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Heir Hunters spend their lives tracking down families of people who've died without leaving a will.

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They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives

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who had no idea they were in line for a windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme...

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a man who has lost contact with his brother gets some shocking news...

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The last time I saw him, about eight years and I'm the last one of the family.

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And the story of a man who made a life in Britain,

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but for fifty years never revealed the true details of his past.

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Never did he mention family when we used to ask him and he'd say,

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"Well, my mother and father are dead and I've no brothers and sisters."

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Plus the unclaimed estate sitting dormant at the Treasury - are you about to inherit a fortune?

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It's incredible, but true.

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Every year two thirds of people in the UK die without leaving a will.

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With no will and no heirs, their entire estate will be absorbed into the Treasury as unclaimed funds.

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In 2007 alone, a massive £18 million was left unspoken for.

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Across the country, around 30 heir-hunting companies make it

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their business to track down long-lost relatives,

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hoping to claw back some of the cash for the rightful heirs

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-and at the same time, win themselves a commission.

-Mr Galloway?

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-Yes.

-David Hadley.

-Hello.

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With offices across the UK and Europe, Fraser & Fraser are one of the established firms.

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They've tackled estates ranging from £5,000-£500,000

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and have successfully claimed back more than £100 million for heirs...

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often in the process, reuniting families that have lost touch.

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I'm Margaret. Don't be nervous.

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Sometimes we are the link, we are the actual people who put

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people back in touch with each other and that is just so rewarding.

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It's 8.15 am on Thursday at Frasers' Central London headquarters.

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It's the day the Treasury publish the list of unclaimed estates.

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Most of the team is already in the office.

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-This one there, she didn't know the deceased but confirmed it was sheltered housing.

-So she did?

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But didn't know the deceased.

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Partner, Neil Fraser, has been hard at work for several hours.

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He's been sifting through potential cases but he can't find any high value estates.

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Generally we have a rule that we try not to work anything

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under the £30,000 sort of barrier, that sort of mark...

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which, if anyone owns a property, they'd certainly have above the value of £30,000.

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Where we have the problem is trying to identify the cases in between the valued property cases

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and down to the lower end of our sort of spectrum.

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The Heir Hunters work on a commission basis and an office

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like Frasers' need a good size estate to cover their expenses.

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Just check to see if there are any people with these initials, yeah?

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But when the team is unable to find anything with a high enough value,

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the next best option is to tackle something that will be fast to solve.

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What we're looking at here is a case of Kenneth Wren.

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Now a quick search of our records and in doing a quick look-around for his birth,

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I've been able to find a birth in Romford and that's in 1929,

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and that ties up with four other births, so four other siblings.

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So it looks like the Heir Hunters have already found brothers and sisters for the deceased.

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Kenneth Wren was 79 when he passed away in Essex in 2008.

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He had lived in Romford all his life but died alone in Goodmayes Hospital

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and although he lived in sheltered accommodation for nearly 16 years, none of his neighbours knew him.

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Nor was he well-known in the local community, but surely he must have had a past?

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Case Manager, David Pacifico, has been trying to contact

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the manager of Kenneth's flat to find out about his finances.

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We haven't been able to speak to anybody.

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It is sheltered accommodation.

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We know very little about him at the moment.

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Value-wise, I'm not convinced it's got much value.

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To make it onto the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates,

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the personal wealth of the deceased must be a minimum of £5,000.

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As Kenneth was living in a council-funded flat, it is unlikely that he had many savings, but

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Neil thinks the virtue of this case is that it should be quick to work.

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Initially, it looks like we may get near kin, so that's why we're playing with this at the moment.

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Fingers crossed, we may find some indication that there's a bit more value than we think there is.

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From the birth records they have on file, the Heir Hunters have already traced four possible siblings.

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Kenneth was born in 1929.

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They found three older brothers...

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Henry, Stanley and Clifford and a sister, Gladys, who was born in 1917.

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So we've got a Stanley H and a Gladys EM.

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Now they're the two best names that we've got so we've been able to made headway on those quite easily.

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From their birth certificates, the team can see that Kenneth's father is Alfred, and his mum is Rosetta,

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also known as Rose, and they've traced a marriage to 1908.

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What's this name - Stickwood?

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Head Researcher, Gareth, knows that if the parents married in 1908,

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there is a good chance that the newly-weds will be listed on the 1911 Census.

