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Heir Hunters spend their lives tracking down families of people who've died without leaving a will. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
who had no idea they were in line for a windfall. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
On today's programme... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
a man who has lost contact with his brother gets some shocking news... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
The last time I saw him, about eight years and I'm the last one of the family. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:46 | |
And the story of a man who made a life in Britain, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
but for fifty years never revealed the true details of his past. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
Never did he mention family when we used to ask him and he'd say, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
"Well, my mother and father are dead and I've no brothers and sisters." | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
Plus the unclaimed estate sitting dormant at the Treasury - are you about to inherit a fortune? | 0:01:02 | 0:01:09 | |
It's incredible, but true. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
Every year two thirds of people in the UK die without leaving a will. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
With no will and no heirs, their entire estate will be absorbed into the Treasury as unclaimed funds. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:30 | |
In 2007 alone, a massive £18 million was left unspoken for. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:37 | |
Across the country, around 30 heir-hunting companies make it | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
their business to track down long-lost relatives, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
hoping to claw back some of the cash for the rightful heirs | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
-and at the same time, win themselves a commission. -Mr Galloway? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
-Yes. -David Hadley. -Hello. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
With offices across the UK and Europe, Fraser & Fraser are one of the established firms. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:59 | |
They've tackled estates ranging from £5,000-£500,000 | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
and have successfully claimed back more than £100 million for heirs... | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
often in the process, reuniting families that have lost touch. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
I'm Margaret. Don't be nervous. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Sometimes we are the link, we are the actual people who put | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
people back in touch with each other and that is just so rewarding. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
It's 8.15 am on Thursday at Frasers' Central London headquarters. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
It's the day the Treasury publish the list of unclaimed estates. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
Most of the team is already in the office. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
-This one there, she didn't know the deceased but confirmed it was sheltered housing. -So she did? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:51 | |
But didn't know the deceased. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
Partner, Neil Fraser, has been hard at work for several hours. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
He's been sifting through potential cases but he can't find any high value estates. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:02 | |
Generally we have a rule that we try not to work anything | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
under the £30,000 sort of barrier, that sort of mark... | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
which, if anyone owns a property, they'd certainly have above the value of £30,000. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:19 | |
Where we have the problem is trying to identify the cases in between the valued property cases | 0:03:19 | 0:03:25 | |
and down to the lower end of our sort of spectrum. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
The Heir Hunters work on a commission basis and an office | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
like Frasers' need a good size estate to cover their expenses. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Just check to see if there are any people with these initials, yeah? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
But when the team is unable to find anything with a high enough value, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
the next best option is to tackle something that will be fast to solve. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
What we're looking at here is a case of Kenneth Wren. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Now a quick search of our records and in doing a quick look-around for his birth, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
I've been able to find a birth in Romford and that's in 1929, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
and that ties up with four other births, so four other siblings. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:08 | |
So it looks like the Heir Hunters have already found brothers and sisters for the deceased. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:14 | |
Kenneth Wren was 79 when he passed away in Essex in 2008. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
He had lived in Romford all his life but died alone in Goodmayes Hospital | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
and although he lived in sheltered accommodation for nearly 16 years, none of his neighbours knew him. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
Nor was he well-known in the local community, but surely he must have had a past? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:41 | |
Case Manager, David Pacifico, has been trying to contact | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
the manager of Kenneth's flat to find out about his finances. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
We haven't been able to speak to anybody. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
It is sheltered accommodation. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:52 | |
We know very little about him at the moment. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
Value-wise, I'm not convinced it's got much value. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
To make it onto the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
the personal wealth of the deceased must be a minimum of £5,000. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
As Kenneth was living in a council-funded flat, it is unlikely that he had many savings, but | 0:05:08 | 0:05:14 | |
Neil thinks the virtue of this case is that it should be quick to work. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
Initially, it looks like we may get near kin, so that's why we're playing with this at the moment. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
Fingers crossed, we may find some indication that there's a bit more value than we think there is. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
From the birth records they have on file, the Heir Hunters have already traced four possible siblings. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:35 | |
Kenneth was born in 1929. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
They found three older brothers... | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Henry, Stanley and Clifford and a sister, Gladys, who was born in 1917. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:46 | |
So we've got a Stanley H and a Gladys EM. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Now they're the two best names that we've got so we've been able to made headway on those quite easily. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
From their birth certificates, the team can see that Kenneth's father is Alfred, and his mum is Rosetta, | 0:05:55 | 0:06:02 | |
also known as Rose, and they've traced a marriage to 1908. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
