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Alan's niece Janet is the daughter of Joseph Fisher and an only child.

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It seems Joseph left the family home in Cockermouth when he was young

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and didn't keep in contact with his family, so they couldn't provide any details for Janet.

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The Heir Hunters know she was born in Watford in 1942. There's a good chance she'll be married by now.

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By cross-referencing birth and marriage records with electoral rolls in the Watford area,

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they hope to find her quickly, but Janet and Fisher are common names, so they have several to choose from.

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I've got four phone numbers for people called Janet born in 1942 in the Watford area.

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I'm hoping that one of them is Janet Fisher or was Janet Fisher before she married.

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It's a shrewd short cut. By calling the Janets on the list,

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there's a good chance he'll find the right one.

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One down and no joy.

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Hello. Is that Mrs Jones?

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I'm so sorry to trouble you. My name is Marcus Herbert.

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I'm ringing from a company in London called Fraser & Fraser, we're probate researchers.

0:33:020:33:08

I'm trying to trace a lady called Janet who would have been born as Janet Fisher. Is that yourself?

0:33:080:33:15

It isn't. Thank you for your time. I'm so sorry to trouble you. Bye.

0:33:150:33:20

No. That's all I can do today on that.

0:33:200:33:24

Marcus knows he needs to find Janet before the competition, but he still feels confident.

0:33:240:33:31

I've had a rip-roaring day really.

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Um... Basically, we've found everybody just about that we've needed to find.

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Except for... The deceased had a brother called Joseph, who had a daughter Janet.

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We've identified her birth, she's still got to be found.

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The only thing we're still worried about is if the deceased married.

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Born up north, ended up in the south, could've married anywhere.

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It's late in the day and the team are thinking about heading home,

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but Marcus decides to give the search for Janet Fisher one last shot.

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We were looking at Janets born in 1942 in Watford.

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And there's a son with a date of birth living with her.

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I look the birth of the son up and it gives the mother's maiden name as Fisher. Janet is living in Watford.

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It's a great moment. Marcus's hard work has paid off. He phones travelling Heir Hunter Ewart.

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-Ewart, it's me. I've found Joseph and Evelyn Fisher's daughter Janet.

-Perfect. Perfect, yeah.

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Coming up - the Heir Hunters are pleased that they have the Fisher clan wrapped up. Or have they?

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We've got all of Alan Fishers' marriages to tackle today. I've kind of lost the will to live!

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The Heir Hunters' job is to fill in the gaps of people's lives,

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tracing long-lost family members in order to give them an inheritance.

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Perhaps you could be due a windfall.

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Baldrick James died in Leicester in 2004. He was 78 years old

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and left a cash sum of £19,000.

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John Jones passed away in Luton.

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He died in December 2004 at the age of 53,

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leaving a sum of £20,000.

0:35:260:35:29

Boris Bilacon passed away in Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

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He was 80 when he died, leaving a legacy of £20,000.

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It's Day 3 on the case of Alan Fisher,

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a shy, retiring man who had lived in this block of council flats in Enfield

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and left an estate of £40,000.

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After tracking down his relatives, the Heir Hunters have found that he left home 55 years ago aged 17

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and they have no idea what happened.

0:36:190:36:22

They have signed four heirs and are hoping to get to one more,

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but as they know so little about Alan's adult life, a huge question mark hangs over the investigation.

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If he was married with issue, there are others with a prior entitlement to benefit from his estate,

0:36:330:36:40

rather than the people that we have already found

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who are nephews and nieces and two siblings.

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In Watford, travelling Heir Hunter Ewart is enjoying a visit close to home for a change.

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I've got an appointment in Watford which is probably a bit less than two miles away from where I live

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to see a Mrs Hicks

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and she will be a niece of the deceased.

0:37:060:37:10

As Ewart arrives to see Alan's niece Janet Hicks,

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Marcus wrestles with a long list of possible Fisher marriages.

0:37:140:37:18

We've got all of Alan Fishers' marriages to tackle today and I've kind of lost the will to live!

0:37:180:37:25

We've eliminated about five out of about 30 so far.

0:37:250:37:30

And we've still got about another 20-year search to do.

0:37:300:37:34

Back in Watford, the good news is Janet has signed to Frasers,

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but when it comes to the Fisher family, she wasn't much help.