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Well, I've just found the census of,

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hopefully, Alfred and Rose Wren who are the parents of the deceased.

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The census is taken every ten years and provides a snapshot of each household in the country.

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It includes details of age, marital status,

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number of children and type of work and the information is released to the public after 100 years.

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But after pressure from amateur genealogists, the 1911 Census was made available online in 2009,

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and it's providing Gareth with a very clear picture of the social status of the Wren family.

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It's telling us that they've been married for about two years,

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so that ties in with what we expected to see.

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The father is 24, the mother is 22.

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He's a straw carter and they're living in a one-bedroom house, in 1911, so it's a start.

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The young Wren family were living in Romford.

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The town today is a bustling urban environment but 100 years ago

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it had a very different feel, as local historian, Brian Evans, explains.

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Romford was a small town with that market which was on Wednesdays.

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People came in from 20 miles around but all round the town was green, open fields.

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As I say, if you were a straw carter in Romford, you'd be going out

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to farms collecting straw and piling it on the cart.

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You'd deliver that from the farm to where the straw was needed.

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Straw was used for all sorts of things.

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I mean, a lot of people just used straw for bedding,

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but it was a hard life because you had a very fixed position.

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You weren't flexible in society so you were a hay carter

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and that fixed you really in your relationships with all other people.

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The wife would have to be so careful with the budget and they were brilliant,

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women were brilliant in holding the family together

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and bringing up lots of children on a very small salary.

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You had to do little jobs. She had to do little things herself like perhaps taking in laundry.

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So given Alfred Wren's job, it is unlikely the family would have had much spare cash.

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It also looks like this family may have had a lot of mouths to feed.

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Following the information from the census, Gareth is now looking at the marriage records.

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Although they've identified five children,

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he is checking to see if they married and if there are any more.

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They've been born over a period of, well 1911 to 1925, so...

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Half the search I'm only looking for a couple and then as they increase,

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you get more and more names to look for at the same time.

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And the names just keep on coming.

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-Gwendolyn F.

-No.

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What's your oldest child?

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Ivy H. We've got a Frederick W.

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They now have 13 children on the tree.

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Neil knows that there's every possibility that these youngsters are Alfred and Rosetta's.

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The mother we know is meant to have been born around about 1889.

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The last birth is in 1931.

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It is perfectly possible in that time for a lady to have children

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up to the age of 42 and indeed after the age of 42.

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So from the oldest, we have one in 1911, 1912, '15, '16,

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'17, '19, '20, '21, '25, the deceased in '29 and then the final one in '31.

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So they're all at last nine months apart so again, perfectly possible all to be in the same family.

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They really need to speak to someone who might be able to verify the family tree.

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Case Manager, David Pacifico, thinks he has the answer.

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We've got a possible brother of Kenneth Wren called Clifford Wren.

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If it's right, he's living in East London.

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Born in 1931, he is the youngest of the family and is Kenneth's younger brother by two years.

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It's a breakthrough.

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At 78, not only is he a living family member but he is also an heir.

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We've got no phone number, we can't phone him up or it is ex-directory.

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That leaves only one option.

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David decides it's time to get a mobile agent out to speak to him.

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Hello, Dave Hadley.

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Can you go over to East London?

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It's on the case of Wren. It looks like we've got an address for a brother.

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OK, I'm on my way, David.

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Frasers employ a team of travelling Heir Hunters.

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These skilled researchers spend their days combing the country for information and speaking to heirs.

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It's a detective job, requiring oodles of patience and a large component of empathy.

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Travelling Heir Hunter and Senior Researcher, Dave Hadley, is used to turning up unannounced.

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Most of my visits are cold calls.

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I mean the main thing really is just to put the person at ease and...

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convince them that it's not a con, you know, that we're not trying to scam them.

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But there's an added poignancy to approaching close kin.

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Clifford Wren is just two years younger than his brother.

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It's been six months since Kenneth's death and there is no way of knowing when Clifford last spoke to him.

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When you contact close kin, it's not nice.

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Sometimes these close kin cases shouldn't really be, what I consider, cases, you know.

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We've had children, we've had parents of the deceased, you know.

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It's not nice when you have to...

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And I've had people break down in tears.

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It's obviously going to be a hard call to make, but it's vital the team speak to Clifford.

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Will this knock on the door open the lid on the Wren case...