What's this name - Stickwood? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
Head Researcher, Gareth, knows that if the parents married in 1908, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
there is a good chance that the newly-weds will be listed on the 1911 Census. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Well, I've just found the census of, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
hopefully, Alfred and Rose Wren who are the parents of the deceased. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
The census is taken every ten years and provides a snapshot of each household in the country. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:34 | |
It includes details of age, marital status, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
number of children and type of work and the information is released to the public after 100 years. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:44 | |
But after pressure from amateur genealogists, the 1911 Census was made available online in 2009, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:52 | |
and it's providing Gareth with a very clear picture of the social status of the Wren family. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:58 | |
It's telling us that they've been married for about two years, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
so that ties in with what we expected to see. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
The father is 24, the mother is 22. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
He's a straw carter and they're living in a one-bedroom house, in 1911, so it's a start. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:14 | |
The young Wren family were living in Romford. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
The town today is a bustling urban environment but 100 years ago | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
it had a very different feel, as local historian, Brian Evans, explains. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:31 | |
Romford was a small town with that market which was on Wednesdays. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:37 | |
People came in from 20 miles around but all round the town was green, open fields. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:43 | |
As I say, if you were a straw carter in Romford, you'd be going out | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
to farms collecting straw and piling it on the cart. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
You'd deliver that from the farm to where the straw was needed. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Straw was used for all sorts of things. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
I mean, a lot of people just used straw for bedding, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
but it was a hard life because you had a very fixed position. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
You weren't flexible in society so you were a hay carter | 0:08:04 | 0:08:10 | |
and that fixed you really in your relationships with all other people. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
The wife would have to be so careful with the budget and they were brilliant, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
women were brilliant in holding the family together | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
and bringing up lots of children on a very small salary. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
You had to do little jobs. She had to do little things herself like perhaps taking in laundry. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
So given Alfred Wren's job, it is unlikely the family would have had much spare cash. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
It also looks like this family may have had a lot of mouths to feed. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Following the information from the census, Gareth is now looking at the marriage records. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:46 | |
Although they've identified five children, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
he is checking to see if they married and if there are any more. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
They've been born over a period of, well 1911 to 1925, so... | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Half the search I'm only looking for a couple and then as they increase, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
you get more and more names to look for at the same time. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
And the names just keep on coming. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
-Gwendolyn F. -No. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
What's your oldest child? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
Ivy H. We've got a Frederick W. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
They now have 13 children on the tree. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Neil knows that there's every possibility that these youngsters are Alfred and Rosetta's. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
The mother we know is meant to have been born around about 1889. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
The last birth is in 1931. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
It is perfectly possible in that time for a lady to have children | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
up to the age of 42 and indeed after the age of 42. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
So from the oldest, we have one in 1911, 1912, '15, '16, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
'17, '19, '20, '21, '25, the deceased in '29 and then the final one in '31. | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
So they're all at last nine months apart so again, perfectly possible all to be in the same family. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
They really need to speak to someone who might be able to verify the family tree. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:13 | |
Case Manager, David Pacifico, thinks he has the answer. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
We've got a possible brother of Kenneth Wren called Clifford Wren. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
If it's right, he's living in East London. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Born in 1931, he is the youngest of the family and is Kenneth's younger brother by two years. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:31 | |
It's a breakthrough. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
At 78, not only is he a living family member but he is also an heir. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
We've got no phone number, we can't phone him up or it is ex-directory. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
That leaves only one option. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
David decides it's time to get a mobile agent out to speak to him. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Hello, Dave Hadley. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Can you go over to East London? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
It's on the case of Wren. It looks like we've got an address for a brother. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
OK, I'm on my way, David. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Frasers employ a team of travelling Heir Hunters. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
These skilled researchers spend their days combing the country for information and speaking to heirs. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
It's a detective job, requiring oodles of patience and a large component of empathy. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:18 | |
Travelling Heir Hunter and Senior Researcher, Dave Hadley, is used to turning up unannounced. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
Most of my visits are cold calls. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
I mean the main thing really is just to put the person at ease and... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:37 | |
convince them that it's not a con, you know, that we're not trying to scam them. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