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Her father Joseph had brothers and sisters and she didn't know much about them whatsoever.

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You could see the reason why. Her father left Cockermouth in about 1952

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and came down to live in Watford.

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She hadn't been in contact with her aunts and uncles for over 50 years, so it's understandable.

0:38:010:38:08

Nevertheless, she signed, so, you know, it's good for me.

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It's good for my figures.

0:38:130:38:16

Ewart phones in to the office.

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-Good news, Marcus.

-She signed?

-Yeah, Mrs Hicks signed.

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Quite a nice lady. I'm afraid she didn't know much about the family.

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She was the one that I think her father was, along with the deceased,

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one of the ones that they didn't know where he was for a few years.

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The Fisher clan is certainly large, but obviously not that close.

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And it's a tragic coincidence that Winchmore Hill where Alan lived

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and Joseph's home in Watford are less than 20 miles apart.

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But it seems the brothers never knew they lived so close.

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With Janet's signature on the contract, the Heir Hunters now have five heirs confirmed -

0:38:580:39:05

Alan's sister Sarah and four of his nieces, Barbara, Stella, Madeleine and Janet.

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But they will have nothing to claim if the office find that Alan Fisher married and had children.

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And it seems their fears are about to be realised.

0:39:170:39:21

Yeah, we got a marriage in Enfield.

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Yes, in 1968.

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The office may have found the marriage of the deceased,

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a possible marriage when he was about 37.

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So that's good. So we'll head to Enfield and try and obtain that marriage.

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Marriage certificates list couples' parents and although Fisher is a common name,

0:39:420:39:49

Ewart is confident the Alan Fisher they're looking for will stand out.

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You know, his father has got a very, very good name. Fantastic name.

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And it's Younghusband.

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One word. It's not two separate words.

0:40:020:40:06

It's Younghusband Fisher.

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And on this particular marriage I'm picking up in Enfield,

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if the father was Younghusband, it's the correct marriage.

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And then the guys could go ahead and look for children,

0:40:200:40:26

look for issue of that marriage.

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It's not impossible. He was 37 years of age when he got married,

0:40:280:40:33

when this particular Alan Fisher got married.

0:40:330:40:37

It's a nail-biting moment. The Heir Hunters have invested three days of hard slog on this case.

0:40:370:40:44

This certificate could turn everything on its head.

0:40:440:40:48

Turn of a coin and it changes.

0:40:480:40:51

-But just as Ewart arrives at the Register Office...

-Almost at Enfield Register Office.

0:40:510:40:57

Gonna give Ewart a call and break the happy news to him.

0:40:570:41:02

Ewart, it's me. That Enfield marriage for Alan Fisher is wrong.

0:41:050:41:10

We've just found some bits and pieces which proved it's wrong.

0:41:100:41:15

That one's 16 years younger than ours, so forget all about that.

0:41:150:41:20

After all that, it was a false alarm and there's not much more Marcus can do on the Fisher case.

0:41:200:41:28

He has plenty to be pleased about with five heirs signed,

0:41:280:41:32

but Alan's marital status is still a mystery.

0:41:320:41:36

The niggling problem of the deceased's own marriage, yes or no, did he or didn't he?

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There you go.

0:41:420:41:44

The Heir Hunters can't process the claim until they have ensured they have found every heir.

0:41:440:41:51

A long period of time is unaccounted for in Alan's life, so did he marry?

0:41:510:41:56

Nellie thought he wasn't the type.

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He was just the sort of person who goes in the background, very quiet and...

0:41:580:42:04

And always smiled if you spoke to him.

0:42:040:42:08

But didn't really want to engage in conversation.

0:42:080:42:12

He seemed nervous of everybody.

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It's three months since the team began the investigation

0:42:150:42:20

into Alan Fisher and there's been a twist in the tale.

0:42:200:42:24

Brilliant case. The research went extremely well.

0:42:240:42:28

It was fairly straightforward. It wasn't too difficult to research.

0:42:280:42:33

It was nice that we found siblings of the deceased, interesting names.

0:42:330:42:38

But the family decided to go it alone.

0:42:380:42:41

As the heirs decided not to have Frasers' help to submit the claim,

0:42:410:42:46

Marcus will never know if Alan Fisher married and had children.

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But you win some, you lose some.

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