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or will Clifford know as little about Kenneth as his brother's neighbours?

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The estates the Heir Hunters investigate in Britain often involve families who've lost touch.

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So of all the cases that we do research in,

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probably about 75 to 80% of them have some form of overseas element.

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But tracing heirs in former Eastern Bloc nations can be tricky...

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One European country to have suffered the full brunt

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of the turbulent nature of the last century is Poland.

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From the full force of the German and Russian invasions during World War II,

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to a long period under communism, the Poles have experienced more than their fair share of upheaval.

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Case Manager, Frances Brett, knows this more than most.

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She has worked countless cases in the former Eastern Bloc country.

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Polish cases are probably particularly interesting

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because they pose more of a challenge from the point of view of research.

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Once such case was that of Jan Olszewski who died in Halifax

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on 18th April 1998 at the age of 82,

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leaving an estate worth £53,000.

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He had lived in this neat Victorian terrace in Halifax with his wife and companion of fifty years, Kasia.

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Although the couple never had any children of their own,

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they were very close to Kasia's nieces and nephews.

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Kasia's niece, Sofia, who is not a blood relative of Jan, remembers her uncle whom she called "John".

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He was just a really lovely, kind person,

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and I think every one of us in the family adored him and liked him

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and you could talk to him, you could have a laugh with him. He was just...

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He was just part of... well, he was a member of our family and took a great part in our family.

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The couple had met in the '50s.

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Kasia was a nurse at the hospital and Jan was working as a wool weaver at that time.

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They were married in 1965 and lived happily together until April 1998.

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It was a tragedy when we lost him because we lost both of them within five days of one another.

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My auntie died. We were all there with her...

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all the nieces and Uncle John

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and he took it very, very badly, obviously because they'd been together for 50 years, longer.

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And then five days later, my uncle John collapsed and died.

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It was tragic, very tragic how it happened

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but he wasn't alone. He's never, ever been alone, he's always had

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family and friends and people around him who care for him, so, you know.

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We were glad we were there.

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At the time it was horrific, but

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at least they got a double burial and double funeral and they were together and they're still together.

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Jan and Kasia were buried in a shared plot at Stoney Royd Cemetery,

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but after the funeral, a surprising fact emerged.

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My uncle John would never make a will

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because there was twenty-something years difference between my auntie and Uncle John

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and when she used to want him to make a will, for both of them to make a will,

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he used to say "Oh, I'm 80 and you're 64 and I'm going to die first

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"and then you can do what you want with it."

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So he never would make a will and as it happened, it didn't work out like that because she died before him.

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Because Jan had died after his wife,

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that meant that his small fortune of £53,000 could only go to his blood relatives.

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Kasia's nieces and nephews were not entitled to inherit

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and as he and Kasia had had no children and he had no obvious blood relatives in the UK,

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his estate found its way onto the Treasury List.

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Were there any relatives in Poland entitled to inherit his cash?

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He had no desire at all to go back to Poland, not even for a holiday.

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We used to nag him, "get your passport and we can still go".

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"Oh, go away" he says. "What do I need to go back for?"

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And never, ever did he mention family, when we used to ask him

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and he'd say, "Well, my mother and father are dead and I've no brothers and sisters."

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When Jan Olszewski's name came up on the Treasury List, Fran believed

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with Frasers' connections in Poland this was the ideal case to tackle,

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but they came across an obstacle at the first hurdle.

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To start with, we have the death certificate of Jan Olszewski

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which shows that he was born on the 2nd of February 1914 in Poland.

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Unfortunately, where somebody is born outside the UK,

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no exact place of birth is shown...

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only the country.

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Without knowing where he was born, the team were stuck.

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They would have to go back and trace Jan's movements,

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hoping that this would lead them to his place of birth.

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According to Sofia, her uncle came to the UK during

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World War II and she remembers him telling her stories of that time.

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He joined the Army when he was a very young boy.

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Then all about his Army days and what he did in the Army and

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how he drove vehicles in the Army and so forth.

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You know, his ranks were fairly high and he was very active. He did some boxing...

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I mean on the whole, he enjoyed his career in the Army, very much so.

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In 1939, the Germans invaded Poland from the west...

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and the Russians invaded from the east.

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The attack was quick and brutal.

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Those of the Polish Army that weren't captured, fled.