But there's an added poignancy to approaching close kin. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
Clifford Wren is just two years younger than his brother. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
It's been six months since Kenneth's death and there is no way of knowing when Clifford last spoke to him. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:54 | |
When you contact close kin, it's not nice. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
Sometimes these close kin cases shouldn't really be, what I consider, cases, you know. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
We've had children, we've had parents of the deceased, you know. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:08 | |
It's not nice when you have to... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
And I've had people break down in tears. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
It's obviously going to be a hard call to make, but it's vital the team speak to Clifford. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
Will this knock on the door open the lid on the Wren case... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
or will Clifford know as little about Kenneth as his brother's neighbours? | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
The estates the Heir Hunters investigate in Britain often involve families who've lost touch. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
So of all the cases that we do research in, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
probably about 75 to 80% of them have some form of overseas element. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
But tracing heirs in former Eastern Bloc nations can be tricky... | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
One European country to have suffered the full brunt | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
of the turbulent nature of the last century is Poland. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
From the full force of the German and Russian invasions during World War II, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
to a long period under communism, the Poles have experienced more than their fair share of upheaval. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:22 | |
Case Manager, Frances Brett, knows this more than most. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
She has worked countless cases in the former Eastern Bloc country. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
Polish cases are probably particularly interesting | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
because they pose more of a challenge from the point of view of research. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
Once such case was that of Jan Olszewski who died in Halifax | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
on 18th April 1998 at the age of 82, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
leaving an estate worth £53,000. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
He had lived in this neat Victorian terrace in Halifax with his wife and companion of fifty years, Kasia. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:04 | |
Although the couple never had any children of their own, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
they were very close to Kasia's nieces and nephews. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Kasia's niece, Sofia, who is not a blood relative of Jan, remembers her uncle whom she called "John". | 0:14:11 | 0:14:19 | |
He was just a really lovely, kind person, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
and I think every one of us in the family adored him and liked him | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
and you could talk to him, you could have a laugh with him. He was just... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
He was just part of... well, he was a member of our family and took a great part in our family. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:40 | |
The couple had met in the '50s. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
Kasia was a nurse at the hospital and Jan was working as a wool weaver at that time. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:51 | |
They were married in 1965 and lived happily together until April 1998. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
It was a tragedy when we lost him because we lost both of them within five days of one another. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:03 | |
My auntie died. We were all there with her... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
all the nieces and Uncle John | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
and he took it very, very badly, obviously because they'd been together for 50 years, longer. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:18 | |
And then five days later, my uncle John collapsed and died. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:25 | |
It was tragic, very tragic how it happened | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
but he wasn't alone. He's never, ever been alone, he's always had | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
family and friends and people around him who care for him, so, you know. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
We were glad we were there. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
At the time it was horrific, but | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
at least they got a double burial and double funeral and they were together and they're still together. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:51 | |
Jan and Kasia were buried in a shared plot at Stoney Royd Cemetery, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
but after the funeral, a surprising fact emerged. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
My uncle John would never make a will | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
because there was twenty-something years difference between my auntie and Uncle John | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
and when she used to want him to make a will, for both of them to make a will, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
he used to say "Oh, I'm 80 and you're 64 and I'm going to die first | 0:16:15 | 0:16:22 | |
"and then you can do what you want with it." | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
So he never would make a will and as it happened, it didn't work out like that because she died before him. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:33 | |
Because Jan had died after his wife, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
that meant that his small fortune of £53,000 could only go to his blood relatives. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:43 | |
Kasia's nieces and nephews were not entitled to inherit | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
and as he and Kasia had had no children and he had no obvious blood relatives in the UK, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:54 | |
his estate found its way onto the Treasury List. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
Were there any relatives in Poland entitled to inherit his cash? | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
He had no desire at all to go back to Poland, not even for a holiday. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
We used to nag him, "get your passport and we can still go". | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
"Oh, go away" he says. "What do I need to go back for?" | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
And never, ever did he mention family, when we used to ask him | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
and he'd say, "Well, my mother and father are dead and I've no brothers and sisters." | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
When Jan Olszewski's name came up on the Treasury List, Fran believed | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
with Frasers' connections in Poland this was the ideal case to tackle, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
but they came across an obstacle at the first hurdle. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
To start with, we have the death certificate of Jan Olszewski | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
which shows that he was born on the 2nd of February 1914 in Poland. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:53 | |
Unfortunately, where somebody is born outside the UK, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:59 | |
no exact place of birth is shown... | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
only the country. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Without knowing where he was born, the team were stuck. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
They would have to go back and trace Jan's movements, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
hoping that this would lead them to his place of birth. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
According to Sofia, her uncle came to the UK during | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
World War II and she remembers him telling her stories of that time. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
He joined the Army when he was a very young boy. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Then all about his Army days and what he did in the Army and | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
how he drove vehicles in the Army and so forth. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
You know, his ranks were fairly high and he was very active. He did some boxing... | 0:18:38 | 0:18:45 | |
I mean on the whole, he enjoyed his career in the Army, very much so. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
In 1939, the Germans invaded Poland from the west... | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
and the Russians invaded from the east. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
The attack was quick and brutal. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Those of the Polish Army that weren't captured, fled. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Jan had been to military school before the War and belonged | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
to the Tatra Highland Unit, which was stationed in Eastern Poland. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
Somehow, he escaped to join the Polish Free Army in the UK | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
and after the War was over, he decided to stay on. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
He never spoke of his childhood in Poland. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
We know very little about... | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
a life what he would have had before the Army or whether he kept in touch | 0:19:36 | 0:19:42 | |
with his family while he was in the Army but I can't see that happening. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
Jan's personal history and experiences during the War gave Fran a few areas to research. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:56 | |
For their searches to succeed, she needed to narrow down his place of birth, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
from the whole of Poland to one area. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
With a little more delving, Fran found he was born in Jedrzejow, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
a small town one hour's drive north of Krakow. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
The real work was about to start. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
Fran contacted fellow Heir Hunter and Frasers' Polish International Manager, Krzysztof Barski. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:22 | |
My job I think is very necessary in Poland because in Poland | 0:20:22 | 0:20:28 | |
we have lots of cases where people lost their contacts completely | 0:20:28 | 0:20:35 | |
and they do not know, families do not know, what happened to their relatives after World War II. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:42 | |
And researching births and deaths in Poland is not straightforward at all. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
Civil registration in Poland didn't begin until 1946 | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
and prior to that date, all the records were those kept by the church. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
Many haven't survived and those that do are in any case, by law, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:05 | |
not open for public investigation. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
This added a new challenge to the investigation. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
There are different monasteries and different organisations. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
Some of them are very secret and do not allow people from outside at all. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:23 | |
Some of these are less strict but anyway, it's not easy to get access to the registers in the monastery. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:30 | |
So Krzysztof was facing a massive task ahead, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
and there was still the nagging question of whether Jan had any family in Poland at all. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
The priest helped me to check the registers from | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
the beginning of the 20th century and unfortunately we couldn't find the birth record of the deceased. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:51 | |
Every year, the Heir Hunters tackle countless cases that still remain a mystery. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
Currently, 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's Unsolved Case list. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope that eventually | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
With the estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
it's just possible you could be entitled to one of these unclaimed estates. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Mary Devlin died in Leeds on 20th January 2004. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Was Mary a friend or neighbour of yours? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Could you even be related to her and entitled to her legacy? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Linda Susan Jamieson passed away on 11th October 2006 in Sheffield. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:59 | |
So far, every attempt to find her rightful heir has failed. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
If no relatives can be found, her money will go to the government, but could it be meant for you? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:10 | |
With all these estates laying unclaimed every year, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
your information could help millions of pounds reach its rightful heirs. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
In London, the team at Frasers are investigating the case of Kenneth Wren, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
who died alone in Goodmayes Hospital in Essex in October 2008 at the age of 79. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:36 | |
Kenneth seems to have been quite reclusive. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
None of his neighbours recall him, but incredibly, the team have found | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
a possible 12 brothers and sisters for him, including one brother still living in Romford. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
Senior Researcher, Dave Hadley, is on his way to see him. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
The name of the person that they want me to see is Clifford Wren, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:58 | |
who would be a brother of the deceased | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
and they've given me the full details of the family tree | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
and it would seem that there's quite a few brothers and sisters. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Clifford Wren is the younger brother of Kenneth by only two years. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
Dave is hoping that he might be able to confirm the family tree | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and also that he'll want Frasers to work on his behalf. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
It's 11.30 and Dave Hadley has arrived at Clifford's home in Ilford. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:32 | |