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Jan had been to military school before the War and belonged

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to the Tatra Highland Unit, which was stationed in Eastern Poland.

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Somehow, he escaped to join the Polish Free Army in the UK

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and after the War was over, he decided to stay on.

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He never spoke of his childhood in Poland.

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We know very little about...

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a life what he would have had before the Army or whether he kept in touch

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with his family while he was in the Army but I can't see that happening.

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Jan's personal history and experiences during the War gave Fran a few areas to research.

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For their searches to succeed, she needed to narrow down his place of birth,

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from the whole of Poland to one area.

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With a little more delving, Fran found he was born in Jedrzejow,

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a small town one hour's drive north of Krakow.

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The real work was about to start.

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Fran contacted fellow Heir Hunter and Frasers' Polish International Manager, Krzysztof Barski.

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My job I think is very necessary in Poland because in Poland

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we have lots of cases where people lost their contacts completely

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and they do not know, families do not know, what happened to their relatives after World War II.

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And researching births and deaths in Poland is not straightforward at all.

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Civil registration in Poland didn't begin until 1946

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and prior to that date, all the records were those kept by the church.

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Many haven't survived and those that do are in any case, by law,

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not open for public investigation.

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This added a new challenge to the investigation.

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There are different monasteries and different organisations.

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Some of them are very secret and do not allow people from outside at all.

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Some of these are less strict but anyway, it's not easy to get access to the registers in the monastery.

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So Krzysztof was facing a massive task ahead,

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and there was still the nagging question of whether Jan had any family in Poland at all.

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The priest helped me to check the registers from

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the beginning of the 20th century and unfortunately we couldn't find the birth record of the deceased.

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Every year, the Heir Hunters tackle countless cases that still remain a mystery.

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Currently, 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's Unsolved Case list.

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Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope that eventually

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someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance.

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With the estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds,

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it's just possible you could be entitled to one of these unclaimed estates.

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Mary Devlin died in Leeds on 20th January 2004.

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Was Mary a friend or neighbour of yours?

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Could you even be related to her and entitled to her legacy?

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Linda Susan Jamieson passed away on 11th October 2006 in Sheffield.

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So far, every attempt to find her rightful heir has failed.

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If no relatives can be found, her money will go to the government, but could it be meant for you?

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With all these estates laying unclaimed every year,

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your information could help millions of pounds reach its rightful heirs.

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In London, the team at Frasers are investigating the case of Kenneth Wren,

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who died alone in Goodmayes Hospital in Essex in October 2008 at the age of 79.

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Kenneth seems to have been quite reclusive.

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None of his neighbours recall him, but incredibly, the team have found

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a possible 12 brothers and sisters for him, including one brother still living in Romford.

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Senior Researcher, Dave Hadley, is on his way to see him.

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The name of the person that they want me to see is Clifford Wren,

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who would be a brother of the deceased

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and they've given me the full details of the family tree

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and it would seem that there's quite a few brothers and sisters.

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Clifford Wren is the younger brother of Kenneth by only two years.

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Dave is hoping that he might be able to confirm the family tree

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and also that he'll want Frasers to work on his behalf.

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It's 11.30 and Dave Hadley has arrived at Clifford's home in Ilford.

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-Is it Mr Wren?

-Yes, sir.

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Hello there. My name is David Hadley.

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I'm a representative of Fraser & Fraser, we're probate researchers.

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Born in 1931, Clifford is the youngest of the Wren family

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and lives just three miles from Kenneth's sheltered accommodation.

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Does he know that his brother, Kenneth, is dead?

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Right. What do you know about your brothers and sisters?

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Are you in touch with them at all?

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Er...

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-And who's that?

-That's Kenny.

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-Kenneth is that?

-Yeah.

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OK. Well, when was the last time you saw Kenneth?

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Ooh, years ago.

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-Yeah?

-Yeah!

-Are you close?

-No.

0:25:200:25:23

OK. Well, I've got to tell you he's passed away.

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-He's died then?

-Yeah, he passed away.

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He passed away in...

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2008, October last year.

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-God.

-It would seem that,

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from what you're telling me, that you're his only surviving brother?

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Are you all right?

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Do you want to sit down?

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A bit of a shock, isn't it?

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OK. Are you all right?

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-Are you going to be all right?

-Yeah, I'll be all right.

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OK.

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'It's never easy and there's never an easy way of telling somebody

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'that a close member of the family has died but...'