-Is it Mr Wren? -Yes, sir. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Hello there. My name is David Hadley. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
I'm a representative of Fraser & Fraser, we're probate researchers. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
Born in 1931, Clifford is the youngest of the Wren family | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
and lives just three miles from Kenneth's sheltered accommodation. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
Does he know that his brother, Kenneth, is dead? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Right. What do you know about your brothers and sisters? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
Are you in touch with them at all? | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Er... | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
-And who's that? -That's Kenny. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
-Kenneth is that? -Yeah. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
OK. Well, when was the last time you saw Kenneth? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
Ooh, years ago. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah! -Are you close? -No. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
OK. Well, I've got to tell you he's passed away. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
-He's died then? -Yeah, he passed away. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
He passed away in... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
2008, October last year. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
-God. -It would seem that, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
from what you're telling me, that you're his only surviving brother? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Are you all right? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Do you want to sit down? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
A bit of a shock, isn't it? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
OK. Are you all right? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
-Are you going to be all right? -Yeah, I'll be all right. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
OK. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
'It's never easy and there's never an easy way of telling somebody | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
'that a close member of the family has died but...' | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
he seemed to take it OK. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
He'd obviously not seen his brother for some time | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
but even so, it's still a shock and it's still upsetting, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
but, you know, I find that | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
the best way of doing this is not to beat around the bush, you know, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:37 | |
and just try to break it to them as, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
sort of, sympathetically as possible. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Just to let you know, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
it's your dad's brother who's passed away. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Even with his son's help, Clifford is struggling to come to terms with the news. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
It's obviously, you know, taken him obviously by surprise. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Now I'm the last one of the family. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
It's one of them things. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
The last time I saw him was... | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
about eight years. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Last time because... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
I was at Ilford with my daughter, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
and we walked up to the bus stop, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
and she spotted him at first and... | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
he just waved and walked on, you know. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Clifford has agreed to sign with Frasers. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
He is the last of 13 brothers and sisters | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
and so will share the inheritance with all of their children. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
He's a little bit sketchy about his brothers and sisters. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Some of the names are different, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
-because there's such big age gaps between them, I think. -OK, bye. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
Right, that was Dave Hadley. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
He's been in to see brother Clifford. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
He knew very little about the deceased at all. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
Didn't think he had children, had a lady who was on the scene for a while | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
but he doesn't know if they ever married or not, so nothing there. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:18 | |
One of the things he could confirm is that quite a few of the Wren clan are in the Romford area. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
He's given us two possible phone numbers | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
on Gladys' stem which is the best bit to probably get information from. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:34 | |
Kenneth's big sister, Gladys, was 12 years older than him. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
She had two children - Maureen and Michael. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Because they are Kenneth's niece and nephew, they will be heirs. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
Neil has tracked down Maureen's number. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
'Your mother, I think, was one of 13 children in total. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
'Right, I think it all pretty much ties up with what we have or what we're sort of rumoured on, | 0:28:53 | 0:29:00 | |
'which is good, because it's just when we look for stuff, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
'you find stuff and you think it looks right and then you don't know.' | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
'It's very nice to talk to you, Maureen, and I'll get a letter out to you today.' | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
'Take care. Bye.' | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
Great! So that was definitely worth it. That was Maureen who is going to be a beneficiary on this. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:20 | |
She's a niece of Kenneth. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
She's actually been able to confirm everything. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
She knew the deceased, knew his old address, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
and knew he had moved into a home. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
Value-wise, it's probably still gonna be small. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
We've got nothing to indicate there's going to be any value in it at all. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Just eight years younger than her uncle, Maureen remembered | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
a very different Kenneth to the recluse he had become. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
She described him as "the life and soul of the party in his youth". | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
The phone call has also thrown light on the family history. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
In the '30s, Kenneth's father, Alfred, was working as a dock worker | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
and his mother, Rosetta, began working as a nurse. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Life was tough for the family, not least because over the first | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