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he seemed to take it OK.

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He'd obviously not seen his brother for some time

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but even so, it's still a shock and it's still upsetting,

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but, you know, I find that

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the best way of doing this is not to beat around the bush, you know,

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and just try to break it to them as,

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sort of, sympathetically as possible.

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Just to let you know,

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it's your dad's brother who's passed away.

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Even with his son's help, Clifford is struggling to come to terms with the news.

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It's obviously, you know, taken him obviously by surprise.

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Now I'm the last one of the family.

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It's one of them things.

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The last time I saw him was...

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about eight years.

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Last time because...

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I was at Ilford with my daughter,

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and we walked up to the bus stop,

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and she spotted him at first and...

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he just waved and walked on, you know.

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Clifford has agreed to sign with Frasers.

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He is the last of 13 brothers and sisters

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and so will share the inheritance with all of their children.

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He's a little bit sketchy about his brothers and sisters.

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Some of the names are different,

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-because there's such big age gaps between them, I think.

-OK, bye.

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Right, that was Dave Hadley.

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He's been in to see brother Clifford.

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He knew very little about the deceased at all.

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Didn't think he had children, had a lady who was on the scene for a while

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but he doesn't know if they ever married or not, so nothing there.

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One of the things he could confirm is that quite a few of the Wren clan are in the Romford area.

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He's given us two possible phone numbers

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on Gladys' stem which is the best bit to probably get information from.

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Kenneth's big sister, Gladys, was 12 years older than him.

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She had two children - Maureen and Michael.

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Because they are Kenneth's niece and nephew, they will be heirs.

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Neil has tracked down Maureen's number.

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'Your mother, I think, was one of 13 children in total.

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'Right, I think it all pretty much ties up with what we have or what we're sort of rumoured on,

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'which is good, because it's just when we look for stuff,

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'you find stuff and you think it looks right and then you don't know.'

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'It's very nice to talk to you, Maureen, and I'll get a letter out to you today.'

0:29:080:29:12

'Take care. Bye.'

0:29:120:29:14

Great! So that was definitely worth it. That was Maureen who is going to be a beneficiary on this.

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She's a niece of Kenneth.

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She's actually been able to confirm everything.

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She knew the deceased, knew his old address,

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and knew he had moved into a home.

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Value-wise, it's probably still gonna be small.

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We've got nothing to indicate there's going to be any value in it at all.

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Just eight years younger than her uncle, Maureen remembered

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a very different Kenneth to the recluse he had become.

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She described him as "the life and soul of the party in his youth".

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The phone call has also thrown light on the family history.

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In the '30s, Kenneth's father, Alfred, was working as a dock worker

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and his mother, Rosetta, began working as a nurse.

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Life was tough for the family, not least because over the first

0:30:010:30:05

23 years of their marriage, they had 13 children...

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two of which died in infancy.

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Kenneth and his brother, Clifford, were the last of a huge clan.

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In all likelihood, we will have the best part of twenty beneficiaries

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and we only have £5,000 to distribute between them, so they're not going to get a huge amount of money.

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However, Neil is a little surprised at the rift between Kenneth and younger brother, Clifford.

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In this case, Kenneth was the second youngest.

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He was probably closest to his one brother who is alive still, which is Clifford.

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Really, as people get into the later years of their life and in this case the beneficiaries

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seem to have known that Kenneth was still alive until fairly recently,

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you would probably have expected them to know a little bit more about him, maybe even his last address.

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There was a rumour that he lived there for 16 years,

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so, it's a little bit shocking that they haven't kept in touch.

0:31:040:31:10

Kenneth may have withdrawn from his family, but the news of his modest legacy

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has brought back family connections long since forgotten.

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The Wren case is a prime example of how families can lose touch,

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even when they live practically next door...

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but the case of Olszewski is one where the Heir Hunters had to look

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to a country over 1,000 miles from Britain to even find out if the deceased had any family at all!

0:31:380:31:45

Jan Olszewski lived in Britain for the majority of his 82 years.

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He never really spoke of having any family in Poland to his niece, Sofia, seen here at her wedding.

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Never, ever did he mention of family when we used to ask him and he'd say,

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"Well, my mother and father are dead and I've no brothers and sisters".

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So when he died just after his beloved wife, Kasia in 1989, and left no will,

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it looked like all his money would go to the government.

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Case Manager, Frances Brett, helped by her Polish colleague,

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Krzysztof Barski, started to look for kin in Poland.

0:32:210:32:25

Krzysztof's first task was to look for Jan's birth records.

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He made his way to Jedrzejow, the town where Jan was born.

0:32:330:32:37

It's a small farming community, an hour's drive north of Krakow.

0:32:370:32:42

Well, Jedrzejow is a small town.

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Some of the citizens are farmers and own little land,

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outside the town and they make a living out of it.

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Some people simply go to the larger cities in the area for their jobs and some work in Jedrzejow.

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The birth records he needed to access were likely to have been in one of two places.

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It has one major parish and the monastery, which is also a site

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in Jedrzejow but within the area of Jedrzejow.

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As there is no central civil registry for births before 1946,

0:33:270:33:32

-Krzysztof's first port of call was to the local parish.

-Olszewski.

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The priest helped me to check the registers from the beginning of the 20th century.

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And unfortunately we couldn't find the birth record of the deceased.

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So, no success at the parish,

0:33:550:33:59

time for Krzysztof to try the local monastery...

0:33:590:34:02

But there was a snag. Monasteries are usually very resistant to outsiders.

0:34:050:34:09

However, Krzysztof had an idea.

0:34:090:34:12

They keep pointing to us to take the priest with me.

0:34:120:34:16

The priest in the parish seems to be very interested in my job,

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generally in genealogy,

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and also it was a coincidence but his surname was Olszewski,

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the same surname as our Jan Olszewski from England.

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So he got more interested in it than the usual priests do and,

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you know, after talking to him,

0:34:400:34:44

explaining to him what my job is about,

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I suggested to him that it would be a good idea if he could go with me to the monastery

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and talk to their friends to convince them that we are doing this for a very good reason.

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Krzysztof and the priest headed to the Cistercian monastery,

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which was founded in the late 12th century and has always been a big part of the local community.

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It has its own church and parish.

0:35:180:35:21

Krzysztof was praying that the Olszewski family had christened their children here.

0:35:210:35:25

Krzysztof's idea had worked. After the introduction from the priest, the monks were extremely helpful.

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I'm very happy that we didn't give up in the Parish of Jedrzejow because we found the birth record

0:35:340:35:40

of Jan Olszewski in this register of births from the beginning of the 20th century.

0:35:400:35:45

We found his birth record in 1916,

0:35:450:35:49

which is a bit different from what Jan Olszewski gave as his birth date

0:35:490:35:54

but the day and the month is the same, the mother's name and mother's maiden name is the same.

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Two discrepancies are the birth date, actually the year, and the father's name,

0:36:020:36:08

but I checked in this register that there are no other Jan Olszewski than the one that we found.

0:36:080:36:15

So I'm 99% - right now we're 100% sure -

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but at the time when I found this record, I was 99% sure that that's the right one.

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Well, finding the birth record of Jan Olszewski was the turning point in my research.

0:36:250:36:32

When I found his birth record, I know that I'm in the right place to search

0:36:320:36:35

for his possible siblings. So I did the research to look for his brothers or sisters

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and I found that he had five siblings altogether,

0:36:420:36:46

and with knowing the birth dates of his siblings, I could go in those lines and search

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into their heirs, their issue,

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and I was successful in finding the rest of the relatives.

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Jan came from a traditional farming family and it was quite a large one.

0:37:020:37:07

He was in fact one of seven children born in the late 1800s and early 1900s, all in the Jedrzejow area,

0:37:070:37:15

four of whom had gone on to have a number of their own children.

0:37:150:37:19

When Fran drew up the family tree, there were 16 heirs who would inherit from their Great Uncle Jan.

0:37:190:37:25

Slavek Olszewski, the grandson of Jan's brother, Jozef,

0:37:250:37:29

remembers Jan's sisters' stories about his great uncle.

0:37:290:37:34

TRANSLATION: My great aunt was extremely proud of him.

0:37:340:37:37

My great uncle was the youngest of his siblings.

0:37:370:37:40

His family only had a small piece of land and typically in Polish agricultural families,

0:37:400:37:45

everyone was expected to stay at home and help out but despite difficult times,

0:37:450:37:50

they insisted on giving my uncle a good education although then he decided he wanted to join the Army.