23 years of their marriage, they had 13 children... | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
two of which died in infancy. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
Kenneth and his brother, Clifford, were the last of a huge clan. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
In all likelihood, we will have the best part of twenty beneficiaries | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
and we only have £5,000 to distribute between them, so they're not going to get a huge amount of money. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
However, Neil is a little surprised at the rift between Kenneth and younger brother, Clifford. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
In this case, Kenneth was the second youngest. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
He was probably closest to his one brother who is alive still, which is Clifford. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
Really, as people get into the later years of their life and in this case the beneficiaries | 0:30:42 | 0:30:49 | |
seem to have known that Kenneth was still alive until fairly recently, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
you would probably have expected them to know a little bit more about him, maybe even his last address. | 0:30:54 | 0:31:01 | |
There was a rumour that he lived there for 16 years, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
so, it's a little bit shocking that they haven't kept in touch. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:10 | |
Kenneth may have withdrawn from his family, but the news of his modest legacy | 0:31:10 | 0:31:16 | |
has brought back family connections long since forgotten. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
The Wren case is a prime example of how families can lose touch, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
even when they live practically next door... | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
but the case of Olszewski is one where the Heir Hunters had to look | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
to a country over 1,000 miles from Britain to even find out if the deceased had any family at all! | 0:31:38 | 0:31:45 | |
Jan Olszewski lived in Britain for the majority of his 82 years. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
He never really spoke of having any family in Poland to his niece, Sofia, seen here at her wedding. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
Never, ever did he mention of family when we used to ask him and he'd say, | 0:31:55 | 0:32:03 | |
"Well, my mother and father are dead and I've no brothers and sisters". | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
So when he died just after his beloved wife, Kasia in 1989, and left no will, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
it looked like all his money would go to the government. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
Case Manager, Frances Brett, helped by her Polish colleague, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Krzysztof Barski, started to look for kin in Poland. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
Krzysztof's first task was to look for Jan's birth records. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
He made his way to Jedrzejow, the town where Jan was born. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
It's a small farming community, an hour's drive north of Krakow. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
Well, Jedrzejow is a small town. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
Some of the citizens are farmers and own little land, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:50 | |
outside the town and they make a living out of it. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
Some people simply go to the larger cities in the area for their jobs and some work in Jedrzejow. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:04 | |
The birth records he needed to access were likely to have been in one of two places. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
It has one major parish and the monastery, which is also a site | 0:33:09 | 0:33:17 | |
in Jedrzejow but within the area of Jedrzejow. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
As there is no central civil registry for births before 1946, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
-Krzysztof's first port of call was to the local parish. -Olszewski. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:38 | |
The priest helped me to check the registers from the beginning of the 20th century. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:47 | |
And unfortunately we couldn't find the birth record of the deceased. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
So, no success at the parish, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
time for Krzysztof to try the local monastery... | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
But there was a snag. Monasteries are usually very resistant to outsiders. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
However, Krzysztof had an idea. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
They keep pointing to us to take the priest with me. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
The priest in the parish seems to be very interested in my job, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:22 | |
generally in genealogy, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
and also it was a coincidence but his surname was Olszewski, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:30 | |
the same surname as our Jan Olszewski from England. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
So he got more interested in it than the usual priests do and, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
you know, after talking to him, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
explaining to him what my job is about, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
I suggested to him that it would be a good idea if he could go with me to the monastery | 0:34:49 | 0:34:55 | |
and talk to their friends to convince them that we are doing this for a very good reason. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:02 | |
Krzysztof and the priest headed to the Cistercian monastery, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
which was founded in the late 12th century and has always been a big part of the local community. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
It has its own church and parish. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
Krzysztof was praying that the Olszewski family had christened their children here. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
Krzysztof's idea had worked. After the introduction from the priest, the monks were extremely helpful. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:34 | |
I'm very happy that we didn't give up in the Parish of Jedrzejow because we found the birth record | 0:35:34 | 0:35:40 | |
of Jan Olszewski in this register of births from the beginning of the 20th century. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
We found his birth record in 1916, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
which is a bit different from what Jan Olszewski gave as his birth date | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
but the day and the month is the same, the mother's name and mother's maiden name is the same. | 0:35:54 | 0:36:02 | |
Two discrepancies are the birth date, actually the year, and the father's name, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:08 | |
but I checked in this register that there are no other Jan Olszewski than the one that we found. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:15 | |
So I'm 99% - right now we're 100% sure - | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
but at the time when I found this record, I was 99% sure that that's the right one. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:25 | |
Well, finding the birth record of Jan Olszewski was the turning point in my research. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:32 | |
When I found his birth record, I know that I'm in the right place to search | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
for his possible siblings. So I did the research to look for his brothers or sisters | 0:36:35 | 0:36:42 | |
and I found that he had five siblings altogether, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
and with knowing the birth dates of his siblings, I could go in those lines and search | 0:36:46 | 0:36:54 | |
into their heirs, their issue, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
and I was successful in finding the rest of the relatives. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
Jan came from a traditional farming family and it was quite a large one. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
He was in fact one of seven children born in the late 1800s and early 1900s, all in the Jedrzejow area, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:15 | |
four of whom had gone on to have a number of their own children. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
When Fran drew up the family tree, there were 16 heirs who would inherit from their Great Uncle Jan. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:25 | |
Slavek Olszewski, the grandson of Jan's brother, Jozef, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
remembers Jan's sisters' stories about his great uncle. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
TRANSLATION: My great aunt was extremely proud of him. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
My great uncle was the youngest of his siblings. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
His family only had a small piece of land and typically in Polish agricultural families, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
everyone was expected to stay at home and help out but despite difficult times, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
they insisted on giving my uncle a good education although then he decided he wanted to join the Army. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:58 | |
After finishing military school, he left as an officer cadet | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
from the Tatra Highland Regiment | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
and went to fight in the War and from that point, we lost contact with him. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:17 | |
With no news from him, Jan's fate was a constant source of debate and speculation. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:24 | |
We had believed that my Great Uncle was killed in Katyn because the Tetra Highlands Regiment was stationed in | 0:38:24 | 0:38:31 | |
the Eastern Polish region which was invaded by the Russians in 1939. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
Over a 28 day period in April 1940, in the Forest of Katyn, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:42 | |
the Russian Army systematically executed more than 22,000 prisoners of war, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
mainly officers and men of the Polish Army. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
It was comprehensive obliteration of the Polish military elite. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
It was said that the bodies were twelve layers deep. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
With so many slaughtered, it's easy to see how the Olszewskis | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
would have thought their officer brother was one of the dead. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
TRANSLATION: After what we called the '1954 Political Thaw', so after the death of Stalin, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:12 | |
it became apparent that many officers had died in Katyn. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
Later on, when they disclosed their surnames of those from Katyn | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
who had been exhumed, my great uncle's name didn't come up. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
On the Katyn List, there wasn't an Olszewski. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
There was an Olszewski as such, but not a Jan Olszewski. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
But as time went by, the family were convinced that he must have died... | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
if not at Katyn, somewhere else. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
In the 80s, they had him officially declared dead, so it was a big shock | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
when they heard that he had been alive and well and living in the UK. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
On the one hand, this whole event has been very sad for us because | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
we didn't understand why my great uncle didn't get in touch for so many years, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
but on the other hand, of course, we were glad to find out that he had survived the War | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
and didn't die in Katyn like so many other soldiers. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
So the news has brought us equal amounts of joy and sadness. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
And in the UK, the news came out of the blue for Kasia's niece, Sofia. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
Well, it was total disbelief when we knew there was a family over in Poland. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
We had no idea and nothing had ever been mentioned or said that there had been a family in Poland. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
As far as we were concerned, we were his family over here. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
So it came as a total shock and disbelief | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and at the same time, a bit of excitement to know where was a family from him. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:42 | |
Jan's £53,000 estate was split between 16 Polish heirs. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:48 | |
Slavek's father bought a tractor with the money, but the family still wonder why he didn't return. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:55 | |
TRANSLATION: We were extremely surprised because, of course, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
we didn't hear anything from him for so many years. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
After the fall of communism, it was possible to come back again to get in touch more easily in so many ways. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:11 | |
Why didn't Jan make contact? Krzysztof knows that at the time it was not uncommon. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:22 | |
Some people after a terrible experience during World War II | 0:41:22 | 0:41:28 | |
decided to cut off their past. They decided not to go back | 0:41:28 | 0:41:34 | |
with the memories to those terrible times and to, of course, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
start a new life in a foreign country is helping you to forget about your terrible past. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
We'll never know Jan Olszewski's reasons for abandoning his family in Poland, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:50 | |
but it is clear he made a real impact on the lives of his wife, Kasia's, family in Britain. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:56 | |
My auntie and my Uncle John, they took me to Blackpool for day trips, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:05 | |
and they used to take me for a new dress or a new school blazer when my mum was poorly. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:13 | |
And yeah, they were part of our lives. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
I'd love if the family had known him the way we had known him, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:23 | |
because at the end of the day, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
what we've got, there's nobody, you know, nobody can erase | 0:42:25 | 0:42:31 | |
the memories and the treasures that we possess about them both. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
For they were both lovely people, they truly were. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:41 | |
If you would like advice about building a family tree or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 |