0:37:500:37:58

After finishing military school, he left as an officer cadet

0:38:040:38:08

from the Tatra Highland Regiment

0:38:080:38:11

and went to fight in the War and from that point, we lost contact with him.

0:38:110:38:17

With no news from him, Jan's fate was a constant source of debate and speculation.

0:38:170:38:24

We had believed that my Great Uncle was killed in Katyn because the Tetra Highlands Regiment was stationed in

0:38:240:38:31

the Eastern Polish region which was invaded by the Russians in 1939.

0:38:310:38:36

Over a 28 day period in April 1940, in the Forest of Katyn,

0:38:360:38:42

the Russian Army systematically executed more than 22,000 prisoners of war,

0:38:420:38:48

mainly officers and men of the Polish Army.

0:38:480:38:51

It was comprehensive obliteration of the Polish military elite.

0:38:510:38:55

It was said that the bodies were twelve layers deep.

0:38:550:38:58

With so many slaughtered, it's easy to see how the Olszewskis

0:38:580:39:02

would have thought their officer brother was one of the dead.

0:39:020:39:06

TRANSLATION: After what we called the '1954 Political Thaw', so after the death of Stalin,

0:39:060:39:12

it became apparent that many officers had died in Katyn.

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Later on, when they disclosed their surnames of those from Katyn

0:39:170:39:21

who had been exhumed, my great uncle's name didn't come up.

0:39:210:39:24

On the Katyn List, there wasn't an Olszewski.

0:39:240:39:29

There was an Olszewski as such, but not a Jan Olszewski.

0:39:290:39:34

But as time went by, the family were convinced that he must have died...

0:39:350:39:40

if not at Katyn, somewhere else.

0:39:400:39:42

In the 80s, they had him officially declared dead, so it was a big shock

0:39:420:39:47

when they heard that he had been alive and well and living in the UK.

0:39:470:39:51

On the one hand, this whole event has been very sad for us because

0:39:510:39:54

we didn't understand why my great uncle didn't get in touch for so many years,

0:39:540:39:58

but on the other hand, of course, we were glad to find out that he had survived the War

0:39:580:40:03

and didn't die in Katyn like so many other soldiers.

0:40:030:40:06

So the news has brought us equal amounts of joy and sadness.

0:40:060:40:10

And in the UK, the news came out of the blue for Kasia's niece, Sofia.

0:40:120:40:17

Well, it was total disbelief when we knew there was a family over in Poland.

0:40:170:40:22

We had no idea and nothing had ever been mentioned or said that there had been a family in Poland.

0:40:220:40:28

As far as we were concerned, we were his family over here.

0:40:280:40:33

So it came as a total shock and disbelief

0:40:330:40:36

and at the same time, a bit of excitement to know where was a family from him.

0:40:360:40:42

Jan's £53,000 estate was split between 16 Polish heirs.

0:40:420:40:48

Slavek's father bought a tractor with the money, but the family still wonder why he didn't return.

0:40:480:40:55

TRANSLATION: We were extremely surprised because, of course,

0:40:570:41:00

we didn't hear anything from him for so many years.

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After the fall of communism, it was possible to come back again to get in touch more easily in so many ways.

0:41:040:41:11

Why didn't Jan make contact? Krzysztof knows that at the time it was not uncommon.

0:41:160:41:22

Some people after a terrible experience during World War II

0:41:220:41:28

decided to cut off their past. They decided not to go back

0:41:280:41:34

with the memories to those terrible times and to, of course,

0:41:340:41:39

start a new life in a foreign country is helping you to forget about your terrible past.

0:41:390:41:44

We'll never know Jan Olszewski's reasons for abandoning his family in Poland,

0:41:440:41:50

but it is clear he made a real impact on the lives of his wife, Kasia's, family in Britain.

0:41:500:41:56

My auntie and my Uncle John, they took me to Blackpool for day trips,

0:41:580:42:05

and they used to take me for a new dress or a new school blazer when my mum was poorly.

0:42:050:42:13

And yeah, they were part of our lives.

0:42:130:42:16

I'd love if the family had known him the way we had known him,

0:42:160:42:23

because at the end of the day,

0:42:230:42:25

what we've got, there's nobody, you know, nobody can erase

0:42:250:42:31

the memories and the treasures that we possess about them both.

0:42:310:42:36

For they were both lovely people, they truly were.

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If you would like advice about building a family tree or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk.

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